you know you gotta be something when you can make a being like the witness, a being that has been waiting for so long it's okay to call it forever for a single chance to complete the final shape and has slain so many beings that it can't physically be conceptualized annoyed at you. calus is definitely that something
what i believe is that the witness' current form is not his true form, and that his true form is something much more Lovecraftian in nature. and that the same can be somewhat said for the traveler, and that its current form is a shell over a being that is incomprehensible.
they most likely have a 2nd form or something of the sort and honestly i can't wait for us to see that, also i'm really curious about what are they gonna do with the traveler bc the witness we know is not the darkness himself so we know there is a source more powerfull right? But what about the traveler? This part of the story is awesome and pure confusion to me lol
@@chefeinice Well our ghost states that the Traveler is dead, but we are still able to use the light so I view it as the Traveler is like the Witness a user of the Light and we simply were able to access some of its Light from it, but the Light itself as well as the Darkness are two much more powerful beings. The Veil we get told is of the Darkness, but gives off a similar feeling as the Traveler, so I think that there might be another being that we don't know about yet, and possibly it exists where the Witness left to as the Veil was required to create the portal.
@@OvershadowMind66 That's it! I tried to remember where i have seen similar scene but couldn't get it in my head. Need to watch that movie again, it's been so long
1: it appears this exchange was in a dream 2: Calus is bleeding black blood from his head and it looks like a glass dome around him is shattering I think this is what's referenced as "Psychic blood seeps from a mental wound". The Witness was literally crushing Calus's consciousness and causing it to start bleeding out metaphysically, the same as Rasputin.
My interpretation of this scene was this it wasn’t a dream, it was a real life event that happened but the witness is so power she kind of messed with time and “spawned” him waking up in his chair after the encounter. I could be wrong tho
when you put it like that it gets 100% more awesome lol and it does translate to an ideia of power that i had for the witness, now how are we going to fight that in game? Hope they make the witness the hardest boss of the game
thats why the comments exist, to share our theories, and thanks for yours. I don't think we've seen what even are the powers of the witness right? At first i thought it was the drink and that they had to consume it to comune,but then i didn't see Eramis taking shots to talk to the witness, then i remembered didn't osiris drink a weird concoction too? Could it be something there? Could be anything, could be nothing but that's the best part lol
I think the scary bit is that we didn't see what calus saw. Not only did it absolutely terrify him but it also caused him to start bleeding, and since (at least it seems) these talks are in his mind it could be that whatever he saw was beyond his comprehension which caused that damage and for his mind to bleed. And as we also saw calus was looking up and a shadow loomed over him, so what did the witness do? Did it just grow or did it summon or even transform into some kind of terrifying beast?
I'm more curious what Calus was recriminating the Witness for. "You hold the universe in your grasp, and all you can think to do with it-" Makes you wonder what he knew.
No, the final shape is the predetermined end of the universe that the gardener kept observing in the garden. A pattern that it entered the game to avoid.
I believe Odin is right but i'm not a lore master to confirm ahah but thanks for the theory :) the best part is seeing ya'll theories on what is going on
I’m honestly wondering how we’ll even be able to beat it, if we even can! I mean, with a flick of its wrist, it disassembled ghosts; it survived the Travelers laser, which should be on par with the Witness, but it was going through without even flinching! It even terrified Calus IN HIS MIND!!! How do you even fight something like that?
Nobody is talking about the growing darkness that surrounds and covers Calus as he is apologising to the Witness. Did Witness get bigger, was his smoke head blocking the lights. So many questions
whatever it was, got calus really scared, hope we get to see it in the future, maybe the witness gets pissed off at us and does that or something if of course this was the witness and not a nightmare from nezarec
@@chefeinice Calus has lost his general, his daughter, even his own life once. In duality you hear his nightmarish memories and in a way they make him a broken man.
I think the witness can turn into a giant. Calus was looking up and he was in his mind to. Maybe he has power where when he in your mind he can have any power he wants. Like making himself big and making the opponent bleed.
since the witness is conected and can control and move through all of the pyramids than i think it's safe to asume that it is conected to it's disciples since they consumed the witness powers, Which kinda makes sence then having such control over calus
i don't know about that, but if so it is a chance to put the nine and all that stuff in the storyline, and now that i think about it, the witness and the nine or at least the emissary are kinda look alike, maybe it is just the mysterious nature they all have
Calus could never truly become a disciple after he made a wish with Riven to never be a slave to anyone he only became a slave to his own desires so he could never be a true disciple of the witness hes was nothing more than a convenient tool to be used by the witness,also calus having his cup be empty is symbolism of his endless thirst for more and the witness knows that if the power they gave calus wasn't enough to fill his cup (desire) nothing would and he couldn't be trusted
you can tell the witness can see calus bs a mile away, when he starts to talk all that crap, i could feel the witness rolling his eyes lol also calus made a wish? in what book?
