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I literally made a comment specifically requesting a video that goes into detail about bottlenecking a few months ago, and this man just decides to completely kill it and deliver on that request. Thank you, Marcus! 😎
A cool video would be pairing recommended CPUs with each GPU in the current generation - a full listing like this might help people in what to buy for their system
I'm shocked that someone finally used Cities Skylines to demonstrate bottlenecks. I would love to see it and other simulation games used in benchmarks more. There's a sneaky one out there, Football Manager, that no one uses but the community every year setups up benchmark discussions on the forums so people will know how it runs on certain hardware
R5 1600x with a 6600 xt, managed to alleviate my cpu bottleneck a fair bit recently after getting an nvme and the b450 motherboard which actually allows me to overclock my cpu. I have seen some massive fps increases already.
@@patlotpotlot6154 I would if I had the money to, I have planned my build going forward but it's quite expensive, I need a cpu with a very high sigle core score to help with modded skyrim's draw calls, thinking 7600x is a good choice, but I need the b650 and ddr5 ram too so that's going to take a while to earn.
8:45 If you play Valorant , I recommend using an other tool than Riva Tuner Statistic (Benchmark tool embedded with Msi Afterburner) , it can create unexpected crashes in the game (i suspect the anti cheat borderline malware Riot is using). I recommend using Frameview instead or the stats in game for Valorant (via graphic settings -> Tab "Stats")
Good vid, I use my PC exclusively for MSFS 2020 and Xplane for flight training. Both are CPU bound titles, the first is to understand you titles. I also just realized not only my CPU bottleneck it was the Temps that gave me the hint. My GPU was never going over 70C while my CPU was always 85+C no matter how I tried to cool it.. It would freeze when temps got too hot. Moving to a 7800x3d with AIO cooler and new case. GPU’s are rarely the bottleneck with my specific use case.. that’s key, know your use case and PC limitations and MONITOR
Yessss I just caught on LoL. At 4:50 you said "game crashes" then it went to an ad, then you said "you see what I did there." I like it... that smooth as hell 🤣🤣👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾✅✅✅✅
This is the most informative video on the subject I have found. Looking to upgrade my GPU (still on a 1060) knowing cpu bottleneck will be a thing I will have to optimise. Yes, I know I could upgrade the CPU and mobo as well, bur for now it’s just the CPU.
I am hoping that I am good with my build after watching this.😮 I built a PC over the Christmas Hols: Ryzen 9 7950x with a RTX 4090, NVME Western Digital Black SN850X 4TB, 64GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6200Mhz
Thanks for this video! My PC’s monitors always used to turn off randomly whip playing Fortnite. I always thought that it was just a cable issue, but this video told me otherwise
Thank you for the wonderful video with lots of information. One thing i noticed in your videos compared to other videos on youtube is volume. in your videos i hear less volume kindly fix it no matter how much i increase in system i still hear less...
I've been noticing that my 10900K is starting to become a bottleneck in same games. It usually doesn't go above 80%, but my GPU will only be running between 70-80% at times depending on game. And I have a RTX 3080
I have just spent a week looking into getting a good GPU for a RYZEN 7 7700X and I ended up ordering a MSI RX6750XT MECH. This is the first EVER time I have done this in my life. What I did discover from all the articles and videos on UA-cam is that no matter how you pair a CPU & a GPU you will never eliminate bottle necking. You can only minimise it. Great video Marcus as always. 👍🏻👍🏻🖖🏻🖖🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
In 2011 i bought a 3930k 6 core 12 thread true monster for that time. It lasted with any gpu you threw at it until around 2017/2018 when i sold the system. Nowadays the botttleneck is the cpu as they are not fast enough for the gpus. An example of this would be 5000 amd series with 3090 and try a new 7000 series cpu. U will see the 3090 pushing more frames with the new chips even though everyone was saying the 5000 series was a perfect match. It wasnt. Turns out we need faster clock speeds and more cache. Corrrect me if im wrrong.
I think I got mine pretty balanced. R7 7700x, 32GB CL30 6000mhz G.Skill Ram, MSI Ventus 4080, & 850watt power supply. With a ASROCK X670E Pro motherboard in a Hyre Y60.
I need to downgrade my gpu. 6900xt is bottlenecking my 5900x 99% to 1%. Games stutter bad. I put my 5600xt and ran the game and it was the opposite. Everything ran smoothly. MW2
Hey I've got a question if my build is looking fine ;d I'm considering buying it in a few days and I'm stressing. -Gigabyte geforce 4070 windforce 12gb -Intel Core I5-13600K -Gigabyte Z690 gaming X DDR4 -Patriot Viper Steel 16GB 3600MHz CL17 -Power supply - endorfy supermo 750W FM5 gold - Hdd seagate barracuda 4tb - cpu cooler endorfy fera 5 dual fan
The makers of Windows gave us Xbox for a reason - because I believe how the OS evolved over the years is at the core of most of these complications, and they saw this coming. Things recently went so complicated with optimization that I often worry until they expand Windows with a dedicated gaming version, there will be no such thing as gaming PC in the near future.
Great video! Thanks for explaining everything in details. I currently have a rX7800xt paired with a Ryzen 5700x3d 32 GB RAM (3.6 GHz), but I am not satisfied with my performance at all.Most of the games nowadays can't even fully utilize my GPU while my FPS fluctuates from 160 to 90 fps playing at 1440p with high-ultra settings. What cpu should i get?
I have an AMD R5 3600 overclocked to 4.32ghz, 7900 XT 20GB and 32GB G Skill Trident Z 3600mhz ram. Using a bottleneck calculator my cpu is apparently only 27% bottlenecked but the real bottleneck is my 3x monitors as they are only 75hz 1080p, so I have to cap my FPS or it can cause some screen tearing or stuttering. I know that AMD have scaling settings etc but I think that this should have been mentioned in the video as a contributing factor.
