Wow. What an interesting video. As an INTJ I have been trying to develop my Fi and I couldn't work out why I did not resonate with boredom. You explain it really well. You are 100% INTJ!
My inner world is too interesting for me to get bored. If I foresee a boring situation, I escape to another room. If I can't escape it, I escape to my inner world and play there for hours if I need to. 😁
@@InternetLiJo tbh I’m bored around people I find everyone else boring even though they see it as fun. The thing is I’m sometimes an intj and other times I’m an isfp so I fall between the two I love to read between the lines, I’m a deep thinker but I also see everything as an opportunity for growth and I value freedom of expression. However I love to debate and try to be right
INTJ here - I am never bored when I can control what I do. But stuck in 4 hour school board meeting that should take 2, trapped listening to someone's inane stories, sitting in a 5 hour gymnastics meet just sucks the life out of me. Also, regarding this "learn to live in the present" notion - I rejected that long ago. Plenty of people live in the present / for the moment, we don't need more of them, they need more of us. I only look to the past if it will help inform the future and I occasionally check in on the present to make sure it is going the way I planned.
Yeah I've noticed I'm only bored when I'm listening to other people that are not saying anything substantial (which basically means I don't think the topic is interesting and I'm not interested in that particular person😂). I "fade out" and start thinking on my own and then whoever is speaking asks a question referring to what they've been saying and then I'm busted😂.
I agree I'm never bored when I get to actually do what I want to do, and there's always something I want to do. I get bored when I have to do things I don't want to do, but there's no such thing as having "nothing to do."
I think they can get bored when a task or situation is imposed on them, but they will never let themselves get bored in the time they have control over : there's always an endless to-do list somewhere, a project that needs advancing, or a hobby they love !
provided I’m free to listen to the constant flow of thoughts in my head I could never be bored. in situations where a lot of people would get bored I feel like, as an INTJ, I’ve learnt the talent of entertaining myself really well with my thoughts alone. however I did used to get extremely bored back at school in classes I disliked because I had to concentrate on the work instead of think about stuff I wanted to think about.
Ah yes certain subjects back in the day... I remember asking my history teacher in 4th grade “If history always repeats itself, then it seems as though we can’t actually learn from history. So why do we have this class?” He responded with “um... that’s a really good point”. 😂
Haha I relate, and once walked out of a math class in college halfway through because I was just so bored listening to the lecture and I thought, it doesn't matter I can just read the book and learn how to do the problems.
@@andreagreenwood93 omg I can relate to that too! maths was always my favourite subject but there was one year where my teacher was so boring that I skipped all of her classes and just taught myself the whole syllabus.
INFJ -- never experienced boredom, even as a child. My parents tell me I never said the words "I'm bored." During this pandemic, I've been fine while my extravert friends are clawing at the walls 😅
#endhatrednow INTJ are said to be the single most comfortable personality type with solitude. I hadn't realized that INFJ were also in this same category. With my health issues, contracting this virus would be very likely catastrophic or fatal in my case. As such, I've maintained a self isolation routine wherein I've gone for two or three months without interacting with another person face to face. But there is social media and online gaming where distant interactions can take place. One of my neighbors however is very much 'clawing at the walls' as you say. #endhatrednow
Man I relate to this so much- makes me question again my INTJ-ness lol. I've come to relate to INTPs in general more and more over the last decade. Except the INTPs I actually know irl have become less like me, ironically, as they develop their Fe over the years. Idk what's happening lol.
I'm "bored" in only 2 situations - when I can't get out of a situation that I am in which doesn't benefit me in any way and I have so much things I'd rather do and when I have just too much things to do (that I love) and don't have enough time to dedicate myself to any as much is I would like to. Besides that, I never find myself just sitting around, not knowing what to do with myself. I am an INTJ, thank you for asking haha
Great video Lindsey, thx! Interesting topic. I'm an INFJ and I can't fathom the idea of ever being bored (I had always considered it a character flaw tbh).
INFJ here with an ‘overactive’ Fe shall we say. I’ve been developing my Fi a lot this year to balance out my people pleasing Fe. Particularly walking away from situations and people when I’m not feeling it instead of feeling like there’s some obligation to stay in order to please or to avoid negative judgement. All that BS. And it’s been very liberating! Your videos have helped a lot with that. I’ve always felt like INTJs has this powerful supreme vibe and I think it comes from the Fi. I think it’s a really powerful and truthful function. It’s super inspirational. Watching Beth Harmon (INTJ character) from Queen’s Gambit helped me a lot in seeing the power of Ni Fi combo. Knowing what you want and just going for it like a predator and giving absolutely zero fucks about what people think. BEAUTIFUL.
I love the way you put this into words. As an INFJ, I realize -- compared to other people -- I really don't feel boredom as much either. Even if I don't have a specific goal, activity, etc., to engage myself in at the moment, there's always something that I'm thinking about. I swear my mind never stops. So yeah, I wouldn't say I feel boredom; but the only thing I experience similar to this are feelings of disconnect with others around me, or restlessness when I could be doing something more productive in some way.
That sums up my thoughts on this subject for years! Tedious is the word I use too and it is the worst! I'd rather have "nothing" to do, because I can ALWAYS find something I want to do, than have to waste time on tedious things. I feel "bored" a LOT but it's really just the feeling that I'm wasting my time I guess.
I had the same thought. Life's full of boring things that needs to be done but it's different from the actual feeling of being bored which I rarely get. /infj
As an INTJ, boredom for me happens when I suddenly have to wait for something and there's not much around me to observe/analyze and so I have to decide whether initiating a different state of flow will more likely end with a good stopping point or frustration that it ends abruptly by the thing that I was waiting for in the first place.
As an INFP I rarely get bored because there is always something interesting to think about, something to create, or something to learn. If something boring is happening I can usually modify with imagination and make it interesting. When I do get bored it is indeed because I don't know what I want to do. While I likely know what NEEDS to be done, I don't always want to do it, but I can usually engage my Si to tackle projects. And, yes, I have experienced boredom in conversation, but I think it's more of a fatigue due to stimulus overload.
That makes a lot of sense. As an INFJ, I do get bored often in conversations unlike INFPs and INTJs. I stay in boring conversations for the sake of my Fe, while I constantly think about the backlog of my Ni I say to myself "How long is this conversation going to take..?:(", and I don't have Ne to teleport myself into a different planet altogether.
I'm an INTJ too. Well, I never really experience boredom. Maybe because we always have the option to detach from the real world and analyze (or run simulations) in our head. It is like, we are present there physically but mentally we are busy figuring out other stuffs! Btw, thank you for all your videos. Keep up with your work. They are really helpful.
As a child and early teenager I remember that I could get genuinely bored and feel the boredom. Haven't had that feeling for years. Funny that I actually wish I could someday be bored. That feeling of infinite time and nothing to do sounds so relaxing at times.
INTJ here. LiJo is spot on! I totally relate on all points. I've set up my life so that I rarely get into situations unless I really want to be in them. So, I never get bored and instead have the opposite problem, continually have too many fun things to do and never being able to fit them all in. Life is an amazing buffet of interesting things to learn and experience.
I am never bored. I can highly relate to having a backlog. Whenever I find myself with free time (which is often), I just pick something off of the backlog that looks the most interesting at the moment and I get to work.
