Istanbul Park Returns: A Slightly Serious Showcase

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 134

  • @Harrock
    @Harrock 3 роки тому +255

    Who need turn 8 Istanbul when you can get Turn 1 in Oschersleben

    • @Deaconhall
      @Deaconhall 3 роки тому +50

      "The guy who designed this first corner should be taken into a dark room and BEATEN!"

    • @schore69
      @schore69 3 роки тому

      @@Deaconhall 2008 WTCC round oschersleben british broadcast :D

    • @bang_türk_varm
      @bang_türk_varm 3 роки тому +3

      I remember Oschersleben from a game for Nintendo DS. Since the game was the opposite of "simulator" I thought that I was the only one that couldn't nail that freaking turn. lol

    • @grnhy
      @grnhy 3 роки тому

      Who needs those if you can get turn 1 from Montjuic park?

    • @travenir
      @travenir 3 роки тому +3

      to be fair they changed t1 some time ago so no more 90° hell

  • @JasonBeo
    @JasonBeo 3 роки тому +123

    Out of all the tilkedromes, this one's one of the few good ones

    • @SirReginaldBumquistIII
      @SirReginaldBumquistIII 3 роки тому +3

      This Juan is a good Juan, Juan of the good Juan's for sure.

    • @dani02_mmd
      @dani02_mmd 3 роки тому

      Motorland Aragon is also very cool

    • @namenamename390
      @namenamename390 3 роки тому

      COTA is pretty good, right?

    • @dani02_mmd
      @dani02_mmd 3 роки тому

      @@namenamename390 meh, I think it's just ok. In a sim at least it feels really awkward to drive, but that's just personal preference.
      The racing is just ok, it has never created an actual A+ race though.
      And the looks of the track are very Tilke. Tarmac runoff everywhere. It makes the track feel a bit forgettable to me.
      But that's just my opinion, feel free to disagree.

    • @namenamename390
      @namenamename390 3 роки тому

      @@dani02_mmd well, at least we can agree that it isn't on the awful level of Sochi or Yas Marina (although I'm interested how this year's Abu Dhabi GP will be with the modifications)

  • @logandeeter6151
    @logandeeter6151 3 роки тому +38

    Love how at 8:15 he basically called exactly what leclerc did

  • @petertromp8786
    @petertromp8786 3 роки тому +74

    I think Malaysia - the first Tilke track to my recollection - is probably still his best track; not a perfect track by any means, but definitely iconic in F1 history and unique. Everything after has pretty much been evolutionary or rehashes. I remember watching Sepang's debut in 1999 and I couldn't believe how wide the track was. Incidentally, I rank the 1999 race as one of Michael Schumacher's finest ever performances - and I say that as someone who isn't particularly a Schumacher fan.

    • @SockyNoob
      @SockyNoob 3 роки тому +1

      A great track indeed.

    • @VGOM2000
      @VGOM2000 3 роки тому

      W I D E

    • @djdrastic1
      @djdrastic1 3 роки тому

      Yep Malaysia is his best track . Its a great track full stop.
      That 99 year was cursed for Michael though.

    • @petertromp8786
      @petertromp8786 3 роки тому

      @@djdrastic1 I wouldn't say it was cursed; he suffered a major accident, which almost every Formula 1 driver experiences at least once in their career. He was fortunate to recover like he did and to subsequently dominate the sport.

  • @benyahun
    @benyahun 3 роки тому +30

    The Oxford Dictionary seriously recommends the plural of 'apex' to be 'apices'. Mad props to South Paw Racer for mentioning this piece of lost knowledge.

    • @Reydriel
      @Reydriel 3 роки тому +2

      That follows from the plural forms of words like index (indices), appendix (appendices), matrix (matrices), vertex (vertices), etc.
      Of course, this being English, there are words that don't follow this pattern, like complex, reflex, etc.