I believe I’m CPU bound. Runnin a 12700kf with a 4070 at 1080p Ultra/Max unless the jump to 1440p doesn’t effect frame rates to much. Thanks for the help!
@@calvinm1866Yeah, I’ll mainly go to 1440 when I’m playing more CPU intensive games EG Minecraft or Valorant, as well as unoptimized titles like TLOU or RE4 Just to get the CPU And GPU to work more in tandem with each other. Thanks for the reply!
My son has the 12700KF, 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz and the Asus 4070 TUF OC and he plays everything at max on 1440p with no problems at all. He had the Palit GamingPro 3070 before and used the same settings which was just a bit slower. For instance he plays Forza all Ultra settings and the 3070 would hit around 130fps but the 4070 can stay at 165fps.
Just upgraded to attempt to remove all current bottlenecks in games until next gen releases better hardware. Ryzen 7 7800x3d on an aorus x670e master with 32 gigs corsair vengance 6000 cl30 ddr5 ram, aorus rtx 4090 master, powered by a corsair 1000e psu.
Great video on bottlenecks. Following on the same theme could you please do a really simple guide video on setting up an AMD 7950X3D CPU so it shelves the 8 none 3D VCACHE cores whilst gaming, for better gaming performance and better power use? There are no simple videos that cover all the steps which include "this is what it probably looks like before this step, this is what it SHOULD look like after this step, and here is what else to try if it doesn't." Like if there is a windows service missing that you need. Thanks :)
I'm currently on an i9, 13900K with a RTX 3090 TI OC. But, the kicker is my memory. DDR4 @ 3200MHZ. So while multi processor games run amazing, single threaded games like rust or literally anything unity driven just runs like ass. I'm also running a Samsung Evo 970 Evo so in this case as you mentioned, memory is restricting my processor. A single thread game like rust alone uses 11.5GB of memory. Just bought a new board and 25gb of DDR5 at 5500mhz and im expecting significantly better fps on single threaded games.
For my system, I have a RTX 3070 and R7 5800x (4.7ghz) 16gb ram dual channel 3600mhz CL16 and I play games at 1080p with high-ultra settings single-player and low settings for fps. The problem is that my gpu never gets fully utilised whilst my cpu is around 70-80% + utilisation I'm assuming I have a cpu bottleneck?
R5 3600, 12 Gig 3060, Gen 4 M.2 in Gen 4 slot, 16 Gig RAM at 3600 XMP, and i pretty much just play Armello and FFXIV at 1440, 144 FPS. I'm 99% certain I have a thicker neck than the rest of the bottle.
Very informative video and educational. Though warzone Is gpu bound until you lower your graphics setting to put more load on your cpu. Also twhy is it when ppl say when your gpu is 99% it isn't bottleneck because it's maxed. So that's false information?
720p looks better than 1080p HD, GPU is almost maxed even at 720p on my new RTX 2050 TUF F15 with intel 5 11400H, ROG Boost OC is on even with no usage on performance mode, done everything i can think of
hi liked the video my rig is a 10900k cpu 64gb ddr4 3600 ram on a maximus12 z490 board with a MSI RTX3080 SUPRIM X GPU . there is a bottlencking check site where you can put in the cpu and gpu and it gives an estimate . atm for me even though my rig is getting older it works atm in most of my games . pricing though atm is very high to get a more modern setup so the 40 series gpus and 13 series cpus i will pass on as they are not worth the daft prices for minor fps benefis .
I am not sure if i got this quite right, but you said that if your gpu is constantly at 97% utilization then it is a gpu bottleneck. By any means i am no expert, but this is a good indicator to say that your cpu(most likely) or other components are limiting the utilization of your gpu by 3%.. meaning you get 3 % fps lower than you should with this particular gpu becasue(most likely assuming there is no fps cap limit) of the cpu. please do correct me if i am mistaken Gpu bottlenecks are quite obvious most of the times, either by lower vram capacity than expected(you see vram almost maxed out)= very low fps, stutters or even crashes that usually occur on high resolutions with very high graphic settings for older cards .Or simple quite low fps because the card isnt able to produce enough perfomance.(but this is not a bottleneck technically just a weak card for this game) Typically all cards have limits but if the perfomance is unstable like mentioned then it is gpu hardware limitations or outdated software related to this,except if this does happen for only particular games which simply most likely are not optimized yet... BUT____if your card is quite good, then maybe soemtimes you just dont have enough ram for a stable gaming experience. I have had this issue twice in 1440p with 20gb vram and 16 gb ram and more specifically in forza 5 and fortnite, with full pimped settings, you may need even more than 16gb especially if u do like to multitask. personally i dont care, i ll either close any application running from behind or lower some settings..I just wanted to mention that i do run 7900xt and 13500 and the gpu utilization for what i play is 100% at 1440p. i think that if your gpu utilization for the games you play is around or more than 95%(atleast for gpu games oriented) your system is quite balanced and you shouldnt care much really. 100 % is ideal ofcourse, but saving some money for a better card it is always the better choice. Most of the times a most powerfull card at 95% or even 90% utilization perfomance(meaning there is a 10% bottleneck by your cpu due to compatibility) can be a better choice than a weaker gpu that plays at 100% assuming you chose the exact same specs for both theoretical systems. there are tons of benchmarks videos on youtube if you are curious what fits with. Also the good news is that the higher resolution you get the less cpu bottleneck exists,meaning your more expensive card can perform even better from resolution to resolution. But 4k atleast for now is something you should avoid imo, except if you dont mind upgrading a system constantly, simply because it is quite demanding, atleast for the vast majority of hardware nowdays. a "4k card" can become quite easily a 1440p in a matter of a few years, especially those running at "low" vram total
He was saying that RTTS, which is the OSD for Afterburner will never report 100% usage. I have tested this out by using a 1060 and switching to a 4090 on CP2077. The CPU was a 7950x, 32GB @6000 cl30. Both cards were bottlenecked by the GPU (at different settings of) and GPU usage was reported as 97-98% in both cases.