This is certainly a nightmare on a way or another. And we are all concerned that calus is in neumona at the cutscenes timeline. I believe, witness used nezarecs power to communicate w calus through out his sleep. But usin nezarec doesnt end without a little nightmare u know. So in this case, i think witness showed calus his true form AKA all of the creatures that are bonded together to create witness. Witness never says ME. He said WE. Same goes to Venom franchaise where all symbiots call themselves as we which is a demonstration of the bonding.
that makes sense, and there are a lot of people saying that theory or something similar i honestly thought that it was the witness but it makes a lot more sense and honestly is way cooler if it's a venom type thing ahah
This would be hardcore but can you imagine if they just killed off Calus right there? boom dead, the witness had enough. Low key something like that is missing
You know, I wonder one thing about The Witness:If he can turn people into bread slices with just a slight wrist movement, why didn't he just made bread slices out of everyone in the galaxy?😅
i think it's bc everything but final shape it's worthless and not woth even paying atention, of course if you try and attack the witness will respond, i think it's more like that
the witness seems way too overpowered, but to be fair all we've seen the traveler do was shoot a beam in the begining of lighfall, the traveler could have another form or be more powerful we never know
@@chefeinice The Traveler was mostly inactive, sleeping if you will, for a large portion of the Destiny storyline. What we saw was just the beginning of what it's capable of. Would the Witness not be so head over heals for the Traveler if it wasn't something worth sacrificing everything for?
are you saying the witness here is not the witness but a nightmare created by nezarec? If so that would be insane, that thought didn't even cross my mind, i like it
Nezarec is constantly talking about pain and fear, whether with his whispers or just throughout his lore. And then Calus is having a nightmare on top of that, I could be wrong, but this screams Nezarec.
@@_VXI yeah i can see it, and you are not the only with that thought, a few comments from other people pointed to the same thing, i guess i was not expecting bungie to go that far
I compared Destiny 2 to cigarettes for the longest time because everyone complains but continues to play. Now they have a cigarette enemy. He controls every ashtray in the galaxy. He fell out of the pack of Marlboros and saw his family get smoked alive, now he must seek revenge against Carl.
I have Noticed Something about The Witness... A Weakness and that weakness is who he trusts as his allies Think About it, he trusted Savathun, The GOD OF TRICKERY To be his ally and she betrayed him Calus, While he does not betry him, he really only cares about the power and beuety he gets from working with the Witness, and it seems he does not like the witness either.
He was also easily tricked by Savathun to believe that Nezarec had betrayed him, which leads me to believe Nezarec was similar to Calus in being an uneasy ally to the Witness. Especially since Nezarce wants to create pain while the Witness wants to end all pain, having opposite goals would definitely cause problems over time. Rhulk and possibly Xivu seem like the only deciples who are 100% loyal to the witness. Oryx also was loyal to the deep although I don't think he 100% followed the witness.
You are right, very nice pointed! Now that i'm thinking if Mithrax can convice Eramis and Savathun can come to terms with Xivu the latter i doubt it but hey, we could hit the witness from the inside somehow.
i can't even imagine how we are going to fight the witness in a in game scenario, he seems to powerfull to in an in game activity. i fear that he loses the coolness when we fight him, hope not tho
yup really liked that touch, it shows how strong they are i was like damn making calus bleed from the head is crazy and also thanks to a few comments i learned that this cutscene is inspired by a movie scene, search "fifth element phone call scene" and tell me what you think
Interesting how the Witness only took offence when Calus started making his assumptions on whatever it planned for the universe. The Witness has been pursuing the final shape since before recorded history, since before Humans and presumably even Cabal had emerged from the primordial soup. Yet to have its newest Disciple behaving like this, ungrateful for its gifts and presuming to understand its task, must have struck a nerve deeper than Calus intended. It’s outburst here felt like a case of “how dare you act as if you know us. As if you understand what we have done, the eternity we have endured. The Disciples understand and share our goal because they know it is right. But you? Your only interest is in yourself. You are unworthy to be at our side. You have one last chance to prove otherwise.”
Now we know it might be doing this meaningless mission all because of a silent god. Calus may have alluded to that by referencing the witnesses short sightedness and that could also be why it was mad.
I got a theory about the witness savathun said the witness's people were blessed by either the shadow of darkness and the radiance of light my theory they were blessed by both think about the radiant mast was a light artifact to connect the veil to the traveler there's also theories about someone or something in the traveler perhaps it's could be another one of the witness's specie in the traveler what do you think?
