Is This The END of Fanatec? Moza R9 & GS Wheel Review
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Today we review Moza Racing's R9 Direct Drive Wheelbase and GS Formula & GT Style rim. They've stormed into the sim racing space seemingly out of nowhere over the last year, and are causing rivals like Fanatec more than a few headaches.
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0:00 Intro
1:16 Unboxing
7:34 Features
15:44 Software & Setup
24:50 Driving Test: Assetto Corsa Competizione
32:31 Driving Test: iRacing
36:01 INSANE Formula 1 Driving Test
44:13 Summary
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So what I've noticed browsing the shops of Moza and Fanatec: Moza offers their prices with VAT excluded whereas prices on the Fanatec EU store are with tax included. So in my case, being in Germany, that's at least an extra 19% VAT on the Moza gear if I were to order it. In the end, it comes out as more expensive than a comparable Fanatec rig. Something that should be taken into consideration.
@@desaster00 No, it doesn't. There are many EU retailers, most of them being German.
@@RacingPotato12 where have you found a retailer, that has Moza gear available? I have yet to find one. Only source rn is Moza direct and they sell with no VAT and ship from outside EU.
I think it’s important to point out that Moza is not necessarily trying to market their products to entry-level sim racers. I see comments about the pricing of these products. I started out with a Thrustmaster T150 and had plenty of fun with it. I hate to see people not getting started in sim racing because they see all this higher end stuff and get discouraged by the pricing. Please realize that products like this are intended for someone who has raced for a while and wants to upgrade or just has the budget to buy this. I think it’s great that Thrustmaster and Logitech wheels are being sold to fill the entry-level demand. I would like to upgrade my Fanatec CSW v2.5 to a direct drive some day. I’m going on my fifth year in sim racing and have upgraded my equipment, but I gave the T150 a try for a little over a year to make sure this was the hobby for me. This wheel looks really nice, just don’t let this turn you off from the hobby when there are alternatives to get you started.
I drove with a g27 since 2012, before that a DFGT, and before that a Microsoft Sidewinder wheel and before that a Thrustmaster Grandprix 1. After 26 years of sim racing since 7 years old I have finally went DD with the Moza r9 and boy so I feel spoiled.
Any Sim Racing is racing… Enjoy the ride!!
T-150!!!! that's what I drive. lol. I currently mostly drive Daytona superspeedway for meditation. That's why I'm virtualawakeningproject. lol. My GF had a series of strokes, and my therapy is literally doing endless laps on Daytona, mindful of my breathing, and our ultimate connection as one.
I bought t300 just because i wasn't sure how i will like racing ( in acc ) and was scared it was going to be a waste of money but now after 6months i do want an upgrade but reselling the wheel is hard
The CSW 2.5 is an awesome base. I still have mine as backup if anything happens to my DD2. Amazing base and not your typical belt drive. It is better than what it should be, if this makes sense.
Right. Hundreds of Hours of fun with my logitech
Im loving my fanatec gt dd pro and mclaren wheel. However, more competition is great. And that wheel looks awesome. Im glad to see more companies get in the space.
just ordered a dd pro and mclaren rim. how are the rocker shifters?
@@backseatgamer1808 not as loud as moza. Lol. I really enjoy the feel of the mclaren rim. Not as many buttons. But its a solid rim.
Let me tell you something… I also have CSL DD and I moved from McLaren wheel to Formula V2,5 and I’ve never looked back at Macca’s wheel again 👀 FFB on that wheel feels much stronger (on the same ffb settings as was with Macca wheel), more detailed,more fidelity sharper and crispy and I’m able to make turns easier. It feels like I’ve gained another 2NM of strength.
Yes McLaren wheel is a great option in terms of value for money, but ooh boy that 2,5av smashing it 🤯 Really recommended this upgrade ☝🏼
@@JAILEDforMEMES the FFB strength feeling better could come down to the fact that the formula v2 rim is 2cm smaller. So smaller turning radius. Does look like a nice rim though.
