Skyrim - Who is The STRONGEST Dead Thrall and WHO to Pick!?

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  • Опубліковано 9 жов 2019
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    In our latest Elder Scrolls video we take a look at the strongest potential dead thrall companions for a necromancer character.
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    The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series, following The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, and was released worldwide for Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on November 11, 2011.
    The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim. Over the course of the game, the player completes quests and develops the character by improving skills. The game continues the open world tradition of its predecessors by allowing the player to travel anywhere in the game world at any time, and to ignore or postpone the main storyline indefinitely.
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  • @HoundofOdin
    @HoundofOdin 4 роки тому +3531

    Villager: It's difficult raising a family.
    Necromancer: That's why you use the Ritual Stone.
    Villager: What?
    Necromancer: What?

  • @Outcrow
    @Outcrow 4 роки тому +2670

    Necromancer
    What locals think I do: *Attacks innocent people with zombie army*
    What guild mages think I do: *Conducts evil experiment for world domination*
    What I think I do: *Works day and night to overcome mortality*
    What I really do: *Plays dress-up with my thralls*

    • @TerrariaGolem
      @TerrariaGolem 4 роки тому +84

      Amen

    • @weirdsilvertetrafluorobora1655
      @weirdsilvertetrafluorobora1655 4 роки тому +53

      UwU

    • @classydemongaming847
      @classydemongaming847 4 роки тому +231

      Would you like some tea maven?
      *unintelligible grunting and various dead noises*
      Why yes this is a new sword.

    • @madhattergamer3567
      @madhattergamer3567 4 роки тому +55

      and for what I do with my thralls... contently resurrecting them in ruins because they all keep getting killed by the same swinging spike door trap.

    • @druidspoe7833
      @druidspoe7833 4 роки тому +17

      Hahahaha i do the the same dont tell anyone tho i am a lich-king

  • @thegamingpigeon3216
    @thegamingpigeon3216 4 роки тому +1718

    I don't know if I have a favorite dead thrall, but I did do something interesting once that kind of broke the game. I used a calm spell on a bandit and killed him, then raised him as a thrall. I visited Whiterun a bit later and a courier approached with a letter of inheritance... from the dead bandit. I thought, "That's pretty cool", chuckled, pocketed the gold and went on my way. Sometime later that thrall died and I raised him again and later I visited Windhelm. Another courier, another letter of inheritance. Apparently I glitched it where it recognized the bandit thrall as my friend and every time he died, I got a letter with gold.

    • @ethangold6936
      @ethangold6936 4 роки тому +97

      The Gaming Pigeon I’m gonna have to try it now damn that cool

    • @user-tp5yb4hr4w
      @user-tp5yb4hr4w 4 роки тому +117

      i had something just like this happen when i was playing with the joke Jesus mod. i killed him multiple times and he has the ability to auto resurrect after 10 seconds or so lol. then i got the courier and he gave me over 50 letters with the same information lol.

    • @letsplaypros1
      @letsplaypros1 4 роки тому +18

      Same happened to me btw we have suprisingly similar names lol

    • @richardpeterson3753
      @richardpeterson3753 4 роки тому +3

      Intreasting

    • @richardpeterson3753
      @richardpeterson3753 4 роки тому +12

      My recent find has been you can equip a ring of choice, then namiras ring and wear both. This tied into me wearing the worn shrouded hood and nightingale hood in the same fashion. All peices of the worn shrouded set including the gloves despite having backstab can be enchanted. The worn shrouded hood wont rez on the kahjiits at least and therefor you can wear some other head peices. As an assasin the nightingale hood just looks best in my oppinion with shrouded armor and i still get the ability to put two enchantments on four peices of armor.

  • @harrybeast58
    @harrybeast58 2 роки тому +273

    I revived the emperor after assasinating him in the final dark brotherhood quest. he won’t use any weapons outside of his fist so gave him a full set of daedric armor enchanted with unarmed damage. Now i have a dead emperor just beating the shit out of everyone. 10/10 experience.

    • @Sionnach1601
      @Sionnach1601 Рік тому +8

      You could also give him those gloves which enhance unarmed. You get them from that guy, some thug, down in The Ratway in Riften.
      It'd make your emperymore powerful again possibly

    • @eatsoup5914
      @eatsoup5914 Рік тому +9

      I thought his player model only had one health

    • @Visceral2096
      @Visceral2096 Рік тому +7

      He only has 1 health though

    • @FungusAmanita
      @FungusAmanita Рік тому +4

      Corpse Emperor kicking chaos- I mean daedric ass

    • @scarletbard6511
      @scarletbard6511 Рік тому +8

      ​@@Sionnach1601
      "Enchanted with unarmed damage"
      I imagine the gloves are what they used to unenchant, and subsequently enchant the other armor set.

  • @mylesdrake2949
    @mylesdrake2949 4 роки тому +731

    My favorite is definitely Malkoran. Not only is it fun to watch him fight his own shade, but every time he dies another shade is created. Which means as long as you have muffle and invisibility you got an army of wraiths clearing out camps. I know what your thinking though, all those shades will be hostile though, well with enough investment in illusion or restoration they are non threat as you can turn or calm them.

    • @wiibrockster
      @wiibrockster 4 роки тому +60

      I just finished a Necromancer playthrough and he really did come in to use. If he gets killed,he leaves a shade and you can just reanimate him again and rinse and repeat.

    • @TheMallachiv
      @TheMallachiv 4 роки тому +3

      Myles Drake where do you get this thrall?

    • @mylesdrake2949
      @mylesdrake2949 4 роки тому +31

      @@TheMallachiv Meridia's Beacon quest.

    • @natalie6811
      @natalie6811 4 роки тому +90

      Myles Drake ANOTHER HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON

    • @wiibrockster
      @wiibrockster 4 роки тому +16

      @@natalie6811 Dawnbreaker is also pretty useful in a Spellsword Necromancer build.