"savathun said the witness's people were blessed by either the shadow of darkness and the radiance of light" when did she said that? i always thought The Witness had no race, that opens a lot of stuff! Oh yeah the lady right? Yes i am hoping she shows up as the true entity of the light or something. Also there were concepts of her showing up in the first cutscene of Destiny 1 so there is always a chance it was scrapped
Actually savathun say two different things about the witness's origins one she said the witness's people were blessed by darkness she also said they were blessed by light since savathun is the goddess of deceit and trickery we don't know which one is true
I have to wonder… If savathun can be aware of the real world, does that mean the witness is too? Maybe he could tell we were watching him and that’s why he got so mad. He didn’t want his plans spoiled.
@@nrask8727 I’m pretty sure there’s a mylin games video that explains it pretty well. I think she took over bungie’s twitter for a bit… or something. Just watch his video. I don’t remember it that well.
i think at least the part we were watching the witness talk to calus was all on purpose, so we could go to the veil and The Witness could make the link with our ghost
It might, but the witness just wants the final shape. Even if it could do it, it would only do it if it was a mean to get to the final shape. But ngl The Witness does seem to have that kinda of power
"Your fear brings you pain. We know pain. Our purpose is its end." Who's "we"...? The IX maybe? Who's/What's pain? A god? An event in the past? Damn this thousands of questions this expansion left
The Witness refers to itself with the "We" pronoun. Its saying that it knows the pain of everything and everyone because its main mission is the death of everything. When it says "our purpose is its end" it means exactly what that says. The death of everything so that nothing can suffer anymore.
Very quickly i can tell you the pug face is Calus, former emperor of the cabal empire, the walking hot box is The Witness. Remember in Destiny 1 when they told us there was darkness? As far as we know The Witness is the one that controls it. What is goin on is that The Witness is trying to do a link with an object called "the veil" (which is linked to the traveler but we do not know how) and another object called "radial mast" which is an object resonating with Light. All this to achieve the final objective which is the end of everything if i'm not mistaken. Idk if you are intereste so i will not spoil more ahah
The witness was the best part of lightfall. Also does anyone know if the witness is man or woman? I can't be the only one think about this right? Listen to its voice it's sounds like a man then a woman in a second.
I think the Witness is genderless. I’ve only ever heard people referring to it as they/them, and it’s voice sounds like a man and woman speaking at the same time.
I feel that you're always going to be able to find a scene from a movie that's similar. Heck, you could go back 100's of years and repeatedly find related scene after related scene, so I think "stole" isn't the best word
I don't know for sure as i'm not very educated in the matter but the witness always refers itself as "we" that's all i can say, i'm sure someone in the comments will have a more complex answer
Can you imagine being one of the henchman. All you see is your boss waking up from a nap, then whipping his pimp chalice in anger.
lmaoo true
"Pimp chalice" got me 🤣
Calus's henchmen are of clones with no will of their own. They don't think.
@@Oriaks Didn't Caiatl say some of them weren't just clones, but traitors?
That infinite apologies part scared tf out of me as well
my man was seeing his whole lifespam after he pissed off the witness
Plus the random bleeding under his mask
@@natek4488you're right on that one.
@@natek4488 nice little Reference to the Fifth Element, isnt it? ^^
@@Rhanith Never saw that movie, so I can't judge
The witnesss gonna be a dope as gun
lmaoo true, our vault about to have a smoke gun
Lmao gonna get turned into an exotic pack, literally
Best comment I have seen so far on youtube.
RIP Lance!!
@@rickice5618 For sure, he’s going to be missed.
"Your fear brings you pain."
*Discord notification
"We know pain."
the discord noties went crazy on all my lighfall videos lmao
He got @everyone’d didn’t he? No wonder he’s pissed!!! 😂
I didn't even realize that until you pointed it out! 🤣 Makes this 20x better!
Scene reminded me of The Fifth Element. And love how the tormentors looked at him afterwards like "You pissed off the boss again?"
That's what I thought
so many people mentioned that, i gotta go see it now lol
I said the same thing like dang like literally the same especially with the leaking helm bit😂😂😂
this is a direct reference, no doubt
@@chefeinice it's a great movie.
