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the only part i dont like is the leather real or fake i just dont like it i use gloves now but i wish it was in alcantara. i also got the cs over the rs wheel because i just not a fan of all the colors.
This setup looks hard to beat value for money wise. The guys at Moza seem to be on to the start of something really great here. Competition in the market is always a good thing for us consumers. Thanks for another great in-depth review Will!
They just need to get console support going. I use PC and PlayStation so im stuck with fanatec until then, love what moza are doing in every other aspect though
I really don't get why simracers aren't all only on PC! My last console was the ps4 and I'm not planning to get any other ever since I have a computer wich is more expensive to buy but I'll say is cheaper on the long run for 2 reasons: Game prices are much better Pc can be used for many other things So for me PC has way more sense than a playstattion/xbox. Also you can always start with a kind of a minimum specs and going upgrading the pc.
Yeah. We all know PC master race is a thing. You know some folks just can't afford a proper PC rig + descent sim set-up. Hey we do what we can with what we got for what we want. Amirite?
@@pasteghost428 With 1000€ you can get a computer for simracing. And as I said games are cheaper and with a PC you can work, study etc.. That's also the great thing of pc, you can build one for your needs/budget.
@@JP-xd6fm oh yeah, preaching to the choir. I wholeheartedly recommend anyone who can't afford a quality PC setup, to buy one piece at a time whatever you can spend each time and build it yourself. It's easier than ever thanks to improvements in the hardware. That said, even that can be difficult to manage for people living at the poverty level. Then there's those underage guys and gals who have to convince parents to shell out a large chunk of change all at once. Maybe they would only buy that console 1 year. Then next year, get them to buy wheel and pedals
@@pasteghost428 Dude if you're at poverty level you shouldn't buy a PC or a console. And if you're a kid younger than the legal age for work and get a salary then you should study instead of gaming. A fricking console cost 500€ if you find one and, is not better to save up a little and get a PC?, even if it takes a year?, yes imo, because I say again you can work with a pc, you can make excel sheets, etc.. is just better. To not talk about the people that spends a lot of money in their cellphone, I rather save that money and have a normal phone and put it into the build of the PC.
Please do a review on CAMMUS racing gear. Their 15nm wheelbase for 500$ and full 15nm base + wheel + 3 loadcell pedals bundle for 800$ seems amazing. It looks to me like it's the better alternative to Moza since I don't mind the bad buttons on the wheel, but I'll be waiting for your review on it.
Surely it is very easy to implement a USB connection in these MOZA wheels for users of other bases, but I think that taking into account that there are waiting times due to lack of stock, they have been very intelligent in maintaining that stock for users of the brand. If these steering wheels could be used with any base, there would be a lack of stock for users or buyers of MOZA bases, which would be counterproductive for the brand.
To save even more money, i've purchased the r9, gktech steering wheel and kyostar ebay quick release. I won't need buttons for drifting, though I would love the CS down the track. Looks amazing 👏
Thanks for the review. Excellent as always. If Moza was compatible with PS I would definitely be look at it if/when I upgrade to DD. Maybe that'll change in the future.
You know, I'm looking at my first DD and Fana's unwillingness to update their product line is truthfully steering away a customer. I love how complete their ecosystem is, but QR2 being an e ample, they drag their heels on any innovation and the competition (such as Moza) has caught up and surpassed them _at a lower price_.
Moza is the Go👍 , fanatec is just not as good 😑 😒, waited 4months for the csl Dd order, then the pin broke after 6months on me🤦. Definitely going to purchase Moza, the realese system mechanics is so much easier with me not panicking that the pin may broke.
There are SO many options on the market right now and Thrustmaster is radio silent. I reached out to them to ask if their sparco r383 rally wheel would be compatible with their new wheelbase, and they confirmed it would, which is why I am holding out to see what they come out with.
Offering the button box only is exactly what I'd like to see MOZA do on that CS wheel rim. The R9 v1 owners got left behind on the Formula rim conversion, the v1 base being incompatible with the ES wheel which is used as the donor button box for the v2 conversion. Acelith offers an F1 style wheel frame for R9 v1 and v2 owners interested in converting using the original CS button box.
