Hey everyone, we know the megaparsecs distance is weird but thats just what the source material says, same with the rover powerplant being a bit mad. - hoojiwana from Spacedock
To anyone wondering, a megaparsec is about 3.3 million lightyears, and our galaxy is roughly 100.000 lightyears across. This is one where we should probably either suspend disbelief or just assume the people in the alien universe use a different measurement.
I have a surprise for you, If Blade Runner 2049 Reconts Aliens back too 2079 old timeline we going to need too take 100 years off everything in the Colonial Marines Technical Manual, Dates 2022 Blade Runner timeline, I have a vague suspicion Avatars date wrong as well? 2054 not 2154, Bet you didn't see that coming, Now it works.
A great vessel inexplicably crewed by hysterical, unprofessional basket cases. Maybe Sir Peter ought to have dedicated more of the budget to that side of things?
idk why all of u expect scientists to be brave... theyve probably never encoutered violence in their life and are suddenly on alien military planet light years away from home while everyone is dying around them pretty good reason to be hysterical if u ask me
Despite the incredible thought and detail given to the ships, the movie hardly does them credit. Ships with such care given to design should span multiple episodes/series/movies to fully appreciate the craft.
Personally I like the design of this ship and I especially like the bridge (I'm always a sucker for a good bridge). Wouldn't mind commanding one if they existed.
I've noticed Ridley Scott's interpretation of FTL travel ships have evolved through the decades. With the Prometheus front and center. Regardless of the amount of technology, using the primary ship as a terrain lander is a risk beyond belief in my mind. Understanding that this is fairy tale and they did want to showcase the outrigger rotating power plants. This is the only question mark in my mind regarding the Prometheus other than this fact it's a beautiful spacecraft.
Yeah... In my fiction, ships like the Pioneer make landings, because they're hyper-advanced, and the Pioneer (at 100 meters) is probably the biggest ship to make terrestrial landings commonly. Other ships can technically make terrestrial landings, up to and including the Non-Sequitur, a behemoth of a thing over a kilometer long-but because they have the field-based thrust and the gravity repulsion tech *to* do it doesn't mean that *it's a good idea.* Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. Anyways, it's for that reason that usually it's just smaller ships that make landings.
This is one of my all time favourite ship designs, as a standalone design and as it relates to the Nostromo - absolutely nailed the idea that it's a premium concept version of what will one day become the white van of spaceships, the M-Class starfreighter.
Nice timing. Prometheus is kind of a Christmas movie. It's got the date, some decorations, and a 'miraculous' birth. I really like ship's design. There's a visible design lineage with the Nostromo, at least externally. The Serenity from Firefly also has a similar profile.
The whole movie has Christian overtones. When the three ship’s crew and captain sacrifice themselves for mankind’s sins, they parallel the three men on the crosses.
I'd agree on the similarity in design While some people complain that the Prometheus looks anachronistic and too advanced compared to the Nostromo, they're usually forgetting that it's a science/exploration craft, while the Nostromo was a literal truck in space
@@347Jimmy I imagine they live in a technocracy. Like a class divide, your ability for social mobility depends on access to it in a way. I'd enjoy some meagre reasons for analogue still being used on starships in the Alien series though, just something akin to how it functions relatively in certain situations or something. Although, I'd be surprised if anyone ever made a 14" CRT monitor for space travel for a functional reason ever again. Choosing solid state and physical keypads e.g over touch screens seems reasonable. Maybe they'll nod to the idea in the new film, they intend show two halves of a station, one being technologically generations older than the other so they might cover it. The Prometheus was Weyland's space yacht effectively... the peripheral crew were also hired by his daughter who thought his mission was b******t! :D
@@gorvarhadgarson5227That's why I'd call my spaceship the USS Shaved Nutsack. You've never heard of any famous wrecks or ominous mythological stories about anything named Shaved Nutsack.
Yeah , last few years have sure proven folks are supremely logical and rational under pressure 😅. The film has its flaws but good, if someone likes classic style scifi it fits.
If you're a fan of the original Alien, please don't ever watch it. Despite how incredible the visuals look, the story in this as well as in Alien: Covenant completely ruin all of the mystery surrounding the space jockey from the original along with the origins of the alien itself. Unlike what many people these days seem to believe when it comes to prequels/sequels, not every single thing needs to be explained, especially when it comes to horror films. Some things are better left to the imagination.
@@LanceVanceDance84 Prometheus can only be seriously considered a reimagining or remix. There was at the time much debate if ever was a prequel , some familiar items dropped into a new universe
The Prometheus should've been the main ship of a sci-fi exploration *series.* It's too good to appear only on a single movie! The details, the layout, the structures, the living enviroment, there's so much storytelling that could happen inside this ship!
(Idris Elba) "Mr. Ravel, warm up the ion propulsion." (Charlize Theron) "What the hell are you talking about?" (Ravel) "Sir, burning the ion in the inner atmosphere --" (Idris Elba) "-- turns us into a bullet. That is exactly the point."
Damn, as someone who plays Star Citizen it's crazy seeing how inspirational this ship was to the design of several Star Citizen ships. Mainly the Carrack. The Carrack's bridge is straight from this movie, even down to the 'treadmill' control station. That's awesome.
I just really like the prometheus. Its just a really good looking ship. The cool displays, the cool facilities, the interesting mission, i just want to own one. Also great breakdown.