  • @Metal_Badger
    @Metal_Badger 4 роки тому +221

    "Mindless bandit killer" really spoke to my soul there for a minute

  • @retroambassador2945
    @retroambassador2945 4 роки тому +541

    "That spell looks dangerous, keep your distance." You're gonna hear that alot unless you get a mod to get rid of it.

    • @lolmanmagee2785
      @lolmanmagee2785 4 роки тому +73

      i soppose people hating you is just what comes with being a necromancer

    • @ironvillager7778
      @ironvillager7778 4 роки тому +90

      When I revisited Thalmor Embassy, they said: "Walking around like that is why magic gets a bad name. Shame on you".

    • @insaincaldo
      @insaincaldo 4 роки тому +52

      @@ironvillager7778 Well there we have it, the definitive answer to is necromancy evil? What the Thalmor thinks of your actions.

    • @matthiaslener2763
      @matthiaslener2763 4 роки тому +2

      Anyone got a good mod for this problem?

    • @BladeShadow1000
      @BladeShadow1000 4 роки тому +18

      Better dead thralls has the option to mute that line and the annoying groans of the undead, it kinda fix a lot more problems with dead thralls, really useful, they stop disappearing and you can put a mark on the corpse's, I really recommend it

  • @jackmurray411
    @jackmurray411 4 роки тому +828

    I’m scared that Scott killed Micheal and now Drew is his Dead Thrall

    • @TerrariaGolem
      @TerrariaGolem 4 роки тому +5

      :o

    • @Leto85
      @Leto85 4 роки тому +11

      FudgeMuppet, more like FudgeThrall.

    • @matt-ek4rz
      @matt-ek4rz 4 роки тому +26

      He's now Fudge's Puppet

    • @mfs-3kiryu592
      @mfs-3kiryu592 4 роки тому +1

      @@TerrariaGolem what is that username

    • @vdoxsamp7283
      @vdoxsamp7283 3 роки тому +2

      @@matt-ek4rz under rated 😅

  • @TechnoMinarchist
    @TechnoMinarchist 4 роки тому +760

    My Lich King character approves of this video.

    • @romulo.silveira
      @romulo.silveira 4 роки тому +5

      Nice, I have one too! One of the best playthrough I'v ever had!

    • @kobayashi69
      @kobayashi69 4 роки тому +7

      what's your playstyle with your Lich King character ?

    • @ysmirwulfharth4012
      @ysmirwulfharth4012 4 роки тому +4

      Kobayashi watch Zaric Zhakaron Necromancer/Lich Build ! 😄

    • @romulo.silveira
      @romulo.silveira 4 роки тому +29

      @@kobayashi69 mine is unmodded warcraft-inspired. Phase one is a good-alligned paladin: I start as a full dwarven armor (except helmet) + warhammer + Restoration. After I get Enchanting and Smithing to 100 I switch to phase 2, Death Knight: becoming a vampire (necromage perk), adding up Conjuration for Dead Thrall + frost cloak + Ebony Armor/Boots / Dragonplate Helmet / Wolf Gauntlets (Companions) + enchanted Stahlrim greatsword (Frostmourne) + the Ritual Stone. Actually I played the Evil Phase as 2 and 3 , as I considered each phase based on the skills I was leveling at the moment and matching the roleplaying to it.

    • @insaincaldo
      @insaincaldo 4 роки тому +8

      Boy... now I gotta do an Arthas paladin build and have him fall late game.
      ..There is just the thing with him not really being a conjurer while he is still good, but I'll manage.

  • @Gilsworth
    @Gilsworth 4 роки тому +524

    God damn there's such entertainment value in the production of this, have to pause the video just to acknowledge how seamless the writing, editing and research is. I appreciate the work you guys put into your content, the passion is palpable.
    Okay, back to the video.

    • @FudgeMuppet
      @FudgeMuppet  4 роки тому +61

      Thank you!!!

    • @slaireawesome2824
      @slaireawesome2824 4 роки тому +1

      This screams copy and paste

    • @Gilsworth
      @Gilsworth 4 роки тому +14

      @@slaireawesome2824 Google it, copy and paste what I said into google and show me where else it has been said and I will eat my youtube account.
      I meant what I said and stand by it :)

    • @planexshifter
      @planexshifter 4 роки тому +1

      How do you eat digital media

    • @Legendbound-pe1dd
      @Legendbound-pe1dd 4 роки тому +5

      By printing it out shredding it and putting ketchup on it

  • @zakbrueckner615
    @zakbrueckner615 4 роки тому +112

    Calcelmo would be proud of the thoroughness of your research and testing.

  • @personman247
    @personman247 4 роки тому +252

    I just counted Malkoran’s shade as another follower since if I was at a far enough distance (which my builds tend to be) the shade would just start attacking nearby enemies until it died again. Which I also considered to be a bonus since he would drop 250 gold every time he was defeated.

    • @FilmsNerf2
      @FilmsNerf2 4 роки тому +49

      It pays you to sit there and watch it clear out a bandit camp. Nice.

    • @Mr-Weiss
      @Mr-Weiss 3 роки тому +5

      Smart tactician you are

    • @Pixel3572
      @Pixel3572 3 роки тому +3

      @@Mr-Weiss Yoda you are

    • @Mr-Weiss
      @Mr-Weiss 3 роки тому +3

      @@Pixel3572 Yes yoda i am

    • @ToastyRetroCouch-rf7bp
      @ToastyRetroCouch-rf7bp 13 днів тому

      I would say the best thrall would be a frost giant from the Auri-El chapel

  • @shaderu3402
    @shaderu3402 4 роки тому +38

    Worthy mention: Cicero. He's not great in battle but he doesn't groan all the time, keeps his dialogue and dances around just like he did in life

    • @emailname8624
      @emailname8624 4 роки тому +6

      Actually becomes slightly more powerful according to the wiki

    • @alexcrowder1673
      @alexcrowder1673 Рік тому +4

      Yeah im shocked he didnt mention Cicero or Vyrthur. They are both awesome. Orchender and ulfric are super fun too, but he did mention those two.

