The History of the Downfall of Sentai
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2019
- Sentai's at a weird point in its life where things seem to be going from bad to worse. Ryusoulger plays a vital part in the survival of Sentai and today we're going to look at the series of events that lead to this being the reality for the franchise.
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I think slightly reducing the number of weapons, gadgets, mechs, etc and giving the existing ones more impact in the story would make kids more compelled to buy them.
@Jay Morales kamen rider and all it's gimmicks recently had recently proves your point
Muh dood I agree, seeing all that ridiculous bright colored gear makes me cringe. All flash no substance, also the kids they pick for heroes like too damn soft and the anime style hair perm also look ridiculous, they need to scale it down a little.
@@demgutts what sentai needs is hire better actors, well designed human villains,reduce the amount of fillers focus on the story good action scenes characters and suit actors to match these said characters
laugh in kamen rider
@Sailor Sedna Everything else i said also applies
If Toei were to cancel Sentai, they would produce one final Sentai that would be the best series with high drama. Then that series would become insanely popular and Super Sentai will be revived once again!
Hey it worked with Jetman!
Isn't that what happened with the 6th season of Power Rangers too?
It worked for Power Rangers In Space.
Shan Chaudhry Good idea, probably wouldn’t work out if America wanted to make an American version of that series though. Since three of the older rangers are gone. Trini from Mighty Morphin died in a crash, Cole from Wild Force is in jail till 2023. And I forgot the other one but he also died a little while ago. Maybe we could see them only morphed using the Sentai footage. I’ve never really seen Sentai so idk if anyone from their older shows are gone as well. Either way, that’s still a pretty cool idea that I’m sure generations of people could all get behind.
agreed but not a power rangers fan
Kamen Rider has done the same thing.
The issue is suprisingly simple: The show has lost its focus.
If you compare the more recent shows to, lets say, season from the 2000s or, heck, the 90ies, you can clearly feel the difference in approach to the audience. The newer shows try to appeal to the age group 6 and lower, while the older ones went for 6 and up, and this is were the problems originate from. Bandai and Toei wanted to widen their target demographic by aiming Sentai to a younger audience then Kamen Rider because they thought that these two shows would bite each other in merch-sales if both went for the same demographic. This however hurt Sentai a lot just like you explained. The thought-process of "Make it simpler for younger children" created a giant rift. Older/ Long-time fans got irritated by that change of direction, and the show couldn't get the wanted younger audience because it didn't take them seriously as well. Best example beeing me, Toqqer allmost made me quit the franchise entirly and I know a lot of other fans who felt the same. I know Fans who live in Japan, and even they were shocked when the infamous fourth episode aired (That's the one were the legendary Train-schlong originated from that legit also killed even the tiniest chance of Toqqer ever getting a PR adaptation).
You can make a good show and tell a good story even if you write it for little children, the secret for that is to take them serious as well which is what Sentai didn't do. Instead we get even weirder and weirder shows with more and more questionable humor and dumbed down storys. LuPat started with such a strong premise but failed because it stagnated completly allmost instantly. I know that sounds weird, but kids are more likely interested in a action-series if they can invest themselfs in it. Give them a good story with great characters that makes it fun to follow their adventures and, shocker! they might want to get the toy-versions of the heroes they like to follow.
But on that note, the toys have the same issues as the show. The designers were forced to simplifiy them more and more over the years, and they finally had reached a point that a lot of people thought was just an inside-joke of the fan community. The robots became just litteral bricks with arms attached to them. This is also what made kids loose interest in Sentai, they don't get to really play with the figures anymore. They just get to stack 3 different coloured blocks on top of each other, and thats it. And, unlike lego, that stack is the only real configuration you get out of them, making them feel very limited on their own. Compare that to, for example, a gattai-robot like Flash-King. That figure is now allmost 25 years old and is yet so straight forward and complex while still beeing simple. It's a very easy transformation, but you still have to pull and fold over enough parts to keep it fun and engaging while you assemble him. That is what's missing from the modern designs in Sentai. These toys are action figures, but they are puzzles as well, and that part gets thrown away for a gimmick nobody will care about in about 2-3 weeks after release on a constant basis. Make kids wonder ""How do these 3 objects form that robot???" and give them a amazing solution while also giving the robot a great design. That's the magic of super sentai, and I hope Bandai maybe remembers this one day...
Same as Power Rangers to me.
I got 3 horribly constructed sentences in before realizing you've never watched Lupin v. Patranger
@@jaywest3734 yeah power rangers has had the same problem to no surprise.
@@jaygardner6639 ...
Almost true. I'm personally more of a KR fan because the plot is somewhat more mature and the main character despite being pretty childish, stupid or idiot but they all had character development or depth that changes them (except Ghost). Sentai however have problem with the main character they always pick either hot-headed idiot, easygoing idiot or happy-go-lucky idiot and it is very annoying in each season (with a few exception but I'm not going to list them). And the plot are just too childish I mean sure this show meant for kids but everyone else want to watch it too dammit.
I hate that good shows like Go-Busters and Lupat despite being good shows are labeled as failures due to financial underperformance. Maybe if sentai mechs were able to have ACTUAL articulation things would have been better.
...but did they ever have real articulation?
I'd worry about their looks before thinking of the articulation.
Nowadays, only the first basic combined mecha looks good and the final forms look like ass. I loved Kyuranger's mechas, until they had to combine more than five on a single body.
@@loliH9 transformers
@@TrajGreekFire Yeah, Bandai might be able to add the articulation while keeping the transformation as is if the super mini-plas are anything to go by.
Still, more articulation wouldn't fix Jyuouger's final mecha.
Traj Funny thing, Toqger is the one that made me quit sentai
I really feel bad that such good Series like Go-Busters & Lupin v Pat are marked as unsuccessful due to these toy sales....Really hope Ryusoulger pulls through for Toei to not have to cancel Super Sentai.
