Rise and Fall of Numenor | Silmarillion

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  • @pizzadohpaz
    @pizzadohpaz 3 роки тому +51

    Thanks so much for uploading this! The "full" audiobook on UA-cam stops right around where this one begins for some reason...

    • @robertpadfield1895
      @robertpadfield1895 3 роки тому +8

      Because this isn’t the Silmarillion, it has nothing to do with the silmarils but was included in the book as an extra tale because it followed on from the account of the silmarils. The Silmarillion had a definite ending when the jewels found their long homes. This is the account of numenor and its fall.
      Hope that helps

    • @pizzadohpaz
      @pizzadohpaz 3 роки тому +2

      @@robertpadfield1895 I mean, I get that, but it is in the book so it still surprised me that it wasn't included in the audiobook

    • @robertpadfield1895
      @robertpadfield1895 3 роки тому +1

      @@pizzadohpaz a Tolkien purist who was looking for a reason to slice it down to a mere 12 hours?, a bit like cutting the appendices out of the lord of the rings, I was a little disappointed too but also quite like being able to jump straight in at numenor
      I think someone should do a complete audiobook of Tolkien from start to finish, all in order and including all the appendices, but I’m just glad it’s all out there and on the whole, not riddled with ads

    • @pizzadohpaz
      @pizzadohpaz 3 роки тому +2

      @@robertpadfield1895 now that would be something to behold! A week-long audiobook!

    • @kahekilimaui450
      @kahekilimaui450 3 роки тому +2

      @@pizzadohpaz
      That would be an astoundingly awesome audio!
      Though, At the speed of recitation, in full performance mode as this is, I think it may well be a great deal longer than a week from start to finish.
      😉👍

  • @billthorn1604
    @billthorn1604 3 роки тому +78

    “The love of Arda was set in your hearts by Eru Illuvatar, and He does not plant to no purpose”

    • @kawekalee9737
      @kawekalee9737 2 роки тому +7

      Such beautiful words

    • @Astroviking_
      @Astroviking_ 2 роки тому +13

      I prefer The Gift of Men, Eru Iluvatar gave the best gift to men such a gift that even Elves became jealous, while Elves are bound to Arda, Men are not bound to it, so when Men die after the end of the World, Men will be with Eru Iluvatar for ever!

    • @kawekalee9737
      @kawekalee9737 2 роки тому +5

      @@Astroviking_ thats the great misunderstanding, Eru has and has always been with men

    • @Astroviking_
      @Astroviking_ 2 роки тому +3

      @@kawekalee9737 true but I meant closer to him as in a physical way!

    • @glvbjr
      @glvbjr Рік тому

      ​@@kawekalee9737 lollol

  • @Robot.Palmtree
    @Robot.Palmtree 6 днів тому

    This is MARTIN SHAW, best voice actor with flawless pronunciation and excellent inflection. Just FYI, y'all🙂

  • @potita24
    @potita24 2 роки тому +7

    Imagine a real good movie about this with Eonwe among the edain

  • @nickster_xd8937
    @nickster_xd8937 Рік тому +2

    In the edition I’m reading, this starts at the bottom of page 310. Hope this helps anyone else.

  • @someguy4405
    @someguy4405 2 роки тому +16

    “God not real.”
    -Sauron, whilst wearing a fedora

  • @BossAttack
    @BossAttack 2 роки тому +10

    I can safely say that if I were a Numenorean while Sauron was there, I would've 100% fell for his manipulations. Dude was just spitting straight logic that fed on the inner desires of all men, the desire to live forever.

    • @davidhimmelfahrt3732
      @davidhimmelfahrt3732 2 роки тому

      You probably do in real life too. But I am not sure, if you are aware of the fact, that there are forces in the world such as Sauron, that really exist and effect the destiny of mankind.

    • @thewingedringer
      @thewingedringer Рік тому

      But it's not so much about Sauron. It is that Sauron had the One Ring with him while he was there.

    • @Blackstar-yd3yf
      @Blackstar-yd3yf 7 місяців тому

      Especially since the elf's are so smug about their immortality reminding humans all the time that they are like fruit fly's in their eyes who die so fast 😂

  • @sit-insforsithis1568
    @sit-insforsithis1568 3 роки тому +9

    I love númenor ! Great vid

    • @kawekalee9737
      @kawekalee9737 2 роки тому +2

      I love the entire story but Idve been on one of the ships of The Faithful....

    • @robertmeadows7242
      @robertmeadows7242 2 роки тому

      Numenor was great. A great screw up of what great men could have been. It represents our vanity and mortality. Something that I guarantee you and I both contend with. It was intended for greatness but descended into something worse than any orc could ever imagine. You should not love Numenor.

    • @robertmeadows7242
      @robertmeadows7242 2 роки тому

      @@kawekalee9737 I hope so.

  • @paulgalligan1916
    @paulgalligan1916 2 роки тому +2

    Splendid 👏

  • @spacejunk2186
    @spacejunk2186 2 роки тому +9

    I find it super interesting that this tale, which was clearly written after the Island was sunk, refers to the Numenorians as "Kings among Men." Why would it describe the people who were, according to this text, opposed to the evil Numenor and wiser with such an authoritative title?
    Were the Elf friends maybe not so clear of the 'evil' Imperial and 'we are better than anyone else' mindset that brought the doom to the Island as they liked to believe? It says Amadil and Ar-Pharazon were friends at first, and all things hint that they grew close during the "numerous wars" in Middle earth. Or was the true meaning lost through the translation from Quenya to Westron to English?
    It's also funny that this text refers to Valinor as a realm that was untouched by evil. We know that this is not true at all.

