BEST OVERDRIVE FOR DUAL RECTIFIER METAL - Overdrive test
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- Nerding out a little bit by testing out a couple of different OD pedals and which one would suit the best for a Dual Rectifier. FOR METAL THAT IS!
0:00 Intro
1:20 Overview of pedals
1:47 Roadster without Boost
2:04 Fortin 33
3:09 TC Electronic Line Drive
4:10 Horizon Devices Precision Drive
5:42 Ibanez TS9
6:24 Ibanez TS808
7:26 Marshall Guvnor
8:20 Boss SuperDrive
8:51 DAE Duality DX
10:03 Random Playing
12:02 Conclusion
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Nerd out Tuesday! Trying out a different overdrives for a Dual Rectifier.
Where's da metallzone? 😂
Maybe you can nerd out on the plasmacoil by gamechanger audio, because i just cant get that beast tamed
The mesa boogie Throttle box EQ Is where its at. Its like a $300 swiss army knife! But a very well spent $300.
I think we have a new contender for ”riffs you hate” :)
I want to order a solar guitar but it says they don’t ship to America 🇺🇸 🤷🏽♂️ .... what gives?
My wife: “what the hell are you watching it’s annoying”
Me: Honey, it’s science. It’s important.
Exactly!
True story lmfao
Same here
Yes, you want the amp in overdrive, not the wife.
liar, wamen dont exist
Explaining what qualifies as a good chug to my wife is like teaching calculus to a toddler. All I get from her is a bunch of eye rolling. Lol.
Cheers!
Something tells me that this looped riff is gonna be played in my dreams
hopefully including a dancing Ola...
@@OlaEnglund sleep paralysis be like
"Riff I hate".
@@OlaEnglund Sorry Ola,.... no offense, my man,....but I think it is more likely to be Louise dancing than you if it was my dream.
This is the first comment I read after watching and I already can’t remember it 🤣
I was waiting for you to turn all of them on!!!!
I was just scrolling down to comment this lol
That would be distortion not overdrive but yes It maybe the ultimate goal of chug life
This.
"Some men just want to watch the world burn"
The amp will explode. Umm... Good idea.
Cool idea. The only thing I’d recommend is not switching microphones during the demo. There was a much bigger difference when you did that than when switching pedals.
This. Or at least not right before switching...
Yeah, I wish he’d stick to blended mics all the time
This is a great call out. Maybe a better approach would be demo them all round robin with one mic. Then switch mics and go around again.
Shit like this is what I hated about Fluff's pickup demos.
Here's Random Guitar plugged into an ever changing parade of overdrives, into one of like 20 amps, with one of 6 gorillion non standard mics, with a rack of effects going on the DAW..
Super strat or LP/SG/V, Marshall &/or Mesa, fuck off with the overdrive & use an SM57. Give me a point of comparison I can work with.
I have to agree as well.
It drives me mad how everyone just quickly glosses over the SD-1 and shrugs it off as being "nothing special." It's simply one of the best and most reliable overdrives out there and it works great with any combination of guitar/amp. It gets no respect merely because it doesn't cost an arm, and it's been around forever.
Before I downgraded to just using a practice amp at home the SD-1 was all I'd use. I will stand by it until death.
The most criminally underrated Boss pedal, its cheap and extremely reliable with awesome tones, it’s a little brighter than an Ibanez Screamer but if you scoop the tone you can achieve the same warmth with ease. Not to mention the lineup of incredible guitarists who have achieved their most iconic tones with it. If I could have one pedal on my board it would be the SD-1
I love my SD-1…. So much that I already repaired it a few times.
The best one is the SD-1, don’t be mesmerized by the price tag Ola.
I buy and sell loads of amps and never keep them. Still have my Rectifier because the SD-1 gives it that mid notch that opens it up. Criminal how he glossed over it like it didn't sound better than some of the shite he dialled in with other pedals
Funnily enough the "nothing special" SD-1 was the best to me. Really tightened up the low end and gave a nice treble boost!
Agreed!!
Funny, to me it sounded like it retained the low end, which is good. The TS9 actually tightens it up, it’s known for that
I really like the sound of the Boss Super OD. Been using these as boosts for years and they add some real bite to the sound...at least to my ears!
Same here!
Best one!
Kind of seems like he just breezed through that one. Don't underestimate the sound and power of a Boss pedal through a Boss Amp!
I was in my home theater listening and honestly, I couldn’t tell the difference between tube screamers. I think it might be something one has to hear in person.
808 had more aggressive highs and the TS9 was slightly softer on the upper mids. Could hear it through my monitors.