My system is rocking a R5 5600 and a RX 5500XT 8GB. Is my CPU more powerful then my GPU? I've never seen my GPU usage go below 96% and most of the time it stays around 99%. CPU usage however, stays around 17% to 30%. To make it much clearer, the games I like to play are F1 22, Ready or Not, NFS Heat, NFS Payback, Warzone, Tarkov. I'm not a graphics hungry player so I usually keep around medium settings in most of my games.
Being the proud owner of a 3 and a half year old ACER Nitro 5 17.3” laptop that I use to both play and stream off of simultaneously with no additional monitors (that’s right… my phone is my chat screen hahaha) I know all too well the pain of bottleneck issues, the problem I have is the lack of space for a dedicated PC build and the money to justify it… I will have to live with my 1660Ti (mobile) graphics card for the foreseeable future sadly
I bought a pre built from Best Buy for little over 2,000$ and literally can’t play COD or Fortnite without it shutting down atleast once within 20mins. Thought I’d switch from console to pc and it would be better but it’s been nothing but a headache. Almost took the pc with me to the gun range to use as a target. It’s a Corsair vengeance i7200. CPU- intel core i7, GPU- nvidia rtx 3070, DRAM- 32gb vengeance rgb pro ddr4-3200, STORAGE- 1tb m.2 NVMe + 2tb hdd, MOTHERBOARD-z490 atx, PSU- Corsair rm750 80 plus gold.
Sorry dude, that sucks. What’s the actual CPU model? 12700k or something, I’d guess. A good place to start is getting the latest drivers on everything - especially your GPU. Edit: pretty sure I found your exact model online and some folks are saying to update your bios and double check the wiring. A lot of people are mentioning loose cables, which might explain your computer turning off.
@@jacobvriesema6633 11700k. I took it back to Best Buy and had “geek squad” check it and they said they stressed tested it and it ran fine no problems. I told them to play some games and they will find out but I highly doubt they did. Sometimes I get lucky and it will last an hour but it’s a guarantee every time I hop on it will happen and most likely within 20-30 mins. I don’t know enough to pin point the week link their has to be one. I will check the wires more carefully.
@@LinseySanchez I know if it has bad airflow it isn’t because of me. I put this thing on an empty 8ft table in a big open living room. (I’m a single father) lol I made sure air flow wasn’t the problem before I took to “geek squad”.
Unfortunately, most pre-built from Best Buy and brands like IBuyPower or CyberPower PC have really terrible thermals. I mistakenly bought my first gaming PC and it was HP Omen and it’s temps were already at 90c just running GTA V. I was thinking of buying more fans or even a new case but I also noticed that the Motherboard, PSU are all proprietary components. So it will be difficult to upgrade and would be better off buying all new parts. Lesson learned.
Hi bro! Can you please review the Asus Tuf Gaming F17 FX706, with 16gb ram, rtx 3050? There are not enough reviews on this laptop and I'm looking to get it by the end of the year and I want you to give a detailed review of it if possible. Thanks for reading my comment.
I have a i7 12700kf 12th gen atm with a 7900xtx I stream and mainly play cod getting cpu bottlenecking best upgrade choice thinking going ryzen from Intel single pc streamer 2
I'm not sure if I have a bottleneck, but I'm not quite getting the fps i thought I'd get with Assassin's Creed Origins. I have the following: Ryzen 9 5950x RTX 4080 32GB Ram I play at 1440p at 120fps, and my GPU usage is around 65-76%. I know this is an AMD title, but in places like Alexandria, i dip to around 80-90fps. I know it's an intensive area. I just thought I'd get a constant 120fps as this game isn't the newest.
I know my cpu (4790k) and RAM (DDR3 1600mhz) are holding me back. Plus, I don't know what I can upgrade to in order to get near or over 100 fps for my 1080ti (to play at 1080p) or just save for a complete PC overhaul instead (2k or 4k gaming)? PS - my TV is 4k 60hz (it was the only one available in my budget that I could get that plays full HD 1920 x 1080 where I live).
How come my pc runs games well but my GPU usage still stays so low around 30-50%. My CPU is usually running higher for all games. I play games like Warzone, CS2, Hell Let Loose etc on higher settings. All my temperatures are great. My specs are: GPU: RTX 3070 ti CPU: Ryzen 7 5700x RAM: 32GB DDR4 PSU: 850w I currently do have a Sata M.2 SSD storage in and am going to change it to a newer NVMe SSD but I don’t think that’s the problem regardless. Does anyone know any reason why my pc can be running like this? Thank you
Why does everyone want so much FPS?! Do you even see difference between 60 and 120+? If I am honest I don’t even see difference between 45 and 60, so I have it locker on 60 and not overheat my GPU, even if I could run games on 120 fps
I wanted that because it means I probably don't need upgrade my pc for next 5 years atleast. And if so I probably dont need new CPU. unless A.I. gonna get some crazy breaktroughs maybe lol
I have a i5 12600k 12 gen I think for me its the 3060 ti which I only have a few weeks. its doing all I need until I save up for a 4070 I have 850w psu so defo can put a bigger card in.
my gpu, and vram run at 95-100% on 1080p ultra, no fsr, on starfield. game freezes on loading assets, so i'm sure that's because I've got it installed on a hdd instead of an ssd. Looking to upgrade my 4 year old pc soon anyway, will finally get a high end one :-)
Nice vid. Does my head in so many comments, will x cpu bottleneck y GPU... It's not a binary answer there are so many variables involved. And lastly, bottlenecking is not a bad thing! It means you're using a component to it's fullest. In fact the best system is where everything bottlenecks everything else!!