@@midnightlexicon it could be that, however it feels much nicer,sharper and stronger with better fidelity of the road even on straights where radius doesnt really come to play. I fully recommend that 2,5 wheel and I`m actually going to sell Macca.
Bought one a few weeks ago with their load cell pedals and I absolutely love it. I had been using a driving force gt since 2012 and it has completely changed up the game for me. Highly recommend not only for the price, but for the fact that fanatec shipping takes ages and they're never in stock these days. That's the whole reason I even discovered Moza was that Fanatec wheels I wanted were never in stock.
Your videos are very pleasant to watch. Usually I dont notice good production value for these kind of videos up front, so very good job!
I don't even play any games on any platform yet I just watched this nearly hour long video & enjoyed it! I have no opinion to offer, all I will say is I enjoy your content. Cheers.
Built quality, new ecosystem and connectivity is really good. There may be little cons but, Moza listens to their communty and make upgrades and changes quickly.
We also reviewed R9 with RS D shape steering wheel on our channel.
Keep up the good work mate 👍
Do you have a review for t300?
@@katman2192 we have it but we made it on 2019. (As our language Turkish)
As a long term user of Thrustmaster products and T300, T300 can be a good starting wheel for simracing.
You can find many good T300 reviews on YT.
I've used both and I prefer FANATEC, there eco system is unmatched and to me it just seems like a overall better product.
@@Bobbarker23455 yea i know that but no way in hell i am giving that amount of money for a wheel
@@katman2192 personally the T300 is as good as it gets in the given price range.
If the Moza wheel base doesn't work on consoles then it's not the end of FANATEC.
It would be great if this caused FANATEC to reduce the price of the DD Pro though because €800 excluding delivery and load cell brake kit is too expensive still.
Coming here to say exactly this.
Yeah not the end but makes Fanatec look overpriced for the quilty of their products.
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough especially the rubber coated cheap feeling wheel and two pedal set that comes with the DD PRO.
I think they sell the DD Pro base on its own for €600 which is about €120 more than the CSL DD base on its own
@@Steve30x that's the main thing that i literally can't understand, how can i spend a fairly high amount of money on a wheel and only get two pedals? Ffs the G25 came with a full kit, the only thing it doesn't have is a handbrake (wich is never included with wheels anyways)
Moza is in talk with Sony regarding Playstation support...who knows..
One thing that would steer me back towards Fanatec is the ability to adjust wheel settings on the fly. I'm always playing around with my brake force settings and can do that directly on my Formula V2.5 wheel. Another thing Moza needs to get is a Playstation license. If they at least get the PS license and compatibility, I might move over. Impressive hardware nonetheless. Thanks for the review!
You can also use the app on your phone to adjust settings while driving
Just a correction there, the Fabatec Formula V2 is 280 millimeters (or 28 centimeters), not 28 millimeters, same as Moza GS that it's 300 millimeters (30 centimeters) not 30 millimeters...
That gives a difference of 20 millimeters (2 centimeters) between the two, not 2 millimeters like you said.
the loud click is how my Asher F28 came but they provide a tool less , easy way to swap out the magnets. I tuned them down big time and it's perfect.. So good to see some competition, if I was in the market for entry level this would be a great option. I like their software over Fanatec's , that's my opinion though.
Great review Ermz! I personally love the super clicky paddles, but I understand why people wouldent, they are extremely loud.
I have had my R9 for about 2 months now. I play it evreyday and love it to bits. Their product line fits between Fanatec CSL DD and the simucube imo. The CSL feels like a toy and Fanatec customer support is garbage which is why I chose Moza.
Spot on with the garbage support from Fanatec. Read so much stuff about how bad it is. That is why I'll never get my first DD and wheel from them. Look out for Asetek who do the pedals as well. They are bringing out a DD wheelbase and wheel or wheels this year. Great video Ermin!