Same, at first. Listening through my Denon AVR and KEF speakers, during the looping segment I couldn’t hear much difference between the pedals, aside from when he was tweaking the controls, and changing mics. However, once the live guitar was being played through them, I could hear the difference between them. Weird!
Yeah listened on my phone speaker, couldn't hear any difference. People just like more expensive stuff 🙄🙄
This is a joke please nobody kill me
@@havefuckingheart nah there is something to that though, a lot of people are REALLY nitpicky about details that will get absolutely lost both on an album and live.
Ibanez TS9 for that classic sound for me.
The Boss SD-1 stock version deserves to be in this test and IMHO beats more expensive pedals. I don´t know why you pass over it, the waza model without dig it a little bit more, it has the same simplicity as Ts9 and Ts808 (three f**kn buttons!!), and I don´t agree, Boss SD-1 has something special man. By the way nice video
I was actually really surprised at your lack of enthusiasm for the Boss SD-1, I thought it sounded way better than the ibanez ones. The DAE is great but probably an arm an leg to buy and long shipping times
The TS9 does everything I need it to do, it’s what I use, but that 33 sounds amazing. 🤔
Wow the Horizon Devices was simultaneously my favourite and least favourite depending on where things were dialed. Thanks for setting this up!
that's a good point, didn't realize that until you said it like that
@@metal_helm Yeah, I'd like to try one in person to see what it's like in person.
The PD as a boost doesn't sound as good as it can with the Vol up full. Imo it's sounds best between 12 and 3 o'clock
Lately I’ve been using my Boss SD-1, cranked volume and a touch of gain through my Orange set with a light crunch. Just sounds awesome, cuts and sounds chunky without any loose bottom end
Too much distortion will just muddy the rhythms and you lose that punch so there's a sweet spot somewhere so your mutes sound chunky and pumpy but not sloppy. The ones that retained the mids/bass sounded nice and fat.
That's the trick.
Most guys just dial up the gain to max, but it makes riffs so much clearer and tighter with the gain rolled off a bit...
Personally I want my amp (Laney Ironheart) to deliver that much gain on its own, instead of half on a pedal and half from the amp. Keeps things simpler and all-tube too.
I thought the whole idea of using an OD in front of your amp was to boost it with the drive of the pedal on zero, the volume on 10 and the tone 1/2 to 3/4 or to personal taste. That’s the way Ola had the TS9 it looked like to me, same as I set my TS9. Unless you are referring to the amp settings, then true you don’t want the gain dimed unless you’re a newbie and don’t know any better. I have experimented with the drive knob on the OD pedal a little bit though, and got some good tones like with my Dark Terror.
I like a lot of distortion in highs, upper mids,, little less on lower miss and less on lows..
Agreed. Listen to Opeth’s Deliverance album, specifically Master’s Apprentices for an example of rolling the distortion back. Very tight and punchy.
A more scooped example of a good recto tone would be Rammstein’s Sehnsucht.
In my minimal experience, the overdrive that I like the most with rectifiers and pretty much with any amp is the MXR GT-OD. It's kinda like a hybrid between the SD-1 and the TS9 and it has made wonders for me. In fact, it's the only overdrive that I've used for the past 10 years.
For its functions, the precision drive is my favorite. You can set it up like a TS9, get very close to the 33 sound and it has a built-in noise gate. Versatile af.
Great video. I love TS and always use it in my set, as my main "crunch" or even as a simple boost. Thank you for this sharing!
Love how you sat down and broke these all out in an easy to do way to find the best tone of all
Love to see the Plumes OD featured on this series! Just got mine a few days ago
Ola, I have been using a RAT as a boost similar to how you would use a tube screamer. Distortion low, level all the way up and filter to taste. It's so kickass. It gives the amp a little bit of a chewy feel that I love. It would be cool to see how you like it. Most people use a RAT as an all out distortion/fuzz, but at low distortion settings it makes for a killer boost into high gain amps.
Very cool comparisons.
I liked them all, but really like the white DAE pedal.
Sd-1 all the way. I love the rasp it introduces, distorted tones sound so good when they are also kind of “ugly” and to me that’s why the sd-1 always shines. It’s a world class overdrive that you can buy used all day for $40-50. At some point you just gotta realize no crowd is gonna be able to tell any difference between any of these pedals in a live mix. Your hands and ability to eq your amp will be so much more important.
For an always-on overdrive, it’s hard to beat the TS9 and the TC Booster. For lead/solo overdrive, the SD-1 still wins.