Hello everyone 👋 just wondering if someone could suggest an upgrade for me as I’m struggling to figure out how to get the most improvement/future proofing out of an upgrade. Specs: Intel i5 11400F Gigabyte 3070 32gb 3200 mhz RAM Corsair 850w psu Msi b560 pro-WiFi mobo A 500gb Samsung nvme ssd A barracuda 1TB hhd A wd 1tb sata drive And the noctua nh-d15 This setup is mainly used for mil-sim games like squad or he’ll let loose etc and games like star citizen + rust. Thanks for any help or suggestions 👍
Was looking at upgrading to a ryzen 7 7800x3D, 32gb 6000mhz of ddr5 vengeance RAM and a 650 board of some sort with about £1000 of budget. Not sure whether this would be a noticeable and worthwhile upgrade though so I’m yet to pull the trigger.
I have a rtx 3060 a Intel i9, more than enough ram, and a power supply that covers all of it and it still doesn’t preform like it should. My motherboard fits a second graphic card do I do that?
i have an i5 11400f and a 3060 and in fortnite lowest settings when i get into a fight i get drops and low fps lows and my cpu usage is about 80 but gpu is about 20-30. The temps are normal. Do i need a new cpu or something
my pc has been gpu bottlenecked for around 5 years, i9 9900k and a 1080 ti sc, im planning on upgrading to a 4080 super and then upgrading my cpu, motherboard, ram and cooler at the end of the year. how bad would u say that cpu bottleneck will be?
Ive got an rtx 4080 with ryzen9 7900x and i think my CPU is bottlenecking the gpu😢 in rdr2 ultra(qhd) i get awful little stutters, CPU lays at ~60% usage and the GPU at 60% as well. But in god of war maxed the GPU uses 99% of its potential and works great.
I'm using Asus A455LF with I3-4005U and Nvidia 930M 2GB to play R6 Siege. And let me tell you, I'm puffing a lot of copium with capped 42fps. I could play 1-2 matches before my laptop starts stuttering and freezing. Any tips on how to reduce freezing especially
Maybe you can help me with this or the audience. I recently received an Asus Strix 3070ti from my father while he got himself an 7900 xtx red devil. My old GPU is a gtx 1650 from MSI. I know I’m bottlenecked because I have a Ryzen 3600. I want to stick with amd because if better thermals and efficiency. I’m between buying and 7700 or a 5800x3d. I feel like those two cpus will do me great and I’m wondering what the audience will say. Thanks! And great video!
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Dude you are funny 🤣. And yes I learn a lot! Thank you my friend. :). Greatings from Bruges- Belgium. 😎
The only real bottleneck is the wallet bottleneck
I literally made a comment specifically requesting a video that goes into detail about bottlenecking a few months ago, and this man just decides to completely kill it and deliver on that request. Thank you, Marcus! 😎
Congrats on the Inception
Love this man and his content 😂
“How to fix it” was a complete click bait
no fr this guy is really trash at this content
He's British of course it's click bait
A cool video would be pairing recommended CPUs with each GPU in the current generation - a full listing like this might help people in what to buy for their system
I'm shocked that someone finally used Cities Skylines to demonstrate bottlenecks. I would love to see it and other simulation games used in benchmarks more. There's a sneaky one out there, Football Manager, that no one uses but the community every year setups up benchmark discussions on the forums so people will know how it runs on certain hardware
I have 5700x and 6650xt and i can’t even game smoothly on modded teardown game
Dude that intro is so hilarious! Love ya PC Centric! You helped me build my first pc!
R5 1600x with a 6600 xt, managed to alleviate my cpu bottleneck a fair bit recently after getting an nvme and the b450 motherboard which actually allows me to overclock my cpu. I have seen some massive fps increases already.
Have you planned to upgrade that?
@@patlotpotlot6154 I would if I had the money to, I have planned my build going forward but it's quite expensive, I need a cpu with a very high sigle core score to help with modded skyrim's draw calls, thinking 7600x is a good choice, but I need the b650 and ddr5 ram too so that's going to take a while to earn.
I've learned so much from this channel. Once I get the money I going to try to get into the PC business myself
8:45 If you play Valorant , I recommend using an other tool than Riva Tuner Statistic (Benchmark tool embedded with Msi Afterburner) , it can create unexpected crashes in the game (i suspect the anti cheat borderline malware Riot is using).
I recommend using Frameview instead or the stats in game for Valorant (via graphic settings -> Tab "Stats")
That's what he was using bruh
Good vid, I use my PC exclusively for MSFS 2020 and Xplane for flight training. Both are CPU bound titles, the first is to understand you titles. I also just realized not only my CPU bottleneck it was the Temps that gave me the hint. My GPU was never going over 70C while my CPU was always 85+C no matter how I tried to cool it.. It would freeze when temps got too hot. Moving to a 7800x3d with AIO cooler and new case. GPU’s are rarely the bottleneck with my specific use case.. that’s key, know your use case and PC limitations and MONITOR
Yessss I just caught on LoL. At 4:50 you said "game crashes" then it went to an ad, then you said "you see what I did there." I like it... that smooth as hell 🤣🤣👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾✅✅✅✅
Literally needed this video last night because of the 1000th mw2 update🤦♂️😂 great timing 🙌
This is the most informative video on the subject I have found. Looking to upgrade my GPU (still on a 1060) knowing cpu bottleneck will be a thing I will have to optimise. Yes, I know I could upgrade the CPU and mobo as well, bur for now it’s just the CPU.
