*I am not sexually attracted to the hour- glass figure robot, I am not sexually attracted to the hour- glass figure robot* (P.s. when my mom found out starwars was on Adult swim, I wasn't allowed to watch it on CN anymore.)
Two things 1.) You’re so real for saying you can lift up animation as a media without putting down cartoons. As a fellow fan of Big City Greens, sometimes silly cartoons can exists and I’m glad they do. They can both exist and you can get different enjoyment from both 2.) A Flapjack and/or Chowder retrospective would be really cool especially with the similarities between the two I’ve noticed Keep up the great work my dude 👍👍
Regarding #1, it's so weird how hypocritical some animation fans are. Like, first of all, people forget that the only reason why we get these big, dramatic, mature animated movies and shows is because the goofy shit came first. Without silly, gag filled cartoons like in the rubber hose era or the Merry Melodies-type era, animation probably wouldn't have lasted. Old Disney, Looney Tunes, and Hanna-Barbara shorts/shows paved the road that these guys spit on. People are so worried about how people judge their taste in media, and whether or not they're seen as being childish for liking cartoons, that they'll endorse some of the most immature content simply because it's R rated and makes them feel like an adult. It drives me nuts especially since I like animated stuff for all age ranges. I tend to prefer kid-oriented stuff because sex and gore doesn't really appeal to me (and censor limitations often result in better/more clever jokes IMO) but I still like plenty of mature-audience cartoons (Bojack Horseman, Invincible, and parts of South Park are the first ones that come to mind. I'm also slowly working through Bob's Burgers and have really been enjoying it.) On one hand, I get it. When I tell people that the majority of my favorite movies and shows are stuff that's for kids, I get a weird look. My friends/family don't take me seriously. And I don't have anyone willing to talk about animation aside from "so about those Disney remakes" type conversations. It sucks that adults view kid-appropriate media in such a bad light, because there are a ton of gems. A good story is a good story, no matter who it's for. But other fans in this community just get so defensive when no one else gets this weird about what movies or shows they like (or snobbish.) It's just frustrating. Thanks for reading my lil rant.
I absolutely want a Flapjack and Chowder retrospective, but they both have to be the same video because of how intertwined those shows are to me. I remember them premiering back to back and watching them both. They're like two halfs of a whole, you can't separate them, or you'll be missing part of the story.
an hour and 20 in, genuinely always such a pleasure to watch you talk about things i do not know or otherwise care about. I recently figured out that my parents stopped paying for cable in 2008, so these hit a really interesting niche of content i never watched but heard about and really core memories from right before i became a pbskids solo. i would love to see a chowder video :)
1:10:00 As a Season 1 Ahsoka enjoyer, I thought I would weigh in here. You are correct fans see this as an important Ahsoka episode, however this is not the episode that stopped the hate. Ahsoka hate continued for years [or seasons] beyond this episode, fans have just noted this was the major first sign of her initial character arc beginning, which is generally seen as being felt most in 4 episodes, another being the Tera Sinube episode for example. I believe there is a video titled similar to "How Filoni fixed Ahsoka in 4 episodes" which highlights this, and more interestingly the fandom belief that there was something wrong with Ahsoka, that Filoni had to "fix". Personally, whilst Ahsoka totally improves from the movie, through season 1, and beyond, I do believe the full hatred of her is more the fault of sexism than her writing, especially as though her charisma with Anakin in season 1 is lacking at times, she is also usually split from Anakin Edit: I am now 30 minutes later into the video, Geonosis arc episode 2. YES. Luminara is the worst. She doesn't make any main appearances after this, though as a character she remains relevant, due to stuff said about her, and how she treated Bariss. She is the most extreme example of "Jedi should hold no attachments". Anakin is in clear opposition this, being the most attached Jedi, and his said attachments ultimately lead to his downfall, though it is the order forcing him to hide them and manipulating him that truly seals his fate. The prequels ain't great, but the clone wars links into pre-existing prequel content in ways that make it feel planned out and better set up, most clearly being Anakin's fall
not disagreeing with you there are definitely sexist people that don't like Ashoka but writing off every critic of the character as one is sad behavior.
@@AnAverageGoblin Totally. Maybe I wasn't specific enough, but I meant that I blame the hatred on sexism, not the criticism of her character. Whilst the Clone Wars might be my favourite show ever, it's first 2 seasons are full of major issues, one of the most clear being the depth of its characters
@@robozxd2857 you say that, but it still sounds like you think people that don't like her are sexist. I'm not even sure I understand what you mean? and just in case you do have some weird deep seated issue you don't realize you have I won't try to say I get it. to make things clear I've never liked Ahsoka, wouldn't go as far as saying I hate her but that doesn't mean I'm sexist or some dumb shit like that. I just think (especially as time went on) she overstayed her welcome and became something close to a mary-sue or OC from the guy that created her. thats not to say she didn't grow and improve. its just that those moments where she was well written and worked are overshadowed by the Mary-Sue-esque "this is my super cool padawan/jedi oc" end of her appearances that I think ruined her character.
@@AnAverageGoblin Ok, but like, if you'd rather work off how I sound than what I'm saying, there may be little point in trying to defend myself. Just as an idea, I'm going to throw in some of my own Ahsoka criticisms. Whilst I wouldn't call her a mary-sue, I have to agree that she has overstayed her welcome, at least in the sense that she's currently being overused. This constant usage as of late has led to some great stuff, such as the last 4 episodes of the Clone Wars, but also led to her being revived in season 4 of Rebels, which ruined her original death scene, made Rebels just make less sense overall, and then begged the question, "So, if Ahsoka is around for the whole original trilogy, why is she doing absolutely nothing?". Her usage in Tales of the Jedi worsened its consistency of quality, as whilst the Dooku content was well written and interesting, Ahsoka's half was mostly retreading old ground, or completely unnecessary. She also made appearances in the Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett, where she added very little besides something fans to get excited over. Personally, it seems Filoni is too attached to her and is refusing to let the character lose relevance [The clearest example being him confirming that even though her voice is heard in TROS as part of the force, she is still alive], and he seems to be doing a similar thing to Rex. As a side point, my initial comment was based on how audiences treat certain characters. Audiences give some characters the benefit of time to develop before casting judgment on them, whereas they will assign other characters with being poor before they are given the chance to develop. I think this audience disparity is seen with Ahsoka, specifically that Filoni had to "fix" her, rather than presuming the character arc that began in season 1 was planned the whole time. This issue of audience judgment is often related to minority characters as a whole, who are often called out for not having any flaws, which is blamed on representation, but then in cases when those characters have flaws to be addressed as a part of a story, that kind of audience refuses to acknowledge that the flaws may be intentional and makes accusations of poor writing. Unless like, anything said next is like, some kinda really wild take I have to acknowledge for my sanity, I'm gonna stop replying, as I don't think I can prove any strength of character in a comments section to someone who has made up their mind
@@robozxd2857 I don't think I said anything about how I thought she had no strengths, but maybe it sounded like I did? so sorry if that was the case. not trying to flame you either.
