I will prepare for long voyages - [I am Byf, insidious] Into the war - [I recorded this notice for you] Into the Deep - [These videos are full of lies!]
Bungie titled him the lore master. And it's my personal belief that extremely accurate leakers like ginsor and anon are actually bungie devs whose job is to seed truth with a bit of falsehood to build up hype. But I don't think byf would be one of those.
I'm right there with you. I jumped for the portal, it disappeared mid-jump, and I feel to my death. I respawned as I was being pulled out of the simulation so I didn't get to see any of it lol
It's definitely Quaria - Blade Transform (Who incidentally is also knows as "The Dreaming Mind"), it would also explain why the Vex are suddenly attacking the Last City despite their fear of Paracausal forces, Savathun is controlling them and *forcing* them to attack despite their fear.
@@EmpyreanReaper it literally says that she caused it, you just contradicted yourself by showing us that reddit post. If the leaks are true, this is gonna be a lit season.
I was up till 5AM last night watching Myelin's stream as read the lore book and then replayed the mission to see the Hydra. There is some JUICY stuff coming, true or not.
"Spoilers for the first mission" Me, who did the first mission: "I died on the way to the portal because I overshot my jump. So did i see that? No, I didnt because I rezzed outside to Mithrax already."
Byf.......altho the prospect of Quoria and Savathûn being the cause of the endless night is terrifying in the Destiny universe......as a player it's incredibly exciting for this storyline to finally be picking up speed again
@@galacticknight3058 treachery is a general term for someone who is deceptive in nature. It’s not something Savathun did, it’s one of her characteristics.
well, we cant ignore any future the future war cult has seen anymore, despite the fact that sounds hard to explain as she even states, but remember what happened last time?
@@melonhead238 Not a bad idea really. Exos themselves seem to have a small bit of darkness influence in their making so her being influenced is not that much of a stretch
That would be peak sword logic Discover sword logic > perform sword logic > simulate the apex of sword logic (Oryx) > be Taken > learn to Take > Take the next best Hive god and work yourself into eternity It would also be ultimate Imbaru, because everyone thought it was Savathûn in charge
Remember the trailer saying that 'at the center of the vex network, there's something that can extinguish humanity" what if they were talking about Quria?
I also noticed Savathuns song in the helm theme where it wasn't before in season of the chosen. When ever we hear Savathuns song it is usually important and I think this shows that Savathuns is in someway involved in this. This would also mean that it is possible that fallen are now in contact with Savathuns song but I don't think that npcs can hear the OST
In one of the FWC weapons, the lore tab is structured the same way as the Season of the Chosen sniper rifle. There's all sorts of stuff in it like "mutated Ghosts" but what worries me is that it ends with "Lakshmi-2: Prophet: Savior." And it hints to Zavala being usurped by Lakshmi.
@@vakuankka9063 Her problem is that she saw a future where the House of Light turns on us. She, like many others, don't trust Mithrax and honestly it sounds that she wants conflict. That's the problem, the future she saw is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If she keeps promoting Anti-Eliskni propaganda, than people will keep attacking the House of Light, and if they keep doing that, than eventually some of them are going to say "fuck it" and start killing citizens. Her attempts at preventing this future will be what causes it.
@@elitegamer9310 the way she described the future it could as easily be that the city is being attacked by an outside force and mithrax is standing in the middle because he's like tryna defend it which would be a common way of twisting prophecy in fiction often we see the prophet misinterpret what they see
I remember I saw the name and thought "eido? That doesn't sound like a normal eliksni name" and then an hour later I realized she was named after sjur eido
Damn, I missed all of that because I tried jumping at the escape portal as it disappeared and fell to my death... it just respawns you outside the Vex domain.
Welp, you were worried about how this season would relate to the Witch Queen? EDIT: I distinctly remember reading some lore from the new season that mentioned "darkness from inside the network" that led to the death of a Splicer, so maybe that's Quria? EDIT 2: Okay, it was the Cryosthesia 77K lore tab, and the exact words are "Inside the portal, dark thread wrapped around her wrist." EDIT 3: Holy shit credit to Jeremy G. for pointing this out but the lore tab for The Deicide contains binary code apparently found in Vanguard systems that, when converted to text, shows a series of letters that are actually _music notes playing out Savathun's Song_ ! This is absolutely nutty! EDIT 4: Just to add to it all, the message is from Aunor who says that it might be a tone sequence, but she hasn't listened to it.
@@dawnpolaris1299 oh I haven’t forgotten. I’ve been on the Savathûn hype train since that Taken Cabal boss in the Red War campaign that had the title “Herald of Savathûn.”
Savathun's Song is also part of the Subjacted Mind's boss music and, while I can't speak for others, I've heard some themes from the Dreaming City in Override when you get into the Network
I got a theory for what's to come: Savathun got inside the Vault of Glass during the Whisper of the Worm mission. She is definitely looking into using the time altering power of the Vex and the Simulation that was pushed on the City to expunge something or Someone (Maybe realting to the last season predictions where Zavala is always dead or missing) from it. I am very wary of where this story arc is going. I though Savathun only had a couple good tricks up her sleeve, but I didn't expect her to try to control the Vex's most advanced technology. She might even be aiming for the Traveler itself...
