Dual Longplay [24] Dead or Alive (Sega Saturn vs Playstation) Side by Side Comparison

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  • @christopherwalkinalloverya5824
    @christopherwalkinalloverya5824 7 років тому +153

    Both games use different art styles and rendering techniques, but both look very good. Saturn has better backgrounds, while PS has more natural looking characters and shading. I like them both and no matter which version you had it was fun!

    • @TS-yz3ud
      @TS-yz3ud 6 років тому +4

      More natural?

    • @konstantinmfs2744
      @konstantinmfs2744 5 років тому +20

      @@TS-yz3ud he meant that the shadows/lightning effects on PS1 are better.

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 3 роки тому +3

      In some ways it's like comparing the Dreamcast version of Dead or Alive 2 to Dead or Alive Hardcore

    • @christopherwalkinalloverya5824
      @christopherwalkinalloverya5824 3 роки тому +8

      @@TS-yz3ud By "natural" I mean the skin tones and shading on the characters is more realistic on the PS1. I believe gouraud shading is the technique used on the PS1 to achieve better color blending.

    • @TS-yz3ud
      @TS-yz3ud 3 роки тому +4

      @@christopherwalkinalloverya5824 Don't worry, I got you. The characters' faces look more detailed in the Saturn version as well.

  • @carlx8409
    @carlx8409 5 років тому +28

    I remember playing this game on my PSX and I was blown away by the graphics, and smooth and natural movements. Even the fingers were very detailed, while many games from that era had the fingers just "drawn" on the hand. Not to mention the perfect balance between realism and anime-like designs.
    I watch it today and it still looks great, that's how good it is.

    • @BeeLy1011
      @BeeLy1011 4 роки тому +3

      Yeah, DOA's always had an impressive habit of having graphics that still hold up years later. The only game I'd say looks somewhat dated is this one, and even then it isn't that bad.

    • @curtiswilson4737
      @curtiswilson4737 3 роки тому +5

      Nah, go to the Saturn, and the experience turns into a damn near arcade perfect port.

    • @Love-Sensibility
      @Love-Sensibility Рік тому +4

      ​@@curtiswilson4737Both. Both is good

    • @imafreakinninja12
      @imafreakinninja12 Рік тому

      Yes, when I see characters get blown up 20 feet in the air, the first thing I think of is realism.

    • @carlx8409
      @carlx8409 Рік тому +1

      @@imafreakinninja12 that's so clever, congratulations!

  • @SDSOverfiend
    @SDSOverfiend 8 років тому +28

    Saturn Hi Res sold me.. PSX has zoomed in cleaner models due to lighting tricks...but Sega speed is just on time..

  • @hababacon
    @hababacon 8 років тому +77

    Saturn because it's more arcade like, looks to be drawing more polygons as well. The lighting on the PS1 looks damn good, but the mostly photo backgrounds was a turn off in my opinion. I actually had the PS1 version and was confused as hell about 30 minutes after I popped the game disc. DOA on the PS1 was nothing like it's back cover, a bit of false advertisement in my opinion, oh well.

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 4 роки тому +5

      it's not a bad game anyway

    • @hababacon
      @hababacon 4 роки тому +3

      @@ciredecgellar8232 I enjoyed DOA on PS1 but didn't get the real arcade experience until many years later.

    • @BurritoKingdom
      @BurritoKingdom 2 роки тому

      The PlayStation version has more polygons on Kasumi's boobs than the Saturn version. They put the concentration of graphics on different aspects. With the PlayStation putting most of the resources on the characters especially the breasts.

  • @RazorEdgeBullie
    @RazorEdgeBullie 8 років тому +150

    God the Saturn was such a great system. My favorite of all time. Wrongfully underrated.

    • @Mechakick
      @Mechakick 7 років тому +9

      I don't know if I can definitively say the Saturn is my favorite system, but it does have an absolutely incredible game library, the best controller of all time, arguably the best RPG of all time and easily the best multi-player game of all time!!!

    • @retroboy-fh1ji
      @retroboy-fh1ji 7 років тому +18

      True. Saturn is awesome. I prefer play PS1/SAT games than PS4/ XBOX ONE shit.

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 6 років тому

      amen !

    • @justinfitzpatrick013
      @justinfitzpatrick013 5 років тому

      G1 what RPG?

    • @TreiskadekDevil
      @TreiskadekDevil 5 років тому +4

      @@justinfitzpatrick013 probably a little late on this, but im pretty sure hes referring to panzer dragoon saga.

  • @reallybigmistake
    @reallybigmistake 4 роки тому +16

    I loved how back in the day console hardware was so different that you could get different looking ports

  • @LeftyPem
    @LeftyPem 3 роки тому +13

    One of the rare Saturn titles to be programmed taking full advantage of the dual SH2 cpu configuration.

  • @MastermindAtWork
    @MastermindAtWork 4 роки тому +36

    The ones on the PS1 and Saturn are based on two different arcade versions. Saturn's was from the Original Model 2 release while the PS1 was based of the Sony ZN-1 release

    • @vasopel
      @vasopel 3 роки тому +8

      Dead or Alive (original) 1996 Arcade Sega Model 2
      released in 1997 for Sega Saturn
      Dead or Alive ++ (update) 1998 Arcade Sony ZN-1 (almost the same system as the PS1)
      released in 1998 for the PS1

    • @PhirePhlame
      @PhirePhlame 6 місяців тому +1

      The PS and ZN-1 versions are the other way around. The PS version came out in March 1998 (in Japan) while the Japan-only ZN-1 version came out months later, in October.

    • @MastermindAtWork
      @MastermindAtWork 6 місяців тому +1

      @@PhirePhlame I always assumed the Arcade release usually comes out before the console version. That would usually happens back then. Thanks for informing me.

  • @kaox44
    @kaox44 6 років тому +30

    So the PS1 version has the cool lighting and Saturn has the 3D background. I pick the full 3D background. Saturn wins.