I do want a chowder retrospective, mainly because i can imagine you explaining what real life food every character is named after. It would take up like 15 minutes of the video but i imagine it wouldnt be all crammed together in one block, you'd probably just stop in the middle of a sentence and have a quick aside every time a new character is introduced. Thats just the vibe i get. "So they go to see Gazpacho - Gazpacho is like this chilled tomato soup thats considered really fancy for some reason but like, its just cold tomato soup - who's this kind of wooly mammoth guy who runs a wholesaler grocery stand and has some concerning dialogue about his relationship with his mother." I just love how experimental Chowder was, with its super detailed environments and complete lack of 4th wall, and especially how much texture masking they did. For some reason the main thing i remember about the visual style is the constant texture masking.
There is something hilarious about a film guy coming to the realization that the Jedi in the prevails not being good guys was entirely the point. People clown on that “it’s like poetry it rhymes” but when folks seriously aren’t able to draw a parallel between “He’s to dangerous to be left alive” or the inspiration of the Jedi both being romanticized versions of corporate stooges then maybe he should have shouted it louder that his story is full of parallels between the heroes and the villains.
I was so invested in this, i felt genuine shock and betrayal when reminded that only the first 2 seasons were being covered. I've wanted to check out Clone Wars forever, but I can't really justify dedicating that kind of time to it. Multiple hours long videos from a guy on the internet about things ive never watched, however? That is absolutely something I can do 😂
I Found you due to the Izzy isn’t crazy video, but I stayed for for you. I find your videos entertaining, interesting, and informative. Your able to keep this really humble and down to earth tone that really keeps you unique. I would love to hear your thoughts on the new total drama season, I personally like it.
Yo, the holocron wasn't an updating robot system of all force sensative children, it was a rolodex of all the force sensative children they know about.
@@ajzeg01 the lore suggests that the especially force sensitive like Jedi masters can detect force sensitive children, and the prequels suggest they do a blood test on those detected children to confirm their suspicions. Then they ask the child's parents to take him for the Jedi order and keep a catalogue of the find even if the parents say no
16:30 I honestly think some of that comes from the idea that entertainment meant for kids is inherently less valuable than stuff for adults. So if someone with that mentality enjoys or is interested in a kids' show then they feel the need to justify it in some way, often going as far as saying that "it's actually not for kids" simply for aligning with their current taste regardless of the intended age demographic. It's frustrating because it shows 1) that these people don't actually respect animation as a medium as much as they say they do and 2) that they also don't respect children as human beings by claiming that any entertainment that's meant for them and is also good, is only good because it's somehow actually meant for adults/teens.
11:01 AMULET! I think the final book is coming out soon, I remember when it was like the third or so book and Will Smith was talking about making it a movie or something 💀 the story wasn’t even halfway done yet come on now
When I first saw this, I watched the episodes in random order. I gotta say, I didn't feel as lost as I should've been, but maybe that's the point. I get the feeling that most episodes or entire seasons, things just happen on screen and just gets boring sometimes. I still enjoyed this show alot, especially when I rewatched it many years later.
Secret Saturdays commercial scared the shit outta me. That komoda dragon one was the first tike I saw them and it threw me for such a loop. I was so confused. Thanks for bringing that up, dead ass forgot what it was called. What a marketing campaign.
my older brothers hated chowder so i never watched much of it and i feel like i missed out lol. flapjack was so my shit tho. either way, i'd love a retrospective on both!! i did watch clone wars because of them though, i don't remember a ton but it's weird watching this because every once in awhile i just get flashbacks to like playing my ds and ignoring everything on screen unless ahsoka was there
I wanted, so hard, to like the sequels. Visually amazing, some funny jokes, the fucking POGS that I will DIE for, but the complete lack of coherency for the overall story is just...you can really tell the writers kept changing even if you didn't know about all of that having happened
I love your videos, you should definitely make a video about Chowder and Flapjack. I'd also love to hear more about the comics you drew and other comic stuff you like 🍔
Since you enjoy amulet I feel obligated to let you know that the last book supposed to come out Feb 6, 2024! If you felt like scheduling a video around that time about it maybe?
I prefer anything NOT Disney "Star Wars". When Disney was just racist and the old cartoon musicals were just that, left alone except for the removal of certain things cause "themes and ideas" back then were "different". Gennady Borisovich Tartakovsky era of cartoons are the best. Rule of Cool all the way. I grew up with that, soooo it's just the way it was dude. That's life.
