The History of Springer: The V-22 Osprey Autobot We Never Got to See
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2023
- During the production of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, many characters were conceptualized as potential candidates to appear in the film. Springer was one such character, and he progressed quite far in production until he was ultimately dropped-so far, in fact, that a few toys were made for him, despite him not appearing in the film! This video delves into the history of this character and how we might actually get to see him again in the foreseeable future!
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It's really a shame Springe was abandoned. I love his design!
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@@amyawolford hi dude how are you
"Springe" 😭😭
This is one of those autobots we would have really wanted to see in the movies.
At least we'll get a concept art toy of him hopefully
I really hope Hasbro does a Studio Series concept art figure of this guy, like what they did with the Bumblebee movie Megatron.
Concept art BB Rumble: Hey you’re forgetting about me!
me waiting for:
rotf: breakaway
dotm: warpath
rotf: osprey
'07: stryker
rotf: buckethead
dotm: steeljaw
'07: arcee
rotf: ransack
rotf: pickup soundwave
Fun fact. His robot fighters toy was green instead of grey.
I honestly prefer it, since it resembles his original-self more
@@BlueDaDudeArtz i like the grey better
i got it 3 times. 2x green 1x grey
@@silverbone4845Green is better. Also the green design is part gray as well, but the green helps him look more unique. AND, Springer is also supposed to be a triple changer
Fun fact:He was originally meant to be stratosphere,and the craziest part about this is that stratosphere wasn't even made up until dotm because I made all of this up.
For me as an aviation fan, it's such a shame he wasn't featured in the movie, I'd love to have a masterpiece figure of him if it got released
Springer being an Osprey would've been amazing to see to see in the film. Not only that, but he also makes way more sense for helping the Autobots get to Egypt opposed to Jetfire just teleporting there. It really gives you insight how unfortunately rushed the film was during its initial production, which meant that many of the concepts that were on the cutting room floor sadly had to be left out, and essentially robbed us of what could've been a sequel that was just as good (if not better) than the first.
IIRC the movie was written during the DGA and SAG Strikes so it was likely that it was rushed along. Apparently it used a "Scriptment" (a treatment with elements of a script) that was esuted by bay himself, which probably explains why it's just so haphazard, scattered, and different in tone compared to the first one.
I think it might've been cooler if Springer killed Starscream in DOTM instead of Sam. It could play out like he was helping NEST soldiers deploy outside the Sears Tower. But as soon he sees screamer, he forces his passengers to bail. He's not quick enough to save the first transport but bodyslams Starscream mid-air before he could get another Osprey. He could then get into a prolonged brawl with the winged demon before finally putting an end to his terror and ending him. He could then fly away and help cover the NEST soldiers
if anyone should have killed starscream it really should have been optimus not sam but that's a cool idea too haosdfi
Humans killing transformers is hard.
@@MogusMasterSaikawa22 hi dude how are you
@@SaraVones oh hello hoaisdf I'm okay I guess XD
@@MogusMasterSaikawa22 ooh ok so can I ask you something please
You gotta give it to Michael Bay, it sounds like he actually enjoyed the franchise in his hands. Tho not to g1 accuracy, he had a blast using a massive arsenal of vehicles and think something we’ve all done before when looking at a one, “that’ll make a damn fine robot”. I doubt we’ll get wild realistic vehicles like these in our collection for a long while.
Jason, I found out about your hospitalization today and also saw the latest update, keep fighting man! You’ve been through a lot and even though you still have quite a bit to go I know you can get through it! Can’t wait to hear from you again soon!
I have another potential reason for going with teleportation over a single Osprey: how would Bee and the Twins have gotten to Egypt? An Osprey can carry quite a few humans, sure, and even smaller bots like Wheelie, but not a single car-sized Autobot, much less three. So they decided the Bots could teleport there with Jetfire... but if he can teleport Autobots, why not humans as well? Springer's primary purpose became unfortunately null.
They could have used Stratosphere instead. They already made a toy for him as part of ROTF line of toys.
But then it wouldn’t be so awesome to see him in Rise of the beasts@@shariqhasan6220
It would've been cool to see Osprey in Transformers Revenge Of The Fallen. He would've been a force to be reckon with on the battlefield. And seeing Mixmaster as an automotive would've been an awesome seen.
