Age of Empires II: Age of Kings Campaign - 2.2 Joan of Arc: Maid of Orleans - Part 2

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  • It is a war that has lasted for one hundred years, and the French have lost nearly every battle. Soon the English and their allies in Burgundy will conquer all of France. The heir to the French monarchy is too cowardly to ascend to the throne. The French army is wounded and tired and has given up all hope. But in the darkest hour, a young peasant girl declares that she intends to save France.
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  • @Bloody0range
    @Bloody0range 7 років тому +335

    Good job, you are almost ready for multiplayer :D

  • @dmaxpr
    @dmaxpr 7 років тому +130

    Sir Viper, you played correctly the first attempt, in fact, it was so well played that actually Joan of Arc fell to the ground victim of an archer arrow (from the Castle). Don't feel bad because the game itself failed at your accurate representation of history.

    • @hamsterpoop
      @hamsterpoop 7 років тому +1

      it was the tc

    • @Amar-wg6xp
      @Amar-wg6xp 3 роки тому

      u just had to kill orange and then u win

    • @IschmarVI
      @IschmarVI Рік тому

      yeah, it was very close to historically accurate. With one exception. In real life, the arrow that hit Joan didn't kill her 11

  • @Archande1
    @Archande1 7 років тому +82

    I love that in the end debriefing cutscene, it very nearly described your first attempt where the battle was also won but she was taken out by an arrow.

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  7 років тому +42

      So true 11

    • @Hennu_TRM
      @Hennu_TRM 7 років тому +17

      Yeah Viper is just trying to play the campaign historically accurately.

  • @DarkLight181100
    @DarkLight181100 7 років тому +85

    French is such a nice language... and then comes The Viper :D

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  7 років тому +69

      What's that supposed to mean? >:(

    • @OytheGreat
      @OytheGreat 7 років тому +13

      That you beautify the language even further of course! Merci, mon copain norvégien!

  • @a.b.c.1431
    @a.b.c.1431 5 років тому +21

    "I'm not gonna let the fear of her dying keep me from using her." - TheViper on relationships, 2017

  • @LonelyKnightJ
    @LonelyKnightJ 7 років тому +142

    Pro tip for you Viper:
    Do the stuff the scenario tells you to do.
    Wonder how he'll avoid doing this

    • @Heranara
      @Heranara 7 років тому +17

      Well he didn't really lissen as he plays so fast he didn't hear he should have avoided the burgun(pinkish) scouts in the start. he just went right in.

    • @Sayujya09
      @Sayujya09 7 років тому +1

      Heranara Yeah. Didnt even realise about the transports.

  • @liamdell6319
    @liamdell6319 2 роки тому +6

    This mission often gets memed as being the hardest mission in the game due to how if you're doing the missions in the order that the game presents them, this is the first actual challenge of the game, since prior to this you have the tutorial campaign, and then a simple get character from point a to point b mission. Now suddenly you're surrounded on both sides by two teams with castles and having to manage an economy and protect a certain building while at the same time mustering an army to destroy one of the castles and risk being attacked from behind.

    • @randomness4989
      @randomness4989 Рік тому +1

      My first attempt was halarious on this one,first i never sent the supplies so i had to get the one tree in the base then build a lumber camp and farm with one worker until i stabilized,took me 2h to do lol

  • @ruanvandendolder8394
    @ruanvandendolder8394 7 років тому +50

    i really like that you upload a second attempt even though the first one is good enough as a "walktrough"

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  7 років тому +73

      Oh I'm gonna beat it all!

    • @erensozen791
      @erensozen791 7 років тому +3

      Ruan Van Den Dolder dude, its not a walkthrough, its the adventure of viper

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  7 років тому +52

      It's Viper's toughest AOE2 Challenge to this date!

    • @Cyclopgamingfreaks
      @Cyclopgamingfreaks 7 років тому +3

      You are going to have a very tough time on some of the Barbarossa and Saladin missons

  • @yvngcrispy
    @yvngcrispy 7 років тому +31

    Really looking forward to "the cleansing of the lawyer" 11

    • @o2Tenka
      @o2Tenka 7 років тому +4

      Looks like I'm not the only one who thought he was an entrepeneur

    • @ScottSacred
      @ScottSacred 7 років тому +2

      This made me laugh out loud

  • @xorboogames
    @xorboogames 7 років тому +31

    You did it! You are getting better at this game, Viper! :3

  • @filipstysiak
    @filipstysiak 7 років тому +76

    Using Petards for AoK campaigns is kind of cheating, since they weren't availble in AoK. Need third attempt!