  • @Billonator117
    @Billonator117 4 роки тому +120

    I also suggest giving your thralls a summoning staff, one extra thing on your side and they tend to know how to use them, summoning something right at the beginning of each fight

    • @mr.d.rektorstudios
      @mr.d.rektorstudios 3 роки тому +30

      Two dead thralls, a companion, and the player, all summoning something and then fighting… time to recreate the murder party I made in New Vegas

    • @Billonator117
      @Billonator117 3 роки тому +9

      @@mr.d.rektorstudios i actually made a video of me doing this along with a few other things lol

    • @MixSonaProductions
      @MixSonaProductions 2 роки тому +7

      @@mr.d.rektorstudios plus a RIEKLING

    • @kentpachi143
      @kentpachi143 2 роки тому +1

      whats the name of the staff? exact name please.
      i tried searching summoning staff but there is no such thing in wiki

    • @Billonator117
      @Billonator117 2 роки тому +7

      @@kentpachi143 sanguines rose

  • @johnwang9914
    @johnwang9914 4 роки тому +42

    There's the Traveller who accompanies the vampire attacks at the cities. He conjures Gargoyles which always makes for an impressive battle.

  • @JackBlack-qn7us
    @JackBlack-qn7us 2 роки тому +85

    Ebony warrior: "Finally I am going to Sauvegarde sent to by a worthy warrior!"
    ME playing a necromancer, looking for a good thrall: "You'll have to cancel those plans I'm afraid..."

    • @neilchristiancalajate5615
      @neilchristiancalajate5615 Рік тому +2

      It's level 81. I probably beat the game before that guy appears. Dafuq is the point?

    • @Starcat5
      @Starcat5 Рік тому +18

      @@neilchristiancalajate5615 That *IS* the point! He's the Optional Superboss of the base game. And by "base game", I mean before they removed the level cap. Seriously, try fighting him at level 80 without anything from Dawnguard, Dragonborn, or the Anniversary Edition. Oh, and no RestoLoop. He will kick your cod piece in.

    • @stephenlonon4605
      @stephenlonon4605 Рік тому +5

      @@Starcat5 “he will kick your codpiece in” LOL😂

    • @ocignath3221
      @ocignath3221 Рік тому +1

      I mean he is a redguard so he already doesn't go to sovngarde

    • @narwhaltheking3105
      @narwhaltheking3105 Рік тому +2

      If only you could bring him back as a thrall

  • @BlankBlonk
    @BlankBlonk 4 роки тому +379

    The best is OBVIOUSLY the chicken. Nobody can hit a chicken and get away with it

    • @geenoix2357
      @geenoix2357 4 роки тому +21

      Unfortunately,the Dead Thrall spell can't be used to raise animals. It only affects people.

    • @bread_an
      @bread_an 4 роки тому +2

      Cant grt you wrong with that chief

    • @profitsmash672
      @profitsmash672 4 роки тому +4

      I used a spell to make a chicken aggressive and a guard killed it so i killed the guard

    • @deathminion11
      @deathminion11 4 роки тому +5

      @Theophilus the homeless a giant killed a chicken at my home.
      He payed dearly.

    • @jhoennylol7234
      @jhoennylol7234 4 роки тому +2

      *How about we revive Speedwagon can i get an F-MEGA in the chat*

  • @mlgredpanda7654
    @mlgredpanda7654 4 роки тому +172

    My new necromancer character is very interested in this video.

    • @shadowabsol
      @shadowabsol 4 роки тому +6

      i was just thinking the same thing myself

    • @bronysaiyan5236
      @bronysaiyan5236 2 роки тому +3

      Thats why i looked this up lmao

  • @shirtstillithurts2814
    @shirtstillithurts2814 4 роки тому +123

    My personal favorite Dead Thrall is Thomas. He's certainly far from the best, but there's something enjoyable about giving him a second chance at killing trolls.

  • @joshuajackson2527
    @joshuajackson2527 4 роки тому +170

    Cicero keeps all of his dialogue when brought back

    • @MrCosmik1
      @MrCosmik1 4 роки тому +34

      Yeah but why kill him in the first place :o

    • @ChanceClubs
      @ChanceClubs 4 роки тому +23

      He's annoying enough when he's alive

    • @frankcl1
      @frankcl1 4 роки тому +72

      ho ho ho, and hee hee hee, break that lute across my knee... and if the bard, should choose to fight, why then I'll set his clothes alight

    • @classydemongaming847
      @classydemongaming847 4 роки тому +12

      @@frankcl1 Lets kill someone!

    • @machomarty8238
      @machomarty8238 4 роки тому +7

      Cicero is the Jar Jar Binks of Skyrim. I always report him to guards as soon as I leave Riverwood.

  • @BR4IN1N4J4R
    @BR4IN1N4J4R 4 роки тому +44

    Necromancy: My mother always told me to go out and make friends.

  • @muninrob
    @muninrob 4 роки тому +48

    Puts ritual stone power into aetherium circlet......
    "Gotta catch them ALL!!"

    • @darthridic123
      @darthridic123 4 роки тому +3

      I did that once and made my mage use ice spells. Named him the “Night King” before Game of Thrones fucked his character up

    • @PupRubble
      @PupRubble 3 роки тому +1

      *turns off protected npcs*
      Jarl ballin the thrallin

  • @cosmicwave9960
    @cosmicwave9960 4 роки тому +300

    “I resurrect dead people”

    • @pedrobettencourt7288
      @pedrobettencourt7288 4 роки тому +4

      In You're Dreams ? ....
      While You're Awake ?

    • @cosmicwave9960
      @cosmicwave9960 4 роки тому +1

      Pedro Bettencourt de Andrade both😏

    • @frankcl1
      @frankcl1 4 роки тому +15

      After murdering them to death, of course

    • @Irmarinen
      @Irmarinen 3 роки тому +4

      @@frankcl1 after all, they die if they are killed

    • @Delightfully_Bitchy
      @Delightfully_Bitchy 2 роки тому

      That's good. It's considered rude to resurrect the living.