Gobusters and LuPat are my favourite seasons too
Though I'm not really a sentai fan (more to kamen riders), i agree with Gobusters. It had the cool, secret organization theme of 80s vibe to it, like the showa shows such as Gorangers and JAKQ.
@@amau994 im mainly a KR fan too
It could get cancelled and be revived in a way like Kamen Rider. In all honesty that would probably be the best that could happen mainly because sentai has been more formulaic than ever.
I don't know why they would be canceled. The people of Japan would be very disappointed. Japan needs to not look at bottom line toy prices cause they will fuck themselves over
I didn't know the Sentai was in such bad shape. That makes my heart sad.
My explanation for that is the suits and zords. These are 20 minute toy commercials. If your toys look like crap, no one would bother watch it. Ninninger's zords are very unimpressive. After that, the suits look horrible. The cops and robbers suits looked as if they were made before Goranger. The zords had gone downhill after go busters. Fix the suits and the zords. That's the number 1 thing to deal with first. Look at ohranger. Most unwatched sentai yet the big toy sales prevented it from cancellation.
to think that people would rather buy shapes with limbs rather than whatever we have right now
Lupiranger vs patranger was amazing tf?
I think you hit the nail on the head. Over the years the transformation devices have gotten quite a bit better, but I've had no real desire to go all in on the mechas. I remember the zyuohger mecha toy was particularly appalling.
Hopefully ryusoulger ends up being exactly what this franchise needs because I sure as hell don't wanna see it die anytime soon
Then of course there's the power rangers.
Just remember, if Sentai dies, Power Rangers will die too.
@@LoyalmoonieProductions Either that or Hasbro may ACTUALLY have to come up with something ... ORIGINAL.
Loyalmoonie Not necessarily. Now that HASBRO is producing POWER RANGERS even if SENTAI dies they just might keep producing POWER RANGERS just with all American footage. That's basically what they're doing now with BEAST MORPHERS.
I think Super Sentai need to make a new series similar to Jetman. The show deserves some blame. These shows are basically advertisements for toys. Jetman is great for its story, characters, drama, and toys. It is widely considered one of the best or the best Sentai in many circles. I am surprised they never tried this formula again.
I think the older Sentai series from 1979 to 1993 (excluding Zyuranger) are the best series. They have darker stories and exciting peril. The current Sentai target a young demographic of around six to ten years old. These recent series are childish and lack serious peril.
Those times no one didn't care much about violence too its becuase this generation is so soft or they have to put super sentai at a different time to make it like jettoman again
@@prettycureforever7102 it is realy hard to make another jetman in this day but dairanger type is possible. It has just enough comedy, action, violence that a sentai show need.
Awesome Card Games I agree with you. Super Sentai has always had more lackluster writing than Kamen Rider or even Ultraman, but Jetman shows us that doesn't necessarily have to be the case.
Awesome Card Games just like you said, the creators need to create stories and characters more akin to the older Sentai shows like Jetman, Flashman or Liveman (my favorite Sentai show ever). Relatable characters, memorable villains and good drama = PROFIT.
Gotta agree. I found Kishiryu Sentai Ryusoulger damn near unwatchable. Like trying to sit through Barney.
Great video! Sentai is definitely in a tight spot right now. Even with Lupat doing better ratings wise than the past few seasons, it had pretty much no toys after Q2. Hopefully, it can come back around with Ryusoulger, and keep itself going. Can't wait to see what you come out with next.
I fucking love you matt
I recently finished Lupat myself and thought the story was pretty good myself.
Well if Ryusoulger fails, it might be a good idea to do another parody of the Sentai concept kinda like Carranger
Larry: Carranger did horribly with audiences though. And moreover: Carranger wasn't a parody or satire. People just stabbed that label on it to try and dismiss it's severe narrative issues; after it started dropping its comedy in it's latter half did it actually start to do better, disregard that though, and it was doing worse episode-by-epiosde than Ohranger the prior year, whose lower viewership had an excuse in the show being screwed over by a terrorist attack making them change that show into a farce. A Parody series at this point, when the farcial elements of sentai that break the setting are a significant part to why Super sentai's done so badly since Kyoryuger ended (on top of the horrible leads we've kept having in Tqoger onwards), would do more to kill it than draw people back.
As for Lupat doing better in ratings...again, it didn't. While it's in the margin of 'lost audience due to population stagnation', the final ratings average tabulated to 2.9%. Kyuranger, which I found a MUCH worse series averaged out to 3% viewership, according to data accumulated from the Atwiki and several other sources that keep track of the numbers; and Lupat also did rather poorly in sales...though I've yet to find someone who's stated an exact figure sadly. Lupat's big issue that pushed people away was the insistence on the faction antagonism that was the show's entire selling point, as there was little in-narrative reason for it to exist without one side or the other coming off as horrible, unappealing people as a result of it--the lupinranger on average coming out on top as more popular because they were rarely the aggressors in the feud--and that hurt the show immensely as if you don't have characters who will appeal to the audience in the forefront...why should people bother watching? Sentai versus events (And by proxy toei's other super hero crossovers) where they have the various teams fighting each-other historically have always done badly in comparison to ones where they do a straight teamup or one group is working to rescue another from brainwashing, so insistence on maintaining that gimmick is one of many aspects to why it backfired.
@@ShintaReviews Time for Akibaranger season 3: really though I dunno - ppl keep suggesting different themes, but many of them are things Kamen has already done extremely well. I have no idea what the right move is.
Meanwhile, at Hasbro's Beast Morphers display at NYTF, the Beast X Megazord (Gobuster-Oh) has elbows.