1:07
I always interpret this scene as the Witness’s true form being so incomprehensible that it broke calus’s brain
my first thought when i saw this was something like that too, hope we get to see an even more op version of the witness
The witness: 🔥😡🤬🔥💀
Calus: 😨🫀🩸
@@chefeinicethis aged extremely well considering the post-final shape campaign cutscene
you know you gotta be something when you can make a being like the witness, a being that has been waiting for so long it's okay to call it forever for a single chance to complete the final shape and has slain so many beings that it can't physically be conceptualized annoyed at you. calus is definitely that something
Truee Calus is the king of BS, annoys anyone
If he is that OP, why he neee him then
@Zabor-ny3co The Witness is keeping an eye on the Traveler, and on us. It's powerful, but so are all of us together
Calus: (starts whining)
Witness: we replaced Rhulk with this…
If The Witness shows any hint of emotion on their face, you've done f-ed up.
True the witness is the type of character that stays emotionless till it's last momment
I just noticed that the witness did this within the mind and that’s scary it could kill you at anytime it pleases 😐
YES! The Witness seems too powerfull
@@chefeinice nonsense more power is needed lol
Meh. Next year we'll learn a raid mchanic and then cheese him to hell and call him a pussy. I don't see why you're scared
This actually feels more like something Nezarec did as he is the big boss of nightmares
With two hand gesture he final killed the 3 original guardians.....at once
I love the Witnesses design, the perfect blend of ethereal otherworldly, and most of all intimidating
my favorite character at the momment, so cool
I love how The Witness' voice becomes deeper when it says "...is your failure" and becoming bigger
oh yeah it gets deeper, nice call out :) honestly i could hear the witness talk all day
The Tormentors when they glanced over:
*Bruh is you good?-*
lmaoo
I really dig the witnesses calm demeanor. Has a real air of inevitability to it
imo final shape can just be "the witness" and its just the witness doing monologues lol i may love the witness a bit too much
Imagine if Rhulk was given Calus's job. The veil would of been secured instantly
no cap now that you say that, just made me imagine rhulk as the vilain for lighfall instead of calus
That probably would've been the case if Savathun hadn't trapped him
The Witness' face at 1:04 would have killed Calus all by itself
He was done with the shits 😂😂
bruh i love the witness, doesn't take shit from no one lol
@@chefeinice But also like how he kinda show emotions now, at first glance he seemed uncanny as hell
what i believe is that the witness' current form is not his true form, and that his true form is something much more Lovecraftian in nature. and that the same can be somewhat said for the traveler, and that its current form is a shell over a being that is incomprehensible.
they most likely have a 2nd form or something of the sort and honestly i can't wait for us to see that, also i'm really curious about what are they gonna do with the traveler bc the witness we know is not the darkness himself so we know there is a source more powerfull right? But what about the traveler? This part of the story is awesome and pure confusion to me lol
Well, Dalton would be good a playing a character like that. He did nail Hive in Agents of Shield
@@chefeinice Well our ghost states that the Traveler is dead, but we are still able to use the light so I view it as the Traveler is like the Witness a user of the Light and we simply were able to access some of its Light from it, but the Light itself as well as the Darkness are two much more powerful beings. The Veil we get told is of the Darkness, but gives off a similar feeling as the Traveler, so I think that there might be another being that we don't know about yet, and possibly it exists where the Witness left to as the Veil was required to create the portal.
During the shot of Calus’s face being absolutelt frightened you can see the Witnesses shadow growing much larger than it was before
You know Calus is rich when he crumples a golden, jewel-studded goblet and chucks it like a Dixie cup.
bro was lost in the sauce
Calus was bleeding because he was trying to compreend what jus saw!
He was trying to understand what the veil was lol
I felt the scene from the Fifth Element. When Mr. Shadow threatens Zorg, making him bleed from his head in response.
@@OvershadowMind66 That's it! I tried to remember where i have seen similar scene but couldn't get it in my head. Need to watch that movie again, it's been so long
Reminds me of the scene in the fifth element when Zorg is on the phone with Mr. Shadow
Foreshadowing (hehe bad pun) that the witness has a final form as well.
Zorg's phone call with Mr Shadow in "Fifth Element".
yes 100% ahah
I always liked how those two tormentors reacted to him through the campaign.
1: it appears this exchange was in a dream
2: Calus is bleeding black blood from his head and it looks like a glass dome around him is shattering
I think this is what's referenced as "Psychic blood seeps from a mental wound". The Witness was literally crushing Calus's consciousness and causing it to start bleeding out metaphysically, the same as Rasputin.
My interpretation of this scene was this it wasn’t a dream, it was a real life event that happened but the witness is so power she kind of messed with time and “spawned” him waking up in his chair after the encounter. I could be wrong tho
when you put it like that it gets 100% more awesome lol and it does translate to an ideia of power that i had for the witness, now how are we going to fight that in game? Hope they make the witness the hardest boss of the game
thats why the comments exist, to share our theories, and thanks for yours. I don't think we've seen what even are the powers of the witness right? At first i thought it was the drink and that they had to consume it to comune,but then i didn't see Eramis taking shots to talk to the witness, then i remembered didn't osiris drink a weird concoction too? Could it be something there? Could be anything, could be nothing but that's the best part lol
I love how Calus just stopped, it took him a second to understand what he was looking at
I think the scary bit is that we didn't see what calus saw.
