Rare Twin Engine Tractor | Will It Run With Missing Piston?! | Allis Chalmers Model B | RESTORED
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2022
- Join in with the Restored Crew as they attempt to revive some life back into this rare twin engine Allis Chalmers Model B tractor. Without knowing the fate of these engines, the guys take a leap of faith and dig in and diagnose what it will take to get these ol' girls running. While working on a deadline, the team fights against locked-up parts and are forced to take some drastic measures. Will the guys be able to get either of these engines back up and running, or was this thing built for some cool yard art?
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I had a 48 AC to clear land-mow-and plow.
Couldn’t get parts so the water pump dripped and the main seal leaked like a battleship!!😀The generator wouldn’t gen and the carburetor wouldn’t carb but she would run all day with no complaints!!
It was a total loss magneta ignition.
Charge the battery overnight!!😑
PS: I saw a video of a 283 V8 running on one bank of cylinders!!😮
(For demonstration purposes only!!)
NO pistons in one side!!🤔
You guys have a LOT of patience!!👏🏻👏🏻
@@ludicrous7044 you should drain the oil in the one that you had running while it was still hot and see what you got in there for water
You should have drain the oil in that one that was running so that you could get all the crap out of the oil pan especially if it might have water in it
Paul the starter and put a bar on the ring gear that way you could rock it back and forth the ring gear that is
@@ludicrous7044 Wow, how cool!! I had a A also. Loved that machine so much. The smell, the sound, everything about it. Well actually the one thing I didn't like is that it didn't have a 3 point. I forget what year it was but it was a hand crank with no starter so probably an earlier model than yours.
The carb got plugged up on it really bad so the old man down the street who knew tractors like the back of his hand got a sock, a rubber band and an old gas tank off of a lawnmower. He took off the carb and rubber banded the sock instead then bailing wired the gas tank on top of the shroud and ran the hose to drip onto the sock. I never would have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself but it ran BETTER that way than with the crappy old carb!!
We slung a blade under it halfway between front tires and back and turned it into a mini road grader. It worked amazingly well and we maintained our road and our neighbors road with it for years. Man, those were good times.
U know what bro U have an AWESOME Father I mean as an older guy myself u just don’t see fathers like that anymore so you make sure you tell your Dad you Live him because as God is my witness he is truly one of the great ones and as a Black Male I take my hat off to him he sure as heck has ALL MY RESPECT and that’s for sure!!
And what a good impact he’s making on his sons life. Bravo, we all can try to do better. They live by example
Well said Kevin
Candy asses the replies are
But what does being Black have to do with anything? When I give someone a compliment, I don't include "as a White Male". If I did you'd probably be calling me a white racist bastard.
Guys, as I watched this video I so wish that I could have picked up the phone and called you. I spent most of my childhood and half of my adult life working on some of those old A/C s. My granddad had one and I had that same model B and a D-10 also. Those are some tough old engines. So proud that you kept working on it till you got them both runnng. May God Continue to Richly Bless You and Yours Forever.
I did a radical pistonectomy on a 1960 Dodge 361 V8 Station Wagon, cut the connecting rod bearing crank-end off and bolted the bearing back on to the crank to stop oil from bleeding off, and pulled the pushrods out like you did, then ran the car for a year before giving it to my sister. She drove it for another year before getting a better car. The thing ran good , but had a weird vibration due to an obvious balance issue, but it worked. Glad you brought this one back to life.
You guys will tackle anything and come out on top. Most people would give up 1/4 way through what you take on. Love your never quit work ethic and that just shows what one can accomplish if one never gives up or gives in to an obstacle. God bless.
I love seeing old farm equipment such as tractors being rescued and brought back to life again. ❤
That camera girl did an awesome job filming. Well done! The guys figured it out too! You’ve got a piece of history!
Outstanding video, you fought it every step of the way. Excellent camera work to go with your knowledge of getting it running and not giving up. Your family just works so well together.
Gotta love the "We will make it do something" attitude. The exhaust flapper is missing from the stuck side, probably got water in the cylinders. Each steering wheel for each front wheel would be a lesson in cooperation for sure.
