The reason why those emulators didn't support 4:3 is because they were actually in 4:3. The Wii only renders a 4:3 framebuffer, which is stretched out to 16:9. Whenever you're running a game in widescreen, it is anamorphic. With the exception of games on the Xbox that actually run at 720p, that's how all of the 6th and 5th gen consoles did it. I know the Wii isn't 6th gen, but it is still relevant because it's just a super GameCube.
@@FrameRater If I am not mistaken, this issue is mostly fixed when you do things in the vWii on the WiiU, but the aspect ratio feature might also just be with official releases.
@@Tiktaalik the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4/Pro, Xbox One/S/X, WiiU and Switch all put out a native widescreen image. I only mentioned the original Xbox because it actually had the ability to put out actual widescreen. You usually got Anamorphic widescreen, but in the case of certain games, like Amped 2, the game can natively run at a full 1280x720.
You can run emulators at what ever settings you want. It's an emulator. Just change the settings. Also. The emulators on the Wii are almost all ports of other emulators. So they work on any system. It just depends what controllers you want to use.
A very good, and cheap alternative to old consoles with flashcarts. Get yourself a Mayflash Controller adapter and you've practically got the real deal.
@@NATESUCKSATGAMING lmfao bud 240p and 480i are 15Khz signals -- Modern displays output *only* 30 khz signals, meaning you cannot natively run emulators at 240p or 480i unless the hardware supports being played on a CRT (and not a PC CRT, those are typically 30 khz as well) -- and even then, the emulator does need to know that this is the output resolution
@@jonathanlaurent3059 - No....no it's not. I installed both, and while I use Retroarch it's only for Capcom system 1 and 2 - and the final burn alpha emulator. Retroarch is cool...but you have to go thru the ENTIRE SD card, for EVERY game, EVERY time. It's not nearly as convenient as Wii Mednafen is. Not even close bro, sorry.
14:46 There was a missed opportunity here. "With the exception of Grand Dad. So I suppose compatibility while great, isn't 100%." Should've been "With the exception of Grand Dad. So I suppose compatibility while great, isn't grand."
The Wii still makes the best little emulator box you can get. Having a single system that can output an accurate 240p signal for CRTs and the 480p for modern TVs is awesome. Nintendont could somewhat be considered an emulator though, it'd be worth looking at in the future. It runs Gamecube games in Wii mode. Beyond letting one play Gamecube on non-BC Wiis and WiiUs, it also lets you use Wiimote+Nunchuck or the Classic controller for Gamecube games, lets you quit to the Wii menu without power cycling, and use virtual memory cards. Mario Kart Arcade GP and F-Zero AX work in it as well, but MK Arcade GP 2 doesn't yet.
That's weird, because I located a MK GP2 ISO and played it with nintendon't and I don't notice any issues, it even saves to the Mario Card properly. I haven't even found a MK GP1 ISO yet, just sometimes a MAME version.
@@ggg235 Most 1080 screens handle 480i/p signals just fine over component video as long as you have decent quality cables. I have a similar setup, and use my modern TV for Wii, GameCube, and N64 games at 480p, while I use the CRT to run 8/16 bit emulators at true 240p. If you have to use only 1 TV, most 240p emulators also support a 480p line doubled mode that modern TVs handle much better than real consoles' signals. All games will look good on either TV if set up properly, so pick whichever you'd rather play on.
@@piratebear3126 Idk i ended up connecting a standard RGB cable to my CRT TV since it's all i have atm and it looks amazing there. I'm looking to buy a component original cable to try it on the flat screen as well. I had tried this with my PS2 and the PS2 looked god awful with component cable on the flat screen. That's why I was asking on your opinion :P
Really cool to see footage of my GBA Doom II PC Conversion romhack from a UA-camr, I remember like 8 years ago running the original ROM on VBA and it lagging like hell.
Guys like you help keep the homebrew scene and it's derivatives turning. Even small works continue to inspire attract and bring joy to people in droves
I still can't believe that G4TV's Attack of the Show actually showcased Wii emulation on freaking LIVE Television! I'm sure the crew got hit with a C&D from Nintendo and decided not to ever air it again.
@@user-bp5py6bh3g Well actually what i meant to say was that they actually told people on live tv how to hack the Wii from needing a copy of Zelda Twilight Princess (Wii version) and then add the files to sd card, and showing the installation of The Homebrew Channel, etc...
2:47 "I don't know anything about this hardware besides brand name" It really shows... You were trying to load PC-98 games on a PC-88 emulator, of course it's not going to work...
@@ewjfpoefjwoiefj That is one plus of small channels, still this is one of the few times I'll actually say that he does indeed deserve more subs/likes/views because of how much effort he puts in
Retroarch on a WII on a CRT is mind blowing. I have well over 5000 roms working perfectly in native resolution. Mame2003 cores are out there and FBA plays a couple thousand arcade games also. Plus the version of retroarch you are using 1.7.7 doesnt do switchres properly, use 1.7.6.
I threw together WiiSXR over a few months based on what I could find. I generally reworked the code to optimize WiiSX. I didn't think I did too much, but apparently it worked better than I thought. I didn't aim to improve compatibility at all over WiiSX, just speed improvements.
Thanks for sharing! I still use the Wii occasionally so this will be a good resource. Also, I wasn't expecting the Oasis parody in the middle, but then again, I didn't expect anyone to name their game system "Wonderswan," either...
As someone who plays a hacked Wii nearly everyday, I can confirm Nintendont is fantastic for GameCube games and USB Loader GX for Wii games. It doesn’t emulate them of course, it just plays them natively.
Yeah I can relate. Spent about a year pimping my Wii out - painstakingly going through every emulator/rom to make sure they played...and of course cramming as much stuff as possible. Still love it - still play it.
The weird noises and visuals on the ZX Spectrum emulator was the game itself loading. That's how ZX Spectrum games look and sound while they're loading, because ZX Spectrum games were mostly distributed on tape. Looks like the emulator doesn't support the "Fast Load" option that's on most other Spectrum emulators.