She doesn't need to aim for the traveler, she just needs to keep doing what she's always done, grow doubt and distrust, so we end up fighting among ourselves and end up weakened for Xivu Arath to mow us down like they did with the cabal. If you think about it, everything this season is looking very similar to how Torobatl fell, Umun Arath got corrupted and mislead into summoning Xivu Arath to Torobatl and now Lakshmi-2 is starting to defy the vanguard, fight house light, and use the vex prediction machines to make something... what do you wanna bet she's gonna end up summoning Xivu too?, or worse...
Byf, you may not read your comments but I need you to see this. We all appreciate you and the work you do to help bring us this amazing lore in such a beautiful 'shoulda been a narrator' voice. Especially pumping out videos so damn frequently lately. Take a rest mate we dont want you to burn out. You do you and we will be here. Promise. Love you
Well let's think about it. If Savathun is doing this, then us stopping them is part of the plan. For all know we might cause a worse curse by stopping this one
And so our fears have been released. The prediction engines? Likely tampered by Savathun. The song? Originated from Savathun. The Wrathborn? Xivu Arath's foul play. Destruction of the Cabal Empire? Xivu Arath once again. The Vex Subjugation? Likely Savathun's doing. Welcome my friends, welcome to the beginning of the end.
I wonder the Darkness will be turning against Savathun, it got upset with her interference during Season of Arrivals. Would be interesting to see how this turns out.
*"IT'S ME, ZAVALA! IT'S ME, ZAVALA! IT WAS ME ALLLL ALONG, ZAVALA!!!!* *YOU ALL BOUGHT IT; YOU ALLLL BOUGHT IT! HOOK, LINE AND SINKER!!! YOU ALL BOUGHT IT!* *EVEN THE OSMIUM COURT BOUGHT IT!* *THE WHOLE GODDAMN CABAL EMPIRE BOUGHT IT!* *EVERY DAMN ONE OF YOU, WERE MADE FOOOLS OF!!!"*
This is definitely a much different feel... when I walked in to this It wasnt the same old run the season, also the Fallen in the tower as allies... amazing.
My friends and I were speculating on this as well, and I believe that there’s no way this isn’t Quria. Bungie said in the Beyond Light Vidoc that Savathun is placing dominoes that she will eventually knock down in Witch Queen, and that is exactly what we’re seeing.
From the lore card of The Deicide shotgun: "My guess is the lettering indicates some kind of audible tone-code pattern, but I haven't listened to it." Who wants to be the audible tone is Savathun's Song?
It's both amazing that Bungie put that into the game... and the community picked up on it and confirmed it so fast. What a great fun state Destiny is in for story and lore. So good!
I always like these videos because the way that you put them together feels like the way a Warlock might teach a new light about the world. You are really capable of simplifying on subjects or expanding on them need be. It gets you really immersed into the lore and world of Destiny. Keep up the great work!
If you've seen the Ginsor datamine, then this question would be quite interesting indeed. There's a lot of future plot points that are coming to D2 that I am very interested in seeing.
I was on the first mission of the season but I died by trying to jump through the portal when it disappeared so I didnt see the Hydra at the end but now that I see what was actually going on and what that Hydra looks like, my heart starts pounding rn because of what all of this could mean
@@darmellis5574 Savathun is setting up the dominos and laying the traps and we're just casually setting them off like we did in that 999 Shattered Throne situation
I am glad to see that I wasn't just seeing things, since I didn't know if it was just me that thought the big hydra looked kinda taken like the Sedius Mind from the challenge of the elders, or Sekrion, Subverted Mind from the taken version of the nexus strike back in D1
It's likely Quria, both based on what you said, and the new lore of the Deicide shotgun: The new lore for the reprised Deicide shotgun has Aunor intercept a binary message that's spreading to all of the FWC, with her noting that some odd hash symbols seem to be randomly dotted throughout the message. Translating the binary reveals them to be letters... letter that if read as tones with the hashes representing sharps, play Savathun's song.
Imagine: we come to do vault of glass, get to atheon, fight about to start up, Quria teleports into atheon killing it. New boss fight against Quria but we only wound it building into a sub plot of the witch queen.
Even better, we kill Atheon normally, but when we do the raid in master difficulty, instead of ending there, a vex portal opens and leads us to a last city assaulted by vex and hive, where we fight Quria on the Botza district with the help of Mithraxx's splicer abilites to split the team into two groups, one surviving Quria with the Aegis and the other attacking the vex network to allow the other team to be able to damage Quria. By the end of the encounter, Quria destroys the Aegis at the cost of her protective shielding and we have final stand to get her low before she erases the entire district from existance, all ending in her retreating after sustaining enough damage, only to come back in witch queen. Holy shit, bungie hire me for raid encounter design.
Looking up lore to see what the dark entity last season could be I stumbled upon Quria and haven't stopped thinking about it since. This season's story so far fits Quria perfectly. So glad you made this video.
In terms of Bungo's plan for storytelling this would make the most sense for the lead up to Witch Queen The previous two seasons have been about Xivu Arath making moves and the consequences of them, and we know she is in league in some way or another with Savathun. So it would make sense that we would see Savathun's other major player Quria make some moves as well.
Another fact to back up Byf's theory is the fact that "Season of the Splice" was supposed to lead into "The Witch Queen" before it got pushed back into 2022.
