Tiny PC, Big Value | AM02 Pro
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2024
- Testing the sub-$300 Ryzen 7 5700U-powered AM02 Pro Mini PC in gaming, 3D rendering & video editing
Thanks to Kamrui for supplying the review unit.
Continuing the saga of Iceberg mini PC reviews, this one sits firmly in the middle of the pack - with almost as much energy efficiency of the low end N100-based units, but performance that can compete with more expensive units. It's biggest appeal is its price, which while already discounted with Amazon vouchers, can be had for 5% cheaper using these codes (US and UK only)
UK Link: bit.ly/47eRUt2
UK discount code: XDA5QOCY
US Link: bit.ly/3vpZbco
US discount code: R2C3JA66
Specs as provided:
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
Radeon Integrated Graphics (Vega 8)
16GB DDR4-3200 (2x8GB)
512GB NVMe Gen 3 SSD
Music by Backing Track backingtrack.gg/
Track names: "Future Tomorrow", “Binary Sunrise”, “Midnight Racer” & "Starstream Returns"
and as always, Unicorn Heads "808 Doorbell Chime"
00:00 NiPoGi/Kamrui AM02 Pro
00:33 Ryzen 7 5700U
01:20 Price
01:33 Specs
01:59 Connectivity
03:06 Synthetic Benchmarks
05:02 Productivity Benchmarks
06:26 Gaming Benchmarks
09:51 Emulation
10:43 Power Consumption & Conclusion
A D S
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G E A R
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Video:
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C O N T A C T
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#Ryzen #miniPC - Наука та технологія
It has come to light that some models of Acemagic/Kamrui/NiPoGi brand mini PCs have been known to flag virus warnings in Windows Defender.
Acemagic have released an official statement that is worth reading for anyone who owns or is considering buying this brand of PC: www.acemagic.com/blogs/about-ace-mini-pc/acemagic-mini-pc-virus-incident-comprehensive-resolution-and-future-security-measures
Rip “X” 💀
NOT X!!!!! I miss him dearly already.
volkswagen gti 5?🤣 9:04
What happened to our homie X?
Rip "x"
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I love these modern day mini pcs, really wanna pick one up someday just for the low power performance alone. Thank you for covering these :)
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I have bought one from trigkey with 5800h, 32gb ram, 1tb nvme ssd and added an external 5700xt through the NVMe adapter. It had some issues like the drivers constantly wiping one another and sometimes the WiFi card just “died”, but nothing I could not fix. Total cost was under 500$, ideal for student on a tight budget needing a gaming and also editing rig. I since passed this cardboard abomination to my younger brother this Christmas and replaced it with a Alienware with 5900x, 32 gb ram and a rx 6900 xt for a little over $1000 after tax and shipping on eBay. I am living great life rn in the US, I am happier than I have ever been home in the EU and your content contributes a lot.
I really like bargain hunting for these mini PCs, theyre always a joy!
These older ones are starting to get close to the bottom of the price stack. for 279 pounds, its really close to a barebones 6800u or 6800h miniPC
Although, storage, RAM and an OS does account for a lot in that.
I only paid 380 dollars for a mini with a 6800h with 16gb ram and 500gb ssd, and according to conversion rates that's pretty close to 279 pounds.
@@grumpywolfgaming thats one heck of a deal, I presume thats shipped and after tax right?
9:25 Kryzzp ain´t gonna be happy bout that💀
It makes me really sad when HDMI or Displayport versions are not mentioned on these products and you have to go scouring the specific chip behind it to see if its DP 1.4, or HDMI 2.1 vs 2.0
You posted this twice once this, and the other time with the title "X". And the repost is getting more attention😂
he did take down the video, i think it was to test something, maybe to check if the video had any copyright strikes
@@mr.pumpkin8891 Probably that
That glitch on CEMU proabably was the async shader compilation, only happens once for every shader.