37:40 That's supposed to happen!! The screeching audio/flashing bars are the game being loaded into the Spectrum's RAM in cassette format. As foreign as it sounds to American home computer users, games on cassette were much more common than cartridges outside North America (mostly in Europe, which is where the Spectrum's primary market was anyway)
I had stunt race FX as a kid, it was surprisingly good. I thought it was great how you could drive underwater in that glass tunnel in one of the stages.
Hmm, here's a tip if you ever do one of these kinds of videos again: If you ever run across another NEC PC98 emulator, I believe you should be testing Touhou in it. People that emulate that system are generally in it for one of two things: early Visual Novels sort of games or to see the original Touhou games. It'd be more useful to see those running, then, as those would be the games people would most likely boot in it.
Virtual Console and Emulation is the true legacy of the Nintendo Wii. Motion Controls were only used to sell the system but we can all see that this was a gimmick that aged badly. Some were good but most motion controlled games were just made to trick non-gaming families into buying them. Almost like what happened to the games on the Atari 2600 and the NES that had many games that were just junk.
The true blessing and to me the #1 reason to use a Wii to emulate old games instead of my gaming PC, is that the Wii can effortlessly connect to a CRT TV and at least here in Europe, if connected through a SCART RGB cable is capable of displaying those games at real 240p with authentic scanlines. Even if the emulation itself might not be 100% accurate in some cases, it doesn't get more authentic then that ! No modern console/computer can do that. I'll keep my Wii 4ever 😁
I just like being able to play on the couch without moving my pc everytime cause all the retro games i play are usually around snes era. so the wii was fine for me since I had it laying about. Still use it to this day once in a while to play some mario or castlevania thanks to virtual console and snes9x for light gun games.
I don't see how this video doesn't have more views. This video covered EVERYTHING, and you did it very well, I might add 🙂. With the exception of a PC, the Wii is one of the best emulation beasts there is.
I used to play emulators on my Wii all the time. The best are the Snes and GBA. They seem to run almost 100% for me. 64 games are playable, but usually too glitchy to really enjoy fully. I'm glad I'm not the only one that had trouble loading roms in some of the other systems especially the PC, Dos, and Mame emulators. They aren't very user friendly plus with lots of compatibility errors, it can be very stressful to even get working. Thanks for going through all this effort, I know how much work this was. There's also nintendon't for gamecube. Its not really emulating because it uses the gamecube hardware built in, but it would be nice to include.
@@Bubba__Sawyer you can connect it using a usb cable to the back of the wii. As far as i am aware nintendont is the only piece of software that supports this
I don't know how I haven't heard of WiiMednafen, but it sounds like the overall best emulator for Wii Homebrew. I also remember the first emulators on the Wii back when the Twilight Hack was still the method of accessing homebrew, and the "Homebrew Channel" wasn't an actual channel yet. There were some older versions of SNES, NES, and Genesis emulators, and not a whole lot else that I can remember.
You forgot to mention Snes9x RX, which is a GX fork focused on full speed for heavy games, like the FX ones. BTW, mGBA is *not* the WiiMednafen's core, but an old version of VisualBoy Advance. Also, the reason why you were seeing extra things emulating Game Gear on GenesisPlusGX is because you had the GG Screen option set to Extended like when you're playing on a Power Base Converter, a misconfiguration on your part.
@@CowboyJoseph64 it does have screen centering, but no screen zoom per se. Nevertheless, it does screen stretching, if that's your jam. I do prefer pixel perfect aspect ratio, tbh.
THANK YOU. The most in-depth view of the current emulators on the Wii. You did an excellent job considering how many you looked at. There are some things you may have overlooked, some emulators actually are probably working as good as the real hardware if set up correctly but I do understand that a lot of the computer based emulators need prior knowledge of the system and often end up being too much trouble for most to bother with. When it comes to WiiMednafen I am in total agreement. I have no idea why more are not singing the praises of this fine emulator. One more you kinda missed which is outstanding is the Cannonball project which brings Out Run to the Wii in a way you won't believe. It is an amazing piece of work, do check it out!
You should make a video about emulators on GBA. No, I'm not kidding. I know there's at least emulators for NES, GB/GBC, Master System/Game Gear, and ZX Spectrum. Are there any others out there?
Jesus Christ there's also PC Engine, SNES, Neo Geo Pocket, MSX, DOS, BBC Micro, Sharp X1 Turbo... I doubt a lot of these emulators work good, but hot diggety DAMN.
If you have wii softmodded, all you need is usb loader (for wii games), snes, nes, gba (gb,gbc), virtual boy emulators. It runs perfectly and so much fun. I have nes just to find some random gem but snes is imo the best console ever. In your roms folder in root put all the selected games you like and then keep all the rest in a separate folder so you can explore less known titles.
The wii used to be my go to emulation machine when i was a teenager, i even modded it to run gamecube and wii games off my usb flashdrive then i got my gaming pc that can run even more emulators. Good times
@DOZR rare It's very easy to do. Download cIOS manager and the IOS you need (just google how to play .wbfs Wii games on your Wii) and once you inatall it, you'll be able to use USBLoader without it crashing. EDIT: It seems that you can just use a WAD manager to install all the necessary IOS. I would recommens doing that. There is a tutorial on UA-cam by Tech James showing how to fix issues with USB Loader by doing this.
just for information. Nintendont can emulate the Game Cube memory card and is compatible with third-party controller. You don't need an early model with GC's memory card and joystick compatibility to boot it. You just need the right configuration for your wii model.
The DSI and the 3DS in DSi mode do the same thing with the crashing. TwiLight Launcher's most stable skin is the default DSi launcher, so make sure to only do that. R4 and AceKard skins either didn't load the saves, or crashed when you loaded a game. Only difference between the DSi and 3DS crashes are the fact that the 3ds needs a hard reboot and dsi could do a soft one, mostly because the soft reboot was a hard reboot and didn't require you to reboot manually
Are you referring to the Pelican Wii stand? www.amazon.com/Pelican-Accessories-Wii-Console-Stand-Nintendo/dp/B000Q7ZNDQ/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
@@nighttrash4890 you gonna pay $60 for a broken game on day one that needs updates for 5 months before it can be played? YOU ARE NOT SUPPORTING THE INDUSTRY YOU ARE GIVING MONEY TO THE CORPORATE MASTERS. Learn to speak Chinese cause they own you.