Lmaooo tell me you're not a shill without telling me? I had horrible experience with moza support they are awful.
Creators like Ermz get the shiny gold wheel-side quick release. Rest of us plebs got the regular black one. That is literally my only complaint about owning this setup. It outperforms its price total every single day
Good video. Thanks for disclosing properly that this is a paid endorsement. SRG Barry still hasn’t figured that one out it seems and if anyone calls him out he just blocks them from commenting. 😂
It would be good to see some of these wheels and sim stuff come down in price a little bit because everything does just seem so expensive and if you don’t have much of a budget it does put buying any new stuff on hold. I’d love to get into PC racing and upgrade my wheel but you’ve got to spend so much money it’s annoying but to anyone who is doing that good luck and I hope you enjoy it because it looks so good.
These are not entry level though there's different levels of quality.
I tend to think that 350 - 400 dollars low force 3nm DD wheel pack with steering wheel and pedals as entry level is something that may appear on the market soon. It's just a technology evolution after gear based and belt driven systems. With commercial versions those can come smaller in size than actual g27 etc. High end DD wheel market is not big enough for multiple manufacturers to fight for.
@Brian Boulter DD users may be less than 5% of sim racing wheel users , millions are satisfied with the cheap 300-400 dollars wheel packages base + rim. Logitech G series are 2.5nm but lot of users don't use them at full 100% FFb. A 3nm DD wheel with the FFB details that it can deliver would be a nice affordable upgrade already. Only users that tried the 10nm+ dd base know that it's better than a 3nm dd wheel it's a matter of both technical and psychological approach
I disagree with you totally, and you are obviously wrong : clicky paddle shifters are great !
On a serious note, the lack of clicky buttons is a bit of a disappointment. When you're racing you need to have that clear and sharp tactile feedback that you indeed pressed the button, because your focus should be on driving
There's enough feedback on the buttons though, I can feel it through my gloves
I wear gloves and I get enought feedback from this buttons.
Right away before I finished the unboxing section of the video I went to Moza's site and checked if they do international shipping to where I live (the Middle East), and they do! I've been thinking about getting Fanatic products but unfortouantly they don't directly ship to our region. This is where Moza's has picked an easy win and could easily win a market that was supposed to be Fanatic's in the first place
It’s great that there is more competition coming with brands in the sim racing space it’s really making us get better quality components
No one has yet to compare ALL of the direct drive entry players, from Simcube, to Moza, to Fanatec, to Camus, etc... I still don't even have a baseline to know even which one is a clear winner by FFB or by price, including pedals... Ultimate entry direct drive comparison when??? Who will earn the crown?
I really like your reviews and channel. I'll explain why the plastic is used on the front instead of carbon fiber. I've been running a plastic injection molding business for 35 years and it's much easier and cheaper than doing the carbon fiber. In this case the molds to make the parts would be relatively inexpensive due to the simplicity of the design. Yes you can lay carbon fiber up for the shapes the buttons protrude through but it's labor intensive, takes a lot of time and would drive the cost up to a point that we would probably complain about the price. Even the flat plastic behind the rotary encoders would take time if done in carbon fiber because you would have to drill the holes out for the stems to come through.
You've just about made my mind up for me with your thorough drive testing on 3 different sims. I'm thinking about getting the r9 since I have a Fanatec CS 2.5. I'm 58 so I don't need arm breaking torque settings anymore but I would like your opinion on whether I would see a decent jump in immersion. I know the wheel I want to use is a little heavier and would take some of the detail out but I was happy to hear you say that you felt like there was headroom with the torque with the formula wheel you used. I'm wanting to pair it with the RS V2 Steering Wheel. Thanks for any help you can offer, if you have time. God bless
good to see you outside the cockpit :)
This is one of the best Moza Racing R9 reviews, great job!
Ermz you sexy beast. I literally have this on order right now so this is perfect timing. Glad my decision to go against the grain isn't a mistake.
love your review and as always, i really love to see you drive.
very well done review! the way the shifts have a hollow echo through out the wheel...i hear you 100% i know exactly what u mean and that sadly kills this product for me.
