Tomb Raider (Sega Saturn vs Playstation) Side by Side Comparison

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  • @Shadowlord1980
    @Shadowlord1980 7 років тому +103

    Saturn version is more atmospheric and little darker than psx version. I played this game with pc version which probably based psx version. So lovely memories this game brings from 1996.

    • @pmatias
      @pmatias Рік тому +7

      Also more contrasty and colorful

    • @stefanomazzarello4771
      @stefanomazzarello4771 Рік тому +1

      ​@@pmatias as many games available on both systems...

    • @dobry-cat
      @dobry-cat Рік тому

      PC - версия томб-райдер как у Сатурна одинаковы в графическом плане ..
      а, ps1 версия она немного по своему отличается

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 10 місяців тому +6

      Yeah its called lower color depth, with more basic colors that pop more.....its actually a negative .....also 20fps vs 30fps....Saturn is junk

    • @juanpabloparedesaraya6131
      @juanpabloparedesaraya6131 9 місяців тому +4

      @jhkuno88 It just looks darker on saturn. There are a lot of video games that play better on saturn than ps1, so it's not junk. Don't write from ignorance.

  • @CelticProgeny
    @CelticProgeny 6 років тому +125

    Both fantastic in their day. The focus was on the puzzles and the exploration unlike todays games that are more like films.

    • @someguy8951
      @someguy8951 3 роки тому +3

      Not all games are like films today

    • @CelticProgeny
      @CelticProgeny 3 роки тому +13

      @@someguy8951 I'm talking about Tomb Raider.

    • @someguy8951
      @someguy8951 3 роки тому +4

      @@CelticProgeny oh ok my bad

    • @CelticProgeny
      @CelticProgeny 3 роки тому +11

      @@someguy8951 No problem pal, my comment isn't clear :)

    • @immortal98638
      @immortal98638 3 роки тому +9

      True.Back then games were truly challenging.

  • @PubliusAfricanus
    @PubliusAfricanus 6 років тому +84

    Great game no matter the system. Miss the '90s. Simpler maybe, but always fun.

    • @bangerbangerbro
      @bangerbangerbro 3 роки тому +2

      Not that much simpler.

    • @AlexRN
      @AlexRN 3 роки тому +15

      Agreed. But spare a thought to the Saturn owners who bought and loved this game that later learned TR2 and 3 would not come to their console. That must’ve hurt.

    • @DarkLightProjector
      @DarkLightProjector 2 місяці тому +1

      @@bangerbangerbro You're right. Games aren't fundamentally more complex than they were back then. It's amazing that games had basically reached a realized scope by the 90s.

    • @bangerbangerbro
      @bangerbangerbro 2 місяці тому

      @@DarkLightProjector In a lot of ways, yeah they did. Obviously graphically they have come on, and environments have got bigger, but probably in the 6th generation the depth of games hasn't gone that much further.

  • @JrAccessDenied
    @JrAccessDenied 6 років тому +26

    Like the added darkness, water, and lack of image clipping causing black lines in the Saturn version. But like the slightly more polished look of the ps1. If these two versions were made into a hybrid they’d be perfect.

  • @runarvollan
    @runarvollan 9 місяців тому +12

    Love the contrast, the water, the perfectly placed dark shadows and bright lights unique to Saturn, and the more pixelated graphics which helps conseal all seams. I just KNEW vanilla would have some benefits still lacking in later versions. Better sound quality in cutscenes too?

    • @lostsektor
      @lostsektor 9 місяців тому +2

      saturn plays much worse and looks worse too, sound quality is bad and framerate is droping to 18~20 everytime while ps1 plays fine at 30. fmv cutscene is also worse in quality, try play both in fullscreen and you will see.

  • @goatlps
    @goatlps Рік тому +13

    I played both versions at the time. I remember preferring the Saturn version and thinking it looked much better - although it's now clear the PlayStation has much better resolution (which I probably didn't consider being a thing back then), the image contrast of the Saturn version still gives it a better look. Saturn FTW.

