ORIGIN EFFECTS REVIVAL DRIVE... DRIVE THAT WORKS WITH ANY AMP!

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  • The Origin Effects Revival Drive, incredible amp-like overdrive and distortion that is tuneable to just about any amplifier, including a flat power amp... for info: origineffects.com
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  • @igorzavalnyi5341
    @igorzavalnyi5341 6 років тому +9

    Have been following Pete and watching his demos for a while. And I noticed, that regardless the gear he uses and demos, Pete always sounds aaaaawwweeesome. So the main thing I've learnt so far is that I gotta stop complaining about my gear and quit acquiring new stuff and just learn to play and sound like me. Thanks, Pete :)

  • @blinedriver
    @blinedriver 4 роки тому +2

    That Marshall v.s Pedal/Power Amp comparison was absolutely amazing!!!! WOW!

  • @AmundBlixAaeng
    @AmundBlixAaeng 6 років тому +9

    Damn, the Origin into the Matrix pretty much NAILED the Marshall tone, unbelievably close match. Wow

  • @tomivy11
    @tomivy11 6 років тому +3

    Dude, Pete your the best man! Always informative, the best mix between playing and talking! Love your channel man!

  • @patrickcarroll1754
    @patrickcarroll1754 6 років тому +44

    You know who’s a creative force? Pete Thorn.

  • @OscillationOverdrive
    @OscillationOverdrive 6 років тому +1

    Truly great sounds you've gotten out of that. Awesome pedal, great demo.

  • @samhudson1169
    @samhudson1169 6 років тому +3

    The pronunciation of 'silicon' was perfectly fine for us Brits Pete! Cheers for a totally badass demo (again)

  • @jorgeleonel6663
    @jorgeleonel6663 6 років тому

    Awesome review of the fantastic Revival Drive. Way to go Pete!

  • @Sir_Dickbag
    @Sir_Dickbag 6 років тому +2

    I cannot believe how good this thing sounds! Awesome playing as always, Pete!

  • @Relayer6a
    @Relayer6a 4 роки тому

    Best pedal demos keep me coming back.

  • @stevenash1215
    @stevenash1215 5 років тому +2

    Running it straight into the power amp was very impressive! Hard to believe it can come that close to recreating the Marshall.

  • @rdoetjes
    @rdoetjes 5 років тому +2

    Awesome playing and great sound!

  • @donny_doyle
    @donny_doyle 5 років тому

    Great demo, awesome playing, sweet tones...
    Rock on dude.
    Oh yes, wicked pedal too.

  • @raynj728
    @raynj728 5 років тому +2

    Hey Pete! Thanks for the video.....sounds like a great pedal!

  • @rikvee
    @rikvee 4 роки тому

    Superb.... the playing, the pedal, and the demonstration of it! My time wasn't wasted, instead I learned something while enjoying some great guitar playing... as I said, SUPERB! Thank you Pete, love your work :)

  • @kenk7049
    @kenk7049 4 роки тому +1

    I have this one and a Tone Master Deluxe Reverb and I'm very happy with it.

  • @paulhudgins
    @paulhudgins 6 років тому +28

    This pedal sounds ridiculously good.

    • @U2WB
      @U2WB 6 років тому +3

      Paul Hudgins Pete sounds ridiculously good !

    • @leelee8791
      @leelee8791 6 років тому

      U2WB that is why companies pay him much 💰 to demo. This is his job.

  • @eggman1978
    @eggman1978 6 років тому +1

    Your demos and reviews are superb really detailed and i sure wish I could play guitar like you do lol.

  • @mattheweastel129
    @mattheweastel129 5 років тому +1

    Wow, this was an incredibly well-explained and concise demo of a complicated pedal. Very well done Pete. Incredible playing too, particularly on your Suhr at 17:46, amazing change of rhythms! I thought the comparison to the Marshall was very very close. This is not my bag, but I appreciate what a clever bit of kit this is

  • @parksed24
    @parksed24 4 роки тому

    Finally got to spend some time with one of these, it sounds awesome and feels really good to play. I need one...

    • @JDAfrica
      @JDAfrica 3 роки тому

      Can the Revival Drive do low gain, slow hand blues / John Mayer tones?

