Let's Talk RV Suspension, RV Double Towing, and Fuel Management
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- Today I'll cover some key points about towing your camper, and about extending your onboard fuel range, and another subject that raises eyebrows and that is what's called RV double towing. #rvmaintenance #rvrepairs #rvinspection #rvrenovation #rvcommunity #rvlife #rvlifestyle #newgenerationrv #newrvs #rvamerica #rvliving #rvtravel #rving #gorving
I live in Utah and have been double towing in the rocky mountain states with a 5th wheel for over 20 years. I have learned from hard experience there are some "1/3 rd" golden rules for safe towing of doubles. 1, Rear trailer length to never exceed more than 1/3 the length of 5th wheel, or up to the local State total max towing length regulations (65' to 70') 2, Rear trailer weight to never exceed 1/3 the GVWR of 5th wheel or 3000 lbs, which ever is less. 3, Rear trailer to have sway control device(s). While not an absolute mandatory requirement, I also installed rear trailer brakes with separate controller in cab of truck for rear trailer and have had to use it for emergencies stops and high wind situations to control unexpected sway (always happens in Wyoming i-80 going downhill with high gusty winds) .
Excellent points, sir.
Greg thanks for another good video. The auxiliary fuel tank is a great ideal if you don’t care to loose the bed space. I have a 2019 Ram 3500 dulley long bed with air ride on rear. Love it when we hook up the fifth wheel it’s smooth.
Hi Greg! I’m sitting at a shop in Elkhart right now. I’m getting a Gen Y gooseneck hitch setup installed tomorrow on my Alliance. I can’t wait to feel the difference.
Keep me posted, I've been thinking about running that setup.
Hi Greg - I just installed a 20K Reese Goosebox to my 5th wheel. Really love the simplicity of hitching/unhitching - I dropped our last 5th wheel on the bed rails (back in 2013) - was an embarrassing and costly mistake. The goose box felt just as good as our prior MorRyde pin box (same as yours). On that 5th wheel I also had a hitch fabricated for it welded to frame.
Our current 5th wheel (a 2021 Solitude 2930RL) I was considering MorRyde IS but right now I don’t want to invest any $$ into it because it was recently frame flex repaired (upper deck - cracks in wall sills, missing lag screws - you know the rest …). I just added the missing rollers under the bedroom slide - schwintec - was only supported by the 4 tracks and essentially shower door rollers.
We also tow with a 1 ton truck. So far the suspension is stock except I changed the shocks to Bilstein 5100’s.
Hi Greg, enjoyed your video. I have a Momentum 25G Toy Hauler, 31' long, rated for 13,000 lbs that I tow with my 2019 F250 using an Hensley Arrow hitch. I have a 6" lift with 37s and added Air Lift LoadLifter 7500 XL air bags to the truck. In addition I've added independent suspension to the trailer, I installed Road Master Trailer Suspension Kit Comfort Ride for use with Tandem Axle and Shock Absorber System for 3" Axle Diameters. Handles great! I agree with you on the auxiliary fuel transfer tank. I added a 51 gallon tank with tool box on top. Everything fits under a Back Flip tonneau cover. That's about 79 gallons of fuel and easily 700+ miles between fuels stops towing the trailer. Enjoy your channel, even though I don't have a 5th wheel, there is still a lot of content I can use. Stay safe! Don from Florida
Also.some states req a Non CDL for towing over 26K.Nice to see your fifth is holding up so far, Time will tell
Would never have a big RV without it. We love our MORryde independent suspension and disc brakes. Prevented our Grand Design Momentum from getting frame failure much worse (band-aid fix done) than it would have without it.
Hey, brother how are you? I've followed your journey regarding the rollers. I'm glad you have it handled. Hope all else is well.
I have a 50 gallon tank on my ram 3500 dually. I’m running air suspension in the rear and thuren suspension in front and rear while towing a 43ft fifth wheel with MORryde AllTrek suspension and Reese Goosebox with air ride.
Very smooth towing and bed is free from any hitches.
Sounds like a very nice set up. Are you running factory air suspension?
KZ 391 RKQ, Morryde rubber pin box, Morryde Independent Suspension, Disc brakes, 2022 Chevy Silverado 3500HD Dually Duramax HighCountry, 62 gallon in bed transfer tank,
Now that's getting it done. Are you happy overall with all the upgrades you're running?