  • @mr-tyrflow4491
    @mr-tyrflow4491 5 років тому +29

    I think the developers cant handle the System of the Saturn, because it was complicated, but the Saturn got much more Power than the PS1, Its bad that in many games the full power does not come out, of the Saturn.

  • @maforo85
    @maforo85 7 років тому +35

    Like the Saturn look, I like the darker shades. Ps1 loos like theres a lamp light following Lara all the time

    • @kakaszka7236
      @kakaszka7236 5 років тому +1

      it's darker because it's clipping... the graphics render in close proximity and the rest is dark.... this is your "darker shades" :P They had to save texture and give black instead of textures everywhere. But it's best to turn a disadvantage into an advantage. That's what all saturn fanboys do all the time. As if the video from the game were inverted "deliberately" you would talk the opposite way. This is pathetic..........

    • @BurnBird1
      @BurnBird1 4 роки тому +7

      @@kakaszka7236 They look different and he prefers the look of one of them, what's the problem? It doesn't matter why it looks different or what exactly causes it.

    • @jpfriki
      @jpfriki 4 роки тому +7

      @@kakaszka7236 I think you are wrong with that theory, what about the rest of colors? They look way better with better contrast as well.

    • @ohjoshua67
      @ohjoshua67 3 роки тому +2

      The PlayStation has better lighting and shading because of the Transparency.

    • @NormanFoxLee
      @NormanFoxLee 4 місяці тому

      If you try to play it - you will hate it. It is literally impossible to see anything in the game.

  • @Aurocastro1
    @Aurocastro1 7 років тому +21

    It's great to see you didn't give up on your channel. Keep up the good work! This one in particular brings back so many memories...

  • @mark902
    @mark902 3 роки тому +15

    i mean the differences are minimal, but the saturn has better colour saturation and draw distance, and as well that cool "wiggly body light refraction" underwater effect when just her head is above water.

    • @steveo5174
      @steveo5174 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, sharper textures and better contrast on the Saturn for sure.

  • @ki11m3please325
    @ki11m3please325 6 років тому +39

    I noticed that the Saturn also had better draw distance. The PlayStation has dark rooms till you were in them while you could see the end of the room from another room With the Saturn.

    • @kylematlock7499
      @kylematlock7499 4 роки тому +1

      yes,also the polygons are not calculated as precisely on the PS also, thats why you see gaps at the vertices where two shapes meet. But PS does look a little smoother/higher res.

  • @chriskorol4244
    @chriskorol4244 5 років тому +38

    I remember playing Tomb raider on my Saturn when I was 10 and the bear scared the SHIT out of me and I never played it again till I was 11 :p

    • @Godzillaz264
      @Godzillaz264 5 років тому +1

      idem 😂

    • @ricardoresende1658
      @ricardoresende1658 4 роки тому +5

      I remeber playing on saturn to when I was 7 years the T-rex scene used to scare me a lot

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps Рік тому +1

      Just as well you never saw the T.rex then LOL!

  • @davidtracey1583
    @davidtracey1583 Рік тому +6

    Fun fact: the Sega Saturn Tomb Raider game disk has gorgeous audio tracks that can be played using any CD player.

  • @iankof90
    @iankof90 23 дні тому +1

    I prefer the Saturn version. The controls were so much better, and there was a better draw distance. While the resolution wasn't as high as the ps1 version, Lara and the enemies were more detailed in the Saturn version.
    Edit: grammar and punctuation.

  • @chucksilva9307
    @chucksilva9307 7 років тому +13

    Nesse caso o Ps1 tem os gráficos mais fluidos, da pra ver menos os polígonos formando as imagens, no Saturn alem de se perceber bem mais os polígonos, que tremem um pouco, parece que o jogo é mais escuro, talvez pra tentar esconder algumas falhas, porem o fato de no Saturn ser mais escuro, da um clima mais sinistro no jogo, o que no caso de Tomb Raider ajuda o jogador imergir melhor na historia, ambas as versões tem seu charme.