  • @kingfisher7960
    @kingfisher7960 2 роки тому

    Great music Pete! Keep them coming!

  • @EmilioConesa
    @EmilioConesa 6 років тому +1

    Great track Pete!

  • @clembo3rc
    @clembo3rc 6 років тому +1

    Wow that sounds fantastic.

  • @Greg-rd8qr
    @Greg-rd8qr 5 років тому +1

    Awesome thanks Pete

  • @punkpop101
    @punkpop101 6 років тому +1

    Really amazing drive.

  • @MrBothandNether
    @MrBothandNether 6 років тому +1

    Shopping for a drive pedal, this looks like the one.
    Thanx!
    my knuckles get like that so much more than when I was young,
    -just from walking from room to room these days :)

  • @wooliegeek
    @wooliegeek 6 років тому +4

    Oh my, looks like you have the new TC2290 interface on your desk. 🤩🤩🤩

  • @julioguitarrista
    @julioguitarrista 5 років тому +1

    Awesome!!! Very versatile!!!

  • @americanhorseman
    @americanhorseman 6 років тому

    Awesome review Pete!

  • @Ssbad24
    @Ssbad24 6 років тому +2

    Pete and Satriani...my two fav guitarists. :)

  • @dapperdanman1956
    @dapperdanman1956 6 років тому

    Super bad ass play Pete Thorn! Dam great sounds cheers to ya.

  • @landajimmy
    @landajimmy 6 років тому +1

    this guy does the best gear reviews

  • @MisterGuitarItalia
    @MisterGuitarItalia 6 років тому +1

    That opening jam...damn!!

  • @nicholasparis5281
    @nicholasparis5281 5 років тому

    Nice to see you use that Tech21 Geddy Lee Bass rack pre.. I was going to pick one of those up for tracking myself.. now I know how they can sound!

  • @SamLowry_DZ-015
    @SamLowry_DZ-015 6 років тому +1

    Great Demo!

  • @BenvanGeest
    @BenvanGeest 6 років тому +2

    Great stuff, Pete! Excellent sounding drive pedal. One of the best I've heard I think. Also, did I just see a the new TC 2290 in the back there? ;-)

  • @nicholasparis5281
    @nicholasparis5281 5 років тому

    Pete Thorn's always a SUHR thing haha! Love your licks man!

  • @adamcaveproject8299
    @adamcaveproject8299 6 років тому

    Ok Pete that's really crazy good. Don't know how long it took you to get the same amp sound from the solid state amp, but that was wonderfully accurate. Kudos to Origin on this. Very cool pedal.

  • @MajRatbag
    @MajRatbag 5 років тому +3

    As always Pete, great informative video by an intelligent, skilled guy which is rare these days with the amount of muppets making guitar videos. You are a trustworthy source of information, mad respect dude.

  • @gioelevio1626
    @gioelevio1626 6 років тому +1

    Stellar demo:D!! Right way to start my day! Is that the new 2290 in the desk?

  • @csgband
    @csgband 6 років тому

    Great stuff, cool to see the 2290

  • @IPushHard
    @IPushHard 6 років тому +1

    Wow Pete!
    That 1st burst of the pedal after you explained the controls (AC/DC) surprised me. It got nasty in just the right frequencies immediately. Very impressive.
    Maybe there's a sound (or 10) in there for me? : )
    Part of me likes it because it looks like part of star ship weapons ordinance control. But the tones back up the look.
    Sweet pedal!

  • @guitarolm
    @guitarolm 6 років тому +2

    the opening reminded me of some of Jason Falkner's solo stuff and The Grays. great stuff, Pete!

    • @jesse_cole
      @jesse_cole 6 років тому +2

      Except for the drums, which kinda reek of "standard rock-guitar-instrumental" music from a guitar store commercial, I completely agree... I've heard the occasional hint of Jason Falkner-esque melodies in Pete's stuff more than once, and that's definitely a compliment.