Seeing Osprey fight off Starscream in Dark of the Moon would've been awesome as well. And due to Osprey being bigger, Starscream would've gotten his but kicked by him and retreated with more than just a couple of serious wounds
I love the intro of the video. We NEED a video about the history about every bayverse transformers movie or at least up to dark of the moon's production
It's a sneak peak for what's to come 😉
I plan to do an entire production history video for each of the films, but I need to interview lots of people until I can even put it together
Well in that case take your time! We wouldn't want a video to be rushed, your videos are just worth the wait!@@Theorymus
I was going to say that it would have been cool to see Springer and Grindor have a huge battle at some point…
But then I remembered that Grindor literally has the fighting capabilities of a teddy bear, like for half the fight he was literally just a spectator lol
1:57 I always loved this design as it looks pretty good as far as bayformer design go. With it's huge statue, forearm roto-blades, hind-legs pistons and shoulder missile launchers gives the impression that this Cybertronian is a highly-skilled warrior that works closely with nest as evidence by his alt-mode, the Osprey, a Tricopter vechicle made to transport troops from the air to their intended location. Making him useful in carrying Nest troops to locations with Decepticon activity. Since it looks like the Autobots are going to originally have a Helicopter bot antithesis Blackout and Grindor.
I appreciate the tempo of your story. You take a bit more time to tell and therefore it sounds less rushed.
Anytime 👍
He got cut because he has better things to do tonight than die
Hope Hasbro really does revisit Osprey aka Springer for the Studio Series concept art subline. Hopefully as a leader class with the youthful and expressive head from the face study artwork.
Springer would've been amazing to see. However..... I think its best for great characters like springer to not appear in the first trilogy because he'll randomly get killed by small humans with guns in AOE....
He might've had more of a chance of surviving since he had a flight mode, but then again, going off of how AOE turned out, the writers might've just killed him off screen or let him survive but just never show him again like some of the other Autobots that survived Cemetery Wind.
that happens in dotm as well shockwave who's supposedly stronger than megatron gets mangled by human weapons and starscream while not to the same degree as shockwave is damaged by them as well somehow it started there.
@@MogusMasterSaikawa22 tbf Optimus was the one who did a lot of damage to shockwave. And the soldiers weren't the only ones shooting at shockwave, the wreckers also joined in
@@LightningZetton the wreckers shots previously did nothing to shockwave and all optimus did was rip a chunk off shockwaves side and rip his eye out all the other damage came from the humans
I love chicken-legged mechs so I'm sad that Springer wasn't brought to life on the silver screen like Tacit Ronin and ED-209. I presume that he was cut because Jetfire's massive engines looked cooler on a resurrected Optimus Prime than Springer's smaller Osprey engines.
Besides, Springer's engines are his forearms. Optimus would look like a psychopath if he's resurrected with a pair of his dead friend's arms dangling in his back.
Very sad for Springer to left out, heck him fighting Starscream would’ve been EPICALLY choreographed, and one of the standout fight scenes in ALL OF THE BAYVERSE!!!!
I can imagine Osprey and Blackout/Grindor having a rivalry with one another
Osprey Springer's design looking Fire i love it! 🔥🔥🔥
Imagine how different the bayverse movies would've been if he was actually added.
Wow, I can't believe he hasn't posted in 3 months. He must be waiting for the new Transformers Animated movie. Or he could be thinking of some new theories. He might be reading our comments just to find a good theory. That's my guess.
Sadly not he has health problems 😢
There has to be a studio series of this character
HELL YEAH!
I have waited months upon months for you to cover this. Depthcharge and Springer were one of the best designs spawned from ROTF.
Praying you make it through man! Just saw about your hospitalization. Till all are one! You got this!
Awesome bro
Keep on theories 😎👍
Thanks! Will do!
The concept art reminds me of the characters from the tie in games I don't know why but it just looks like one of those characters that weren't in the films
You have to make a sideswipe what if he survived
I actually think that springer was in the films, I just think he was one of the ospreys from TLK, because it was right next to the main autobot gang or behind Drift at 4:59 or it could be possible that he was in the films and secretly appeared in dark of the moon like your earlier astrotrain video as the subway train (amazing video btw)or maybe the osprey that carries Cade Yeager, or that other Osprey that was flying next the hound and Bumblebee, it could mean he was in the films, but thats up to the theorymus to decide
good vid bro
Dude having Springer in Dark Of The Moon helping NEST in Chicago would have been awesome to see.
I Love your videos it is so amazing
Thanks!
@Theorymus! Now that I am expanding the Knightverse with my 2007 rewrite, any Autobots or Decepticons you want to see as cameos or references? Here are the main characters:
Autobots
Optimus Prime - Transforms into a red and blue 1987 Freightliner FLA semi truck, includes silver trailer that can transform into robot mode or transform into portable armory similar to DOTM.
Bumblebee - Transforms into yellow and black 1977 Chevrolet Camaro with all-terrain extensions from ROTB.
Arcee - Transforms into white and pink Ducati 916 motorcycle.
Elita-1 - Transforms into pink and silver 1994 Peterbilt 379 semi truck.