  • @StruggleGaming
    @StruggleGaming 3 роки тому +10

    It was F1 on Ice.
    Still laughing at the track workers trying to rubber in the circuit between Friday and Saturday only to have it rain and be wet the rest of the weekend

  • @rosso4k
    @rosso4k 3 роки тому +60

    sadly istanbul park is kinda like a one-off appearance

    • @VGOM2000
      @VGOM2000 3 роки тому +2

      Or any of the substitute tracks for that matter. Pretty far-fetched to hope any of those (Portimão, Imola, Nür or this one) is going to be featured at that April TBA slot.

    • @rosso4k
      @rosso4k 3 роки тому

      @@VGOM2000 hopefully that wasnt vietnam

    • @dustinlindsey1859
      @dustinlindsey1859 3 роки тому

      @@rosso4k it was.

    • @rosso4k
      @rosso4k 3 роки тому

      @@dustinlindsey1859 is it ??

    • @tyretear1263
      @tyretear1263 3 роки тому +2

      HAHA! IT IS IN 2021'S CALENDER TOO NOW

  • @pnkrally
    @pnkrally 2 роки тому +1

    How did I miss these 2020 videos, really love the serious approach with proper insight.

  • @calvinliem8271
    @calvinliem8271 3 роки тому +6

    this track seems like the only modern track that can hold wheel to wheel battle with modern F1 cars.

  • @MrSparkefrostie
    @MrSparkefrostie 3 роки тому +7

    The super serious moment made me so happy...

  • @stephenosullivan74
    @stephenosullivan74 3 роки тому +6

    Another fine video. Although modern F1 cars have neutered Istanbul somewhat, it is an excellent GT endurance track. Try the RSS GT1 cars or modern GT3s on the Assetto Corsa version for simracing fun. (Incidentally, Rhys's videos show that AMS1 still has a lot to offer.)

  • @wibblewabblewoo6249
    @wibblewabblewoo6249 3 роки тому +4

    Tilke gets a lot of hate but Turkey, Malaysia, China, COTA &Bahrain have all had brilliant F1 races in the past... how many good races have there been in Spain? (Ok, Abu Dhabi is shit, I’ll be the first to admit!!!)
    I just wish the run off areas were replaced with GRASS & GRAVEL because then Turkey would actually be my favourite track on AC & RF2 😜

  • @podium8831
    @podium8831 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much i was waiting for this for so long!

  • @junienet
    @junienet 3 роки тому +1

    if this guy ever does a super serious track guide/slightly serious showcase on the nurburgring nordschleife its gonna be one hell of a movie

  • @tytycoolit6193
    @tytycoolit6193 3 роки тому +6

    Can you do a slightly serious track guide on an oval

  • @09tclarke
    @09tclarke 3 роки тому +3

    T1&2 looks so like interlagos I got lost for a minute

  • @Wingyy1995
    @Wingyy1995 3 роки тому +3

    I think this track, with the 2022 regulations will be great. Current cars have SO much downforce that a lot of the challenge can be taken out.
    Far from the worst Tilkedrome, but I've been a fan of it for a while.
    Would probably put it 3rd, behind Sepang and the Buddh circuit (dont @ me that's a great track)
    But everything after Bahrain was basically just the same track just stitched differently

  • @guy8806
    @guy8806 3 роки тому +11

    Turn 8 would probably be dramatically less exciting considering modern cars can easily take it flat

  • @trackstarpat151
    @trackstarpat151 3 роки тому

    Glad to see more videos. Keep up the great work

  • @harpysharpy104
    @harpysharpy104 3 роки тому +15

    Fun Fact : Fans were actually gonna be allowed and my family had bought tickets, but due to rising virus cases they had to cancel the attendance of fans, woulda been the first F1 race i would have ever gone to ! Thankfully the tickets were refunded
    (Also sending cheers from Turkey mate, love ya vids)

    • @VGOM2000
      @VGOM2000 3 роки тому +2

      Iirc it was done not a month before the race, so yeah, I would be a little bit salty over that...