Meshuggah used the Integrated Preamp, rather than the Line Driver. The circuit is pretty much just a Baxandall high and low shelf, so when the "bass" knob is turned down, the high Q value creates a hump above the centre frequency. So it's lowered lows and boosted mids, very simple and effective.
Thank you for doing this pedal comparison Ola.
This is my favorite kind of gear content.
Thanks!🤘🏼
I tried the Revv G3 with zero drive and voicing on blue in front of the old JCM800 ....the tightest tone i've ever had.
I love that pedal. I had it until I bought my EVH Stealth head then I figured what's the use, and sold it to put towards the new head, but I wish I had it now just to try in front of this head.
I spend way too much money chasing metal tones dude lol
Wow,I bet that is a killer tone
Revv makes some killer stuff. I have a Revv noise gate and by far the best gate I’ve ever used
10:03 Rectifier
10:10 TC
10:26 33 11:44
10:36 Horizon 10:42 10:49 10:48
10:55 TS 11:58
11:02 TS older
11:10 Marshall
11:20 Boss
11:30 DAE
It's been mentioned already, but my request is also to definitely keep it just to the blended mics. It's really difficult to analyze (and enjoy) the great tones with the reference being unstable.
the duality sounds the best to my ears!! and its last in line! Impressive! ive used a maxon od808 for years ive tried alot of others but i keep coming back to it!!
1:50 I think you are one of the first youtuber to make that dance whilst engaging a loop.
In sure Stevie t has done it once or twice in one of his catalogs xD
Cool comparison, liked Duality the best. Would have loved to hear the Maxxon od808 in that comparison though🤘
Really cool idea for an episode Ola!
You REALLY come up with the best ideas! More of this!
I love my Mini Rectifier boosted by my Maxon OD808!
surprised he didnt have one of those to showcase,,,though think he did one trying to get the cannibal tone
Yeah now we are talking that Maxon all day everyday.
In my opinion, the Maxon is the go to booster if you don’t want your amp to sound thinner
The TS9, 33 and the DAE. The DAE actually really surprised me
I was expecting the Horizon to be the more modern sounding one. The DAE wins it for me due to shaping ability and a bit more modern sound.
I still wonder what just using a boosted 10-band eq would do and if this is enough?
I love my Precision Drive, I'm always happy to see more people getting along with it.
I am using a Xotic RC booster with late 90s dual rectifier and pretty happy with it.
depending on the settings it can a little bit of fuzziness into it with I found real wild and awesome
Thanks for the video, really nerdy but really interesting
That guitar magically appeared!! Ola the Warlockerer
The Dual Rec was my first love back in the early 90's (I really appreciate the DR's clean tones as well for that matter), and I still love it. But then I discovered the Orange Thunderverb and it's been my amp of choice ever since. Funny, I'm not a huge fan of the Orange sound in general, but there's something SO fucking perfect about the Thunderverb. Similar to the single-knob functionality of the 33 pedal here, the Thunderverb's second channel only has a single "shape" knob (along with a volume & a gain). Beautifully simplistic, & paired with a tube screamer it chugs like a mf! I don't think I'd have ever taken notice of the Thunderverb if it weren't for Corrosion of Conformity's Pepper Keenan. The amazing, gritty tones on the "Deliverance", "Wiseblood", & "Into the Arms of God" albums just blew my head off, and when I saw them live Pepper's Thunderverb together with Woody's Dual Rectifier just sounded fucking stellar.
I'd love to see Ola's take on the Thunderverb. It gets overlooked a lot, but lemme tell you it's a real workhorse!! 💪 Ever since that concert I've been panning a DR to one side and a TVerb to the other with pretty cool results. For me they compliment each other perfectly. If anyone wants to try them out together without breaking the bank Amplitube even has really decent models of both.
Great idea for a series. Look forward to more.
I love the TC Electronic Line Booster pedal. Been using it since 2010.
I've played for 15 years and never tried a tube screamer yet. I should get out more.
Gotta say, I still prefer the TS9 sound. Just a solid classic.
This is a great video concept. Very helpful!
Would love to see a Klon type circuit used as a boost/OD for metal. I haven’t seen many try it and I honestly don’t know why. Hump frequency is slightly higher than the TS, so it seems like it would be good especially for a bottom heavy amp. Kind of halfway between a TS and a Treble Booster.
Great idea for a video series! I use an sd-1 for boosting my amps but I have a wampler plexi drive which works great too.
Ferrty fwee 💪
I can’t even imagine how bad my accent would be if I had to learn whatever the hell viking language he speaks
@@Ottophil swedish is difficult, very difficult.
