Good, actually | Intel i5 12400F
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Testing the Intel Core i5-12400F six core 12-thread CPU in 10 popular and demanding games in 2024, using an RX 6900 XT discrete GPU.
Perhaps as a side effect of being in the PC enthusiast bubble, I’m guilty of ignoring the Intel i5-12400F. Whether for its lack of E-cores or multiplier overclocking, there’s something about the vanilla i5s that just makes them seem boring. Well, after randomly buying one on a whim, I can tell you that it’s… really good, actually.
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00:00 Intel i5 12400F in 2024
00:49 The Story of the Intel i5 12400F
02:34 Test System
03:11 Gaming Benchmarks
03:14 Benchmarks: Valorant
04:08 Benchmarks: Fortnite
04:50 Benchmarks: Counter Strike 2
05:28 Benchmarks: Call of Duty: Warzone
06:06 Benchmarks: Starfield
06:45 Benchmarks: Cyberpunk 2077
07:32 Benchmarks: The Last of Us
08:16 Benchmarks: Dragon’s Dogma 2
09:13 Benchmarks: Jedi Survivor
09:52 Benchmarks: Civilization VI
10:13 Synthetics: 3DMark Fire Strike & Time Spy
10:21 Synthetics: CPU-Z & Cinebench R23
10:35 Productivity Test: Davinci Resolve
10:52 Productivity Test: Blender
11:11 Conclusion
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7:50 I meant to say FSR Performance, not Quality
Is it just me or 12th gen i5s and r5 5600s are aging quite well? Even the 12100 is still cooking
i3 was never any future proof. My previous CPU (in 2019) was 9100F; it didn't last long.
@@korosoid theres never any future proofing with pc hardware. You get what you need when you can.
@@korosoid older i3s for sure with the lack of HT. But the newer ones are beyond capable despite only being quad cores. Hopefully intel doesn't give up on the i3 line unlike amd who completely dropped the ball on r3 after the 3100
Thats because the 13th and 14th Gen Intel CPUs are basically the same but beefed and clocked up a little bit.
That's because they still have a reasonable amount of threads (speaking of the 6 core ones) and IPC...
6:45 nice AMD Radeon i5 12400F GPU and intel Ryzen 5 4500 CPU
that aside, nice video as always.
me: with a i5-13400f i made the right choice right....RIGHT
You did, there is a fairly big difference in the CPU's if you are doing more than just gaming. If you are just gaming on a budget just go get a 12100f.
You should have gotten the Ryzen 5 7600 which is the same price and much faster for gaming.
@@AshtonCoolman i payed 100$ for the i5 or i would've gotten the 13600k or Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Only if you are running it on a DDR5 board
@@FireFalconThe 12600KF is like $160 or less right now or at least in the U.S.
The music and overall quality in your videos are phenomenal, keep the good work up.
The 12400/F and 12100/F are some of the best budget CPUs right now with good performance at a low price and reasonable power consumption. With a higher budget Ryzen 7000 is the way to go though.
I think it's a good thing that the CPU market isn't totally monopolized by a single company, and is more divided as it is currently. I like to see competitiveness, gives us better products. I feel like the roles are reversed now compared to when Ryzen first released, Intel is the better choice for the lower end and AMD is the better choice for the higher end stuff.
But you need about a 850-ish USD budget for AM5 to be viable. 12400f being able to use DDR4 and more affordable mobos that aren't complete trash own the range just under that imho.
@@SpoonHurlerbruh, 7800x3d, 32gb ddr5 and b650 costs under 600? Unless your including taxes but then everything elses prices go up too.
Roughly 440 is entry, all I did was swap from x3d to 7600. Reduce ram and go to an a620 and its 370.
Ram prices went down and b650s exist. Im assumimg your info is a year or two out of date?
@@Derpynewb I'm talking full build, PSU, case, os drive aren't free
@@SpoonHurlermost people are upgrading though so it shouldnt cost as much
Babe wake up, iceberg tech just dropped a video about a cpu i will never have.
why?
Have you thought of getting an education so you can get a decent paying job? Jobs pay something called "money". This "money" can then be exchanged for services & goods such as a Intel i5 12400F.
@@JamesSmith-sw3nk have u tried to know about 3rd world countrys and inflation? Here i cant even buy a x99 + rx580 pc with a minimum wage.