For PCE/TG16 CD emulation you need the System Card BIOS file. The Arcade card too for a few games. Its the same on PC. Also, Air Zonk is amazing lol. Crazy that it was on a HuCard.
MAME ROM packs change often. In RetroArch MAME to get them to work correctly you need to check what rom pack the core you're using expects. That goes for MAME in general too. It's not user friendly but makes sense when you look at the technical reasons for it. Not gonna go in to details about it here.
I downloaded Not64 and Diddy Kong racing, everything was fine, besides one or two minimal graphical errors, but once I beated it, the second run became unplayable, the screen is just white
Something I saw missing, was that mGBA could actually run GB/GBC games. Compatibility used to be hit and miss, but now it crunches through any game you can throw at it at full speed with perfect compatibility, and things are even better on the GBA side of things with it.
Mednafen is alright on the PC, but being a console-only emulator, a frontend is required. Medneffe seems to work. (This is being done on linux on arch, Mednafen is in the repositories and mednaffe is in the AUR as a binary)
It's pretty simple to get a 4:3 aspect ratio in emulators that don't have the option, most if not all modern TVs have the ability to switch from 16:9 to 4:3 (some remotes have a dedicated button for switching aspect ratios on the fly) and many other aspect ratios.
I can definitely vouch for SNES9x Gx being a great emulator for the Wii. It can be used with pretty much any controller (although I often use a GameCube one myself) and it's got savestates built-in which is really handy. I often use it to play Live-a-Live since my repro cart no longer saves.
Probably! There are also two USB ports on the back of the Wii, so it's safe to assume those types of controllers may work. Plus you've got the ones that pair to the Wii like the Classic Controller.
40:25 there it says "ドライブ２にディスクBをに人れてください" or "Please, insert disk 2 in drive B" also in 40:47 it says: "任意のドライブにユーザーディスクを人れて下さい 準備が出来たらマウスを左クリックして下さい" "Insert the 'User disk' in any drive when you are ready click the left mouse button"
That disclaimer was painful to listen to. Simulation of theft? No, it’s outright theft. Deleting the files afterward is legally just disposing of evidence. “Yes, I did take that stuff from the warehouse, officer, but I burned it all after I recorded myself using it!” Yeah, admitting to theft _and_ destruction of evidence isn’t a legal defense I’d go with in court... Having said that, I genuinely don’t care, these games should mostly either be free or available cheap anyways. Nintendo _is_ in the right legally, though, since emulation can be shown to hinder sales of virtual console games, as well as uptake of their Switch online membership which comes with NES and SNES emulation and a growing collection of games for both. As I said, I don’t really care, but acting like the good guy while blatantly stealing, then trying to word it in a certain way as to seem more ambiguous than it is? A little bold.
I remember getting on alright with NES lightgun games in the FCEX-whatever-it's-called emulator; allowed me to actually play Duck Hunt in sorta the way it was intended!
Try SuperrSonic's version of RetroArch if you haven't. It gets rid of all the useless settings, allows you to reliably create core-specific and game-specific settings (custom resolutions, browser paths, etc.), rarely crashes and provides the best way to play CPS-1, CPS-2, Neo Geo and SNES games on the Wii IMO. The Snes9x Next core runs everything I've thrown at it perfectly (Contra and Gradius III SA-1 hacks are notable exceptions) and has less input lag than Snes9x GX. Also, it's handy that it comes with 2 NES cores: some games are rendered properly with Nestopia but not with FCEUmm and vice versa.
20:24 The special stages in Sonic CD perform like that on real hardware as well, sadly. That's something that the 2011 Christian Whitehead HD remaster fixed. ua-cam.com/video/fkNA3-Nb3bM/v-deo.html Otherwise, great video.
ZX Spectrum, those flashing lines and noise are completely normal.. that's the loading routine from cassette tapes, TZX files are tape images, as for the crashes at intro screens, those games probably require a different model of Spectrum such as the 128k, also some 48k games refused to load on a 128k and of course 128k games wouldn't load on a 48k Spectrum.. and the C64? you would be hard pressed to find a game on the C64 without joystick support, your problem was you were probably playing a game that used joysyick port 1, the majority of C64 games used port 2 as standard
Had my wii modded like this for yrs it’s the best console for home brew, just recently done my wiiu also My wii literally has 1000s if games on an ext hd
@@stedmangg Are you sure? The timer on the top had the seconds running down slower than real-time. Shouldn't an emulator fix console-hardware-specific slowdowns anyways? I mean, if it's truly accurate then I suppose that's cool but it did feel slower than usual to me.
One thing you didn't mention is that VBA GX can also run original Game Boy and Game Boy Color games. I've ran many GB and GBC games in VBA GX and most of them seemed to run fine as far as I could tell. I haven't heard of mGBA before, so I don't know if that runs GB and GBC games. I haven't heard of WiiMednafen either. Is that newer emulator? From what you're saying, it supposedly runs NES, Genesis/Mega Drive and Game Boy/GBC/GBA games better than other emulators, which are all consoles I like to play. So I'm gonna give WiiMednafen a try.
I'm doing this Wii emulator project getting some ideas from this video and for my experience I disagree with some of the Choice Emulators for Platforms : These are the best options for me until now: Atari 2600 - Wii2600 Coleco Vision - WiiColEm Nintendo: FCEUX TX - NES (the evolution of fcux gx with more options and runs better) alternative Nestopia in retroarch sounds much better its performance is simliar, but the interface in retroarch could be confusing. SNES9X GX - Super Nintendo VBA GX - Game Boy, Game Boy Color , Game Boy Advance GenPlusGX - Genesis, Master System WiiMednafen - PC Engine RetroArch - Neo Geo, CPS1, CPS2, CPS3 N64 works just bad I just have the virtual console games. Gonna still updating this comment
I'm curious. What makes FCEUX TX better than something like WiiMednafen? FR listed the latter as more pixel-accurate with higher compatibility than the former in the video.