    • @guitarolm
      @guitarolm 6 років тому +1

      agreed :)

  • @musicmann1967
    @musicmann1967 6 років тому +8

    i watched the videos at the Origin Effects site by Simon, and they really are good. He's a bit of a mad scientist, but he's also a guitar player, and he knows tone. He explains things really well, and if anyone here is interested in this pedal, they owe it to themselves to watch those clips. And they would be invaluable to you if you got the pedal, IMO. Great job Pete!! This makes me start taking inventory, and deciding what to sell to get this pedal! lol

    • @xthexadvantagex
      @xthexadvantagex 5 років тому

      Larry Lachmann same here on the inventory lol

  • @jcserrano1663
    @jcserrano1663 3 роки тому

    Another great video, Imho, I think you nail it. Pete, What are your 2 favorite od/distortion pedals???

  • @SIRONEDRAGON
    @SIRONEDRAGON 6 років тому +3

    Super !!!

  • @TheParanoidAndroid79
    @TheParanoidAndroid79 6 років тому +1

    Hey, Pete. Thanks for the professional and thorough demo. Do you think this will find its way onto your board?

  • @chrisbirch92
    @chrisbirch92 4 роки тому

    This might be the best pedal I’ve ever heard

  • @napalmhardcore
    @napalmhardcore 6 років тому +7

    The tone through the power amp sounded incredibly close. I'd like to know, how did the feel compare? I'm also curious to know if you've tried running other drive pedals into it.
    From what I've seen so far, this seems like one of the most exciting pedals to come out in the last few years, and there have been a lot of absolutely killer ones released.

  • @erikelderson740
    @erikelderson740 4 роки тому

    Hi Pete, I am a huge fan! Thanks for making these great video’s. Question, what is the device on the Suhr Bella amp. I see this in al lot of video’s. Thanks Pete! Best regards from the Netherlands!

  • @CarlyonProduction
    @CarlyonProduction 2 роки тому +3

    It would be so good if this was programmable so you could really make the most of the complexity. That way you could save all your favourite presets and it could do soo much!

  • @oleksandrhorskyi8442
    @oleksandrhorskyi8442 5 років тому

    First of all - Pete, you're the best, thanks for a great review!
    I know I might be asking a bit too much since this monster is offering so much different stuff but i would like this to work in parallel stereo, valve to L and silicon to R. Since i'm using a stereo rig with 2 different amps I might consider switching to this one. But hey, can I even complain looking at this? Wow!

  • @joequintana5546
    @joequintana5546 5 років тому +2

    This reminds me of what Tech 21 did a very, very, very long time ago with the Sans Amp.

  • @franknguitars7671
    @franknguitars7671 6 років тому +2

    Awesome demo - as always! I thought that the pedal plus poweramp sounded even a bit better than the real Marshall. It was close, but the pedal sounded a bit harmonically richer to me (listening with good headphones). Anyways, the pedal is scary complicated but sounds great dialed in with competent ears.

  • @stroopwafel6141
    @stroopwafel6141 6 років тому

    Excellent demo and sounds. So many knobs are a tad scary ;-)

  • @hv8546
    @hv8546 6 років тому +1

    Nice. As always, but where is the 3rd part of your new pedalboard? :)

  • @mytone100
    @mytone100 4 роки тому

    Amazing piece of gear I to have an early JTM and can match it so damn close its scary. To the guys question about the feel, I think it feels a little better than the Marshall. And it does so much more. I think Simon is a Mad Scientist/Genius.

  • @manifestgtr
    @manifestgtr 4 роки тому

    This is one of those pedals I would DEFINITELY own if I did a bunch of fly dates, amp on stage, amp in studio dates. The thing with me is...I take my bassman, king of tone, tube screamer combo with me everywhere (unless it’s a small stage, low dough affair...then it’s the Ritchie flyrig). So my core sound is basically that. It’s pretty simple and easy to tune. I can absolutely see a context for this pedal though...it’s just not my particular situation. Who knows...maybe it will be at some point.

  • @Dschungelsepp
    @Dschungelsepp 6 років тому

    Hi Pete! Have you ever tried the Tech 21 Plexi? They actually plugged that pedal also into one of their transistor power amps and it sounded ok!

  • @stratorarious
    @stratorarious 6 років тому +2

    Holy frickin crap that's some hot geetar pickin... : )

  • @Littlegamer2048
    @Littlegamer2048 6 років тому +1

    Sounds great no matter where you do it!