I've been interested. As someone who's been waiting for the QR2 to replace my DD2's QR1 and.. all of my rims QR1's.
The only thing thats really stopping me is, I guess.. Moza has the style and price, but not the final quality!
From what I've experienced, its abit strange? like the GS wheel as you showcased, their quality is weird? they have high quality materials mixed with some of the worst plastics and the buttons, the PCB's themselves are.. hit or miss as well.
One thing I can say about FANATEC, regardless of just how pricey they are, you are getting a high quality product, thats assured! Plus, alongside that, you get, atleast in my case, quality customer service. My DD2 is one of the first few FANATEC sold, so.. it had some issues with the Motor and OLED. Whilst it was a hassel, I sent it off and I was told, I'll receive it in a months time. The very next week, I get a tracking number and even a call to apologize.
It arrived within a few days of that call, new motor, new OLED, and with it, for some reason, a Podium Hub. So.. that was nice.
As for Moza, from what my friends have experienced, only one of them have received their R12 after having them completely die on them. The rest have been waiting for months, with little communication, so now they've demanded their unit or a refund.
Moza has the potential to really push Fanatec to begin producing more budget products. I love my DD2, but.. its not that hard to design a sterdy quick release system. We 3D printed our own, that had zero place, course it broke, its still plastic afterall. Jist is. If Moza can sort out their inconsistencies, the R9 alone can send Fanatec into a panic. The QR system is superb and.. is straight out of GT cars.
Also.. expecting Fanatecs QR2 to cost an arm an a leg, so.. yea Moza can really chase down Fanatec.
Fanatec has the software tied up. Newer drivers and Fanalab are game changers. They have integrated into sims in this area. Not to mention the entire eco-system is heaving with choice. They will be hard to chase, but there is always room for competition, and it is great to see more choice coming to the market.
Well done EH! One picayune bone to pick however... the Moza wheel is 300 millimeters, or 30 CENTIMETERS wide, not 30 millimeters,, and Fanatec's V2 is 280 mm or 28 cm wide. And to think a luddite American's pointing this out!
Great review. But you're killing me with the 28mm vs 30mm wheel rims. Shocked many haven't commented on this error. As it's 280mm vs 300mm
A 30mm is 3cm.
Early on during the unpacking, I forgave the error, probably a once off. But keep going while testing. Glad you use to be an sound engineer and not a civil engineer.
Thanks for this very much entertaining and informative video!
Are the settings you showed the ones you used for iracing? If not id be really curious to test your settings there! Thanks in advance!
Hey Ermz, love your videos. Could you do a video of your streaming set-up?
Put some simple transparent or even duct-tape on the magnets and you have much less 'clicking' sound. Also easy to remove. And it won't change much of the magnetic force that we all like.
I think I found my new wheel. I'm going to order the cheaper CS wheel because I mainly do oval racing and I don't need all of the controls that the GS has. Nice review!
Great reveiw! which I would love a head on comparsion of the CSL DD with GT rim verus this!
Nice review! I will consider this one the next time i upgrade. And amm nice gloves, where can i get one of those?
Upgrading from an ancient G25 to the R9 w/ CS wheel and Simforge Mark-1 pedals. I got the CS wheel in a split shipment. WOW! The R9 base just left Hong Kong yesterday…now I have to wait on the August batch of pedals to be made and shipped.
Despite only having the CS wheel at this point, I can tell it’s going to be a MASSIVE upgrade to the G25.
You can't use it on the console tho mate
I just recently started sim racing but when I decide to upgrade this is on my short list of wheels to check out. I've gotta get better first.
I would love to see review on their desk clamp as well, it seems much sturdier than the basic one from fanatec and allows some angle adjustment.
Great in depth review, thanks for doing this.