Awesome video. I also do not experience boredom at all, and have always been baffled that others seem to experience it more or less constantly. It makes sense now, given the INTJ mental landscape. Also, "Greater tolerance for enduring the bullshit of the conversation" was some brilliant phrasing haha
Thanks Lindsey. As an INTJ, I’ve rarely experienced boredom. Your thorough explanation sure resonated with me. I’ve never been tolerant of bullshit, a personality trait for which I’m most grateful despite the social costs.
Merry X-mas LiJo, my online counsellor LOL. TBH, you help me a lot with your content (which is great that somebody understand my "abstract mind"). Now I knowing myself better than before. thank you
When the flow of interesting, useful, thought provoking ideas stops then a stage one boredom begins to set in. Could be social or just situational but if lasts long enough maybe days then the boredom edges into a deeper state maybe pre-depression. I feel like my brain burns through information so rapidly it turns on itself if not fed constantly. With the internet I can pretty much keep it fed with new ideas and problems to solve but as a kid it was painful as there wasn’t much but libraries and encyclopedias and it was slow going.
Thank you for sharing your insights. I'm an INTJ. I prepared novels and Lego sets and video games for the holiday and just in a few days I had a meltdown because I wasn't respecting my long term to-do list, so I opened a theoretical book and study. Even a planned holiday can be excrutiatingly boring
I am really never bored,especially when I am doing something that interests me. As an only child,people think I really get bored but I never do. If I am not planning,I am learning about something new. I am almost always engaged especially in the abstract world.
INFJ here. I also noticed that I very rarely get bored. Even if I do boring tasks like cleaning I stay quite entertained through my thoughts. Same if I'm in a group having a boring conversation and they don't really seem to need my input I just slide away and do something else or tune out and get back in my head 😂
I often getting "tired" or "bored" for the same repetitive way of life and wanted to try something new and never have i done before, yes INTJ can be bored, alot.
are you absolutely sure you’re an INTJ? I thought we all loved and craved for repetition in life. a lack of continuous routine makes me severely depressed.
@@mariek.474 ahh okay, just saying what I’ve heard from many other INTJs! I know that in my case it’s because I’m both an INTJ and autistic - maybe just the other people I’ve spoken to have got their type wrong 🤷🏻♀️
@@scarletfever3086 Just one preference is very little to guess someone's type from, I think INTJs can be disciplined and have a schedule/routine too, but it's less for the comfort and enjoyment of the routine itself than that it's one efficient way to advance on a goal or a project (to work on it regularly/every day) ! And of course there's many other facets to someone than their MBTI ✨
I think your analysis in this video was accurate. I found your initial proclamation in signs you might not be an INTJ, "that INTJs don't get bored" a little unsettling, because I felt like boredom has been a serious trigger in my life that inspires me to seek things, experience insights, and have the occasional vision of the future, especially as a teenager and young adult, so this explanation of what causes boredom in your video made more sense to me. Which leads me to say, an INTJ doesn't tolerate boredom when they can help it and an INTJ doesn't experience boredom very regularly if left to their own devices, because they are usually trying to achieve something they care about.
I am INTJ, and I never get bored, there is always something to do or to think, to observe, to anlyse, to plan, always something to think for the future.
I've been watching your videos for a while but I've never commented on here. It's interesting, because boredom to me has never existed. I remember being either a child or a teenager and always finding something interesting to do, something to learn or anything really before I could even feel bored. Even to this day my coworkers complain about how bored they get and I think I've never felt bored. Even if I'm waiting in a line or for someone, I find interesting patterns to follow or things to go over in my head. Even when I'm in a Ni-Fi loop, where I can't get myself to follow a plan for my day and activities, I just don't feel bored. You explain it really well. It makes complete sense. Thank you for your insight. -INTJ
I am forever confused between being an INTJ or INTP, but this is totally true for me. My mind is always, ALWAYS, looking towards what to do next, be it physical or mental.
I wouldn't say I'm bored since I live inside my head a lot but there are downsides to it like pessimism, cynicism, and depressing thoughts when things go the wrong way.
At work, sometimes I force a backlog just so I can snap out of the boredom. It drives them nuts when l do very very little for a day and then do a week's work in two days. I've got to build up the internal pressure. I'm never bored when when they stick me with the impossible. In social settings, I do enjoy a good round of people watching (from a far of course). I never get bored of studying the actions, interactions and reactions. I tell people that I know that I am only here to observe their species, not to get involved. 7.8 billion people and each a puzzle to be solved. How can anyone be bored?
this right here. i remember some people texting me in quarantine like: quarantine is so boring and then my intj self sitting there like : yeah b-b-boring ahaha 😀 , why do you get bored again ? the struggle for me is not being able to do everything i want in a singular day ( fearing that my brain would explode from all the informations )
Lindsay, I think there may be a couple other categories of boredom in addition to the ones you list. 1) People with high Se having a lack of novel sensory inputs. Since Se is your fourth function you probably don't experience this a lot unless you're under stress. 2) (In the OPS formulation) people with lead Consume animal may get bored if there's nothing around worth consuming (this definitely happens to me). I'm not sure I've heard what your OPS animals are, so this may or may not apply to you.
An INTJ here. I am never bored as long as I am not required to focus my attention on something I am not interested in or would rather not be involved in. Ni will take control often without me even being aware of it until well after the fact, which can be a bit awkward when it happens during conversations that I don't find terribly interesting. My mind will simply start wandering and basically just shut out almost all Se input. I do find it quite useful when I need to do something like wait in a long line. While other people are becoming frustrated and upset, I'm just contentedly working on stuff in my head.
I have to choose to be bored - and even that is not boredom really, it is simply resting. I realised a long time ago that I pick hobbies and pass times that have no limit to how far you can take them, how skilled you can become. Only those things keep me interested. Same in employment - after starting my own business ~7 years ago, it's in a field which can never find its upper level. I am always able to look at always to improve, to grow.
Interesting topic. As an INTJ who is bored every day of my life... I agree with you that it's never a question of not knowing what to do. (And yes I have been bored in social situations but that's not a common issue). Boredom for me does not come from having nothing to do or not knowing what to do. It comes from having to put energy into routine sensory activities that I do not find rewarding, that have to be repeated ceaselessly every day till I die and are never "finished." Every day while I brush my teeth, shower, prepare routine meals (as opposed to trying new recipes), do laundry, I am EXCRUCIATINGLY bored. And there's a LOT of procrastinating involved, unfortunately. I am thinking of the future while I do these things, thinking of what I'll be doing when the dreaded task is finally over and I can finally do things toward an actual longer-term goal, but that doesn't help, it just makes me more restless like a dog straining at the leash. How do you get through these things without feeling bored? I *HATE* them. The ultimate victory would be to find a system that somehow eliminated these routine nuisances completely, if only a robot could do them. I'm sure people think they're no big deal but I think they're a waste of precious time. Sometimes I wish I didn't even have to eat.
As an INTJ with ADHD I experience boredom daily, especially when I have to participate in social situations where I actually need to focus on what's happening, even if it doesn't interest me AT ALL. I need something to be going on in my mind constantly and when other people are trying to direct my attention to something so mundane and simple, it drives me up a wall.
GREAT VIDEO! Famous Brenda saying, "Bored? bored! I am NEVER bored." As far as being trapped in boring conversations, I am old enough to be able to get away with changing convo subjects without social qualms.....and my "work schedule/process list" has become a guiding star for my family for successful endeavors. No one laughs anymore.....so, "boring" really means POINTLESS, WITH NO BENEFIT.
INTJ here. Sometimes I feel bored when get stuck in a simple and absorbing task...my mind is alway trying to scape an do something interesting...and I usually end doing two or three things at the same time...
