Brilliant video! Literally the biggest issue with digital is it sounds harsh and often piercing live. I invested in a kemper and tried it. For months I’ve thought oh dear what have i done and have contemplated selling it. I Watched your video made some adjustments and then cranked it up through pa speakers, what a difference!! Looking forward to our next rehearsal to see how it sounds at volume in the mix.
@@robbojaffa Thank you so much for taking the time to comment on the video, I’m so pleased you found it useful….please check out my other Kemper related video which has a couple of additional useful tips👍🎸
@ what i’m finding is the kemper does so much that it’s too much to understand what each thing actually does individually. Also i’ve come to the conclusion that for the purposes of knowing if you sound good in a pa an frfr and in ears are useless as they give you a completely false impression of your sound. Im doing all my setup now using a normal wedge monitor (similar characteristics to a FOH) or using a pa speaker. And after your video doing it at volume! 😂
@ the Kemper is definitely a complex piece of kit but when tweaking a profile, I tend to just focus on the EQ parameters mentioned in the video, otherwise it’s very easy to overcomplicate things and spend more time tweaking than playing 😀. Once I’ve EQ’d my profiles at gig volume through my Yamaha DXR10 Powered monitor, they don’t usually then require any further adjustment on any any of the FOH systems I get to play through.
Fletcher munson should be at the top of every instruction manual for modelers.. i went years and years without understanding it, and so many people get shit tones because they don't know about it.
Hey, If I were to use a cabinet to push some air behind on un powered toaster, How donwe go about that? Also, If am using IR's live and going into FOH what output settings are we to look at? During rehearsals, if it's just monitors we're going into what output selection do we choose? Thanks.
Hi and here are my thoughts on your 3 questions: As you have an unpowered toaster, if you want to use a regular guitar cab as a monitor, you'll need a power amp of some sort (e.g. Seymour Duncan Powerstage). Connect the monitor out of the Kemper to the power amp and then power amp -> cab. You can then use the Master Monitor EQ section of the Kemper to shape the sound coming out of the cab (if required). When going direct to FOH, I have my Master High Cut set to 5khz and Low Cut set to 80hz but if you 're using external IR's, I'd probably set the High and Low cut flat as the IR's will probably have a similar effect. If they're regular PA style monitors, it's no different to running to FOH.....i.e. take an XLR from the Kemper Main Out into the monitor, you can then use the Master EQ section in the Kemper to adjust the sound coming from the monitors. Hope that helps.
Respectfully, the FM effect your talking about plays a minuscule if any part in what you are experiencing. What you are experiencing is the vast sound quality differences between studio monitors and PA speakers. . They are equed to sound "enjoyable" or if you are in a decent venue they are tuned to sound seasonably flat in the room. That will likely never result in hearing your guitar the way you want to hear it. The cheaper the speaker, the worse the sound is. Your Kemper will sound different through any speaker or headphones because they are are tuned differently.
@@StereoAnthony Thanks for your comment and I take your point but respectfully I still believe the Fletcher Munson effect is the main reason for the difference in sound between home and gig volume and here’s why…. In the early days of having a Kemper I set my rigs up in my home studio and EQ’d them to sound good though my Yamaha DXR10, a PA speaker. I then went to a rehearsal studio and played those rigs through exactly the same DXR10 speaker at gig volume and they all had a significant spike around 3k and sounded thin. I then applied the EQ logic outlined in my video and the rigs then sounded good through the DXR10 at gig volume…..and because of the EQ settings I applied, the rigs also then sounded good through the vast majority of PA systems that I get to use. So, whilst I agree that the quality of speakers certainly has a part to play, my personal experience suggests to me that the FM effect is the main reason for the difference in sound between home volume and gig volume. Regards.
False. I have struggled for years and finally i understand fletcher munson is the cause for WILD tonal differences at different volumes. I know this because if you play out a PA at low volume, vs high volume, you immediatly hear it.
@ Totally agree, if I EQ my Kemper profiles at ‘loud home’ volume through my Yamaha DXR10 and then play the same profiles through the same speaker at rehearsal volume the difference is huge….in particular I notice a significant increase in the 3khz region…..and this is what I was trying to explain in the video.
Brilliant video!
Literally the biggest issue with digital is it sounds harsh and often piercing live.
I invested in a kemper and tried it. For months I’ve thought oh dear what have i done and have contemplated selling it.
I Watched your video made some adjustments and then cranked it up through pa speakers, what a difference!!
Looking forward to our next rehearsal to see how it sounds at volume in the mix.