Not only did it absolutely terrify him but it also caused him to start bleeding, and since (at least it seems) these talks are in his mind it could be that whatever he saw was beyond his comprehension which caused that damage and for his mind to bleed.
And as we also saw calus was looking up and a shadow loomed over him, so what did the witness do? Did it just grow or did it summon or even transform into some kind of terrifying beast?
true i got so curious when they did that like just show me ahah, can't wait to see the witness final form or something of the sort
Perhaps a ahamkara?
I just realized this. The looming shadow and him having to stare up, when he's probably taller than the witness. Good speculation
I'm more curious what Calus was recriminating the Witness for.
"You hold the universe in your grasp, and all you can think to do with it-"
Makes you wonder what he knew.
yeah it got me thinking too, i guees all the witness want is the final shape but it doesn't change the fact that we don't know
I have a feeling 'the final shape' refers to the witnesses true form and the final boss of the light and dark saga
No, the final shape is the predetermined end of the universe that the gardener kept observing in the garden. A pattern that it entered the game to avoid.
I believe Odin is right but i'm not a lore master to confirm ahah but thanks for the theory :) the best part is seeing ya'll theories on what is going on
The Witness will be in my opinion the most scary and hardest boss WE will get in the final shape... More than a raid boss..........
i really hope it is, after all that we see the witness do they have to be, even if its campaign they gotta do something big
@@chefeinice already leaked witness is FS raid boss with three stages
Imagining 12 player raids
I’m honestly wondering how we’ll even be able to beat it, if we even can! I mean, with a flick of its wrist, it disassembled ghosts; it survived the Travelers laser, which should be on par with the Witness, but it was going through without even flinching! It even terrified Calus IN HIS MIND!!! How do you even fight something like that?
Nobody is talking about the growing darkness that surrounds and covers Calus as he is apologising to the Witness. Did Witness get bigger, was his smoke head blocking the lights. So many questions
whatever it was, got calus really scared, hope we get to see it in the future, maybe the witness gets pissed off at us and does that or something if of course this was the witness and not a nightmare from nezarec
That was the Witness…there’s more to him than meets the eye 🤷♂️
Most likely the witnesses true form being shown to calus, hence why hes so scared
After playing the duality dungeon, the witness talking to Calus makes sense now
How so?
@@chefeinice Calus has lost his general, his daughter, even his own life once. In duality you hear his nightmarish memories and in a way they make him a broken man.
Given the ending of The Final Shape, I can see why Calus was terrified.
Just imagine the Witness as a raid boss.
can't wait
1:20 OH SHIT that is the voice of a badass Motherfucker who's not to be messed with
the face lol
When the Witness said 🪟 at 0:23 i felt that
really touching momment, it makes you think
I think the witness can turn into a giant. Calus was looking up and he was in his mind to. Maybe he has power where when he in your mind he can have any power he wants. Like making himself big and making the opponent bleed.
since the witness is conected and can control and move through all of the pyramids than i think it's safe to asume that it is conected to it's disciples since they consumed the witness powers, Which kinda makes sence then having such control over calus
Yea, the witness knows pain and my man here knows the windows „not now I’m busy“ sound
lmaooo yes, that sound is all over my lighfall videos
I swear i dont remember him getting angry and saying “enough”
it was the best part ahah
@@chefeinice it was yet I don't remember him yelling it. So odd.
Love how whatever causes the reality to shatter makes his nose bleed
true it really gives a notion of how powerful they can be
unibrow goes crazy
LMAOOO
Notice a lot of the witnesses powers have shattered glass with them, does this resemble that it is a constellation of beings put together?
i don't know about that, but if so it is a chance to put the nine and all that stuff in the storyline, and now that i think about it, the witness and the nine or at least the emissary are kinda look alike, maybe it is just the mysterious nature they all have
I think the shattering is reality itself. Just a display of how it can fracture it or something. That's my take on it.
Please tell me i'm not the only one to see a Fifth Element refrence
i can't tell you, but please enlighten me, i love a reference
Calus could never truly become a disciple after he made a wish with Riven to never be a slave to anyone he only became a slave to his own desires so he could never be a true disciple of the witness hes was nothing more than a convenient tool to be used by the witness,also calus having his cup be empty is symbolism of his endless thirst for more and the witness knows that if the power they gave calus wasn't enough to fill his cup (desire) nothing would and he couldn't be trusted
you can tell the witness can see calus bs a mile away, when he starts to talk all that crap, i could feel the witness rolling his eyes lol also calus made a wish? in what book?