Something Bandai has yet to do with any sentai mecha so far. The one for Ryusoulger looks like it has them, but they've only shown it standing up straight with its arms at the side.
I really hope Sentai doesn't go down...but you do have good points, I really hope they do survive for a long time
I think what sentai needs is a bit of back-to-basics
Transformation devices have gotten cooler, but the mechas had gotten worse after toqger....
Kyurenoh was good
I think KishiRyuOh looks cool and slim to the point where I want to buy the DX. It's not a brick and have a little bit articulation.
Gobusters had the coolest gadgets IMO. Its the sentai equivalent to Faiz in the kamen rider side. Sad the sales wasn't doing good since the show quality was good.
Zyohuger has the worse.
Yeah with that megazord that’s power is having a boner
Great video! However, I’d like to hear your opinion on one thing: Since Sentai these days is typically targeted to kids aged 3-5, do you think Japan’s birth rate decline is another possible factor to Sentai’s troublesome toy sales lately? Japan’s birth rate has steadily decreased every year since the early 1990s but I know that number doesn’t always go hand-in-hand with Sentai toy sales since, for example, Gokaiger and Kyoryuger were big hits in 2011 and 2013. But with where Sentai is now after Toqger, maybe Japan’s decreasing birth rate is finally impacting Sentai’s toy sales.
Thanks! I definitely think the birth rate is having an impact. I took a look at the Bandai Namco sales charts they released a few days ago and all their big sellers are popular with both kids and adults. (Dragon Ball and Gundam being the big ones) While there is definitely an adult fanbase with purchasing power, I think the fanbase is overwhelmingly skewed towards the target demographic. I think it'd be an interesting idea to experiment with a show that can be seen as for the entire family as opposed to being just for kids. (which is the perception of most toku shows these days)
@@LostInTokusatsu that's the same problem power rangers has. But instead of birthrate we have the super hero golden age, and kids just don't care about power rangers. It's the older collectors that keeps it alive. The show and brand all together HAS to be for all ages, and stop the pandering. Demographics just don't work anymore. Kids are watching rated 14 shows and adults are watching my little pony. Just make stuff for everyone and grab who you can grab
Kamen Rider and Sentai have been far too reliant on the collectible noise maker toy. Instead of making a show where the suits are cool and the robots are good you have them based around a gimmick. This doesn't help you throughout the year if people think the gimmick sucks. Zyuohger for example; The suits were good but frankly the robots were garbage. People might like minecraft but the concept of just stacking blocks was dull.
well atleast Kamen Rider dare to give us the likes of The First, The Next or Amazons
that focused more on stories rather than sold toys
but maybe those arent profitable.... toys bring money
At least for kamen rider, they made the toy gimmick a part of their story. You can see gaim for example. Toei told gen to make story that can relate to the toy(fruit theme).
That is what separate kamen from sentai. Sentai made the story , then add gimmick. That's why sometime it feel off sometime.
The big difference is that Kamen Rider is doing well compared to Super Sentai. For example, Kotetsu Toys put out that modern SS shows have trouble reaching 10B yen, but KR Build was over 26B yen.
Man, Super Sentai was my first exposure to Tokusatsu before i knew about Power Ranger, back in the day people watch TV majority of the time which also contribute its sales.
Nowadays, younger generation just dont get into Tokusatsu anymore, i have been to Japanese elementry school during my field trip, i saw more Yokai monster, Pokemon eta. There are few children still recognize Kyuuranger but not as exciting compare to those title. Couple of University students in Japan who grew up with Toei expressed that Sentai stories are getting too amateur and boring for them to enjoy compare to Kamen Rider at the very least has some good developement.
They also suffer broadcasting time problem, their air time is 7:30AM which people tend to have hard time to wake up in nowadays is kind of a dead zone for any children show until they change to 9:30 AM.
I really wish Super Sentai along with all the current Tokusatsu genre getting better with their shows and marketing.
I wish toei make super sentai kamen riders and metal heroes comics if the toys are bad selling why they don't try something new like comics with a deep stories and new characters
@@pasteurqhse9678 right even power rangers has comic
@@shodiqalibaqir6508 and it sucks
Yeah I would say the mecha toys could be a big factor. Whether it's unappealing designs (especially in combinations) or just how the toys are designed in general. Sentai mecha always have the articulation of a brick and combining just resorts to swapping out limbs. Recently I've been seeing a lot of these other mecha toys like Tobot V and Dragon Force and I feel like Sentai should try and take a page out of their books when it comes to their robot designs. Ryusoulger's mecha at least is trying to up it's play feature by have so many different ports that you can create far more combinations than the show probably could.
FireFury190 I agreed with your opinion, and if i may say, there isnt really a payoff after you collect all the mecha for quite some time, there are no huge ultra combination such as G12 anymore which is quite sad to be honest
I think the combination as you said is one of the reason that the sales of toys are falling
What about ultra beast force revevolution mecha design for animals theme
Personally for me, Sentai peaked when Gokaiger hit.
Gokaiger is the GOAT!
Then the glory is reclaimed if Ryusoulger rose back the ratings somehow.
Same Gokaiger is my favorite
I love the the shows especially Zyuohger but the toys lack more and more every year. Lupinranger they really botched it. The mega combo doesn’t even stay together, they showed that space ship formation on the show but you can’t recreate it with the toys, the toys themselves felt cheap and the electronic ones didn’t even have on/off switches.
Real shame that LuPat aka what i call Lupinranger vs Patoranger was a flop, yes it's not my favorite sentai season or series ever, but I actually liked it more than I thought I would've.
Sentai of the past while not all dark,did have consequences for their characters and regular people. Don't get me wrong,it's not at the level of Maskman which to me was the most mature sentai I had ever seen. It needs a balance. You need some blood,broken helmet damage,bad guys who are truly vicious but without over doing the japanese habit of random song and dance. Ever since zyuranger their has been random song and dance routines that don't fit. Megaranger/timeranger/ohranger/dairanger. All great balanced shows.