    • @robertmeadows7242
      @robertmeadows7242 2 роки тому

      Brr de der drrrr

    • @robertmeadows7242
      @robertmeadows7242 2 роки тому +1

      You seem like the type of person who farts in the bathtub and eats the bubble. You scratch at shit and chews your fingernails. What the sweet damn are you getting at here? I e already gouged my eyes out after reading this and am purely typing out of muscle memory...fuck.

    • @prinssi-kanava5441
      @prinssi-kanava5441 2 роки тому +3

      If you are a human, but live for three centuries, are terribly wise and as strong as ten men put together and all that was given to you bi literal angels to honour your ancestors wars against Satan, pretty sure they son't really deserve the title, they are the Kings of Men.

    • @muttleyjones2
      @muttleyjones2 2 роки тому

      @@robertmeadows7242 I know right! Do you think he drives a Prius, lmao.

  • @LifeofHum
    @LifeofHum Рік тому

    Beautiful ❤

  • @paulgalligan1916
    @paulgalligan1916 2 роки тому +2

    Of which now all is told

  • @stevenburriss6804
    @stevenburriss6804 3 роки тому +3

    Love it

  • @lalalisa7501
    @lalalisa7501 3 роки тому +2

    please create the The book of lost tale 1 and 2 pleaseeee

    • @DanIel-fl1vc
      @DanIel-fl1vc  3 роки тому +2

      You can listen to them here:
      archive.org/details/TBOLT1-Audio/01.mp3
      goldenaudiobooks.com/j-r-r-tolkien-book-lost-tales-p2-audiobook/

  • @josephjagusah8668
    @josephjagusah8668 2 роки тому +1

    Just for reference, I bridge this is the Akalabeth, not the silmarillion per se but a story contained in the published silmarillion, like the Ainulindale/Valaquenta.

  • @elagabalusrex390
    @elagabalusrex390 Рік тому

    Why is Minas Tirith on the cover pic for a video about Numenor? Minas Tirith wasn't even founded until after Numenor was destroyed. Very misleading.

    • @Not-Ap
      @Not-Ap Місяць тому

      Because it's a pretty piece of art and was built by the Numenorians. So it representative of the island. This account of the fall is being told by Elendil and so it's makes sense to have the city built by his son be the backdrop.
      Think of it as if the tale is being told by an old Dunedain person to their little grandchildren living in pelenor fields in sight of the city. Imagine yourself as the child staring up at the city realizing your looking a piece a history far older and grander than you. This is the city where heirs of Elendil came to rule established by the very people being talked about in the tale your Grandparents are telling you about. This is Gondors and Arnors Arthurian Myth and bedtime story probably at this point. Hope that helps! 🙃

  • @tombelt9011
    @tombelt9011 3 роки тому +1

    Could I get a precise source for this? Thanks.

    • @DanIel-fl1vc
      @DanIel-fl1vc  3 роки тому +2

      The page would differ depending on the format of the book. But it's right after the war of wrath when they're given the island.

    • @tombelt9011
      @tombelt9011 3 роки тому

      @@DanIel-fl1vc Akallabeth, then, a few pages in. Thanks.

    • @robertmeadows7242
      @robertmeadows7242 2 роки тому +1

      *turns off your life support*

    • @travtuck7646
      @travtuck7646 2 роки тому

      Robert Meadows as an avid troll myself I marvel at your tom-foolery. Well done!

  • @oguardiaodosaber
    @oguardiaodosaber 3 роки тому +1

    THANKZ SIR!

  • @silentservant_
    @silentservant_ 10 місяців тому

    It hurts to know how evil can be so depraved. Hope is in the return of our King. King Jesus

  • @alanpettus9627
    @alanpettus9627 3 роки тому +2

    Sounds amazing

  • @potita24
    @potita24 2 роки тому

    Where is the previous part?

    • @DanIel-fl1vc
      @DanIel-fl1vc  2 роки тому

      This is an excerpt from the Silmarillion, not the entire book. The entire book is here:
      www.amazon.com/The-Silmarillion-J-R-R-Tolkien-audiobook/dp/B016N9U37Q

    • @potita24
      @potita24 2 роки тому

      @@DanIel-fl1vc: thanks!

    • @robertmeadows7242
      @robertmeadows7242 2 роки тому

      The previous part is you shutting the fuck up ... Previously I mean.

  • @bennylindqvist3433
    @bennylindqvist3433 Рік тому

    hmm why does this reminds me of something....

  • @christinao1528
    @christinao1528 3 роки тому +2

    35:44

  • @charlesshaw9919
    @charlesshaw9919 3 роки тому +2

    Elebreth. Tunuviel umdomniel gil oroduin tar naphidil el galiad narvo phar khaza dim

  • @justincase1228
    @justincase1228 2 роки тому +3

    The whole series of the rings of power explained in 1 hour without all the woke improv. Thank you!

  • @nonplayercharacter596
    @nonplayercharacter596 Рік тому +1

    THE SEA IS ALWAYS RIGHT
    😂😂😂😂

  • @js1817
    @js1817 2 роки тому +1

    He's so bad at pronouncing the names.

    • @pfunk420d
      @pfunk420d 2 роки тому

      (boston accent) "its quata!!! not quarter!"

    • @potita24
      @potita24 2 роки тому

      He is wonderful