    • @harpysharpy104
      @harpysharpy104 3 роки тому +2

      Adds insult to injury that someone had botted every site that was selling tickets for the race and so they had to raise the price, and so we couldn't buy tickets for the stands and just ended up getting tickets to be on the ground...heard its pretty common that this happens tho...

    • @matgee8892
      @matgee8892 3 роки тому +1

      @@harpysharpy104 That sucks mate. Dont worry, the virus wont last forever but F1 will. You will get to attend a race some day.

    • @harpysharpy104
      @harpysharpy104 3 роки тому

      @@matgee8892 Thanks, and yeah i'll attend an F1 race and maybe, if things go lucky in the future...maybe partake in it as well

    • @VGOM2000
      @VGOM2000 3 роки тому +1

      @@harpysharpy104 Now that's unfortunate. If it serves as any kind of consolation, my country's GP is one of the most feared; every year, at least one team gets robbed lmao

  • @patrickracer43
    @patrickracer43 3 роки тому

    I like Istanbul turn 8's mirrored twin at Circuit of the Americas

  • @girlwithaguitar24
    @girlwithaguitar24 3 роки тому +11

    9:20 "The hypocracy of staging an international motorsports event in a country with a poor recent human rights record"
    [Saudi Arabia would like to know your location]

    • @peterdaviesracing
      @peterdaviesracing 3 роки тому +4

      *Bahrain, Azerbaijan, Russia and UAE are knocking on the door: "OPEN UP!"*

  • @WromWrom
    @WromWrom 3 роки тому +2

    There's a very good rFactor 2 mod that we tested a while ago that - as far as we can see - is not a rip

  • @mcbeaulieu
    @mcbeaulieu 3 роки тому

    In the end, the track resurfacing helped make Turn 8 a real challenge again 🤙🤙

  • @seanslater
    @seanslater 3 роки тому

    Great video as always mate!

  • @elmurcis1
    @elmurcis1 3 роки тому

    Love this track (have it on F1 99-02 with 08' season mod). One crucial point for this track - ElEvAtiOn - that is what makes this track at least good (no matter what cars we have). Very good or great - will see. Also depends on DRS "strategy" on this track - as long as there is similar strength of it on Fast and S/F straight - gonna be fun as last 3 corners really gonna be challenge for rear of some F1 cars (that proves to be pretty tricky to control).

  • @bertakuceru6865
    @bertakuceru6865 3 роки тому +3

    Cool

  • @vjollila96
    @vjollila96 3 роки тому +1

    I might be boring but I think that TBC slot goes to australian gp if/when it gets delayed

  • @Lachm83
    @Lachm83 3 роки тому +2

    If only you could have known about what those final corners would bring

  • @thomastartu9597
    @thomastartu9597 3 роки тому

    Not a bad looking circuit design overall. I think of a very good design by Hermann Tilke. Love turn 8 and really like the back-and-forth turns 12-14 complex.

  • @mihirshah3332
    @mihirshah3332 3 роки тому +2

    8:19 sad Leclerc noises.

  • @Denes2005
    @Denes2005 3 роки тому +6

    You should make super serious track guides instead of slightly serious ones.

    • @SouthPawRacer
      @SouthPawRacer  3 роки тому +14

      SSTGs aren't going anywhere, I'm still working on new ones!

    • @francescocavallo3000
      @francescocavallo3000 3 роки тому +4

      @@SouthPawRacer you should do What you Want😊

    • @nicorosbergf1fan783
      @nicorosbergf1fan783 3 роки тому

      @@SouthPawRacer Maybe the Jeddah Street Circuit will be something to work with, but I'm always open for your choices. You have already covered many tracks that I didn't even know existed, and there must be plenty of other dreadful circuits out there :D

  • @novalmirandy37
    @novalmirandy37 3 роки тому +6

    Don't forget that Tilke designed this track

  • @nicolesgaming8917
    @nicolesgaming8917 3 роки тому +7

    It's okay, but I think Portimao is more deserving of the TBA slot on the 2021 calendar.