@@JoseLucasd i think these so offensive ppls can never disappear
@@JoseLucasd The solution is don't work for minimum wage, get skills for a better job. The world owes you nothing.
i5-12400f is the king and future classic.I use it every day for everything: from programming to heavy gaming.
I use it as well, very happy with the cpu.
6:00 - as an AMD fan, it's heartening to see Intel get a W. It's like, as a Godzilla fan, I appreciate when King Kong kicks his butt sometimes.
Befor the video 98likes, after the video 120+. Keep doing good work Iceberg 👏
I have this exact CPU and couldn't be more satisfied. Yes, there are more alternatives however, at the time of buying this chip it was the best of the best deals. Great for budget gaming and great for budget productivity, basically I love it.
Editing in the G-Man intro speech at 2:29 like that was brilliant lol I can hear him saying it
Just bought one the other day, pairing it with a 6800, super excited!!
Just waiting on a psu so i can join this cpu with an rx 6600 😊 definitely happy with it's performance here.
I use the same GPU/CPU combination and it has been great.
@@paladin8669 i use the same bombo as well! its great
Just got this CPU for a buddy with an RTX 4070. He said he couldn't be happier with its performance.
it's a good pair with 3060 but 4070? That's gonna hold 4070 back at a lot of games.
@@Thomas_AngeloIt's alright if you're looking to save some money and mostly play GPU heavy games but personally I'd say the 13600K is a more balanced option.
@@acuilnos yeah I agree. 4070 and 13600k is a dream combo
@@Thomas_Angeloon the bright side that gives him some room for resolution super sampling
@@freefallp885 yeah 12400f is definitely workable but it's just holding the gpu back. that's it. I own the 12400f and it's an amazing cpu. but I know I will need to upgrade for my next gpu.
Feels weird to watch those video now since I have Ryzen 5600 for few days.
I have the power now to actually relate to those new chips instead of having just Haswell levels of IPC
That's my boy. I paired this with my 3060 and this build was such a good budget build.
I see what you did there with the "all the difference in the world" line...well played Sir
I think the thing no one talks about with the locked multiplier, on the second hand market, is you can trust the chips you bought haven't been abused, all the pins are on the motherboard, and you can't really overclock it, which is quite nice
I wish you threw the Ryzen 5 3600 in there to see what 3600 v 12400F looks like. I guess the Ryzen 5 4500 comes close, but it has half the cache (so bad for games) but better memory speeds (better productivity).
Nobody with a 3600 would go to 12400 when 56/57/5800x3d exists. That would be silly to switch platforms when you can just do a simple cpu upgrade to existing socket.
@@shapeshiftsixCorrect. I swapped my 3600XT for a 5700X for $180 5 months ago and the performance is drastically better across the board, especially when all cores are utilized.
@@XxGorillaGodxX I also went with a 5700x, they're amazing. 65w chip with 8 cores runs very cool.
Ah, yes, 6:53 12400 is a GPU now, and the R5 4500 is in the same 1700 socket.
Bruh, just use Riva Tuner's Overlays, so you won't need to manually type every name of CPU or GPU.
i wish i had waited for 12th gen i got an i5 10400 during the 11th gen
Why did you overlook Ryzen? They were the clear winners at the time anyways.
@@shapeshiftsix AMD was winning so much they didn't want to sell any CPU under $300(5600X) while the 10400F was costing half as much.
@@shapeshiftsix cause i use quick sync a lot and the intel boards and processors were cheaper at the time in my country
@@shapeshiftsixwhen I bought my i5 12th gen - for The Price of IED looking am5 board I was able to get a nice z690 motherboard. That combined with support for ddr4 sold me on intel.
People will say that either Intel or AMD is better - I say the one you can get for the better price is better.
Seeing this, im keeping my i5 12400f another year.
I like your unbiased reviews
I’d be curious to see you look at the i5-13500 because last I heard that thing was a hidden champ. Albeit not a “true” 13th gen chip like the 13600K the 13500 had some serious punch for less wattage and price!
12400F and 7500F, 7700 are some of CPUs me and others recommend picking up on aliexpress sale.