My 3070 ti and i7 13700k are working great together. 1440p balanced setting 190 fps warzone 2
i need to upgrade i get 75 with my 3070ti but i have an i7 9700
I am hoping that I am good with my build after watching this.😮 I built a PC over the Christmas Hols: Ryzen 9 7950x with a RTX 4090, NVME Western Digital Black SN850X 4TB, 64GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6200Mhz
Killer build!
@@PcCentric Cheers mate, great to hear! 😄👍
Thanks for this video! My PC’s monitors always used to turn off randomly whip playing Fortnite. I always thought that it was just a cable issue, but this video told me otherwise
Thank you for the wonderful video with lots of information. One thing i noticed in your videos compared to other videos on youtube is volume. in your videos i hear less volume kindly fix it no matter how much i increase in system i still hear less...
I've been noticing that my 10900K is starting to become a bottleneck in same games. It usually doesn't go above 80%, but my GPU will only be running between 70-80% at times depending on game. And I have a RTX 3080
1080p?
@@stance1x No, 1440p
I have just spent a week looking into getting a good GPU for a RYZEN 7 7700X and I ended up ordering a MSI RX6750XT MECH. This is the first EVER time I have done this in my life. What I did discover from all the articles and videos on UA-cam is that no matter how you pair a CPU & a GPU you will never eliminate bottle necking. You can only minimise it. Great video Marcus as always. 👍🏻👍🏻🖖🏻🖖🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
In 2011 i bought a 3930k 6 core 12 thread true monster for that time. It lasted with any gpu you threw at it until around 2017/2018 when i sold the system. Nowadays the botttleneck is the cpu as they are not fast enough for the gpus. An example of this would be 5000 amd series with 3090 and try a new 7000 series cpu. U will see the 3090 pushing more frames with the new chips even though everyone was saying the 5000 series was a perfect match. It wasnt. Turns out we need faster clock speeds and more cache. Corrrect me if im wrrong.
I think I got mine pretty balanced. R7 7700x, 32GB CL30 6000mhz G.Skill Ram, MSI Ventus 4080, & 850watt power supply. With a ASROCK X670E Pro motherboard in a Hyre Y60.
Just wanna say God bless you PC Centric
I need to downgrade my gpu. 6900xt is bottlenecking my 5900x 99% to 1%. Games stutter bad. I put my 5600xt and ran the game and it was the opposite. Everything ran smoothly. MW2
What’s my bottleneck you ask? Credit limit.
Hey I've got a question if my build is looking fine ;d I'm considering buying it in a few days and I'm stressing.
-Gigabyte geforce 4070 windforce 12gb
-Intel Core I5-13600K
-Gigabyte Z690 gaming X DDR4
-Patriot Viper Steel 16GB 3600MHz CL17
-Power supply - endorfy supermo 750W FM5 gold
- Hdd seagate barracuda 4tb
- cpu cooler endorfy fera 5 dual fan
your intros make my day even better xD
Loved this Marcus....@pccentric you're the best....I just upgraded from a 5600G to the 5800X3D, got it under $300 Amazon prime day....love it
I've decided to speak straight fax, a 12400f dosen't bottleneck a 4070 (only just)
Like #26 I'm running an 11900K paired with a 4070 Ti, 32 GB of RAM, on a Z590 MB
The makers of Windows gave us Xbox for a reason - because I believe how the OS evolved over the years is at the core of most of these complications, and they saw this coming. Things recently went so complicated with optimization that I often worry until they expand Windows with a dedicated gaming version, there will be no such thing as gaming PC in the near future.
Great content as always! BTW what is that white GPU in the white PC?
Great video! Thanks for explaining everything in details. I currently have a rX7800xt paired with a Ryzen 5700x3d 32 GB RAM (3.6 GHz), but I am not satisfied with my performance at all.Most of the games nowadays can't even fully utilize my GPU while my FPS fluctuates from 160 to 90 fps playing at 1440p with high-ultra settings. What cpu should i get?
My biggest bottleneck is my bank balance
Dude, why are you playing my synth playlist in the background?!?!?! lol
I have an AMD R5 3600 overclocked to 4.32ghz, 7900 XT 20GB and 32GB G Skill Trident Z 3600mhz ram. Using a bottleneck calculator my cpu is apparently only 27% bottlenecked but the real bottleneck is my 3x monitors as they are only 75hz 1080p, so I have to cap my FPS or it can cause some screen tearing or stuttering. I know that AMD have scaling settings etc but I think that this should have been mentioned in the video as a contributing factor.
I believe I’m CPU bound. Runnin a 12700kf with a 4070 at 1080p Ultra/Max unless the jump to 1440p doesn’t effect frame rates to much. Thanks for the help!
I think you can definitely go up to 1440p and not loose frames. For most games anyway.
I believe you can actually test that with image scaling in NVIDIA control panel if I remember right.
@@calvinm1866Yeah, I’ll mainly go to 1440 when I’m playing more CPU intensive games EG Minecraft or Valorant, as well as unoptimized titles like TLOU or RE4 Just to get the CPU And GPU to work more in tandem with each other. Thanks for the reply!
@@shrimpwalk8230 Wait really? I didn’t know about that. I’ll test it out. Thanks for the info!