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  7 років тому +69

      11 bitch plez

    • @filipstysiak
      @filipstysiak 7 років тому +1

      En gan til biper!

    • @hamsterpoop
      @hamsterpoop 7 років тому +1

      dooooo it!!!

    • @priyadarshanpandey6532
      @priyadarshanpandey6532 7 років тому

      grass viper

    • @phomjachana
      @phomjachana 6 років тому +2

      well tthere is nothing that can be done about the healing heroes, that makes the 2.5 easier. I think petards are fine.

  • @OytheGreat
    @OytheGreat 7 років тому +6

    "The cleansing of the lawyer"

  • @edwardtung1725
    @edwardtung1725 7 років тому +41

    That never happened 11
    Anyway, really look forward to this series and never mind those ads :)

  • @marcdedouvan
    @marcdedouvan 7 років тому +13

    Joan of Arc is resurrected! It's a miracle!

    • @doragoajeberack6268
      @doragoajeberack6268 7 років тому +5

      The English castle also came back! And was then promptly destroyed again. :D

    • @marcdedouvan
      @marcdedouvan 7 років тому +6

      in fact it is a french castle, stolen by english (^_-)
      in fact i have a doubt: it's the case for the south only perhaps.
      Orléans was surrounded by castles to siege (starve people of the city) easily with less troops.
      I've just verified: only the Tourelles, in continuation of the bridge in fact, was french out of the city occupied by the english who won a first battle before the captain died by a canon ball, the others were built by the english for the siege and were 9 in fact (the real historical map: www.stejeannedarc.net/histoire_wallon/carte_siege_orleans.html )!

    • @crazydog3307
      @crazydog3307 7 років тому +1

      The more you know

  • @TheViperAOE
    @TheViperAOE  7 років тому +73

    How would you guys recommend I present second attempts? I know some will get spoiled now by the fact that it says 2nd attempt, if they didn't see the other one yet, especially as it's posted the day after. What would be the best way to title it etc? Give me some suggestions please!

    • @kristianburys160
      @kristianburys160 7 років тому +21

      Its good just like it is! I dont think people will take spoilers in your campaing matchs

    • @77Relax
      @77Relax 7 років тому +6

      How about you just say 2.2 reupload or fixed.
      Or you post the second attempt for 2.2. (in this example) after 2.3. so that people have had some time to watch the first attempt. Or people should just watch your video's in time :D

    • @timhermens3251
      @timhermens3251 7 років тому +30

      Maybe just remove the scenario's number and name from the title to prevent spoiling the fact you played a scenario more than once and name the video like this: "Age of Empires II: Age of Kings Campaign - - Part ". So this video would be named "Age of Empires II: Age of Kings Campaign - Joan of Arc - Part 3" (this is the third video on the Joan of Arc campaign). Include the scenario number and name in the video's description. Would this work? (or you can just, you know, git gud and complete everything on your first attempt Kappa)

    • @77Relax
      @77Relax 7 років тому +6

      That's also a good suggestion.
      Or you could just do the 2nd attempt in the same video. Upload them together, we'll just wait for the video anyways.

    • @timhermens3251
      @timhermens3251 7 років тому +1

      The only problem is if you quickly want to check the playthrough of a specific scenario in a campaign and you have to take a guess and go through the different parts to find the correct video.

  • @tmdc
    @tmdc 7 років тому +27

    Tip: You can write "How do you turn this on" on chat to get a cobra car to help you!

  • @doragoajeberack6268
    @doragoajeberack6268 7 років тому +8

    Once, I played this scenario and built a lot of castles to restrict the movements of the British, built up my economy and resources, then killed all my villagers and almost all of my military, aside from Joan and that Duke guy, and made a LOT of petards and destroyed all four castles of the British at once. :D

  • @agentlibre5803
    @agentlibre5803 7 років тому +1

    You're right about the AI struggling with tower/wll/castle. One way to use this weakness is to block usual pathways. For example, in this mission, you could have walled the southern bridge, keeping orange out of the play.