This looks like the perfect replacement for my aging Plex server, just as you mentioned. I repurposed an old Lenovo i5-5200u powered lappy as a media server but its power usage under load is much too high (60-70 watts) for my tastes and the coil whine from the cpu fan is driving the dog mental. Thanks for the comprehensive review.
the upcoming Ryzen 7 8700G is looking to be more of a compelling APU for a mini pc
Yeah, but also in a different price class
And a different mini class, almost 2x the volume for decent cooling.
yeah if this 5700U is having heat issues in that small box, the 8700G would roast without a much larger case, heatsink and fans. Which would drive the already much higher costs even higher. While this was like less than 300, a comparable setup with the 8700G might be triple that.
It'd be real epic when those M1 Ultra level of APU comes out.
As limited in terms of expansion those mini PCs are, their miniature design sure has their charm.
Hopefully there'd be more integrated solutions for those miniPCs to have some more external expansions such as fitting hard drive boxes or what not
rumors thats what dragonrange is
Nah. I'm referring to Strix Halo, and maybe also Intel's counterpart, as Intel does pretty decently in graphics department with this Ultra lineup, that the hope is still up, kinda maybe.
Those are the single package with discrete graphics sized integrated GPU, basically comparable to mid-range gaming system on the chip alone.
I just got an Ayaneo AM01, which seems to be basically the same, in a nice shell. It's a lovely little system. Running a good bit higher TDP though!
Honestly thought of getting one of these and making a Frankienstiened laptop out of it. I do not regret not doing that.
As I type this, the AMZN US price for this with coupon is $270. For about $30 more you can get a Beelink SER5 5600H, which isn't hugely faster but has great build quality (aluminum case, etc). I've only had one Kamrui, which I returned as it was badly made plastic. I assume they've stepped up their game if you were impressed with this one.
This model has pretty good build quality, a mix of decent quality plastic and metal. I’m testing a cheaper Kamrui at the moment though, and it’s definitely as you describe- cheaper plastics, strong chemical smell.
The 5600H model I would expect would outperform the 5700U model by quite a bit. Assuming the cooling solution could handle it the TDP of the 5600H is listed as 35-54 W even though its a 6 core. Even at the low end of 35 W that should handily beat the 15W 5700U.
"USB type A-hole" is definitly becoming part of my vernacular
i like the music you ad to your vids
X was performing so well!
I wish there was more upfront transparency that this was a sponsored video.
Hey iceberg tech I have a question. So I’ve been hearing a lot about the gt 210 and gt 710 and fx 5200 which one should I buy? I heard all of these cards are some of the best on the market being able to run Alan Awake 2 with all the ray tracing on at around 180-200fps at ultra in 6k and it’s able to run Crysis. Which one should I buy?
At the same 25W, the Zen 4 7840U can manage over 12k on CBR23 Mulitcore - 61% faster than Zen 2 5700U.
to be fair though, it's more than double the price
Meh, you can get a 6800u that does almost the same as a 7840u
you could use universal tuning utility to control the tdp but the thermals might go above 90c
You get 5500U 14" Notebooks new for about the same, used for way less.
Identical use case, but with all the bells and whistles and mobile.
This little box makes sense for less than 150 in whatever money, thats it.
5700u seems to be more common now than when it was released - there are a few minis out there with this chip now. Nice to see it becoming a cheap alternative to the N100 - would be a better match for the N300, but they don't exist in this format
We are at the age where a little box that you can mount to the back of a monitor for £300 makes redundant all basic full size office PCs, and you can play a few games on it in your lunch break.
I'm putting this here because it's relevant to buyers who are looking for Compute power on a very low TDP and who want to focus on RAM-intensive and Compute-intensive tasks:
I can confirm based on manufacturer specifications of the Mini PC (AM02 Pro, Multiple Vendor, Single Manufacturer), that it DOES take 64GB of DDR4 Memory. I have upgraded mine with a 64GB (2x32GB) Corsair Vengeance 2933MHz DDR4 Kit because I plan to use this for programming and light cases when not in need of my larger PC.
The Ryzen 7 5700U is limited to 32GB only in laptop vendors, it seems, and AMD has made no official max memory support to my knowledge with it being vendor-specific instead. For buyers of this PC, if you need COMPUTE and RAM for tasks over any graphics workloads, this will do well.