    • @arcale01
      @arcale01 4 роки тому +6

      O jogo está mais escuro porque o Saturn está simulando melhor o ambiente de baixa luminosidade da caverna, o trabalho de iluminação do game é nitidamente melhor, assim como a gama de cores. Basta ver nos momentos em que o ambiente é bem iluminado, como a Saturn se sai bem. Ou seja, no PS1, as cenas escuras é que não estão tão boas. Mas concordo que as texturas e a suavidade dos polígonos está melhor no PS1.

    • @lostsektor
      @lostsektor 9 місяців тому

      essa versão do saturn é bem pior q a do ps1 n te como comparar, ps1 muito mais agradavel visualmente fora rodar a 30fps com boa estabilidade enquanto o saturn chora nos 20fps. no video em uma janela pequena n aparenta tanto, mas jogue ambos e vai perceber.

  • @nakano15
    @nakano15 7 років тому +10

    2:50 Lara in The Sims load screen.

  • @paulpatti5854
    @paulpatti5854 5 років тому +7

    Tomb Raider on Saturn come out for first, without geometric plygon engine look more colorful and dark than psx version.
    1)Wooden Box > Saturn
    2)Colors > Saturn
    3)Texture > PSX
    4)Water > PSX
    5)Light > Saturn
    6)Framrate > PSX
    7)Save Point > PSX

    • @thetraveler2224
      @thetraveler2224 4 роки тому

      hey at least the ps1 was $100 cheaper and that massive burn Sony gave Sega at the first e3 of 1995.

    • @costumeninja1914
      @costumeninja1914 10 днів тому

      @@thetraveler2224without a game and built in memory that 100 dollars off ain’t so hot now is it 😂

  • @Gattsu83
    @Gattsu83 7 років тому +20

    You know, when looking at this comparison, it is truly hard to say which version is better, Look at the details, Example when you are in the pool, the colors and lighting on the playstation is different but the saturn as actual water effects when under the water that the playstation lacks. Looks great for both consoles

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, but the PS1 used actual transparency effects for the water, which the Saturn could not do, which is why they went with a different water effect to compensate.

    • @matilija
      @matilija 2 роки тому +23

      @@Rocket1377 I wish people would stop spreading that fud, the Saturn COULD do transparencies, but they had to be rendered on the second display processor VDP2 which most developers either weren't comfortable with programming or simply weren't aware due to poor developer tools released by Sega at the time.

    • @segablastprocessing400
      @segablastprocessing400 2 роки тому +1

      @@Rocket1377
      Prefiero el efecto de distorsión del agua al de la transparencia.

    • @wordsshackles441
      @wordsshackles441 Рік тому +5

      @@Rocket1377 That is plain false. The Saturn had superior transparency and visual effects capabilities. In fact the Saturn is a more powerful system all around and yes this includes 3D.

    • @costumeninja1914
      @costumeninja1914 Рік тому +3

      @@wordsshackles441👏💯👍

  • @Scorpionbe
    @Scorpionbe 7 років тому +34

    The water effects are way better on saturn.

    • @fardeenawan1793
      @fardeenawan1793 4 роки тому +1

      Yes its much more clearer on the saturn

    • @bensmith5288
      @bensmith5288 4 роки тому +4

      You must be joking
      I'm neutral and it's clear the ps1 was better

    • @fardeenrabbani4320
      @fardeenrabbani4320 4 роки тому +2

      @@bensmith5288 you must be blind

  • @The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane
    @The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane 2 роки тому +1

    I first played this game in 2021 after buying all 4 Tomb Raider games, and I enjoyed it. So far, I only played the PlayStation version of the first game and beaten it.

  • @adroharv9213
    @adroharv9213 Рік тому +1

    I finished TR on the PS1 and adored it but even though there is a reduction to the framerate on the Saturn, it has it's own gritty darker tone that you could easily argue is more authentic to the type of experience. I like both very much

  • @Ragnarok182
    @Ragnarok182 7 років тому +4

    Both look the same honestly, the only differences I see, Sega Saturn has more detail in terrain and lighting and PlayStation has better effects and sound. Put these two together we got PlayStation 2.