  • @AllesZerficKer
    @AllesZerficKer 7 років тому +2

    Watched you Joan campaing video and instantly played three remaining campaing parts and it was fun, its neen year that i played them. Thanks Viper :D

  • @CristoMorelli
    @CristoMorelli 7 років тому

    Nice video, I like that you are using Joan in battles!

  • @zillavanilla6353
    @zillavanilla6353 7 років тому +16

    Wait for 10 more minutes like last time and there would've been more units ;)

  • @TheTopLuca
    @TheTopLuca 7 років тому +2

    keep the uploads coming Viper , love your videos !! Great work , thanks.

  • @genevievew.5837
    @genevievew.5837 5 років тому

    Old video but you brought up ads here
    you are one of about 10 UA-camrs whose ads I always watch through. keep up the good vids :)

  • @proggie-kun6304
    @proggie-kun6304 7 років тому

    Good job!

  • @PartialViewmusic
    @PartialViewmusic 7 років тому +1

    I really agree with what you said in the beginning about viewers sharing tips about how to beat a level.
    If you do it yourself without any help it will be much more entertaining both for you and for us viewers.
    Seeing a 2k4 voobly player beating (well, at least trying to 11, referring to last video) the campaigns all on your own is great fun!

  • @erensozen791
    @erensozen791 7 років тому +2

    gg pal, waiting for the next episode, i dont really mind ads and love that sellout part lol

  • @isanarditama
    @isanarditama 7 років тому +1

    Thanks, i need this so i can follow how you finish this campaign :D

  • @lollylegsgruff
    @lollylegsgruff 7 років тому

    Great vid man, best channel on the whole wide UA-cam

  • @radu2005ytb
    @radu2005ytb 7 місяців тому

    11:23 lucky guy...

  • @DrSavage101
    @DrSavage101 7 років тому +5

    I swear you changed the volume at that exact same point in the beginning of the last attempt. Some Deja Vu right there.

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  7 років тому

      11 Maybe you're right

    • @Zek95
      @Zek95 7 років тому +1

      Jake Mikelelelele noticed same thing lol

    • @berkevural2951
      @berkevural2951 7 років тому +2

      Jake Mikelelelele and he changed the exact same amount of volume

  • @doragoajeberack6268
    @doragoajeberack6268 7 років тому

    Viper, if you ever get into a situation in which Joan is threatened to be killed by castle or arrow fire with ballistics, you can still avoid the shots if you move her in the opposite direction as soon as the arrows leave the castle. It's almost impossible to pull off in multiplayer and kinda difficult if there are multiple sources firing out of sync, but it could get her out of a tough situation, and it's better than just freaking out and fruitlessly trying to run her away, in my opinion. I like to do this in the campaigns a lot because a lot of the scenarios are ripe for cheesing, although my style tends to take longer. xD

  • @karlspel
    @karlspel 7 років тому

    at the height of the battle, joan was hit by a castle, we could not believe our misfortune.
    the ending of the campain was ahead of u viper, lmao

  • @DanielA-ru2eo
    @DanielA-ru2eo 6 років тому

    Definitely send Joan with the cavarly!

  • @trevorWilkinson
    @trevorWilkinson 7 років тому +1

    Last video I commented that my tactic as a kid was to mass petards... I didn't expect you to do it. I always felt it was kind of cheap cos the campaign was from age of kings and petards only came in the conquerors expansion. But up to you.

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  7 років тому

      Petards are always a good chose to break walls or damage buildings, so you were clever in your younger days ;)

    • @trevorWilkinson
      @trevorWilkinson 7 років тому

      Also, Strat for next map. Don't leave the starting island. That's what I used to do in my younger days. Only gold my trading with enemy dock and stuff haha.

    • @kingsarues1586
      @kingsarues1586 7 років тому

      mass petards is best strat as most of the campaigns disable the best seige the Ai also ignores them

  • @freaksuyash
    @freaksuyash 7 років тому

    Half the time I watch your stuff on my phone. Adds do run then, but not while I watching on my PC, or Mac.