@@robbojaffa Thank you so much for taking the time to comment on the video, I’m so pleased you found it useful….please check out my other Kemper related video which has a couple of additional useful tips👍🎸
@ what i’m finding is the kemper does so much that it’s too much to understand what each thing actually does individually.
Also i’ve come to the conclusion that for the purposes of knowing if you sound good in a pa an frfr and in ears are useless as they give you a completely false impression of your sound.
Im doing all my setup now using a normal wedge monitor (similar characteristics to a FOH) or using a pa speaker. And after your video doing it at volume! 😂
@ the Kemper is definitely a complex piece of kit but when tweaking a profile, I tend to just focus on the EQ parameters mentioned in the video, otherwise it’s very easy to overcomplicate things and spend more time tweaking than playing 😀. Once I’ve EQ’d my profiles at gig volume through my Yamaha DXR10 Powered monitor, they don’t usually then require any further adjustment on any any of the FOH systems I get to play through.
@ which of course is the desired result! Fingers crossed 🤞
just what most kempers need to know when playing live, absolutely brilliant discipition on running your kemper live
@@brianleecooper1814 thanks Brian, very much appreciated 👍
Excellent video. 👋👋👋👍
@@guitartoneSA thank you, very much appreciated 👍
Fletcher munson should be at the top of every instruction manual for modelers.. i went years and years without understanding it, and so many people get shit tones because they don't know about it.
@@themusketeer9458 totally agree 👍
Hey, If I were to use a cabinet to push some air behind on un powered toaster, How donwe go about that?
Also, If am using IR's live and going into FOH what output settings are we to look at? During rehearsals, if it's just monitors we're going into what output selection do we choose?
Thanks.
Hi and here are my thoughts on your 3 questions:
As you have an unpowered toaster, if you want to use a regular guitar cab as a monitor, you'll need a power amp of some sort (e.g. Seymour Duncan Powerstage).
Connect the monitor out of the Kemper to the power amp and then power amp -> cab.
You can then use the Master Monitor EQ section of the Kemper to shape the sound coming out of the cab (if required).
When going direct to FOH, I have my Master High Cut set to 5khz and Low Cut set to 80hz but if you 're using external IR's, I'd probably set the High and Low cut flat as the IR's will probably have a similar effect.
If they're regular PA style monitors, it's no different to running to FOH.....i.e. take an XLR from the Kemper Main Out into the monitor, you can then use the Master EQ section in the Kemper to adjust the sound coming from the monitors.
Hope that helps.
@@HD-ok1kg - Thanks for getting back. That helps. I'll try these out.
For rehearsal, these are floor monitors, so from Master EQ, tweak settings?
@@ajayburra6958 yes, that would be my approach 👍
@@HD-ok1kg- Great. I'll check these out. For some reason master output section shows Kemper Kone. I'll check.
Respectfully, the FM effect your talking about plays a minuscule if any part in what you are experiencing.
What you are experiencing is the vast sound quality differences between studio monitors and PA speakers. . They are equed to sound "enjoyable" or if you are in a decent venue they are tuned to sound seasonably flat in the room. That will likely never result in hearing your guitar the way you want to hear it. The cheaper the speaker, the worse the sound is. Your Kemper will sound different through any speaker or headphones because they are are tuned differently.
@@StereoAnthony
Thanks for your comment and I take your point but respectfully I still believe the Fletcher Munson effect is the main reason for the difference in sound between home and gig volume and here’s why….
In the early days of having a Kemper I set my rigs up in my home studio and EQ’d them to sound good though my Yamaha DXR10, a PA speaker. I then went to a rehearsal studio and played those rigs through exactly the same DXR10 speaker at gig volume and they all had a significant spike around 3k and sounded thin. I then applied the EQ logic outlined in my video and the rigs then sounded good through the DXR10 at gig volume…..and because of the EQ settings I applied, the rigs also then sounded good through the vast majority of PA systems that I get to use.
So, whilst I agree that the quality of speakers certainly has a part to play, my personal experience suggests to me that the FM effect is the main reason for the difference in sound between home volume and gig volume.
Regards.
Absolutely agree with that!!!
False. I have struggled for years and finally i understand fletcher munson is the cause for WILD tonal differences at different volumes. I know this because if you play out a PA at low volume, vs high volume, you immediatly hear it.
@ Totally agree, if I EQ my Kemper profiles at ‘loud home’ volume through my Yamaha DXR10 and then play the same profiles through the same speaker at rehearsal volume the difference is huge….in particular I notice a significant increase in the 3khz region…..and this is what I was trying to explain in the video.