Yeah, well done in explaining this. INTJ here also, and I don't remember the last time I was bored. Perhaps the only exception to that is when something is holding me back from doing the things I need done 10-15 years down the line. Every year has a log of to-do things, as does every month, and most days also. But yeah, conversations about the weather or 'my brother this / my sister that, and my friend', or the tree branch and a few leafs have fallen on the carport and so the world is ending.. for example, those... those make me wonder if I will collapse or if I was the frog that's about to be cooked alive for not jumping out of water that would soon boil in the pot. But if I still have energy after having heard the nonsense I do my best to run out / gtfo, to get back doing something that matters to needs of many humans, or at least back to developing myself so I can achieve more later.
Interesting... I am an INTJ and I indeed experienced horrendous boredom as a teenage homeschooler years ago, stuck in my home without internet. I’m sure I dealt with it 1000x better than some other personality types would have, and I had all kinds of projects and books to keep me busy, but sometimes the utter lack of external stimulation would get to me and when the boredom finally settled in it would be so painful it would cause me to cry... it caused what almost felt like physical pain. What I’ve learned about myself is that not only do I NEED to have problems to solve, I quickly become bored solving problems that are clearly not important to me or to others. That is, I need goals that fulfill a USEFUL goal. If I don’t feel that my efforts are useful, I quickly become bored, anhedonic, and depressed. Since my experience with boredom was so unpleasant, I have constantly worked to structure a life that supplies the kind of stimulation I need. I have clients and a team of coworkers that need me for my ability to solve complex problems, I am not in danger of running out of goals as long as I have my job. I always envied INTPs because it seemed as though they could be totally satisfied intellectualizing and solving problems just for the sake of doing it, without any regard to its utility. Honestly, in many ways, that has made me feel inferior, like I am not a true intellectual like I thought I was.
You constructed a reality to please tour savior functions. I did this too. Once you had the ability to control the reality (Ni) you put the systems in place to negate the thing you wish not to experience :)
INTJ and I always have a list of things and projects so usually only bored at work when I'm slow or in a conversation I can't leave while at work. I will also factor in alone time or relaxing time and be specific about that being my task. If I can't get away from something I purposely create stories in my head to amuse myself. Sometimes I feel lost if I don't have the tools to do all the things I should do and I'll continuously think about being stuck.
I usually score as INFJ. I don't remember ever being bored. I often distract myself away from my infinite ToDo list until anxiety over it not getting done brings me back. But those diversions happen because too many things interest me rather than too few. To be sure, I think many people would find my life boring! :-)
I’m board by mainstream and not when challenged with new information. The problem then becomes finding new information, and that with new information comes new conceptual views which then become more interesting perspectives. I understand why Socrates said “I know nothing”. Each new idea or concept can change everything my fundamentals were considered on and have constant reconciliation of myself to improve. It’s really a vicious cycle most people wouldn’t understand as they can’t conceptually understand themselves or our conscious ability to think. The perpetual thought process, train of thought; easily derailed but impossible to prevent. Archetypal. Who needs toys when you have a brain you can make literally anything or be anywhere, imagination has no limitations only we do using it.
Honestly with the pandemic and people getting bored being home I think I'm one of those people who are like meh I can literally count the days I've been out of the house for more than two hours and it's less than 10 and it's been productive like every year. Specially with less irrelevant get togethers
When the situation isn't productive or necessary...I leave lol When in boring situations, I'm either planning mentally or finding something to do. As a kid, I did experience boredom more since I needed permission to do things.
Hi, Lijo. INFJ also good in the TJ. Off topic question, why do some people talk with there hand? Seems to me,. That I use my hands when talking. I think it's due to relying on my imagination to communicate my thoughts. Then a friend made me aware of my hand talking. When I stopped using my hands to talk, I realized that I think in images that then have to be converted into words. I'm interested in whatever light you can shine on this. Thanks
I think there is another aspect to the backlog as well. The backlog may not just be "today's" items but whole other areas of expertise that want to be explored. I tell people I could easily live 3 lifetimes. Three (maybe four) is what it would take for me to tackle all that interests me.
The backlog is most definitely a thing! I don't get bored but I sometimes feel like my life is boring due to a lack of challenge. Maybe that's something to explore in a video, if you haven't already. In my case, timidity and health issues can prevent me from taking on challenges. I can't do much about the latter, but the former is definitely something to work on. Where can INTJs access bravery and confidence?
I've had these conversations with intj friends.. as a enxp I will walk out of a social situation if it's boring.. but I seriously struggle with sticking to something important , even a hobby. I can learn from you guys.
INTJ here. I’m never bored. My mind always has something running in the background. I do, however, take time to “veg out” once in awhile so my brain can relax. So I may just watch an old TV sitcom and shut down the apps running in my brains background. But that’s about as close to “bored” as I will get.
i'm an intj and i'm constantly bored because my life as many paterns as there are, all the paterns are too repetetiv or annoying and when there arent paterns i have a head ach because my life is not controld by me and most stuff that happen are uncontrolable stuff that prevent me from advensing
i honestly don’t think i’d ever be bored if i was just an INTJ alone, but depression definitely prevents me from doing INTJ like things from time to time
Yes, funny. I often say "I am never bored". People look at me like I'm crazy. Agree with the others, enforced tedium is the biggest disruptor of my entire process.
My boredom lately because I have passed my final test (and my graduation is on feb 2021), now I do not have anything to do at all, I have no topic to talk/discuss with my profs any longer. I constantly try to stimulate my brain and mood to do something, now I mostly just watch some food travelling vlogs that i have watched.
+ and I mayhaps overplan my plans in 2021. I wish to learn mandarin and swedish, what I should and must prefer to learn the language after my grad. my brain loves the plan so I let make the plan, the bad side is my body has no "jobs" to work with.
As an INTJ I do sometimes experience boredom. This is only at work or in situations in which I'm not in control (where I am more at the whims of others and have no idea or plan for what's going to happen). Otherwise, I don't experience boredom at all. I have far too much to do and nowhere near enough time for what I wish to do.
I have only ever met 4 other INTJ's in my 25 years of living. I became "aware" of my Ni at age 6 before later in life understanding cognitive functioning. My father was an INTP and mother was an ISFJ. My father frequently found my thought processes fascinating lol but I hated his lack of ambition. My mother and I don't talk today (lol long story, yet obvious given the types in this scenerio) I get easily amused when I can figure out in minutes what someone's type is after talking with them, and when doing business in my day to day life I love navigating the minds of my colleagues to see how they react to my ideas. (They usually accept them even if I have to put it to them in 6 different ways) lol
This is mostly true for me but there are certain situations where I cannot hop back into my inner world and start processing. This is pretty much always a situation like a meeting or briefing I am required to be at, where I am not interested in what is being discussed for whatever reason, but am required to pay close attention to it for reasons like I will be asked about it afterwards and must recall it. The anxiety I feel in those situations is exhausting
I am an INFJ. I only get bored when I can't get on the next thing on the backlog either because of the place or situation, but if I relax a bit I can blissfully silde into daydreaming. In spite of having Fe I don't get social situation boredom often because firstly, I don't put myself in that position and secondIy, I bail as soon as possible as such conversations have no real value.
INTJ and rarely, if ever, bored. I have so many things that always need to get done or that I want to do that every drop of executive function I can get in line is spent doing things. I think the only times I get bored are situations where I'm doing menial physical tasks and I'm not cognitively engaged in it like dishes or stuck at the laundromat.