    • @segaunited3855
      @segaunited3855 6 років тому +4

      PS1 version looks horrible. Large Affines, no Diffusion or Multi Bending. And Deformed Character Models.

    • @j.c.s7762
      @j.c.s7762 4 роки тому +1

      ps1 wins

  • @TheToyBoy1978
    @TheToyBoy1978 8 років тому +53

    when you watch these side by side comparisons it just shows that the difference between these machines arnt as big as some make out and the saturn actually wins out in many of them

    • @sonyx4500
      @sonyx4500 7 років тому +21

      the gaming toy boy The Saturn was actually more powerful. It was just difficult to programm because of its complicate architecture.

    • @NiGHTS1980
      @NiGHTS1980 6 років тому +16

      When in the right hands, the Saturn was amazing.

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 6 років тому +6

      It's exactly what i always say. Both system are different and manage 3D games with different priority. PS1 is confortable with lightning, gouraud shading and so one, Saturn use Ram and 2D performances to manage better deeper background, 3D elements, better resolution etc. It's a difference of 3D render, not a question of power. Peoples who say that lightning and special graphics effects is the only things importants in 3D render are just stupid ignorants ...

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 6 років тому +5

      PS1's Lighting Effects are gimmicky anyway. Its nothing more than Low Key Illumination and Screen Filtering for Half Transparency Effects.
      People who claim the PS1 version looks better are deluded. the Saturn version looks FAR sharper with Smooth Perspective Correction, Flawless Bit Mapping, Texture Layering, Proper Affine Plane Drawing, with BETTER Resolution and Multi threading.
      Besides that, Sony sucked at actual TRUE Transparency effects. TT&L is TRUE Lighting. And wasn't first introduced until Model 3, 3Dfx, Dreamcast. Hell the PS2 couldn't even do TT&L but the Dreamcast(Software Wise),Voodoo 2 AND Xbox and GameCube/Stargate could handle TT&L.

    • @HumorousLOL
      @HumorousLOL 6 років тому +11

      It actually doesn't. It's a known fact that Saturn is weaker in 3D ability than PS1. Technically, it's a superior 2D machine, but weak in 3D. Fighting games aren't exactly difficult to create and make them look aesthetically pleasing. Racing games are the same way, which is why they are used often to showcase console ability. Fact is, if you play a game like Tomb Raider on PS1 then play it on Saturn, it's easy to see how much better the PS1 version is.

  • @zombiegrant
    @zombiegrant 7 років тому +51

    psx version looks like a remake, big diference on 3d characters models and nice shadows, saturn is more like original but i prefer the psx version.

    • @euripidoeuropoide5943
      @euripidoeuropoide5943 5 років тому +6

      PSx version is 1998
      Saturn is 1997

    • @ItsOnlySmellz
      @ItsOnlySmellz 5 років тому +10

      Saturn version: 60fps. PSX version: 30fps, AND lower resolution.

    • @segaunited3855
      @segaunited3855 5 років тому +4

      @@ItsOnlySmellz PS1 version looks horrible. Large Affines, no Diffusion or Multi Bending. And Deformed Character Models.

    • @kekutougame
      @kekutougame 5 років тому +12

      @@ItsOnlySmellz ...what? The PSX version runs at 60fps and a higher render resolution. I don't know if you've even watched the video.

    • @Rotoid
      @Rotoid 5 років тому +3

      @@kekutougame they're just trolls or crazy sega fanatics, nevermind.

  • @greensun1334
    @greensun1334 11 місяців тому +2

    Both versions have their pros and contras. The PS1 game has accurate shadows and more realistic looking movements, while the Saturn version used just circles as shadows, but it has more detail in the backgrounds.

  • @shionneimeris1213
    @shionneimeris1213 5 років тому +8

    To give more insight on the vastly different visuals between arcade/Sega Saturn and Playstation 1, the arcade and Sega Saturn version of DOA1 runs on a Sega made engine graphics wise. So when Team Ninja/Tecmo was bringing DOA1 to the PS1, they had to re-make it in a different engine. So yes, if you were to play the Sega Saturn (or Xbox version), you'd be getting an experience closer to the arcades in terms of the original released version of DOA!. Dead or Alive++ is another arcade version of DOA1 which is based on the PS1 version.

    • @segat-800
      @segat-800 4 роки тому +3

      The Arcade game ran on Model 2. That's totally different to the Sega Saturn hardware. The developers were third party. Not sure what your point was.

    • @BurritoKingdom
      @BurritoKingdom 2 роки тому +4

      Yes. But both the Model 2 and Saturn used quads as their primitives, while the PlayStation and every other modern consoles\PC-GPU uses triangles. Completely new 3D characters models had to be recreated during the porting process. While the conversion from Model 2 to Saturn would mostly be a reduction in quads.
      Sega decided to go with quads because the Model 1 used quads. I believe even the model 3 used quads, it wasn't until the Dreamcast that Sega switched to triangles.
      Quads are only better at making flat, cubed or rectangular objects but to create anything with curves triangles are better. The GPUs that Model 1 was derived from were originally used for simulations of jets, which is why they used quads.

    • @marcmallaby1181
      @marcmallaby1181 Рік тому +6

      Both games are actually different games using similar assets. Tecmo during the 90's had their own arcade hardware, but for Dead or Alive, they released it on SEGA's Model 2. This was because they were able to negotiate the VF2 Source code/engine, actually getting AM2's code for both Model 2 and Saturn. When deciding to port to PS1 they obviously could use this code (for many obvious reasons), so the PS1 version was built on the early test code for Dead or Alive 2, which was planned initially for release on Model 3 (though without any SEGA supplied source/engine). This port would then see a release on Tecmo's own 3D arcade board the TPS (Tecmo Play System, a modified SONY-ZN1 arcade board). Supposedly they used Namco development example code and borrowed code from Arika to speed up development of the PS1/TPS version, which is why the Saturn/Model 2 version appears in Ultimate as they were unable to negotiate with Namco, Capcom and Arika to rerelease their partial code on Xbox. So yeah, DoA on PS1 isn't a port of DoA on Saturn, but another game you could call Dead or Alive 1.5 whose code is closer to DoA2 than it is to DoA1.