They are no thrill but isnt that what we want for our daily workhorse?
what those charts really show me is just how necessary the single-core performance uplift of zen4 was
This man could talk about anything and I'm watching 😂
I am currently rocking this chip in my current pc
Do you think the 12400f's DDR5 support with faster memory is contributing its performance close to a ryzen 7 5700x? (which obviously uses DDR4 3600)
are there mbs with frontsidebus oc, its called something else now, but if that is the case, can u oc the 1200f?
Locked alderlake can be OCed on boards with a external base clock generator. The cheapest of those being the Asrock b760m riptide. Keep in mind it does OC your memory as well.
It's fun watching this CPU trade blows with the 5600X. It's a litmus test for whether a game engine likes more cache (5600X) or higher IPC (12400F).
Great video! I have a 12400 and it’s good to see how it stacks up as the years go by.
7:13 cool 12400f gpu bro, XD
Id love to play around with this and an external clock-gen motherboard, but went for an am4 setup instead at the time.
Never thought I’d see a video dedicated to my good old 12 four hundo
I have the 11400F and it is quite decent, at 120w it gives me good performance and it even emulated PS3 (although very fair), it was cheaper than a 5600X at the time I decided to build the PC I have now. With an RTX 2060 and then a 3070 it has allowed me to play quite a few titles so far, I was going to use it for a couple more years, but I got a 12700F for €150 and decided to update the platform.
Been rocking a 12400 w a Kraken X52 AIO and the CPU is solid. Max temps of 44 Degrees C. No complaints.
i have a 12400F on itx Fractal Ridge case with a 3060ti and it's a pretty sexy combo for the price IMO ! I play Jedi Survivor in 1080p and since 1 month i don't have stuttering issues anymore !
Do explore bclk oc on this chip! Squeezing every bit of value out of it
you need a board with an external bclk generator and his z690 torpedo doesn't support it.
I am thinking of pairing it with RTX 3060Ti. What you gentlemen think?
This just shows just how far ahead the 5000 series of ryzen was. Designed to compete with the 10th gen, the fact that a 12th gen (despite the lower clocks) still falls short for many titles, especially the ones where fps really matters.
How much performance difference if it's using DDR4? cause afaik people that upgrade to 12th gen or Ryzen 5600 already have decent DDR4 memory and thus keep it under tight budget, if they upgrade their ram to DDR5 they probably gonna go AM5 route instead.
My main PC has a 12600KF, I have access to a 13700K I can put in it, but don't see the point until I need to remove the cooler for something else.
I am not the most demanding user, or even hardcore gamer, but I do love seeing all the frames and benchmark points I can get. That said, i5s and Ryzen 5 chips are giving us some pretty good performance.
an idea for a new video would be the XFX 6650XT core 210
I know that the difference in performance between ddr4 and ddr5 is a few percentage points here and there, but for most people who are looking to purchase a 12400f or a 12100f are on a budget and are probably going for 3600mhz ddr4. You could probably snag a 32gb kit for the price of a 5600mhz kit of 16gb of ddr5 (at least where I live). IMO, the extra memory is better than the added speed
Do not go for 3600 DDR4, get cheaper DDR5 instead. Locked ADL and RPL skus have a locked VCCSA voltage basically making anything above 3200 gear1 down to the silicon lottery. DDR5 doesn't seem to care as much and you can do even 7200 on some 12400 just fine. If you enable XMP for anything above 3200 in almost every scenario you will actually be slower by default since it will halve your IMC clockspeed. With DDR5 speeds gear2 is fine, but at slower speeds like 3600 this is a problem.
It’s not like you’re saving much when you’re going with 32gb of either
Not that great of an advice. AAA titles are very hungry to memory bandwidth. CP for example even on tuned 3600 will lose up to 20% frames. Difference will be negligible only in esports titles(dota,cs etc.). Today ddr5 seems more appealing
ur ignoring the fact that most people going for a 12400f(like me ) are on a budget and probably cant fit a mobo that supports ddr5 ram+ the ddr5 ram into their budget
I got a good mobo and this cpu when it released, served me very well for 1440p gaming, I got intel since I knew I'll be upgrading and high end i7 and i9 are always better for code compilation, recently got a 14700k and works like a charm
FINALLY
Currently on the 12400F / B660M Riptide combo OCed to 5.2Ghz on a 50$ Thermalright 360 AIO
I got this combo from a friend for 200$ lightly used
Beat that value
I mean, for moving parts like software or hardware that are meant to go on for a long time, boring is very good. It means it get the job that it was designed for done, now, and 10 years later it still gets the job done.
that yawn on the start was the entire 12th gen i5 and i7 lineup 😂
Literally just moved to this CPU after many, many years on a 3770k. It's a great chip, although now I have the itch to hunt down one of the BCLK capable motherboards to push it even further than power limits can get me.