  • @DaenaMichelle
    @DaenaMichelle 4 роки тому +87

    The best undead thralls are the already undead... Necroinception.

  • @Kriatyrr
    @Kriatyrr 4 роки тому +35

    Kornalus from Harmugstahl. It's especially hilarious when he shouts his battle cry of "What? No! Get back in your cage!"
    My current character is walking around accompanied by Third Emissary Rulindil from the Thalmor Embassy. I robbed the place of absolutely everything, which was beyond my character's carrying capacity - but then I recruited some help for that.
    The spell should have been named Zombie Porter.
    Just the other day while I was working the forge, Rulindil croaked out the words "Release me..." half commanding, half pleading. Oh no. Not yet. You are still paying for your crimes.

  • @Kazuma11290
    @Kazuma11290 4 роки тому +89

    The first thing I think when I want to revive a corpse is "damn, I wish those blue ash piles would despawn on their own." Luckily, Dead Thrall (the most powerful necromancy spell) doesn't have that problem. It's late game fix, but I'm still grateful.
    Honestly, I don't know why I've never revived Ulfric. I always save the Civil War for last, so I could use Dead Thrall by then, And having a famous and powerful War Lord like him by my side striking horror into the hearts of my enemies would feel amazing. Just imagine the looks on a bunch of Stormcloak holdouts when the man they revered and know to be dead comes strolling up to them and murderizing them. That sounds amazing and I'm gonna do that from now on, regardless of this video's outcome.
    The best undead slave is a dead undead vampire... Confusing.

    • @sympunny8636
      @sympunny8636 4 роки тому +7

      and ulfric as a dead thrall can use shouts, which is pretty funny to have

    • @danieldancza6171
      @danieldancza6171 4 роки тому +4

      @Madam Meouff Sacrosanct lets you turn people into vampires. You can guess what fate I forced on Isran.

  • @cursed-dragongaming6798
    @cursed-dragongaming6798 4 роки тому +96

    The Blackest night
    Falls from the skies
    The Darkness grows as all light dies
    We crave your hearts and your demise
    By my black hand
    The dead shall rise

    • @TerrariaGolem
      @TerrariaGolem 4 роки тому +8

      Manimarco is just a Mexican named:
      *Mani Marco*
      Change my mind.

    • @bovrar2nd861
      @bovrar2nd861 4 роки тому

      @@TerrariaGolem LMAO

    • @MrPink-qf1xi
      @MrPink-qf1xi 4 роки тому +15

      Isn't this the oath of The Black Lantern Core?

    • @cursed-dragongaming6798
      @cursed-dragongaming6798 4 роки тому

      Yep Necromancer video Necromancer reference

    • @kookbook4399
      @kookbook4399 4 роки тому +1

      Just reminds me of
      The violin slows
      The darkness it rises
      As the sun goes

  • @JayF2912
    @JayF2912 4 роки тому +111

    If I wasn't allready subbed, that Yugioh reference would have got me to anyway

  • @NANA-pi6xr
    @NANA-pi6xr 4 роки тому +36

    Going down to Thralls R'us after this.

  • @ZeddrickBattession
    @ZeddrickBattession 4 роки тому +17

    6:15
    "pssh...nothing personal, kid"

  • @gaminreasons8941
    @gaminreasons8941 4 роки тому +24

    I mean Malkoran might not be practical I suppose but him coming back with a Vengeance every time he dies is hilarious.

  • @freetimechannel1465
    @freetimechannel1465 4 роки тому +41

    Orchendor is extremely cool to watch with his 2 special abilities

  • @Undomaranel
    @Undomaranel 4 роки тому +25

    "What do you think of as you slay your enemies?"
    ...I must be the only pacifist wishing those bandits didn't rush me, or hoping those mammoths don't feel threatened and I need to protect myself agains their giant buddy.

  • @Xolcm
    @Xolcm 4 роки тому +231

    After I conquered Solitude and won the civil war, I turned Rikke into a dead thrall and forced her to listen to Ulfric's speech.

    • @glc670
      @glc670 4 роки тому +6

      Xolcm same lmao

    • @aaronfreeman3890
      @aaronfreeman3890 4 роки тому +6

      You're the real mvp

    • @twinzzlers
      @twinzzlers 4 роки тому +28

      Stormcloak dog

    • @4206vidsgaming
      @4206vidsgaming 4 роки тому +7

      Should’ve done it to tulius lol

    • @Xolcm
      @Xolcm 4 роки тому +6

      @@4206vidsgaming He was immune.

  • @kaeyannaidoo4990
    @kaeyannaidoo4990 4 роки тому +26

    I use Nazeem
    It's fun seeing him being your servant until the end of time

    • @discombobulatedecho6025
      @discombobulatedecho6025 7 місяців тому +2

      All the other thralls use frost damage, melee damage, or magic damage.
      Nazeem deals emotional damage.

    • @Nazeeeem_
      @Nazeeeem_ 3 місяці тому

      UrhhhHru

  • @whimsicalstray
    @whimsicalstray 3 роки тому +5

    The bandit chief really is an artist. Effective, numerous, and aggressive as hell, painting pretty pictures all over the snowy fields and stone walls of Skyrim.👌

  • @shiny2575
    @shiny2575 4 роки тому +29

    I would start to necromance and all but im too lazy to keep reviving my dead thrall so i guess my dremora lords are smelling weakness again

  • @zahciem
    @zahciem 4 роки тому +161

    I revived a Thief that I killed in Riverwood and lasted my whole game.
    Should have revived Ulfric

    • @TheRealArcher-gn6wo
      @TheRealArcher-gn6wo 4 роки тому +39

      Daiikus Black Honestly, if you have one thrall last long enough you start to develop an emotional connection and actively protecting em

    • @dadudedaniel3221
      @dadudedaniel3221 4 роки тому +11

      You imperial Bastard!