My son has the 12700KF, 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz and the Asus 4070 TUF OC and he plays everything at max on 1440p with no problems at all. He had the Palit GamingPro 3070 before and used the same settings which was just a bit slower. For instance he plays Forza all Ultra settings and the 3070 would hit around 130fps but the 4070 can stay at 165fps.
Just upgraded to attempt to remove all current bottlenecks in games until next gen releases better hardware.
Ryzen 7 7800x3d on an aorus x670e master with 32 gigs corsair vengance 6000 cl30 ddr5 ram, aorus rtx 4090 master, powered by a corsair 1000e psu.
So educational and useful
Thanks Marcus
You forgot to mention the pc case bottleneck🤔
Very informative! Thank you!
Great video on bottlenecks. Following on the same theme could you please do a really simple guide video on setting up an AMD 7950X3D CPU so it shelves the 8 none 3D VCACHE cores whilst gaming, for better gaming performance and better power use? There are no simple videos that cover all the steps which include "this is what it probably looks like before this step, this is what it SHOULD look like after this step, and here is what else to try if it doesn't." Like if there is a windows service missing that you need. Thanks :)
I'm currently on an i9, 13900K with a RTX 3090 TI OC. But, the kicker is my memory. DDR4 @ 3200MHZ. So while multi processor games run amazing, single threaded games like rust or literally anything unity driven just runs like ass. I'm also running a Samsung Evo 970 Evo so in this case as you mentioned, memory is restricting my processor. A single thread game like rust alone uses 11.5GB of memory. Just bought a new board and 25gb of DDR5 at 5500mhz and im expecting significantly better fps on single threaded games.
Gotta talk about Mobo bound because that will affect how high you can run your CPU and RAM
very informative. thanks bro!
For my system, I have a RTX 3070 and R7 5800x (4.7ghz) 16gb ram dual channel 3600mhz CL16 and I play games at 1080p with high-ultra settings single-player and low settings for fps. The problem is that my gpu never gets fully utilised whilst my cpu is around 70-80% + utilisation I'm assuming I have a cpu bottleneck?
Turn up the graphic settings and resolution so that it will utilize more on your GPU instead.
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R5 3600, 12 Gig 3060, Gen 4 M.2 in Gen 4 slot, 16 Gig RAM at 3600 XMP, and i pretty much just play Armello and FFXIV at 1440, 144 FPS.
I'm 99% certain I have a thicker neck than the rest of the bottle.
Very informative video and educational. Though warzone Is gpu bound until you lower your graphics setting to put more load on your cpu. Also twhy is it when ppl say when your gpu is 99% it isn't bottleneck because it's maxed. So that's false information?
720p looks better than 1080p HD, GPU is almost maxed even at 720p on my new RTX 2050 TUF F15 with intel 5 11400H, ROG Boost OC is on even with no usage on performance mode, done everything i can think of
hi liked the video my rig is a 10900k cpu 64gb ddr4 3600 ram on a maximus12 z490 board with a MSI RTX3080 SUPRIM X GPU . there is a bottlencking check site where you can put in the cpu and gpu and it gives an estimate . atm for me even though my rig is getting older it works atm in most of my games . pricing though atm is very high to get a more modern setup so the 40 series gpus and 13 series cpus i will pass on as they are not worth the daft prices for minor fps benefis .
I am not sure if i got this quite right, but you said that if your gpu is constantly at 97% utilization then it is a gpu bottleneck.
By any means i am no expert, but this is a good indicator to say that your cpu(most likely) or other components are limiting the utilization of your gpu by 3%..
meaning you get 3 % fps lower than you should with this particular gpu becasue(most likely assuming there is no fps cap limit) of the cpu. please do correct me if i am mistaken
Gpu bottlenecks are quite obvious most of the times, either by lower vram capacity than expected(you see vram almost maxed out)= very low fps, stutters or even crashes that usually occur on high resolutions with very high graphic settings for older cards
.Or simple quite low fps because the card isnt able to produce enough perfomance.(but this is not a bottleneck technically just a weak card for this game)
Typically all cards have limits but if the perfomance is unstable like mentioned then it is gpu hardware limitations or outdated software related to this,except if this does happen for only particular games which simply most likely are not optimized yet...
BUT____if your card is quite good, then maybe soemtimes you just dont have enough ram for a stable gaming experience.
I have had this issue twice in 1440p with 20gb vram and 16 gb ram and more specifically in forza 5 and fortnite, with full pimped settings, you may need even more than 16gb especially if u do like to multitask. personally i dont care, i ll either close any application running from behind or lower some settings..I just wanted to mention that
i do run 7900xt and 13500 and the gpu utilization for what i play is 100% at 1440p.
i think that if your gpu utilization for the games you play is around or more than 95%(atleast for gpu games oriented) your system is quite balanced and you shouldnt care much really.
100 % is ideal ofcourse, but saving some money for a better card it is always the better choice.
Most of the times a most powerfull card at 95% or even 90% utilization perfomance(meaning there is a 10% bottleneck by your cpu due to compatibility) can be a better choice than a weaker gpu that plays at 100% assuming you chose the exact same specs for both theoretical systems.
there are tons of benchmarks videos on youtube if you are curious what fits with.
Also the good news is that the higher resolution you get the less cpu bottleneck exists,meaning your more expensive card can perform even better from resolution to resolution.
But 4k atleast for now is something you should avoid imo, except if you dont mind upgrading a system constantly, simply because it is quite demanding, atleast for the vast majority of hardware nowdays.
a "4k card" can become quite easily a 1440p in a matter of a few years, especially those running at "low" vram total
He was saying that RTTS, which is the OSD for Afterburner will never report 100% usage.
I have tested this out by using a 1060 and switching to a 4090 on CP2077. The CPU was a 7950x, 32GB @6000 cl30.