I'm happy that Don Brothers is still going. Sentai is not canceled yet.
Sentai is in the spot its "sister" series Pretty Cure was in years ago. After Heartcatch Pretty Cure, the franchise went into a slump due to poor decisions, something that didn't get fixed until Go! Princess Pretty Cure.
Wow......I don't know that?
Oh, yes - Suite Pretty Cure had to go "Lighter and Softer" due to the Sendai Earthquake, Smile was too much filter, Doki-Doki was too much plot plus the mishandling of a few characters and HappinessCharge had a romantic plot that overtook most of the second half of the series. Toei was so desperate to save the series that they threw the guy who was helming the series at that time out, ironically, over to Super Sentai so he didn't mess up Go! Princess.
@@AshuraH Doki Doki had too much plot? I must have missed that xD
The only good PC TV show I'm the beginning after its 3 first season.
@AshuraH Precure never was in risk of dying during the HeartCatch~HappinessCharge era, Suite did alright, but Smile and DokiDoki were a huge success in Japan.
Precure was in risk of dying two times during its history, one during Splash Star (which Yes! 5 saved with the new concept of 5 cures) and other during Yes! 5 GoGo (which the combination of Fresh+All Stars 1 came and saved again), after all that the franchise established itself and now is considered a household name... Even if some seasons like HappinessCharge really underperformed in ratings/toy sales, Precure wasn't at risk of dying like before.
I really don't want Sentai to be cancelled
Charley me too
If they're focusing to catch toy sales than rating, then it's almost 100% that it'll be cancelled.
I mean back to Power Rangers in space, they set to cancel the series by the end of the season hence why zordon was killed off and whole villain get purified. But because the high rating they got for the finale (and most of the fanbase dub in space finale was the best power rangers finale of all time) Saban decided to continued on to Lost Galaxy. They don't think about the toy sales, they botched up for the rating.
The difference between japan and america was japan pulls more to the toy sales while america more to the rating. And with hasbro taking the ownership of power rangers, bandai japan would obviously getting lower sales figure than before.
Another factor is that kids these days don't (really) buy toys anymore. If they do they more interest to lego or playdoh. Because all toy they played is just on their hand. They could just take their parents phone to search a game rather than buying it. Something that japan kind a hit and miss with it (Even lupat game for switch were very awkward for me)
But I do, sorry.
Imma keep it real with you *Lost In Sentai*
This is at least partially a symptom of Japan’s declining birth rate
Sentai desperately trying to wring 6 billion dollars out of the 12 children left in japan.
maybe if they didnt market to the dwindling child pool and maybe grew up the shows into the teenage bracket, and went after teens and young adults, they might have more success. instead of cheap action figures they can sell the higher priced merch.
Good catch. The sentais were more dark in the 80's, and I guess, it should be focused on that generation instead. They would bringing back great stories and simplified Mecha.
Great video. You definitely need more subs.
The decline of Sentai might have something do with almost every season after Kyoryuger being the Red Senshi show occasionally guest staring these guys the writers don’t care about and the fact that said only character focused on is usually an idiot.
They're trying to get that KR audience, where there's a single main rider who gets ridiculous amount of power ups, while it is unfeasible to give the same amount of powerups to all 5 rangers. Thus, the red ranger gets exponentially more focus and power ups.
I have said it once and I will say it a million more times: Super Sentai needs to change up its formula and for the love of god, STOP WITH THE CLUNKY MECHA.
If you look at Super Sentai from way back when in the 80's (for example), you'll see that the mecha are extremely original in their composition, design, and transformation. And I fully realize that SS is in its 40's but if you're finding that your designs are dropping in quality, either up the ante or stop producing them, OR just return to the roots of the mecha design. The way those OG mecha hid away their vehicle forms and became a full-on robot with no kibble was brilliant! Just look at Jetman! Such a brilliant design! Five jets come together to form a seamless and flawless robot that I can honestly say I could watch forever.
Now, as for the SS formula. They have to cut the bullshit with the role-calls and over-exaggerated physical actions. Nobody is into that, not even kids because when other shows aren't doing it, you begin to look at the show that you know and love (Super Sentai) and you begin to think, "Alright, what the fuck is going on here and what are they doing?" Happened to me with Power Rangers. The acting and sequences began to look absurdly stupid with every episode copping out and recycling the last round of events but with different villains.
I get that it needs to do well on a commercial level but you can really see how the repetition is screwing the whole show. Just make a really ball-ass set of mecha and uniforms with an awesome concept and the rest will write itself. [Insert the rest of OP's details here].
All I have to say is that times are changing and Super Sentai needs to change with them.
Not sure I can agree with the roll call thing. That's a big part of the franchise for one and the over the top head movements is present in Kamen Rider as well. Lots of in suit antics. Everything else though, I can kind of see.
"Cut the bullshit with the role-calls and over-exaggerated physical actions". Dude, just no.
This guy really said cut the roll calls huh?
Wait... you hear something?
Hmmm...
Oh I hear it! It's PreCure, Toei's now highest profiting franchise, laughing.
I think Super Sentai will be at its strongest on the brink of cancellation. Remember how Jetman ended up happening? That was made to be the final season of Super Sentai due to ratings decline and disinterest. Because it was made to be the final they put everything they had into it and it ultimately became so good and so critically and commercially successful that it single-handedly saved the franchise and gave us years and years of more Sentai. Let them have this downfall, it’ll be the kick they need to bring out their A-Game to keep the franchise alive.
If u don't like "clunky mecha" why bother watching it? After all, mechas are far more better than your power rangers movie "megazord". XD
I'm really surprised cuberangers did better than Ninninger. My group loved Ninninger and it's the only Japanese Sentai mech I own. I even bought the burger-phone!
