The 2024 Oscars Botched The In Memoriam Again
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- The In Memoriam at the 96th Oscars paid tribute to many beloved deceased entertainers, but as is so often the case, it wasn't without controversy over omissions, real and perceived.
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What do you think the Oscars can do to fix how they present their In Memoriam section?
They can stick to the respectful ways it has been before 8 years ago, or so
It's simple, IMO. Unlike the rest of the broadcast, where cameras appropriate focus on what's happening on-stage, In Memoriam should have no one at all on-stage, including no musicians, no dancers, no presenters. Feature each memorialized person's image as long as possible while keeping each moment relatively brief so as to fit in more people. It's about the dead and about the TV viewer, neither of which was served last night. Just atrocious.
The last several years they emphasized the singer and this year dancers more than the memory that the segment is dedicated. They are failing in the purpose of the feature. I’m glad that I am not the only one who has noticed this trend and feels this way.
If they put a list up, they should make it larger and have it stay up long enough for people to read it.
If the concern is the length of the production, they could use multiple screens to display passed on stars and contributors.
Burt Bacharach was partly responsible for one of the most memorable scenes in movie history in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. His music showed up in countless films.
When "In Memoriam", there shouldn’t be any dancers or anything else, maybe just the Signer(s), to take the attention away from the screen..
Since the Oscars died years ago they should have one for the show itself.
They botched it because they only focused on the dancers and not the people in the in memoriam, not because of who they forgot
Exactly!
Tacky af, these dancers and performers have absolutely no shame for going along with this. It's not your chance to get seen and catch your big break!!!! It's an In Memoriam
That mass "list" at the end was horrendous, but I could barely see even the names with the pics. 😡🤬
Ugh for real that made me facepalm the hardest for how disrespectful it was, like they spent all the budget on the pointless af dancers instead of putting together extra clips & images of the rest of the deceased on that list🤦♀️🙄
Great point!@@caratsomnia8110
Agreed. Whoever approved such a disrespectful format should apologize to the families of the deceased.
Totally agree 😕
It was the worst. Whose idea was it to use dancers anyway? STUPID! Then the camera was not focused on the screen with the faces and names of the deceased. I couldn’t even see who some of those people were. I can’t understand WHY they would do this. It has nothing to do with who they left out. We couldn’t see who they were.
Dance on my grave.
@@ericsilberstein667
You know that’s how it could have been seen by a lot of people. Very disrespectful.
Hollyweird suck
Yes the camera angle was crap. You couldn't see the people's names.
Shame on The Academy. They focused on the singers and dancers. That’s NOT what this segment is about. It’s to honor the memory of deceased people in the Industry.
You could hardly see the pictures of the people who passed away
COULDN'T SEE
I thought they blew it on the memoriam. They left out way to many stars and focused on the dancers. It wouldn't hurt to say their names.😮
They left out Will Smith's career
It was impossible to ignore the dancers and music and focus on the tiny screen of the people we really wanted to see.
Leaving out Norman Lear is unforgivable !
Wow. Paused the video in shock. Just forget the 1970s while you’re at it.
Omg, they did?!😱Inhad no idea. That's horrible!
He was included at the end.
A. He made no movies.
B. He was included in the list at the end.
I couldn't even read the names 😥
Yeah the Dancers were ridiculous ! Also Lance Reddick & Ray Stevenson should have been acknowledged way better !
Ray Who?
Have a separate mention for the dancers
@@nstix2009xitsnHe was in Thor movie as one of the warriors 3,did various roles and recently Disney Maldolorian series
I felt pissed off by the "In Memoriam" segment myself.
Must have a pretty boring life if this is what triggers you.
@@eileenmcdonald1599Pathetic you.
❤It’s a list that should be created ALL YEAR LONG ❤
TCM does the in memoriam at the end of each year. They know how to do a great in memoriam. Go watch those.
YES 👏🏻
Exactly, Not just The Oscars- The Emmys didn't even mention Jack Klugman of all people! But TCM always does a great job.
Really they did a terrible job in Memorium
Like most everyone, I hated the dancers and showing the singers. What REALLY got me was literally not seeing the faces and names. It was mostly a long shot of the theater and WAAAYY in the back is the middle screen and two side screens that one could not see the face nor read the name. For crying out loud, SHOW US WHO THESE PEOPLE WERE!