  • @TheDocValerian
    @TheDocValerian 7 років тому

    Great stuff :D You make it almost look easy 11 ;)

  • @hxhky
    @hxhky 7 років тому

    Been watching some classic game speed runs, and inspired by the Viper's campaign play, you guys should do an AOE/AOC campaign speed run tournament as well !!!!

  • @CiliophoraEuplotes
    @CiliophoraEuplotes 7 років тому +1

    You see? Joan prophesized that she would be wounded in battle, it means that she prophesized that you'd lose your first try :)

  • @T0RcH314
    @T0RcH314 7 років тому +1

    Hey Viper! Great vid as always,you have my full support as well but especially here on YT,its great having this many vids here as it is quite rare I can tune in to your streams unfortunately. My suggestion to this first try and whatever things is to just save the game every now and then,and we could still have a long episode without you maybe failing and retrying again and again,as I'm sure you have limited time as well. So somehow with just saving the game you could spare yourself some time and we could still enjoy the campaign in my opinion.
    Have a great day man! Looking forward to the next one!

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  7 років тому +1

      Hey, thanks for the suggestion!
      My plan is to do a second attempt from the beginning if I fail the first attempt, but should I fail a second time, I will probably save and start it from a later point where the struggles begin, and take it from there.

    • @T0RcH314
      @T0RcH314 7 років тому

      Ok, sounds good. Looking forward to the next ones!

  • @Basssiiie
    @Basssiiie 7 років тому

    I just noticed the Afsluitdijk (built in like the 1930s) is visible on the campaign map.. :p

  •  7 років тому

    The best thing to do this is a MaA-Pike-Ram spam, but I guess it's too advanced of a strategy.

  • @prankishsquire2663
    @prankishsquire2663 7 років тому

    This is awesome, break a leg!

  • @kln5705
    @kln5705 4 роки тому

    Never go full petard

  • @MiguelOliveira87
    @MiguelOliveira87 7 років тому

    This time was much easier because you didn't strike through the gate. That way, you were being attacked by units from both castles/bases, and drew units from the castle on the right to come attack you as well. You also took a bit more time to attack last time, so they amassed more units.

  • @nathanhawthorne2889
    @nathanhawthorne2889 7 років тому

    Thank you for the good content. That's all.

  • @DamkzMusic
    @DamkzMusic 7 років тому

    Awesome that you can do this for a living, you deserve it though !

  • @Lgg130
    @Lgg130 7 років тому +1

    in a way, it's a good thing you lost already because now the first loss is out of the way ;) remember to have fun while playing these and don't worry about losing here and there.

  • @ageofnumbersyt8557
    @ageofnumbersyt8557 7 років тому

    #clearly a new player

  • @ELETRIKDOG001
    @ELETRIKDOG001 7 років тому +8

    biper you are such a nice person :3
    w toplo

  • @Player-px1jq
    @Player-px1jq 7 років тому

    Thank you for the videos. And by the way yes the adds are all skipable :-)

  • @TattooedDancer91
    @TattooedDancer91 7 років тому +7

    @tyrant_theviper NO, thank YOU for the videos :)

  • @juniorraya1023
    @juniorraya1023 7 років тому +1

    Just curious Viper, have u ever played campaigns before? i mean, when u started to play AoE ?
    Keep the good work, love these vids

  • @noxious8
    @noxious8 7 років тому

    The castle in south-east looks like to be easy killed with a counter-castle.

  • @Sids1192
    @Sids1192 7 років тому

    Of course just as he mentions the ads, mine cut to an ad.

  • @akshittripathi5403
    @akshittripathi5403 7 років тому

    Hey Viper, you might want to avoid petards if you want to be suuuper strict about getting the "true" experience in the AoK campaigns :P They were introduced in the Conquerors

  • @fabiorulez10
    @fabiorulez10 7 років тому

    good job man! slow slow you learn to play this game! 11

  • @AwakeIntoLight
    @AwakeIntoLight 7 років тому

    Glad to hear I can somehow help, since I don't run add block! It is good that you let us know once in a while how we can help :)

  • @foundedking6864
    @foundedking6864 7 років тому

    "oh shi, that never happened"

  • @24Eagle11
    @24Eagle11 7 років тому

    The reason why it was easier this time is because you finally decided not to attack the gate and fight underneath 5+ towers xD Also, maybe more units were coming from the northeast base since you were close to it the first time as well. Oh yeah, you destroyed a tower too.