Neat tractor(s). I have a '51 A-C B that was my Dad's. Cylinders 2 and 3 rusted from sitting in the humid basement of a barn. I was able to free them up with Evaporust and never took the pistons out. That was about 4 years ago and use it regularly now. It still runs great with decent compression and doesn't burn oil.
What a great episode!! I was rooting for you both. I was praying y’all get it going. So glad y’all didn’t give up on the old girl. Blessings Y’all!!!!
Nice job guys
I remember seeing years ago a old timer with a Allis Chalmers where he used the front piston as a air pump for blowing down barns before he would spray white wash on the old barn beams. That tractor he had was setup with a stck welder also. Now I can see how this was possible. Keep up the great videos
An engine is basically an air pump with
fuel/timed spark/and compression.
Again, your persistence paid off! Great job and video! Thank you all!
To seeing this video, giving me a huge grin the whole time. I would love to see Don's whole collection and hear his old stories. And I really appreciate all the honest work, you put into your projects.
The tought that even the worsest things could be fixed, as you showing all the time, blesses my heart and giving me strength and faith. God bless you guys
I love seeing you guys work on stuff like this been following the channel a couple years now just never commented. Nice to see you growing strong! Keep going boys
Growing up in a very rural part of south Milwaukee County, near West Allis where Allis Chalmers were made I found this to be very interesting. my growing up was also in the farm tractor business with my dad. We sold & serviced Massey Ferguson & Oliver tractors but had LOTS of customers who had Allis tractors as well. This twin engine model B would be a real hoot to see how it was designed & put together.
Tractors needed more power those days I saw other Tractors put together also. I pulled my Dad on his tractor with a chain and an old tire so he could plow the pasture
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Awesome project , brought back a lot of memories for me with my father back on the farm . thank you for that .
Great camera work and editing as well. Awesome looking tractor . I’ve never seen any other tractors like this one
Outstanding! Never say die...that's what I love about you guys! Keep up the great work! Great camera work too!
You and your dad did an amazing job getting that tractor running Many blessings to your family and much love from Portland Indiana have a blessed week till next time
Miracles come in all shapes and sizes. I know because you guys have pulled off more than a few. Awesome video. You guys are the best.
This one is a classic, seeing you guys dig in and not give up is a good testimony to hard work and faith. Keep it up! And thanks for the great video work!
Wow - nice job! Would have never thought that would work ... Loved it!
Well, y'all hooked me some time ago on working on old cars - I'm still working on the '57 CJ-5 I got back in January - your episode on the CJ-3 helped me there. Now here you are on an A-C tractor. Before I discovered Turning Rust, I was restoring a '51 Farmall Cub and a '51 Farmall H, so this is like old home week! Awesome! I love it. I think I'm going to have to have one of your T-shirts!
The amount of respect you gave that gentleman is something you don’t see anymore!
You bought 2 Cool Looking Tractors ! Both Double Engines are now running - thats sooooo Great indeed - You done a Brilliant Job - well done indeed ! You not only Rescued it - You made it Run and Run it does - both Engine ! Man - we loved this long Video very much and again - Congrats ! Many Cheers from us in Australia
What fun to get to hang out and work with your dad like this. Towards the end when you were beating on those pistons, I was hollering “try the clutch method again!”
I can't even begin to say how darn cool that was to watch, especially since I own a "B" model that has been in the family since I was about 7 years old...wow that was 58 years ago. I guess I need to get it off the dollies it's sitting on and get it running again. Thanks for the video and the effort you and your dad put into it.
most unique tractor I've ever seen, very enjoyable watch fellas, great work and thank you for the content! God bless
Great work guys that's wicked cool!! You always do the coolest stuff !! Look forward to seeing it with all 4 pistons in engine 2 and it running sweet 😁
My uncle took one of these B Allis tractors and reversed the gears, added hydraulic controlled steering, attached a boom and made a rear drive forklift out of it! These old tractors are hard to kill and hard to beat as you found out making this video. His is like the first one you worked on, easy and fast to start, and always reliable! I would like to see you guys start that WC Allis! I was bitten by the classic car bug and also caught classic tractor fever! Thanks for what you guys do, and keep up the good work!