  • @danielv9574
    @danielv9574 7 років тому +36

    the Saturn version is much nearer to arcade...exellent port on saturn.Is an example if good coders use the hardware..everything is cool on saturn...look Lobotomy games too

    • @Rotoid
      @Rotoid 5 років тому +7

      Who cares about "being nearer to arcade" if PS1 version looks much better.

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 5 років тому +13

      @@Rotoid indeed, but since this is not the case.

    • @ShutUpAndListen79
      @ShutUpAndListen79 5 років тому +5

      @@Rotoid because you base how good a console port is by how close it is to the arcade machine. It has always been that way. As arcade versions of games back then were always superior to the console port.

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 5 років тому +4

      @@ShutUpAndListen79yep especially when it's an arcade port, sounds logic ...

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 4 роки тому +2

      @the simplekz but so many did anyway ....

  • @tetsuokenpachi
    @tetsuokenpachi 8 років тому +9

    I have to say, my favorite character in the entire franchise is Ayane... but the Saturn version is just a much better game in my opinion. Both visually and in terms of gameplay because the "danger zones" make you able to perform the most devastating combos. Also, DOA, because it makes you able to counter every single move even during a combo, is by far my favorite fighting games franchise of all time. For once in a fighting game, you don't just wait until the combo is over to be able to play again... That's huge!

    • @wesley10pro
      @wesley10pro 7 місяців тому

      My favorite too. I loved playing with him in Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2

  • @AMREPRESENTACIONES
    @AMREPRESENTACIONES 7 років тому +40

    Both are very good versions but wow,with Saturn u feels more arcade playing! 😍

    • @curtiswilson4737
      @curtiswilson4737 3 роки тому +3

      The Saturn was the arcade version. Look at the floor movement on the Saturn vs the PlayStation, the Saturn mimicks the arcade to the T, but the PlayStation version backgrounds are flat, cause that system doesn't have independent scrolling like the Saturn, so they made it up with the shading, however, they severely lost the hi resolution mode, where the Saturn has it, and it's clearly shown.

  • @SEGAHEADDY
    @SEGAHEADDY 8 років тому +21

    This comparison is WAY BETTER than the DOA comparison Gaming Palooza Empire released a little bit ago.

    • @RazorEdgeBullie
      @RazorEdgeBullie 8 років тому +4

      Agreed, that guy is obviously trying to make the ps1 look heaps better than Saturn, it's pathetic and maddening.

    • @The-Fishkeeper
      @The-Fishkeeper 8 років тому +1

      Oh yes!

  • @drunkensailor112
    @drunkensailor112 7 років тому +9

    According to doa's creator and director he considers the saturn version the best version ever made.

  • @GMMXX80
    @GMMXX80 7 років тому +27

    Really no comparison. Itagaki-san LOVED the Saturn. While everyone else was crying, he said it wasn't too bad. He stated there were other consoles far more difficult to develop for. This wasn't a breeze by any means, but not the most challenging for him. He said the same of the PS3. Oh SEGA Saturn, infinite planes. No texture shifting like the PlayStation version either and far better to control on the Saturn controller.

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 4 роки тому +8

      Many developers actually liked working on Saturn, Lobotomy, Kenji Eno, Game Arts and ESP developers etc. Because even if indeed the architecture of the Saturn is less homogeneous than that of the PS1, it also left much more freedom to developers who could themselves create their tools and their programming routines. In fact, many Saturn games just couldn't be converted properly on PS1.

    • @TheTrueBro
      @TheTrueBro 4 роки тому +1

      PS3? He favored the X360 back in the day when he was still at Team Ninja. He didn't directly work in any PS3 game (NG Sigma 1 and 2 were directed by Hayashi, who toned down a lot of things).

    • @mightyhadi6132
      @mightyhadi6132 3 роки тому

      @@ciredecgellar8232 That's not many, and also Saturn is not difficult but PS1 is just much easy to develop.

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 3 роки тому

      @@mightyhadi6132 most Saturn games that use VDP2, and there are a lot of them.

    • @mightyhadi6132
      @mightyhadi6132 3 роки тому

      @@ciredecgellar8232 There a lot yes but not much and we can count by finger. Saturn has difficulty on using transparency on 3D due to developer having difficulty to make VDP2 accessing the RAM . This is common knowledge

  • @ts1093
    @ts1093 8 років тому +17

    A versão do Saturn é incrivelmente competente. Os cenários são espetaculares; tanto os lutadores quanto o cenário estão no modo de alta resolução do Saturn, e ainda roda a 60 quadros por segundo. Se isso não é atingir a perfeição técnica no Saturn, nada mais é.
    O port para Playstation é bom também, mas perde em cenários (todos muito simples e sem graça) e em quadros por segundo (apenas 30). Em compensação, tem mais roupas para os personagens.
    Fico com a versão do Saturn.

    • @BolaGatoPraOntem
      @BolaGatoPraOntem 6 років тому +1

      pelo q vi na gameplay é q realmente a do saturno é superior a do ps1, tbm por mais detales nos personagens, cenários melhores, etc. O q ficou melhor no PS1 foi a nitidez dos personagens, as sombrar e as luzes e dizem nos comentários q o ps1 tem comandos ruins comparados aos do sega saturno

    • @sinister8739
      @sinister8739 2 роки тому +5

      PSX tbm roda a 60fps

    • @fabio78
      @fabio78 Рік тому +1

      Fala bonito, mas esse olho amador que nao ve claramente que as duas versoes estao rodando a 60fps mesmo lado-a-lado, Jesus...

  • @bondosho
    @bondosho 6 років тому +6

    Is the Saturn version using the Virtua Fighter 2 engine?

  • @RandomJtv
    @RandomJtv 7 років тому +4

    I liked how much smoother the PS version was, but preferred that the Saturn version at least attempted to keep the look and feel of the arcade version.