Actually there is suppost to be a 4th season. If you buy the deluxe edition before the announcment it still said Season of the Hunt and the 3 Seasons of [redacted].
@@bronyazaiche6234 wouldn’t the time constraints not match up though? Because most expansions normally come out early September and this one was slated to last until mid to late August.
@@bronyazaiche6234 fair enough. I was just playing off the idea that they would go back to the September schedule but ya, a full year would make sense marketing wise.
Yeah those are definitely collapsed in arms on its side and it’s very similar to Panoptes, so with the Taken miasma it is Quira, and the fact it can control normal Vex, this is very bad 😬
My friend claims to have caught the name for a fraction of a second because he was right next to the Hydra, and it did say Quria. His reaction was pretty believable. Sadly he didn't record it.
I didn't even see that hydra, mostly because I didn't turn around when they started showing up. So seeing this hydra is bringing me back some serious memories of when the taken invaded the vault of glass.
Now that we're having some what of an alliance with the Eliksni and a cease-fire with the Cabal, I wouldnt be suprised if the next dlc or seasons talk about races fight along side eachother. Hive, Vex, Scorn and Taken for the Darkness vs Humanity, Eliksni, Cabal and the Awoken for the Light. As far fetched as that may be its fun to think about
Glad to find out about this cause I jumped through the portal as it disappeared, fell to my death while Mithraks was talking and respawned next to him. Missed the important few seconds...
In Short and Spoilery: Yes. It's quria and by Proxy Savathun. Source: I actually read the entire Datamined txt for this season. Really good entries, story is gonna slap hard. Look forward boys.
I honestly hadnt even thought of Savathun being involved with this, but would make sense. Also something about that Vex Mind looks different. The White part looks like a regualr Hydra, like the red part is just on top of it.
This kind of content is exactly why I love you so much! Cause even if it is NOT like that... The "what if.."s are just such exciting rabbit holes to dive into... Thanks so much for Your efforts, Sir! Per audacia at astra!
@ShiroiTaiga You said it. Just how many times do you think Byf will be able to pull this off AGAIN (completely out do himself)!? It is just unbelievable. I absolutely love his content; a good blend of factual info. and (VERY well informed) speculation, and some fun (that sounds like a you problem). @My name in Byf I don't know what to say . . . (dumbstruck) . . . and I don't know how you do it, but please-please-PLEASE keep it up.
I was so glad someone else noticed this shit! I was so shook haha. Also. Can we just appreciate the presence of house light fallen in the tower. The world building is already so damn strong this season
Id like to say thank you for the absolutely amazing content that is helping me get through a rough time in my life, Im trying to get through a breakup, and my job doesnt allow any kind of music, so all that goes into my head is the drumming of machinery, i dont have an escape from this, and ive talked to my friends, had helpful talks with them, but im still struggling to get out of the hole, Its been 3 months, (Valentines day exactly, got cheated on, had a guy set up to start a new relationship, and she still wanted to see me and have fun the day of the breakup) Its been really rough, but immersing myself into destiny and its lore has given me stuff to think about, Ive been into the lore since D1 and am loving all of this, thank you so much byf! ❤️
Hey Byf! You've probably already seen this but if you run the binary on The Deicide shotgun lore entry through a translator you get Savathun's viral chant. Considering the system invasions the tower is experiencing are coming from the vex and this is what it leaves behind she's 100% involved with the vex invasion. According to Aunor in the entry it's all over FWC's systems and elsewhere. Implies Lakshmi-2 is being manipulated by Savathun. Also pretty much confirms your theory for me. Love the content and the videos, keep up the great work!
(FAT SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOILERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR) It’s actually confirmed Quoria, data miners found out a weekly mission is literally “Destroy Quoria”
Pelsall I dont think that the hydra is quoria because its too small, has no arms and doesn't have the spike things on his back from the image. I also feel like it would be foolish for savathun to do this as it seems way too direct as she is usually seen as very subtle. We also have to remember that quoria give savathun direct control of the taken so it would wise for to keep quoria close to her as she would not want to lose the taken which is a vital part of her plans in the past. If she were to lose quoria then she would lose the taken, dreaming city and anything that's connected to the taken. Every move that she makes, she ensures it to be in her favour from the dreaming city to the 999 shattered throne solo completion.
That has to be quria. It’s the largest hydra out of all of them, it’s the only one without a shield surrounding it, and it has the same coloring as the light-eater ogres and taken colossus from TTK. There are too many visual similarities to oryx’s taken for it so simply be a visual spawning glitch. Man, witch queen is gonna be crazy
I think that is a taken hydra because it looks similar to the strike boss in the lake of shadows with the one part of it looking not taken and the other half looking really taken
I do believe that it is in fact savathum and quria. And what ran through my mind when you got to Osiris's quote was "oh no... the dreaming city was a only a test run and we never figured out how to break it."
This was a prediction of mine that I had, especially given the fact that a Bungie writer said that every season within this year would be Savathun setting up and toppling over dominoes
There are a few more savathun hints in the coming lore tabs, specifically her song is imbedded in FWC messages and is being investigated by the praxic order
Plot twist: Byf is Savathuun and he's been misleading us the entire time.
I will prepare for long voyages - [I am Byf, insidious]
Into the war - [I recorded this notice for you]
Into the Deep - [These videos are full of lies!]