That was so cool to see both motors running together.
There is nothing better than seeing rare and unique treasures like this be saved and up and ready to do what they were made to do ..great vid godless and stay ⁴safe
Nice work guys! Good to see the tractor (or tractors?) up and running again! Just make sure to cover the exhaust on the engine that was seized, either with an official rain cap, or a metal can in a pinch.
Thats justamazing!!!!! Well done,I really don't know how many would have tried that hard. God Bless......
Yes. I am really glad both motors run. You all have a really great tracker. God bless you all. Now please go have some fun with it.
Can't believe I watched the whole thing as I was rooting the whole time!, even my wife looked at me a few times wondering what was going on! Great job folks!
WHOA!!! That bus reminds me of the one from the James Bond movie: Live and Let Die...
You guys are going the distance to get that engine running !!!! AND YOU DID !!!! I DO see the flapper is missing on the right engine exhaust....
AMERICAN DEDICATION !!!
GREAT JOB !!!!!!
IIRC, the 'James Bond' bus was an AEC RT type (which predated the Routemaster). It would probably have been built in north London for London Transport and then sold on. By contrast the Bristol Lowdekka was produced by the Bristol company, which was an 'independent' in contrast to the London Transport contractors. The Lowdekka version was produced for routes with low bridges; in some cases the aisle on the upper deck was offset to one side, stepped down from the rest of the floor.
For the purpose of the film, the roof was cut off and then refitted so that the bridge would decapitate the bus in a suitably dramatic fashion. It is still not uncommon for a similar thing to happen, although not intended!
According to Google the bus was operated by Hampshire and Dorset Motor Services. I am interested to know how easily the bus can be used on American roads - many years ago I saw a TV report that said New York City had banned them because the overhead traffic lights were too low. We have similar lights in the UK, more often on fast rural roads to give the drivers more warning, but they are high enough for double deckers to pass under.
Everything about that beastie looks strange but the two seats and steering wheels just look so odd. Watching the two of you, side by side on a tractor, and both "driving" brought a smile to my face. Hope to see more of these tractors, once you figure out how they work. I've got a funny feeling there more be farther headaches before you're done though. It would help if you even knew how they're 𝒎𝒆𝒂𝒏𝒕 to work.😂👍
Good work guys!! I really enjoyed this, thanks for posting.
As a possible interesting aside for what it's worth...
We had an old generator that was frozen up really bad. After doing what you guys did, pounding on the cylinders until we were blue in the face and we gave up, my cousin put Marvel Mystery Oil in the cylinders and then just covered them with a tarp (which the Marvel ate up so don't do that, set the head back on it). We got back to it maybe 9 or 10 months later and it freed right up with no trouble at all. I don't know how long it would take but less than 10 months for sure. My cousin said that he had done it before and freed up a locked up engine on an old Willy's jeep in just a month.
Awesome episode you all!! Never thought that second engine had a chance of running looking forward to the final repair!!
You guys just dont quit Thanks for all the hard work and great content Fantastic camera and editing God Bless
Awesome job fellas! Some good camera work too young lady!
I love watching you lance and whyatt. You are wonderful people. It's very refreshing to hear people that love God. Bless you and your family ❤️
persistence pays off...and always help from above! love that. never give up...
What a neat tractor. I can’t believe you got that second engine going. My grandpa was a blacksmith and I remember him hammering a lot, but no more than you did on that engine. Way to go!
At first, I was like "But they only used a rubber mallet on the head!" then I got to the last third of the video, haha
As an owner of a "C" version of one of these, I keep finding myself talking to the screen.. "noooo, that's not how that works" and "yes, that's the right way" Considering mine is also locked up probably worse than this one, it's fun to watch you try to free it up. I really enjoyed the post driver being used to try to get it loose. Also, from what I understand, they all crack between the cylinders. I figure mine will be when i remove the head. I plan to seal it with some goo and file it smooth and slap it back together with new sleeves and pistons. It's a 1940s farm tractor, not a super precision modern engine. It'll run well like that longer than you would ever imagine. Also, making it run on 3 out or 4? That's the exact kind of thing someone would have done back in the day because they needed it to get something done so that they could survive. Hope to see this one come back where you get that last cylinder fixed and going again.