I'll be holding back, invested in Fanatec gear, so not justifiable now for me to switch... But interesting to see a good competitor.
Thanks for sharing!
Which wheelmount would you need with the SImlab P1-X if you were to fit a Moza Direct Drive?
Hi loving your video on the moza racing equipment as totally blow away with it as its a definite contender to tge csl dd plus pro too,keep up the amazing work and was wondering what is your car setup for the f1 2022 car on assetto corsa please.
I've watched 6 reviews on this wheel from the best Sim racing channels / youtubers. Ermz is the Champ. By far the most exiting and entertaining and on point. Awesome editing and reviewing.
Very good review. Are you gonna do the bigger Moza dd then we can compare to the dd1. I have all fanatec gear and have had no issues but I must say Moza has me curious. Thank again great video
When I upgrade to a dd this looks like the one for me! Love the look almost as much as the price and it seems to perform well.
I wanna go for simagic. But i love the moza gs wheel😍😍😍 but i think simagic comes alittle bit better out if the test. Next step simagic revieuw haha. Love your content bro happy to see a new video again
Simagic have new wheels called the FX and FX Pro which is the same form factor as the GS.
Moza stuff looks great... But they feel cheap. Most folks won't be able to tell from just looking at reviews. Got to try out at a local Distributor. Miles apart in quality and build. Obvious where they saved cost on. Spent it more on marketing.
Been using the R9 Base and CS wheel for couple hours a day for ~ a month now and imo this is much better than my Csl DD That's sitting back in it's box for backup. Still using the Fanatec V3 Pedals and Loving it
what's the difference other than the moza having quick release and 1nm of torque as im eyeing on both the moza and fanatec also where i am fanatec is slightly cheaper for me
@@minglee4207 imo the feedback is more accurate and smoother,the software is very good and user friendly,but so is Fanalab once you get a handle on navigating forums to find the best drivers,the backlite buttons are a must have for me now after using the GS wheel,Mainly for me i Prefer the 310mm GS Wheel Way over the Formula V2 280mm wheel? Honestly it's personal preference oh yea the magnetic shifters are Much better on the GS as well imo
@@kbsmithgaming9560 fair enough, gonna go fanatec due to the brake cell pedals and cheap wheels as moza is a bit to expensive for me, was going to get the f1 v2 wheel but ppl say the 280mm is a problem so im going to get the mclaren gt3 wheel and bmw csl
@@minglee4207 Great choice I'm still using my V3 Pedals and have the McLarenV2 Rim as well and It's been a good one , A Friend of mine got a magnetic shifter kit for his, But wife not let him have it yet? ( Just a note the McLaren shifter paddles are along way from the grips? More than any wheel I've experienced,Took some getting used to
Great content as always sirrrr💯 Can that wheel be used with a simucube pro 2 ??😳
nice video as always, thanks mate. but you meant cm not mm though ;P
You can easily install the pads without taking it apart. I just used a pair if tweezers. Although I do understand what you're saying they should be pre installed and maybe even a bit better coz they don't soften the click that much lol
great feedback, thanx bud!
Nice video... but you should really put the camera focus and depth of field under control ;)
A good review all in all, definitely makes me think about looking closer at it. Just one thing, 30mm? A little over an inch and a quarter? ;) 30 Centimetres...
Maybe Ermz is only 180mm (7") tall
@@ChristopherGreerCDN LOL! That might be it :)
I agree the VRC Alpha is the best 5 bucks I spent lol. Such a monster car. One day I'll also have a sim rig, just a pleb with a logitech G920 right now heh. Great vid.
Moza and Fanatec are cool, but I went the Simagic Alpha Mini route with the GT4 and GT1 wheels and couldn't be happier. Would love to see you review their products sometime.
Thanks for the tip. Added Simagic to my watch list for my first DD wheelbase and wheel combo
I upgraded to an Alpha Mini with the GT4 rim recently from a TS-PC and it's been an amazing experience. Feels very worth the money.