@@BlackMoonHowls …ok. Well I personally really like shows like Mando and Andor. Besides when it comes to animation they haven’t really disappointed me. The Bad Batch is personally my favorite show in current days so I don’t think it’s all the worst thing ever 🤷
51:51 Why did Wag Too gently place his bare right hand flat on the centre of Anakin Skywalker's armoured chest and why was he watching Anakin's white cotton towel covered face closely and intently with a calm look on his own face? If anyone knows the answers to my questions, please reply and let me know. Thank you very much! 😊
I honestly love the take that mace windu is boring and it’s because he is. None of the writers wanted to flesh him out and I think it’s so they didn’t have to deal with people feeling bad for his death maybe?! But ultimately all he ever will be is the action hero of Star wars
Do you know why Droids are the best slaves in Star Wars? Meat bags as life forms go, take up more resources and have to be motivated and feel good about their place of "work". They have to be fed and taken care of and are irreplaceable if they die or are killed by refusing to do work, Droids do not and are not like that. Droids, inexpensive, do not eat, unlimited droid platoons, unlimited parts, cheap to make and feel nothing. They don't have to be motivated just give them orders, for the most part they will carry them out. Keeping humanoid slaves, bad for business, too finicky and temperamental. Droid slaves as B1's fun to keep around but they do get into actual arguments, B2's (Super Battle droids) just aim and fire they don't argue. Droidekas, don't speak to argue either. Do you see my point? Also, yeah the Yoda/Dooku thing, fucking deep and did you know Yoda sought out Dooku to understand why his former apprentice chose the Dark Side. Yoda the Sith Lord. 900 years and if they were to EVER go SITH, the entire Universe will die. Someone that experienced in the Force and life obtaining the Dark side at full strength rather than obtain, learn and grow. Yoda is already so very experienced and very wise as it is. To achieve so much and then fall to the Dark Side he would be the strongest Sith to have ever live. Yoda wanted to understand that and understand the Dark Side from the POV of his former apprentice. It was the best exchange in Star Wars history. Imagine Dooku the Apprentice teaching his Master Yoda, the ways of the Dark side as in philosophy, something Yoda didn't understand so he sought it out and achieved that too. Grand Master Yoda. Edit: Crab Droid reminds me of the Xana crab robots in Code Lyoko just called Krabs, Also the resemble the ones you see in Kotor 2 at Peragus Mining Facility. lol. 2nd Edit: Speaking of VA sounding like other VA, 1:55:15. 1:57:20 Incorrect. That's Dr. Lorre. Get your eyes checked bro.
The toy "unboxing" I notice you said Republic Gunship in place of LAAT. Also "Donut" ship is almost right that's a Droid Control Ship or Lucrehulk Class.
With the way YT and Twitch treats live streams as if fucking TV spots filled with BS adverts, yeah right. Good luck dood, have a like I feel bad for you that you like all that frustration of MISSING important info and character exchanges of lore drops in D&D session cause YT or Twitch spills an advert every time something important happens. JUST catch the VOD, it's easier to deal with the adverts until fookin they stop their Corpo shyte.
@@BlackMoonHowls I absolutely agree with that, although that's not why I had to miss it. I do have a little trick that just about eliminates 90+ - 95% of ads. Pause the video when it starts, Go to like a few/couple seconds before the end, let it play out than press the replay circle icon, and than you'll see maybe 1 ad if not 0 . Unless there was some copyright issue, if I do that, I probably won't miss a thing.
@@BigSteve9713 I have heard everything under the sun for "How to prevent adverts" as well as everything else that's the same idea on all kinds of things. I have done everything under the sun myself to prevent adverts If you want to try and find another way that eventually just ends in a million adverts anyways, fine by me. I like watching fail and see why people never listen to those that know better than to try in the first place. The all mighty Corpo wins out all. The House always wins, in the end. I wish you luck young padawan.
while I love the prequels and I find the war focused stuff really interesting, I agree with your points and I find the character focused episodes really underrated.
The canon reason the droids have personalities was explained. In the movies we see them all be controlled by a central computer on Naboo, which was a massive tactical disadvantage. So the Sith decided it's better if these droids are all individually controlled. The Sith basically creating life to force them into slavery and be cannon fodder IS a Sith thing to do. Out of universe, the droids were used by the writers to vent some of their complaints to the higher ups.
I love watching you review my childhood :) (no, seriously, this is really entertaining and it's nice to see your thoughts.) I usually don't leave comments, but at 1:20:15 , you asked about a random droid in a random episode. She's a Betty droid, commonly used as a servant/maid droid by rich folks. It isn't important at all, and I don't think they ever show up again. But I vividly remember her because I think she was a key part in my baby gay awakening. Or as a child I was so starved for women role models that I took every second I could get from this old star wars show. Uh. Tmi over, This was a nice video to watch. Thank you :)
@@BHultra What can I say. Terrible taste is hard to get rid of, lol. It probably didn't help that my family had a character encyclopedia for seasons 1-3 and she was at the start.
Okay, let's start the list now because this is something major That's getting to me and I feel a need to vent it in order to try and keep going and enjoying this video. 1) Since, at the time of writing this, I'm only about an hour in, I'm not sure if you bring up the fact that there are episodes that set up the Domino Squad more, but there are- and a lot of people will have watched those episodes first, as most people watch episodes chronologically as opposed to release order. The repeated mentions of "clones just shoot droids" as an example of a bad episode kinda just comes across as needlessly mean for an episode that a lot of people liked, since it had a clone, one that later viewers would have watched from early in their career, sacrifice himself partly to fulfill orders, and mostly to protect his brothers- to protect the cloning facilities on Kamino, literally described as the closest thing to a home they have. 2) Yes, Ventress was introduced in the Clone Wars movie, which is why Ahsoka and Ventress seem to know each other. 3) On the pacifist lemurs: I'm sorry. But rigid pacifism in the way of a totalitarian takeover isn't noble. It's enabling. History is full of just and unjust war. Yes, the horrors of war will scar people forever, it will take lives that could have lived to their fullest away too soon, people all too often find themselves being crushed under the machinery of war when it comes. But pacifism is not always the answer. It was right for the United States to crush the Confederacy. It was right for the Allies to fight against and defeat Germany and Japan- as much as I dislike the worthless use of the atomic bombs, the act of fighting was still justified. Ukraine should still continue to fight to maintain its independence against Russia, and not give in to fake peace deals that are just Russia attempting to force Ukraine to surrender. If the point of the episode, and of your commentary, was more that the Jedi becoming tangled up in the war brought it to their doorstep, then sure, that is a good point. But rigid pacifism in the fave of an enemy that wants you dead, is just what the lemur chief was doing: being more willing to die for his convictions than fight for the betterment of anyone. As of the time of writing this, about an hour in, got no other comments. Will update this with more if I feel a need to, just felt like I had to vent my frustrations at that little bit before I could enjoy the rest of this video. Also, yes, absolutely, we need more Flapjack and Chowder retrospectives. We can never have enough we always need more giVE US MORE Edit: 4) The entire Ryloth arc is amazing, and since you gave zero reasons why I should find Liberty boring and dumb, I'm going to give zero reasons why your bland, contrarian hate of the existence of action in an action series is bad.
Okay I am not all the way through, but you’re talking about the “noods,” and I honestly have to say that general aesthetic probably was my favorite for Cartoon Network. It gave the parts between the shows character. I could have watched a show about those “noods” figures…although nowadays I would cringe at the name, like I am rn. But that still would have been a fun little thing. That said, I think I would not talk much about it BECAUSE…yeah the shows from that time didn’t really stick out for me that much I suppose. But really most of what I think about from Cartoon Network in general is Adventure Time, so…yeah. Hey, do you remember when they pulled out those nights of looking back on old shows? I do not remember the name of it, but there was a certain character from Space Ghost or something from around that era I think hosting the segment.