Loving the 33!
Ola, your test format is as close to perfect as any tester: a looper so the test signal is consistent across all pedals. This removes the tester himself from the experiment. I have suggested it to many reviewers. Thank you very much.
Loved the simplicity and instant effectiveness of the 33.
The Marshall Governor was the only one I could really differentiate from the rest.
Same… they all sound like Ola playing through a Dual Rect. Except the Marshall sounded like Ola playing through something ...warmer?
Ya it was way shittier lol
That Boss SD seemed to have a little more clarity than the rest. I love how snarly the 33 got though.
Genius Ola Englund, Best tip ever use looper to check out different settings
I really LOVE the Precision Drive for all my amps. The attach button is invaluable to really tighten up a flubby or boomy amp.
That riff gonna be in my head all day haha
Killer as always. You should let us know the settings of the amplifier also in this series. Chug life.
Usually it's pretty casual, everything around 12 o clock except maybe gain that is maybe at 2 o clock!
@@OlaEnglund overdrive for days
As someone who owns a Boss Overdrive pedal (Mine is an OD-1X and is my main pedal that I use for my dirty sound) I can definitely say that they're awesome and super solid-sounding pedals
I have a maxon OD9 That I have been using for a long time with my dual rectifier but as of late I got the HX effects unit that has the horizon drive pedal in it. And boy I think that might be my new favorite overdrive petal for a dual rectifier. Hearing them side by side and your video I think I still feel that way they're both phenomenal pedals though.
I do appreciate it when it's this informative, less burping and jokes. Just a demo of great pedals.
Your office is like a heavy metal laboratory these days. Lol
Hey Ola. I’m an 808 guy, it’s one of those pedals that’s so good. Another I would recommend is the Master Effects Warmonger. They are made in Calgary Alberta, Canada. This pedal is wicked, it has the 808 circuitry and also has the TC electronics TCIP circuit. Theres an A/B switch to go back and forth and also a bypass. This is Gord Olson’s signature pedal. He plays guitar in Divinity, Demisery with Keith Merrow and does vocals in Darkened. I think you would really like this pedal and also other ones Master Effects makes. Cheers
I use a OCD Overdrive Pedal with my Producers Peavey XXX in the studio. I tried a TS9, a Boss Overdrive, a Digitech Overdrive, and many more Overdrive Pedals after my Producer got his Peavey XXX, and the OCD Overdrive too my ear's, had the clearest tone, but it still added more gain, and gave the XXX more bottom end and grit. I liked the TS9, but it really scoops the mids of a XXX Amp. Guess I'm the odd one out, because my favorite overdrive or boost pedal, is one you don't have Ola. Take Care Man. Keep Chuggin.🤘🏻🤘🏻
Ocd fulltone keep best the tonals caracteristics of the amp.
The TS and SD1 have a such unique sound. Even if you din't see you would probably know that its a TS or a SD1 boosting
that duality and the 33 sound great!
Thanks Ola I needed this video!
honestly I think the real answer is a compressor pedal.
Mooer Yellow Comp, level at noon, comp and tone knobs on 10, boosts like nothing else. I leave it always on for the cleans as well
Try the OCD fulltone. She's Amazing !
Dude, Boss SD sounds best to boost it. I would have thought a tube screamer but not anymore!
SD1 works for me. Inexpensive too.
The SD1 is way better than the TS range for diming a metal amp.
Same. I have the Zack Wydle od which is a clone of the boss. I think what makes it different is "symmetrical clipping". Whatever that is! That Fortin 33 was pushing hard too!
I have a Boss multi effect that has the Boss OD-1 and also the the TS 808 modelled in there. Now I know modelling isn't spot on and the SD sounds a bit different than the OD but the OD sounds so much better than the TS. It has more of a beefy bark to it. I started using the 808 but accidentally switched the knob to the OD-1 and I was totally caught by surprise.
@@NobodyNewsNetwork I like the Fortin too but can't deal with the price lol
Damn good timing on this series starting! Just got myself a little Randall tube amplifier and am looking to get my first overdrive pedal. I've been leaning towards the TS9 but I'm so damn indecisive I'm gonna keep watching demos for awhile before I choose lol
You'll keep second guessing yourself forever.
For every song and every guitar and every amp there is a different "perfect" pedal,.. and that will change day to day with your mood, the room, the time of day, the genre of music, etc....
Just buy the TS9,.... or ANY other Tube Screamer made by Ibanez or Maxon,.... you can't go wrong.