The fact that you can play games newer than a a half decade old AT ALL with a 15W sub $300 rig is crazy.
The fact that it can probably run basically anything from 2015 back at an acceptable framerate just doubles that.
Hell, I'm tempted to get a couple of them just to put on older relatives houses as basic office PCs that the kids might get some (reasonable) fun with too. And that's for zen2. Intel charges a pretty large premium for this performance and Apple aside, ARM is not even in the game.
I think it is worth a shot to up the TDP with universal x86 tuning utility
I need a home media type of deal I think this would rock for taht
Didn't like this one, not much passion or whatever. But it's fair it wasn't a world changing product, just a normal gotta get that bill paid off review. You're still one of the better ppl covering this area of tech, keep up the good work.
It is quite big actually
I'd love to have a mini pc, but I have to be able to connect 4 SATA drives.
Sure, there are dock stations for drives, but they are not reliable, not compact (I only have 2.5" drives), probably high latency, not enough slots, and pricey.
I would not really expect a thunderbolt port based on what else is generally available at this price.
I can also get a few N100 boxes closer to half the discounted price of this one.
Not bad for what it is but I don't see it being that popular.
I would really like to get these in my country but sadly they are very expensive or not available entirely. :,-)
Damn. My boy really leveled up, Iceberg Tech is actually a decent size channel now. 2k views within and hour, I remember when his entire vids had 2k 🥲.
The catch is literally the ancient vega graphics in it lol
Do a video on the Xeon Gold 6138, $30 for 20 Skylake cores @3.7ghz
Also Big Socket LGA 3647 is big pp.
@2:08 you said A-holes. 😎
I waiting to get one or two of these with the right spec to price ratio to squirrel away as an emergency emulation box.
I would've gotten this from amazon uk, but I live in The Netherlands, and ever since the silly brexit the import fees are ruining deals like this.
Can get 120 off, so down from 400 to 280, but then import taxes puts it back up to 440 euros.
Sadly it ain't on dutch amazon, so I guess I'll skip.
Edit: their other models also got discounts it seems, 70-90 vouchers to apply on discount, so I can't get the 5700u model, but the 5500u model is.
Edit2: even though the performance isn't crazy, if you consider that it's doing all of that at just 15watts total and around 300 bucks in such a small form factor, I think it's insane.
Best 5700G
16G 3200mhz
1TB 7000MBS WINDOWS
1TB 7000 MBS GAMES & PROGRAMES
WOULD BE A PERFECT MIX..
MINI PC 'S ARE AWESOOME.
2:07 did he say USB Type A-Holes? :D
No, I think you imagined it
02:08 @@IcebergTech
After watching this video, I recommend you to unlock the TDP for more power
Also, hat 5700U slower than my 5600H ones
Probably a great Media PC with lIght gaminG duties at that price
I can’t wait till hawkpoint comes to mini PC’s
That will be the APU to get
RX 780m graphics, 12 CU’s
Zen 4, 8 core 16 threaded processor
Even at 25 watts, it would perform around a RX 470 and if it is allowed up to 45 watts, it likely could OC enough to beat a RX 570 handedly
That’s enough for any competitive shooter on the market rn
Who knows, Strix Halo might come to mini PC’s with strange configurations
For that price go for 7735HS, it's 67% faster and less laptop-like bottlenecked
X is no longer available so I had to watch this one.
Did they actually release a new mini-pc with an EOL Vega 8?
Nah, this ain’t new. I think they’re probably just putting them on promo for New Year sales.
It scores 900 points more than my 8700, @65w with 2400mhz 32gb ram on cinebench, im kinda impressed lol
2:04 "usb 3 type a holes" 💀💀
For that price, this is actually not all that bad tbh. It's basically a full modern PC for under $300 that doesn't perform like trash. There's very little you can complain about at that price point.
Any reason why this video is duplicated under the Title X.
the mini pc sponsers got iceberg too :(
Its a shame it doesnt have support for external GPUs. This would be one hell of a buy if it did.