I loved this show so much. I have binged watched the entire show more than once. 😅 But yeah, the Padme episodes are literally my favorite ones, and it makes me mad that everyone I knew growing up that also watched the show seemed to be bored by them... Like PADME IS SO AWESOME, WHAT THE HELL GUYS?!?!
as someone who grew up on batman the brave and the bold and later rewatched it in my manchild years i can confidently say it was pretty good! the third season kinda took a dive quality wise but the episode where batman and superman beat the snot out of each other was good!....that's basiclly the only season 3 episode i ever watched and liked but it is what it is.
As someone who likes the fantasy and interpersonal conflict of StarWars more. I think you miss the mark with the Geonosis episodes. Ultimately StarWars use to be a critique of post modern imperialism. The 2nd invasion of Geonosis shows the brutality of boots on the ground not just the combat but surviving the campaign.
I have a judging system that pertains to the Lego games... If the game that is equivalent to the Lego game that you are playing is worse than that said Lego game, that means the game is shit
Be concerned about epilepsy warnings, THOSE are worse. It's not my fault people don't like the human body, you are conditioned to believe clothes make the person when the body makes the person physically but the mind is what makes the person. The Sith(government and the like) is what controls your thoughts and belief for clothing. You are born naked and you go back to the Earth without your clothes, they get eaten up, rot and decay as the body does. Are you afraid of the human body? OR is this a spoiler thing, in that case are you 12? Spoilers are for cars and children worry about them. Make life easier for yourself and stop giving a shit. The sooner you do and embrace the nothingness that is life, you will be better for it and feel better. Why are people so afraid of sex and the body? Freaks.
@@booshbear 4 reasons why that's total BS. 1) You thought I didn't know you were joking, I picked up on that immediately why do you think I am doubling down right now? This is just the Top Hat and Monocle I am putting on you, Lord or Lady Obvious. 2) "X" gender I was pointing out people are pussies and can't take spoiler shit or the human body in some cases. What losers. 3) BTW you did just assume my gender, I'm a guy. Just like women we can also not take too kindly to the blatant ignorance. All is fair in Love and War. 4) I came back to check if there were any replies to my comments because I have notifications for replies off because of Zoomer spazz cases, Trolls and "Last Laugh" people, and the occasional Boomer that takes everything serious so, I am merely humoring you don't get a wild hair up your arse like you served me up a dish. MF. You think I'm stupid and can't tell a joke from serious, are you denser than Katchin? I took Debate and Philosophy in High School, MF I dare you to come at me. I only have YEARS experience once getting out of HS all them years ago. Pwng noobs and folks like you. Go back to elementary and then come talk to me so you don't get schooled next time around. I'd ask if you want water for that but I'm afraid you'd think I'd be joking, should you be on fire I would not even piss on the likes of you. I've got nieces and nephews I can argue with all the time, so I have practice playing "Dozens". If I have to explain that to you, you weren't doing you childhood right because you didn't have one or don't have one right now. Can't blame you hard to be a kid in a literal War Zone or even during a world-wide Plague/Pandemic in modern society.
*I am not sexually attracted to the hour- glass figure robot, I am not sexually attracted to the hour- glass figure robot* (P.s. when my mom found out starwars was on Adult swim, I wasn't allowed to watch it on CN anymore.)
Can we get an update? It's been over a year. Did you give in?
@@Rabbit-the-One I forgot please don't send me a time stamp
I would love a Chowder and Flapjack retrospect, and more Total Drama Content
Speaking of Chowder. "I am the Chowder Man." X Slayers 4 Lyfe!
Flapjack would be really funny, I don't remember chowder that much
Everyone agrees.
But dress them up as Star Wars characters and make sketch comedy for late night TV in 2006
Two things
1.) You’re so real for saying you can lift up animation as a media without putting down cartoons. As a fellow fan of Big City Greens, sometimes silly cartoons can exists and I’m glad they do. They can both exist and you can get different enjoyment from both
2.) A Flapjack and/or Chowder retrospective would be really cool especially with the similarities between the two I’ve noticed
Keep up the great work my dude 👍👍
Regarding #1, it's so weird how hypocritical some animation fans are. Like, first of all, people forget that the only reason why we get these big, dramatic, mature animated movies and shows is because the goofy shit came first. Without silly, gag filled cartoons like in the rubber hose era or the Merry Melodies-type era, animation probably wouldn't have lasted. Old Disney, Looney Tunes, and Hanna-Barbara shorts/shows paved the road that these guys spit on.
People are so worried about how people judge their taste in media, and whether or not they're seen as being childish for liking cartoons, that they'll endorse some of the most immature content simply because it's R rated and makes them feel like an adult. It drives me nuts especially since I like animated stuff for all age ranges. I tend to prefer kid-oriented stuff because sex and gore doesn't really appeal to me (and censor limitations often result in better/more clever jokes IMO) but I still like plenty of mature-audience cartoons (Bojack Horseman, Invincible, and parts of South Park are the first ones that come to mind. I'm also slowly working through Bob's Burgers and have really been enjoying it.)
On one hand, I get it. When I tell people that the majority of my favorite movies and shows are stuff that's for kids, I get a weird look. My friends/family don't take me seriously. And I don't have anyone willing to talk about animation aside from "so about those Disney remakes" type conversations. It sucks that adults view kid-appropriate media in such a bad light, because there are a ton of gems. A good story is a good story, no matter who it's for. But other fans in this community just get so defensive when no one else gets this weird about what movies or shows they like (or snobbish.) It's just frustrating. Thanks for reading my lil rant.
I absolutely want a Flapjack and Chowder retrospective, but they both have to be the same video because of how intertwined those shows are to me. I remember them premiering back to back and watching them both. They're like two halfs of a whole, you can't separate them, or you'll be missing part of the story.
Thank you for making it easy to find my section lol
Will check this out later, since I binged clone wars back in 2020
The universe is expanding.
an hour and 20 in, genuinely always such a pleasure to watch you talk about things i do not know or otherwise care about. I recently figured out that my parents stopped paying for cable in 2008, so these hit a really interesting niche of content i never watched but heard about and really core memories from right before i became a pbskids solo. i would love to see a chowder video :)
Boba is a Clone of Jango. So I assumed that his urge to recreate Jangos set up had to do with them having the same brain.