Its a horizontal Wii stand with a storage box on the end that can hold a controller, nunchuck and sensor bar. www.ps4forums.gr/vb/showthread.php/114-Pelican-Wii-Console-Stand-Review
one thing about wii emulation I don't understand is that while the wii shop was up and running you could get up to n64 games on the wii like you would a psp with ps1 games. Why isn't there an equivalent of Eboots like the psp had?
Really appreciate this video! Was thinking of getting a Wii to add n64 and ps1 emulators too but it’s clear I should use a ps1 classic instead and wait for the n64 Classic!
Oh yeah, if you want a torture test, run Journeyman Project Turbo through Windows 3.11 on DOSBOX. Or even Operation: Inner Space. I think I got both games running on my Pi 3B but Journeyman Project Turbo was especially slow. Microman felt playable and about as fast as it would have on underpowered hardware. As for the light gun stuff, maybe Modern Vintage Gamer would take a crack at it?
I had that same problem with the Wii2600 menu and all the Atari 2600 games being stretched out. This is because my Wii was set to display in 16:9 aspect ratio for HDTVs, which means all of the homebrew apps were displayed in 16:9 by default. Some apps have an option to correct for 16:9 aspect ratio, but Wii2600 doesn't have that option, which means it will be stretched to 16:9. Believe me, I checked all through the Wii2600's settings and saw no option to set the aspect ratio to 4:3. The way I corrected this was by going into my Wii's main settings and setting the system's main aspect ratio to 4:3, so now whenever I run Wii2600 on my HDTV, it'll display in proper 4:3. The only issue with this is, if you're playing a Wii or GameCube game that has a widescreen option, you'll have to change Wii's settings back to 16:9 if you want to play those games in widescreen. But if you're like me and use the Wii mostly for retro game emulators, then having your Wii's main aspect ratio set to 4:3 is fine.
The reason why those emulators didn't support 4:3 is because they were actually in 4:3. The Wii only renders a 4:3 framebuffer, which is stretched out to 16:9. Whenever you're running a game in widescreen, it is anamorphic.
With the exception of games on the Xbox that actually run at 720p, that's how all of the 6th and 5th gen consoles did it. I know the Wii isn't 6th gen, but it is still relevant because it's just a super GameCube.
Interesting!
@@FrameRater If I am not mistaken, this issue is mostly fixed when you do things in the vWii on the WiiU, but the aspect ratio feature might also just be with official releases.
And the 360/one isnt?
@@Tiktaalik the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4/Pro, Xbox One/S/X, WiiU and Switch all put out a native widescreen image. I only mentioned the original Xbox because it actually had the ability to put out actual widescreen. You usually got Anamorphic widescreen, but in the case of certain games, like Amped 2, the game can natively run at a full 1280x720.
So the system gets confused and thinks it still needs to artificially widen the picture?
Wii can run emulators at original 240p resolution, which is awesome for CRTs.
The Wii is gods very own console of choice for this reason
You can run emulators at what ever settings you want. It's an emulator. Just change the settings. Also. The emulators on the Wii are almost all ports of other emulators. So they work on any system. It just depends what controllers you want to use.
A very good, and cheap alternative to old consoles with flashcarts. Get yourself a Mayflash Controller adapter and you've practically got the real deal.
@@NATESUCKSATGAMING Actually not really. Resolution scaling on the consoles is completely different from PCs. Nvidia gpus scales 240 very poorly
@@NATESUCKSATGAMING lmfao bud 240p and 480i are 15Khz signals -- Modern displays output *only* 30 khz signals, meaning you cannot natively run emulators at 240p or 480i unless the hardware supports being played on a CRT (and not a PC CRT, those are typically 30 khz as well) -- and even then, the emulator does need to know that this is the output resolution
God that "Wii would like to Play" ad is still stuck in my head and it's been over 10 years
PSPMan3000 I used to hear that all the time!!! Memories.
That was 10 years ago?
That's kind of unsettling...
Nobody 2004-2007 were the ads. Over 12 years ago
@@HistoryandReviews doesn't change that it's unsettling
Me tooo thought i was the only one lol
We watch
We comment
But most importantly
WiiMednafen
Nah... Retroarch is better
Jonathan LC who asked?
@@Thevamp1reking Who are you? Shut up...
@@Thevamp1reking Whatever...
@@jonathanlaurent3059 - No....no it's not.
I installed both, and while I use Retroarch it's only for Capcom system 1 and 2 - and the final burn alpha emulator. Retroarch is cool...but you have to go thru the ENTIRE SD card, for EVERY game, EVERY time. It's not nearly as convenient as Wii Mednafen is. Not even close bro, sorry.
14:46 There was a missed opportunity here.
"With the exception of Grand Dad. So I suppose compatibility while great, isn't 100%." Should've been
"With the exception of Grand Dad. So I suppose compatibility while great, isn't grand."
The Wii still makes the best little emulator box you can get. Having a single system that can output an accurate 240p signal for CRTs and the 480p for modern TVs is awesome.
Nintendont could somewhat be considered an emulator though, it'd be worth looking at in the future. It runs Gamecube games in Wii mode. Beyond letting one play Gamecube on non-BC Wiis and WiiUs, it also lets you use Wiimote+Nunchuck or the Classic controller for Gamecube games, lets you quit to the Wii menu without power cycling, and use virtual memory cards. Mario Kart Arcade GP and F-Zero AX work in it as well, but MK Arcade GP 2 doesn't yet.
That's weird, because I located a MK GP2 ISO and played it with nintendon't and I don't notice any issues, it even saves to the Mario Card properly. I haven't even found a MK GP1 ISO yet, just sometimes a MAME version.
arcade gp 2 did work for me though
I have a crisp 1080p tv but i also have a crt. To which tv would you recommend i hook up my wii to?
@@ggg235 Most 1080 screens handle 480i/p signals just fine over component video as long as you have decent quality cables. I have a similar setup, and use my modern TV for Wii, GameCube, and N64 games at 480p, while I use the CRT to run 8/16 bit emulators at true 240p.