He infected me with her song, and always talks about how powerful she is
Yo, what if he's just gonna be Savathun's VA and we've been lied to about her gender. Like she gains power every time we call her 'she.'
@@josefzalusky7307 I mean she gains power from deception, so it’s not out of the question
Bungie titled him the lore master. And it's my personal belief that extremely accurate leakers like ginsor and anon are actually bungie devs whose job is to seed truth with a bit of falsehood to build up hype. But I don't think byf would be one of those.
Bungie Emp 1: “Actually it was just a glit-“
Employee 2: “SHUT UP AND WRITE THAT DOWN!”
I fell to my death when the exit disappeared :'(
@@Richard-jm3um same, they hella got me, I didn't even hesitate
@@semajnosnhoj6351 I saw the lasers behind me and was like f*ck this shit I'm out, just to fall and have my ghost revive me near mithrax :(
@@Richard-jm3um same here, my buddy got a good laugh XD
@@Richard-jm3um I almost did I got so confused I thought the game bugged out
Bro I didn’t even LOOK in that direction, that’s so fucking cool.
I'm right there with you. I jumped for the portal, it disappeared mid-jump, and I feel to my death. I respawned as I was being pulled out of the simulation so I didn't get to see any of it lol
@@zombiepicnic9683 That's exactly what happened to me!
@@GajeSteel me too
I did get a GLIMPS of that crimson tin can when I respawned
Same
It's definitely Quaria - Blade Transform (Who incidentally is also knows as "The Dreaming Mind"), it would also explain why the Vex are suddenly attacking the Last City despite their fear of Paracausal forces, Savathun is controlling them and *forcing* them to attack despite their fear.
That in itself is not Quaria...check what raidsecrets has datamined 😉
@@OrbitalArrow what did they datamine
@@zenenenene Take a look:
www.reddit.com/r/raidsecrets/comments/na3mca/insane_news_in_the_ginsor_text_dump/
@@EmpyreanReaper Damn, I can’t wait to see this all play out. I hope we get to kill Lakshmi or it is at least on screen
@@EmpyreanReaper it literally says that she caused it, you just contradicted yourself by showing us that reddit post.
If the leaks are true, this is gonna be a lit season.
Bungo:
You think anyone will notice if we put Quoria in for 2 seconds?
Also Bungo:
Screw it Byf prolly already knows...
I was up till 5AM last night watching Myelin's stream as read the lore book and then replayed the mission to see the Hydra. There is some JUICY stuff coming, true or not.
Tldr, the love triangle between Savathuun, Zavala and Quaria was charged with so much [Redacted] tension that the sun popped like a balloon.
what
Dr. Bright was the man behind it all.
@@Andrew-ry9be if it's not already on the list add it
And the helmet stayed on
"Spoilers for the first mission"
Me, who did the first mission: "I died on the way to the portal because I overshot my jump. So did i see that? No, I didnt because I rezzed outside to Mithrax already."
Oh my god I did the same thing and got so mad for being a stupid
SAME!!!!
Yoo you did too.
It makes me so happy to know that I am not alone in doing that.
Lol
Alternate Title: “Was it Eva Levante?”
We all know those cookies are just too damn good.
That would be one hell of a plot twist.
I'm seriously gonna lose my shit if space abuela doesn't hack the vex network for halloween.
yeah those cookies seem unnatural
Byf.......altho the prospect of Quoria and Savathûn being the cause of the endless night is terrifying in the Destiny universe......as a player it's incredibly exciting for this storyline to finally be picking up speed again
The Far Future lore tab links up with this, in one of the potential futures mentions Vex and Savathun's treachery. Right?
Savathun’s treachery? Sorry, not that educated in the lore.
@@galacticknight3058 treachery is a general term for someone who is deceptive in nature. It’s not something Savathun did, it’s one of her characteristics.
@@comicartifact the signs of studying enveloped on me. Bahaha
It states multiple timelines not just the one. The Cabal try to find the right timeline to try and achieve.
Edit: The first timeline is Dark Future.
Totally unrelated but somebody told me that in a lore tab It says that zavala has begun to grow stubble. He had a beard in the dark timeline
Future War Cult Leader: I'm going to do something
Me: B*tch you better leave Mithrax and The House of Light alone
@B - ik
@B - Exo cigars are a hell of drug.
well, we cant ignore any future the future war cult has seen anymore, despite the fact that sounds hard to explain as she even states, but remember what happened last time?
LAKSHMI MIGHT BEING FED LIES, IF SAVATHUN IS CONTROLLING THE VEX THEN SHE MIGHT BE FEEDING THESE NEW VISIONS TO LAKSHMI TO DISTRUST THE HOUSE OF LIGHT
@@melonhead238 Not a bad idea really. Exos themselves seem to have a small bit of darkness influence in their making so her being influenced is not that much of a stretch
Plot twist: Quria took Savathùn and is leading a lie to get us to believe it's her
That is better since being taken and not fooling anyone means her worm will kill her and we have to kill a hydra only not some god
That would be peak sword logic
Discover sword logic > perform sword logic > simulate the apex of sword logic (Oryx) > be Taken > learn to Take > Take the next best Hive god and work yourself into eternity
It would also be ultimate Imbaru, because everyone thought it was Savathûn in charge
Remember the trailer saying that 'at the center of the vex network, there's something that can extinguish humanity" what if they were talking about Quria?