    • @mfs-3kiryu592
      @mfs-3kiryu592 4 роки тому +6

      @keagan snow saviours wouldnt commit the markath genocide, would they?

    • @jacrispy3275
      @jacrispy3275 4 роки тому +22

      @@mfs-3kiryu592 - the racist-ass Shitcloaks are no better. Not to mention, they're helping the Thalmor by stunting the Empire's growth after the Great War. Tullius himself says that the Empire is planning to fight the Aldmeri Dominion once more after they've fully recovered. So when you think about it, if the Empire & Stormcloaks just teamed the fuck up, and form a potential alliance with Hammerfell, we would kick some Thalmor ass. There's also all the other provinces that could help, like Black Marsh.

    • @sebastiansmith7336
      @sebastiansmith7336 4 роки тому +1

      pek ka you can’t do that without mods

  • @colemanflaherty5839
    @colemanflaherty5839 4 роки тому +48

    >make Ulfrich a thrall
    >make Tulius also a thrall
    >play Skyrim as a buddy comedy

    • @redgeoblaze3752
      @redgeoblaze3752 Рік тому +3

      I don't think it's possible to kill both of them.

    • @ryanmalik3378
      @ryanmalik3378 4 місяці тому

      You can't make both zombie. Only one you can make.
      And honestly both sucks since they not using fullsets armor. Ulfric have unique trait shouts who can disarm enemy weapons, but he very often do this to you and othe followers. Make him not ideal, meanwhile i not see anything good at tulius.
      But both they partner is good. Rikke using fullsets imperial heavy armor, make she unstoppable from any attack even more good than yamarz. Meanwhile stone fist using full stromcloack heavy armor, give him two handed weapons he can become big damage dealer if you play defensive (like mage or stealth archer).

  • @kenmc555
    @kenmc555 4 роки тому +26

    Video idea based on this: Helpful hints and suggestions for different play styles.

  • @Balila_balbal_loki
    @Balila_balbal_loki 4 роки тому +15

    i know this is over a year late but whatever i might as well inform you guys of these 2 also potential followers. At lvl 41 kill Arch-Curate Vyrthur and dead thrall him he will be at lvl 49 so you need to be a vampire with necromage in order to do so. He is in my eyes the strongest goddamn thrall in the game and i believe that is because i put him against every enemy i can think of and he won the 1v1 including the ebony goddamn warrior, while he is 32 levels below him! He gets augumented frost and shock x2 which makes his spells do more damage than the volkihar vampires and will always at the start of combat summon a frost atronach and cast a unique version of flesh spell that gives him 300 more armor rating on top of his 117 on his base armor so if you improve his armor he will hit the physical damage mitigation cap. He has a unique more powerful version of vampiric drain that also slows and steals stamina which makes him kit all melee fighters endlessly which is how he beat the ebony warrior 23 times out of 40 tries. This is now the best part, will use Auriel's shield when given to him (cut content by bethesda) including the burst on the bash attack. The other thrall is ingjard and she should be gotten at exactly at your level 50 when she is the most powerful since she levels exactly as the player she will be level 50 too, now the unique thing about her she spawns with an enchanced crossbow at that level that has 50% armor penetration and she has 100 levels in archery,heavy armor,one handed and block which is why she is a really strong archer/warrior thrall. You need to be sided with the vampires and you can kill her during the quest destroying the dawnguard.
    Their wiki pages:
    en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Arch-Curate_Vyrthur
    en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Ingjard

    • @oldnosoul4183
      @oldnosoul4183 10 місяців тому

      I also have him and I'd say he's the strongest in-game as well, I gave mine Harkon's sword which he can use because he's a vampire, it isn't the best option but I like it, never tried giving him Auriel's shield though.
      With Ingjard, does she use normal bows that she's given, because if so I'd like to give her Auriel's bow with some sunhallowed arrows, that'd be a fun combination for an ultimate vampire necromancer build, though I'd probably damage Vyrthur.

  • @goliathprime
    @goliathprime 4 роки тому +70

    I'd be interested to find out how Minorne from the Dawnguard quest where you find Florentius fairs as a thrall. I've had her as my thrall for ages and she never seems to go down. She spams healing and thunderbolt and is quite aggressive. Also, I've found that instead of Bandit Chief, Reaver Lords are a bit more versatile as they are essentially bandit chiefs who can chuck spells too.

    • @Patrick_The_Pure
      @Patrick_The_Pure 4 роки тому +10

      Reaver Lords flee combat, never to be seen again, really annoying when they do that. They come back to you when you finish the dungeon only to run away again after the first sign of damage taken.

  • @noahpolakiewicz822
    @noahpolakiewicz822 4 роки тому +54

    Nobody:
    Ancient Vampires: I’m not like other mages.

    • @Solrex_the_Sun_King
      @Solrex_the_Sun_King 4 роки тому +8

      Mr Eugene Krabs
      Other Mages: Casting spells
      Me: Drinks blood while casting spells

  • @stevenolson1295
    @stevenolson1295 4 роки тому +4

    I've been playing Skyrim for years and this question never crossed my mind. Great vid.

  • @TheNN
    @TheNN 4 роки тому +23

    I like Malkoran, sure, his shade is hostile, but it is also hostile to everyone. And if the enemies get distracted by it, it gives you time to resurrect Malkoran himself, and thus you can have your Dead Thrall back to fight his own shade.

  • @tobiasGR3Y
    @tobiasGR3Y 3 роки тому +8

    There was an old build that someone came up with on an old website way back when. Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, basically your ran around with two thralls and a companion each being a particular horseman and what I used then was the Champion of Boethia and Yamarz. Was an awesome build to play when young me first got around to trying Skyrim builds.