Personally I feel Zyuohger had better cast than Ninninger was one of the factor.
@@arditeider2812 I really liked the idea for the show, and the main villain designs were cool, but the show never grabbed us. We had a lot of fun with Ninninger, though. Grandpa was great, we loved that there's just a guy in the woods building mecha, and Lion Ha-Oh was a blast. I'm sad I didn't get the giant mech for my slightly less giant mech to sit inside.
@@arditeider2812 because Zyuohger took a more pratical approach to their toys
Or it attracted Furries
This was extremely informational and absolutely needed. It was kinda jarring, especially for me, when everyone started pointing the finger that sentai was “on its last legs” and even more so pointing directly at my favorite season LuPat. It felt like people were just kinda saying that without know how other then “people in Japan just don’t like it anymore.” This really put the situation in a better light for me and I’m glad to have found it. Keep up the great work!
I was like: "Dinosaurs again? That's what he fourth dinosaur themed sentai?" Are they running out of ideas?
Because Dino is popular theme
Just look at what the haitus did for Kamen Rider, Sentai could definitely use a break. Maybe do something big for the 45th then come back on year 50
model kits. Thats how I support the show
Great video! In just 5 minutes you've explained everything succinctly and perfectly, nicely done man
I believe that kyuranger is one of a kind
-1st constellation themed
-original 9 members
I wouldn't mind if Super Sentai took a break for a few years. Maybe not as long as Kamen Rider's break between Black RX and Kuuga, but just long enough to get the juices flowing again.
Maybe not break, but alow down. Not every year but every2 years new series
If Ryusoulger does well, next year's Sentai is dinosaurs again.
Freak Zeke You think they’ll add a Kung Fu theme to it?
@@AndrewHager02 Everybody does love Kung-Fu fighting.
No where probably get a go-onger after Ryusoulger
Freak Zeke God I really don’t want dinos to be the Green Hill Zone or Kanto of Super Sentai.
Next season after Ryusoulger will be Olympic-themed Sentai because of Tokyo's 2020 Summer Olympic. Bamco will not miss the chance of getting a lot of PROFITS from the Olympic event in their country!
my main reason as to why sentai is doing bad is simple, the viewer base needs to be on a streaming platform. TV is becoming very irrelevent, while streaming is growing. If they put sentai and kamen rider on a streaming platform like for example netflix. It would do really well.
This I agree with.
Other people saying they should make Super Sentai more serious have no idea what they’re talking about.
This franchise has been rised again after making solid seasons with interesting sense of humor since Kiramager.
Especially Donbrothers became a cult season thanks to having more ordinary characters and sense of humor.
Dude, really well made video! Someone's definitely done their research :) here's hoping this year's sentai does well. I'd hate to see Super Sentai disappear but like you say a break to do some market research may not be the worst idea!! Cheers dude, subscribed!
I'm a huge Super Sentai fan, and I'm shocked that it is supposedly not doing as well as the producers would like. I get very excited whenever a new series is announced.
There's several dino-themed teams, police, ninja teams that keep coming back. I have never seen a rock group theme thus far.
It’s because there is no way in hell that would work
Sentai shows of the 80's, 90's and 2000's were epic. Shows like Kakuranger were phenomenal. The story, plots, and characters were amazing. You don't get Sentail like that today. Which sucks.
Great video!!
4 years later and I came across this video, it turned out to be a good call making Ryusoulger a dinosaur theme, idk about earning and stuff but I can definitely see how they're stepping up the game from Ryusoulger onward, improvement on story, character, humor, action, and quality-wise was noticeable compared to LupinPat, also Kiramager manage to thrive in the middle of 2020 pandemic is really impressive, kudos to Komiya Rio for battling Covid himself mid-season, he's back like a champ.
great analysis btw, may I know where you find these information about earnings?
This didn't age well, zenkaiger is killing it
I’m no Sentai fan, even though I really like GoBusters and I’m super happy it got a Power Rangers adaption. But if I had to change Sentai, I would just start by doing other, better themes instead of using ones that won’t work for PR or rehashing old ones. While I think Ryusoulger look really cool aesthetically, I think people would be more happier if we got a Dragon themed Sentai or maybe do something different like a bird or flying type of Sentai. Like the one from the 90s I think it was called Jetman.
They're kinda on the edge right now up to the point of reaching cancellation that is probably the main reason they changed their pick from Dragon to the most popular Dinosaur-themed sentai so we can't really blamed them.
But who knows we probably get Dragon-themed next year if Ryuusoulger managed to make up for the lost.
@@BlossomPathOnStage15 nah it'll probably or most likely be sports themed next year because of the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo
What I notice about the toyline is there seems like a pattern since around Gokaiger, collectibles that separated from mechs are only happen in odd years; Gokaiger, Kyoryuger, Ninninger, Kyuranger, and now Ryusoulger.
In the even years, they always do either mechs double as collectibles (ToQger, LuPat), or just do mechs that not compatible with roleplay toys (Go-Busters, Zyuohger). I can see this hurt the sales with some exceptions like you already mentioned; Ninninger is much lower than ToQger despite having both collectibles and mechs as separated items.
Is it because Kamen Rider is their main brand so Sentai need to be less budget at some years?
Makes me wonder if Sentai 2020 happens, will it do the usual odd years route again?
Kamen Rider and Super Sentai operate pretty independently of each other, so there's no real draining of a budget from one show. I think they'll just go with whatever works if Ryusoulger is a success, they're at the point where they can't really experiment too much anymore.
@@LostInTokusatsu especially now that they stopped with the Taisen movies and crossover episodes.