1:10:00 As a Season 1 Ahsoka enjoyer, I thought I would weigh in here. You are correct fans see this as an important Ahsoka episode, however this is not the episode that stopped the hate. Ahsoka hate continued for years [or seasons] beyond this episode, fans have just noted this was the major first sign of her initial character arc beginning, which is generally seen as being felt most in 4 episodes, another being the Tera Sinube episode for example. I believe there is a video titled similar to "How Filoni fixed Ahsoka in 4 episodes" which highlights this, and more interestingly the fandom belief that there was something wrong with Ahsoka, that Filoni had to "fix". Personally, whilst Ahsoka totally improves from the movie, through season 1, and beyond, I do believe the full hatred of her is more the fault of sexism than her writing, especially as though her charisma with Anakin in season 1 is lacking at times, she is also usually split from Anakin
Edit: I am now 30 minutes later into the video, Geonosis arc episode 2. YES. Luminara is the worst. She doesn't make any main appearances after this, though as a character she remains relevant, due to stuff said about her, and how she treated Bariss. She is the most extreme example of "Jedi should hold no attachments". Anakin is in clear opposition this, being the most attached Jedi, and his said attachments ultimately lead to his downfall, though it is the order forcing him to hide them and manipulating him that truly seals his fate. The prequels ain't great, but the clone wars links into pre-existing prequel content in ways that make it feel planned out and better set up, most clearly being Anakin's fall
not disagreeing with you there are definitely sexist people that don't like Ashoka but writing off every critic of the character as one is sad behavior.
@@AnAverageGoblin Totally. Maybe I wasn't specific enough, but I meant that I blame the hatred on sexism, not the criticism of her character. Whilst the Clone Wars might be my favourite show ever, it's first 2 seasons are full of major issues, one of the most clear being the depth of its characters
@@robozxd2857 you say that, but it still sounds like you think people that don't like her are sexist. I'm not even sure I understand what you mean? and just in case you do have some weird deep seated issue you don't realize you have I won't try to say I get it.
to make things clear I've never liked Ahsoka, wouldn't go as far as saying I hate her but that doesn't mean I'm sexist or some dumb shit like that. I just think (especially as time went on) she overstayed her welcome and became something close to a mary-sue or OC from the guy that created her.
thats not to say she didn't grow and improve. its just that those moments where she was well written and worked are overshadowed by the Mary-Sue-esque "this is my super cool padawan/jedi oc" end of her appearances that I think ruined her character.
@@AnAverageGoblin Ok, but like, if you'd rather work off how I sound than what I'm saying, there may be little point in trying to defend myself. Just as an idea, I'm going to throw in some of my own Ahsoka criticisms. Whilst I wouldn't call her a mary-sue, I have to agree that she has overstayed her welcome, at least in the sense that she's currently being overused. This constant usage as of late has led to some great stuff, such as the last 4 episodes of the Clone Wars, but also led to her being revived in season 4 of Rebels, which ruined her original death scene, made Rebels just make less sense overall, and then begged the question, "So, if Ahsoka is around for the whole original trilogy, why is she doing absolutely nothing?". Her usage in Tales of the Jedi worsened its consistency of quality, as whilst the Dooku content was well written and interesting, Ahsoka's half was mostly retreading old ground, or completely unnecessary. She also made appearances in the Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett, where she added very little besides something fans to get excited over. Personally, it seems Filoni is too attached to her and is refusing to let the character lose relevance [The clearest example being him confirming that even though her voice is heard in TROS as part of the force, she is still alive], and he seems to be doing a similar thing to Rex.
As a side point, my initial comment was based on how audiences treat certain characters. Audiences give some characters the benefit of time to develop before casting judgment on them, whereas they will assign other characters with being poor before they are given the chance to develop. I think this audience disparity is seen with Ahsoka, specifically that Filoni had to "fix" her, rather than presuming the character arc that began in season 1 was planned the whole time. This issue of audience judgment is often related to minority characters as a whole, who are often called out for not having any flaws, which is blamed on representation, but then in cases when those characters have flaws to be addressed as a part of a story, that kind of audience refuses to acknowledge that the flaws may be intentional and makes accusations of poor writing.
Unless like, anything said next is like, some kinda really wild take I have to acknowledge for my sanity, I'm gonna stop replying, as I don't think I can prove any strength of character in a comments section to someone who has made up their mind
@@robozxd2857 I don't think I said anything about how I thought she had no strengths, but maybe it sounded like I did? so sorry if that was the case. not trying to flame you either.
I do want a chowder retrospective, mainly because i can imagine you explaining what real life food every character is named after.
It would take up like 15 minutes of the video but i imagine it wouldnt be all crammed together in one block, you'd probably just stop in the middle of a sentence and have a quick aside every time a new character is introduced. Thats just the vibe i get.
"So they go to see Gazpacho - Gazpacho is like this chilled tomato soup thats considered really fancy for some reason but like, its just cold tomato soup - who's this kind of wooly mammoth guy who runs a wholesaler grocery stand and has some concerning dialogue about his relationship with his mother."
I just love how experimental Chowder was, with its super detailed environments and complete lack of 4th wall, and especially how much texture masking they did. For some reason the main thing i remember about the visual style is the constant texture masking.
Akira Kurosawa's film The Hidden Fortress was a huge inspo for the original starwars, so that dedication to his death kinda makes some sense
Fun fact: The detective that you suspected for looking suspicious is meant to be a reference to Peter Lorre
I think the best order is chonrological, the show is a anthology but having it actually connect makes it better for me anyway
Fun fact: Jaybo (1:06:04) is voiced by David Kaufman, the same voice actor who is best known for voicing Danny Phantom.
Don't tease me with Flapjack and Chowder. Of course I want videos on them!
There is something hilarious about a film guy coming to the realization that the Jedi in the prevails not being good guys was entirely the point. People clown on that “it’s like poetry it rhymes” but when folks seriously aren’t able to draw a parallel between “He’s to dangerous to be left alive” or the inspiration of the Jedi both being romanticized versions of corporate stooges then maybe he should have shouted it louder that his story is full of parallels between the heroes and the villains.