Love these settings where a ship is used for exploration and it lands then used as a command base. Its more awesome when its a big ship so you dont feel like its just a car or a fancy rv.
The gym area and loading bay also appear to be either one and the same, or possibly parts of a larger space sub divided by a partition. This is based on the 'Stand clear when moving' stencil on the ramp and in the background of the briefing.
having rotating engines that become landing feet is like a car that can turn into a transformer. And having large rooms is like having a basketball stadium on the ISS
Oldies are the classics. So many gems from the 90s when quality games were produced in completion without a micro transaction model to make awful games barely fun 😡
The Prometheus' rocker arm-mounted engines fascinate me -- but it's obvious they're meant to allow the ship to fly about like an aircraft in atmosphere. In space, shouldn't their default setting be landing mode so as to simulate gravity without invoking your typical sci-fi technobabble?
If they used thrust gravity yes it would be. But they use transitional scifi technobabble instead. Also worth nothing the ship flies at FTL speeds, which means it has to somehow break the laws of physics, so inventing a gravity generator isn't much of a push once you can do that.
The only non-jargon “artificial gravity” I’ve read about are either rotating rings/tubes/spheres/etc or by constant acceleration of the ship. For the latter example, the ship flips 180-degrees to decelerate to maintain perceived gravity.
@@montithered4741 the thrust gravity is both jargon and non-jargon, as no ship has enough reaction mass currently to generate enough thrust to maintain a noticable level of gravity for more than a very short period of time. The gravity is non-jargon, the drive systems are generally always jargon. Centrifugal gravity however, not jargon at all, but its complicated by needing some from inertial cancellation for a moving ship (or to be precise when the ship is under thrust) or a system were crew are placed in harnesses. It does also create an interesting engineering problem as there can be high stress points in the design, which depending on the scale need you to invent jargon materials to have sufficient strength. That said, there is a fairly popular theme park ride that already proves this concept works exceptionally well and isn't overly difficult to achieve.
@@cgi2002 Having heard some things about the strength per kg (or per cm^3) of carbon fiber mesh, wouldn't that already be enough to handle the high-stress points in such a design? (RealEngineering did an interesting video about new plane-fuselage designs)
@@MrNicoJac it very much depends on several factors. The mass of the vessel in question, and its distribution. The distance from the central pivot point of the rotation. The lateral forces been applied. The quality of the materials themselves naturally also come into play. Also how much of a margin of safety do you want. You don't design for what you expect to operate at, you design for what could happen. This is one of those scenarios were you can't say "this will/won't work" unless you have the rest of the information. It's like designing a bridge, you know on the average day it needs to support 5000 vehicles, operate for 30 years in X weather conditions. You design it to accommodate 7500 vehicles a day for 40 years and for every year to have a once in a hundred years weather effect occur, because you never know what's going to happen in the future and while it has to work perfectly all the time, it only has to fail for less than 0.1 seconds once to be catastrophic.
Using the online warp speed calculator, Prometheus was capable of cruising at a fuzz over Warp Two. In the Star Trek universe, it preceded the official breaking of the Warp Two "barrier" but according to canon the 35 ly voyage, along with that of the Nostromo, took place well before the formation of Star Fleet and the Federation.
I was always curious about the FTL system in the 'Aliens' universe (was it like 'Warp Drive', 'Hyperspace', 'Real Space FTL....somehow"). With 'only' a 2 year travel time, did you really need to have 'Hypersleep' capsules? Was there not enough space to store Food, Water, and other essentials for the trip? As you said, "MegaPARSECS"?!?! kinda weird ^_^ Finally, did they teach future crew members how not to run into the shadow of something falling towards you? ^_^
If your FTL tech is just a blank warp journey where nothing changes, there's nothing to do or see...and you have the hibernation technology...why not sleep your way there. The sheer boredom and tedium of the journey would seem more dangerous to the crew than just a long nap. Like taking a nap as you fly across the Atlantic or the Pacific on a jumbo jet.
Also its not always about storage. Somewhere in the lore of the alien universe it is mentioned that the human mind can't take hyperspace for long amounts of time. I know it is specifically mentioned in the Alien RPG
Alien never got bogged down with FTL technobabble. Even the novelization treated it as magic, taken for granted. BSG 2003 followed the same formula...the jump drives just worked. Knowing the distance to Zeta Reticuli 2, (35 ly)and the time for Nostromo to get to Earth (10 months, according to Lambert) you can plug them into an online warp speed calculator. Space is big and even at FTL it takes time. The novelization for Alien had another plot issue: Nostromo wasn't designed for its crew to be awake full time. If they didn't get rid of the Xenomorph within a certain amount of time they'd have to go back into the freezers or suffocate.
Ships from the Alien Universe use tachyon shunts for FTL travel. The shunt basically transports a ship into some sort of tachyonic state, which allows said ship to achieve FTL velocities. The Sulaco in particular could achieve a speed of 0.74 light years per day. The Nostromo is likely much slower.
The landing sequence gives me goose bumps beucase it reminds me of all the space-x landings. I sure hope space-x has something like a prometheus ship planned.
The ship carries one of the most advanced medical robots ever made featuring state of the art scanners, imaging and diagnostic equipment. However it can only operate on men because Weyland didn't want to spring for the $20 expansion pack.