  • @whoohaaXL
    @whoohaaXL 2 роки тому +4

    A comparison of steep slope sliders on Saturn and Trick'n snowboarder (also known as tricky sliders in Japan) on the PS1 would be a great video.

  • @DTM-Books
    @DTM-Books 6 років тому +15

    Each version plays to its system's strengths, and which one you prefer is really just a matter of personal taste. Do you prefer shading and lighting effects? Then go with Sony. Do you prefer sharp 480-resolution? Go with Sega. It sucks that the Saturn version was never released in the US, but the prozines would have bashed it for not looking as "pretty" as the Playstation version and it probably wouldn't have sold many copies. That's too bad, because it's one of the best looking games for the system.

    • @ITTCcup
      @ITTCcup 6 років тому +1

      saturno wins

    • @lazarushernandez5827
      @lazarushernandez5827 6 років тому

      It would've probably done just fine over here, the play mechanics were very similar to Virtua Fighter(except every character had counters) and it came out the year before(Oct 1997) the Playstation version(Mar 1998).
      One of the import shops had the Japanese Saturn version of the game which I promptly picked up.

    • @ITTCcup
      @ITTCcup 6 років тому

      kkkkk leaves of mi mi, saturn version even having lacquer before is superior to the play in graphics and sound, final point, is not that of taste not saturn version won admits when aproducer of games knew to use the power of saturn the play did not have chance this is the truth.

    • @bizarroeddie1
      @bizarroeddie1 6 років тому +1

      your english sucks.

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 3 роки тому

      You have to get dead or Alive 2 Ultimate to play the Saturn version. The graphics still look good. Temco games in general are timeless.

  • @DTM-Books
    @DTM-Books 4 роки тому +8

    Which one you prefer is really a matter of personal taste. If you prefer the lighty-glowy effects, go with PSX. If you prefer crisp arcade visuals, go with Saturn. I personally prefer the Saturn for its higher polygon models and sharp 480/60 display. Between this game and Go Go Goal, you can see how Tecmo mastered the system's hardware better than almost anyone. The excessive lighting and shading effects, combined with a notably lower poly count on the models, makes the Playstation version feel more dated in my eyes. Mind you, I was never a big fan of that look, so it's probably just me. Everybody else loved the lighty-glowy look and had to cram it into every videogame.

    • @j.c.s7762
      @j.c.s7762 3 роки тому +1

      Is the ps1 version 30fps?

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 Рік тому +1

      "Excessive shading and lighting" XD "Notably lower polygon count" XD
      Saturn fanboys are truly comedic, theyre literal clowns XD

    • @JaimeValladares00
      @JaimeValladares00 Рік тому

      @@jhkuno88 Typical PS1 fanboy trying to cope with the fact that the Saturn can do more than it’s able to. You’re beyond pathetic, of course you all have no shame in being braindead

    • @JaimeValladares00
      @JaimeValladares00 Рік тому

      @@jhkuno88Respond coward

    • @SonySupporter
      @SonySupporter 8 місяців тому +2

      @@j.c.s7762 No. It's 60fps.

  • @japanis1382
    @japanis1382 5 років тому +7

    Saturn version all day long

  • @WWammyy
    @WWammyy 7 років тому +11

    The lighting included in the PS1 games makes the character models definitely look better in the PS1 game but I don't like the backgrounds and the fact it's not like the MODEL 2 Arcade version which also didn't include light sourcing. So this makes the Saturn game for me the winner since it is much closer to the Arcade original

    • @segaunited3855
      @segaunited3855 6 років тому +2

      The PSX version looks very UGLY and Spastic. This is due to PSX's biggest problem in texturing and creating Affines and Backgrounds: Warping. No Anti Warping like Diffusion,Deflection,Multi Bending or Perspective Correction.

    • @konstantinmfs2744
      @konstantinmfs2744 5 років тому +4

      lol it doesn't look "ugly", instead it is much better than the saturn version, you're just crazy sega fanatic that's it.

  • @adriansvarela
    @adriansvarela 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much! What an excellent video. Looks like it took hard work

  • @uribe_ramon
    @uribe_ramon 4 роки тому +13

    Back then we called this ”Boobs are alive” 😂

  • @sebadrive
    @sebadrive 7 років тому +24

    Saturn runs at 704x480 resolution and 60FPS

  • @NiGHTS1980
    @NiGHTS1980 7 років тому +22

    According to Tecmo themselves, the Saturn is the definitive version of the game. I would agree...

    • @hydzior
      @hydzior 6 років тому +5

      Saturn ? With this flatshading with no directional light and shittier visuals than ps1 ?

    • @TS-yz3ud
      @TS-yz3ud 6 років тому +2

      @@hydzior The only thing the PS port has is lighting. Get your eyes checked.

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 5 років тому +4

      @@hydzior yes but with real Backgrounds, a much better resolution, more precise movements, a better gameplay, 3D fighting areas and explosions, not flat wallpapers like the PS1 version etc etc. all what a playable and quality game supposed to have. Now if you like shouting at your screen like a jerk "Look at the light effects, look at the light effects, look at the light effects ! ..." actually the PS1 version is made for you

    • @drunkensailor112
      @drunkensailor112 5 років тому +1

      @@ciredecgellar8232 the saturns resolution is higher. Playstation could never get close to saturns high resolution.

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 5 років тому

      @@drunkensailor112 yep it's what i said

  • @TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube
    @TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube 7 років тому +3

    Saturn closer to the arcade - PS1 little more refined but not so sharp definition. I got both versions, and each are very good in their own way i guess lol....overall a tie for me - imo.

    • @segaunited3855
      @segaunited3855 6 років тому +1

      Saturn looks crisp,clean, polished and flawless.
      PSX looks ugly,warped and gimmicky. Its severe flaws in Affine Planes and Texture Mapping very apparent here.

  • @CommanderMartins
    @CommanderMartins 4 роки тому +2

    Uma comparação entre a versão de Arcade vs Saturn seria interessante. Bom vídeo, curti bastante as duas versões, por mais que tenha suas particularidades e diferenças!