Ray Stevenson was the one I was most looking forward to be seen memorialised. Pity it wasn’t as big as the others
His role in ROME was and will always be stellar!
What
That is why I never watch the Oscars at all!!!!!!
Same. And Oppenheimer was a perfectly dreadful film.
They never learn from the past 😢😮
I know a lot of people didn't care for resident evil on Netflix but tou can't deny Mr Reddick's performance playing 4 characters can't believe its never mentioned
Why do only some of the In Memorium people get pictures? Specifically David McCallum. Mostly TV work for over 73 years, but did an excellent job in The Great Escape. Get rid of the song and dance crap, photos for everyone, and include everyone, not just a select few. Maybe cut down on the stupid opening 'entertainment' portion and just get on with it.
Very disappointed and distracted by the dancers could not read who was who
Also he was in A Night to Remember as one of the radio operators! I was shocked at his omission.
Years ago CBS' Sunday Morning devoted almost 15 minutes for an "In Memoriam" segment and they included anyone and everyone who should been remembered. The Oscars broadcast should have something like this after the end of the program or aired as a separate program. Also...it was mentioned that the "In Memoriam" segment was first done in the mid 1990s. I remember it being in the late 1970s. Elvis Presley was saved for last and he did a lot of movies!!!
How many years ago?
I was ticked off by the fact that they didn't mention Pete Kozachik, the Director of Photography on Tim Burton and Henry Selick's stop motion movies, including "The Nightmare Before Christmas".
You forgot Steve Lawrence. He died March 7, 2024. Alot of fans are outraged.
That list was made up way before it aired. I’m sure he will be added on next year… I mean, if he gets “voted” in 😒
Too late to make it to the list.
I@@JMK948
I'll accept that.
Too late now.
“Too late” is right.
One of the most tasteless omissions ever was years ago, Corey Haim: he gave his childhood to holllywood and stars in generation-defining films for those of us of a certain age. Whats more, he was famous enough to be recognised by every single person sitting in that auditorium. It was really unforgivable.
I must be losing it mentally. Corey Haim died? OMG ! How could I not know that ?!
Keep the In Memoriam segment pure and focus on those we’ve lost. You have plenty of opportunities for performance during the song nominees time. Spice them up but let’s make the memorial segment respectful again.
This has been the most frustrating segment of the Oscars for the past few years! I had to re-watch it on UA-cam the next day to see the actual honorees. They need to scrap the dancers & musicians, & go back to scrolling large pictures of the honorees with an appropriate song played in the background.
Dishonorable and Disgraceful to all who have died. Put the lights down. Forget the dancing and singing. Focus on ALL of those who have gone before us. SPEAK THEIR NAMES so they are NEVER FORGOTTEN. Shame on those who treated these creative souls with such a lack of RESPECT.
I missed the Oscar’s for the 64th year……oh well.
The first rule should be to include all Oscar winners and nominees. The name I was looking for was Don Murray, a Best Supporting Actor nominee for Bus Stop (1956) opposite Marilyn Monroe. He was an significant leading man in the late 50s and 60s. His last movie was in 2021.
So that’s what the first rule looks like.
It's absolutely INEXCUSABLE that the Oscars not only botch this so badly, but continue to do so year after year. At this point, it feels as though they're deliberately spitting in the faces of the people who sit through the telecast just to see this part. _"What, you don't like our unfunny monologues and boring dance numbers?? Well, here's your damn in memoriam!"_
David Soul was also left out.
He was more of a television actor.
Plus what's up with the list of names? Like anyone watching it can make them out! Damn that's cold 🤬
It was awful,too distracting. I could barely read the names! Lance will live on in my heart!
One of the many reasons why I do not watch the Oscars anymore - not respecting ALL the talented artists we lost in a year to make time to watch an act on the stage.
They traditionally always leave the most important to the last
Agree. This was the worst “in memoriam” yet. The camera was so far away that I could barely see the few pictures they showed. The dancers weren’t needed and although the singing was wonderful, we only need to see them start and finish. I want to see full photos, no three in one page and definitely no list of names that I can’t see to read the names. Where’s the respect to these late performers???