The right motor looks as if it was the one to run the PTO. Was that what it was mainly for, or did it act like a spare tire, if the left bit the dust?
Pull the plugs and fill the pistons with deisel and let her sit it'll clean it up and lubricatie it
I was doing the same thing.
Don't seal the cracks, they're normal and have no effect. It's a wet-seal sleeve design, the cylinder head seals compression and passages, so that crack means nothing.
Don't bang on 'em to get the pistons out, just drop the pan, remove the caps, and push the piston/sleeve assembly out through the top. If the pistons and sleeves are worn past serviceable, grind a groove down the sleeve on each side, and whack the sides of the sleeve with a hammer, they'll fall off. Clean up, unbolt, and push out the wrist pins, and buy an in-frame rebuild kit, they include pistons, rings, sleeves, and sleeve O-rings. This engine rebuilds in-chassis in under 8 hours, no machining required.
Sitting in my lounge in Hereford, UK I am thoroughly enjoying the video of you two trying to get this extraordinary tractor going! I have never been to USA, and if it did become possible I would be thrilled to meet you both, and see your town rodeo! Keep the videos coming!
One of the best parts of your channel is that you guys do not give easily. Stuck engines chase you, and I can see it is very hard, but boy it makes for some great videos. Nice work!
I believe the starter is spinning so fast because someone did a 12 volt conversion but the starter is still the original 6 volt.
Definitely a 12v alternator on it
Yes it’s 6 volts you will burn up the coil pack and the mag
@@markcorbiere3314 judging by the alternator, it's been converted to 12v.
@@markcorbiere3314 put a ballast resistor for an 85 dodge v8 on it, or get an internally ballasted coil.
A magneto does not see battery voltage, it is self contained.
@@markcorbiere3314 The person doing the conversion to 12v was likely from the era when they knew enough to either install a 12 v coil or more likely a ballast resistor and a crank circuit bypass for easier starting. The magneto will have no connection to the battery electrical system so it won't be harmed. (it just has a grounding post to stop spark for shut down)
Im glad to see both engines running Realy glat to hear that your going to install the 4th piston.
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That would make a very cool parade tractor, especially if the drivers were identical twins.
Wow Restored you all had your hands full on this one.But with a blessing you got her mobile again! Great jobs Restored!!
Incredible work. One of the more entertaining revivals. You had the extremes in one machine, the first engine fired right up, the second was a nightmare, but you won in the end. Great work.
I helped restore a single cylinder Kelly-Lewis single cylinder tractor many years back. These were a copy of the German LANZ Bulldog tractor and run on waste oil that is preheated with a blowlamp under the fuel bulb. then you stick the steering wheel into the crank end and rock on it! Old farm equipment is fun to work on!
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Well done!!! It was great to see you stick to your guns and get the old gal running!
Started watching, stayed put all the way to the end! Most enjoyable evening I have had in years!
21:00 If you can start the left one then it should be able to turn the right one over.
39:20 By the it drags the right wheel, the right donk powers the right wheel and the left powers the left and the diff equalises the two.
57:55 This is you drop the block in the old electrolysis bath!
1:21:54 Fill those bores with jungle juice and knock off for the day.
End, Perseverance wins the day.
That was a HUGE win! Most people (including me) would have given up and took it to the machine shop. Very well done!
I wasn’t sure if I would be interested in an old tractor, but I again couldn’t stop watching the whole video. This was a true test of your will or the tractor and once again the family won.
It was so interesting to watch and Lance you talk things through with your Dad so understanding what’s going on is easy for your fans.
Great camera work and God was with you as always.
You guys never give up. Loved it.
Good sticking with it and not giving up. I always liked the father & son team. Makes me think of my Dad.
I found old pics online of that twin engine Allis Chalmers. It looked like it was new, and had fresh paint job on it. I bet if you buffed and polished that paint, it would come back good as new again.