Ratchet - Transforms into white and red 1984 Nissan Vanette ambulance.
Wheeljack - Transforms into white, red and green 1976 Lancia Stratos Turbo race car
Jazz - Transforms into white, blue and red Porsche 935 Turbo RSR
Cliffjumper (rebuilt and revived by Ratchet, Wheeljack and Optimus Prime in 1995) - Transforms into red and gray 1972 Dodge Challenger
Ironhide - Transforms into red and black 1992 Hummer H1 Wagon.
Humans
Mikaela Banes
Sam “Spike” Witwicky
William Lennox
Decepticons
Megatron - First transforms into gray M1A1 Abrams tank, later transforms into white and black experimental hover tank.
Starscream - Transforms into gray, red and blue F-15 Eagle
Thundercracker - Transforms into blue and red F-15 Eagle
Skywarp - Transforms into black and purple F-15 Eagle
Shockwave - Transforms into a purple and gray repair van
Soundwave - Transforms into armored military truck
Slipstream - Transforms into purple and blue F-15 Eagle
Blitzwing (rebuilt in 1995 by Shockwave into a G1-inspired design with 3 personalities from Animated) - Transforms into purple, yellow and beige F-15 Eagle
Airachnid - First transforms into black and purple sports car, later transforms into experimental hover bike.
Nice video as always Theorymus.
Thanks!
Always saw his concept art and firestorm concept and thought DAMN! WHY SUCH COOL AND EXCITING ONED HAD TO BE CUT BUT THX FOR YOUR VIDEO
If they do make SS Rotf Springer then they should make the Mainline the grey version with the visorless face and the Exclusive the toy accurate version (complete with alt head with a visor)
Yes I've been waiting for this ever since you announced it. And good morning.
Thanks man, and good morning 👍
I imagine him and Breakaway would be good friends 😄
What happened to his videos😢
Me: 'Trying to find info for my Bayverse Iceberg Chart'
Theorymus: "I gotchu homie!"
Heck yea!
This was an Incredible Video for The Transformers Film Series Version of Springer. It’s a Shame That he was deleted.
Anytime, I'm glad you enjoyed 🤘
Love you vids so much ❤🤖
❤ Thanks dude that means a lot!
His robot mode was used for RotF Blazemaster albeit different color and vehicle mode
Springers concept art was used as a base for deluxe class Blazemaster
I would have loved to have seen this Springer in the Revenge of the Fallen movie. Him vs Starscream would have been epic.
I've never know there was a character, Springer til now😮
question for theorymus
can a transformer just gain the ability to fly
like can they scan a aircraft and suddenly be able to fly
can a transformer get extra limbs
like bonecrusher
did he originally had 2 arms?
if a transformer is a flying bot and they scan a ground vehicle can they change the ground vehcile in a way to fly
so become a triple changer?
can transformers(if lost enough parts) use parts of other vehicles
like human vehicles ( and not using parts of other transformers)
and use it on their own body
so they lost an arm
and that arm was the hoodthe right wheel axis and the the bottom right side of the car
can the transformer take those exact parts and put it on themselves and use it?
if a transfromer loses a vital piece of their vehicles parts
so like a part of the engine or the brakes
can they still use there vehicle mode as usual
like can they still brake and drive even though they dont have the engine nor the brakes
i know bots dont require the ability to breath
but ccan they suddenly become a underwater transformer
and how long can a transformer get
so like they scan a train
will the bot have to grow to fit that size?
can transformers suddenyl get superweapons like the mixmaster clone
can they rip off that weapon from the clone and use it fix it to themselves
can transformers gain weight?
like hound
is it hes personality
or did he choose it to be like that?
and can they lose it
so like lets say if blackout scanned the vehicle that grindor scanned
will he get smaller or will hes vehicle mode get bigger?
and can transformer significantly compress there vehicle mode parts
( as an example dont take this as a cannon or soemthing0
so like lets say blackout can he compress hes vehicle mode and turn into a much much smaller helicopter
so like a news helicopter or something
Dude, you gotta make a video covering many bayformers all REUSED scene and footage. There's like... Alot, and i mean ALOT.
Maybe in a future transformers sequel, we'll get springer in live action. Hopefully.