Yeah Weyland was a selfish prick, probably did it so the diagnostics would go faster by not needing to account for gender, which in itself would probably have slowed in down a millionth of a second
not only proto-indo-european but all known ancient languages. proto-indo-european isn't precisely known at this point in our timeline by the way, it is just a reconstructed guesswork (might be known at the time of prometheus though).
I remember only 1 thing about this film, which was that when i first watched it as a teenager, late at night, i wasn't scared at all by it, as is typical for me with horror stuff. Then the end credits rolled, and whatever it was about the music that played with them, it fecking terrified me. Couldn't even sit through the whole set of credits.
Just for reference the USCSS Prometheus is the same length size as the SSV Normandy from Mass Effect. :) For all us Sci-Fi fans. For exploration and comfort I'll take the Prometheus, for battle it's the Normandy.
The Prometheus has a lot more internal volume, giving you nicer accommodations and a larger cargo capacity. But the Normandy is fast as fuck, you could zip all around a good sized bit of the galaxy with it even without the mass relays.
A comment in another video mentioned this about the scuttling procedures, but the automatic detonation override did not work because Ripley did not do it correctly. Most people assume she wasn't quick enough, but on the emergency destruct system panel it clearly states: *"FAILSAFE SYSTEM WILL NOT ENGAGE IF SAFETY INTERLOCKS ARE DISENGAGED. REENGAGE SAFETY INTERLOCKS PRIOR TO ABORT CODE INPUT"* She failed to commit the abort procedure in the correct order.
@@jimmyjohnjames6397 Yes, but the movie tried to "hide" his presence in the ship at this moment, plus the medipod apparently was a very expensive piece of advances technology, so making it usable only for one sex was just a lazy way to give the audience a hint about Weyland's presence onboard. Finally, even if it was Weyland's personal pod, it was in Vicers' quarters. That medipod limitation was the laziest writing of the movie in my opinion.
Is there a technical term for this overhanging cockpit window that makes it easy to look down for the pilot/driver? It is similar in function to the cabin of a crane operator and I also see utility for it on rovers on the planetary surface.
"Megaparsecs?" A parsec is 3.3 light years, so a megaparsec is 3,300,000 light years, or about 33 times the diameter of the galaxy itself. Megaparsecs (plural) would be 6,600,000 light years or more. Roughly three times further away than the Andromeda galaxy. (In an earlier post, I mistook "Mega" for "Kilo" and gave the wrong numbers, so I'm posting this to correct it, rather than removing or editing my earlier post because I *AM* an idiot, and I don't see any reason not to own up to that)
Prometheus and it's not even close. Especially if said vacation isn't going to any planets with LV in their designations. At least you can go faster than light without that spatial shortcut through the warp/hell.
No warp drive other than that it was nice ship. Warp of Worm hole drive is never mentioned yet they over these distances in years . And wouldn't it be fusion to ion drive at least to stand a chance.
Quite the impressive ship. Too bad it was crewed by people so dumb that Charles Darwin smiled when they died. 6:07 And yet with this kind of high tech mapping, the idiot STILL gets lost.
@@sleepingbackbone7581 A good rule of movie writing is this:. If the only way for the story to move forward is for the characters to make incredibly stupid decisions, your writing is bad.
Iirc one of the earlier scripts said that the daughter of Weyland specifically hired idiots with no common sense to undermine and sabotage the mission. Why? Because she was annoyed at Peter Weyland for not giving the company to her, instead sticking to his stupid immortality. Makes sense. Hire complete idiots, idiots die, mission fails, they get home and Weyland dies of old age, letting her inherit the corp. A solid, if brutal and evil plan And then the Engineer wakes up and wants to bomb Earth.
@@apollodiomedes203 Sounded like said idiots were those she assumed would ruin the mission but likely not endanger everyone at least. Then the black goo that's essentially a bio-mechanical virus turned up. hmm. virus... idiots.... sure rings a bell.
@@apollodiomedes203 And then she puts herself on the ship WITH the idiots, with a med-pod that's programmed NOT to work on her. If this is the caliber of folks W-Y hires for important decisions... it explains a lot, actually.
O they found something and it wasn't a divine flame for it was an ECH(Eldridge Cosmic Horror) and what was in it would become the greatest threat of humanity.
The only good thing about this film. You should do the Black Boa Ship from Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. Always loved that ship. My favorite next to this one.
Only *12 medipods* were ever built? They should have been mass produced, which would drop the cost, and fitted as standard on every long range ship [enhanced to include female gender specific complaints] they are just so useful. Yes there's a usually a medical officer, but what if _they are the one_ who needs medical attention? And it could assist the medical officer if more than one crewmember was injured at the same time … and entirely plausible scenario as industrial accidents aren't taken in turn on a roster system.
You're still thinking small. Imagine how much money could be saved if you didn't need surgeons anymore. Sounds like a worthwhile investment for health insurance companies/hospital administrators, lol 😅
I can imagine each medi-pod is equivalent to ITER (fusion reactor) in our world. So it could make sense why there are only 12 ever made, not to mention patents and developing it further to monopolize it.
Its likely that at the time only the 12 existed. When the ship was launched. By the time the ship arrived at the system. Full production of the pods was likely already in progress cause for those 2 years travel maybe 5 or 8 years went by on earth0. FTL causes some time dialation depending on speed and travel.
First run prototypes are always expensive. They were probably built using cutting edge but like our former Discovery space shuttles of the 1980s. Hideously expensive crafts
How does the gravity is generated inside the ship? Almost every ship even the space station like Sevastopol which is not a rotating wheel design have some kind of aritificial gravity.