  • @areawen8266
    @areawen8266 4 роки тому +1

    Great in depth video! We'd appreciate more of these

  • @WakThroughingTheGame
    @WakThroughingTheGame 4 роки тому +1

    I've been looking forward to this video for long time. Thank you guys. Much Love

  • @kingofthegrill
    @kingofthegrill 3 роки тому +6

    The irony of running The Break Of Dawn for the sole purpose of killing Malkoran and turning him into a dead thrall

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte 4 роки тому +153

    Ebony Warrior questions why he's even in the game...

    • @mikeshaver-miller745
      @mikeshaver-miller745 4 роки тому +30

      Ebony warrior is also level 81. Honestly, if you’re a mage he’s there to tempt you with cheese strategies that aren’t fun.

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 4 роки тому +13

      @@mikeshaver-miller745 If I recall right, max ressurection level is 96 so I see no problem.

    • @francisharkins
      @francisharkins 4 роки тому +53

      @@TheArklyte He is one of the NPC's thats not allowed to be brought back as a thrall. Kinda like dragons and dragon priests. Quest tied npc.

    • @Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant
      @Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant 4 роки тому +16

      but he is not immune to the mod that allows you to make anyone a companion...

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 4 роки тому +11

      @@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant then why make him a Thrall to begin with?

  • @vesuvanprincess
    @vesuvanprincess 4 роки тому

    Well done! Thanks guys, this is super useful information and the first time in a long while I learned something new about this game.

  • @Glord-vv
    @Glord-vv 4 роки тому +1

    Ive been looking for this video for 5 years, thank you.

  • @faerora
    @faerora 4 роки тому +50

    I always have that one redgard chick with that unique shield, lol shes just looks cool. Ya know the one at the end of the dwemer ruin where she fights that nord. With yhe spike shield, ya know the one

    • @marcusbergman6116
      @marcusbergman6116 4 роки тому

      I have no idea. :(

    • @faerora
      @faerora 4 роки тому +22

      @@marcusbergman6116 her name is Umana. She has a spiked unique shield, only one of a kind too.
      Shes a redgard u see for like 10 secs before you HAVE to kill her or the nord.

    • @antimonycup7066
      @antimonycup7066 4 роки тому +12

      @Marcus Bergman Umana in Alftand, with the Targe Of The Blooded.

    • @spacemanspiff6332
      @spacemanspiff6332 4 роки тому +4

      I thralled both of them my first playthrough.

    • @hunterfogleman7443
      @hunterfogleman7443 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah she’d be a better choice than lame ass nord imperial soldier.

  • @davidschoen9181
    @davidschoen9181 4 роки тому +3

    Awesome. I was just asking myself this very question and was wondering if anyone had done the "math". Thanks alot guys and keep up the good work :)

  • @TenchiHawkwing
    @TenchiHawkwing 4 роки тому

    Thanks for making this video. This gives me a lots of ideas for testing for the best Dead Thrall at Lv1.

  • @AndrewBrownK
    @AndrewBrownK 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome video!!! Very useful!! I'll definitely be taking this advice!

  • @slinkid9410
    @slinkid9410 4 роки тому +9

    Just use real names SE if you want basic bandit chiefs to have real names. It's actually an awesome mod that I love check it out. Gives names to guards and it sticks so you can actually come back and talk to the individual guards!

  • @jabberjohnsvirtualpets9759
    @jabberjohnsvirtualpets9759 4 роки тому +13

    I really like the Daedra mages from when you go inside Azura's Star.

    • @01mattdavenport
      @01mattdavenport 2 роки тому

      I tried one of them. I was at level 100 when I revived him and he still was so low on HP he died from 1 hit every time. Not sure why but I stopped using him after 3 fights.

    • @JoshSweetvale
      @JoshSweetvale 2 роки тому +2

      You can give misc spellblade bandits Staffs of Fireballs.

  • @Lifeinspiration777
    @Lifeinspiration777 4 роки тому +2

    I’ve always wondered who was best dead thrall. Thanks for the vid.

  • @micferguson
    @micferguson 4 роки тому

    I bet this was so much fun to test! Another great video, guys!

  • @ismaylbayraml775
    @ismaylbayraml775 3 роки тому +7

    I resurrected volkihar vampire and bandit chief , gave them equipments with full enchantments , then I used duplication glitch to get copies of sanguin's rose and gave one to both of them and my companion uses rose as well. Now we're army lol

  • @blakepalmer1992
    @blakepalmer1992 4 роки тому +5

    Courage/Rally/Call to Arms works on your summons/thralls if you have Master of the Mind perk in illusion

  • @stephansinyard
    @stephansinyard 4 роки тому

    How did I miss this.... .Definitely my favorite FudgeMuppet video. Beautiful work.

  • @tr3dawggg
    @tr3dawggg 4 роки тому

    This is a very great video, useful and not something I've seen a lot in YT

  • @Zenloth678
    @Zenloth678 3 роки тому +10

    so if you haven’t already try out General Falx Carius.. you can leave his weapon on him and he will use it, is very aggressive and very strong

  • @shadowhunter0815
    @shadowhunter0815 4 роки тому +3

    Necromancer are such good friends.
    If you feel dead inside they allways manage to raise you up again.

  • @urielr123qwertyuiop8
    @urielr123qwertyuiop8 4 роки тому

    Nice video guys. I've always thought that while your commentary was on point your visuals were lacking but you've really improved

  • @jondoh9414
    @jondoh9414 4 роки тому

    This is a pretty good video! Well comprehensive and good.

  • @BlackwoodSupremacy
    @BlackwoodSupremacy 3 роки тому +5

    I like that one snow elf who is a vampire. He spawns in an Ancient frost summon

  • @TerrariaGolem
    @TerrariaGolem 4 роки тому +222

    Manimarco is just a Mexican named:
    *Mani Marco*
    Change my mind.