They should have more "concept exchange" with the toys tho: the enginesoul/gashat and gaburyugun-sword/steamgun-blade worked well; something like Lockseed, with a collectible-but-you-really-only-need-one, or a missionmemory funzionality for the next tec based team could really work
I mean taking a break went well for Kamen Rider, maybe Super Sentai taking a break still do the same
A majority of these comments say they should make the modern sentai shows more serious, but guys, Super Sentai was never intended to be a really serious show in the first place. It’s meant to be a show aimed for a younger audience and the dark elements that Toei added are for the adults so that way families can watch them together. I mean, for crying out loud, Goranger faced monsters with silly themes such as a cowshoe, a windmill, a pineapple, ice skates, and baseball. And they always destroy them by throwing a ball at each other.
Seems they learned their lesson with mechs. DonBrothers seems to be getting articulation.
nice :)
Great video. I really enjoyed it. :D
Maybe they can learn from what Saban and Hasbro have been doing with Power Rangers recently and have alternative forms of Sentai aimed at their older fans specifically. Power Rangers has a comic series and a new video game clearly aimed at people who grew up with Power Rangers rather than focusing on the typical target audience and it's doing really well for the Power Ranger series. Not just cause they are reeling old fans back in but aiming at an older audience is usually, funny enough, more tempting for younger audiences to be more interested in it too. If Sentai does that, it could work the same for them as well.
Interesting video dude
You nailed it man. I've been a fan and watched super sentai all of my life and after Toqger, starting from the theme songs, everything has gone downhill.
I didn't know things were that bad.
Now I'm fearful for sentai because Ryusouger is the least excited I've ever been for a new season.
I know kids are the audience but it just looks like silver Kyoryuger to me.
People are telling us about cancellation since 2012 when Go-Busters underperformed.. I don’t think they will cancel it anytime soon
What Sentai's toys lack is the Mecha's articulation. While other machines like Gundams are getting better and better at articulation, Sentai's machines are still very bad at it. After buying a Sentai toy, all we can do is put it on the shelf, while with other robots, we play with different poses, someone even make videos of toys fighting each other. Sentai should focus on their fight uniforms and their Mecha designs and articulation, after that, Sentai toys can sell more.
Now it makes so much sense. Toei is playing it safe. Their last real hit was Kyoryuger. Which is why this latest sentai seem to borrow so many elements from that season. In a nutshell, they will probably put sentai on hiatus after the big 50th Anniversary season.
When I was little I would always watch many different season with the same name.I would always find them fun and interesting to watch a team of teens wearing spandex,giant robots fighting giant monsters,and a theme that would always stand out.However if you're audience are getting tired of seeing the same thing over again then what's the point of watching.this series has gone on for a long time it's only fair to let it rest.
Looks like Haim Saban found a sucker in Hasbro.
I’ve always felt that Alipay’s biggest weakness WAS its VS theme. Kids will always gravitate to specific team in a versus show or anything. And if you want to refute this, don’t forget that the Lupinrangers got a bit of ground vehicles near the end of the show. That should be a sign of trying to sell the toys of the more popular team.
So, if Sentai does get the plug pulled...would this mean PR will have to either adapt past seasons, or make their own footage and suits from scratch?
Well if Ryusoulger is the last one for a while, Power Rangers still has something like ten years of available footage if they decide to do the remaining shows with each season lasting two years. I totally think Sentai would be revived within that amount of time if it did go away.
I also think that part of his fall in popularity has to do with the design of the zords. Until magiranger the zords had clean, elegant, even organic designs, but from then on all the zords started to look like playmobil toys, they are painful to see ...
If Sentai gets cancelled, what happens to Power rangers. I mean, they can still draw from the seasons they have yet to adapt for at least a decade, but reusing decade old footage is going to be obvious at some point.
That's if they decide to use decade old footage. It's been shown that when Localizing Sentai modern footage has been made, to a certain extent but still made. They would most likely have to remake/use original footage or perhaps even creating their own suits but to be honest this is very unlikely.
I wonder if Power Rangers becomes wholly americanised by that point? Is it thanks to Hasbro and Toei parting ways?
Keep up the good work on covering Super Sentai. You made alot of great points about sentai not doing so well ever since Gokaiger ended.
Kyoryuger (14.4 billion yen) actually made more than Gokaiger (13.7 billion yen.) ToQger also didn't do all that bad (12.2 billion yen) in comparison to any of it's successors which failed to even break past 10 billion (Ninninger - 7.9 Billion Yen
Zyuohger - 8 Billion Yen
Kyuranger - 9.3 Billion Yen)
@@patrickangelobalasa well that because Dino theme is popular
if super sentai dies then the hasbro team will have to design and write new original seasons and suits if they don’t wanna use footage
Once again I understand the sentai is made for selling toys but FOCUS on the story and make it GOOD and people will buy the toys.
The last great Sentai was kyoryuger. It was fun the team was great but by far the best sentai was and still is shinkenger. Every one of those team members was terrific and it was so good to see a red leader who wasn’t playing for laughs like so many of them.
Chris-G Re: Kyoryuger- a part of me would agree while the rest pretty much cite it as the fixed point of why Sentai installments after it (barring both Zyuohger and Lupin/Pat since both had the same lead writer who also co wrote for Akibaranger): Shonen Red syndrome. While Daigo and his season's writer (Riko Sanjou of Beet the Vandel Buster and KRs Double, Fourze, & Drive fame) weren't 100% responsible, they were pretty much severely misconstrued by all three parties (i.e. Toei, Bandai, and TVAsahi) far as what would make a show a hit aside from the robos
Kyoryuger is my favorite. Even though it focused pretty hard on King, the battles and exhibition were all top notch. In contrast, I was really disappointed with Dino Charge. They did not do Kyoryuger justice with that one.