Both cards were bottlenecked by the GPU (at different settings of) and GPU usage was reported as 97-98% in both cases.
I switched to a 3090 and not my i9 12900k acting slow😭
CPU said 1-3% usages and gpu be high af
One solution is to stop gaming on PC. The other is to stop using bottles hence no more bottlenecking. 😂
Apparently on my rig the 8600K is a bottleneck for the old 1080TI
13 mins 2 sponsor mentions to end up saying "just get a balanced pc hehe" amazing stuff.
Great video ! So could I get away with putting a 4080 in my rig running a ryzen 7 5800x 32gb ram
My system is rocking a R5 5600 and a RX 5500XT 8GB. Is my CPU more powerful then my GPU? I've never seen my GPU usage go below 96% and most of the time it stays around 99%. CPU usage however, stays around 17% to 30%. To make it much clearer, the games I like to play are F1 22, Ready or Not, NFS Heat, NFS Payback, Warzone, Tarkov. I'm not a graphics hungry player so I usually keep around medium settings in most of my games.
My biggest bottleneck is trying not to bend those pesky pins on an AM5 motherboard cpu socket. 😢😂
Being the proud owner of a 3 and a half year old ACER Nitro 5 17.3” laptop that I use to both play and stream off of simultaneously with no additional monitors (that’s right… my phone is my chat screen hahaha) I know all too well the pain of bottleneck issues, the problem I have is the lack of space for a dedicated PC build and the money to justify it… I will have to live with my 1660Ti (mobile) graphics card for the foreseeable future sadly
I bought a pre built from Best Buy for little over 2,000$ and literally can’t play COD or Fortnite without it shutting down atleast once within 20mins. Thought I’d switch from console to pc and it would be better but it’s been nothing but a headache. Almost took the pc with me to the gun range to use as a target. It’s a Corsair vengeance i7200. CPU- intel core i7, GPU- nvidia rtx 3070, DRAM- 32gb vengeance rgb pro ddr4-3200, STORAGE- 1tb m.2 NVMe + 2tb hdd, MOTHERBOARD-z490 atx, PSU- Corsair rm750 80 plus gold.
Sorry dude, that sucks. What’s the actual CPU model? 12700k or something, I’d guess. A good place to start is getting the latest drivers on everything - especially your GPU.
Edit: pretty sure I found your exact model online and some folks are saying to update your bios and double check the wiring. A lot of people are mentioning loose cables, which might explain your computer turning off.
Your CPU or GPU is overheating. You might have a bad CPU cooler or bad airflow and your PC is getting too hot causing it to turn off by itself
@@jacobvriesema6633 11700k. I took it back to Best Buy and had “geek squad” check it and they said they stressed tested it and it ran fine no problems. I told them to play some games and they will find out but I highly doubt they did. Sometimes I get lucky and it will last an hour but it’s a guarantee every time I hop on it will happen and most likely within 20-30 mins. I don’t know enough to pin point the week link their has to be one. I will check the wires more carefully.
@@LinseySanchez I know if it has bad airflow it isn’t because of me. I put this thing on an empty 8ft table in a big open living room. (I’m a single father) lol I made sure air flow wasn’t the problem before I took to “geek squad”.
Unfortunately, most pre-built from Best Buy and brands like IBuyPower or CyberPower PC have really terrible thermals. I mistakenly bought my first gaming PC and it was HP Omen and it’s temps were already at 90c just running GTA V.
I was thinking of buying more fans or even a new case but I also noticed that the Motherboard, PSU are all proprietary components. So it will be difficult to upgrade and would be better off buying all new parts.
Lesson learned.
Hi bro! Can you please review the Asus Tuf Gaming F17 FX706, with 16gb ram, rtx 3050? There are not enough reviews on this laptop and I'm looking to get it by the end of the year and I want you to give a detailed review of it if possible. Thanks for reading my comment.
I have a i7 12700kf 12th gen atm with a 7900xtx I stream and mainly play cod getting cpu bottlenecking best upgrade choice thinking going ryzen from Intel single pc streamer 2
I'm not sure if I have a bottleneck, but I'm not quite getting the fps i thought I'd get with Assassin's Creed Origins.
I have the following:
Ryzen 9 5950x
RTX 4080
32GB Ram
I play at 1440p at 120fps, and my GPU usage is around 65-76%.
I know this is an AMD title, but in places like Alexandria, i dip to around 80-90fps.
I know it's an intensive area.
I just thought I'd get a constant 120fps as this game isn't the newest.
In simple Term Please, Should your gpu and cpu be at full Speed (100%)
Yes Or No.
Thanks for this interesting video.
Really informative vid, as always! Which of the new GPUs, if any, would you recommend pairing with a Ryzen 5 3600?
RX 5700 XT
Arthur Hastings clearly took his joy.
Probably better to refer to these are "limitations" rather than "bottlenecks", i.e. every PC's performance will always have some sort of limitation
Here is how to fix it....where???!!!...nowhere...just what provokes it and how to test it if you have one, as if i don't see it in the game
I know my cpu (4790k) and RAM (DDR3 1600mhz) are holding me back. Plus, I don't know what I can upgrade to in order to get near or over 100 fps for my 1080ti (to play at 1080p) or just save for a complete PC overhaul instead (2k or 4k gaming)? PS - my TV is 4k 60hz (it was the only one available in my budget that I could get that plays full HD 1920 x 1080 where I live).