    • @dorianrobinette9712
      @dorianrobinette9712 4 роки тому +26

      (casts illusion spell) there your mind is now changed. you no longer believe that,

    • @DreamVikings
      @DreamVikings 4 роки тому +6

      Mendez Marco

    • @jgon12
      @jgon12 4 роки тому +4

      Marco pollo

    • @thegreycrusader
      @thegreycrusader 4 роки тому +10

      @@dorianrobinette9712 You didnt take into account everyone here has The Atronach Stone active as a passive. Recast and try gain.

    • @dorianrobinette9712
      @dorianrobinette9712 4 роки тому

      The Third Crusader ok I know it's practically a sin on this channel but I always forget whats that stone do?

  • @Jackxxx12xxx
    @Jackxxx12xxx 3 роки тому +1

    This is very informative and accurate video. I've ran some tests of my own and it's pretty much identical to the results showcased in this video. I thought that Orchendor would perform better, but like you said, him using Frostbite nonstop when enemies get onto him in melee, is what makes him perform weaker in some situations than you'd expect.
    I still like to use named characters as thralls even if they are not the best, just for fun, but I absolutely agree that Volkihar vampire, Bandit Chief/ Siv and Ancient vampire are basically top 3 thralls.

  • @gerbenvanegmond4007
    @gerbenvanegmond4007 4 роки тому

    The research to get this video out must have taken quite some time :0 But the result is awesome!!

  • @DylPickleman
    @DylPickleman 4 роки тому +7

    This one's timed well for me. I'm 51 levels into a magic-heavy playthrough right now, and my approach to combat is completely different now that I can turn things on each other both before and after they've died. Aetherial Crown + Ritual Stone: also turning out to be a ton of fun.
    Edit: I've also converted the Heljarchen cellar into a morgue, but my only "collected" thrall there right now (and the first NPC I used Dead Thrall in across all of my playthroughs) is Orchendor. Perhaps I should pick up Sild next, I've never fought him as a Conjuration mage.

  • @mesektet5776
    @mesektet5776 4 роки тому +14

    Glad this research-project was reanimated to be unleashed upon the world.

  • @neph6098
    @neph6098 4 роки тому +1

    I didn't even knew about this spell, I'll defnetly do a Necromancer Build on my next play, thx a lot!!!

  • @sixkiller6
    @sixkiller6 4 роки тому

    so helpful and interesting! thanks fudgemuppet!

  • @anthonymartire2036
    @anthonymartire2036 4 роки тому +8

    I'm embarrassed to admit it, but that yu-gi-oh reference had me laughing.

  • @James-cr5mc
    @James-cr5mc 4 роки тому +60

    My dremora lords have been blocking 90% of the time.
    Hey have you made a build around conjuring up 2 dremora?

    • @romulo.silveira
      @romulo.silveira 4 роки тому +12

      I think you're referring to ESO's daedric lord build. He summons dremora with the Atronach Forge, kills and then raises them.

    • @ayandas874
      @ayandas874 4 роки тому +3

      It was one of the most OP builds I had made. Pure Mage with double dremora and destruction magic.

    • @antikaren4716
      @antikaren4716 4 роки тому

      @@ayandas874 ehm no... Try that on legendary, will take ages killing shit

    • @heckingbamboozled8097
      @heckingbamboozled8097 4 роки тому +1

      @HLA I only play legendary, did that a few playthroughs ago, and it went perfectly fine.

    • @James-cr5mc
      @James-cr5mc 4 роки тому

      @@antikaren4716 maybe I just suck at skyrim but I cant play on legendary. Takes way to long to kill anything.

  • @theMOCmaster
    @theMOCmaster 4 роки тому

    Excellent video idea Fudgemuppet!

  • @geigercolten
    @geigercolten 4 роки тому

    Great Video Mike! Through years of testing dead thralls, if you ever want your warrior to be even more aggressive which is my preference. Make them dual wield!
    The only way this is possible is by giving your thrall whatever one hand weapon you’d like to plus one FORSWORN AXE OR SWORD. It’s the only way a thrall can dual wield. Its very effective! Hopefully this helps someone and you can do your own testing. You of course want to upgrade both one handed weapons for max effectiveness.

  • @youcantbeatk7006
    @youcantbeatk7006 4 роки тому +5

    I love how whenever he describes the AI doing something and then shows them doing the exact opposite.

  • @howboutdemap1es225
    @howboutdemap1es225 4 роки тому +2

    I like northwatch guards. I make them dual wield (thralls will dual wield as long as at least one of the weapons is a forsworn weapon) with weapons enchanted with chaos damage and absorb health. I also enchant the body piece and helmet with fortify destruction so it takes longer for the charge on their weapons to be consumed.

  • @curtisnucmed
    @curtisnucmed 4 роки тому +1

    You always make me want to go back to my Skyrim Xbox setup and roll a new character. I never could make next work out the way I wanted. Maybe I could make it work with your advice. Necro’s are always making new friends. Hehe

  • @gregb3898
    @gregb3898 4 роки тому

    wow really in depth nice work

  • @adamb4140
    @adamb4140 4 роки тому +32

    Are you guys ever gonna make mord of those lore based builds you did about a month ago? I really really enjoyed those

  • @kylesutera5263
    @kylesutera5263 2 роки тому +5

    Not optimal, but I always liked using Falx Carius as a thrall. Champion's Cudgel is awesome for damage, and that heart stone in his chest looks incredible for a thrall. Definitely an undead with some personality

  • @muatring
    @muatring 3 роки тому

    This video was really interesting, thanks.

  • @Mage4636
    @Mage4636 4 роки тому +1

    this this I have been waiting on...GREAT vid 5/5

  • @samsilent7695
    @samsilent7695 4 роки тому +3

    I usually go with Uthgerd the unbroken, and the guy you help get revenge with on that dark elf necromancer in the crypt by Valtheim Towers.
    However, I also follow the skyrim archives Rise of the Fallen build by putting them into the Blades first, then bringing them out to be murdered by me later on. So they both have Blades armor and weapons and all that.