If you have to use only 1 TV, most 240p emulators also support a 480p line doubled mode that modern TVs handle much better than real consoles' signals. All games will look good on either TV if set up properly, so pick whichever you'd rather play on.
@@piratebear3126 Idk i ended up connecting a standard RGB cable to my CRT TV since it's all i have atm and it looks amazing there. I'm looking to buy a component original cable to try it on the flat screen as well.
I had tried this with my PS2 and the PS2 looked god awful with component cable on the flat screen. That's why I was asking on your opinion :P
I would greatly appreciate an 'Emulation On 3DS / Playability Guide'
It's poorly documented on the internet
Syko same
Same
@@yzois sup quarantine bro
@@yzois 3ds first
Really cool to see footage of my GBA Doom II PC Conversion romhack from a UA-camr, I remember like 8 years ago running the original ROM on VBA and it lagging like hell.
Guys like you help keep the homebrew scene and it's derivatives turning. Even small works continue to inspire attract and bring joy to people in droves
Take a shot every time you hear "WiiMednafen"
ON THE WWE NETWORK
Time for alcohol poisoning
Dead
I think i need some wiimednafen for my headache.
wiimednafen
Nobody:
Emulator names: dswiitendopc69420
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and then theres WashingtonDC
An hour-long FrameRater video discussing emulators for an outdated system?
Finally this monday's looking up, that's exactly what I need.
Emulators on Wii: ...
WiiMednafen: I can do anything!
I still can't believe that G4TV's Attack of the Show actually showcased Wii emulation on freaking LIVE Television!
I'm sure the crew got hit with a C&D from Nintendo and decided not to ever air it again.
Why would they? Emulation isn't illegal.
Publicly that sounds like PR Nightmare trying to get into the legal ramification of emulation in the public
Not really. No one cares about emulation, there would be no PR lol
@@user-bp5py6bh3g Well actually what i meant to say was that they actually told people on live tv how to hack the Wii from needing a copy of Zelda Twilight Princess (Wii version) and then add the files to sd card, and showing the installation of The Homebrew Channel, etc...
@@user-bp5py6bh3g it's a grey area
2:47 "I don't know anything about this hardware besides brand name"
It really shows... You were trying to load PC-98 games on a PC-88 emulator, of course it's not going to work...
The man did say he didn't know 😁
I hate how you only have 57k subs. The work you put out is top-notch and deserves a lot more attention.
I like it because then people can have conversations in chat during live streams
@@ewjfpoefjwoiefj That is one plus of small channels, still this is one of the few times I'll actually say that he does indeed deserve more subs/likes/views because of how much effort he puts in
Retroarch on a WII on a CRT is mind blowing. I have well over 5000 roms working perfectly in native resolution. Mame2003 cores are out there and FBA plays a couple thousand arcade games also. Plus the version of retroarch you are using 1.7.7 doesnt do switchres properly, use 1.7.6.
I threw together WiiSXR over a few months based on what I could find. I generally reworked the code to optimize WiiSX. I didn't think I did too much, but apparently it worked better than I thought. I didn't aim to improve compatibility at all over WiiSX, just speed improvements.
Thanks for sharing! I still use the Wii occasionally so this will be a good resource. Also, I wasn't expecting the Oasis parody in the middle, but then again, I didn't expect anyone to name their game system "Wonderswan," either...
As someone who plays a hacked Wii nearly everyday, I can confirm Nintendont is fantastic for GameCube games and USB Loader GX for Wii games. It doesn’t emulate them of course, it just plays them natively.
Does USB loader gx let you go to the Wii menu from GameCube games? Wiiflow doesn't.
Since I shoved a load of emulators on my Wii years ago it's become a permanent part of my living room.
thescopedogable Dude yes! I’ve had my Wii since ‘07 and just added mores emulators. I play this thing more than my ps4.
Yeah I can relate. Spent about a year pimping my Wii out - painstakingly going through every emulator/rom to make sure they played...and of course cramming as much stuff as possible. Still love it - still play it.
@@mattpurvis927 we need a comprehensive guide, too much vad info out there
Nobody:
Modded Wii: Exception (DSI) Occurred
Me trying to run the port of Doom exception DSİ occured
The weird noises and visuals on the ZX Spectrum emulator was the game itself loading. That's how ZX Spectrum games look and sound while they're loading, because ZX Spectrum games were mostly distributed on tape. Looks like the emulator doesn't support the "Fast Load" option that's on most other Spectrum emulators.
37:40 That's supposed to happen!! The screeching audio/flashing bars are the game being loaded into the Spectrum's RAM in cassette format. As foreign as it sounds to American home computer users, games on cassette were much more common than cartridges outside North America (mostly in Europe, which is where the Spectrum's primary market was anyway)
Hey there's something you should know about Sega CD games on Genesis Plus GX, music will only play in .bin+.cue versions or iso+ogg combos
I had stunt race FX as a kid, it was surprisingly good. I thought it was great how you could drive underwater in that glass tunnel in one of the stages.
We’re now as far removed from the Wii chronologically as the N64 was from the NES.
So Wii is retro now?
@@CB_GAMES777 Yes.
@@Anthonybrother no, the Wii is too modern too be the retro, all consoles prior 7th gen are indeed retro though.
@@codezero7981 naw wii is 2 generations behind the switch, its retro
I remember the Wii from back in the days. When we went to my uncles house for my parents to play Mii games, the good ol' days
Hmm, here's a tip if you ever do one of these kinds of videos again: If you ever run across another NEC PC98 emulator, I believe you should be testing Touhou in it. People that emulate that system are generally in it for one of two things: early Visual Novels sort of games or to see the original Touhou games. It'd be more useful to see those running, then, as those would be the games people would most likely boot in it.
Note: VBA GX can do Gameboy Games, Gameboy Color Games, and Gameboy Advanced Games.
Virtual Console and Emulation is the true legacy of the Nintendo Wii.
Motion Controls were only used to sell the system but we can all see that this was a gimmick that aged badly.
Some were good but most motion controlled games were just made to trick non-gaming families into buying them.
Almost like what happened to the games on the Atari 2600 and the NES that had many games that were just junk.