I was so invested in this, i felt genuine shock and betrayal when reminded that only the first 2 seasons were being covered. I've wanted to check out Clone Wars forever, but I can't really justify dedicating that kind of time to it.
Multiple hours long videos from a guy on the internet about things ive never watched, however? That is absolutely something I can do 😂
"It's a kid's show people aren't going to die"
Oh you sweet summer child
I Found you due to the Izzy isn’t crazy video, but I stayed for for you. I find your videos entertaining, interesting, and informative. Your able to keep this really humble and down to earth tone that really keeps you unique. I would love to hear your thoughts on the new total drama season, I personally like it.
Yo, the holocron wasn't an updating robot system of all force sensative children, it was a rolodex of all the force sensative children they know about.
How do they find out?
@@ajzeg01 the lore suggests that the especially force sensitive like Jedi masters can detect force sensitive children, and the prequels suggest they do a blood test on those detected children to confirm their suspicions. Then they ask the child's parents to take him for the Jedi order and keep a catalogue of the find even if the parents say no
One day, Star Wars will have to answer the Droid Question... but probably not any time soon. What they did to L337 was highly disappointing.
16:30 I honestly think some of that comes from the idea that entertainment meant for kids is inherently less valuable than stuff for adults. So if someone with that mentality enjoys or is interested in a kids' show then they feel the need to justify it in some way, often going as far as saying that "it's actually not for kids" simply for aligning with their current taste regardless of the intended age demographic. It's frustrating because it shows 1) that these people don't actually respect animation as a medium as much as they say they do and 2) that they also don't respect children as human beings by claiming that any entertainment that's meant for them and is also good, is only good because it's somehow actually meant for adults/teens.
11:01 AMULET! I think the final book is coming out soon, I remember when it was like the third or so book and Will Smith was talking about making it a movie or something 💀 the story wasn’t even halfway done yet come on now
You should definitely do a flap jack retrospective
AND connect Adventure Time, Candy Kingdom and Candy Island. The Candy Wars.
Yes that would be worth 2-3 hours worth it
You should definitely do a flap jack retrospective. The mentioning of Amulet being an amazing series makes me happy..
1:26:10 you awoke a childhood memory in me where I had that same confusion
The Ventress toy button lights up her lightsaber I think I could’ve sworn I saw the lightsaber light up red at one angle
Yea it does, I saw it glow. I don't think Ultra noticed tho
This was so good, I'm watching it twice. Also YES, DO A FLAPJACK AND CHOWDER RETROSPECTIVE AEKWKSBSKANDSK
I also thought Jango had darts that would shrivel you up and turn you green
great video, these long retrospectives are always really good
12:00 a flapjack retrospective would slap to an enormous degree
I find it hilarious, that since this is you watching, then recording, you adjust you hair after literally every cut lol
The 2008 Chewbacca AT-ST McDonald's toy is the secret to solving the energy crisis
When I first saw this, I watched the episodes in random order. I gotta say, I didn't feel as lost as I should've been, but maybe that's the point. I get the feeling that most episodes or entire seasons, things just happen on screen and just gets boring sometimes. I still enjoyed this show alot, especially when I rewatched it many years later.
it's a shame Dooku never really stops being an evil guy.
This is the only show I know to only get better as it goes
I really loved ahsoka as a kid. And she was the main reason I watched. So when she (spoiler) left I didn't really feel like watching the show
There is an official timeline list for TCW released by Disney
I always come back to this vid and wish u kept going towards the older seasons, hoping that’s the may video
Weapons factory is one of my favorite levels.
Secret Saturdays commercial scared the shit outta me. That komoda dragon one was the first tike I saw them and it threw me for such a loop. I was so confused. Thanks for bringing that up, dead ass forgot what it was called. What a marketing campaign.
i will literally watch any video you choose to put out your retrospectives and your takes are so good!! great videos tysm for uploading
1:16:46 new 5 hour tdi conspiracy dropping this summer ? ❤
There is even more to the Darth Jarjar theory
As a huge Star Wars fan this is fucking great. Like actually maybe please do more of the series
my older brothers hated chowder so i never watched much of it and i feel like i missed out lol. flapjack was so my shit tho. either way, i'd love a retrospective on both!! i did watch clone wars because of them though, i don't remember a ton but it's weird watching this because every once in awhile i just get flashbacks to like playing my ds and ignoring everything on screen unless ahsoka was there
The mentioning of Amulet being an amazing series makes me happy.
I wanted, so hard, to like the sequels. Visually amazing, some funny jokes, the fucking POGS that I will DIE for, but the complete lack of coherency for the overall story is just...you can really tell the writers kept changing even if you didn't know about all of that having happened
I love your videos, you should definitely make a video about Chowder and Flapjack. I'd also love to hear more about the comics you drew and other comic stuff you like 🍔
Its a Seven Samurai episode that's why its dedicated to him
Since you enjoy amulet I feel obligated to let you know that the last book supposed to come out Feb 6, 2024! If you felt like scheduling a video around that time about it maybe?
As someone who adores the clones…Respect Rookies fr
And Bad Batch boring? 😔 (tbf I do prefer season 1)
I prefer anything NOT Disney "Star Wars". When Disney was just racist and the old cartoon musicals were just that, left alone except for the removal of certain things cause "themes and ideas" back then were "different". Gennady Borisovich Tartakovsky era of cartoons are the best. Rule of Cool all the way. I grew up with that, soooo it's just the way it was dude. That's life.
@@BlackMoonHowls …ok. Well I personally really like shows like Mando and Andor. Besides when it comes to animation they haven’t really disappointed me. The Bad Batch is personally my favorite show in current days so I don’t think it’s all the worst thing ever 🤷
@@BlackMoonHowls Samurai Jack season 4 was fun but also underwhelming. I'll be fair and say that Primal fully made up for it
yoooo but the librarian is a fuckin g tho lmaooo in the Mravel Darth Vader comics she's got a gigantic lightsaber gun 😂
it's not just a atom bomb it's an atom bomb that doesn't affect droids.