Fun fact: Prometheus is my favourite Christmas film! 🎄🤔👽 🤖 Great content... I sacrificed the last of best biscuits with this!!! Happy New Year fellow Geeks... Let's make this one count!
Gotta say, as much as I picked holes in Prometheus after seeing it... the actual Prometheus SHIP was fantastically designed. Everything you could want in a little exploration vessel with a decently long run time. If only it hadn't been controlled by corporate muckety-mucks. I still wonder about that alien facility though; was it a bioweapon research lab where someone dropped a vial, killing everyone? Then why was the Black Goo left unattended and opened in that vault? Why would the Engineers leave a 'road map' to what SHOULD be 'secret bioweapon research lab on a deserted planet no one knows about', than to say... a military base where the Engineers would take more direct action against any newcomers? Why did the Engineers a: strand one of their own on Earth, with a dose of black goo to kill himself with, which in turn ended up accidentally/purposefully spawning life on Earth? If they didn't like creating life, then why bother?
The main problem here was that vessel looked more technologically advanced from Nostromo that was supposed to be build after Prometheus. That movie shouldn’t be connected to the Alien franchise at all. It’s sad that Ridley Scott stopped Neil Blomkamp from making Alien 5 with Sigourney Weaver. It could be the movie everyone was waiting for. But we got instead Prometheus and Covenant that sucked as hell.
Hey everyone, we know the megaparsecs distance is weird but thats just what the source material says, same with the rover powerplant being a bit mad.
- hoojiwana from Spacedock
@@GlamorousTitanic21 Yes but Spacedock content takes priority. I do have something in mind but not sure when I can get around to doing it.
To anyone wondering, a megaparsec is about 3.3 million lightyears, and our galaxy is roughly 100.000 lightyears across. This is one where we should probably either suspend disbelief or just assume the people in the alien universe use a different measurement.
I have a surprise for you, If Blade Runner 2049 Reconts Aliens back too 2079 old timeline we going to need too take 100 years off everything in the Colonial Marines Technical Manual,
Dates 2022 Blade Runner timeline, I have a vague suspicion Avatars date wrong as well?
2054 not 2154,
Bet you didn't see that coming,
Now it works.
The planet from Prometheus is not the one from Alien. thx
Mega parsec is wayyyyy outside of the Galaxy.
A great vessel inexplicably crewed by hysterical, unprofessional basket cases. Maybe Sir Peter ought to have dedicated more of the budget to that side of things?
Compared to the shiiiit show Alien Covenant was id say it was manned by geniuses! Covenant is the Star Wars sequel movies of the Alien franchise 👽 👌🏽
@@tarync6539 Covenant is the new Alien3 - the movie that ruined its predecessor, in my opinion.
Ummm… The Captain and pilots saved Earth?
@ alien 3 is an underrated movie without enough director control the exact opposite issue with covenant.
idk why all of u expect scientists to be brave... theyve probably never encoutered violence in their life and are suddenly on alien military planet light years away from home while everyone is dying around them pretty good reason to be hysterical if u ask me
The CGI in this movie was amazing.
That is all that was.
Despite the incredible thought and detail given to the ships, the movie hardly does them credit. Ships with such care given to design should span multiple episodes/series/movies to fully appreciate the craft.
yes, an well thought out, beautiful, inspiring craft.. in a really really average movie
@@LittlealxYT agreed. Unlike the wing-less WW2 fighter plane models re-used as "space superiority fighters" in the awful Wing Commander movie 😂
@@LittlealxYT Man I’d say even below that in retrospect.
I've never understood why all crews and squads in Alien/Predator/Weyland/Tyrell universe are so disfunction and unstable with each other.
@@R49_Complete I always figured that was the way of things in their time. Might not be tho.
Personally I like the design of this ship and I especially like the bridge (I'm always a sucker for a good bridge). Wouldn't mind commanding one if they existed.
I love a good bridge too.....Tower bridge is my fave.
@@dazzab111 lol 😀
Prometheus, Avatar, The Expanse.... there have been some really well thought out sci-fi ship designs in media
Avalon in passengers
@@anitathakur9340
Avalon in Passengers is One of the GREATEST ones ......
Like the Ship in the movie Wall-e
I've noticed Ridley Scott's interpretation of FTL travel ships have evolved through the decades. With the Prometheus front and center. Regardless of the amount of technology, using the primary ship as a terrain lander is a risk beyond belief in my mind. Understanding that this is fairy tale and they did want to showcase the outrigger rotating power plants. This is the only question mark in my mind regarding the Prometheus other than this fact it's a beautiful spacecraft.
Yeah... In my fiction, ships like the Pioneer make landings, because they're hyper-advanced, and the Pioneer (at 100 meters) is probably the biggest ship to make terrestrial landings commonly.
Other ships can technically make terrestrial landings, up to and including the Non-Sequitur, a behemoth of a thing over a kilometer long-but because they have the field-based thrust and the gravity repulsion tech *to* do it doesn't mean that *it's a good idea.*
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Anyways, it's for that reason that usually it's just smaller ships that make landings.
This is one of my all time favourite ship designs, as a standalone design and as it relates to the Nostromo - absolutely nailed the idea that it's a premium concept version of what will one day become the white van of spaceships, the M-Class starfreighter.
Nice timing. Prometheus is kind of a Christmas movie. It's got the date, some decorations, and a 'miraculous' birth.