Ngl motion isnt a gimmick m.ua-cam.com/video/binPB4YbWmM/v-deo.html
"Oh hey, this guy has the same figures as framerater."
*checks the uploaders name*
"...Oh."
That Wonderswan song was..... My god it was beautiful.
The true blessing and to me the #1 reason to use a Wii to emulate old games instead of my gaming PC, is that the Wii can effortlessly connect to a CRT TV and at least here in Europe, if connected through a SCART RGB cable is capable of displaying those games at real 240p with authentic scanlines. Even if the emulation itself might not be 100% accurate in some cases, it doesn't get more authentic then that ! No modern console/computer can do that. I'll keep my Wii 4ever 😁
I just like being able to play on the couch without moving my pc everytime cause all the retro games i play are usually around snes era. so the wii was fine for me since I had it laying about. Still use it to this day once in a while to play some mario or castlevania thanks to virtual console and snes9x for light gun games.
I don't see how this video doesn't have more views. This video covered EVERYTHING, and you did it very well, I might add 🙂. With the exception of a PC, the Wii is one of the best emulation beasts there is.
Don't forget the OG Xbox!
@@FrameRater can i use this emulators on a wiiu?
And remember, WiiMednaFen.
I'm disappointed you did'nt end the video on that.
I used to play emulators on my Wii all the time. The best are the Snes and GBA. They seem to run almost 100% for me. 64 games are playable, but usually too glitchy to really enjoy fully. I'm glad I'm not the only one that had trouble loading roms in some of the other systems especially the PC, Dos, and Mame emulators. They aren't very user friendly plus with lots of compatibility errors, it can be very stressful to even get working. Thanks for going through all this effort, I know how much work this was. There's also nintendon't for gamecube. Its not really emulating because it uses the gamecube hardware built in, but it would be nice to include.
mGBA on wii is literally perfect. it plays both crash nitro kart and duke nukem (3D games) at full speed with no problems whatsoever.
Wii emulation is badass. Playing gamecube games with a ps4 controller on my wii is insane. Nice video man. Makes me want to set mine up again.
How does a PS4 controller work on the Wii?
@@Bubba__Sawyer you can connect it using a usb cable to the back of the wii. As far as i am aware nintendont is the only piece of software that supports this
I don't know how I haven't heard of WiiMednafen, but it sounds like the overall best emulator for Wii Homebrew.
I also remember the first emulators on the Wii back when the Twilight Hack was still the method of accessing homebrew, and the "Homebrew Channel" wasn't an actual channel yet. There were some older versions of SNES, NES, and Genesis emulators, and not a whole lot else that I can remember.
How did twilight hack work? How did the old homebrew "channel" work?
You forgot to mention Snes9x RX, which is a GX fork focused on full speed for heavy games, like the FX ones.
BTW, mGBA is *not* the WiiMednafen's core, but an old version of VisualBoy Advance. Also, the reason why you were seeing extra things emulating Game Gear on GenesisPlusGX is because you had the GG Screen option set to Extended like when you're playing on a Power Base Converter, a misconfiguration on your part.
To be fair, I don't think genesis plus gx allows you to zoom in on the screen, so wiimednafen might still be preferable.
@@CowboyJoseph64 it does have screen centering, but no screen zoom per se. Nevertheless, it does screen stretching, if that's your jam. I do prefer pixel perfect aspect ratio, tbh.
@@DrAcOFoto I definitely do too.
THANK YOU. The most in-depth view of the current emulators on the Wii. You did an excellent job considering how many you looked at. There are some things you may have overlooked, some emulators actually are probably working as good as the real hardware if set up correctly but I do understand that a lot of the computer based emulators need prior knowledge of the system and often end up being too much trouble for most to bother with. When it comes to WiiMednafen I am in total agreement. I have no idea why more are not singing the praises of this fine emulator. One more you kinda missed which is outstanding is the Cannonball project which brings Out Run to the Wii in a way you won't believe. It is an amazing piece of work, do check it out!
The wonderswan song had me dying.
Especially at the end of it with the little squeak, it made me laugh like a hyena
Is it gone now?
@@oof5992 it seems like it :(
@@Yodagamer1 Man...
I just love this channel so much. Thank you for all of the work you've put into these emu videos!
You should make a video about emulators on GBA.
No, I'm not kidding. I know there's at least emulators for NES, GB/GBC, Master System/Game Gear, and ZX Spectrum. Are there any others out there?
Jesus Christ there's also PC Engine, SNES, Neo Geo Pocket, MSX, DOS, BBC Micro, Sharp X1 Turbo... I doubt a lot of these emulators work good, but hot diggety DAMN.
Bump
@@Biskut Bump what?
@@CowboyJoseph64 nothing, you bump a comment so it gets more attention as it moves closer to the top
Polocatfan I swear if a comment has comments that moves it up
If you have wii softmodded, all you need is usb loader (for wii games), snes, nes, gba (gb,gbc), virtual boy emulators. It runs perfectly and so much fun. I have nes just to find some random gem but snes is imo the best console ever. In your roms folder in root put all the selected games you like and then keep all the rest in a separate folder so you can explore less known titles.
The wii used to be my go to emulation machine when i was a teenager, i even modded it to run gamecube and wii games off my usb flashdrive then i got my gaming pc that can run even more emulators. Good times
@DOZR rare
What do you need help with?
@DOZR rare
You might be missing an IOS. I want to say it's 249, but I might be wrong.
@DOZR rare
It's very easy to do. Download cIOS manager and the IOS you need (just google how to play .wbfs Wii games on your Wii) and once you inatall it, you'll be able to use USBLoader without it crashing.
EDIT: It seems that you can just use a WAD manager to install all the necessary IOS. I would recommens doing that. There is a tutorial on UA-cam by Tech James showing how to fix issues with USB Loader by doing this.
The reason you can't hear anything on air zonk and sonic cd is because it isn't emulating the cd part and the cd part handles the audio in that game.
0:00 Damn, That 80's Camera has Really good Video Quality!
just for information.
Nintendont can emulate the Game Cube memory card and is compatible with third-party controller.