  • @AtelierLaoshi
    @AtelierLaoshi 7 років тому +1

    I use adblock but i share your videos with friends and laugh at all the mistakes you do. Last video made us all really happy. Am i helping?

  • @maistromann136
    @maistromann136 7 років тому +5

    I turn off my adblock just for The Viper.

  • @justinisenberg1841
    @justinisenberg1841 3 роки тому +1

    I'm here because I got spanked in this scenario by the DE ai.
    Watching this, the ai is far more passive.

  • @HikingInLatvia
    @HikingInLatvia 7 років тому +9

    I will take the time to disable adblock on your videos. Keep up the good work and enjoy the game. :) Greetings from Latvia.

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  7 років тому +6

      Cheers, really appreciate that! :)

  • @daanclaessen7013
    @daanclaessen7013 6 років тому

    ka-fee-dral

  • @marcdedouvan
    @marcdedouvan 7 років тому +1

    So it was basically the siege castle on siege castles strat? (^_-)
    Too bad there was no canon or trebuchet on this scenario again while it was in real history!

  • @agenericaccount3819
    @agenericaccount3819 7 років тому

    He never finds the boats does he?

  • @mkaali
    @mkaali 7 років тому

    19:13 *TheViper prophesied that Joan would be wounded

  • @blindinglights02
    @blindinglights02 7 років тому

    Check out OMD, Joan of arc. Awesome song. Be good to play it over this vid. 😊

  • @Desh282
    @Desh282 7 років тому

    Isn't there a version where all the expansion technologies are included in the campaign? I saw it in the steam zone

  • @TheChimples
    @TheChimples 7 років тому

    The Viper destroyed the AI this time. And also the French language. And the English word cathedral. :p

  • @IsmailSezgin53
    @IsmailSezgin53 7 років тому

    you should have built a wall in the south and the archers behind it ... it would stop the knights from the south

  • @marcdedouvan
    @marcdedouvan 7 років тому +3

    "oi" is pronounced: "oa" in french, just for info (i hope the narrator with the strange french accent will pronounced it correctly).

  • @dovasquad5228
    @dovasquad5228 3 роки тому

    So viper. I've seen you these days and know that you are the best #1 aoe2 player in the world, so I gotta ask, when did you start playing aoe2? I've seen a lot of the comments and you yourself said you were "new at this" so did you only start your rise to top player 3 years ago? For one, I didn't know that, for 2, to already be the best after a few years of playing, you rock! You really are the best I've seen you play and you are on another level to everyone else. I see the skill gap and its ridiculous! You make pros look like normal level.

  • @ebblis07
    @ebblis07 6 років тому

    What about a little bit of "howdoyouturnthisthingon"?

  • @michaelcross7665
    @michaelcross7665 7 років тому +8

    It was harder last time just because you took a lot longer what with the early attack and not focusing on building up eco/gold mine problems

    • @1Abyssal
      @1Abyssal 7 років тому +1

      A lot of that was really bad campaign memory methinks; he would have won if he pulled Joan away when he noticed she was getting attacked.

    • @michaelcross7665
      @michaelcross7665 7 років тому

      Christian Eddings he would have yes, just pointing out why it was harder last time/why they had more units

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  7 років тому +2

      Makes sense!

  • @Marmar90m
    @Marmar90m 7 років тому

    No thank you for the videos Viper!!

  • @AndreasFjordstig
    @AndreasFjordstig 7 років тому

    So much salt! xD

  • @xmfcx
    @xmfcx 7 років тому

    So Viper can actually win against Standard AI after all!

  • @westonricher6550
    @westonricher6550 7 років тому +3

    So, what happens when you get to the first ethiopians mission and it takes 10+ tries to complete? Will you upload all 10 tries in separate videos, will you combine all of them together, will you make it only one video and just show clips from each try, or will you only upload the one where you win?

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  7 років тому +3

      I'm not sure, I'll probably record a bit ahead once I get deeper in, so I should be able to come up with a solution if it takes a lot of tries then.