@@danielwilson7193 I think Kyoryuger blows. You say that King gets too much focus is a minor thing but no its major because it takes up half of the series and completely overshadows every character leading to little to no more development at all. Not to mention how the finale is embarrassingly bad that it felt more like a parody than an actual finale. I mean the romance at the end just comes out of nowhere I mean it's hinted but it was never built up at all and we barely saw King and pinky (I barely remember her name because of how poorly her character is treated) spend any time together.
@@ninja0329 I didn't say it was a minor thing. In fact, I agree that the focus on King was a bit much. But the show still looked damn good.
@@danielwilson7193 I mean you say it like a minor thing but great action can only hold my attention if there actually was something good driving force to make it worthwhile and it wasn't. Kamen Rider Wizard was another series that had good fight scenes but the whole story as a whole is really bland.
I'm 32 y/o and the last sentai I watched was Gokaiger and from their I lost track, I did not know that the Sentai series went down this far. I remember watching classic sentais like Maskman, Jetman, Fiveman, and the others, those shows were really scary to some level that i had nightmares but i still liked the storyline especially in Hikari Sentai Maskman. I hope they can revive that era where it has the story that can catch the hearts of teenagers and adults like us who were born in the 80s
It's sad to hear this. I actually really enjoyed both ToQger and Kyuuranger.
I think the fact that television is in decline is also contributing factor. The advent of streaming services like Netflix means that television today isn't that much influential as it was back in the Sentai's heyday. Toei needs to change with the times and realize that television is not a big deal anymore.
Speaking of Sentai ratings - ever since Shinkenger rating were going down with each season performing worse than the last. And I'd like to point out that ToQger was poor over the toop goofy series ala GoOnger with the villains' designs being the only redeeming quality. The rangers were as bland as you can get and the main baddie wasn't particularly good. Same story with Zyuohger. Kyuranger and Lupin vs Pat introduced interesting concepts, but probably didn't work out for Toei and Bandai-Namco. And now Sentai's back with dinosaurs which looks more like Kyoryuger knock-off from Southeast Asia given the main color scheme and zords.
As for Power Rangers - I think if Beast Morphers performs below the expectations set by Hasbro in the next 2 years, they'll just cancel the series once the Nickelodeon deal ends and instead focus on the rumoured Power Ranger movie sequels given that they were starting talks with Paramount for potential sequel.
I don’t know....toqger does have some redeeming qualities. I actually like the drama between Zett and miss gritta's family. Plus Zett was the only villain successfully stealing the ranger's morpher allowing him to transform into the orange ranger. I have yet to see any other villain do that. I'll give credit where credit is due and Toqger did the villain characters right to a degree.
News: All the power rangers seasons are moving out of Netflix into a different site.
No way. This can’t be happening. I didn’t knew that the Sentai series were in a bad shape :(
Unfortunately, one of the seasons had already disappointed me.
Smaller cast, more gadgets and team weapons. Especially if the toys are actually given more play and significance.
Yeah I totally agree having toys that feel more vital to the story would definitely help. I remember Kabuto had a toy (the Mizer) that literally only appeared one time and there was no real explanation as to where it came from.
More humanized villains, too.
@@austinreed7343 Do you mean villains with human forms or villains that are more human in how they act and think?
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Both. Moreso the former.
@@austinreed7343 I could see that helping. The ice guy from LuPat sure seemed neat, but he was in the show so little.
My childhood TV show. I remember that, when the GOKAIGER VS GOSEIGER movie came out in 2011, I bet you that I was just 4 years old by that time. I used to love those two Sentai groups, as well as Shinkenger since they are the "Golden Age", from what I see.
I feel a bit let down that they tried so hard to keep the series going. I really hope they succeed in that, because I don't wanna lost another part of my childhood again
I only got into Sentai recently, starting with Kyuranger, and am only now learning about all this. Honestly what you said about taking a break to do research then come back stronger I think would definitely help them. It hurts that Lupin vs Pat didn’t do as well as I really love that series, it’s my favorite Sentai so far, had some good characters and was overall enjoyable to watch. It has so much charm and style that no Sentai I’ve seen so far has. I even bought the Vs Changer and all of the Lupin Kaiser. I think one thing that would help, which Kyuranger and Lupin I thought would help but I guess not, is use more original ideas for series. Example, I was actually really wanting a medieval aesthetic for a Sentai team, the only similar one I can think of is Magiranger, and then when it was shown it would be half dinosaur I was a little disappointed. I can see why they did it now but I wish they would’ve held back the knight idea for a later series, and again do some more original concepts.
Snoopy describing Sentai. I was waiting for him to fall asleep but instead I did.
That's exactly what happens when you try to take something aimed at adults and try to tailor it towards kids and *ONLY* kids. Super Sentai used to be dark & edgy as all get-out in most of the early seasons, but now look at it. It's the same issue with the new Power Rangers seasons, where the writers all just do away with the mature writing and story tone that the series has been using since In Space all the way to RPM, in favor of going back to the silly and wackiness of the Mighty Morphin' era. Which REALLY damaged the series' credibility. Some companies out there just don't want to accept that not everything can always be SOLELY for kids.
But PR has always been a fucking Kids Show.. I hate when those 20/30 somethings want a KIDS show to be adult like lmao Watch Arrow/The Flash or whatever But this show is for kids
Lol Ryuusouger should have been about Dragons or Mythical creatures
They also need to expand more to the western market. Imagine having most seasons on Netflix!!! They could boost their numbers!! Also, sell the toys to us too!! And bring back more old toys!!!!
How about a video on how power Rangers could go on if dental stopped in Japan?