51:51 Why did Wag Too gently place his bare right hand flat on the centre of Anakin Skywalker's armoured chest and why was he watching Anakin's white cotton towel covered face closely and intently with a calm look on his own face? If anyone knows the answers to my questions, please reply and let me know. Thank you very much! 😊
Loved this video 66% (no Bad Batch slander aloud) but finding all the McDonald's toys is dedication
I honestly love the take that mace windu is boring and it’s because he is. None of the writers wanted to flesh him out and I think it’s so they didn’t have to deal with people feeling bad for his death maybe?! But ultimately all he ever will be is the action hero of Star wars
I would love flapjack and chowder retrospective those were some of my favorite as a kid and still to this day.
Do you know why Droids are the best slaves in Star Wars? Meat bags as life forms go, take up more resources and have to be motivated and feel good about their place of "work". They have to be fed and taken care of and are irreplaceable if they die or are killed by refusing to do work, Droids do not and are not like that. Droids, inexpensive, do not eat, unlimited droid platoons, unlimited parts, cheap to make and feel nothing. They don't have to be motivated just give them orders, for the most part they will carry them out. Keeping humanoid slaves, bad for business, too finicky and temperamental. Droid slaves as B1's fun to keep around but they do get into actual arguments, B2's (Super Battle droids) just aim and fire they don't argue. Droidekas, don't speak to argue either. Do you see my point? Also, yeah the Yoda/Dooku thing, fucking deep and did you know Yoda sought out Dooku to understand why his former apprentice chose the Dark Side. Yoda the Sith Lord. 900 years and if they were to EVER go SITH, the entire Universe will die. Someone that experienced in the Force and life obtaining the Dark side at full strength rather than obtain, learn and grow. Yoda is already so very experienced and very wise as it is. To achieve so much and then fall to the Dark Side he would be the strongest Sith to have ever live. Yoda wanted to understand that and understand the Dark Side from the POV of his former apprentice. It was the best exchange in Star Wars history. Imagine Dooku the Apprentice teaching his Master Yoda, the ways of the Dark side as in philosophy, something Yoda didn't understand so he sought it out and achieved that too. Grand Master Yoda.
Edit: Crab Droid reminds me of the Xana crab robots in Code Lyoko just called Krabs, Also the resemble the ones you see in Kotor 2 at Peragus Mining Facility. lol.
2nd Edit: Speaking of VA sounding like other VA, 1:55:15.
1:57:20 Incorrect. That's Dr. Lorre. Get your eyes checked bro.
The toy "unboxing" I notice you said Republic Gunship in place of LAAT. Also "Donut" ship is almost right that's a Droid Control Ship or Lucrehulk Class.
it is so fucking wrong that Star Wars has made people okay with the concept of slavery based solely on your comment.
12:07 i would LOVE chowder retrospective
I had the Darth Vader McDonald’s bobblehead. The wings would never stay on.
Andrew, please, for the love of GOD make a Flapjack, and Chowder retrospective/analysis.
I would watch the hell out of a chowder and or flapjack retrospective.
Shame I couldn't watch this live, but I'll be watching tomorrow.
With the way YT and Twitch treats live streams as if fucking TV spots filled with BS adverts, yeah right. Good luck dood, have a like I feel bad for you that you like all that frustration of MISSING important info and character exchanges of lore drops in D&D session cause YT or Twitch spills an advert every time something important happens. JUST catch the VOD, it's easier to deal with the adverts until fookin they stop their Corpo shyte.
@@BlackMoonHowls I absolutely agree with that, although that's not why I had to miss it. I do have a little trick that just about eliminates 90+ - 95% of ads. Pause the video when it starts, Go to like a few/couple seconds before the end, let it play out than press the replay circle icon, and than you'll see maybe 1 ad if not 0 . Unless there was some copyright issue, if I do that, I probably won't miss a thing.
@@BigSteve9713 I have heard everything under the sun for "How to prevent adverts" as well as everything else that's the same idea on all kinds of things. I have done everything under the sun myself to prevent adverts If you want to try and find another way that eventually just ends in a million adverts anyways, fine by me. I like watching fail and see why people never listen to those that know better than to try in the first place. The all mighty Corpo wins out all. The House always wins, in the end. I wish you luck young padawan.
Chowder retrospective would be so cool
while I love the prequels and I find the war focused stuff really interesting, I agree with your points and I find the character focused episodes really underrated.
gonna watch every bhultra video and do a bhultra retrospective
CHOWDER AND FLAPJACK RESTROSPECTIVE
The canon reason the droids have personalities was explained. In the movies we see them all be controlled by a central computer on Naboo, which was a massive tactical disadvantage. So the Sith decided it's better if these droids are all individually controlled. The Sith basically creating life to force them into slavery and be cannon fodder IS a Sith thing to do. Out of universe, the droids were used by the writers to vent some of their complaints to the higher ups.
I love watching you review my childhood :) (no, seriously, this is really entertaining and it's nice to see your thoughts.) I usually don't leave comments, but at 1:20:15 , you asked about a random droid in a random episode. She's a Betty droid, commonly used as a servant/maid droid by rich folks. It isn't important at all, and I don't think they ever show up again. But I vividly remember her because I think she was a key part in my baby gay awakening. Or as a child I was so starved for women role models that I took every second I could get from this old star wars show.
Uh. Tmi over, This was a nice video to watch. Thank you :)
Also this show made me oddly obsessed about fictional droid rights. So ya know, you aren't alone in being concerned about battle droids.
Very funny that out of all the new characters in Clone Wars you picked the 50’s diner boy, lmao
@@BHultra What can I say. Terrible taste is hard to get rid of, lol. It probably didn't help that my family had a character encyclopedia for seasons 1-3 and she was at the start.
Dude wants to watch Star WARS: the clone WARS and doesn't like war. A tragedy more tragic than Darth Plagueis's
2:42:08 R2D2 never dies
Amulet is absolutely awesome I want the 8th book
I would absolutely watch the Chowder retrospective.
btw i would LOVE a Chowder or Flapjack retrospective!
My favorite UA-camr. Never misses.
There was a Kinder Surprise toy line that was a complete ripoff of the McDonald’s Clone Wars bobbleheads.
Okay, let's start the list now because this is something major That's getting to me and I feel a need to vent it in order to try and keep going and enjoying this video.
1) Since, at the time of writing this, I'm only about an hour in, I'm not sure if you bring up the fact that there are episodes that set up the Domino Squad more, but there are- and a lot of people will have watched those episodes first, as most people watch episodes chronologically as opposed to release order. The repeated mentions of "clones just shoot droids" as an example of a bad episode kinda just comes across as needlessly mean for an episode that a lot of people liked, since it had a clone, one that later viewers would have watched from early in their career, sacrifice himself partly to fulfill orders, and mostly to protect his brothers- to protect the cloning facilities on Kamino, literally described as the closest thing to a home they have.