This is certainly a nightmare on a way or another. And we are all concerned that calus is in neumona at the cutscenes timeline. I believe, witness used nezarecs power to communicate w calus through out his sleep. But usin nezarec doesnt end without a little nightmare u know. So in this case, i think witness showed calus his true form AKA all of the creatures that are bonded together to create witness. Witness never says ME. He said WE. Same goes to Venom franchaise where all symbiots call themselves as we which is a demonstration of the bonding.
that makes sense, and there are a lot of people saying that theory or something similar i honestly thought that it was the witness but it makes a lot more sense and honestly is way cooler if it's a venom type thing ahah
Mom:*nags with me*
Me:*argues back and it make actual sense*
Also Mom:
😭😭
Someone get Calus his brown pants!
Lmao, he really had to go for a change after this
Cabal wear pants?
@@acgearsandarms1343 they wear something and whatever they do wear calus is gonna need a new pair 🤣
Ali: I wonder which Calus scare to death, the Witness is piss off or he do the most scary face.
Dank clouds brosef, smoke that splrf.
the veil is the ultimate zaza that is why the witness wants it
that emperor dude looks like something out of a low budget studio.
Humanities greatest foes in lightfall are a bipedal pitbull and a sentient can of whipped cream
bro i swear the destiny community is the best lol bipedal pitbull? SENTIENT CAN OF WHIPPED CREAM?? LMAOO
witness: “thank god he got rid of that chalice, it looks like shit.”
calus really got tired of that concoction lol
that fear...brings you pain. BA-DING! we know pain...
imo it added to the tension lol
Probably the work of nezerec
Now if this wasn't in Calus's dream and in reality im sure the whole of the destiny community would've been deleted.
This would be hardcore but can you imagine if they just killed off Calus right there? boom dead, the witness had enough. Low key something like that is missing
@@chefeinice too true we definitely need something like that.
Still can’t look at the Witness without just thinking “mono brow”.
stop lmaoo
You know, I wonder one thing about The Witness:If he can turn people into bread slices with just a slight wrist movement, why didn't he just made bread slices out of everyone in the galaxy?😅
i think it's bc everything but final shape it's worthless and not woth even paying atention, of course if you try and attack the witness will respond, i think it's more like that
Did anyone else notice the Cabal Blood dripping down his face after the Witness got pissed?
yeah that was awesome. i was like daaamn so you are THAT strong ok
There's a good few flaws in the Lightfall Campaign, but holy shit this scene was incredible.
true the cutscenes were top tier
The witness voice reminds me of Satan in that claymation "the adventures of Mark Twain" anyone else see that?
no ideia, but you intrigued me let me see
The witness seems to be on par with the traveler, don't see us winning vs him , maybe the travel gonna sacrifice itself to end the witness for good.
the witness seems way too overpowered, but to be fair all we've seen the traveler do was shoot a beam in the begining of lighfall, the traveler could have another form or be more powerful we never know
@@chefeinice The Traveler was mostly inactive, sleeping if you will, for a large portion of the Destiny storyline. What we saw was just the beginning of what it's capable of. Would the Witness not be so head over heals for the Traveler if it wasn't something worth sacrificing everything for?
I gotta be honest, it's very funny to see Calus scared like that.
bro his face lol
@@chefeinice yes
Question, how are we certain that this isn't Nezarec messing with him? Seeing how this is a nightmare, which is his thing?
are you saying the witness here is not the witness but a nightmare created by nezarec? If so that would be insane, that thought didn't even cross my mind, i like it
Nezarec is constantly talking about pain and fear, whether with his whispers or just throughout his lore. And then Calus is having a nightmare on top of that, I could be wrong, but this screams Nezarec.
@@_VXI yeah i can see it, and you are not the only with that thought, a few comments from other people pointed to the same thing, i guess i was not expecting bungie to go that far
The way the “witness” says “we know pain” also hints to nezarec being the god of pain, I think you’re onto something
And the Witness loathes pain and suffering. He's trying to bring an end to all of it. In his own way.
Such an angry little pug😄
OMG HE IS SUCH A PUG LMAOO
This reminds me of Fifth Element..pretty sure this scene was inspired by that movie.
yeah 100%
I compared Destiny 2 to cigarettes for the longest time because everyone complains but continues to play.
Now they have a cigarette enemy. He controls every ashtray in the galaxy. He fell out of the pack of Marlboros and saw his family get smoked alive, now he must seek revenge against Carl.