Yes the dancers and singers are distracting. The real reason this always sucks is the Academy decision to include an ever increasing list of people not even involved in film production. For every snub we witnessed, there is a matching advertising/distribution executive, agent, etc who takes their place. These are the guys that should go last in the "fine print"
The worst total omissions were Jim Brown, a big actor after football, and Helmut Berger star of the film "The Dammed".
The Academy must make the Memoriam a much BIGGER part of the Oscars. And dump all the crappy songs and music to make room for that Memoriam. I want to see those names spelled in large letters next to huge photos of each passed celebrity. (Meanwhile, I still have to look forward to seeing the holiday editions of magazines like People, who leave off their list virtually EVERY celeb who died in December.)
TCM always does a good job with it
I thought it was very moving. There will always be people missing, but this section recognizes a collection, an industry of artists as a whole, who are lost but not forgotten.
The best memorial was I believe when Jackie Gleason had passed and they played Streisands the way we were All of those celebrities were shown at the top of there game and the audience responded with applause and respect
It's only most appropriate and fitting tribute to mainly and largely focus on the names and faces of those being remembered in the 'In Memoriam', sans the singing and dancing. There's a lot of musical accompaniment possibilities---orchestral, symphonic, or just simple string, piano, harp violin or flute, that fittingly matches the solemnity and sacredness of this small but very significant segment. To commit the same mistakes of omission over the decades is unforgivable.
I always try and watch the in memoriam as I don't always hear who had died but it annoys me when they try to show us more of the singers or dancers than who they are honouring. I don't want to watch singing and dancing I want to see the display to see which wonderful entertainers we lost.
I echo many of the comments already posted. I was especially angry this year. The tributes are not about the performers, it’s about the people that were lost. The dancers really took away from where the focus should have been. Some of the names were hard to read. The dancers’ arms sometimes blocked the name. They had about 50 names at the end that were hard to read. They had gaps where they were not showing anybody at all. So potential snubs, there was time to include some of them. They need to take focus away from the musicians or singers. Maybe not even have a live performance, but recorded music.
I agree, there shouldn't be any kind of live entertainment during this segment of the broadcast.
This is just another reason why the Oscars are broken and irrelevant! The fact they cannot even get this right or the fact they tried turning it into a happy dance number is rather pathetic! And they wonder why viewership is dwindling by the year?
Thank you for reminding me about Bob Barker! He DEFINITELY deserved a mention!
Turner Classic really does a great tribute each year. It’s extensive but it rightfully memorizes the actor and their contribution to film.
There's no excuse for this! .. They have a freaking year to get this $hit right!🗣️💔
The people in charge of the broadcast will never change how it is done because in order for that to happen, they would have to dedicate more than one block of show to it. For lack of a better term, they dont want to oscars to be a "bummer" event. They could only add another memorial segment to the start of the show, but that would take away from the host monolog and they aint doing that.
All of them who passed away should be remembered no matter how small of a role they played in cinema or other venue’s ‼️
@deborahbaker4770
You forgot to leave an "/s" symbol. You were being sarcastic, no?
Completely doing away with Oscar recipients’ speeches would allow more time for pictures with names to be viewed on the video screen. In silence.
I feel the Oscar recipients should be able to accept the award. I feel that Jimmy Kimmel's dialog at the beginning,
on the other hand, could have been cut by more than half.
Not very bright are you. Do away with the stuff to those dead. They don't care.
Having the four acting awards presented by 5 people for each who gave speeches for each nominee took way too long and was totally unnecessary!
Every year I'd watch this segment and have a moment to some amazing people. I may not have known everyone, but I felt their importance. All you need is one screen, some clips, pictures and tasteful music playing. You do NOT need live performances, multiple screens, dancers, or anything else. It's a SOMBER moment and should have been treated as such. On a side not, who made it into the main part of the memoriam was so political it hurt. A sales agent, listed by a Director. Why would one sales agent have been so influential to cinema? Why do some managers get their name and face up on the screen? Politics. It's disgusting. Have a criteria, let it be known to the people, then hold yourself to your own criteria Oscars. The list of names at the end was like leaving two pennies as a tip. It's an insult that actors and other influential people like Ray Stevens or Sinead O'Connor were buried in a text block.