Been watching your vids for months now and just realized I wasn’t subscribed 😬 FIXED! Keep up the good work you guys are absolutely amazing and bringing top tier content!!!!
I agree that they should look into selling the button box as a standalone module too because I personally don’t like the wheel rim. I think something like a Turn Racing R305 or a similar-shaped wheel would be a great match for this hub.
I just bought one of these along with one of their formula wheels and an r9 base. I'm not bothered about having less functionality in terms of buttons because I'd use a wheel rim like that for cars that don't need all the fancy buttons. I also bought the formula wheel so I would have all that functionality for cars that do use all the fancy buttons. Though I suppose there must be loads of people that would want to save some money by getting just the one more expensive wheel rim with all the functionality I'm wondering if the vibration from the shifters is happening because of resonant frequency. It'll be interesting to use
I got this setup recently and I've been super impressed. The one thing I might want to change is to add a GT-style rim but when I asked Moza they didn't recommend replacing the round rim. Was actually looking at the Turn Racing rim that you showed in this video, does it definitely have enough room for the buttons? Would love to see.
amazing video! Does there any other difference between R9 and R16 apart from the force feedback power? really struggle to make the call between those two.
It's nice but I hate it when any racing wheel (from fanatec, moza...) has a lack in buttons like here. It's not that hard to make more buttons. Like for example the Moza R5 wheel has a nice amount of buttons.
Hey Will, so it looks relatively straight forward to just undo the screw and mount another rim to the bottom box/shifters. That would really draw me to this more then anything.
Are you going to review their entry level pedals as well? I am seriously considering getting the whole set from Moza and from the info I gathered so far, I should really pay a close attention to quality of pedals…
i literally just bought a decent running car at this price they really need to work on getting the prices of wheels down though. Like how is it i can get a controller for 70 bucks but a steering wheel is at least 200+ for a decent one. I realize thoug that its gonna cost more than your avg controller but 1000 bucks for a wheel seems wild when you can get an r9 bundle for that.
I NEED HELP GUYS!!!! Random question from a video i saw that you made about Custom Resolution Utility, will CRU work with triple 43inch ultrawide 4k TVs, im having an absolute nightmare, my left mirror is in front of me and my right mirror behind me, everything looks weird and to large!
I have played hours on my desk with no issues i do have a heavy sturdy desk with a printer and a lot of stuff in the desk the clamp is just amazing how it works with the size and weight of the wheel and base and so easy to remove. So far i am unable to get the pedals seen in Eurotruck 2 and American Truck simulators tried G923 Mode ect but then Logitech's advised setting they show don't mention pedal settings or game support for them on PC i don't own any Console.
@@boostedmedia That is very sad to hear because they may have just lost a sale over 5% if that is the case. I sent them an email but if I can't get that bit off I think I will just go with another option. The 5% really helps with the shipping cost.
I payed 400 USD for this wheel alone, I don't think it would be completely unreasonable to expect real leather, lol. Not that I really care, just want my sim setup to fucking be in stock so they can ship it.
I have an R9 with the CS Wheel and the FSR wheel. Generallly I love the setup, but I am having problems with the CS wheel shifter paddles not registering shifts. Also the wheel disconnects from base. Not sure if it's an issue with the bluetooth connection. FSR wheel tends to be more reliable, but do exhibit mis-shifts and disconnects as well. Anyone else having issues?
Does it matter what wheel you use? Aside from the pleasing aesthetics of having a wheel that matches what the real racers use, does it really matter if, for example, you use a normal wheel for Formula racing? If so, why? So many reviews of products without any information on what really matters. Many of us will only be prepared to buy one expensive wheel, so this stuff matters
My intermediate racer take: 320mm wheels are good for having nice fine-grained control in many classes like GT3 but in open-wheelers you often make quicker, jerkier movements (more so the closer you get to F1 cars). A smaller, lighter wheel at 285-300mm is easier to turn left and right more quickly. 300mm is what many people would consider the sweet spot for covering the biggest range of cars. If you meant the shape of the wheel, no, driving formula with a round wheel won't be an issue. Maybe just that it will cover a bit of your dashboard if you're sitting low.