  • @oldarchiveing4626
    @oldarchiveing4626 4 роки тому +2

    The only thing that Sega must do in game developers from the Saturn is to train them so that, they will not fail at the end of their own 5th gen console.

  • @ericmatheus2890
    @ericmatheus2890 7 років тому +3

    Estou tão feliz por ter voltado!!! :,-) Valeu VC Decide!!!!!!

  • @Grandmastergav86
    @Grandmastergav86 7 років тому +8

    I remember being impressed by the graphics back in the day of Saturn. Times have changed but I'm still playing Doom 2 and Quake thanks to wonderful mods.

  • @steveothehulk
    @steveothehulk 7 років тому +4

    The 1st game I ever seen an ingame cut scene

  • @iwanttocomplain
    @iwanttocomplain 5 років тому +10

    To my eyes the Saturn has richer and more vibrant colours with wider range of tones. The big difference, to me is that the PS1 version has black lines appearing in-between polygons which happens all the way through. This makes the Saturn version far superior in presentation and feel like a more polished product. Also, I think the textures warp more on the PS1 version.
    I'm starting to form the opinion that the Saturn, with the proper understanding of how to use it's vdp's, is the more powerful 3d system than the PS1.

    • @kakaszka7236
      @kakaszka7236 5 років тому +2

      it's darker because is clipping... the graphics render in close proximity and the rest is dark.... this is your "more vibrant colours" :P They had to save texture and give black instead of textures everywhere. But it's best to turn a disadvantage into an advantage. That's what all saturn fanboys do all the time. As if the video from the game were inverted "deliberately" you would talk the opposite way. *You always say that to fit your thesis* This is pathetic..........
      Real players are not stupid. They just saw what saturn games look like and that's why they chose the rival sony consoles. I remember that nobody wanted to buy then because there were only poor quality games, mostly *"for 5 minutes"*
      To this day, sega can't make good games. All weak ... Where are the fanboys? why are you not fiercely defending modern games from sega? Because they suck .... Always and everywhere .... forever!!!!

    • @Haganeren
      @Haganeren 2 роки тому +4

      @@kakaszka7236 Whoa whoa whoa....
      And here i though the Nintendo vs Sega war could be heated... Be more calm about what you say, everything is 25 years behind us now... And nobody would ever worked on the Saturn is still there to make game at Sega nowadays so that's just uncalled for.
      And yes, the Saturn always had a cleaner 3D than the PSX... ( inb4 Spyro ) Which is normal since the PSX does not warp texture for pleasure, it does in order to gain more power and be a better 3D console. If the two screens were inverted, i would have been very surprised.
      I don't think the Saturn could have handled Tomb Raider 3 with its clean but expensive 3D though.

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps Рік тому +3

      @@kakaszka7236 LOL a fanboy still crying about this? Get a grip - it's decades ago! The PlayStation was clearly the better console, and it's known the Saturn was difficult for developers. However, for whatever technical reasons, and despite the lower resolution, the colours and contrast of the Sega version suit the game more, as the darkness gives the tombs more atmosphere - which was what the games were all about.
      Neither consoles are as good as an Xbox.

    • @orderofmagnitude-TPATP
      @orderofmagnitude-TPATP Рік тому +2

      Virtua fighter 2 compared to tekken2/3 , powerslave/exhumed compared to powerslave/exhumed PlayStation. Last bronx, panzer zwei, - virtua cop2 compared to time crisis, alien trilogy- same as ps1 but not even using the second processor. I could name plenty more, then there's the 2D games that aged far more gracefully. Yeah saturn was the more powerful machine by actually quite a bit. Only 3rd party ports suffered.
      On the caveat though - you know how to code it as it wasn't in c++

    • @costumeninja1914
      @costumeninja1914 Рік тому

      @@orderofmagnitude-TPATPI agree 💯

  • @GeekGamerGui
    @GeekGamerGui 7 років тому +5

    The Saturn version shows some distorsions of shapes in the water those aren't present on PS1. The PS1 version has some graphical glitches flickering between the textures. I suppose it's enough to say the Saturn wins for this time.