Honestly I thought it was gonna be SIVA, but your theory is more likely
@@proper7439 can't wait for a siva season
I wonder if all the bosses in VOG will have the prefix, "Subjugated" in their names...
Subjugated Atheon getting Subjugated for the millionth time come saturday next week
That would actually be really cool
i missed this because i fell off the map trying to jump into the portal and now i cant replay! damn you bungo.
lmao same
Same
Make a new character
Same
Dude same.
Hive this hive that I'd like a long vacation from the constant hive threat those things really creep me out
@Matisyaya I beg to differ. Thrall melee, wizard blasts (I think) and hive boomers all do arc damage
I would too. However they're the champion's of the darkness and we're the champion's of light.
How we all feel about cabal rn lmao
I'd recommend you go to Titan where you can enjoy relaxing methane baths!
I want more Hive. I want to enjoy breaking them upon my Liars Handshake and show them what the real sword logic is
I also noticed Savathuns song in the helm theme where it wasn't before in season of the chosen. When ever we hear Savathuns song it is usually important and I think this shows that Savathuns is in someway involved in this. This would also mean that it is possible that fallen are now in contact with Savathuns song but I don't think that npcs can hear the OST
Oh shit i didn’t even think about the fallen being exposed to it 😬🤔
Some redjacks (or maybe Crow) whistled her song back in Chosen
In one of the FWC weapons, the lore tab is structured the same way as the Season of the Chosen sniper rifle. There's all sorts of stuff in it like "mutated Ghosts" but what worries me is that it ends with "Lakshmi-2: Prophet: Savior." And it hints to Zavala being usurped by Lakshmi.
Well. Or her hoping to usurp Zavala. I don't like her introduction this season. She's definitely going to cause trouble.
Lakshmi is so fkn radical
@@vakuankka9063 Her problem is that she saw a future where the House of Light turns on us. She, like many others, don't trust Mithrax and honestly it sounds that she wants conflict. That's the problem, the future she saw is a self-fulfilling prophecy. If she keeps promoting Anti-Eliskni propaganda, than people will keep attacking the House of Light, and if they keep doing that, than eventually some of them are going to say "fuck it" and start killing citizens. Her attempts at preventing this future will be what causes it.
She serves the same purpose as Saladin from last season. The other side of the spectrum.
@@elitegamer9310 the way she described the future it could as easily be that the city is being attacked by an outside force and mithrax is standing in the middle because he's like
tryna defend it
which would be a common way of twisting prophecy in fiction often we see the prophet misinterpret what they see
Whisper music playing in the background of this was an excellent idea
We finally meet the daughter of light from truth’s lore she’s mitraak’s adopted daughter name eido
I remember I saw the name and thought "eido? That doesn't sound like a normal eliksni name" and then an hour later I realized she was named after sjur eido
Damn, I missed all of that because I tried jumping at the escape portal as it disappeared and fell to my death... it just respawns you outside the Vex domain.
Welp, you were worried about how this season would relate to the Witch Queen?
EDIT: I distinctly remember reading some lore from the new season that mentioned "darkness from inside the network" that led to the death of a Splicer, so maybe that's Quria?
EDIT 2: Okay, it was the Cryosthesia 77K lore tab, and the exact words are "Inside the portal, dark thread wrapped around her wrist."
EDIT 3: Holy shit credit to Jeremy G. for pointing this out but the lore tab for The Deicide contains binary code apparently found in Vanguard systems that, when converted to text, shows a series of letters that are actually _music notes playing out Savathun's Song_ ! This is absolutely nutty!
EDIT 4: Just to add to it all, the message is from Aunor who says that it might be a tone sequence, but she hasn't listened to it.
No one:
Byf when literally anything happens : it was Savathun
To be fair, with Witch Queen being the next major expansion, we have good reason to assume that.
@@willcaster819 don't forget she's had her hand in other stuff that's happened. Like the song most predominantly, and also the crown of sorrows.
Clearly it's mephisto
(Hoping someone here watches newrockstars)
@@dawnpolaris1299 oh I haven’t forgotten. I’ve been on the Savathûn hype train since that Taken Cabal boss in the Red War campaign that had the title “Herald of Savathûn.”
It was savathun all along
Dude not only did you predict that there was taken involved, but you also predicted savuthuns involvement
Savathun's Song is also part of the Subjacted Mind's boss music and, while I can't speak for others, I've heard some themes from the Dreaming City in Override when you get into the Network
I 100% think it's Taken. The purple color on top and the bottom more translucent half is reminiscent of the Seditous Mind from D1
Not to mention the taken tendrils atop the hydra's chassis.
Looks like the taken Nexus mind too
I always love it when Byf gets into his lore mode. It’s the main reason why I watched this content to begin with. They’re just so damn good.
I found him that way too
i was desperately trying to remember why I don't remember the hydras...until I remembered that I was busy falling to my death
I got a theory for what's to come:
Savathun got inside the Vault of Glass during the Whisper of the Worm mission. She is definitely looking into using the time altering power of the Vex and the Simulation that was pushed on the City to expunge something or Someone (Maybe realting to the last season predictions where Zavala is always dead or missing) from it. I am very wary of where this story arc is going. I though Savathun only had a couple good tricks up her sleeve, but I didn't expect her to try to control the Vex's most advanced technology. She might even be aiming for the Traveler itself...