  • @neilchristiancalajate5615
    @neilchristiancalajate5615 Рік тому +3

    Orchender is friggin' crazy. I wish there's 2 of them. But yeah, mages that spam spells are really fun to watch. Seeing those AOE fireballs flying crazily makes your eyes twinkling.

  • @bob.4721
    @bob.4721 4 роки тому

    Loved this video and would love more like it! So fun!
    At this point we've all pretty much played the shit out of skyrim and I'm glad someone is still out there taking time to show new ways to go about playing this is so aging game.

  • @adrianbrijalba
    @adrianbrijalba 3 роки тому +1

    Just started a lich Queen Sylvanas playthrough this week, and this video popped up in my suggested. I’m impressed and scared at the same time lol....

  • @Julian-vl7vn
    @Julian-vl7vn 4 роки тому +19

    I find it suspicious that Michael returns to us with a video about necromancy...
    Despite that it is good to see the last member of the Tribunal return to his people

  • @Balila_balbal_loki
    @Balila_balbal_loki 4 роки тому +6

    i got ulfric as my only dead thrall even though i have twin souls so i can keep using wrathman and arvak. I overly enchanted and upgraded a daerdric axe he solos dragons on his own because his shouts interrupts the flames

  • @davelynch8494
    @davelynch8494 2 роки тому +1

    This video's old, but can't say that I didn't just sit here and admire the amount of detail. It's hard not to appreciate the versatility of Skyrim where not only can you play in so many different ways, but you can play in so many different ways to such minute detail that it just staggers with the amount of options and replayability...that all before even thinking about mods!!!

  • @craftable_
    @craftable_ 2 роки тому +2

    Sild the warlock is literally every spellcaster in dnd, change my mind

  • @cathedral1375
    @cathedral1375 4 роки тому +107

    Swear to god everytime i delete the game you guys give me another interesting way to play the game, oh well time to redownload and make a lich king.

    • @Paradisio84
      @Paradisio84 4 роки тому +5

      Why delete this game? How many times too?

    • @cathedral1375
      @cathedral1375 4 роки тому +3

      @@Paradisio84 because once i finish a good run on a character and don't have another interesting play style in mind it usually just sits there with mods and what not just takin up space, so i typically end up just removing it. Fudge always bringing be back tho. Ive made 15 or so full characters i think? So ive deleted the game atleast 9 or 10 times.

    • @hershy1594
      @hershy1594 4 роки тому +5

      It's gotten to the point for me where I just give myself the necessary skills. Otherwise I would lose all my time farming

  • @Daalio
    @Daalio 4 роки тому +5

    When i did simillar build few years ago i was using combination of bandit chiefs as my melee tanks with Sild the warlock as my main dps mage support. He just spams aoe fire spells really quickly and run backwards so he kills pretty much anything before they have a chance to kill him. This combo was super useful in bandit camps against alot of enemies, giant camps and easily cleared out any vampire cave without any problems.

  • @DeityDiz93
    @DeityDiz93 5 місяців тому +1

    Out of all the videos I'd love to see a remake of, it'd be this one. Years after this video came out, I keep coming back and watching knowing this has led to some of the coolest moments I've had while playing using Necromancy.
    While I cannot speak to the potential of creation club content's effects on the Dead Thrall and what becomes available after the level 50 limit, I do know that there are some techniques not mentioned in this video that I'd absolutely adore seeing another take on. It would be cool seeing mods like Floating Damage, a tracker of health/magika/stamina for test duels, an arena that allows ranged thralls to have a chance to fight at different ranges/levels while not being stuck in close ranged with melees (while still letting the pure melee fighters run up and duke it out), and a showcase of the data to the points being made here.
    One of the biggest is how you can give Dead Thralls some of the many Conjuration staves so that warriors can use a staff without ruining their aggressive AI, and give them something more consistent then something like the Volkihar Vampire's use of Revenant which is quite situational (as is their drain). I pick Frost Atronach because of their ability to harm enemy stamina and stagger lock with their ground smash which is fantastic for your sword n' board thralls while Storm Atronachs are the better, they don't do their explosive nearly enough or even melee enough. Like Orchendor, they're great for dragons though.
    It must be said that Orchendor losing out here might be due to the fact that he is an amazing Sanguine Rose staff wielder alongside the high damage Miraak's Staff as a Thrall with stall. While normally I agree having a melee thrall is ideal, having Orchendor be the Rose/Miraak staff user is utterly fantastic because the Dremora Valkynaz used makes up for the lack of damage due it leveling to 48 as apposed to the twenties of the Marauders. Those scripted benefits with the staff's stun give him a whole new level due to the monstrous stagger lock of the staff, and no other follower uses it better.
    Another commenter pointed this out years ago, and it has been stated elsewhere, but can actually use Malkoran to get free money. In the video it's called a hassle, but the funniest part about this dead thrall is that you can use them to fight their own shade and their shade gives money, so you essentially get *paid* to use Malkroran and his shade which still attacks enemies, which can easily translate to thousands of gold per dungeon.
    There is also a video out there talking about how the Reaver Lord Mages (same as the Marauders types) do very well with flesh spells and healing spells and high level spells, acting much like the Ancient Vampire, but without wasting time and damage with Drain Life opting to instead stay battle ready, though perks are better on the Bandit Marauder. I tend to prefer Reavers because of how they act on the approach to foes, levying spells before being just about as good as the Bandit counterpart, not to mention Close Wounds being used.

    • @DeityDiz93
      @DeityDiz93 4 місяці тому

      I should've also mentioned Ondolemar, being followed by his two Thalmor soldiers upon being resurrected thus giving a bigger entourage. Even being able to Disarm/Pickpocet them eventually and forcing them to pick up better gear, though I only think this is a good idea to do if you want even more of a follower army, as opposed to just Dead Thralls, otherwise, a neat little trick.

  • @rabbithaze9707
    @rabbithaze9707 Рік тому +1

    Finally recently started using Ordinator, and the perk that allows you to change dead thrall's armor and weapons makes this all even better