Imagine how insane that fight between Starscream and Osprey would be. They would fight and eventually Starscream will be the victor of that fight. Or maybe alternately, Osprey would win and that can be a new way of explaining how Starscream's head is intact in TF The Last Knight. Just a few fun thoughts
hey theorymus, just thought i’d pop in and share something really cool i noticed in the transformers 2 forest battle scene, when optimus goes over starscream, optimus throws his sword at grindor which hits him in the leg, if you wanna notice, look at grindors left leg during that scene
Getting the Megatron concept art to toy form is already an amazing thing that the designers did. If we get more concept toys for characters that wern't in the movies and I think osprey is a better name than springer in my opinion
I think it would have been better to make him a decepticon and have him fight in the forest battle instead of reusing a bigger and rusty Blackout model and calling him Grindor, he even has that little propeller weapon on his hand
Awesome vid bro
How did it take me this long to realise there's only a singular quad rotor Osprey among the dual rotors
Fun fact, it also appears in TLK!
Cool video dude
That's was amazing video theorymus prime it would be cool to see Springer in the movies or the games but I'm glad you told us about this character I don't know he existed in the movies so thanks for explaining it theorymus prime love your video theorymus prime ❤️👍
Image if Osprey/Spinger would be the one to merge with Optimus prime.
The decepticons would have no chance against Optimus Primes deck of missiles.
Epic video!!❤❤
Can’t wait for more epic amazing content!!!
That head design is so freaking cool!
Hi theorymus I have a question for you. Are you ever going to make any more weapon locker videos? Also are there going to be any more what if I survived?
Also you made a good point with that jet fire part
I definitely plan to bring back weapon locker at some point, and possibly the what if I survived series as well
@@Theorymus Ok thanks for the information
very good video
I think you should make a video about what happened to sam witwicky and one about every transformer in the bayfomers and the reboot universe
Can u do a video on which version of optimus prime is the strongest
Hi theory love your videos
Thanks!
Man I really love the bayverse I would love to see him on the big screen
Really awesome to see this was designed by Ben Procter, he designed a huge chunk if not all of the vehicles in Avatar The Way of Water.
Before you even mentioned Bruticus i immediately thought of that.
Yoooo i remember you! I remember spamming video suggestions!
I guess you can say, Springer was feeling “springy”.
I love his videos.
Springer’s design in the bay verse I consider as my favourite obscure character. It’s such a unique design and I love the mini figure! Also I found a repaint of the mini figure called blade, he had a white and red repaint
Fun fact: Springer love arcee (yes you heard right: Springer dating arcee)
7:58 that would be sick ngl! And also i kinda wish he was in the movie so he can fight Bkackout/Grindor but it wouldn't make sense
Will there ever be more what if I survived videos?
Hi I remember watching your videos when I was like 7 or 8
can you make more of the what if I survived series? That was basically the best series ever. If you do can you do sideswipe or maybe jolt
I realy want to see this in Studio Series, another something to note ROTF blazemaster toy seams to be inspired by ospreys robot mode with the split cockpit chest, thing thigh chicken legs, wide shoulders with props on the arm as a weapon and the tail of the helicopter folded onto the back visible as like a back plate
I need him in future studio series concept art figure releases with his g1 colors
My son loves ur vids! He wants you to make a video on what would happen if lockdown survived? And what would happen if brawl survived?
*7:35** DOTM EMO MUDFLAP CONCEPT ART ON THE TOP RIGHT*
Hey, Theorymus. I know you read your comments, and that you take them into consideration.. but I want you to read this. I’ve always wondered where Sam and his family, etc were when transformers became illegal on earth? Since we don’t really get any confirmation. I don’t watch your channel as much as I used to.. so I don’t know if you already made a video on this, but my peanut brain can’t really make too much theories, so it would be great if you could explain it! Thanks if you do take this into consideration.
Springers design looks like an Autobot Blackout
Imagine if they would make a studio series osprey concept
I'm sad we didn't get any aireal bots.
Get well brother have you in my prayers 🙏🏾
Aerialbots and protectobots were abandoned too, they showed up in the video game and phew of them made it to toys.
Btw. I miss that size toys, 3in tall
I was wondering if u could do a video on why were only the decepticons got resurrected on the moon and not the autobots in dark of the moon
Theorymus can you do a “what if I survived” Optimus in TF2 cause that would change a LOT and I’m wondering what would’ve happened?
I really hope they make a figure for him and seaspray in the concept line, that would be fricking amazing!
Video 3 or 4 of asking what if the fallen survived
Damn imagine a Grindor vs Springer/Osprey fight, Heli vs Heli!
I have that springer toy, plus the white a red version. Had it for so long I forgot who it actually was
I got a good vid idea for you: is the DOTM game actually canon to the previous games or to the respective movie?
I mean it sets the movie up perfectly and explains how shockwave got to earth so I’d say yes
I have plans to cover that!
It makes sense for Jetfire to have teleportation because he was created by the fallen and was a seeker before the fallen was defeated.
I like springer to bad he wasn’t in the film
Plus they could repurpose the Incenerator toy, just rework him so he has usable hands. And for the head, add special targeting glasses.