    • @sf3166
      @sf3166 3 роки тому

      idk istanbul park always give good racing and easy to control but portimaos will be good for DHL

  • @Jt7166
    @Jt7166 3 роки тому

    Even though turn 8 will be easy flat in modern F1 I love Istanbul. It's wide, has heavy braking, has some banking on the corners a few places to overtake. I'm a fan.

    • @simbiote89
      @simbiote89 3 роки тому

      I think Southpaw has it right, it'll be flat but it won't be easy to be fast in it, especially with the way the cars have been dancing around in P2. I did a LMP2 endurance race here as part of a sim league once and if you got it lined up right it felt like getting shot out of a catapult.

  • @Tauva
    @Tauva 3 роки тому +1

    Do one for Bahrain please!

  • @DicraeoF1
    @DicraeoF1 3 роки тому

    I think you undersold the last complex of Istanbul Park a little. It's not built that way for driver's enjoyment, but in order to create battles with multiple switchback opportunities that last at least until T1 of the circuit. Judging it from a driver's perspective on a hotlap seems like missing the point a little.
    Also, Turn 8 will most likely not be flat-out during the race, when they run through it on heavy fuel.

  • @aw3man_
    @aw3man_ 3 роки тому

    If turn 8 started to tighten after the second apex I think it would be harder and more of a challenge

  • @sharathnair70
    @sharathnair70 3 роки тому +1

    why did tilke get to design so many f1 tracks?
    why didn't other track designers get more tracks?

    • @VGOM2000
      @VGOM2000 3 роки тому +1

      I wish I knew it

  • @StarkRaven59
    @StarkRaven59 3 роки тому

    I miss MotoGP here. They came in, stayed for only a few years, and moved on.

  • @zebzub
    @zebzub 3 роки тому

    here we go again

  • @doktorhund6926
    @doktorhund6926 3 роки тому +1

    it is a tillke drome. but it is everything there is good about tillke dromes.

  • @treycleveland3986
    @treycleveland3986 3 роки тому

    It’s my birthday, and your post is my first present :))))))

  • @iracingfan9304
    @iracingfan9304 3 роки тому

    I MISSED THE VIDEO BY ONE DAY

  • @Nickyy64
    @Nickyy64 3 роки тому +1

    So about taking T8 flat

  • @rusheelgongulur9689
    @rusheelgongulur9689 2 роки тому

    The track is very solid for racing and overtaking. But I'm not a fan of it. Turns 4,5,13 and 14 are my main problems. Though I will still be excited if it becomes a proper fixture of the f1 calender. Looks unlikely though

  • @MMR_LM
    @MMR_LM 3 роки тому

    Perfect timing YT

  • @missaellopez9363
    @missaellopez9363 3 роки тому

    One Tilke goods tracks

  • @peterdaviesracing
    @peterdaviesracing 3 роки тому +1

    Eh... Turkey is okay. Or is it... *looks around* Turkeight, only known for its most famous corner?

  • @dddsss376
    @dddsss376 3 роки тому

    So i don't really know why, but i'm not a Fan of Turn8. For me the last 3 corners on to the Start/Finish straight, remembering the Battle between the Mclaren's, is the highlight on this track for me.

  • @figgyboii
    @figgyboii 3 роки тому +1

    Turkey pog

  • @pedrotrindade6883
    @pedrotrindade6883 3 роки тому +1

    Its 3,6 not great not terrible

  • @juanindojorgijanad782
    @juanindojorgijanad782 2 роки тому

    #TurkishGP in #IstanbulPark (#Turkiye)

  • @thatoneguy7191
    @thatoneguy7191 3 роки тому +1

    You're a little blurry mate xD

    • @SouthPawRacer
      @SouthPawRacer  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah just a bit :( I swear I pulled focus! that issue will be fixed

  • @johndaniels4623
    @johndaniels4623 3 роки тому +1

    1. I blame Webber for the Turkey crash
    2. Am I the only person who likes yas marina these days????

    • @VGOM2000
      @VGOM2000 3 роки тому

      Yes and yes.