  • @n8dawg85
    @n8dawg85 5 років тому +1

    Hi Pete! Great demo. How useful are the custom panel controls in a real world situation? (especially if wanting to use this live & direct w/ an IR pedal) i’m deciding whether i really need the added features or not. Thanks!

  • @markhamstra5473
    @markhamstra5473 6 років тому

    Less negative feedback will actually tend to make an amp more responsive to changes in pick attack, etc. The change will be more progressive, though, whereas with more NFB there won't be much difference within a range of intensities, and then it will more abruptly go into heavier distortion once a threshold is crossed.

  • @dougrettberg7986
    @dougrettberg7986 6 років тому +1

    How would you compare the Revival drive to the Suhr Eclipse ?

  • @Doty6String
    @Doty6String 5 років тому

    Impressive

  • @MrPerfectfeet
    @MrPerfectfeet 6 років тому +1

    No doubting this pedal is really incredible, (here comes the But) But using it Live could turn out to be a bit of a task, you don’t normally get hours to sound check, and all those knobs even if dialled in at home are prone to being moved during transport, however I’d have one for the studio, great demo as usual Pete T

  • @jr0706
    @jr0706 5 років тому

    So is the a preamp in the way Tech 21 has the character preamps?

  • @EverettDudgeon138
    @EverettDudgeon138 6 років тому +3

    How is it going direct into the board or into a cab simulator? I know a lot of the demos are showcasing how it can inject steroids into your amp. However, I almost always go direct with my guitar and wonder how it sounds on its own. I’m really debating between this and the Effectrode Blackbird.

  • @theamericanpatriotshow3993
    @theamericanpatriotshow3993 2 роки тому

    I haven't spent much time yet with it but I haven't had a tone get even close to a drive yet..

  • @tylerfitzgerald3429
    @tylerfitzgerald3429 5 років тому

    What's with the little white Christmas lights in the background? My daughter has those in her bedroom - she's 14.

  • @jorgiewtf
    @jorgiewtf 5 років тому

    Hey Pete, great video and awesome playing. I have a question and I think you’re very qualified to answer it: Bring it that I already own this pedal and I know it can get very close or even replicate many vintage & classic sounding amps, do you think it would be worth spending the money on some of UAD’s amazing classic amp plugins like the Plexi, Bluesbreaker and the Fender 55 tweed? I’m asking cause my new Apollo Twin MKII quad and the Two-notes cab M both arrive tomorrow. I also picked up that 3 UA plugins bundle for $399 which at one point I thought was crazy until I realized just how awesome they basically all are. Originally got them so I could get the Lexicon 480, the NEVE88 channel strip and the SSL bus compressor. The problem is that after hearing their amps I was amazed and my initial reaction was to get amp plugins instead but of the Origin Drive plus the CAB M can replicate those sounds, then I can go back to just opting for the mixing plugins I mentioned. Sorry for the long-winded comment I just wanna make sure I use my “3 wishes” wisely since they were so expensive. Thank you for the great video again!

  • @MrDavemiley
    @MrDavemiley 6 років тому +1

    Very nice "Cranked" tones. If it can do some thick more saturated tones as well , I would want one,. Darn near wroth just for the Cranked tones alone ! Sounds killer in the gain rage Pete had it dialed in for however, I would have liked to hear how much gain it has on tap. If it does High Gain well as it sounds on basic gain, one would not need anything else !

  • @chadlove3443
    @chadlove3443 4 роки тому

    The JMP has more life. How is this pedal compared to the AX8? Does it feel better to use?

  • @JasonMcFly
    @JasonMcFly 5 років тому +1

    Genuine holy sh*t moment when you did the tone match to the JMP. That was amazing!

  • @LPCustom3
    @LPCustom3 6 років тому +1

    Should I sell my Van Weelden "Royal Overdrive" to buy this? I realize that's subjective, but...

  • @LuisLopez-yl8mr
    @LuisLopez-yl8mr 6 років тому +1

    Hi Pete. Your reviews are awesome. One question for you or any person who has tried the pedal. Does it sound like a cranked amp at bedroom volume?