I build a PC for my brother in law with the non F version during pandemic in the end of 2021 so he didnt need to buy separate GPU. And during crypto drop, he bought RTX 3060 Ti
Been rocking 12400 since 2022 and recently upgraded to 4070s to jump up to 1440p. It has been flawless!
Are there any bottlenecks?
No way you make a video about a CPU I'm considering buying
Don’t do it to yourself
I needed an igpu to get started so bought the i5 12500 (was only 10 euros more than the 12400 and better igpu) and I can confidently say this CPU has more than enough power for my usage, and probably will for many years.
And it may sound weird, but I actually like these CPUs with only P cores. They feel "clean". Knowing everything will always run on a good fast core is nice, even if e cores are pretty powerful nowadays and it probably doesn't matter.
About the only LGA1700 cpu I’ll use the rest are bin jobs in my opinion!
Would there be a massive difference if I used DDR4 instead of DDr5
You didnt mention why the 6900xt was already bottlenecking
Because the 6900 is 10% off in performance compared to the 7900 xtx, which itself is 20% off in performance compared to the 4090
I5 12400F is actually unlockable. 12th gen snet the microcode for overclock to the motherboard vendors, and there are some boards that can actually overcock it. Double check your info next time
Something very, very wrong with the CyberPunk video portion, left upper side, it shows 2 proccesors, the 12400 drawing 231W where the graphic card should be and bellow it shows Ryzen 5 4500!!!!
How is that possible???
Same thing on the Civilazition VI portion of the video ???
Get an MSI B660 Mortar Max and start raising the BCLK and it's quite impressive!
Good video.. BUT a 12600k has e-cores which are great for multitasking. You can cpu intensive tasks with the "P-cores" cores and still use the "E-cores" to browse the web, watch youtube videos, even play old games,etc. It's like having 2pc's in one.
i think theres some way to do Blck overclock on the i5 12400f
Can we crowdfund for you to get a 7800xt, 7900xt, 4070TIS?
That may not be necessary. Gears are in motion!
Hello, Jonathan Ross.
How did you come up with the name Iceberg?
It sounded cool
let's just create the lore that he was inspired by the Titanic killer.
@@IcebergTechWell, icebergs are certainly cool/cold lol
I had this and upgraded to the 12700kf and feel like the 12400 is a much better value. I had to invest in a slab of ptm 7950 and a thermal right peerless assassin and still see 70c in some titles. I'm running h670 so my ram is the only thing overclocked. The Power draw from modern intel chips is insane. My kiddo has a 10100 and its a beast of a chip too for the price.
Intel 6th gen Skylake was great architecture after that they just pushed to the limit the same thing. Same thing happened with 12th Alder-Lake - great new architecture, and now we see the same in that sense that intel just milks with 13 and 14gen to instability levels.
I had my 12400f for a year now and it’s great I have a 6600xt 3200 16gb ram and I gotta say I’m happy I play all games at 1080p i haven’t played a game yet even cyberpunk that I don’t get over 100 fps at med to high settings if you play at 1080p even 1440 it’s a great mid range choice I’d recommend to anyone building a pc that’s not spending over a 1000$ and building it themselves idk really about editing and stuff but for gaming it’s a great cpu with good value liked the video tho thankyou for not being those UA-camrs who always down play cpus and gpus that aren’t top of the line not everyone is spending 5 grand for a gaming pc
me with my e5 2697 v3 xeon watching the youngsters battle
Where’s the 9900k? I think these would compete well
How u overlayed riva on cs go
I would like a comparison to 9700f vs 12400f
Best budget Intel chip of the past 10 yrs imo, bcoz it actually has a reliable upgrade path (up to 14th gen) if you choose your mobo right. I went with a B660 pro bcoz it has enough vrm power for an i9 later, but that'll be crazy on a locked mobo, so I'd go with an i7 14th gen in a few yrs👍
I was so tempted to get the i5 12th Gen over the R5 5600 but they motherboards were the pricey part here in south Africa. Intel cheaper cpus but more expensive mobo and more expensive ryzen Cpu but cheaper mobo. Picked a decent B550 with wifi and all for less
0:00 Intel i5 12400F in 2023
it's 2024 now Iceberg 😭
U should be able to overclock it to 5ghz. Lookup 12th gen Non K OC motherboards...