  • @retroboy-fh1ji
    @retroboy-fh1ji 7 років тому +17

    One of the only games that shows why the Saturn is more powerful than PSX (3D). High resolution (704x480i) ,60fps, better sound, no texture warping, better models, no zooming like the PS1 counterpart, and better backgrounds, also the loading times are shorter on SAT. The only thing that lacks Saturn is Dynamic Lighthing (the reason is because Tecmo used the Virtua Fighter 2 engine and that engine lacks support for light sourcing to run the game at the highest resolution of the Saturn). This is how to optimize a good 3D game for the Saturn with the 2 CPU's well programmed.

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 6 років тому +4

      Model 2 version have no dynamic lighthing neither ...

    • @retroboy-fh1ji
      @retroboy-fh1ji 6 років тому +1

      ciredec Gellar true. But Virtua Fighter 2 already had more shadowing and better lighting.

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 6 років тому +5

      a lot of other games shows Saturn's impressive 3D capacity

    • @konstantinmfs2744
      @konstantinmfs2744 5 років тому +1

      lol saturn is not more powerful than ps1, especially in 3D. PS1 is much better, not even comparable, you're just troll or sega fanbo y.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 5 років тому

      @@konstantinmfs2744 Saturn is a 64-bit Console with 4 MBs of VRAM. PS1 is a 32-bit Console with only 1 MB of VRAM.
      So how is it more powerful?

  • @wordsshackles441
    @wordsshackles441 8 місяців тому +3

    Playstation had actual lighting, colored lighting, proper shading of the characters, and shadows. It's a very significant upgrade over the Saturn, which retains the flat, light-less, and incoherent look of the Model 2 version.

  • @richarddean8882
    @richarddean8882 8 років тому +6

    Ficou claro como a versão do saturn é melhor apesar de ter sido feita antes ela é uma conversão fiel a da placa model 2 enquanto que a do psx é uma conversão da dead or alive ++ que usa placa da Sony mas a versão do ps1 foi mal portada os personagens estão ate maior mas não tem cenário e iluminação fraca enquanto que no saturn a iluminação está ótima dando a sensação da hora da luta.

  • @baigos
    @baigos 8 місяців тому +1

    doa on ps1 was based on another arcade version "dead or alive++". This game run on capcom zn2 hardware. Saturn version was based on the original model 2 arcade.

  • @satan2k
    @satan2k 7 років тому +10

    I'm blown away by the performance they achieved on the Saturn. Looks like they just added more development time on PSX version, so the comparaison can't be fair. I'm sure with more time they could have done the same shadowing as PS version since it's just plain black polygons without transparency.

    • @nightruler666
      @nightruler666 2 роки тому

      You can make the same arguments for Saturn games that were ported poorly

  • @AngryApeTV
    @AngryApeTV 8 років тому +1

    It's tricky to tell but the Saturn version runs in a higher resolution too but all these video's are in tiny windows for no reason so its really hard to tell.

  • @ciredecgellar8232
    @ciredecgellar8232 7 років тому +5

    Saturn win, better resolution, far away better backgrounds, better pad. The PS version is good and have more characters. But the original one is better anyway. Even the creator of the game, Tomonobu Itagaki said that the Saturn version is the best home port of the game.

    • @konstantinmfs2744
      @konstantinmfs2744 5 років тому +1

      No, PS1 wins, the characters are bigger, the arts on character selection screen are much better and the shadow/lightning effects are extremely better.

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 5 років тому +4

      @@konstantinmfs2744 no it's not

  • @MarcosAntonio-ef9sf
    @MarcosAntonio-ef9sf 4 роки тому +2

    A versão PSX tem alguns efeitos de luz que estão ausentes no Saturn, porém as cores parecem estar mais lavadas. O cenário de fundo do Saturn é mais detalhado.

  • @danygeese
    @danygeese 2 роки тому +1

    🔥 Saturn Version 💙
    No Match, its a Perfect for The SegaConsole

  • @raiverns9620
    @raiverns9620 5 років тому +3

    The lighting on the PS1 is really something nice but the saturn does a bunch of things better here because it has some better design choices, rather hardware usage. I cant really rate one

    • @segaunited3855
      @segaunited3855 5 років тому +2

      The lighting effect is all low Illumination and Screen filtering. Its pretty bad on the PS1. The Worse part is the lack of BGs and terrible Character Models. They look like Paper Dolls.

  • @Deeply152
    @Deeply152 3 роки тому +1

    PS1 imo is a better port it had the futuristic look just like if you compared to doa 2 the characters more bigger more detailed the punches and jabs look real for the time and cinematic for the time honestly the Saturn plays like the arcade but it looks dull and unfulfilled compared to PS1 just my opinion

  • @UmGarotoGamer
    @UmGarotoGamer 8 років тому +5

    pra mim e o melhor canal de comparaçoes

  • @AlbertChyn
    @AlbertChyn 7 років тому

    1:48 What do the popularity votes mean for the playstation version?

  • @carlosalexandrearaujodossa9117
    @carlosalexandrearaujodossa9117 3 роки тому +3

    Duas versões impecável e linda tbm , empate técnico em grande estilo jogão perfeito demais no Saturno do meu coração e no PS1 gigante dos games 👏

    • @hernanedias554
      @hernanedias554 3 роки тому +3

      Grande opinião. Eu concordo. Algumas coisas melhores num e outras em outro, resumindo nos dois estão bem feitos...

    • @alekswxz
      @alekswxz 11 місяців тому

      @@hernanedias554 Saturno ganha nos cenários e perde um pouco nos personagens, mas nem tanto, verdadeiro empate!

    • @hernanedias554
      @hernanedias554 11 місяців тому

      @@alekswxz OK bro ...

  • @Alianger
    @Alianger 7 років тому +2

    It's kind of a small thing but the lack of effects when hitting each other in Saturn fighting games always bothered me.