2) Yes, Ventress was introduced in the Clone Wars movie, which is why Ahsoka and Ventress seem to know each other.
3) On the pacifist lemurs: I'm sorry. But rigid pacifism in the way of a totalitarian takeover isn't noble. It's enabling. History is full of just and unjust war. Yes, the horrors of war will scar people forever, it will take lives that could have lived to their fullest away too soon, people all too often find themselves being crushed under the machinery of war when it comes. But pacifism is not always the answer. It was right for the United States to crush the Confederacy. It was right for the Allies to fight against and defeat Germany and Japan- as much as I dislike the worthless use of the atomic bombs, the act of fighting was still justified. Ukraine should still continue to fight to maintain its independence against Russia, and not give in to fake peace deals that are just Russia attempting to force Ukraine to surrender. If the point of the episode, and of your commentary, was more that the Jedi becoming tangled up in the war brought it to their doorstep, then sure, that is a good point. But rigid pacifism in the fave of an enemy that wants you dead, is just what the lemur chief was doing: being more willing to die for his convictions than fight for the betterment of anyone.
As of the time of writing this, about an hour in, got no other comments. Will update this with more if I feel a need to, just felt like I had to vent my frustrations at that little bit before I could enjoy the rest of this video.
Also, yes, absolutely, we need more Flapjack and Chowder retrospectives. We can never have enough we always need more giVE US MORE
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4) The entire Ryloth arc is amazing, and since you gave zero reasons why I should find Liberty boring and dumb, I'm going to give zero reasons why your bland, contrarian hate of the existence of action in an action series is bad.
Okay I am not all the way through, but you’re talking about the “noods,” and I honestly have to say that general aesthetic probably was my favorite for Cartoon Network. It gave the parts between the shows character. I could have watched a show about those “noods” figures…although nowadays I would cringe at the name, like I am rn. But that still would have been a fun little thing.
That said, I think I would not talk much about it BECAUSE…yeah the shows from that time didn’t really stick out for me that much I suppose. But really most of what I think about from Cartoon Network in general is Adventure Time, so…yeah.
Hey, do you remember when they pulled out those nights of looking back on old shows? I do not remember the name of it, but there was a certain character from Space Ghost or something from around that era I think hosting the segment.
That’s not the Republic logo, it’s the Jedi logo
2:10:01 the way I cackled-
1:16:45 I love subtle hints
Ventress’ ship is a Vulture Droid
This was so fucking good thanks for making this
in the lego version... it is confirmed inside...
I loved this show so much. I have binged watched the entire show more than once. 😅 But yeah, the Padme episodes are literally my favorite ones, and it makes me mad that everyone I knew growing up that also watched the show seemed to be bored by them... Like PADME IS SO AWESOME, WHAT THE HELL GUYS?!?!
as someone who grew up on batman the brave and the bold and later rewatched it in my manchild years i can confidently say it was pretty good! the third season kinda took a dive quality wise but the episode where batman and superman beat the snot out of each other was good!....that's basiclly the only season 3 episode i ever watched and liked but it is what it is.
I would love a Cowboy Bebop video!!
You should go over the noods era andrew
Can you do a video on third-party controllers?
12:08 YES. YES SOME OF US WOULD BE.
Succession reference Succession reference!
CHOWDERRR
As someone who likes the fantasy and interpersonal conflict of StarWars more. I think you miss the mark with the Geonosis episodes. Ultimately StarWars use to be a critique of post modern imperialism. The 2nd invasion of Geonosis shows the brutality of boots on the ground not just the combat but surviving the campaign.
I'm sorry, is his name General Not-Good?
Can you just talk about puppets for a while?
padme's is the senate logo
the mandalorian logo is on boba fett's armor
I have a judging system that pertains to the Lego games... If the game that is equivalent to the Lego game that you are playing is worse than that said Lego game, that means the game is shit
trigger warning for Lindsay's elimination please 💔
Be concerned about epilepsy warnings, THOSE are worse. It's not my fault people don't like the human body, you are conditioned to believe clothes make the person when the body makes the person physically but the mind is what makes the person. The Sith(government and the like) is what controls your thoughts and belief for clothing. You are born naked and you go back to the Earth without your clothes, they get eaten up, rot and decay as the body does. Are you afraid of the human body? OR is this a spoiler thing, in that case are you 12? Spoilers are for cars and children worry about them. Make life easier for yourself and stop giving a shit. The sooner you do and embrace the nothingness that is life, you will be better for it and feel better. Why are people so afraid of sex and the body? Freaks.
@@BlackMoonHowls girl i was literally making a joke cause Lindsay was robbed
@@booshbear 4 reasons why that's total BS.
1) You thought I didn't know you were joking, I picked up on that immediately why do you think I am doubling down right now? This is just the Top Hat and Monocle I am putting on you, Lord or Lady Obvious.
2) "X" gender I was pointing out people are pussies and can't take spoiler shit or the human body in some cases. What losers.
3) BTW you did just assume my gender, I'm a guy. Just like women we can also not take too kindly to the blatant ignorance. All is fair in Love and War.
4) I came back to check if there were any replies to my comments because I have notifications for replies off because of Zoomer spazz cases, Trolls and "Last Laugh" people, and the occasional Boomer that takes everything serious so, I am merely humoring you don't get a wild hair up your arse like you served me up a dish. MF. You think I'm stupid and can't tell a joke from serious, are you denser than Katchin? I took Debate and Philosophy in High School, MF I dare you to come at me. I only have YEARS experience once getting out of HS all them years ago. Pwng noobs and folks like you. Go back to elementary and then come talk to me so you don't get schooled next time around. I'd ask if you want water for that but I'm afraid you'd think I'd be joking, should you be on fire I would not even piss on the likes of you. I've got nieces and nephews I can argue with all the time, so I have practice playing "Dozens". If I have to explain that to you, you weren't doing you childhood right because you didn't have one or don't have one right now. Can't blame you hard to be a kid in a literal War Zone or even during a world-wide Plague/Pandemic in modern society.
I'll also add an additional warning for Harold.
@@BlackMoonHowls MAN WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
21:57
BH stands for Bery Handsome, no wait...