Wow...just wow ahahah
I thought it was nezerac fucking with him
Nah, at it was the witness, but now that you mentioned Nezarec, i cant wait to see how he is, maybe in the raid
@@chefeinice The raid is called The Root of Nightmares so he definitely is
When witness go super saiyan god mode 😊
mhm that is what we want mhm
the way bungie displays strength is....odd, he can crush the chalice but only chuck it like 15 feet with the force of an "eeeeh" throw????
thanks to you i imagined calus throwing the chalice with one of those "eeehh" from peter griffin lmao
0:22 witness got a notification on his phone
lmaooo forgot to put it silence
I have Noticed Something about The Witness... A Weakness
and that weakness is who he trusts as his allies
Think About it, he trusted Savathun, The GOD OF TRICKERY To be his ally and she betrayed him
Calus, While he does not betry him, he really only cares about the power and beuety he gets from working with the Witness, and it seems he does not like the witness either.
He was also easily tricked by Savathun to believe that Nezarec had betrayed him, which leads me to believe Nezarec was similar to Calus in being an uneasy ally to the Witness. Especially since Nezarce wants to create pain while the Witness wants to end all pain, having opposite goals would definitely cause problems over time. Rhulk and possibly Xivu seem like the only deciples who are 100% loyal to the witness. Oryx also was loyal to the deep although I don't think he 100% followed the witness.
@@woomyboy98 I Forgot About the other 3
I only just began playing destiny again, last I
Played it I was still on the farm in the original campaign lol
You are right, very nice pointed! Now that i'm thinking if Mithrax can convice Eramis and Savathun can come to terms with Xivu the latter i doubt it but hey, we could hit the witness from the inside somehow.
Can't wait to fight them
i can't even imagine how we are going to fight the witness in a in game scenario, he seems to powerfull to in an in game activity. i fear that he loses the coolness when we fight him, hope not tho
Never before noticed that after the Witness shouts at Calus Calus starts bleeding from his head
yup really liked that touch, it shows how strong they are i was like damn making calus bleed from the head is crazy and also thanks to a few comments i learned that this cutscene is inspired by a movie scene, search "fifth element phone call scene" and tell me what you think
The Witness would be a great therapist
fr lmaoo i actually took the advice
Turns out Snoke has a sister, and she looks like the lovechild of Ventress and Darth Malgus/Malak.
Some Hellraiser type shit im getting from this
i see what you mean lol
Interesting how the Witness only took offence when Calus started making his assumptions on whatever it planned for the universe. The Witness has been pursuing the final shape since before recorded history, since before Humans and presumably even Cabal had emerged from the primordial soup. Yet to have its newest Disciple behaving like this, ungrateful for its gifts and presuming to understand its task, must have struck a nerve deeper than Calus intended. It’s outburst here felt like a case of “how dare you act as if you know us. As if you understand what we have done, the eternity we have endured. The Disciples understand and share our goal because they know it is right. But you? Your only interest is in yourself. You are unworthy to be at our side. You have one last chance to prove otherwise.”
Now we know it might be doing this meaningless mission all because of a silent god. Calus may have alluded to that by referencing the witnesses short sightedness and that could also be why it was mad.
@@applinarcus coming back from final shape, yeah that’s completely correct. Calus was right!
I got a theory about the witness savathun said the witness's people were blessed by either the shadow of darkness and the radiance of light my theory they were blessed by both think about the radiant mast was a light artifact to connect the veil to the traveler there's also theories about someone or something in the traveler perhaps it's could be another one of the witness's specie in the traveler what do you think?
"savathun said the witness's people were blessed by either the shadow of darkness and the radiance of light" when did she said that? i always thought The Witness had no race, that opens a lot of stuff!
Oh yeah the lady right? Yes i am hoping she shows up as the true entity of the light or something. Also there were concepts of her showing up in the first cutscene of Destiny 1 so there is always a chance it was scrapped
Actually savathun say two different things about the witness's origins one she said the witness's people were blessed by darkness she also said they were blessed by light since savathun is the goddess of deceit and trickery we don't know which one is true
CASPER THE FRIENDLY GHOST THE FRIENDLIEST GHOST YOU KNOWWWWWWW
no way lmaooo
The Witness will know fear as I turn it into a common rarity weapon and discard it for nothing
the witness will know fear after being in the dust of my vault
I have to wonder… If savathun can be aware of the real world, does that mean the witness is too? Maybe he could tell we were watching him and that’s why he got so mad. He didn’t want his plans spoiled.
I don't know about savathun knowing about the real world, can you tell me more about that or tell me where I can see more about that?