  • @andore_btt
    @andore_btt 4 роки тому +3

    introdução: Saturn
    gameplay: Saturn
    Gráficos: PlayStation
    resolução: Saturn
    som: PlayStation

    • @binhocpb23
      @binhocpb23 3 роки тому

      Saturn era mais leve em jogabilidade, porém, em alguns momentos, Saturn se destacava no 3D, porém, outros ele falhava feio... 2D já peitava legal a geral.

  • @davidvfx
    @davidvfx 8 років тому +14

    SATURN!!!

    • @j.c.s7762
      @j.c.s7762 4 роки тому +1

      ps1!!!!

    • @j.c.s7762
      @j.c.s7762 4 роки тому +1

      @Rap Lawyer SS version is trash

    • @lazaradamovic7623
      @lazaradamovic7623 Рік тому

      ​@@j.c.s7762 hey the saturn version of dead or alive comes first be for ps1 version look in wikipedia
      dead or alive for the saturn version come out in 1997 dead or alive for the ps1 version come out in 1998

  • @jajajajavidal5389
    @jajajajavidal5389 5 років тому

    In 17:12 the designer is Guerrilla or Gelira??

  • @TheEco123
    @TheEco123 5 років тому +1

    Saturn has a better use of polygons, and Ps1 a lot better in light effects… But those backgrouds tho...
    At least the Ps1 versión tries to replicate DOA++ HUD and details, but, Saturn is a better arcade-like experience.

  • @dingliedangliedoodle9261
    @dingliedangliedoodle9261 4 роки тому +1

    I like this Lei Fang design much better, her hairstyle makes her much more unique than another one of those boring anime stereotypical "china-girl" hair buns/pigtails. Love her black attire too.

    • @Love-Sensibility
      @Love-Sensibility Рік тому

      Tell me about it. I swear everybody look mature and grown up. The colors they wear gives off that tense feeling. Tina's outfit in this game is the best!

  • @phantonimparcialsilva2447
    @phantonimparcialsilva2447 8 років тому +4

    Nossa, o Saturn roda sim belos jogos em 3D, pois os gráficos são mais coloridos e mais nítidos que a versão do PS1, além do fato de que no console da Sega os cenários de fundo são em 3D de verdade, enquanto que no console da Sony os cenários de fundo são simples cenas em 2D. Além disso, essa conversão do Saturn ficou muito parecida, graficamente, com a do Virtua Fighter 2. É uma pena que era tão difícil de se programar jogos em 3D no complexo hardware do Saturn; talvez esse problema seria corrigido se a Sega tivesse feito e distribuído mais kits de desenvolvimente para as empresas desenvolvedoras de jogos.

    • @lucasraphael6236
      @lucasraphael6236 8 років тому +2

      Fora a propaganda lixo, que assassinou o videogame (sério, cada comercial mais bizarro que o outro)

    • @phantonimparcialsilva2447
      @phantonimparcialsilva2447 8 років тому +3

      +Lucas Raphael Por isso que nem sempre se pode ir atrás do que os outros falam ou escrevem. O importante é conhecer os fatos, e o fato é que esse não foi o único jogo em 3D que rodou legal no Saturn, pois Panzer Dragon 2, Sega Raly, Power Slave e Sonic R são outros exemplos de jogos em 3D bonitos do Saturn.

    • @RACH90810
      @RACH90810 2 роки тому

      Ps4 pro.system was copying saturn but with better hardware.

    • @aderitosantos1695
      @aderitosantos1695 Рік тому

      Saturn cenários são pré renderizados, muito bom mal nota cenários renderizados tempo real versão arcade, excepto animações saturn sao estático 😅

  • @wizzgamer
    @wizzgamer 2 роки тому

    Hard to decide they both look gorgeous.

  • @The-Fishkeeper
    @The-Fishkeeper 7 років тому +5

    PlayStation version has better shadows and nice lighting but the Saturn version looks nicer in most other areas to me. I also much prefer the Saturn / Arcade gameplay over the PlayStation version.
    Oh and the Saturn version has awesome music!

  • @BPKDLH07
    @BPKDLH07 4 роки тому +1

    It's hard to say because both ports have points.
    I think PS1 version is better than the Saturn version if we talk about graphics and content which is a plus because PS1 has more costumes and Ayane, on the other hand, gameplay are good on both but against PS1 version, one of the few better points for saturn is gameplay which is a little faster and more similar to the arcade.
    If we talk about how well-ported is one version, Saturn wins, but PS1 version is an "improved" one of the original base.
    Personally, if only the saturn version had Ayane (I'm not going to consider the training dummy), I would prefer that version over PS1.

  • @vasileios6301
    @vasileios6301 8 років тому +4

    You cant compare them straightly since they are different games with somewhat complex history.
    Saturn version is the prototype that later gave the ultimate arcade Model 2 version and Playstation port is based on the weaker arcade Tecmo System11 which was intrroduced later with added and removed content which make it a different game overall.
    Other than that Saturn version is the better one,even though it has fewer polygons and worse lighting,

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 8 років тому +3

      Sega Saturn is basically low end Model 2 hardware. Its System 32 with Model 2 3D technology.

    • @charvelgtrs
      @charvelgtrs 7 років тому +3

      Saturn doesn't have Model 2 level hardware. Its much weaker.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 7 років тому +1

      Saturn IS components of low end Model 2 hardware. The Difference between Saturn and Model 2 is like the difference between Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge.

    • @konstantinmfs2744
      @konstantinmfs2744 5 років тому +1

      Lol you say "saturn is better, even the graphics are worse", great logic.

  • @beanmchocolate3900
    @beanmchocolate3900 5 років тому +1

    Why didn't they add the exploding floor to the PlayStation version?

    • @beanmchocolate3900
      @beanmchocolate3900 5 років тому

      The first area didn't have an exploding floor, or at least it wasn't highlighted like the Saturn version.

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 3 роки тому

      It's there

  • @Kpocci
    @Kpocci 8 років тому +6

    Saturn bem mais fiel ao arcade, embora o port de Psx tenha suas qualidades, como mais polígonos (obviamente) e uma paleta de cores que me agrada mais, mas muito esquisito ter ficado assim tão diferente do arcade.