I really like ship's design. There's a visible design lineage with the Nostromo, at least externally. The Serenity from Firefly also has a similar profile.
The whole movie has Christian overtones. When the three ship’s crew and captain sacrifice themselves for mankind’s sins, they parallel the three men on the crosses.
I'd agree on the similarity in design
While some people complain that the Prometheus looks anachronistic and too advanced compared to the Nostromo, they're usually forgetting that it's a science/exploration craft, while the Nostromo was a literal truck in space
@@347Jimmy I imagine they live in a technocracy. Like a class divide, your ability for social mobility depends on access to it in a way. I'd enjoy some meagre reasons for analogue still being used on starships in the Alien series though, just something akin to how it functions relatively in certain situations or something. Although, I'd be surprised if anyone ever made a 14" CRT monitor for space travel for a functional reason ever again. Choosing solid state and physical keypads e.g over touch screens seems reasonable. Maybe they'll nod to the idea in the new film, they intend show two halves of a station, one being technologically generations older than the other so they might cover it.
The Prometheus was Weyland's space yacht effectively... the peripheral crew were also hired by his daughter who thought his mission was b******t! :D
Anyone who knows the story of Prometheus should know better than to name a ship after him.
So does every SF that calls their ship Icarus or Titanic 2
That's why my ship would be the USCSS Hubris.
They probably thought they were in the clear, since there are no eagles in space.
“Sir, we’re not naming it Enterprise.”
“It’s a Greek tragedy!”
@@gorvarhadgarson5227That's why I'd call my spaceship the USS Shaved Nutsack.
You've never heard of any famous wrecks or ominous mythological stories about anything named Shaved Nutsack.
A great break down of the true star of that movie. The original script was better than what we got in theater but great visuals regardless.
may not have lived the film but it was a great ship and I wish there was more material on it. thank you for compiling so much here
Never saw the film but always liked the design. It's actually bigger than I thought it was
Yeah, don't. Unless you're fine with mind boggling character and plot decisions
Yeah , last few years have sure proven folks are supremely logical and rational under pressure 😅. The film has its flaws but good, if someone likes classic style scifi it fits.
@@swampmusicinfo I think so, too. It's actually not bad. Popcorn cinema with great visuals.
If you're a fan of the original Alien, please don't ever watch it. Despite how incredible the visuals look, the story in this as well as in Alien: Covenant completely ruin all of the mystery surrounding the space jockey from the original along with the origins of the alien itself. Unlike what many people these days seem to believe when it comes to prequels/sequels, not every single thing needs to be explained, especially when it comes to horror films. Some things are better left to the imagination.
@@LanceVanceDance84 Prometheus can only be seriously considered a reimagining or remix. There was at the time much debate if ever was a prequel , some familiar items dropped into a new universe
This thing was apparently used to inspire the design of the player's starter ship in Starfield. Fascinating.
I'm gonna grab some popcorn.
The Prometheus should've been the main ship of a sci-fi exploration *series.* It's too good to appear only on a single movie!
The details, the layout, the structures, the living enviroment, there's so much storytelling that could happen inside this ship!
(Idris Elba) "Mr. Ravel, warm up the ion propulsion."
(Charlize Theron) "What the hell are you talking about?"
(Ravel) "Sir, burning the ion in the inner atmosphere --"
(Idris Elba) "-- turns us into a bullet. That is exactly the point."
One of my favorite ships in the sci-fi of it all. She is gorgeous!
Yes, Noomi Rapace is. 😉
Damn, as someone who plays Star Citizen it's crazy seeing how inspirational this ship was to the design of several Star Citizen ships. Mainly the Carrack. The Carrack's bridge is straight from this movie, even down to the 'treadmill' control station. That's awesome.
My same thoughts I imagine being in the Prom when I fly my own Carrack
And a bit Constellation Andromeda
I just really like the prometheus. Its just a really good looking ship. The cool displays, the cool facilities, the interesting mission, i just want to own one. Also great breakdown.
I’d be happy being on one for a couple months or more
USCSS Prometheus. I've a model on display in my home. Love it!
Even though it was a comedy, you should do a breakdown of Spaceball I.
Thats like breaking down the Tardis😋
But I would love to see it too
@@Howlrunner82 Prepare ship for ludicrous speed!
@@isaackim7675 They've gone to plaid.
Prometheus is a comedy. Comedically stupid.
@@wehrewulf the ship is too big! If I walk, the movie will be over
Love these settings where a ship is used for exploration and it lands then used as a command base. Its more awesome when its a big ship so you dont feel like its just a car or a fancy rv.
The gym area and loading bay also appear to be either one and the same, or possibly parts of a larger space sub divided by a partition. This is based on the 'Stand clear when moving' stencil on the ramp and in the background of the briefing.
having rotating engines that become landing feet is like a car that can turn into a transformer. And having large rooms is like having a basketball stadium on the ISS
This may not have been the best movie, but the ship was cool
I don't care if the movie was good or not, but a movie with both Charlize Theron and Noomi Rapace in it gets my 10 points any day :)
I know it's an old game, but I would love to hear your thoughts on the ships from Descent Freespace/Freespace 2.
And Freespace 2 Blue planet
Oldies are the classics. So many gems from the 90s when quality games were produced in completion without a micro transaction model to make awful games barely fun 😡
So much thought and care went into the designs of the film. Shame the script didn't get the same treatment. So many goofy things happen in the film!
bunch of geeks found an alien military base i dont understand why is everyone so hard on this movie. cant imagine how else it could end up irl.