On the other hand, using a formula wheel for drifting or rally will be a bit harder. That's why for the most part a round wheel is preferred if you're doing multiple driving disciplines, and like Exci says, 300mm is the sweet spot between the 280mm of most formula and prototype rims, and the 320mm of others.
This is just a message to let you know the MOZA Racing is a total nightmare if you have any issues with their products. I bought an R9 base and a Formula one wheel and both of these products came with an important number of issues. After weeks of talking to their support, which it is deplorable, I'm probably force to re-start the dispute with the help of my bank in order to get part of the money they want to keep. You really don't want to deal with people like this. They are just doing whatever the want and deciding what to pay me back. I'm looking for the possibility of putting a legal complaint agains this company. Will be talking to my bank and will be looking to my rights on this situation to make sure I do what I can to get the full reimbursement of my initial order which they informed me is not going to be the case. So please, in order to save you from getting into this hell, stay away from this company. If anyone wants to get more details or even have a call with me I will be more than happy to explain the full story I'm going through with this organization.
Good to know and thanks for sharing. A lot of people are reluctant to share bad experiences like this but it’s important for people get get a balanced view.
Thanks for watching! Remember if you're after some Moza gear, get 5% off with voucher code "BOOSTED"! Hit up boostedmedia.net for more discounts on other brands :)
Thanks Will, used the code after watching your previous videos to get my GS + R9 and really happy with them so far.
Used your code for a big discount on the r9 base, wheel and gtelite cockpit from Pagnian Imports. Thanks!
Code is now dead sadly, at least on the Moza website.
the only part i dont like is the leather real or fake i just dont like it i use gloves now but i wish it was in alcantara. i also got the cs over the rs wheel because i just not a fan of all the colors.
This setup looks hard to beat value for money wise. The guys at Moza seem to be on to the start of something really great here. Competition in the market is always a good thing for us consumers. Thanks for another great in-depth review Will!
I'm all in on this as my first DD and I'm so happy with the choice.
@@yolosubmarine just got mine yesterday i waited so now i got the v2 of the r9 with this wheel love it coming from a t300
They just need to get console support going. I use PC and PlayStation so im stuck with fanatec until then, love what moza are doing in every other aspect though
I really don't get why simracers aren't all only on PC!
My last console was the ps4 and I'm not planning to get any other ever since I have a computer wich is more expensive to buy but I'll say is cheaper on the long run for 2 reasons:
Game prices are much better
Pc can be used for many other things
So for me PC has way more sense than a playstattion/xbox.
Also you can always start with a kind of a minimum specs and going upgrading the pc.
Yeah. We all know PC master race is a thing. You know some folks just can't afford a proper PC rig + descent sim set-up. Hey we do what we can with what we got for what we want. Amirite?
@@pasteghost428 With 1000€ you can get a computer for simracing. And as I said games are cheaper and with a PC you can work, study etc..
That's also the great thing of pc, you can build one for your needs/budget.
@@JP-xd6fm oh yeah, preaching to the choir. I wholeheartedly recommend anyone who can't afford a quality PC setup, to buy one piece at a time whatever you can spend each time and build it yourself. It's easier than ever thanks to improvements in the hardware. That said, even that can be difficult to manage for people living at the poverty level. Then there's those underage guys and gals who have to convince parents to shell out a large chunk of change all at once. Maybe they would only buy that console 1 year. Then next year, get them to buy wheel and pedals
@@pasteghost428 Dude if you're at poverty level you shouldn't buy a PC or a console.
And if you're a kid younger than the legal age for work and get a salary then you should study instead of gaming.
A fricking console cost 500€ if you find one and, is not better to save up a little and get a PC?, even if it takes a year?, yes imo, because I say again you can work with a pc, you can make excel sheets, etc.. is just better.