Good job guys (and gal)! Only thing I would have done differently is yank the head off quicker and break the piston once I found it was that stuck. That engine has sleeves for the cylinders so those cracks may not be a problem.
Pretty much every old Allis block has those cracks, they're harmless.
Yeah, the cracks are irrelevant. Easier way (than wanging away with hammers), is just to push the piston and cylinder sleeve assembly up and out of the block, then warm the outside of the sleeve, wire brush the sleeve clean, drop it in a big ziplock bag half-full of oil (force the air out), drop it in ultrasonic cleaner for an hour, then lift it out, warm the sleeve a little, and push it out with an arbor press. In-chassis rebuild kits for the Allis B aren't expensive, one can drop in new sleeves, pistons, etc., in about an hour and have factory original tolerances with no fancy machine work.
Like you'r videos a lot. Keep up the good work. I owned a vw beetle that had one main bearing ceased up while on holiday. I took that one piston with con rod and push rod's out and wrapped a rubber tube around the crank shaft with a clamp to close up the oil port on that piston and drove 350 km back home with no problems at all except for a little vibration.
You guys are now running the first 7-piston tractor of the world ! Cool
You guys dont really have an idea what are you doing dont you? Im glad everything worked out fine ^^
If you removed the caps from all the connecting rods so you could turn the crankshaft out of the way, you might have found it easier to put a jack between the big end of the rod on the stuck piston and the floor then tried to push the rod up out of the bore from below.
Right - once the front piston broke loose I would have driven it upward and out of the cylinder so the cylinder could be cleaned
Once the caps are off, tapping on the bottom of the sleeve will release the piston and sleeve from the block, it will lift right out... the sleeve just sits in the block, with an O-ring at the bottom.
Great video you guys are fantastic and it is really nice to see a father and son get on so well together. Will it run videos are the best.
I would love to commend you for the curtesy you showed with the gentleman you bought the tractors from!!! You are an extremely rare person for your age group. If you were my son i too would be very proud of you! Please don’t loose that trait!!!
I think the heating with a torch method might have helped on this one.
Well that just way too cool!! Please do an update with the new piston and the engine running on all four. Also do you know who manufactured those engines? I don’t know if Allis Chalmers built their own engines or not!!
You would think that it wouldn’t be possible for both transmissions to work at the same time unless each was only connected to one wheel. In which case you ought to be able to get a lot more power out of that double tractor than a single.
I belive Lei roi Built engines for allis chalmers during the wd wd45 years
Buda, until Allis bought them out
@@WTank109 “Lei Roi”; as in ‘LeeRoy was here’?!?! 🤣🤣
@@whammond511 Not as far as I'm aware lol but my Engine In my wd is Made by Lei roi lol
When they were trying to bump start them, every time he dropped the clutch for the right engine, the right rear wheel skidded. Looks like each engine drives one rear wheel.
Great find, great video! It doesn't matter if the block is cracked in between the cylinders on this one guys. As You Both can tell, the block has wet sleeves. Pull the right engine, get it sleeved, put some new pistons, rings and bearing in it and run the hell out of it. She's got lots of life left in her for show-boating...
"My ax is dull". Good one dad! 🤣 Love y'all. God bless.
These were originally 6v, Pos. ground. This looks like it was converted to 12v, Neg. ground. I spins so fast because people generally just use the 6v starter without changing it which works fine as long as the engine doesn't need a lot of cranking to start.
If that cylinder had bent push rods to begin with you would expect the valves to have been closed and if that were so water should not have got into the combustion chamber and you would have a bit of a mystery on your hands.
Nice to have met you folks today at Canton. Puts a real face with people who you have only seen on UA-cam. People just as nice and kind in person as they are on their show. Keep up the great work!! Never realized Wyatt, you were such a short fellow. Lol….
It was a pleasure to meet you. We always enjoy meeting our fans and hearing about your projects and/or experiences. And I get a lot of comments about how much taller I am in person lol
I can see the old piston hanging on some bailing wire at the rear of this parade special.
What a fight but great results.
Thanks.