The Prometheus' rocker arm-mounted engines fascinate me -- but it's obvious they're meant to allow the ship to fly about like an aircraft in atmosphere. In space, shouldn't their default setting be landing mode so as to simulate gravity without invoking your typical sci-fi technobabble?
If they used thrust gravity yes it would be. But they use transitional scifi technobabble instead.
Also worth nothing the ship flies at FTL speeds, which means it has to somehow break the laws of physics, so inventing a gravity generator isn't much of a push once you can do that.
The only non-jargon “artificial gravity” I’ve read about are either rotating rings/tubes/spheres/etc or by constant acceleration of the ship.
For the latter example, the ship flips 180-degrees to decelerate to maintain perceived gravity.
@@montithered4741 the thrust gravity is both jargon and non-jargon, as no ship has enough reaction mass currently to generate enough thrust to maintain a noticable level of gravity for more than a very short period of time. The gravity is non-jargon, the drive systems are generally always jargon.
Centrifugal gravity however, not jargon at all, but its complicated by needing some from inertial cancellation for a moving ship (or to be precise when the ship is under thrust) or a system were crew are placed in harnesses. It does also create an interesting engineering problem as there can be high stress points in the design, which depending on the scale need you to invent jargon materials to have sufficient strength. That said, there is a fairly popular theme park ride that already proves this concept works exceptionally well and isn't overly difficult to achieve.
@@cgi2002
Having heard some things about the strength per kg (or per cm^3) of carbon fiber mesh, wouldn't that already be enough to handle the high-stress points in such a design?
(RealEngineering did an interesting video about new plane-fuselage designs)
@@MrNicoJac it very much depends on several factors.
The mass of the vessel in question, and its distribution. The distance from the central pivot point of the rotation.
The lateral forces been applied.
The quality of the materials themselves naturally also come into play.
Also how much of a margin of safety do you want. You don't design for what you expect to operate at, you design for what could happen.
This is one of those scenarios were you can't say "this will/won't work" unless you have the rest of the information. It's like designing a bridge, you know on the average day it needs to support 5000 vehicles, operate for 30 years in X weather conditions. You design it to accommodate 7500 vehicles a day for 40 years and for every year to have a once in a hundred years weather effect occur, because you never know what's going to happen in the future and while it has to work perfectly all the time, it only has to fail for less than 0.1 seconds once to be catastrophic.
That was a great looking ship. It sort of reminds me of a Colonial Battlestar.
Using the online warp speed calculator, Prometheus was capable of cruising at a fuzz over Warp Two. In the Star Trek universe, it preceded the official breaking of the Warp Two "barrier" but according to canon the 35 ly voyage, along with that of the Nostromo, took place well before the formation of Star Fleet and the Federation.
And that music is from Alien Fire Team Elite, in case anyone was wondering.
Due to a mix up, the ship that lands is the USAF Prometheus - a BC 303 Battlecruiser from Stargate command.
oh boy, would that have a different plot-
USAF prometheous may be a lot less refined but GODDAMN is it more powerful.
I was always curious about the FTL system in the 'Aliens' universe (was it like 'Warp Drive', 'Hyperspace', 'Real Space FTL....somehow").
With 'only' a 2 year travel time, did you really need to have 'Hypersleep' capsules?
Was there not enough space to store Food, Water, and other essentials for the trip?
As you said, "MegaPARSECS"?!?! kinda weird ^_^
Finally, did they teach future crew members how not to run into the shadow of something falling towards you? ^_^
If your FTL tech is just a blank warp journey where nothing changes, there's nothing to do or see...and you have the hibernation technology...why not sleep your way there.
The sheer boredom and tedium of the journey would seem more dangerous to the crew than just a long nap. Like taking a nap as you fly across the Atlantic or the Pacific on a jumbo jet.
Also its not always about storage. Somewhere in the lore of the alien universe it is mentioned that the human mind can't take hyperspace for long amounts of time. I know it is specifically mentioned in the Alien RPG
Alien never got bogged down with FTL technobabble. Even the novelization treated it as magic, taken for granted. BSG 2003 followed the same formula...the jump drives just worked.
Knowing the distance to Zeta Reticuli 2, (35 ly)and the time for Nostromo to get to Earth (10 months, according to Lambert) you can plug them into an online warp speed calculator. Space is big and even at FTL it takes time. The novelization for Alien had another plot issue: Nostromo wasn't designed for its crew to be awake full time. If they didn't get rid of the Xenomorph within a certain amount of time they'd have to go back into the freezers or suffocate.
Ships from the Alien Universe use tachyon shunts for FTL travel. The shunt basically transports a ship into some sort of tachyonic state, which allows said ship to achieve FTL velocities.
The Sulaco in particular could achieve a speed of 0.74 light years per day. The Nostromo is likely much slower.
Very good and informative video! Thanks a lot!
The landing sequence gives me goose bumps beucase it reminds me of all the space-x landings. I sure hope space-x has something like a prometheus ship planned.
I'm guessing that Elon Musk has an entire Weyland-Yutani Corporation planned.
I love this Elon Musk biopic.
Insane well thought out detail to enhance the films misc en scene's. Amazing.