I rather have the i5 12400 with the IGPU so I can have that QuickSync goodness.
The 400 variants of the last couple of intel generations have been fantastic chips. Really good prices for what they offer and not too power hungry either. In my eyes some of the best value intel had to offer in recent years.
I had a good time with my 12400, a friend gave it to me a year ago and I just recently upgraded to a 12700k since it was on sale under $200 but honestly I could have kept going with the 12400 with no issues
yeah. 12400 to 12700k is a waste of money...
@@JhCe well I got the 12400 for free and then sold it for 150 after upgrading so Im not complaining
@@LKNear then no issue. Just talking about the fact if one was to really upgrade from 12400 to 12700k.
@@JhCe I would tend to agree yes like I said I could have kept going with the 12400 just fine
@@LKNear yeah. i am using 12400F currently. i would say that it has more sufficient processing power despite withoue e cores... for gaming or productivity work it is more than sufficient. and it should last for many years to come.
of course, if one is doing video editing etc... of course the best available CPU will still help in many ways. :P
upgraded from an i5-4690 to the 12400F at the start of they year and the difference was night and day!
cant recommend the 12400F enough
Dragon's Dogma 2 is one of those games that you look at and wonder how does it run so badly
I'm currently watching this on an i5 12400F, still killer for most 1080p/1440p systems.
Which GPU are you using?
@@NammaReels8 An RTX 3070! I wouldn't go much more powerful than that with this CPU, although you could probably get away with a 6800XT or something similar and be fine for the most part.
What do you think of the 7900 GRE?
If you can it for 550$, it’s definitely pure win
For me it's only a small upgrade from the 6900 XT, but that's still pretty good for the price point. AV1 encoding is great for streaming, too.
@@IcebergTech Do you think rx 7900 gre and i5 12400f be a good combo?. Any bottlnecks?
Let's gooo I got this cpu
suggestion: put the date of testing on your chart
If you look closely, the 12400f always seems to cap out at just under 4.0 ghz
why does this happen
Is it worth it to upgrade to this from a 10th gen i3?
Absolutely yes,they are cheap right now
please make video about 13400f
I am using this processor in my spare PC.
It was one of the main chips that beat AMD at last in terms of price/performance. That's why it's important.
But with cheaper board - asrock raptide b760m you can push this cpu to 5ghz, it has external clock gen
Maybe DDR5 is a factor on this processor, other processors I'm seeing are DDR4
I have a 10700k paired with a 3070, its good for everything im doing now but how long do you think the 10700k will last? I was looking to upgrade my gpu first when I do upgrade
The 12400f is a solid if boring cpu, but depending on prices, I prefer to recommend the 12600kf, it's usually $20-30 higher, and you get those 4 cute little efficiency cores for extra processing power. But, if it's significantly cheaper, there's no reason to not, at least, consider the 12400f.
This video actually shows the awesomeness of the Ryzen 5 7500F. Which in a few years everyone will scoff it.
The 7500F is a win win win for AMD, just like the 2600k was for Intel back in the day.
" just like the 2600k was for Intel back in the day."
????? How?
I gonna try to sell my old i7 7700k and get used i5-12400F it should be a great performance boost at maybe $60-90 cost.
Not gonna lie, I was considering the 12400f when i built my pc back in august. Then i found a $290 cpu-mobo bundle (5700X and MSI b550m pro-vdh wifi)
Those bundles will get you with the worst or our dated mobos
@@Pikkoroo no
@@notluminaire I have the same board as yours. It's MSI's "latest" revision of that board, which comes with a rebranded AMD WIFI 6 module. The WIFI board originally comes in two WIFI flavors, Intel WIFI AC and AX. Somehow MSI decided to replace the AC version with an AMD WIFI 6 module. Free upgrade I guess?
bclk oc to 5.1 ghz on asrock b660m pg riptide😅😅
b760m is better for ddr5 support
You definitely want a Ryzen... if you can afford it, that is. Oh how the turns have tabled!