INTJ - can verify that boredom is a very rare experience, only happens when I'm forced to be somewhere social which I can't escape, such as at a wedding without a ride to leave early.
INTJ here and I agree I am rarely bored. When it occasionally happens (outside of social situations) it's a very strange and off-putting feeling that I almost struggle to identify.
I am just recently discovering that I am an INTJ-T. It has always been a mystery to me why my brain functions differently to most other people's. I don't know, I guess it makes a little more sense now.... I still have a lot of information to digest and process about the subject. I have found it is too easy to get lost in your own mind for in indefinite amount of time and never be "bored". I believe this is why Nicola Tesla was able to engineer all of his remarkable inventions in his mind. Truly see them to life in his imagination. Not too far fetched in my opinion.
I too as well don't get bored easily if I have nothing to do i dive into my inner world to think and think..but Is it the case with eating habits as well? As i eat the same thing for my breakfast and lunch for almost 365 days and never complain about the same.🤔
Omw I literally leave conversations exactly like how you're explaining, I did this even when I was younger and my mum who is an ISFJ Hated It she said it was rude...
Fe users are basically like that. they don't care about you, at the end of the day, its about manipulating the emotional atmosphere according to what THEY deem as "appropriate". at the end of the day, its about them, Fe is a selfish function
Supposed INTJ here (I took 3 different tests twice online, didn't seem very scientific though). I experience boredom whenever I am forced to do something that is not intellectually stimulating/overly repetitive, or emotionally rewarding. Usually it is always either work related or relationship maintenance, such as social gatherings or upholding my end of a social contract kind of situation. It's usually either mind numbing or unpleasant/miserably time-sucking respectively. Otherwise, I don't have time to be bored, it always seems like too much of a wasteful luxury, and honestly, I don't really know how to be bored when left to my own devices. Though I think I would like to experience boredom under my own terms, like when i retire some day. maybe as an experiment? sounds fun under those circumstances.
I just had a conversation about it with my parents. Infj's doesn't get bored either (me and my father at least). My guess is that Si+Fe doms are usually those who stick in a social events even if they find them boring - the sense of duty combined with consideration for the emotions of the people around them (like my mom).
INTJ - If I ever get "bored" for lack of a better word, and I can't get away from the situation for some reason, I'm in my head thinking about . . . . something. What's next on the to do list. Where I need to do. My grocery list. Something "productive" How can you be bored when you have a mind to use?
I do experience boredom, mostly when I'm stuck in a situation where I cannot do whatever is in my "backlog" and have to wait, and there is nothing else to be done in the meantime. Or when something is pointless. I try not to get up and go to my laptop in social situations; I tend to leave parties early and everyone knows it's fine. But with family there is drama to follow if I leave, so I will totally look at my phone if the conversation has no substance whatsoever, or will "explore the beautiful house for a bit" or "go to the bathroom" because even if it's the same people don't make as much of a big deal out of "discreetly leaving" the room lol. I am quite a restless person in general and I need stuff to do
i've never really thought of this, cuz i'm intj as well. and yes: down time is planned - to stop the hamster wheel in my head from time to time. that said, there have been times when i was bored: when i was usaf, and i'm subject to someone else's agenda instead of my own. the whole time i'm thinking of all the other stuff i could be doing instead of THIS.
Besides for boring conversation, I usually get bored when spending "family time" in front of the TV, especially if what's on the TV isn't stimulating for me.
I sorta have a question. My personality certainly governs the way I interact with people (I'm an INTJ), but I've noticed that my priorities change when I'm around my crush. I feel like the ways I begin to care about my social status (I don't know if status is the right word. More like moment to moment impression on her) are in opposition to how I normally view social circumstances. But I certainly know that when I talk to my friend about my feelings and thoughts about my crush then they think I'm very different from most people (and my thoughts seemingly fit my personality type). So I don't know what I'm asking😂. Can I be a certain personality but then have my priorities changed cause I'm "in love" or am I imitating what I perceive my crush's personality to be? Sorry for being rambley.
My friends are astonished at how I don't get bored. To me there is always something to do and even as a kid if I were forced to be in a quite room with nothing to do there was always something to look at and wonder how it worked or how it was made. However I did experience some boredom as a kid when I was forced into a situation where I wasn't allowed do what I wanted. It also happened because I didn't have the skills to do what I wanted and I think that is key when looking at some children when they are bored.
from at least 7th grade through college, I would be bored almost to the point of anger if the teacher was talking about something pointless (weather, family vacation, etc) or about info I already knew, unless I something else to read or work on to fill those moments that felt like time theft.
All that is related to the way intj consider time. this ressources is so valuable we can't stay in front of someone spending it like shit.Even if with mbti knowledge i am better at Fe i still consider waste time like crime .when you have a todo list longer than 10× time your own life it make sense. It also have something to do with enneagram 5 types being always hungry of knowledge And INTJ big Understanding quest you talk about recently. Btw this ability can lead to sttrugle in giving to our relationship enough time.
Wow. What an interesting video.
As an INTJ I have been trying to develop my Fi and I couldn't work out why I did not resonate with boredom.
You explain it really well.
You are 100% INTJ!
Thanks Ma Mu. Glad it resonated. I appreciate you.
My imagination is too vast and vivid for me to ever be bored
My inner world is too interesting for me to get bored. If I foresee a boring situation, I escape to another room. If I can't escape it, I escape to my inner world and play there for hours if I need to. 😁
The wonders of living in a land displaced from reality 😌
As an INTJ I’ve truly never been bored. It’s a blessing not to need anyone to entertain you
Or not to feel as though you need to entertain anyone else 😂
@@InternetLiJo tbh I’m bored around people I find everyone else boring even though they see it as fun. The thing is I’m sometimes an intj and other times I’m an isfp so I fall between the two I love to read between the lines, I’m a deep thinker but I also see everything as an opportunity for growth and I value freedom of expression. However I love to debate and try to be right
Amen!
Agreed. But my ESFP friend is always bored. 🙄
INTJ here - I am never bored when I can control what I do. But stuck in 4 hour school board meeting that should take 2, trapped listening to someone's inane stories, sitting in a 5 hour gymnastics meet just sucks the life out of me. Also, regarding this "learn to live in the present" notion - I rejected that long ago. Plenty of people live in the present / for the moment, we don't need more of them, they need more of us. I only look to the past if it will help inform the future and I occasionally check in on the present to make sure it is going the way I planned.
+1
that was great. LOL....we dont need more of them...they need more ofus...YES!
Yeah I've noticed I'm only bored when I'm listening to other people that are not saying anything substantial (which basically means I don't think the topic is interesting and I'm not interested in that particular person😂). I "fade out" and start thinking on my own and then whoever is speaking asks a question referring to what they've been saying and then I'm busted😂.
it’s the same with me
I agree I'm never bored when I get to actually do what I want to do, and there's always something I want to do. I get bored when I have to do things I don't want to do, but there's no such thing as having "nothing to do."
I think they can get bored when a task or situation is imposed on them, but they will never let themselves get bored in the time they have control over : there's always an endless to-do list somewhere, a project that needs advancing, or a hobby they love !
Perfectly said Marie. INTJs ... leveraging control or bust 😂
perfectly said
I am never bored provided that no outside force is impeding on my time
Me an ENTP: "Is it possible to learn this power?