She doesn't need to aim for the traveler, she just needs to keep doing what she's always done, grow doubt and distrust, so we end up fighting among ourselves and end up weakened for Xivu Arath to mow us down like they did with the cabal.
If you think about it, everything this season is looking very similar to how Torobatl fell, Umun Arath got corrupted and mislead into summoning Xivu Arath to Torobatl and now Lakshmi-2 is starting to defy the vanguard, fight house light, and use the vex prediction machines to make something... what do you wanna bet she's gonna end up summoning Xivu too?, or worse...
Byf, you may not read your comments but I need you to see this. We all appreciate you and the work you do to help bring us this amazing lore in such a beautiful 'shoulda been a narrator' voice. Especially pumping out videos so damn frequently lately. Take a rest mate we dont want you to burn out. You do you and we will be here. Promise. Love you
Don't you hate it when your too busy watching byf's videos to notice that byf uploaded a new video
I saw it for a fraction of a second and my heart absolutely dropped. She's here...she's finally here...
Byf I appreciate the lore speed runs you do to get these out so fast.
Well let's think about it. If Savathun is doing this, then us stopping them is part of the plan.
For all know we might cause a worse curse by stopping this one
That the whole point of savathun bc she is god of trickery
And so our fears have been released. The prediction engines? Likely tampered by Savathun. The song? Originated from Savathun. The Wrathborn? Xivu Arath's foul play. Destruction of the Cabal Empire? Xivu Arath once again. The Vex Subjugation? Likely Savathun's doing.
Welcome my friends, welcome to the beginning of the end.
Also Savathûn was behind the Hive invasion of Torobatl. She corrupted Umun'Arath and used her to summon Xivu Arath.
I wonder the Darkness will be turning against Savathun, it got upset with her interference during Season of Arrivals.
Would be interesting to see how this turns out.
*"IT'S ME, ZAVALA! IT'S ME, ZAVALA! IT WAS ME ALLLL ALONG, ZAVALA!!!!*
*YOU ALL BOUGHT IT; YOU ALLLL BOUGHT IT! HOOK, LINE AND SINKER!!! YOU ALL BOUGHT IT!*
*EVEN THE OSMIUM COURT BOUGHT IT!*
*THE WHOLE GODDAMN CABAL EMPIRE BOUGHT IT!*
*EVERY DAMN ONE OF YOU, WERE MADE FOOOLS OF!!!"*
@@stephenviterbo1351 What in the actual fu-
Nah we clapped oryx, we'll best Savathun aswell.
This is definitely a much different feel... when I walked in to this It wasnt the same old run the season, also the Fallen in the tower as allies... amazing.
I hope you cover the lore here in Season of the Splicer involving Crow, Saladin and the people's reaction to the Fallen cuz hooooooooly shit dude.
the thing that I picked up on was the fact that the hydra's head/top half bit looks like the same shape and style as Oryx's head.
My friends and I were speculating on this as well, and I believe that there’s no way this isn’t Quria. Bungie said in the Beyond Light Vidoc that Savathun is placing dominoes that she will eventually knock down in Witch Queen, and that is exactly what we’re seeing.
Also if you look in the API one of the missions for the season " Defeat Quria"
Byf theory videos are my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE videos
This theory makes also so much sense
From the lore card of The Deicide shotgun: "My guess is the lettering indicates some kind of audible tone-code pattern, but I haven't listened to it." Who wants to be the audible tone is Savathun's Song?
Turns out... it is her song.
someone decoded it and yea it turned out to be savathuns song a really cool easter egg
It's both amazing that Bungie put that into the game... and the community picked up on it and confirmed it so fast. What a great fun state Destiny is in for story and lore. So good!
I always like these videos because the way that you put them together feels like the way a Warlock might teach a new light about the world. You are really capable of simplifying on subjects or expanding on them need be. It gets you really immersed into the lore and world of Destiny. Keep up the great work!
Destiny lore gets deep. And I personally, love deep lore. Your content is amazing my friend and would love to know more.
If you've seen the Ginsor datamine, then this question would be quite interesting indeed. There's a lot of future plot points that are coming to D2 that I am very interested in seeing.
First time I played the opening mission, I sprinted and jumped through the portal, and immediately fell to my death
I was on the first mission of the season but I died by trying to jump through the portal when it disappeared so I didnt see the Hydra at the end but now that I see what was actually going on and what that Hydra looks like, my heart starts pounding rn because of what all of this could mean
what could that mean?
@@darmellis5574 Savathun is setting up the dominos and laying the traps and we're just casually setting them off like we did in that 999 Shattered Throne situation
that moment when all he's saying clicks in your head
*oh shit*
I am glad to see that I wasn't just seeing things, since I didn't know if it was just me that thought the big hydra looked kinda taken like the Sedius Mind from the challenge of the elders, or Sekrion, Subverted Mind from the taken version of the nexus strike back in D1
Also the fact it's hydra...wing...things (?) look more elongated than the average hydra, almost like its mimicking Oryx's signature hammerhead look
So my theory is that the helm is a colony ship being built
Could be why we can’t access the helm from the tower itself
@@icjmk2890 (Why we can’t access the helm from the tower itself.) Anymore, last season we could.
@@kaizon565 no I mean like the tower being directly connected to the helm instead of it in a different zone
Beyond Light = faster than light or out of the sol system?