The ship carries one of the most advanced medical robots ever made featuring state of the art scanners, imaging and diagnostic equipment. However it can only operate on men because Weyland didn't want to spring for the $20 expansion pack.
I think it's more of a statement that Wayland is literally only interested in himself and not even slightly in his daughter or the rest of the crew
Yeah Weyland was a selfish prick, probably did it so the diagnostics would go faster by not needing to account for gender, which in itself would probably have slowed in down a millionth of a second
Kind of help rounds off Weylands character as being completely uninterested in anyone's elses survival save his own.
Thanks so much for making this video!
Wonderful vid. Ideally balancing details woven with plot elements. Well done and thank you!
Very slick job here, packed with info and great graphics. Well-done.
This thing has so much inside it warps space harder than the Tardis.
At least the TARDIS has the courtesy of storing the interior in another dimension.
Nice touch using the music from aliens fireteam elite.
I immediately noticed this too hahaha
not only proto-indo-european but all known ancient languages. proto-indo-european isn't precisely known at this point in our timeline by the way, it is just a reconstructed guesswork (might be known at the time of prometheus though).
I remember only 1 thing about this film, which was that when i first watched it as a teenager, late at night, i wasn't scared at all by it, as is typical for me with horror stuff.
Then the end credits rolled, and whatever it was about the music that played with them, it fecking terrified me. Couldn't even sit through the whole set of credits.
Just for reference the USCSS Prometheus is the same length size as the SSV Normandy from Mass Effect. :)
For all us Sci-Fi fans.
For exploration and comfort I'll take the Prometheus, for battle it's the Normandy.
The Prometheus has a lot more internal volume, giving you nicer accommodations and a larger cargo capacity. But the Normandy is fast as fuck, you could zip all around a good sized bit of the galaxy with it even without the mass relays.
Amazing cinematography.
I want one!
USCSS Prometheus sounds more like a luxury yacht than a scout vessel.
They have FTL but still basically have fission powered propulsion. Fascinating.
Gotta remember even when the directors and writers phone it in, the designers and artists don't.
Mu favorite practical style ship in sci Fi!!! I love engines on pylons 😭😭
Thanks for the content.
A comment in another video mentioned this about the scuttling procedures, but the automatic detonation override did not work because Ripley did not do it correctly. Most people assume she wasn't quick enough, but on the emergency destruct system panel it clearly states:
*"FAILSAFE SYSTEM WILL NOT ENGAGE IF SAFETY INTERLOCKS ARE DISENGAGED. REENGAGE SAFETY INTERLOCKS PRIOR TO ABORT CODE INPUT"*
She failed to commit the abort procedure in the correct order.
Beautiful vessel.
Amazing ship from an amazing movie. Haven’t had the chills like that since Alien 1. What a thrill
"This medipod is calibrated for male patients only" is probably the part I abandoned all hope for this story.
Wasn't it Westland's personal pod?
@@jimmyjohnjames6397 Yes, but the movie tried to "hide" his presence in the ship at this moment, plus the medipod apparently was a very expensive piece of advances technology, so making it usable only for one sex was just a lazy way to give the audience a hint about Weyland's presence onboard. Finally, even if it was Weyland's personal pod, it was in Vicers' quarters.
That medipod limitation was the laziest writing of the movie in my opinion.
Love the content i was hopeing you guys can do the Kuun-Lan command ship
My favorite ship in all of sci-fi!!! I wonder why it took u so long to get to this masterpiece of a ship
wish the muvie was half this good as this spaceship-concept
Please do more homeworld ships
I love this ship, I always think about it throughout the years
The Prometheus ship is my favorite sci-fi spacecraft. All the Prometheus need is a warp drive, energy shields and then it would be perfect.
I want to see one on the USCSS Covenant now
This ship is why I dream to buy the odyssey in Star Citizen they share alot of resemblance
No, you mixed up things, Prometheus went to LV-223, while the Nostromo was instructed to investigate signal on LV426
Not sure where else to post this but can you do an episode on the Jupiter 2 from Lost in Space? Thanks
Is there a technical term for this overhanging cockpit window that makes it easy to look down for the pilot/driver? It is similar in function to the cabin of a crane operator and I also see utility for it on rovers on the planetary surface.
Spared no expense!
"Megaparsecs?" A parsec is 3.3 light years, so a megaparsec is 3,300,000 light years, or about 33 times the diameter of the galaxy itself. Megaparsecs (plural) would be 6,600,000 light years or more. Roughly three times further away than the Andromeda galaxy.
(In an earlier post, I mistook "Mega" for "Kilo" and gave the wrong numbers, so I'm posting this to correct it, rather than removing or editing my earlier post because I *AM* an idiot, and I don't see any reason not to own up to that)
Quick decision time. You can either go on a family fun vacation aboard the Prometheus or the Event Horizon..... choose wisely.
Prometheus and it's not even close. Especially if said vacation isn't going to any planets with LV in their designations. At least you can go faster than light without that spatial shortcut through the warp/hell.
No warp drive other than that it was nice ship. Warp of Worm hole drive is never mentioned yet they over these distances
in years . And wouldn't it be fusion to ion drive at least to stand a chance.
Quite the impressive ship. Too bad it was crewed by people so dumb that Charles Darwin smiled when they died.
6:07 And yet with this kind of high tech mapping, the idiot STILL gets lost.
Plots in many movies are far from logical and sometimes you can ask if a 12yo wrote them.