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INTJ: "Not from an Ne user"
@@farrex0 yea...not from us XD (intp)
The backlog thing is so true. I hate when I tell people I'm busy, and they ask with what?
provided I’m free to listen to the constant flow of thoughts in my head I could never be bored. in situations where a lot of people would get bored I feel like, as an INTJ, I’ve learnt the talent of entertaining myself really well with my thoughts alone. however I did used to get extremely bored back at school in classes I disliked because I had to concentrate on the work instead of think about stuff I wanted to think about.
Ah yes certain subjects back in the day...
I remember asking my history teacher in 4th grade “If history always repeats itself, then it seems as though we can’t actually learn from history. So why do we have this class?”
He responded with “um... that’s a really good point”. 😂
Haha I relate, and once walked out of a math class in college halfway through because I was just so bored listening to the lecture and I thought, it doesn't matter I can just read the book and learn how to do the problems.
@@andreagreenwood93 omg I can relate to that too! maths was always my favourite subject but there was one year where my teacher was so boring that I skipped all of her classes and just taught myself the whole syllabus.
INFJ -- never experienced boredom, even as a child. My parents tell me I never said the words "I'm bored." During this pandemic, I've been fine while my extravert friends are clawing at the walls 😅
#endhatrednow
INTJ are said to be the single most comfortable personality type with solitude. I hadn't realized that INFJ were also in this same category. With my health issues, contracting this virus would be very likely catastrophic or fatal in my case. As such, I've maintained a self isolation routine wherein I've gone for two or three months without interacting with another person face to face. But there is social media and online gaming where distant interactions can take place. One of my neighbors however is very much 'clawing at the walls' as you say.
#endhatrednow
I imagine INTJs in prison experience boredom.
well they can basically play chess with themselves lol
Ti-dom: Boredom = nothing to analyze
Good feedback thanks!
@@InternetLiJo For an INTJ that is a lot of Fe for one comment 😄 Thank you... I appreciate it!
I truly think I would die if there were nothing to analyze
Man I relate to this so much- makes me question again my INTJ-ness lol. I've come to relate to INTPs in general more and more over the last decade. Except the INTPs I actually know irl have become less like me, ironically, as they develop their Fe over the years. Idk what's happening lol.
try Te dom, if there's no obstacle to solve we get real bored real fast
I'm "bored" in only 2 situations - when I can't get out of a situation that I am in which doesn't benefit me in any way and I have so much things I'd rather do and when I have just too much things to do (that I love) and don't have enough time to dedicate myself to any as much is I would like to.
Besides that, I never find myself just sitting around, not knowing what to do with myself.
I am an INTJ, thank you for asking haha
Great video Lindsey, thx! Interesting topic.
I'm an INFJ and I can't fathom the idea of ever being bored (I had always considered it a character flaw tbh).
INFJ here with an ‘overactive’ Fe shall we say. I’ve been developing my Fi a lot this year to balance out my people pleasing Fe. Particularly walking away from situations and people when I’m not feeling it instead of feeling like there’s some obligation to stay in order to please or to avoid negative judgement. All that BS.
And it’s been very liberating! Your videos have helped a lot with that. I’ve always felt like INTJs has this powerful supreme vibe and I think it comes from the Fi. I think it’s a really powerful and truthful function. It’s super inspirational. Watching Beth Harmon (INTJ character) from Queen’s Gambit helped me a lot in seeing the power of Ni Fi combo. Knowing what you want and just going for it like a predator and giving absolutely zero fucks about what people think. BEAUTIFUL.
As an INTJ I tell people I'm bored because I learned the other types wouldn't understand that I'm never bored and my head keeps me completely engaged
I love the way you put this into words. As an INFJ, I realize -- compared to other people -- I really don't feel boredom as much either. Even if I don't have a specific goal, activity, etc., to engage myself in at the moment, there's always something that I'm thinking about. I swear my mind never stops. So yeah, I wouldn't say I feel boredom; but the only thing I experience similar to this are feelings of disconnect with others around me, or restlessness when I could be doing something more productive in some way.
I love getting that added touch of Fe from the INFJ perspective.
INFJ. I distinguish Boredom (nothing to do) vs Tedium (boring things that must be done).
I don't get bored, but I do get tediumed.
That's pretty accurate. Tediumed. Lol.
That sums up my thoughts on this subject for years! Tedious is the word I use too and it is the worst! I'd rather have "nothing" to do, because I can ALWAYS find something I want to do, than have to waste time on tedious things. I feel "bored" a LOT but it's really just the feeling that I'm wasting my time I guess.
I had the same thought. Life's full of boring things that needs to be done but it's different from the actual feeling of being bored which I rarely get. /infj
As an INTJ, boredom for me happens when I suddenly have to wait for something and there's not much around me to observe/analyze and so I have to decide whether initiating a different state of flow will more likely end with a good stopping point or frustration that it ends abruptly by the thing that I was waiting for in the first place.
As an INFP I rarely get bored because there is always something interesting to think about, something to create, or something to learn. If something boring is happening I can usually modify with imagination and make it interesting. When I do get bored it is indeed because I don't know what I want to do. While I likely know what NEEDS to be done, I don't always want to do it, but I can usually engage my Si to tackle projects. And, yes, I have experienced boredom in conversation, but I think it's more of a fatigue due to stimulus overload.
Yes I see that to be true for those with your type!
Highly relatable to us intp's, as well.
That makes a lot of sense. As an INFJ, I do get bored often in conversations unlike INFPs and INTJs. I stay in boring conversations for the sake of my Fe, while I constantly think about the backlog of my Ni I say to myself "How long is this conversation going to take..?:(", and I don't have Ne to teleport myself into a different planet altogether.
I'm an INTJ too. Well, I never really experience boredom. Maybe because we always have the option to detach from the real world and analyze (or run simulations) in our head. It is like, we are present there physically but mentally we are busy figuring out other stuffs!
Btw, thank you for all your videos. Keep up with your work. They are really helpful.
Thank you for being here 🖤👽
As a child and early teenager I remember that I could get genuinely bored and feel the boredom. Haven't had that feeling for years. Funny that I actually wish I could someday be bored. That feeling of infinite time and nothing to do sounds so relaxing at times.
INFJ- So the backlog is the reason why sometimes I am forgetful to trivial things like other people's birthdays.
Sure, unless you consciously decide birthdays are no longer trivial :)
INTJ here. LiJo is spot on! I totally relate on all points. I've set up my life so that I rarely get into situations unless I really want to be in them. So, I never get bored and instead have the opposite problem, continually have too many fun things to do and never being able to fit them all in. Life is an amazing buffet of interesting things to learn and experience.
Boredom happens when you can’t do the thing.
At least we can always think about the thing!
LiJo - My favorite activity when I can't do the thing!
I am never bored. I can highly relate to having a backlog. Whenever I find myself with free time (which is often), I just pick something off of the backlog that looks the most interesting at the moment and I get to work.
Exactly how I experience it as well.
Awesome video. I also do not experience boredom at all, and have always been baffled that others seem to experience it more or less constantly. It makes sense now, given the INTJ mental landscape.
Also, "Greater tolerance for enduring the bullshit of the conversation" was some brilliant phrasing haha
Thanks Lindsey. As an INTJ, I’ve rarely experienced boredom. Your thorough explanation sure resonated with me. I’ve never been tolerant of bullshit, a personality trait for which I’m most grateful despite the social costs.
I’m grateful of that trait as well. 😂
Merry X-mas LiJo, my online counsellor LOL. TBH, you help me a lot with your content (which is great that somebody understand my "abstract mind"). Now I knowing myself better than before. thank you
Abstract is easier to understand with someone who shares that reality!