Cool video series, excited to see more
Do a Marshall DSL20 next! \m/
Try Orange Dark Terror boosted with behringer fuzz! One of my favourite tones.
*favorite
@@dildojizzbaggins6969 you might want to look up British English friend lol
@@dildojizzbaggins6969 I was taught British English in school
@@adamnesbitt11 you don't seem to be british, sooo..... :D
ofc when your school-system is fucked up, not your fault. but aren't you grown up now and can do better? just a thought.
@@dildojizzbaggins6969 I'm English. My point was that you corrected him when he wasn't wrong.
An amazing idea, thank you so much!
Great video ola 🤘🏼
Ah man I wish you hadn't constantly switched between mics while doing this. Makes it really difficult to focus on the sound of the overdrives when the overall sound keeps changing.
How about the mud killer. ? It’s amazing on my Dual
@Michael Spence hellyeah is very cool
Do you have one?
I've heard that the mud killer absolutely slays with a Rectifier.
like you, my favorite on this test is ts9. i owned it with boss ds1 and mesa grid slammer. in real, my favorite is mesa grid slammer with rectifiers (triple rev G and roadster), and ts9 with 84' IIC+. Thank you for this test, and all your beautiful work for years ;-)
Sweet video. I use to use a maxon od808 with my roadster. As well as my evh stealth 50
I always use my classic ibanez tube screamer for all my tube amps. Problem solved money saved
hard to do wrong with a TS
@@OlaEnglund yes but I still like collecting overdrive pedals so it's a catch 22 😁
I use Ibanez Ts-808 Dx and it is all what I need. Boost overall sound and then when i want play solo I just boost it for clean boost 😃. First three od's are 1. Ts808, 2. Ts9 and 3. Fortin 33
Sd1 & the screamers sound the best to my ears. Marshall and the 33 the worst, marshall sounded fizzy and brittle and the 33 was advancing on TV static noise.
Marshall really depends on how you dial it in. Bass and gain knobs are TOUCHY as hell. Makes an insanely sweet boost with the right settings.
Duuuuuude killer video. Super helpful. Gonna go with that Fortin for me.
Bad ass stuff man. I get lots of ideas about gear from your channel. I post little guitar videos now, glad you keep doing these.
I know there are thousands of overdrives but for its hype I expected earthquaker devices plumes to be there
I'll be the annoying dude that says "do the 5150"
beat me to it smh
Fluff has a Recto vs 5150 demo. Really no difference in sound worth worrying about. 5150 is almost identical to the recto circuitwise too.
@@kampfkustomer2343 Dude, if you haven't so far, you have to play both yourself. Firstly they are largely different. Secondly and most important both are good for your soul. 😂
@@ShenkedtoDeath haha and always an answer like that! 🤣 cheers dude
Ok yeah me too!
Nice new series, i would recommend adding the Maxon ST9PRO+ on the list of overdrives; the low boost is just really good.
Great video and comparison. TS9 all the way, for me.
1:47 🕺
Wait did you not even turn on the ts808 lol? Wat.
Legendary sir. Thank you I have a grind but thinking I need a 33 and a horizon
If I'm honest it's a bit confusing when you switch pedals and microphones at the same time...
Isn't it easier to just set those mics in a nice mix, and forget about them?
My preferences:
1 - get a good amp, you won't need an OD 😀🤘
2 - Guvnor (the UK-made)
3 - 808 for proper old-school riffs
Thanks for taking the time and effort Ola!!! 😉👊🙏
My fav was the Precision Drive for its options for tone and tightness and having a gate. Seems it can dial in well based on different circumstances.
Love the options and sound of a the precision drive mainly because to me it really reminds me of when I used to have my 6505+ I used a tone city kaffir lime that I still have I think. I'd love to see a a will it chug of that pedal as it's so cheap, but great sounding in my opinion. Loved the video and now I'm stocked to see what amp is next!
TC and 33 in one....Space saver and just flat out outstanding Peper Dirty Tree Boost !!!!! $$$ Very reasonably Price to boot!!
You're the boss, you inspired me so much indeed.i play your technic stuff,you blow my metal mind. You are a Very good teacher to me.... Seilute 🙏🙏🙏🤘🤘🤘🤘
Love you bro I’m glad people love the Roadster even if we need an OD pedal in front
For those who don,t know. The sd1’s wasabi or waza variant is built for extended range guitars and tames the lows like nothing else at that price.
The TS808 and the Boss won my heart. Awesome.
LOVE this series. Do the Engl Fireball 100!