Bro was playing warzone 1 😂
How come my pc runs games well but my GPU usage still stays so low around 30-50%. My CPU is usually running higher for all games. I play games like Warzone, CS2, Hell Let Loose etc on higher settings. All my temperatures are great. My specs are:
GPU: RTX 3070 ti
CPU: Ryzen 7 5700x
RAM: 32GB DDR4
PSU: 850w
I currently do have a Sata M.2 SSD storage in and am going to change it to a newer NVMe SSD but I don’t think that’s the problem regardless. Does anyone know any reason why my pc can be running like this? Thank you
A video on the best system for Falllout 4 would get A million views
I have a 4070 Super. I want to upgrade my CPU to the intel i7 13700k. You think that’s a good combo?
i see alot of people saying the 7800X3D is a good pair
I just have a cpu bottleneck, that all I have. I got 4x8GB DDR4 3200 CL16 RAM, Zotac RTX 3050 Twin Edge OC, Ryzen 5 1600 AF 3.6GHz and Crucial P3 SSD.
Why does everyone want so much FPS?! Do you even see difference between 60 and 120+? If I am honest I don’t even see difference between 45 and 60, so I have it locker on 60 and not overheat my GPU, even if I could run games on 120 fps
I wanted that because it means I probably don't need upgrade my pc for next 5 years atleast. And if so I probably dont need new CPU. unless A.I. gonna get some crazy breaktroughs maybe lol
I have a i5 12600k 12 gen I think for me its the 3060 ti which I only have a few weeks. its doing all I need until I save up for a 4070 I have 850w psu so defo can put a bigger card in.
5800X3D CPU, RTX 4060ti 16gb GPU and 32gb DDR4 3600mHz RAM. Marcus you tell me what the bottleneck is in my system please. From Ethen.
I just got a 7900x, Ilove it
RTX 4090 and 5950x worth upgrading the cpu to am5?
my gpu, and vram run at 95-100% on 1080p ultra, no fsr, on starfield. game freezes on loading assets, so i'm sure that's because I've got it installed on a hdd instead of an ssd. Looking to upgrade my 4 year old pc soon anyway, will finally get a high end one :-)
i have a 6700xt paired with a i7 10700f 32gb ddr4 3600mhz but only running at 1066mhz
Nice vid. Does my head in so many comments, will x cpu bottleneck y GPU... It's not a binary answer there are so many variables involved.
And lastly, bottlenecking is not a bad thing! It means you're using a component to it's fullest. In fact the best system is where everything bottlenecks everything else!!
what do you find better i7 13700kf with nvidia 4090
other PC: 4080super with i9 14900k, which one give better FPS?
Great video 👌
I have a 5800x3d and a rx 6800xt have decent frames on all games i play but total war warhammer 3 has mad fps drops
Followed for the crashing effect I thought my phone died 🤣
my 7700X and game engines bottlenecking my 4070Ti in 90% of the games I play :)
There's maybe 2 or 3 times I see the GPU usage above 60%
I’ve only been playing on pc for the last couple years big warzone player and forza horizon and my cpu is maxed out causing terrible lag
A lot of tech channels on youtube, but this one is by far the most enjoyable to watch.
Hello everyone 👋 just wondering if someone could suggest an upgrade for me as I’m struggling to figure out how to get the most improvement/future proofing out of an upgrade. Specs:
Intel i5 11400F
Gigabyte 3070
32gb 3200 mhz RAM
Corsair 850w psu
Msi b560 pro-WiFi mobo
A 500gb Samsung nvme ssd
A barracuda 1TB hhd
A wd 1tb sata drive
And the noctua nh-d15
This setup is mainly used for mil-sim games like squad or he’ll let loose etc and games like star citizen + rust. Thanks for any help or suggestions 👍
Was looking at upgrading to a ryzen 7 7800x3D, 32gb 6000mhz of ddr5 vengeance RAM and a 650 board of some sort with about £1000 of budget. Not sure whether this would be a noticeable and worthwhile upgrade though so I’m yet to pull the trigger.
I have a rtx 3060 a Intel i9, more than enough ram, and a power supply that covers all of it and it still doesn’t preform like it should. My motherboard fits a second graphic card do I do that?
i have an i5 11400f and a 3060 and in fortnite lowest settings when i get into a fight i get drops and low fps lows and my cpu usage is about 80 but gpu is about 20-30. The temps are normal.
Do i need a new cpu or something
Make sure you use High performance mode in the Windows power plan cos the default is Balanced
@@Impaler67 im not that dumb to not use that but it doesnt matter i git new parts and it is good now
my pc has been gpu bottlenecked for around 5 years, i9 9900k and a 1080 ti sc, im planning on upgrading to a 4080 super and then upgrading my cpu, motherboard, ram and cooler at the end of the year. how bad would u say that cpu bottleneck will be?
I'm guessing 100% Utilization of my CPU and only 4% on my GPU is extreme bottle-necking.
Ive got an rtx 4080 with ryzen9 7900x and i think my CPU is bottlenecking the gpu😢 in rdr2 ultra(qhd) i get awful little stutters, CPU lays at ~60% usage and the GPU at 60% as well.
But in god of war maxed the GPU uses 99% of its potential and works great.
Also i'm suprised you mentioned Smite in your video, love that game!
I'm using Asus A455LF with I3-4005U and Nvidia 930M 2GB to play R6 Siege. And let me tell you, I'm puffing a lot of copium with capped 42fps.
I could play 1-2 matches before my laptop starts stuttering and freezing. Any tips on how to reduce freezing especially
Maybe you can help me with this or the audience. I recently received an Asus Strix 3070ti from my father while he got himself an 7900 xtx red devil. My old GPU is a gtx 1650 from MSI. I know I’m bottlenecked because I have a Ryzen 3600. I want to stick with amd because if better thermals and efficiency. I’m between buying and 7700 or a 5800x3d. I feel like those two cpus will do me great and I’m wondering what the audience will say. Thanks! And great video!