To not talk about the people that spends a lot of money in their cellphone, I rather save that money and have a normal phone and put it into the build of the PC.
Please do a review on CAMMUS racing gear. Their 15nm wheelbase for 500$ and full 15nm base + wheel + 3 loadcell pedals bundle for 800$ seems amazing.
It looks to me like it's the better alternative to Moza since I don't mind the bad buttons on the wheel, but I'll be waiting for your review on it.
Mine is arriving today and after watching this, I can't wait. I feel like I've got a chuffing bargain honestly.
I’m so glad you disassembled the button box. It’s pretty easy to create a 3rd party gt style rim for use with this
Surely it is very easy to implement a USB connection in these MOZA wheels for users of other bases, but I think that taking into account that there are waiting times due to lack of stock, they have been very intelligent in maintaining that stock for users of the brand. If these steering wheels could be used with any base, there would be a lack of stock for users or buyers of MOZA bases, which would be counterproductive for the brand.
To save even more money, i've purchased the r9, gktech steering wheel and kyostar ebay quick release.
I won't need buttons for drifting, though I would love the CS down the track. Looks amazing 👏
I would have bought their pedals too if shipping wasn't so expensive.
Thanks for the review. Excellent as always. If Moza was compatible with PS I would definitely be look at it if/when I upgrade to DD. Maybe that'll change in the future.
Moza really makin moves. Good for them. If only fana would do the same and remain on top. Things could get interesting in the future
You know, I'm looking at my first DD and Fana's unwillingness to update their product line is truthfully steering away a customer. I love how complete their ecosystem is, but QR2 being an e ample, they drag their heels on any innovation and the competition (such as Moza) has caught up and surpassed them _at a lower price_.
Moza is the Go👍 , fanatec is just not as good 😑 😒, waited 4months for the csl Dd order, then the pin broke after 6months on me🤦. Definitely going to purchase Moza, the realese system mechanics is so much easier with me not panicking that the pin may broke.
Just a shame they haven't added console support which is what gives fanatec a bit more of an edge and a larger slice of the market
There are SO many options on the market right now and Thrustmaster is radio silent. I reached out to them to ask if their sparco r383 rally wheel would be compatible with their new wheelbase, and they confirmed it would, which is why I am holding out to see what they come out with.
What a great wheel!! Moza are doing so well
Offering the button box only is exactly what I'd like to see MOZA do on that CS wheel rim.
The R9 v1 owners got left behind on the Formula rim conversion, the v1 base being incompatible with the ES wheel which is used as the donor button box for the v2 conversion.
Acelith offers an F1 style wheel frame for R9 v1 and v2 owners interested in converting using the original CS button box.
Can't wait for the review on the srp pedals vs the csl load cell
Great Video, I learned a lot. You did a good job tell us all the points about the wheel. Thank You!
0:00 hey guys wheel here
Moza just need console compatibility, maybe Drivehub compatibility somehow?
yes drivehub,ive seen Moza rep's saying to use it for consoles.
There is an adapter called "ras1ution 2" that works with it and many other brands, but it seems to be sold out for now.
Been watching your vids for months now and just realized I wasn’t subscribed 😬 FIXED! Keep up the good work you guys are absolutely amazing and bringing top tier content!!!!
I agree that they should look into selling the button box as a standalone module too because I personally don’t like the wheel rim. I think something like a Turn Racing R305 or a similar-shaped wheel would be a great match for this hub.
In a year, when I will upgrade to a DD, hopefully there will be more DD-systems that support Console, especially Ps5. Great video as always!
I've seen some videos showing how to get moza to work on ps5
I just bought one of these along with one of their formula wheels and an r9 base.
I'm not bothered about having less functionality in terms of buttons because I'd use a wheel rim like that for cars that don't need all the fancy buttons. I also bought the formula wheel so I would have all that functionality for cars that do use all the fancy buttons.