@@InternetLiJo looking forward to find that awesome person
When the flow of interesting, useful, thought provoking ideas stops then a stage one boredom begins to set in. Could be social or just situational but if lasts long enough maybe days then the boredom edges into a deeper state maybe pre-depression. I feel like my brain burns through information so rapidly it turns on itself if not fed constantly. With the internet I can pretty much keep it fed with new ideas and problems to solve but as a kid it was painful as there wasn’t much but libraries and encyclopedias and it was slow going.
Thank you for sharing your insights. I'm an INTJ. I prepared novels and Lego sets and video games for the holiday and just in a few days I had a meltdown because I wasn't respecting my long term to-do list, so I opened a theoretical book and study. Even a planned holiday can be excrutiatingly boring
I am really never bored,especially when I am doing something that interests me. As an only child,people think I really get bored but I never do. If I am not planning,I am learning about something new. I am almost always engaged especially in the abstract world.
INFJ here. I also noticed that I very rarely get bored. Even if I do boring tasks like cleaning I stay quite entertained through my thoughts. Same if I'm in a group having a boring conversation and they don't really seem to need my input I just slide away and do something else or tune out and get back in my head 😂
I often getting "tired" or "bored" for the same repetitive way of life and wanted to try something new and never have i done before, yes INTJ can be bored, alot.
are you absolutely sure you’re an INTJ? I thought we all loved and craved for repetition in life. a lack of continuous routine makes me severely depressed.
Well, I don't know to be honest, I just took some personality test online.
@@scarletfever3086 What you describe seems to be linked to the Si function rather than Ni ! (for an ISTJ for example)
@@mariek.474 ahh okay, just saying what I’ve heard from many other INTJs! I know that in my case it’s because I’m both an INTJ and autistic - maybe just the other people I’ve spoken to have got their type wrong 🤷🏻♀️
@@scarletfever3086 Just one preference is very little to guess someone's type from, I think INTJs can be disciplined and have a schedule/routine too, but it's less for the comfort and enjoyment of the routine itself than that it's one efficient way to advance on a goal or a project (to work on it regularly/every day) ! And of course there's many other facets to someone than their MBTI ✨
I think your analysis in this video was accurate. I found your initial proclamation in signs you might not be an INTJ, "that INTJs don't get bored" a little unsettling, because I felt like boredom has been a serious trigger in my life that inspires me to seek things, experience insights, and have the occasional vision of the future, especially as a teenager and young adult, so this explanation of what causes boredom in your video made more sense to me. Which leads me to say, an INTJ doesn't tolerate boredom when they can help it and an INTJ doesn't experience boredom very regularly if left to their own devices, because they are usually trying to achieve something they care about.
100 % yes ⭐ It (the backlog) never runs out, and it's only refined when I get more time to work on it. Hard to explain to people though.
Haha it is hard to explain to other people
I am INTJ, and I never get bored, there is always something to do or to think, to observe, to anlyse, to plan, always something to think for the future.
I've been watching your videos for a while but I've never commented on here. It's interesting, because boredom to me has never existed. I remember being either a child or a teenager and always finding something interesting to do, something to learn or anything really before I could even feel bored. Even to this day my coworkers complain about how bored they get and I think I've never felt bored. Even if I'm waiting in a line or for someone, I find interesting patterns to follow or things to go over in my head. Even when I'm in a Ni-Fi loop, where I can't get myself to follow a plan for my day and activities, I just don't feel bored.
You explain it really well. It makes complete sense. Thank you for your insight.
-INTJ
I’m so glad you decided to say hello and that the video resonated with you 🖤
I am forever confused between being an INTJ or INTP, but this is totally true for me. My mind is always, ALWAYS, looking towards what to do next, be it physical or mental.
I wouldn't say I'm bored since I live inside my head a lot but there are downsides to it like pessimism, cynicism, and depressing thoughts when things go the wrong way.
Wow fascinating. Ni is so certain of what *should* be done. I'm almost never convinced about what should be done next.
Ni is very very certain of next steps once it’s locked in.
At work, sometimes I force a backlog just so I can snap out of the boredom. It drives them nuts when l do very very little for a day and then do a week's work in two days. I've got to build up the internal pressure. I'm never bored when when they stick me with the impossible.
In social settings, I do enjoy a good round of people watching (from a far of course). I never get bored of studying the actions, interactions and reactions. I tell people that I know that I am only here to observe their species, not to get involved. 7.8 billion people and each a puzzle to be solved. How can anyone be bored?
Hot damn John. This is exactly... exactly how I see the world as well.
this right here.
i remember some people texting me in quarantine like: quarantine is so boring
and then my intj self sitting there like : yeah b-b-boring ahaha 😀 , why do you get bored again ? the struggle for me is not being able to do everything i want in a singular day ( fearing that my brain would explode from all the informations )
@Has Goodles oh lord you are right , i would have infinite lives , it's going to be spectacular yet deadly depressing 💀
Lindsay, I think there may be a couple other categories of boredom in addition to the ones you list. 1) People with high Se having a lack of novel sensory inputs. Since Se is your fourth function you probably don't experience this a lot unless you're under stress. 2) (In the OPS formulation) people with lead Consume animal may get bored if there's nothing around worth consuming (this definitely happens to me). I'm not sure I've heard what your OPS animals are, so this may or may not apply to you.
Haha I’m consume last and yes this is absolutely a category.
An INTJ here. I am never bored as long as I am not required to focus my attention on something I am not interested in or would rather not be involved in. Ni will take control often without me even being aware of it until well after the fact, which can be a bit awkward when it happens during conversations that I don't find terribly interesting. My mind will simply start wandering and basically just shut out almost all Se input. I do find it quite useful when I need to do something like wait in a long line. While other people are becoming frustrated and upset, I'm just contentedly working on stuff in my head.
Yes! It’s easy to be anywhere when you’re never actually “here” 😂😩
I have to choose to be bored - and even that is not boredom really, it is simply resting. I realised a long time ago that I pick hobbies and pass times that have no limit to how far you can take them, how skilled you can become. Only those things keep me interested. Same in employment - after starting my own business ~7 years ago, it's in a field which can never find its upper level. I am always able to look at always to improve, to grow.
Yes we have to choose rest, which is a good choice to make on occasion 😌
I think instead of feeling bored, I end up feeling overwhelmed.
Interesting topic. As an INTJ who is bored every day of my life... I agree with you that it's never a question of not knowing what to do. (And yes I have been bored in social situations but that's not a common issue). Boredom for me does not come from having nothing to do or not knowing what to do. It comes from having to put energy into routine sensory activities that I do not find rewarding, that have to be repeated ceaselessly every day till I die and are never "finished." Every day while I brush my teeth, shower, prepare routine meals (as opposed to trying new recipes), do laundry, I am EXCRUCIATINGLY bored. And there's a LOT of procrastinating involved, unfortunately. I am thinking of the future while I do these things, thinking of what I'll be doing when the dreaded task is finally over and I can finally do things toward an actual longer-term goal, but that doesn't help, it just makes me more restless like a dog straining at the leash. How do you get through these things without feeling bored? I *HATE* them. The ultimate victory would be to find a system that somehow eliminated these routine nuisances completely, if only a robot could do them. I'm sure people think they're no big deal but I think they're a waste of precious time. Sometimes I wish I didn't even have to eat.