  • @akhandtripathipyz9888
    @akhandtripathipyz9888 3 роки тому +1

    Both looks fantastic

  • @Love-Sensibility
    @Love-Sensibility Рік тому +1

    Saturn, most definitely. Saw a playthrough of it and fell in love. I really love the opponent defeat screen on Saturn. The intro is top notch too!

  • @LucreBem
    @LucreBem 2 роки тому +5

    PS1 version is a shame. It shows perfectly the true face of Sony with its consoles, using blurry graphics and shadows to hide the bad graphics.

  • @mikieson
    @mikieson 5 років тому +1

    One thing is for sure. Anytime you have side by side comparisons and you have people chiming in that one console is better than the other "just look at this" and "this consoles does this better and this"..and someone else chimes in..""NO this console does this and this better and only that console does this" and the battle goes on between people over and over..THOSE are the people you dont listen to. Because they argue over power and how things are rendered and done. There has to be a clear winner...PERIOD..So obviously those guys dont know the real facts of "said system" OR there would be no debate, only real tech specs and proof..you cant argue FACTS..

    • @segaunited3855
      @segaunited3855 5 років тому +1

      PS1 is a weaker console than Saturn.

  • @ITTCcup
    @ITTCcup 2 роки тому +2

    Saturno mesmo com jogo de um ano atrás do que foi lançado o do play ainda sim é infinitamente melhor em todos aspectos...cenário, resolução, mais polígonos, mais detalhes , efeitos de explocoes, cenários com duas camadas com detalhes em 3d, Saturno tem versão mais parecida com a do Arcade, já o do play por sua limitação em fazer cenários de duas camadas com detalhes em 3 D por ter só um chip pra fazer tudo isso saiu versão capada muito diferente da do Arcade

  • @johnwolque
    @johnwolque 8 років тому +7

    pra mim a única vantagem da versão ps1 é o efeito de iluminação e sombras e só ,os bonecos apesar de maiores estão parecendo massinha de modelar e os cenários ou a ausência deles perdem pra versão saturn que apesar de ñ ser 3d usa um bimap em multiplas camadas convincente,um raro caso de um game 3d q ficou melhor no console da sega

  • @bjraleigh1439
    @bjraleigh1439 Рік тому +1

    ps1 doa certainly looks to be producing the better image to my eyes. The fighters just look so much more rounded and polished. I even prefer the more simplistic backgrounds of the ps1. I will say the graphical style is so different on each, that I could see a number of people having a preference for the saturn release, but in terms of what screams gorgeous 3d graphics, the PlayStation certainly takes this honor.

    • @segaunited3855
      @segaunited3855 11 місяців тому +1

      No. Not Really. Its just really shined up Software Engines.

  • @stufaman
    @stufaman 8 років тому +7

    As great as the Saturn version is, DoA is a fine example of Sega f**king up games for Saturn owners.
    Refusing to export excellent games like this while PS1 effortlessly snaps up and churns out great games.

  • @anglo-saxonconnor817
    @anglo-saxonconnor817 11 місяців тому

    Why did the game turn out so different on the two systems to begin with anyway? Whats the reason for it ?

  • @RawDawg903
    @RawDawg903 7 років тому +25

    psx looks way better. the Saturn version the people look like blocks, very very block like. it looks so much smoother and realistic on psx and better lighting too.

    • @ultimateman1234
      @ultimateman1234 7 років тому +16

      No, no. The psx version is the one on the RIGHT. Clearly you must be confused.

    • @caseycu
      @caseycu 7 років тому

      Did you even watch the video? 🙄

    • @ivand5699
      @ivand5699 7 років тому +3

      On the saturn it looks more blocky but also more like a good anime drawing, while the psx looks a little less blocky but like a very bad drawing of deformed mutant character. Very horrible result for the ps1 in this game.

    • @Malheirods
      @Malheirods 6 років тому +3

      If you look closer you'll notice that backgrounds on the Saturn are in actual 3D while it's mostly a simple image on the PSX. So it's not really fair to focus on fighters.

    • @bjraleigh1439
      @bjraleigh1439 6 років тому +1

      backgrounds are actually layered sprites, same as vf2 was on saturn. Looks convincing though. I suspect this might be difficult for the playstation to achieve. Does anyone know of an example in a game?

  • @etrotm12thebluewolf15
    @etrotm12thebluewolf15 7 років тому

    they that confirmation sound effect in smash bros brawl (I dont know where in the game is it used but if you go to the sound test youll find it)

  • @MH-yp6wg
    @MH-yp6wg 2 роки тому

    I think the PS-version looks better overall due to the much more convincing and beautiful lighting, which is completely absent on the saturn... again (must have been very hard to do on the saturn). Makes the saturn-version look very, very flat and almost boring compared to the atmospheric PS-version.
    But I like how they used the saturn's VDP2 here with several independently scrolling and scaling 2D background-layers. Nice to see someone put that thing to good use.

  • @Holothurion
    @Holothurion 4 роки тому +1

    Teextures vs. lightning and shading... Tough call. 🤔

  • @ps-lover8380
    @ps-lover8380 5 років тому +3

    I don't know why people always saying PlayStation version is so bad but for me I like PlayStation version because the music is awesome in ps1

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 4 роки тому +2

      The PS1 version isn't bad at all, i do think the Saturn version is a better but that doesn't mean that the PS1 version is bad, far away from that actually.

  • @QuanChiz
    @QuanChiz 7 років тому +9

    Saturn's port looks more cartoonised

  • @marcospedroso1680
    @marcospedroso1680 7 років тому +3

    The Saturn version is better, runs at 60 fps and have a bigger resolution, but it's not so noticeable like some people are saying, the biggest difference i see, it's the shading, who have much more contrast in the ps1, but this is just a design choice i think.