  • @Wtf_is_this_handle_thing_YT
    @Wtf_is_this_handle_thing_YT 7 років тому

    Not sure if this question has been asked already, but will you be doing the campaigns from all expansions?

  • @liquidvoid9361
    @liquidvoid9361 7 років тому

    In my opinion South British are easier to deal with because they make knights and rams instead of archers, mangonels and infantry.

  • @Elsodal01
    @Elsodal01 7 років тому

    As a french, I facepalm myslef everytime you fail at saying properly a french word, medal go on your "Loire" hahaha
    Good stuff anyway, hopefully there was a 2nd attempt :D

  • @chaar5762
    @chaar5762 7 років тому

    there is a mod in HD that let play with 200 pop instead of 75

  • @MrThomasappel
    @MrThomasappel 7 років тому

    Just a tip: if you type 'how do you turn this on' in chat, you get a KOBRA car that shoots bullets. I think it'll go a lot faster that way. Yw

  • @brothir
    @brothir 7 років тому +5

    It's pronounced "Ka-thee-dral"

  • @gusr7513
    @gusr7513 7 років тому

    I didn't know that you had ads, from now on I'll have the adblock disabled on youtube. ;)

  • @mu5ic1
    @mu5ic1 7 років тому

    Cathédral ;)

  • @ebblis07
    @ebblis07 6 років тому

    I think the AI should be ranked for a world Tournament!

  • @Porglit
    @Porglit 7 років тому

    Just for information purposes,
    cathEEdral
    peTARd
    Thanks for your great videos ^_^

  • @crusadehs4248
    @crusadehs4248 7 років тому

    #clearlynewstill :D

  • @karlspel
    @karlspel 7 років тому +1

    i never skip adds.. or i dont use add block.. cause i cant be fucked.. so your welcome xD

  • @MN-rz7wi
    @MN-rz7wi 7 років тому

    you should always upload both also the second attempt is easier

  • @kasasPoxo
    @kasasPoxo 7 років тому +1

    Using 75 pop is overrated

  • @santiagobrening4067
    @santiagobrening4067 7 років тому +2

    I know that there are very easy ways to beat mission , but the tips i commented were more like help for the map that one should use but the game doesn't tell you , im sorry viper i'll just watch and be quiet :)

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  7 років тому +1

      No it's fine, normal regular tips, what I meant were the cheese strats that will lead to easy wins and just abuse of the AI in some ways.

    • @o2Tenka
      @o2Tenka 7 років тому

      Vipah never saw the docks on the river!

  • @hamsterpoop
    @hamsterpoop 7 років тому

    lawyer

  • @mohamdaoui1
    @mohamdaoui1 7 років тому

    I haven't watched yet, but 20 minutes now ! last time was 30 and you lost, hmmmmmmmmm

  • @ethanwhitney9435
    @ethanwhitney9435 7 років тому

    Lue waur

    • @ethanwhitney9435
      @ethanwhitney9435 7 років тому

      is the proper pronunciation if you want to know. It's a river that runs through Paris france im quite sure.

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  7 років тому

      I figured it out eventually, thanks! :)

  • @filipstysiak
    @filipstysiak 7 років тому +1

    Just a heads up for the rest of the campaigns, your starting units are NOT affected by the upgrades, at least that's what I remember from playing them. Don't know if it was changed for HD

    • @darkthiefdarek6459
      @darkthiefdarek6459 7 років тому +1

      I think only Gaia units you obtain during the game aren't affected. The starting units of your own civ should get updates.

    • @OytheGreat
      @OytheGreat 7 років тому +2

      Yeah, your starting units do get upgrades. It's the ones you get from other civs, like Gaia or by conversion, that do not get upgrades. I expected Viper to know this TBH; if you convert enemy units they do not get upgrades if you research them. Maybe he rarely ever does that in the competitive scene.

    • @tomscorpion6288
      @tomscorpion6288 7 років тому

      It's further complicated by the fact that you sometimes get units which you cannot build or upgrade that far. But generally speaking the above is true.

    • @TheViperAOE
      @TheViperAOE  7 років тому +1

      I know about this from when I played some scenarios some years back, so I knew about it, but I like to double check :D

  • @canadian__ninja
    @canadian__ninja 7 років тому

    pronounced Cath- ee- drawl ;)