Though I suppose there must be loads of people that would want to save some money by getting just the one more expensive wheel rim with all the functionality
I'm wondering if the vibration from the shifters is happening because of resonant frequency. It'll be interesting to use
I got this setup recently and I've been super impressed. The one thing I might want to change is to add a GT-style rim but when I asked Moza they didn't recommend replacing the round rim.
Was actually looking at the Turn Racing rim that you showed in this video, does it definitely have enough room for the buttons? Would love to see.
Watch Danny Lee's review. He put an R320 on the CS button box and absolutely loves it
@@willwastaken Yeeees thanks very much for telling me! Been trying to find someone who actually did it.
100% agree it would be great if they sold the button box with QR for less and I can bring my own wheel rim.
Not bad. About on par with fanatec clubsport tier but with a superior quick release at least until the release of QR2
Thanks for the video mate
I hope I'm getting this and the r9 and srp pedals this summer, I'm quite excited
I got the whole setup, and it's so much nicer than my G923. Did have problems with the R9, but will be getting a refund on it and getting me an R12
amazing video! Does there any other difference between R9 and R16 apart from the force feedback power? really struggle to make the call between those two.
Hello! glad to see u reviewing this! do you now somehow what is the wheight of the button box only?
Thanks for the review!
It's nice but I hate it when any racing wheel (from fanatec, moza...) has a lack in buttons like here. It's not that hard to make more buttons. Like for example the Moza R5 wheel has a nice amount of buttons.
Hey Will, so it looks relatively straight forward to just undo the screw and mount another rim to the bottom box/shifters. That would really draw me to this more then anything.
Are you going to review their entry level pedals as well?
I am seriously considering getting the whole set from Moza and from the info I gathered so far, I should really pay a close attention to quality of pedals…
Drum and Bass!!!
i literally just bought a decent running car at this price they really need to work on getting the prices of wheels down though. Like how is it i can get a controller for 70 bucks but a steering wheel is at least 200+ for a decent one. I realize thoug that its gonna cost more than your avg controller but 1000 bucks for a wheel seems wild when you can get an r9 bundle for that.
Finally a cheap wheel that’s high quality and non plastic
Similar money to fanatec but no console support? Seems too expensive then.
In what scenario would someone buy the RS V2 over this?
Hey Will. Need your help. Does the cube controls rims for as well. Can’t find any info to validate. Thanks brotha
If you can get the Moza R9 with the GS wheel at the same price as a Alpha Mini with the d wheel. What would you pic?
I NEED HELP GUYS!!!!
Random question from a video i saw that you made about Custom Resolution Utility, will CRU work with triple 43inch ultrawide 4k TVs, im having an absolute nightmare, my left mirror is in front of me and my right mirror behind me, everything looks weird and to large!
I have played hours on my desk with no issues i do have a heavy sturdy desk with a printer and a lot of stuff in the desk the clamp is just amazing how it works with the size and weight of the wheel and base and so easy to remove.
So far i am unable to get the pedals seen in Eurotruck 2 and American Truck simulators tried G923 Mode ect but then Logitech's advised setting they show don't mention pedal settings or game support for them on PC i don't own any Console.
Does anyone know if the thrustmaster 599xx evo wheel rim would fit on this ... like the one suggested at 06:40
And they now announced a conversion for the wheel that lets you remove the rim and switch it to a formula/GT style wheel. Monster deal.
The conversion kit is for the ES model.
Your "BOOSTED" code for Moza does not work anymore sadly. Was about to pull the trigger but not with no code lol.
They got rid of all the discount codes a few months ago unfortunately.
@@boostedmedia That is very sad to hear because they may have just lost a sale over 5% if that is the case. I sent them an email but if I can't get that bit off I think I will just go with another option. The 5% really helps with the shipping cost.
I'm thinking the R9 as a first DD is a good choice. My wife gonna be so mad....
I payed 400 USD for this wheel alone, I don't think it would be completely unreasonable to expect real leather, lol. Not that I really care, just want my sim setup to fucking be in stock so they can ship it.
It doesn't have a horn like the other wheel though :D :D :D
Hi Will, can the stock wheel rim be replaced with an aftermarket one i.e. a Momo wheel rim over the Moza CS wheel button boxes?