Grow up
The positioning of the camera…once again as in years previous….is up in the high seats looking down at a terrible angle at the stage and screen so one can’t see a clear picture of the industry people being remembered! The producers of the Oscars want to worry about getting in dancers and a little female orchestral group rather than a straight on shot of just the screen! C’mon Oscar Show producers, stop this insult to honoring the great talents who gave so much to our industry!
Last year they never mentioned David Warner.
This year was just awful how the ‘in memorium’ was presented.
It’s alright that some are omitted.
Problem is when a person who is still alive, is mentioned In Memoriam.
This year's list was shockingly short and left out so many people in comparison to previous years.
They turned the memorial into wallpaper for Andre and son, often the names too small to read. An even bigger shame was the way honorary Oscars were just photos on a wall. If you die or if you earn a lifetime award they Academy doesn't seem to really give a damn. TCM seems to do better "goodbye" segments each year than the Academy does.
Just look at BAFTA. Hannah Waddingham was incredible and the whole thing very respectful
Agree❤
The dancing was a horrible idea.the stage should not be shown at all.
I found it extremely hard to read who they were showing on the screen. I don't know some of the non-actors and in addition to the distractions they used a font/color that was hard to read from so far back. They really need to concentrate on the memorial and not the frills around it.
I actually slept through it, woke up halfway through the best actor award. Thought they might have decided not to do it because of all the criticism EVERY year.
The dancers blocked the pictures too..
Nope they didn't
Like a great many things, when it comes to a list like that, it's a popularity contest or even worse. Whoever gets to choose, will probably leave out those they didn't personally care for for whatever reason.
Despite its intention to pay homage to departed luminaries, the in memoriam segment of the 2024 Oscars once again fell short in capturing the full scope of loss within the entertainment industry.
Disrespectful, Disgraceful, an ego trip for someone at the Oscars. Who wants to see dancers/singers at such a time.
Agreed. It was an ego trip for somebody getting payback for a past favor of some kind. Dancers were completely unnecessary.
Oscars are meant for people in the creative process of motion pictures intended for exhibition in movie theaters. If an artist has had important presence in both, TV and movies then should be included in the Oscars In Memoriam section. TV stars who rarely appear in movies (example: Suzanne Sommers, whose only shinning movie moment was as a blonde with no name in American Graffiti) shouldn't. As simple as that. Those will have their moment during the Emmys.
I couldn’t see the honorees because they occupied only a small screen on my tv set. The rest were the dancers etc. Plus the honorees were grouped together instead of going one by one as in years past. I can understand that not everyone will be featured but adding in the dancing etc did not help.
How did you butcher Lances character in John Wick? Its not Sheronne it's Charon (Care-on)
They should stop with the music & dancing, focus on those we've lost & show them all no matter how long it takes, if you're worried about time cut some off the horrible Jimmy Kimmel
Great job identifying the notable deletions.
They used to show the big screen with the actor & so on who had past, why they had to change it for the worse.
They left out Ray Liotta and Burt Young. Maybe others as well.
Ray Liotta died in 2022. Why would he be on this year's list?
Burt Young was on the list in the last panel, right at the end.
@@nannie2846 thanks for the update. I thought he died last year. Great actor!
@inessebastiao3887 thanks for the info, I will look when I rewatch. Great actor!
Wrong. Ray died in 2022/ so he was mentioned in last years show
In past years it's being the same,I usted my cell and recorded the in memoriam and I usted the zoom for seeing the faces and the listo.
Paolo Taviani was a master director who wins Cannes and Venezia film festivals, he also has been left out of the screen. 😢
So
I couldn't even see it on screen.
They do it intentionally every year for the press afterwards. It's gross.
While the song was performed beautifully, it was not a good choice. All I could hear was Will Ferrell singing it at the Catalina Wine Mixer. I kept expecting someone to chime in with “boats and hos”.