    • @donemansion
      @donemansion 6 років тому

      Geek Gamer Gui
      Hold your trigger, Sega saturn and ms dos version have same water effect no diffrence at all. This guy didnt made comparison water effect saturn Vs ms-dos tomb raider 1 version. Sega didnt win

  • @miguelroman4294
    @miguelroman4294 7 років тому +7

    I have both, to me the Saturn lighting is more fitting for the game. the PS1 has to many clipping seams and some colors are to bright for its own good however it has a bit less jaggies. to me the Saturn is the winner. imho.

  •  7 років тому +16

    I have both versions, I like both, water on Saturn is way better than the PSX version but the PSX version looks smoother overall, a little bit less dark but it's not a big deal for me.

    • @tiffanylee3866
      @tiffanylee3866 7 років тому +4

      Rodrigo González I totally agree with you the Saturn's colors are prettier to me but the PlayStation textures are way smoother, but tbat doesn't make a difference when I am playing

    • @k4rec4
      @k4rec4 7 років тому +4

      Looks like a matter of taste then. The underwater section is the worse aspect on Saturn version in my opinion. It's hard to even perceive that Lara is in the water. It's like the programmers tried hard to make the water transparent, but in the end became pretty dulled. For me it seems that she could've been floating around with zero gravity instead of swimming. 😊

  • @giovaniavelar9010
    @giovaniavelar9010 2 роки тому +1

    2:30 Cara, essa música me traz uma nostalgia, bons tempos viu :-)

  • @RodrigoDigoJunho
    @RodrigoDigoJunho 7 років тому +8

    Fico feliz que conseguiu recuperar os dados do canal 😎

    • @vcdecide
      @vcdecide  7 років тому +1

      ^^ vlw, apenas quero que você não me entenda errado quanto a resposta que lhe dei no video do Chase H.Q. (Sega Genesis vs Snes), pois vi que você apagou a sua mensagem, junto com a minha resposta.
      não sei se aquela tinha sido a sua intenção de prejudicar a minha comparação, mas apenas quero que entenda que há haters do meu canal que tem essa intenção de querer anular minhas comparações, sem querer entender o motivo delas existirem, e muito deles até entendem, mas por não gostarem de mim ou das minhas comparações, ainda assim ficam de haterismo com comentários que despreza e cospe sobre os videos que faço no youtube.
      Sendo que comparação vai além de comparações coisas ''iguais'', há diversos tipos de comparações, desde já agraço por acompanhar o canal por mais de 1 ano, e pelos comentários que sempre posta por aqui, sou grata a todas as pessoas que ajudam o canal com comentários, likes, views e etc.
      apenas não me entenda errada, chega uma hora que não tem como se segurar, devido a quantidade de haters querendo desqualificar o que faço, como se não entendesse nada de games.

  • @sheltontristania
    @sheltontristania 7 років тому +4

    Cajuzinha que bom que estás de volta😍❤ E com jogo bão! Nessa o PSX levou, apesar das cores mais lavadas e efeitos de água inferiores ao Saturno.

    • @paulosoares6186
      @paulosoares6186 6 років тому

      Desculpa mas nao a agua na ps1 esta tuda com cor na sega o que vc quer dizer com muvimento da agua e a cor que desaparece e aparece se vc reparar

  • @dacueba-games
    @dacueba-games 2 місяці тому +1

    Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. This game reeks without the rose-tinted glasses.

  • @DrxSlump
    @DrxSlump 4 роки тому +6

    The textures dance like crazy on the PlayStation (as usual). There's also a lot of polygon flicker on the later. Saturn does a better job in those fields. But on anything else, the PlayStation looks kinda better.

  • @antoniesb4330
    @antoniesb4330 8 місяців тому

    The Saturn version is amazing. Just bought and love it. Much more atmosphere, that is all for this kind of game!

  • @angrymobsters1599
    @angrymobsters1599 2 роки тому

    4:46- 4:54 the only way to truly define which one is better.