However, Simagic has a pretty restrictive review policy for sending out demo units and apparently can impose editorial control over content. I think that's a big reason why we don't see as much content on YT for Simagic gear despite how good a quality and value proposition it is.
That is the one thing that bugs me. I've heard about the "restrictive reviews and info". Doesn't make me want to bring them to the top of the list for my new stuff
Moza stuff looks great... But they feel cheap. Most folks won't be able to tell from just looking at reviews. Got to try out at a local Distributor. Miles apart in quality and build. Obvious where they saved cost on. Spent it more on marketing.
@@Fred_Bassett that's just coming from folks who have an agenda. If I sought to correct factual misinformation, would it be fair or right to call that restrictive or not having editorial control? Unfortunately that's how the internet is these days.
Wow what a setup 😍
i hope there is more competition, those dd wheel base are expensive af
These are fantastic offerings! More competition to the Direct Drive space! YEEES. And that GS wheel is sexy AF. And I agree, Alcantara has always felt really bad on my hands. I hate it.
sweaty hands? want to know because i have sweaty hands and i dont wanna deal with a horrible grip
nice to see this, moza is pretty good, this whhel is super, the Alpha mini is still the king as a base.
Is the wheel compatible with the Famatec DD Pro wheel base.
Great video, thanks! (But for the love of Mike, sort out that auto-focus on your camera!)
Would this work wit thrustmaster pedals?
I love Fanatec, but I agree with some other comments, I’m not loyal to Fanatec, competition is great, and had I not already bought into the Fanatec Eco system, I would seriously consider this. The big one for me is Playstation compatibility. Until more options come for that, Fanatec is the only DD option for now.
Wouldn’t the hands off mode take care of the oscillation when you take your hands off the wheel?
What play seat you use?
Need to see this against the simagic alpha mini!
How long did it take for your shipment to arrive once your placed your order? I've ordered the R9 with the base steering wheel for now. I'll add the GS Wheel once I get this order paid for, lol.
Mine took 10 days. Direct from Moza.
@@theRooster722 Just got mine today. Everything arrived in good packaging. Ordered it on the 1st and received it on the 11th, so yea, like you, exactly 10 days. (DHL delivery)
I'm stuck waiting on the CSL DD and would 100% consider this if they had some cheaper wheel options.
mozaracing.com/cs-racing-wheel?ref=c-4JjjEiDpYy49
I would love to have a set up like this, unfortunatley I don't have the space and use a GT Light setup. The DD won't fit on it, or let's say the GT light is not build to hold this kind of weight. From the review I assume this can not be mounted to a table. can anyone confirm this or deny it?
Jimmy Broadbent would love those shifter clicks. Was he consulted on them?
Hey, it's very good for PS5 or PC only?
You are like a tv commentary voice ❤❤❤ like the R9 and wheel
I just sold my old Fanatic CSR Elite+pedals and ordered R5 bundle for just $120 out of pocket! also ordered the brake performance upgrade....
My m.2 cover on my motherboard had the same problem. I ended up grinding the head off with a dremel. i refused to be defeated. lol
Looks nice, but you can't beat Fanatec's line up of steering wheels.
Podium hub module and upgraded paddles are very nice. It also doesn't sound like a car door slamming.
You can swap a lot of other rims onto the CS wheel though, kinda the same as modding a fanatec or using the hub. Saying that, the GS wheel pretty much suits any GT/Formual style racing anyway so there isn't a massive need for others.
You're right there ecosystem is unmatched with so many different options of wheel rims it's crazy.
CSL DD pro is the only option for me because I need PS5 support. Still, this kit looks absolutely ballin.
The crap about being based at the top of Africa is that shipping and import duties pushes the pricing of this kind of gear to being almost double. I would love a DD wheel but buying where I live is not easy
I think Moza would do well to have more entry level steering wheels. The CS wheel is a great start, but a cheaper open wheel would be great as well. The GS wheel costs more than the base, which will turn a lot of people off. But either way this is a really exciting company and they seem to genuinely care about sim racing.