There's always Kamen Rider (even if There is no god or Buddha), but as we saw, it would be a more mature show. Sure, we have real proof that the more recent "rider Vs rider priority" mentality of the more recent show could very well work, but as Jay here said, There is a reason why There aren't any real toku show made in the Last decade and a half outside the asia\oceania areas
@Jay Morales In present day, do they really use that much footage that already exists from Sentai? And with Beast Morphers, Hasbro went all in and had suits rebuilt from Go-Busters for reuse. Yeah the franchise would be done I think, but not as instantly as it might sound?
Maybe if Super sentai gets cancelled , Hasbro could keep going until LupinxPat and then maybe go the animated route from there ?
Cameron Kelly Honestly I think the animated route could work quite well. They could do new ranger teams or reboot the MMPR like they've done in the comics.
@@DaemonRayge Toei isn't the best at animation look at pre cures first season and now there's a huge dropped in quality so there is a definite chance Sentai would dropped in quality too.
Plus making tokusatsu into animation is pretty difficult gridman got lucky as it have trigger.
Zenkaiger:I did it I saved us
I'm surprised Kyuranger did those numbers, its my 2nd fave Sentai of all time [after Jetman] and was the boot up the ass Sentai needed IMO
I think did not as well because of the low performance of Ninninger and Zyuohger. So people were just uninterested.
The one-note, emotionless delivery of this is what makes it. Lmao. Love it.
I think Super Sentai should take a break since they been doing for over 40 years wonder when they'll eventually burned out, if that ever happen maybe they should try give the writings to someone else preferably someone who can wrote a story for once. Each episode of Sentai show has slowly become nothing then one big commercial they might as well slap a sign that said "BUY THIS", and if Ryusoulger got buried to the ground then I'm ready to take a break from today's Super Sentai
Oh well at least I have Kamen Rider, as years went by the show had evolved and became more innovative
They took a break in 78
It's hard to think a series that is 40 years may be at risk of ending
making it good generates succes if no more ideas under preforms boring then is lost
I look forward to you doing an analysis on the Ultraman franchise as well :D
Storytelling. That’s a main part. I look at old school sentai vs modern because clearly there is a disconnect.
This makes me sad because... apart from Kyoryuger, I've loved every sentai show...
But I guess it's all about the toy sales, and just getting a hold of Sentai toys outside of Japan is a pain.
Right now I'm working on buying what I can of the LupinRanger vs Patranger mecha set.
Honestly, I don't know how to fix it myself. I mean after growing up in the 90's and the two things that saved Sentai in the 90's namely Jetman and Megaranger and they did it again the Kyuranger and Lupinranger vs Patoranger didn't help then I don't know how to help it at this point in time. I mean they also now have a new head writer but I just don't know.
All that they have to do to fix the issue is to slowly diverge the show for the appropriate audience again.
Thank you for the informative video. I don't know much about Sentai, being a Power Ranger fan. But I do hear stuff like Go-Busters and other sentai flopping.
Me: *saw the title
"Can't agree more!"
*hit like instantly
When they announced Toqger everyone was excited expecting something similar to Kamen Rider Den-O. Unfortunately, what we received was a crapfest. Ninninger and Zyuohger were horrible follow ups. After Go-Onger aired we had Shinkenger to fix it.
It would be cool if you could do a deeper, longer analysis of this topic. It'd be very interesting.
Maybe do a show that's semi-serious like Timeranger maybe? If Kid-friendly isn't cutting it, doesn't hurt to re-visit a Timeranger like plot.
There’s probably another factor that caused Sentai’s downfall. During Go-Busters, ToQger, and Nininger, Japan was in a bit of a recession. Gokaiger was running during the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake, and after that, Japan and its people were paying in more to rebuild the country. The next year, Japan hit a recession brought on by the debt of the reconstruction, and the world economy also falling apart not long before. People didn’t have the money to go out and buy a ton of toys for their kids, and after Shinkenger, the business model shifted to “Get ALL the things.” It worked for Kamen Rider W and OOO, but that’s for one hero (and an anti-hero or support member). You need a ton of new things if you’re going to collect for a Sentai. So ToQger comes along, and it is widely accepted...but the toys are big, and you need to get all the trains to get the full use out of the different henshin devices and weapons. Then the batteries with Kyoryuger. Then there was the pixel block mix and match motif of Nininger, which didn’t work at all. Then... 12 heroes. And then two separate teams. That’s just too many toys in a confusing economic landscape.
To top it off, the consumption tax has increased to 8%, and will be increased to 10% soon. The show can’t support itself, not because the toys aren’t good enough to sell, but they aren’t able to sell them to the audience that wants them, simply because the economy is crawling back from a major disaster and economic collapse. It’s affecting Kamen Rider, too, which hasn’t been selling much in the way of toys, either. To add even more difficulty to selling toys to children... there aren’t as many children. Japan’s birthrate has taken a nose dive. It’s affecting all businesses, not just the toy industry. Hopefully, with Japan’s economy coming back, a dinosaur theme, and a good marketing team, they can pull it back. However, I think the hole that was left is going to make it very difficult going forward.
Sentai need to spice up their group more, by no means that I say adding more group member or such but by adding more clash inbetween member, hell I wanted to see a final fight inbetween Red ranger and Blue ranger just because they have different ideology, or a 40 episodes build up arc about how each member struggled about their problem and finally came together like Kamen rider build did.
You’re right on about the mecha. Plain and simple, some of their recent mecha designs have fallen short of the rich artistic history of the brand.
The villains, too.
Let’s also talk about the Made in China moniker for meh quality toys. Power rangers had it considerably worse with Bandai America from 2003 up until the late 2010’s. However, Hasbro rescued it with somehow better quality toys that are made in Vietnam.
So fun question what would take with regards to Sentai now from this from 4 years ago, especially your take on DonBrothers booming?
Ryusoulger preformed greatly and in all honesty i think Kiramager has been doing well to
@Gokai change Grid
Kiramager did bring more humanlike villains back, but I suppose it’s too late.