Very happy. Morryde is the best. Unlike the other big seller that mostly rebranding items. You have my numer if any questions
Missouri has a doubles/triples endorsement but IIRC it only applies to class A and B licenses and commercial vehicles, but I haven't driven for 10 years, so your mileage may vary 😊
I'm pro Timbrens, I've used them. The flip side is that when your trailer is hooked up and the weight in on them, you limit your suspension travel to an inch or two. That can put a lot of stress on you trailer frame. I am using the factory overload springs now and there is more vertical travel in the pickup rear suspension when hitting bigger bumps.
I use a Fuel box with the pump and nozzle. Gives me 40 extra gallons but I plan to replace the stock fuel tank on the truck as well. I also use Sumo springs on my rig like you have on your truck.
Nice, I love the extra fuel capacity.
I’m also installing MorRyde Independent Suspension in October!
People that run it say it's a huge gamechanger well worth the money. Keep me posted how it goes and how you like the difference.
Good video. I know you're itching to head out camping soon. Be safe 🙏. P.S. get some rest! Ya looking rough. Lol. Steve Robinson
Hi Steve. Yes definitely ready to go camping, all it does is rain every weekend around here lately. And yes, I'm FEELING rough, lol. Construction season in Minnesota equates to long days, little sleep and beating up the body, haha.
Greg, love your channel. We have a gd 324 mbs and I had the 20k goosebox added to our trailer. It has the airbags in it. Also waiting for delivery of my freedom hauler trailer/ tote for back of 5th wheel. Dont really care for the double tow. We have been doing a couple times with my new rzr pro xp but want to be able to actually back up. Considering an auxillary tank. Thx for those one.
Excellent choices you made, I've read a lot about that hauler you mention. Appreciate you being here.
I run a set on my Duramax plus I added a set of super springs.
Nice!
Luxe offers Kelderman suspension
Gen-Y Executive 5th wheel pin box, all the way!
Everyone I know that runs that system raves about it. BTW, HELLO my brother. We miss you guys already.
Michigan requires the addition to your license. It’s called Recreational Double. Even if you have a Class A ACL.
I've heard from the RV Double Tow FB page that Michigan is a whole different cat.
I can pull over 1k miles with 70 gallon aux tank.
What's the Gross Rear Axle Weight Rating of your truck? Are under that?
GAWR RR 7,250.
In California, a class A cdl with a Doubles/Triples endorsement is required.
That's what I'd heard, too.
Yes class A commercial with endorsement double/ triple. Technically called triple. 65' max length.
You are also adding stress to the rv frame....don't cry again when you have an issue
Manufacturers add receiver hitch's from the factory designed to hold 300# tongue weight and tow 3,000# capacity, they calculate that into their equations. If there are frame problems down the road because of it, then that's on them. It's imperative that the RV owner is diligent about calculating their weight and stay within the manufacturer guidelines, and be able to prove it through proper documenting.
Liquid Springs make air bags obsolete……
Tell me more. I've not yet heard of that set up.
@@CruizinWithTheCarsons Google Liquid Spring Suspension. A must have computer controlled system. Very expensive
@@user-kh2kt1oj8m I'm checking it out right now, very interesting.
Had Sumo Springs - and they held the load, but were soooo rough riding when empty. I took them off and installed AirRyde 5000 with the blue tooth compressor and couldn't be happier. Towing a Fusion 373 with Reese Goose Box 20K with 2023 GMC Duramax 10 speed. I run at about 45 PSI and truck sits level and rides smooth.
double towing needs to be outlawed in all states
Why is that?
We're all entitled to our opinion. It's perfectly legal in many many states. I've safely done so for 8 years with no issues. Tell the viewers in your opinion why you feel that way.
@@Good-Life34010 the majority of rvers can't really handle it plus the second trailer usually does not have brakes. Watch the videos of what happens in a panic stop with them. Why do you thing it was illegal on the federal level to double tow east of the Mississippi River until about 30 years ago, and the size restriction.
@@CruizinWithTheCarsons except the frame failure which I am sure was partly caused by your towing. Have you weighed the second trailer loaded?
@@waltfriedrich7631 how are you sure? The overwhelming majority of frame failure is clearly evidenced by a majority who don't even know what double towing is. As far as weighing? I'm absolutely studious about it. My pinweight has never exceeded 210 lbs. and my payload weight has never exceeded 2,650 lbs. Again, frame failure is a majority of units that don't even double tow.