Yeah they definitely need something within the $150 range
@@chickenpasta7359 Exactly why there is no way in hell Moza “ends Fanatec”, especially without licensing for Xbox and PlayStation compatibility. Some weirdos like me only sim race on console, and Moza pricing is beyond “entry level”. Do they even have a load cell brake set up?
Hey do you mind explaining to a beginner like me why the base usually costs more? What’s the difference?
@@h2rv Well the base is basically the engine of the rig. It's what provides the torque, the force feedback, everything pretty much. You would expect the engine to cost more than the wheel. There are definitely some exceptions though where the wheel is of such a high quality that it costs more.
@@fad2679 thanks a lot!
At the moment to be notable competitor to Fanatec, only thing you need to do is to be able to make dd wheelbase that is not entirely crappy, is at suitable price bracket and is actually in stock. When browsing Fanatec I am more surprised if something IS in stock rather than if it isnt.
"actually in stock" haha...oh and have at least one breathing human to answer a phone.
how are they wirelessly transmitting power???
A good comparison between the Fanatec CSL DD and the Moza R9 would be great. Greetings from Spain.
I'm buying Moza racing for my first set up!
whats the song during unbxing?
Also they do have a an inbuilt function in the moza software its called “hands off”
Minimum cost to to get DD wheel base, cheapest wheel rim, three pedal, and H-shifter with Fanatec vs Moza?
Cheapest is openffb
I just received my R9 and CS wheel this week. Going from a G29 it is incredible.
Same setup for me...from a G25.
@@Accurize2 Same… from g27. G27 for 10 years.
I have a lot of oscillation in iracing, I will try your configuration
GT6 music nice :D
Is there a table mount that I can buy for this base?
Yes, it's an accessory that Moza offer.
Is your unit emitting electronic noises, like it was reported in other reviews?
Yes, I initially thought it was a fan, but apparently it's an anti torque ripple system on overdrive. Apparently it's something that future firmware should chill out a bit.
What kind of noise? There is one noise that comes from not having your Moza wheel attached to the base, it's from the wireless connection "looking" for contact. You can easily turn it off in software.
And here are the same...the Shifter are so loud....why cant make any manufactor a slience shifter? But its looks very well. Thank you for the Video :)
i love these type of videos
kinda sick review ngl
Pedals look like the CSL pedal set but it is a very popular design so I wouldnt call it copying
Like quite a few people, I'm loving my new DD Pro and LC, but Fanatec's support is woeful.
I had issues with the accelerator pedal. After a LONG time and lots of chasing them, I finally got a replacement.
Competition might force some changes for them, but I would not recommend Fanatec based purely on this after sales experience, which is opposite to what I've heard about Moza.
Gotta say the small entry level R5 bundle is pretty cheap, probably the cheapest Direct Drive wheel there is.
Considering most people probably don't want potentially damaging the hand the smaller torque is probably the best option. For example I have the T300RS and it's Torque is only around 4nm, the R5 is 5nm. And it's a similar price and the T300 isn't DD it's belt driven, not that it's a bad wheel though. It's still only a couple of years old, so when I consider upgrading I very well may get this brand.
I have a CSL DD and a set of CSL-Elite LC pedals. The gripes I have are, the plastic QR is junk. Replace it with the Metal QR1 ASAP. The pedals while looking nice are poorly designed. Fanatec was smoking something when they thought to glue a loadcell to the arm of the brake pedal. And don't get me started about the potentiometers. So the pedals are on their way out too.
The base is fine if you get a trouble free variant. But if the R9 were available when I ordered the CSL-DD, I'd have a Moza wheelbase.
I actually really like the shifter clicks
Pagnian Imports is stocking these soon in Australia. I think this will be my upgrade from a G29 rather than going with Fanatec.
Is moza compatible with fanatec mclaren wheel?
Will this work on F1 21 and 22