    • @SockyNoob
      @SockyNoob 3 роки тому

      Ironically, the shorter layouts of Yas Marina aren't the worst ever.

    • @Walkerthe17
      @Walkerthe17 3 роки тому

      You are absolutely wrong, and yes

  • @jsma9999
    @jsma9999 3 роки тому

    Webber and Vettel 2010 Replay at last turn again .

  • @JJJackson777
    @JJJackson777 3 роки тому

    "What da dawg doin"

  • @alexandermitchell9070
    @alexandermitchell9070 3 роки тому

    Is there any reason why you don’t use Assetto Corsa?

    • @SouthPawRacer
      @SouthPawRacer  3 роки тому +6

      Mainly because I'm more familiar with the camera controls in AMS :P Also that the versions of Istanbul on AC weren't what I was visually looking for.
      I do love the RSS Formula Hybrid though, and it's likely I'll do the next of these videos in AC!

    • @peterdaviesracing
      @peterdaviesracing 3 роки тому

      @@SouthPawRacer
      AC I just don't like as much as AMS, maybe it's some of the mods I can drive on it. I barely used AC although it does have it's moments for me.

  • @kinga711
    @kinga711 3 роки тому +3

    How to ruin a race track: Bathurst

  • @falconfart6671
    @falconfart6671 3 роки тому

    Whats your Favorite Track ?

    • @SockyNoob
      @SockyNoob 3 роки тому

      Texas World Speedway's roval for me.

    • @seanomatopoeia
      @seanomatopoeia 3 роки тому

      @@SockyNoob This was not an answer I expected to see.

  • @EmmieFloding
    @EmmieFloding 3 роки тому +1

    1 view 9 likes noice

  • @wayneconover147
    @wayneconover147 3 роки тому

    good track, just need to get rid of those final corners. or maybe all the corners. the track can be just turn 8. good idea there

  • @avus-kw2f213
    @avus-kw2f213 3 роки тому +1

    The city is not called Istanbul
    It’s called
    Byzantium

    • @peterdaviesracing
      @peterdaviesracing 3 роки тому +1

      Can I call it Constantinople? :D

    • @avus-kw2f213
      @avus-kw2f213 3 роки тому

      @@peterdaviesracing yes

    • @enessahin4775
      @enessahin4775 3 роки тому

      lol it sounds more like a chemical element

    • @EmyrDerfel
      @EmyrDerfel 3 роки тому +1

      I clicked Show more. Was expecting Constantinople.
      I LOL'd.
      Then I winced, as I sprained my back 5 days ago. The lol was worth it though.

  • @adammazurek3829
    @adammazurek3829 3 роки тому

    I know this track was originally designed to be ran clockwise so the “W” at the end of the lap would’ve been the beginning

  • @kimivintoclipz
    @kimivintoclipz 3 роки тому

    You should do a super serious guide to watkins Glen international

    • @SockyNoob
      @SockyNoob 3 роки тому +2

      But Watkins Glen is a good track in all forms.

  • @FunzR32
    @FunzR32 3 роки тому

    Who's the one downvote? uncool

  • @DjDolHaus86
    @DjDolHaus86 3 роки тому

    It doesn't even look like a turkey 3/10

  • @recarsion
    @recarsion 10 місяців тому

    Honestly I think Istanbul is quite an overrated track. Quite forgettable other than turn 8.

  • @Zephirot080
    @Zephirot080 3 роки тому

    I wouldn't say that it is a good track. It's meh at best

  • @andrewpredeth7368
    @andrewpredeth7368 3 роки тому

    It's catalunia

  • @itaysaadon6571
    @itaysaadon6571 3 роки тому

    Please dis a track everyone like
    I wanna see people get triggered

  • @paulfromperth5713
    @paulfromperth5713 3 роки тому

    I remember this track from Race 07. Another awful F1 track. Totally boring. I can’t believe this track was actually “designed”. Put it along side Monza, Hungaroring, Slovakia, Zolder, Brno...all totally mega boring.