@@sleepingbackbone7581 A good rule of movie writing is this:. If the only way for the story to move forward is for the characters to make incredibly stupid decisions, your writing is bad.
Iirc one of the earlier scripts said that the daughter of Weyland specifically hired idiots with no common sense to undermine and sabotage the mission.
Why? Because she was annoyed at Peter Weyland for not giving the company to her, instead sticking to his stupid immortality.
Makes sense. Hire complete idiots, idiots die, mission fails, they get home and Weyland dies of old age, letting her inherit the corp. A solid, if brutal and evil plan
And then the Engineer wakes up and wants to bomb Earth.
@@apollodiomedes203 Sounded like said idiots were those she assumed would ruin the mission but likely not endanger everyone at least. Then the black goo that's essentially a bio-mechanical virus turned up.
hmm. virus... idiots....
sure rings a bell.
@@apollodiomedes203 And then she puts herself on the ship WITH the idiots, with a med-pod that's programmed NOT to work on her. If this is the caliber of folks W-Y hires for important decisions... it explains a lot, actually.
O they found something and it wasn't a divine flame for it was an ECH(Eldridge Cosmic Horror) and what was in it would become the greatest threat of humanity.
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great video!
Could you do the Wandering Earth Space Station
Would really like to experience such a colonization trip...
Could see myself well fitting such a team...
In the case of THIS team, that's not a compliment...
You'd be the first to die in the movie
The only good thing about this film.
You should do the Black Boa Ship from Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. Always loved that ship. My favorite next to this one.
Imagine that beautiful ship in star citizen
When do we get an Expanse Season 6 Force Recon. I would love the specs on the Pella, the Zanubia, etc.
Where's the Alien: USCSS Covenant | Ship Breakdown video? 🤔
Have you considered making a video about the SWSC-1 Olympus Mons, from that COD game? It's pretty nifty in my opinion
just watched the third episode of season 6 Expanse. are you going to cover that battle soon?
Great video as always!!!!
Sadly they forgot to mount a idiot sensor. That would have stopped half the crew and maybe have saved them 😂
My 2nd favourite ship from the franchise after the Nostromo.
Only *12 medipods* were ever built?
They should have been mass produced, which would drop the cost, and fitted as standard on every long range ship [enhanced to include female gender specific complaints] they are just so useful.
Yes there's a usually a medical officer, but what if _they are the one_ who needs medical attention?
And it could assist the medical officer if more than one crewmember was injured at the same time … and entirely plausible scenario as industrial accidents aren't taken in turn on a roster system.
You're still thinking small.
Imagine how much money could be saved if you didn't need surgeons anymore.
Sounds like a worthwhile investment for health insurance companies/hospital administrators, lol 😅
I can imagine each medi-pod is equivalent to ITER (fusion reactor) in our world. So it could make sense why there are only 12 ever made, not to mention patents and developing it further to monopolize it.
Only 12 of this high-end, cutting edge model were ever made. Probably medipod development is a highly competitive and ever changing field.
Its likely that at the time only the 12 existed. When the ship was launched. By the time the ship arrived at the system. Full production of the pods was likely already in progress cause for those 2 years travel maybe 5 or 8 years went by on earth0. FTL causes some time dialation depending on speed and travel.
First run prototypes are always expensive.
They were probably built using cutting edge but like our former Discovery space shuttles of the 1980s. Hideously expensive crafts
The RT series rover was shared platform with Tatra 815 :)
I never realized how much like Dr. Evil old Weyland looks in that hologram.
How does the gravity is generated inside the ship? Almost every ship even the space station like Sevastopol which is not a rotating wheel design have some kind of aritificial gravity.
Hello...can you make a short about the civilian fleet of Battlestar Galactica
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Great video.
Fun fact: Prometheus is my favourite Christmas film! 🎄🤔👽 🤖
Great content... I sacrificed the last of best biscuits with this!!!
Happy New Year fellow Geeks... Let's make this one count!
My favorite christmas film is Die Hard.
Don't mind me, just checking out ships that I'll build in Starfield
A large gym for playing basketball, riding a bike or both at once 😂😂
Gotta say, as much as I picked holes in Prometheus after seeing it... the actual Prometheus SHIP was fantastically designed. Everything you could want in a little exploration vessel with a decently long run time. If only it hadn't been controlled by corporate muckety-mucks.
I still wonder about that alien facility though; was it a bioweapon research lab where someone dropped a vial, killing everyone? Then why was the Black Goo left unattended and opened in that vault? Why would the Engineers leave a 'road map' to what SHOULD be 'secret bioweapon research lab on a deserted planet no one knows about', than to say... a military base where the Engineers would take more direct action against any newcomers? Why did the Engineers a: strand one of their own on Earth, with a dose of black goo to kill himself with, which in turn ended up accidentally/purposefully spawning life on Earth? If they didn't like creating life, then why bother?
I wanna see one of these with the narration being geared as a salesman selling one of these ships XD
The main problem here was that vessel looked more technologically advanced from Nostromo that was supposed to be build after Prometheus.
That movie shouldn’t be connected to the Alien franchise at all. It’s sad that Ridley Scott stopped Neil Blomkamp from making Alien 5 with Sigourney Weaver. It could be the movie everyone was waiting for. But we got instead Prometheus and Covenant that sucked as hell.
It's a nice looking ships but this thing looks about 200 years more advanced than anything in the Alien universe, especially the Nostromo.