You don't need an early model with GC's memory card and joystick compatibility to boot it. You just need the right configuration for your wii model.
You know, this is a high quality video. Great job this is very thorough.
The DSI and the 3DS in DSi mode do the same thing with the crashing. TwiLight Launcher's most stable skin is the default DSi launcher, so make sure to only do that. R4 and AceKard skins either didn't load the saves, or crashed when you loaded a game.
Only difference between the DSi and 3DS crashes are the fact that the 3ds needs a hard reboot and dsi could do a soft one, mostly because the soft reboot was a hard reboot and didn't require you to reboot manually
The Akmenu skin used to crash my 3DS with a Guru Meditation Error screen. The default DSi Menu skin is the more stable.
Excuse me, what is that wii addon/modification?
Agreed I want to know what it is
I am wondering the same thing too.
Are you referring to the Pelican Wii stand? www.amazon.com/Pelican-Accessories-Wii-Console-Stand-Nintendo/dp/B000Q7ZNDQ/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
@@joemanfred5738 dude what the fuck is wrong with the item description on that page
Wii stand fool
take a shot everytime he says Mendafen and you'll be drunk in a few minutes.
I love videos about emulation. Thanks for making this Frame!
he defend
he spend
but most importantly
wiimednafen
Always Remember: Don’t Pirate 25 Year Old Games
;^)
Outsider that doesn’t support the gaming industry at all. It only supports the person who bought the game
NightTrash Yes, that's the point Outsider is making.
@@nighttrash4890 you gonna pay $60 for a broken game on day one that needs updates for 5 months before it can be played?
YOU ARE NOT SUPPORTING THE INDUSTRY YOU ARE GIVING MONEY TO THE CORPORATE MASTERS. Learn to speak Chinese cause they own you.
@@SAM-ru4vx i think ill give my money to nintendo selling mario maker 2 for $60 instead of ranjeesh from ebay selling an snes game for $200
For PCE/TG16 CD emulation you need the System Card BIOS file. The Arcade card too for a few games. Its the same on PC.
Also, Air Zonk is amazing lol. Crazy that it was on a HuCard.
Do you know how to get it to work on Wiimednafen? I've tried, but I can't get Atari Lynx or TGCD games to work.
MAME ROM packs change often. In RetroArch MAME to get them to work correctly you need to check what rom pack the core you're using expects.
That goes for MAME in general too. It's not user friendly but makes sense when you look at the technical reasons for it. Not gonna go in to details about it here.
The most important thing I learned was that the PC Engine had a sequel
Yep, and it had a whopping 5 games released for it. It did have the best console version of Ghouls 'n Ghosts though.
FR: Yeah I'm not super into the wonderswan
*composes the only song about the wonderswan that will ever exist*
I hacked my wii back in 2011, has a lot of really cool emulator options. Thanks for covering so many FrameRater, great video.
I downloaded Not64 and Diddy Kong racing, everything was fine, besides one or two minimal graphical errors, but once I beated it, the second run became unplayable, the screen is just white
Something I saw missing, was that mGBA could actually run GB/GBC games. Compatibility used to be hit and miss, but now it crunches through any game you can throw at it at full speed with perfect compatibility, and things are even better on the GBA side of things with it.
Mednafen is alright on the PC, but being a console-only emulator, a frontend is required. Medneffe seems to work.
(This is being done on linux on arch, Mednafen is in the repositories and mednaffe is in the AUR as a binary)
I’m currently writing my own Mednafen frontend. ✌️
It's pretty simple to get a 4:3 aspect ratio in emulators that don't have the option, most if not all modern TVs have the ability to switch from 16:9 to 4:3 (some remotes have a dedicated button for switching aspect ratios on the fly) and many other aspect ratios.
oh my God, the reference to wonderwall is outstanding!
FYI: the DS emulator can be improved with Frameskip. To control Frameskip, use the - and + buttons.
I can definitely vouch for SNES9x Gx being a great emulator for the Wii. It can be used with pretty much any controller (although I often use a GameCube one myself) and it's got savestates built-in which is really handy.
I often use it to play Live-a-Live since my repro cart no longer saves.
How do you use other controllers on the Wii? Do they plug into the GameCube controller ports?
Probably! There are also two USB ports on the back of the Wii, so it's safe to assume those types of controllers may work. Plus you've got the ones that pair to the Wii like the Classic Controller.
40:25 there it says "ドライブ２にディスクBをに人れてください" or "Please, insert disk 2 in drive B"
also in 40:47 it says:
"任意のドライブにユーザーディスクを人れて下さい
準備が出来たらマウスを左クリックして下さい"
"Insert the 'User disk' in any drive
when you are ready click the left mouse button"
I use VBA (and GX) for standard Gameboy/Colour games. It's more convenient to have one emu. Can MGBA run gameboy games too?
That disclaimer was painful to listen to. Simulation of theft? No, it’s outright theft. Deleting the files afterward is legally just disposing of evidence. “Yes, I did take that stuff from the warehouse, officer, but I burned it all after I recorded myself using it!” Yeah, admitting to theft _and_ destruction of evidence isn’t a legal defense I’d go with in court...
Having said that, I genuinely don’t care, these games should mostly either be free or available cheap anyways. Nintendo _is_ in the right legally, though, since emulation can be shown to hinder sales of virtual console games, as well as uptake of their Switch online membership which comes with NES and SNES emulation and a growing collection of games for both.
As I said, I don’t really care, but acting like the good guy while blatantly stealing, then trying to word it in a certain way as to seem more ambiguous than it is? A little bold.
I remember getting on alright with NES lightgun games in the FCEX-whatever-it's-called emulator; allowed me to actually play Duck Hunt in sorta the way it was intended!
Try SuperrSonic's version of RetroArch if you haven't. It gets rid of all the useless settings, allows you to reliably create core-specific and game-specific settings (custom resolutions, browser paths, etc.), rarely crashes and provides the best way to play CPS-1, CPS-2, Neo Geo and SNES games on the Wii IMO. The Snes9x Next core runs everything I've thrown at it perfectly (Contra and Gradius III SA-1 hacks are notable exceptions) and has less input lag than Snes9x GX. Also, it's handy that it comes with 2 NES cores: some games are rendered properly with Nestopia but not with FCEUmm and vice versa.