    • @jake-jk5rg
      @jake-jk5rg 6 років тому

      Hi Luis, sorry this is late ! I run it into a Laney L5 head clean, 0.5 watt setting to a 2 x 12 cab with 1 x Celestion V Type and 1x A type. I aim for 80-85 db to keep neighbours friendly and it sounds much like Pete's demo. I've tried lots of pedals and this really seems to be different at the kind of level I need, I sold a few other pedals as soon as I got it, it's that good. It's also good value compared to buying a low watt boutique amp which I was considering.

    • @LuisLopez-yl8mr
      @LuisLopez-yl8mr 6 років тому

      jake Excellent!!! Thanks.

  • @FangPaw
    @FangPaw 6 років тому +4

    Wow! That's sooo impressive (so is the pedal). But - does it clean up from the guitar the way a real on-MV valve amp would?

    • @ianthomas9602
      @ianthomas9602 6 років тому +1

      FangPaw yes it will, watch the origin video and he will show you!

    • @FangPaw
      @FangPaw 6 років тому +1

      Ian Thomas - you're right (I watched all the vids). Thanks for that. It really is an amazing piece of kit.

  • @robertj1303
    @robertj1303 6 років тому +1

    Without midi this pedal could be a tweakers dream or nightmare. Simon doesnt do Digital though! I like what he has done in capturing all his Allman brother amp tones. I guess you have to have a fairly decent amp to use this beast on. It is the price of a Marshall Origin 50 so I think it is for people who understand amps to the nth degree. Two many switches, its kinda of the opposite UI wise to the Helix! For me its going to be for those people who have money to burn! Great demo Pete, but as you say you have to watch Origin video and my eyes glazed over pretty quick!

  • @blastofo
    @blastofo 2 роки тому

    Any stompbox with that many knobs HAS to be good!

  • @lachlan1971
    @lachlan1971 Рік тому

    Had a look at this today, very impressed, but no way I could afford it.

    • @Utubewrk123
      @Utubewrk123 Рік тому

      Well I was selling this very one for $400 free shipping. I’m tired of people staring at it for weeks. I’m losing a ton of money on it. I hooked it up to my quad cortex and my amps. Tried it again. I’ll keep it. Reverb is just getting so slow re selling stuff. Especially, at appropriate prices.

  • @phenixreturns
    @phenixreturns 3 роки тому

    i have a tube zone overdrive best pedal ever with blackstar ht and jackhammer

  • @warp9988
    @warp9988 6 років тому +23

    Pedal has foot pedal

  • @mickenilsson
    @mickenilsson 6 років тому +2

    Silly cone.... 😇 Sorry man. Just had to write it down... Love your stuff 😁❤️

  • @Neil-Aspinall
    @Neil-Aspinall 6 років тому

    I can rest easy now as I was a bit worried that there hadn't been another OD pedal released within the last 3 hours! Good thing is they are nice and cheap at around $700 US. WTF!

  • @RoelCyborg
    @RoelCyborg 6 років тому

    529 $ and the custom version 649 $ i wonder if its analog or if it is like a loaded thing with some stems ,, like a Kamper ? or the FX one ?

  • @myaudiodna
    @myaudiodna 6 років тому

    Hey Pete, I LOVE the color of that guitar, but I don't see that color available on your sig model on the Suhr site. How can I get one in that color?

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  6 років тому

      +Keith Frey that’s odd, I’ll look into it. It is a new color we introduced this year-available now, you can order it

  • @jonnystuart4940
    @jonnystuart4940 6 років тому

    sounds great...how is the stereo widening being achieved? Makes a big difference than as a pure mono demo...and perhaps just a little hyped, for lack of a better term.

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  6 років тому

      +Jonny Stuart which part? Solos I usually add echo. Rhythm gits have a bit of verb and room mics from the ox. The Marshall/Revival section is just mono mic’d cab.