Yeah I have to preplan my off day and if errands is needed then plan it in too. If I am going out I need to do all the out stuff all at once.
As an INTJ with ADHD I experience boredom daily, especially when I have to participate in social situations where I actually need to focus on what's happening, even if it doesn't interest me AT ALL. I need something to be going on in my mind constantly and when other people are trying to direct my attention to something so mundane and simple, it drives me up a wall.
GREAT VIDEO!
Famous Brenda saying, "Bored? bored! I am NEVER bored." As far as being trapped in boring conversations, I am old enough to be able to get away with changing convo subjects without social qualms.....and my "work schedule/process list" has become a guiding star for my family for successful endeavors. No one laughs anymore.....so, "boring" really means POINTLESS, WITH NO BENEFIT.
Me an INTJ who wants to improve myself by carefully listen to an INTJ expert here, in order to understand myself better too. Awesome, very well spoken
Thank you 🖤
INTJ here. Sometimes I feel bored when get stuck in a simple and absorbing task...my mind is alway trying to scape an do something interesting...and I usually end doing two or three things at the same time...
Yeah, well done in explaining this. INTJ here also, and I don't remember the last time I was bored. Perhaps the only exception to that is when something is holding me back from doing the things I need done 10-15 years down the line. Every year has a log of to-do things, as does every month, and most days also. But yeah, conversations about the weather or 'my brother this / my sister that, and my friend', or the tree branch and a few leafs have fallen on the carport and so the world is ending.. for example, those... those make me wonder if I will collapse or if I was the frog that's about to be cooked alive for not jumping out of water that would soon boil in the pot. But if I still have energy after having heard the nonsense I do my best to run out / gtfo, to get back doing something that matters to needs of many humans, or at least back to developing myself so I can achieve more later.
Interesting... I am an INTJ and I indeed experienced horrendous boredom as a teenage homeschooler years ago, stuck in my home without internet. I’m sure I dealt with it 1000x better than some other personality types would have, and I had all kinds of projects and books to keep me busy, but sometimes the utter lack of external stimulation would get to me and when the boredom finally settled in it would be so painful it would cause me to cry... it caused what almost felt like physical pain.
What I’ve learned about myself is that not only do I NEED to have problems to solve, I quickly become bored solving problems that are clearly not important to me or to others. That is, I need goals that fulfill a USEFUL goal. If I don’t feel that my efforts are useful, I quickly become bored, anhedonic, and depressed.
Since my experience with boredom was so unpleasant, I have constantly worked to structure a life that supplies the kind of stimulation I need. I have clients and a team of coworkers that need me for my ability to solve complex problems, I am not in danger of running out of goals as long as I have my job. I always envied INTPs because it seemed as though they could be totally satisfied intellectualizing and solving problems just for the sake of doing it, without any regard to its utility. Honestly, in many ways, that has made me feel inferior, like I am not a true intellectual like I thought I was.
You constructed a reality to please tour savior functions. I did this too. Once you had the ability to control the reality (Ni) you put the systems in place to negate the thing you wish not to experience :)
INTJ and I always have a list of things and projects so usually only bored at work when I'm slow or in a conversation I can't leave while at work. I will also factor in alone time or relaxing time and be specific about that being my task. If I can't get away from something I purposely create stories in my head to amuse myself. Sometimes I feel lost if I don't have the tools to do all the things I should do and I'll continuously think about being stuck.
It's so true,......u tell it in a way that literally example my mind, I am not sure if I am even bored but I really do the things you says in this v6
I usually score as INFJ. I don't remember ever being bored. I often distract myself away from my infinite ToDo list until anxiety over it not getting done brings me back. But those diversions happen because too many things interest me rather than too few. To be sure, I think many people would find my life boring! :-)
I’m board by mainstream and not when challenged with new information. The problem then becomes finding new information, and that with new information comes new conceptual views which then become more interesting perspectives. I understand why Socrates said “I know nothing”. Each new idea or concept can change everything my fundamentals were considered on and have constant reconciliation of myself to improve.
It’s really a vicious cycle most people wouldn’t understand as they can’t conceptually understand themselves or our conscious ability to think. The perpetual thought process, train of thought; easily derailed but impossible to prevent. Archetypal.
Who needs toys when you have a brain you can make literally anything or be anywhere, imagination has no limitations only we do using it.
Could you make a video about HSP INTJs? Cause many of us feel like both INTJ and INFJ
Honestly with the pandemic and people getting bored being home I think I'm one of those people who are like meh
I can literally count the days I've been out of the house for more than two hours and it's less than 10 and it's been productive like every year. Specially with less irrelevant get togethers
Same, in the pandemic I adapt well and rarely I'm bored, those cases are that I run out of the ideas
Lol 😆, I have much to do in my mind. I can pick up where I left off....or start something new.
Boring situation >> phase out
When the situation isn't productive or necessary...I leave lol
When in boring situations, I'm either planning mentally or finding something to do. As a kid, I did experience boredom more since I needed permission to do things.
Hi, Lijo. INFJ also good in the TJ. Off topic question, why do some people talk with there hand?
Seems to me,. That I use my hands when talking. I think it's due to relying on my imagination to communicate my thoughts. Then a friend made me aware of my hand talking. When I stopped using my hands to talk, I realized that I think in images that then have to be converted into words.
I'm interested in whatever light you can shine on this. Thanks
That’s how I experience it as well. It’s as if my hands act as a medium to help what I’m seeing in my head connect to reality.
I think there is another aspect to the backlog as well. The backlog may not just be "today's" items but whole other areas of expertise that want to be explored. I tell people I could easily live 3 lifetimes. Three (maybe four) is what it would take for me to tackle all that interests me.
The backlog is most definitely a thing! I don't get bored but I sometimes feel like my life is boring due to a lack of challenge. Maybe that's something to explore in a video, if you haven't already. In my case, timidity and health issues can prevent me from taking on challenges. I can't do much about the latter, but the former is definitely something to work on. Where can INTJs access bravery and confidence?
I've had these conversations with intj friends.. as a enxp I will walk out of a social situation if it's boring.. but I seriously struggle with sticking to something important , even a hobby.
I can learn from you guys.
INTJ here. I’m never bored. My mind always has something running in the background. I do, however, take time to “veg out” once in awhile so my brain can relax. So I may just watch an old TV sitcom and shut down the apps running in my brains background. But that’s about as close to “bored” as I will get.
i'm an intj and i'm constantly bored because my life as many paterns as there are, all the paterns are too repetetiv or annoying and when there arent paterns i have a head ach because my life is not controld by me and most stuff that happen are uncontrolable stuff that prevent me from advensing
i honestly don’t think i’d ever be bored if i was just an INTJ alone, but depression definitely prevents me from doing INTJ like things from time to time
Yes, funny. I often say "I am never bored". People look at me like I'm crazy. Agree with the others, enforced tedium is the biggest disruptor of my entire process.
My boredom lately because I have passed my final test (and my graduation is on feb 2021), now I do not have anything to do at all, I have no topic to talk/discuss with my profs any longer. I constantly try to stimulate my brain and mood to do something, now I mostly just watch some food travelling vlogs that i have watched.
+ and I mayhaps overplan my plans in 2021. I wish to learn mandarin and swedish, what I should and must prefer to learn the language after my grad. my brain loves the plan so I let make the plan, the bad side is my body has no "jobs" to work with.