@@nrask8727 I’m pretty sure there’s a mylin games video that explains it pretty well. I think she took over bungie’s twitter for a bit… or something. Just watch his video. I don’t remember it that well.
i think at least the part we were watching the witness talk to calus was all on purpose, so we could go to the veil and The Witness could make the link with our ghost
It's really hard to take these character serious, isn't it? Mr. Chandelier Pauldron und Mr. Smokehead-Fisheye.
the witness has the power to move worlds to a another reality right? what if the witness can travel to others universes?
It might, but the witness just wants the final shape. Even if it could do it, it would only do it if it was a mean to get to the final shape. But ngl The Witness does seem to have that kinda of power
*ENOUGH!* _~SeCUre tHE VeIL-WE wilL cREate tHe LiNK~_
i wonder what the witness showed him to scare him. cant wait to for the next DLC 2024
glad to see people excited for next expansion, The witness better show us they're true powers in final shape
@@chefeinice im hoping we finally see sen-aret come in and eris unhinged
What was the notification?
me leaving the gforce quick menu lol
"Your fear brings you pain. We know pain. Our purpose is its end."
Who's "we"...? The IX maybe?
Who's/What's pain? A god? An event in the past?
Damn this thousands of questions this expansion left
The Witness refers to itself with the "We" pronoun.
Its saying that it knows the pain of everything and everyone because its main mission is the death of everything. When it says "our purpose is its end" it means exactly what that says. The death of everything so that nothing can suffer anymore.
Witness: we know pain…
Heavenly: who is we?! You speaking French? YOU wanted to be here! I wanted to be in VR Chat!
Why does he have chairs on his sholders?
lmaoo that's a new comparison
Can someone explain who is this guy and whats going on? Last time i played Destiny i killed Oryx 😭
Very quickly i can tell you the pug face is Calus, former emperor of the cabal empire, the walking hot box is The Witness. Remember in Destiny 1 when they told us there was darkness? As far as we know The Witness is the one that controls it. What is goin on is that The Witness is trying to do a link with an object called "the veil" (which is linked to the traveler but we do not know how) and another object called "radial mast" which is an object resonating with Light. All this to achieve the final objective which is the end of everything if i'm not mistaken. Idk if you are intereste so i will not spoil more ahah
@@chefeinice sound pretty cool, if therr is more go ahead, i doubt i will play it
Your fear... Bring you pain *usb device connected*
it added a little sauce to the cutscene lol
That game looks so good, how is it free
tbf this is a cutscene from the most recent expansion, so this in specific is not free. But i agree destiny is very beautiful for a F2P
In my time it had a price
Bet he's got a second form
Bro for sure, can you imagine us fighting him and they do like a cool tranformation anime type shit
Calus just witness Mara r34💀
more like Caiatl r34
@@chefeinice "No Zavala, my tusks are sensitive! uhhwhwidyrurkd73udj"
@@choco5 this was bad timing, i read your comment and 5 mins later i read the news. RIP Lance :(
@@chefeinice wait what
The witness was the best part of lightfall. Also does anyone know if the witness is man or woman? I can't be the only one think about this right? Listen to its voice it's sounds like a man then a woman in a second.
It's a collective consciousness. It uses we/us pronouns in the story
The Witness is my favorite character in Destiny, i just want more of the witness the rest is minor details lmao
i didnt know that, thanks for the clarification @AstroBoy_
I think the Witness is genderless. I’ve only ever heard people referring to it as they/them, and it’s voice sounds like a man and woman speaking at the same time.
Why is he wearing a bucket?
LMAOO
Scared pug
the pug references lmao
Rip for people who try to coslay the witness 😂
gonna be a pain in the ass making all that smoke coming of the head lol
343 tried to copy Bungie in so many ways that they even stole their villain to try and make their game better
They stole this scene from the movie "Fifth Element". When Zorg speaks with the Ultimate Evil on the phone.
i went to see that scene and OMGG its so similar and even the power surrounding that planet looks like the piramyds power
I feel that you're always going to be able to find a scene from a movie that's similar.
Heck, you could go back 100's of years and repeatedly find related scene after related scene, so I think "stole" isn't the best word
Thought it was Minecraft 3
not even 2? just straight to 3 damn
@@chefeinice yup 👍 thanks 🙏
Pyramid mouth
everything is a pyramid lol
1st time I’ve seen witness half angry/ worried, also is it just me but what gender is the witness cos he feels like a he. But sounds like a she
I don't know for sure as i'm not very educated in the matter but the witness always refers itself as "we" that's all i can say, i'm sure someone in the comments will have a more complex answer
Unopopluar opinian whitness is cute
i agree ahah, there is one specific shot when the witness has the cutest nose lmao
Maybe I’m missing context but that “dialogue” was so full of utter nonsense.