    • @jonnystuart4940
      @jonnystuart4940 6 років тому

      I was referring to when you started switching between just the amp and then adding the Revival Drive, e.g. @ 8:48. I guess that's one of your rhythm tracks from the song. It sounds quite good--just seemed the stereo seemed m much wider once the drive kicked in (compared to just amp) but maybe that's just the effect of hotter signal. Just curious.
      BTW: you say Silicon(e) the way many people I know say it. :)

  • @frankardos4211
    @frankardos4211 6 років тому +1

    I bet this pedal would be amazing with a good wah as you experiment with the ghost notes function. Thx Pete!

  • @chrisdaviesguitar
    @chrisdaviesguitar 6 років тому +2

    sounds awesome but am afraid to ask how much it costs lol. Bound to be silly money.

  • @Elido
    @Elido 6 років тому

    Pete, I gotta think that if you found yourself a singer like Scott Weiland (Minus the drugs) you would blue everyone's even more. I am always eager to hear your material. You ever think of linking up with a singer?

  • @glashay
    @glashay 5 років тому

    Is it just me or was the pedal solid state amp just a little bit better than the 71marshall? I'm just saying...

  • @nickg2431
    @nickg2431 3 роки тому

    Great demo,great playing but those amps will sound good with the cheapest pedals.Some of the controls would be redundant with amps here for example the rectifier control which is much more important with a power amp.It is versatile though and if this is your main sound generator its actually fairly cheap...

  • @Daddytang67
    @Daddytang67 6 років тому +1

    Would this work into a axe fx II and just use the axe cab. It’s often very difficult to dial this sound into the axe.

    • @jackleyton5504
      @jackleyton5504 6 років тому

      It works with the kemper so it should also with the AXE

    • @simonpierce9983
      @simonpierce9983 6 років тому

      fuck im so glad i dont use those things anymore...i remember being in your world.
      sorry not talking shit. I just had flashbacks when i read your comment. to each his own!

  • @jsalmons84
    @jsalmons84 6 років тому

    Fuck that is huge!

  • @phenixreturns
    @phenixreturns 3 роки тому

    rock ezx !! toontrack

  • @cyanidejunkie
    @cyanidejunkie 6 років тому +1

    Awww, Pete. Hope you didn’t miss ‘Tone Talk’ with M.J. From Seymour Duncan!

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  6 років тому +1

      +cyanidejunkie I did! Dammit!

  • @jorgiewtf
    @jorgiewtf 5 років тому

    Hey man, I just ordered the custom version of this pedal. I have a question; would you recommend a tube-screamer or some kind of boost before the actual pedal? Thank you!

    • @keithremedy
      @keithremedy 3 роки тому

      Either one I use a zen drive and a ts10 with this thing and it’s amazing. This pedal is the most dynamic pedal I’ve ever used and I been a pedal addict forever. It even adds some juice to my Two Rock.

    • @JDAfrica
      @JDAfrica 3 роки тому

      Can the Revival Drive do low gain, slow hand blues / John Mayer tones? I have a few other pedals (KOT, original Bluesbreaker, The Dude), that I would want to use with the origin Revival Drive

  • @stanesposito2664
    @stanesposito2664 6 років тому +5

    This a great sounding pedal, but at $649 U.S. It's out of reach for the average weekend warriors to spend on an overdrive. I guess if you bought a cheap amp that has a good clean sound you could use it for your gains.

  • @brpadington
    @brpadington 6 років тому +1

    Can this thing get into modded JCM800 territory for a thrash sound?

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  6 років тому +1

      I wouldn't say so but if you hit it with a SD1 maybe...? would be pretty killer

    • @brpadington
      @brpadington 6 років тому +1

      Pete Thorn It absolutely nails the plexi sound. At the very least it would sound like a plexi with an sd1 which isn't a bad sound.

  • @silverstone3228
    @silverstone3228 6 років тому +7

    Ahhhhh pete thank god I found youuu, youtube took me to its weird side for a week where asians cook puffer fish and indians do asmr massage and all this because i pressed on an owl video out of curiosity , suggested videos got fucked i am glad to see uuu again

    • @PeteThorn
      @PeteThorn  6 років тому +2

      +silver lol

    • @danielhoskins4690
      @danielhoskins4690 6 років тому

      Haha! At least it wasn’t the flat-earth rabbit-hole! Guitar demos are the only videos I can bare to look at the comments section on.
      Good luck out there...