It does have almost everything we need.
A month later and naturally byf is correct
this aged well
One if the FWC shotguns has lore in it that has binary code that when translated produces a series of notes that when played produces Savathuns Song 😱
Me; who's read the Raid secrets lore spoilers on the Reddit:
*Oh boy is everyone in for a good time*
It's likely Quria, both based on what you said, and the new lore of the Deicide shotgun:
The new lore for the reprised Deicide shotgun has Aunor intercept a binary message that's spreading to all of the FWC, with her noting that some odd hash symbols seem to be randomly dotted throughout the message. Translating the binary reveals them to be letters... letter that if read as tones with the hashes representing sharps, play Savathun's song.
The rapid uploads from lore daddy byf 😩😩😩
Noticed as well when doing override, the final boss sometimes leaves a weird taken swirl like ones certain enemies have when you kill them
If true, Savathun be like: "Whose been pulling all the evil strings, it was Savathun all along..."
It was me Savathun !
And she killed sparky too.
@@antares8826 and she killed Cayde too.
@@Supernovaisayoutuber Weren't it the nine who were indirectly responsible for cayde's death?
@@antares8826 I actually don't know
Seeing this video after this weeks Splicer mission is crazy
Imagine: we come to do vault of glass, get to atheon, fight about to start up, Quria teleports into atheon killing it. New boss fight against Quria but we only wound it building into a sub plot of the witch queen.
Even better, we kill Atheon normally, but when we do the raid in master difficulty, instead of ending there, a vex portal opens and leads us to a last city assaulted by vex and hive, where we fight Quria on the Botza district with the help of Mithraxx's splicer abilites to split the team into two groups, one surviving Quria with the Aegis and the other attacking the vex network to allow the other team to be able to damage Quria.
By the end of the encounter, Quria destroys the Aegis at the cost of her protective shielding and we have final stand to get her low before she erases the entire district from existance, all ending in her retreating after sustaining enough damage, only to come back in witch queen.
Holy shit, bungie hire me for raid encounter design.
Loved hearing the music from the whisper mission in the background! Still my favourite piece of D2 music!
I’ve been calling this since the season trailer.
Looking up lore to see what the dark entity last season could be I stumbled upon Quria and haven't stopped thinking about it since.
This season's story so far fits Quria perfectly. So glad you made this video.
Inb4 FWC is being manipulated by savathun through that machine they use to see the future.
Ohhhh I hope that happens. Gonna be real sweet.
Thank you byf! I never saw that hydra at the beginning
Well, this kinda means Quoria should start considering whether it wants to be a hand cannon or a pulse rifle...
Or a scout rifle like Oryx was
Nah mate, make Quria a Sword, just so the "Blade-Transform" part can be interpreted literally
@@ValkyrianPrime I can picture her as a sword
In terms of Bungo's plan for storytelling this would make the most sense for the lead up to Witch Queen
The previous two seasons have been about Xivu Arath making moves and the consequences of them, and we know she is in league in some way or another with Savathun.
So it would make sense that we would see Savathun's other major player Quria make some moves as well.
Another fact to back up Byf's theory is the fact that "Season of the Splice" was supposed to lead into "The Witch Queen" before it got pushed back into 2022.
Actually there is suppost to be a 4th season. If you buy the deluxe edition before the announcment it still said Season of the Hunt and the 3 Seasons of [redacted].
@@bronyazaiche6234 Season 12 was Hunt/Beyond Light and then 3 seasons until the next big DLC.
@@bronyazaiche6234 wouldn’t the time constraints not match up though? Because most expansions normally come out early September and this one was slated to last until mid to late August.
@@vastrsi At the time they didnt have a release date so I think they wanted to release it somewhere in November again so we have a full year.
@@bronyazaiche6234 fair enough. I was just playing off the idea that they would go back to the September schedule but ya, a full year would make sense marketing wise.
Byf you are just the best lore master. I can’t be the only one who feels like everyone will have just seen that hydra and seen it as just another vex?
Check out the datamines from ginsor and others. This season is going to be WILD
Where do i find them?
Ginsor on twitter
Thanks for covering the end of that mission, I went right for the portal and stepped on it went it despawned, went right off the edge of the platform.
Notice how the taken hydra has some weird wing-like appendages on its back?
Wasn't Quria depicted with wings in the books of sorrow?
Yes she was
Yeah those are definitely collapsed in arms on its side and it’s very similar to Panoptes, so with the Taken miasma it is Quira, and the fact it can control normal Vex, this is very bad 😬
ngl this video and theory makes me think “oh dear. it’s coming isn’t it?”
ua-cam.com/video/C27KTkoYUf0/v-deo.html We will need this
it fits. can you do a vid on the lore of the survivors epitaph. basically shaxx and mithrax having a heart to heart and survivors guilt
My friend claims to have caught the name for a fraction of a second because he was right next to the Hydra, and it did say Quria. His reaction was pretty believable. Sadly he didn't record it.
aaaaannd Now I'm gonna go test this 😎
@@Xenronnify Dewit! I can't, as you can only do the mission once on the account.
I didn't even see that hydra, mostly because I didn't turn around when they started showing up.
So seeing this hydra is bringing me back some serious memories of when the taken invaded the vault of glass.