    • @konstantinmfs2744
      @konstantinmfs2744 5 років тому +1

      PS1 also runs at 60 fps, the character models are bigger and the lightning effects are much better. PS1 version is better.

    • @segaunited3855
      @segaunited3855 5 років тому

      @@konstantinmfs2744 There's no lighting effects on the PS1 version. And the Character models look AWFUL. They're stretched out and Papery looking.
      Saturn wins.

  • @Lukas-kz4xm
    @Lukas-kz4xm Рік тому

    Both look great for 1st generation 3D graphics consoles, this is why I was never inpressed with part 2 on the DC as it's barely a leap in graphics to this one.

  • @veterano-gamerxp
    @veterano-gamerxp 4 роки тому +2

    Gostei das duas ! Saturn wins PlayStation wins

  • @oldarchiveing4626
    @oldarchiveing4626 4 роки тому +3

    Sega saturn wins. Not just feels like arcade, its brighter and crispier like you are playing a real movie game in 90's. Great job, Sega!

  • @CameronLestat
    @CameronLestat 7 місяців тому

    I may not be the first to point this out in comments, and welcome clarification if off/wrong/missing any information. The PlayStation version is Dead or Alive + (++ has Bass, Ayani _may be misspelled or misnamed, girl from DOA2 with pink sash/ribbon).
    I wonder if that made it to arcades, or was in/slammed for release on PS1, or simply scrapped in dev. I only ever saw screens of this in a magazine, long ago.

  • @The-Fishkeeper
    @The-Fishkeeper 8 років тому +11

    Saturn version for me.

  • @benjrgadgets7223
    @benjrgadgets7223 3 роки тому

    I like both systems, i just admire Sega Saturn's more animated stage with glowing reds. Ps1 shading is nicer.

  • @engroga
    @engroga Рік тому +1

    Saturn version is an excellent arcade port but PS1 version is an upgrade of the arcade version. PS1 version was sold later so Tecmo had time to improve the game. Some PS1 advantages: 1) Bigger characters; 2) Better graphics, 3) Excellent BGM included (one of the best fighting game OST of all times); 4) Two chars included (Ayane and Bass); 5) Many skins included; 6) More beautiful scenarios.

  • @sinister8739
    @sinister8739 2 роки тому +1

    Nada supera a resolução e fluidez da versão Saturn, mas no PSX tem esse filtro nas texturas e está mais bonito no final das contas.

  • @bl1ndpr0phet
    @bl1ndpr0phet 8 місяців тому

    I think I like the presentation for the Saturn version more than the PS1, even if the latter has nicer models (and Ayane!!)

  • @spooky_electric
    @spooky_electric 2 роки тому

    I had both versions growing up, and while the Saturn version definitely resembled the arcade more, I always preferred the look of the PS version. Saturn version definitely had more interesting backgrounds though. PS had Tekken 1-level bland backgrounds.

  • @JonathanHarrisNews
    @JonathanHarrisNews 2 дні тому

    When pushed the Saturn could really do some incredible things.

  • @ClevertonHeusner
    @ClevertonHeusner 8 років тому +1

    Se todos os games 3D do Saturn tivessem sido assim...

  • @fernandoretrogamer1722
    @fernandoretrogamer1722 3 роки тому

    Sega Saturn no le niego el ¡¡¡Gran poder!!! y memoria, en síntesis, superior a Ps1.
    Pero joder en Ps1 se programaba más fácil, aún careciendo de muchas cosas y movia mejor los gráficos 3D, dandole ventaja.
    Ambas son de lo mejor.

  • @sinister8739
    @sinister8739 8 років тому +1

    Acho sexy esse ''sayonara'' que ela fala no final...

  • @Dec4AllTimeAlways
    @Dec4AllTimeAlways 3 роки тому +2

    Street Fighter II, Mortal Kombat II, Virtua Fighter II, Tekken 2, and Dead Or Alive 2. Other great Part 2s in gaming: Sonic 2, Shenmue II, Metal Gear Solid 2 (very misunderstood), God of War II, and Uncharted 2.

  • @ITTCcup
    @ITTCcup 6 років тому +3

    sega wins, better graphic saturn, explosive arenas and two layer scenarios, high resolution and better sound, different from the play with scenery and simple arenas

  • @Dec4AllTimeAlways
    @Dec4AllTimeAlways 3 роки тому +1

    Super Mario Bros. 3 is really the true successor to the first SMB. Not Lost Levels and SMB2. But it has the number 3 next to it. Super Mario World is really SMB3. I don't count Super Mario Land on Game Boy.

  • @matthewhaverly3108
    @matthewhaverly3108 5 років тому

    Pictured is a 'Dreamcast' ?

  • @mayconwilliam600
    @mayconwilliam600 5 років тому +2

    O ps1 teve personagens melhores com mais poligonos e muito bem iluminados tbem conta com fundos mais realistas...porem o Saturn tem maior resolução q não se ve tao boa em outro jogo fluidez total e cenarios mais trabalhados e maiores apesar de serem cartoonizados...dessa vez o Saturn levou... se todos soubessem programar bem no saturn como a tecmo e travellers tails a história teria sido outra

  • @FuerzaAzteca1000
    @FuerzaAzteca1000 7 років тому +2

    Sega Saturn to me.

  • @ninjyangproductions7696
    @ninjyangproductions7696 7 років тому +5

    I say the SEGA SATURN version is better, loading time is better, plus I like the DOA logo on the Saturn. It gives the game character. Dead or Alive on the Saturn came out in 1997. then was ported on ps1 release in 1998. The SEGA SATURN takes the win again :D

  • @andreyamamoto1709
    @andreyamamoto1709 2 роки тому +1

    Versao saturn esta com modelos com mais poligonos e texturas melhores, mas a versao playstation tem interação com a luz e as CGI estao mais fluidas

  • @imafreakinninja12
    @imafreakinninja12 Рік тому +2

    Looks like the Saturn had better stages.

  • @heilong79
    @heilong79 2 роки тому

    The origional was on Saturn arcade hardware, they remade the game for the PS1.