You can get the quick release adapter. It’s only 70 bucks and can accommodate for any aftermarket wheel!
I really hope that moza compatible with playstation soon.. so I have more option to choose.. not only fanatec..
theres an adapter called the ras1ution that a lot of people are using to use mozas on consoles without any issue
Are you going to look at there pedals as well?
Testing them now
@@boostedmedia nice thats good to hear! Loving the moza brand so i hope the pedals are also good!
@@boostedmedia Yes, looking for a good comparison between the CSL-LC vs SR-P, trying to decide which to upgrade to. Thanks!!!
Yes super sprzęt pozdrawiam 😊😊😊
I wish you'd say at the top of each review if wheels were console compatible or not.
Hi BM! I watched the whole video, perhaps I missed it, but what was the thing they listened to and changed, as per your thumbnail?
Listened to the people asking for an affordable wheel
Coupon doesn’t exist. What’s up?
They cancelled it a few days after the video went live unfortunately
@@boostedmedia probably a good idea to remove the links from the description(s)…….
Plan to get an r5 with the cs v2 wheel soon to replace my tmx
295 Euro for bringing their stuff to Belgium I think is a bit much
Was excited about this until I saw the $245USD delivery fee to Australia....
Check pagnian imports.
499 on there , but free shipping lol
I have an R9 with the CS Wheel and the FSR wheel. Generallly I love the setup, but I am having problems with the CS wheel shifter paddles not registering shifts. Also the wheel disconnects from base. Not sure if it's an issue with the bluetooth connection. FSR wheel tends to be more reliable, but do exhibit mis-shifts and disconnects as well. Anyone else having issues?
did you fixed the issue?
now the pricw for fanatec is 200 ceper (both with 3 pedals) i dont know wich to get? mosa r9 is 850 and fanateck 8nm csl 650?
Does it matter what wheel you use? Aside from the pleasing aesthetics of having a wheel that matches what the real racers use, does it really matter if, for example, you use a normal wheel for Formula racing? If so, why?
So many reviews of products without any information on what really matters. Many of us will only be prepared to buy one expensive wheel, so this stuff matters
My intermediate racer take: 320mm wheels are good for having nice fine-grained control in many classes like GT3 but in open-wheelers you often make quicker, jerkier movements (more so the closer you get to F1 cars). A smaller, lighter wheel at 285-300mm is easier to turn left and right more quickly. 300mm is what many people would consider the sweet spot for covering the biggest range of cars. If you meant the shape of the wheel, no, driving formula with a round wheel won't be an issue. Maybe just that it will cover a bit of your dashboard if you're sitting low.
On the other hand, using a formula wheel for drifting or rally will be a bit harder. That's why for the most part a round wheel is preferred if you're doing multiple driving disciplines, and like Exci says, 300mm is the sweet spot between the 280mm of most formula and prototype rims, and the 320mm of others.
this CS wheel is to heavy - 2,4 kg. FFB will be dampened.
100th view sheeesh
always annoys me when videos say its like $900 but when you live in the UK its like around $1200 :(
That wheel might be too heavy for the R9
This is just a message to let you know the MOZA Racing is a total nightmare if you have any issues with their products. I bought an R9 base and a Formula one wheel and both of these products came with an important number of issues. After weeks of talking to their support, which it is deplorable, I'm probably force to re-start the dispute with the help of my bank in order to get part of the money they want to keep.
You really don't want to deal with people like this.
They are just doing whatever the want and deciding what to pay me back. I'm looking for the possibility of putting a legal complaint agains this company. Will be talking to my bank and will be looking to my rights on this situation to make sure I do what I can to get the full reimbursement of my initial order which they informed me is not going to be the case.
So please, in order to save you from getting into this hell, stay away from this company. If anyone wants to get more details or even have a call with me I will be more than happy to explain the full story I'm going through with this organization.
Good to know and thanks for sharing. A lot of people are reluctant to share bad experiences like this but it’s important for people get get a balanced view.