Random observation: Eliksni hatchlings are kinda cute. :)
Random?! Have you visited the internet lately? Eliksnitty-Bitties are the most amazing thing ever.
Now that we're having some what of an alliance with the Eliksni and a cease-fire with the Cabal, I wouldnt be suprised if the next dlc or seasons talk about races fight along side eachother. Hive, Vex, Scorn and Taken for the Darkness vs Humanity, Eliksni, Cabal and the Awoken for the Light. As far fetched as that may be its fun to think about
Seeing how it was just leaked a few hours ago it’s 100% confirmed
Glad to find out about this cause I jumped through the portal as it disappeared, fell to my death while Mithraks was talking and respawned next to him. Missed the important few seconds...
In Short and Spoilery:
Yes. It's quria and by Proxy Savathun.
Source: I actually read the entire Datamined txt for this season. Really good entries, story is gonna slap hard. Look forward boys.
Did the same man, this arcs we are getting for Splicer are looking reaaaal good, all the Quria and Mithrax stuff looks so damn promising.
Same...This is such a good season story wise, but now I really to know what happened to Osiris!
Yea! Lakshmi-2 made weird comments about a disagreeing Saladin already, and a lightless Osiris going missing is... Worrying.
I honestly hadnt even thought of Savathun being involved with this, but would make sense. Also something about that Vex Mind looks different. The White part looks like a regualr Hydra, like the red part is just on top of it.
Thumbnail looks like someones holding JöTHUN and hipfireing it at the city
or am i crazy?
You're not alone.
This kind of content is exactly why I love you so much!
Cause even if it is NOT like that... The "what if.."s are just such exciting rabbit holes to dive into...
Thanks so much for Your efforts, Sir!
Per audacia at astra!
@ShiroiTaiga
You said it. Just how many times do you think Byf will be able to pull this off AGAIN (completely out do himself)!? It is just unbelievable.
I absolutely love his content; a good blend of factual info. and (VERY well informed) speculation, and some fun (that sounds like a you problem).
@My name in Byf
I don't know what to say . . . (dumbstruck) . . . and I don't know how you do it, but please-please-PLEASE keep it up.
Destiny community:It’s Quria
Bungie: It’s suppose to look like the gorgons
Damn those S’s when you’re talking are ripping my eardrums apart
I was so glad someone else noticed this shit! I was so shook haha. Also. Can we just appreciate the presence of house light fallen in the tower. The world building is already so damn strong this season
Id like to say thank you for the absolutely amazing content that is helping me get through a rough time in my life, Im trying to get through a breakup, and my job doesnt allow any kind of music, so all that goes into my head is the drumming of machinery, i dont have an escape from this, and ive talked to my friends, had helpful talks with them, but im still struggling to get out of the hole, Its been 3 months, (Valentines day exactly, got cheated on, had a guy set up to start a new relationship, and she still wanted to see me and have fun the day of the breakup) Its been really rough, but immersing myself into destiny and its lore has given me stuff to think about, Ive been into the lore since D1 and am loving all of this, thank you so much byf! ❤️
Is it even legal to be this early?
Hey Byf! You've probably already seen this but if you run the binary on The Deicide shotgun lore entry through a translator you get Savathun's viral chant. Considering the system invasions the tower is experiencing are coming from the vex and this is what it leaves behind she's 100% involved with the vex invasion. According to Aunor in the entry it's all over FWC's systems and elsewhere. Implies Lakshmi-2 is being manipulated by Savathun. Also pretty much confirms your theory for me. Love the content and the videos, keep up the great work!
(FAT SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOILERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR)
It’s actually confirmed Quoria, data miners found out a weekly mission is literally “Destroy Quoria”
Label this as spoilers not everyone has read the datamine
@@lordcommandershadowstarwor7849 Done, forgot that thanks for reminding
Pelsall I dont think that the hydra is quoria because its too small, has no arms and doesn't have the spike things on his back from the image. I also feel like it would be foolish for savathun to do this as it seems way too direct as she is usually seen as very subtle. We also have to remember that quoria give savathun direct control of the taken so it would wise for to keep quoria close to her as she would not want to lose the taken which is a vital part of her plans in the past. If she were to lose quoria then she would lose the taken, dreaming city and anything that's connected to the taken. Every move that she makes, she ensures it to be in her favour from the dreaming city to the 999 shattered throne solo completion.
That has to be quria. It’s the largest hydra out of all of them, it’s the only one without a shield surrounding it, and it has the same coloring as the light-eater ogres and taken colossus from TTK. There are too many visual similarities to oryx’s taken for it so simply be a visual spawning glitch. Man, witch queen is gonna be crazy
I think that is a taken hydra because it looks similar to the strike boss in the lake of shadows with the one part of it looking not taken and the other half looking really taken
I do believe that it is in fact savathum and quria. And what ran through my mind when you got to Osiris's quote was "oh no... the dreaming city was a only a test run and we never figured out how to break it."
Thank you for using the Whisper mission music. It's so good
When I noticed that the hydra was taken and had the most intense rush of video game chills run down my spine. This is getting JUICY
This was a prediction of mine that I had, especially given the fact that a Bungie writer said that every season within this year would be Savathun setting up and toppling over dominoes
There are a few more savathun hints in the coming lore tabs, specifically her song is imbedded in FWC messages and is being investigated by the praxic order