Then you are the idiot
They have been “accidentally botching “ the Memormiam For a few years now and I personally thinks it’s because they want the focus to be on those present, instead of having the viewers think of those actors gone and maybe compare talent and realize so many today are mediocre and win for an agenda not for talent
Every year they manage to make this segment worse than the previous year's, this year must be a new record low, it's as if they do this on purpose and flatout refuse to listen to criticism. We don't want friggin' singers or dancers on stage for this one, play instrumental music for four minutes is that too much to ask for instead of this disrepectful behavior with in and out zooms. Are total morons in charge of this show, apparently. The departed artists are the important ones for this segment, nothing else. Perry and Turner's inclusion is a bit odd, TV actors usually aren't included and a singer, so many other famous actors ignored. And that tiny text of names at the end is the final insult.
They should flash them ALL on screen...ALL.
Lance in Fringe. 💜
Oscars viewers: the show is too damned long.
Also Oscars viewers: show the names and photos of everyone even peripherally connected to the film industry.
They missed off David Soul
No they didnt. He was never in any academy award movie
You couldn't even see the names at the end.
The dancers were a distraction
It was to much noise going on
too much going on.
The people in memorial talking. Andre and his son singing and the orchestra
They could have made time if they wanted to.
The time they wasted doing those lame jokes and having John Cena on stage wearing nothing they could have shown everyone like Lance, Susan, Tony Bennett, Bob Barker and etc.
Andre Bauer did plenty of movies like Glory with Denzel and Morgan Freeman.
One of my favorite is the one song "smile" last pic of Robin Williams and then followed by talk of Billy Crystal
He is one that makes me incredibly angry, sad and tear up. Just no rhyme or reason in this world why people have to suffer so. - but what a loss he was -not saying others aren’t - just that his illness, depression and death really got to me. 😢
When the Memorium began the cameras were not positioned close enough to the screen on the stage with the actors and names---It was way too hard to see them all and it was poorly presented---Leaving some actors who have passed was bad enough but the TV audience was too far out of the loop
They just flipped through too fast and it was like they didn't matter.
Sum total, the Academy doesn’t give a damn about this tribute, and the many others before it.
These are not awards to the dead. The dead don't care
@@eileenmcdonald1599 So why do the memoriam at all?
The Oscars & Hollywood in general are morally bankrupt and totally irrelevant.
Oscars leave out too many important people and this is just sloppy work.
Gosh, they missed A LOT of influencial and beloved entertainers.
I HATED it this year! I want to see who they are remembering! Not a collection of dancers doing some sort of insipid piece of choreography. Get back to basics, and spare us this artsy tripe!
I still haven't forgiven them for leaving out Shirley Temple years ago. 😠 😡
And, everyone is right. Screen only. No dancers, singers or musicians need be seen●
There will always be bitching from people. Can’t get it right for 100% of the people.
There should be focus only on the honourees, no need for any live action anything .
Many just like to complained
Instead of wasting time with deaths of technical staff people, they should use the little time they already had with people THE WORLD ACTUALLY care about, ACTORS, DIRECTORS...! Including beloved actors in a microscopic list AND NOT AT ALL, is OFFENSIVE to their memory! Instead of spending 10 minutes in lame jokes, use those 10 minutes to PROPERLY honor the dead, the unequivocal talent that has been lost!!
Those are who you care about but they care more about people they actually know like staff.
COLD
@@deborahgallegos5334 Yeah, I did not mean to sound like that... The list at the end should acknowledge those people, I did not mean to imply that their lives are worth less, because they sure are worthy to the movie industry as a whole! What I meant was that they could have acknowledge everyone had they given themselves enough time to do that! Without those people, movies aren't made for sure! I just wanted to get the point across that when you impose to yourself such small time to acknowledge the sadly departed, you need to focus on the most VISIBLE part of the industry, the actors and directors! My opinion is that this segment is done for the Academy itself, for the actors, producers, screenwriters who have known those people while filming motion pictures! We, the audience, don't know them, so all those faces and names do not ring any bells, but to the people in the audience and in the Academy who knew these people, yes, it makes perfect sense to include them! This is just another example of the disconnection between the Academy and the audiences!
What a stupid idea
I feel like they didn’t need the dancers or the singers. They just needed to focus on the people that passed away. They could have made this part longer so they could get everyone in the memoriam.
Screenwriter Herman Raucher also deserved a mention.