I feel like if you block off the intake on the bad piston it would start!! That's a massive intake leak.
Heat it.
That tractor is a fifties model as it has foot brake. Also those were 6 volt so that 12 volt battery spins it fast , but don’t crank it to long as you will burn up the starter. 100% home made
6 v starter is wound heaver than a 12v
@@jimrhoads9810 you still will burn it up
@@M_Phipps0520 i've done 12v on every tractor i have ever owned. you can burn up any starter if you you are that dumb.
It's a series-wound, not shunt-wound starter. This means that as the motor's armature speed increases, it's alternating frequency increases, and inductive reactance rises, limiting current. AC Delco starters for heavy duty trucks and equipment would do 6, 8,12, and 24 volts, and most of the time, they used the same windings, same brush clocking, etc., for all of them. The biggest difference, is the impact of the helical bendix as it jumps into the ring gear.
Any starter will burn up if cranked too long, they're not designed for anything other than very short intermittant duty... but fortunately, these engines were designed and intended to start easily by hand. My B's hand-start on three half-turns. IF the engine doesn't, there's something else wrong.
Well I never! Sure glad you guys didn't give up like I might have. After all those hours I didn't think you guys were gong to make any more headway, glad you proved me wrong. Those were some mighty tough pistons to take all that abuse! Ya got me hooked now, thanks for the great video and yes, I subscribed and I'll be watching more!
You guys are amazing. Congratulations!
My theory is that back in the day farmers didn't have much money so they used what they had. Farmer needed a more powerful tractor, so instead of buying one he built one.
They did. Side-by-siding an Allis B isn't a practical way of getting more power, as the ground-engaging horsepower here is not significantly higher- tractive effort is limited by tire diameter and applied weight on drive wheels. doing a secondary PTO concept doesn't help any, either. Farmers that needed more, would go to the next platform up- the WC (through '52) or the WD (53-'57)
That second engine was very solidly seized up, perseverance paid off. Now you have a 7 cylinder, two engine unique tractor. Great camera work. New subscriber from New Zealand.
This was one enjoyable video. Keep up the good work guys.
Believe it or not I googled the tractor and found another one similar to it so no it's not what a farmer came up with
it is a one of a kind built by don sullivan texas info from tony carbaugh enterprises and he has a few pics
It is not a 'factory' thing. It was done by an enthusiast. They do this, and other things, for fun.
@@davekamp6590 ya i posted who built it
PUT 45% VINEGAR IN THE CYLINDER AND LET SET 2 OR 3 DAYS. YOUR WORKING TOO HARD.
Afternoon boys, In high school my wood shop teacher had a 36 plymouth that ran on 5 cyl. He turnned down a hard wood plug the put brass shim stock around it and drove it in. Ran that way 30 yrs. Really enjoy your channel, glad you got iy goin.
i love old tractors that run forever
Y'all just got a new subscriber. Thank you for sharing. Gotta love the antiques.
Great vid guys awesome to watch
I would praise you both for not giving up on the three pot wonder
I did not believe I was going to see it running but you proved me wrong
Well done 🙏🙏😍😍👍👍
Love the precision craftsmanship. You guys are that bomb!
Great video glad you posted keep them coming thanks
Vary awesome indeed. Nice 👍 on getting the both running moving again. Sweet. Keep up the great work guys. Okay.
That is just to cool , would make a awesome parade tractor. You guys always find something unique and cool . 👍
That's really cool. 👍 Such an awesome piece of machinery.
I like old tractors so naturally your video got my attention. I was pleasantly surprised to find out you guys are in Bogata, Texas - a place I visited many times early in my working career back in the 1980s. It’s a nice little town and I have many fond memories and made a few friends along the way. Your Siamese Allis Chalmers is quite a head turner but it isn’t the first time I’ve seen something like it. I saw a two Farmall tractors put together on an episode of Classic Tractor Fever. The guy that owned it did all the work himself and it was quite impressive engineering.
Great one guys and awsome work, giving life back, never seen one before now😃❤🇳🇴
love the synchronised hammering !!!!!
An amazing ending to a amazing story and adventure for everyone to enjoy!