Umm, what is that thing connected to your Wii? I've never seen that before.
Pelican Wii Stand. It is just for aesthetic purposes and you can find it on Amazon.
man you are my new favorite YT channel to watch great info!
20:24 The special stages in Sonic CD perform like that on real hardware as well, sadly. That's something that the 2011 Christian Whitehead HD remaster fixed.
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Otherwise, great video.
ZX Spectrum, those flashing lines and noise are completely normal.. that's the loading routine from cassette tapes, TZX files are tape images, as for the crashes at intro screens, those games probably require a different model of Spectrum such as the 128k, also some 48k games refused to load on a 128k and of course 128k games wouldn't load on a 48k Spectrum.. and the C64? you would be hard pressed to find a game on the C64 without joystick support, your problem was you were probably playing a game that used joysyick port 1, the majority of C64 games used port 2 as standard
It's worth pointing out that the PlayStation emulators don't support light gun mapping with the Wii Remote. So sad. :,(
ye man I want to play point blank would be better use the Nintendo sensors on a lcd instead of buying a psx and a crt and the guns
30:27 Actually I didn't know I had been waiting for this until it happened.
Thank you.
Had my wii modded like this for yrs it’s the best console for home brew, just recently done my wiiu also
My wii literally has 1000s if games on an ext hd
Merry Christmas Everyone
Sonic CD normally lags on the special stages
He told that on the video.
@@stedmangg Ohh, I didn't know that. I played Sonic CD on Gen Plus GX on the Wii and I haven't noticed any sort of lag.
@@stedmangg Are you sure? The timer on the top had the seconds running down slower than real-time. Shouldn't an emulator fix console-hardware-specific slowdowns anyways? I mean, if it's truly accurate then I suppose that's cool but it did feel slower than usual to me.
One thing you didn't mention is that VBA GX can also run original Game Boy and Game Boy Color games. I've ran many GB and GBC games in VBA GX and most of them seemed to run fine as far as I could tell. I haven't heard of mGBA before, so I don't know if that runs GB and GBC games. I haven't heard of WiiMednafen either. Is that newer emulator? From what you're saying, it supposedly runs NES, Genesis/Mega Drive and Game Boy/GBC/GBA games better than other emulators, which are all consoles I like to play. So I'm gonna give WiiMednafen a try.
I'm doing this Wii emulator project getting some ideas from this video and for my experience I disagree with some of the Choice Emulators for Platforms :
These are the best options for me until now:
Atari 2600 - Wii2600
Coleco Vision - WiiColEm
Nintendo:
FCEUX TX - NES (the evolution of fcux gx with more options and runs better) alternative Nestopia in retroarch sounds much better its performance is simliar, but the interface in retroarch could be confusing.
SNES9X GX - Super Nintendo
VBA GX - Game Boy, Game Boy Color , Game Boy Advance
GenPlusGX - Genesis, Master System
WiiMednafen - PC Engine
RetroArch - Neo Geo, CPS1, CPS2, CPS3
N64 works just bad I just have the virtual console games.
Gonna still updating this comment
I'm curious. What makes FCEUX TX better than something like WiiMednafen? FR listed the latter as more pixel-accurate with higher compatibility than the former in the video.
For the NES emulator you can also use the NES mini controller.
39:33 Looks like someone with parkisons using a PC
lol
Very good review on Emulation On Wii / Playability Guide 👍
Quick question what the white attachment on the side of the Wii ?
what is that attachment hooked on the side of your wii.
How can the Wii run GameCube games but not Dreamcast and struggles with ps1. Am disappoint
0:27 what is that attachment on the wii
You Forgot FCE Ultra RX, SNES9X RX, WIISXRX,mGBA Enhanced,Wii64 Rice and Probrably There will be a commodore 65 emulator on wii out there
what is that thing on the end of the Wii? 🤔
Its a horizontal Wii stand with a storage box on the end that can hold a controller, nunchuck and sensor bar.
www.ps4forums.gr/vb/showthread.php/114-Pelican-Wii-Console-Stand-Review
one thing about wii emulation I don't understand is that while the wii shop was up and running you could get up to n64 games on the wii like you would a psp with ps1 games. Why isn't there an equivalent of Eboots like the psp had?
Really appreciate this video! Was thinking of getting a Wii to add n64 and ps1 emulators too but it’s clear I should use a ps1 classic instead and wait for the n64 Classic!
Oh yeah, if you want a torture test, run Journeyman Project Turbo through Windows 3.11 on DOSBOX. Or even Operation: Inner Space. I think I got both games running on my Pi 3B but Journeyman Project Turbo was especially slow. Microman felt playable and about as fast as it would have on underpowered hardware.
As for the light gun stuff, maybe Modern Vintage Gamer would take a crack at it?
The Nintendo Wii: Cant even play the classic that is G R A N D D A D
GRAND
I had that same problem with the Wii2600 menu and all the Atari 2600 games being stretched out. This is because my Wii was set to display in 16:9 aspect ratio for HDTVs, which means all of the homebrew apps were displayed in 16:9 by default. Some apps have an option to correct for 16:9 aspect ratio, but Wii2600 doesn't have that option, which means it will be stretched to 16:9. Believe me, I checked all through the Wii2600's settings and saw no option to set the aspect ratio to 4:3. The way I corrected this was by going into my Wii's main settings and setting the system's main aspect ratio to 4:3, so now whenever I run Wii2600 on my HDTV, it'll display in proper 4:3.
The only issue with this is, if you're playing a Wii or GameCube game that has a widescreen option, you'll have to change Wii's settings back to 16:9 if you want to play those games in widescreen. But if you're like me and use the Wii mostly for retro game emulators, then having your Wii's main aspect ratio set to 4:3 is fine.
Benjamin Velez that's a pain
Notification squad where are you
What is that thing sitting on the right of the wii console? Never seen that before.
Wow wiimednafan, talk about a monopoly.