As an INTJ I do sometimes experience boredom. This is only at work or in situations in which I'm not in control (where I am more at the whims of others and have no idea or plan for what's going to happen). Otherwise, I don't experience boredom at all. I have far too much to do and nowhere near enough time for what I wish to do.
I have only ever met 4 other INTJ's in my 25 years of living. I became "aware" of my Ni at age 6 before later in life understanding cognitive functioning. My father was an INTP and mother was an ISFJ. My father frequently found my thought processes fascinating lol but I hated his lack of ambition. My mother and I don't talk today (lol long story, yet obvious given the types in this scenerio) I get easily amused when I can figure out in minutes what someone's type is after talking with them, and when doing business in my day to day life I love navigating the minds of my colleagues to see how they react to my ideas. (They usually accept them even if I have to put it to them in 6 different ways) lol
Intjs are everywhere make ones anyway. I never met a female intj
Thanks.
You have confirmed my decision to not have children. Just another reason.
I don't want my child to hate my lack of ambition
This is mostly true for me but there are certain situations where I cannot hop back into my inner world and start processing. This is pretty much always a situation like a meeting or briefing I am required to be at, where I am not interested in what is being discussed for whatever reason, but am required to pay close attention to it for reasons like I will be asked about it afterwards and must recall it. The anxiety I feel in those situations is exhausting
I am an INFJ. I only get bored when I can't get on the next thing on the backlog either because of the place or situation, but if I relax a bit I can blissfully silde into daydreaming. In spite of having Fe I don't get social situation boredom often because firstly, I don't put myself in that position and secondIy, I bail as soon as possible as such conversations have no real value.
INTJ and rarely, if ever, bored. I have so many things that always need to get done or that I want to do that every drop of executive function I can get in line is spent doing things. I think the only times I get bored are situations where I'm doing menial physical tasks and I'm not cognitively engaged in it like dishes or stuck at the laundromat.
INTJ - can verify that boredom is a very rare experience, only happens when I'm forced to be somewhere social which I can't escape, such as at a wedding without a ride to leave early.
The best chill time can be the type that's not always planned.
True! When it happens...
Right on. Now I wonder if it is the same for ENTJs, or does Ni second changes things up a bit?
Probably a bit more application oriented and slightly less mental backlog staring you in the face :)
I experience social boredom, but I don't experience boredom in my own time. -intp
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INTJ here and I agree I am rarely bored. When it occasionally happens (outside of social situations) it's a very strange and off-putting feeling that I almost struggle to identify.
I am just recently discovering that I am an INTJ-T. It has always been a mystery to me why my brain functions differently to most other people's. I don't know, I guess it makes a little more sense now.... I still have a lot of information to digest and process about the subject.
I have found it is too easy to get lost in your own mind for in indefinite amount of time and never be "bored". I believe this is why Nicola Tesla was able to engineer all of his remarkable inventions in his mind. Truly see them to life in his imagination. Not too far fetched in my opinion.
I too as well don't get bored easily if I have nothing to do i dive into my inner world to think and think..but Is it the case with eating habits as well? As i eat the same thing for my breakfast and lunch for almost 365 days and never complain about the same.🤔
Omw I literally leave conversations exactly like how you're explaining, I did this even when I was younger and my mum who is an ISFJ Hated It she said it was rude...
Fe users are basically like that. they don't care about you, at the end of the day, its about manipulating the emotional atmosphere according to what THEY deem as "appropriate". at the end of the day, its about them, Fe is a selfish function
INTJ here, 100% totally spot on
Supposed INTJ here (I took 3 different tests twice online, didn't seem very scientific though). I experience boredom whenever I am forced to do something that is not intellectually stimulating/overly repetitive, or emotionally rewarding. Usually it is always either work related or relationship maintenance, such as social gatherings or upholding my end of a social contract kind of situation. It's usually either mind numbing or unpleasant/miserably time-sucking respectively. Otherwise, I don't have time to be bored, it always seems like too much of a wasteful luxury, and honestly, I don't really know how to be bored when left to my own devices. Though I think I would like to experience boredom under my own terms, like when i retire some day. maybe as an experiment? sounds fun under those circumstances.
I just had a conversation about it with my parents. Infj's doesn't get bored either (me and my father at least). My guess is that Si+Fe doms are usually those who stick in a social events even if they find them boring - the sense of duty combined with consideration for the emotions of the people around them (like my mom).
INTJ - If I ever get "bored" for lack of a better word, and I can't get away from the situation for some reason, I'm in my head thinking about . . . . something. What's next on the to do list. Where I need to do. My grocery list. Something "productive" How can you be bored when you have a mind to use?
I do experience boredom, mostly when I'm stuck in a situation where I cannot do whatever is in my "backlog" and have to wait, and there is nothing else to be done in the meantime. Or when something is pointless. I try not to get up and go to my laptop in social situations; I tend to leave parties early and everyone knows it's fine. But with family there is drama to follow if I leave, so I will totally look at my phone if the conversation has no substance whatsoever, or will "explore the beautiful house for a bit" or "go to the bathroom" because even if it's the same people don't make as much of a big deal out of "discreetly leaving" the room lol. I am quite a restless person in general and I need stuff to do
Great explanation!
i've never really thought of this, cuz i'm intj as well. and yes: down time is planned - to stop the hamster wheel in my head from time to time. that said, there have been times when i was bored: when i was usaf, and i'm subject to someone else's agenda instead of my own. the whole time i'm thinking of all the other stuff i could be doing instead of THIS.
Yes not physically having control will create some differences. For sure!
Besides for boring conversation, I usually get bored when spending "family time" in front of the TV, especially if what's on the TV isn't stimulating for me.
Same. I have no attention for watching shows or movies. Haven’t owned a tv in over 10 years
As an INTJ I experience boredom when I’m forced to take a break (because I have to wait for someone to do something or because I’m sick).
Good point! Being incapacitated makes sometimes even thinking a bit of a challenge
I sorta have a question. My personality certainly governs the way I interact with people (I'm an INTJ), but I've noticed that my priorities change when I'm around my crush. I feel like the ways I begin to care about my social status (I don't know if status is the right word. More like moment to moment impression on her) are in opposition to how I normally view social circumstances. But I certainly know that when I talk to my friend about my feelings and thoughts about my crush then they think I'm very different from most people (and my thoughts seemingly fit my personality type). So I don't know what I'm asking😂. Can I be a certain personality but then have my priorities changed cause I'm "in love" or am I imitating what I perceive my crush's personality to be? Sorry for being rambley.
I've very rarely felt bored.
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My friends are astonished at how I don't get bored. To me there is always something to do and even as a kid if I were forced to be in a quite room with nothing to do there was always something to look at and wonder how it worked or how it was made. However I did experience some boredom as a kid when I was forced into a situation where I wasn't allowed do what I wanted. It also happened because I didn't have the skills to do what I wanted and I think that is key when looking at some children when they are bored.
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from at least 7th grade through college, I would be bored almost to the point of anger if the teacher was talking about something pointless (weather, family vacation, etc) or about info I already knew, unless I something else to read or work on to fill those moments that felt like time theft.
All that is related to the way intj consider time. this ressources is so valuable we can't stay in front of someone spending it like shit.Even if with mbti knowledge i am better at Fe i still consider waste time like crime .when you have a todo list longer than 10× time your own life it make sense.
It also have something to do with enneagram 5 types being always hungry of knowledge And INTJ big Understanding quest you talk about recently.
Btw this ability can lead to sttrugle in giving to our relationship enough time.
Your last point - ahhhhh.
Yes time is the most valuable resource.