Thunderbolt is owned by Intel so I would be surprised if an AMD PC had it, lol.
Though with Thunderbolt 3 spec being used for USB 4 you could get it kinda that way (at least possible for USB 4 to be interoperable with Thunderbolt 3).
There are AMD boards with thunderbolt.
@@grumpywolfgaming really rare but yes it is possible with a dedicated chip to control the thunderbolt port but with USB 4 I would think it is going to be even rarer.
Can it run warcraft, world of tanks, warthunder?
Got the same chip, the 4800U. Pretty decent. I got mine in one of these Lenovo ThinkPads; like one of the very few laptops you can get without all the expensive, price-gauging useless gadgets for less than a grand with decent RAM and no superfluous dGPU. Has been the perfect work laptop for 4 years.
Still a shame AMD just couldn't help themselves and try to mislead the ever living out of their consumers with those stupid laptop chip names. The entire mobile market is out to get you, and they can f right off.
gamer advice please 900p or fsr ?
480p
@@ZERARCHIVE2023 lol
We are close to Zen5. Zen2 is horribly outdated.
I would prefer a used Optiplex, ProDesk or similar office mini PCs over this.
9:27 What does Jack have against you? 💀
9:24 Look! Jack's butt!
I wish AMD had an apu that packs like rx 6600ish level of performance with 3d vcache and 6 zen 4 cores which is pretty fast and efficient. I mean a lot of laptops and these mini pc's would go with that configuration and the gpu part of the equation for the apus would start to make sense. Not being able to get at least 60 fps in fire strike in 2024 is just waste. Unless you need a really heavy cpu task to be handled all the time and no gpu requirement, that thing makes no sense.
Huh huh huh, huh, you said A holes, huh huh.
You compared 1gb version of GT 710 which is inferior
> old cpu
> big value
If that was a sponsor video, it failed.
I think it would be better to wait for Intel's Meteor Lake to start shipping in these smaller cases just because of the superior APU in them.
*GPU not APU
Meteor Lake is garbage though, it doesn't even outperform 7040. Much less AMD's next gen.
310 dollars tax to get it to my place💀
I hope you didn't actually killed Jack..
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@@IcebergTech I hope Kryzzp did not see that😅😆
GT 710 2GB DDR5 vs HD 630 please 🥺
30W tdp and it would have been good.
My 2014 laptop with an i5 4200U and GT840m seems to be better at gaming than this.
3 USB A hole 😂😂😂
Now that Nvidia has officially killed PC gaming, computers like this are a lot more appealing.
Ahhh yes,X
Duplicate posting lol x
was this video sponsored?
X 😂
wow your hands are hairy
Tge thing i don't like about these are that they are so stupidly expensive.
These PC's are loaded with spyware 😮😅
Where did you hear that?
@@IcebergTech can't quite put my mind on this, but I've read about Ace Magic pc's
lol 5700... snore next
I think 5000u powered mini pcs should die out and let the 6000 and 7000u series take it place Vega is a dying platform and the RDNA2/3 apus are newer/stronger
lol 450 euro i can build a decent pc for that money.
mini pcs way overpriced dont know where your getting sub 300 price from
You kind late ... 7840HS are far better ...
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I wouldn't pay more than £150 for a mini PC like this. Terrible performance.
Worst than Xbox Series S for gaming, and on par with a 6 years old, tired laptop in general computing use.
Can build a better desktop PC from 10 years old hardware parts.
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i don´t get why mini pcs are "trendy" right now? anyways, have fun with upgrading your "paid promotion"
Slower than an N100 💀
In which benchmark?
h264 encoding@@IcebergTech though obviously superior in every other way. I guess N100 has Quick Sync, maybe?
@@IcebergTech I know it's a single benchmark, but it stood out to me as a video editor. I fastidiously follow your charts because not everyone has these comparisons and I find your charts super useful with realistic hardware.
“x” repost has officially been removed.
Just buy an ASROCK Deskmini and whack in some decent SODIMM RAM, SSD and a 3400g/4300ge from CEX
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