  • @neitron90
    @neitron90 2 роки тому +6

    In 1997 had this game on both consoles, but would play on saturn more often because it felt darker, more atmospheric and the sound was somehow more pleasing. Pixelated graphics were the only slight issue but i only noticed that when i got the game on my ps1. My father would play on ps1 and me on Saturn. :D

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps Рік тому +1

      Agreed. I played both too. Provided the resolution was high enough to see objects, know what they were, and didn't affect difficulty, that's all that mattered - because gameplay and atmosphere were more important (although the gameplay was certainly clunky). The 'reboots' have lost the originals' fanbase because they just hijacked the brand name to make a 3rd person shooter with a flat-chested girl - technically far greater, but nothing to do with the original tomb-raiding Lara Croft.

  • @marckun53
    @marckun53 7 років тому +28

    Apesar da Lara Croft ter ficado famosa no PlayStation, quem diria que Tomb Raider nasceu no Sega Saturn.

    • @biglui
      @biglui 7 років тому +2

      Pois é... Apesar de ter comprado meu Saturn já tarde (1999) ainda se via vendendo o jogo nas lojas. Arrependo de não ter comprado na época.

  • @Thelife8819
    @Thelife8819 2 роки тому +2

    Tengo las dos versiones y la primera que jugué fue el año 1996 para Sega Saturn.
    Me gusta la de Saturn por su atmósfera en los gráficos, pero es horrible en el framerate etc.
    La versión Pal fue la primera y tenía muchísimos fallos, la mejor es la Japonesa con todo arreglado y 60Hz

  • @geminielectro
    @geminielectro Рік тому

    At 11:13, it's interresting to see the difference between square textures on Saturn and triangle textures on PS. On the right of the SS video, we can see the square wall texture turned into a triangle. On this frame, PS version looks better.

  • @alexbrito5511
    @alexbrito5511 5 років тому +9

    this game marked my childhood! I'm going to Sega Saturn, I think this more beautiful with better lighting!

    • @bensmith5288
      @bensmith5288 3 роки тому

      You joking ? Playstation os clearly superior.. you are biased completely

    • @costumeninja1914
      @costumeninja1914 10 днів тому

      @@bensmith5288no, PS version is terrible

  • @shuckylad
    @shuckylad 9 місяців тому +2

    Think the game launched first on the Saturn

  • @bradleyhifi8155
    @bradleyhifi8155 6 років тому +2

    ps1 has better res but sega Saturn gaphics are better because it has better 3d polygon than ps1

  • @RieklinRideR
    @RieklinRideR 6 років тому +6

    i prefer PS1 for more natural colors, Saturn has better view range tho

    • @WALDENSOFTWARE
      @WALDENSOFTWARE 5 років тому

      Isn't it the other way around?
      Saturn richer colors. PS1 more pale, but wider objects.

  • @aerogun18
    @aerogun18 7 років тому +27

    You're all out of your minds. The PS1 polygons tremble like crazy and black lines become visible all the time, which barely happens in the Saturn version, if at all.

    • @31leoceara
      @31leoceara 6 років тому +3

      Those gaps between polygon edges is what bothers me the most in Playstation games, along with the horrid texture distortion! Ugh!

    • @hristaki99
      @hristaki99 6 років тому

      Happens just as much on the Saturn. In fact, Saturn is the only console other than the PS1 that suffers from this issue.

    • @costumeninja1914
      @costumeninja1914 10 днів тому

      @@hristaki99way less on Saturn

  • @BAZFANSHOTHITSClassicTunes
    @BAZFANSHOTHITSClassicTunes 2 роки тому

    Its a close one, but i first played where it all started - The Saturn. For pure nostalgia the Saturn for me is the winner - and that music is iconic on both systems.

  • @ciredecgellar8232
    @ciredecgellar8232 6 років тому +4

    loving the Saturn don't mean "be not objective" the PS1 version is smoother, the framerate is better. Tomb Raider is a good game in both system, technically quickly surpass by others games in both either, but visually, the PS version is better.

    • @jamespong6588
      @jamespong6588 5 років тому +2

      ciredec Gellar what are you even talking about, PlayStation can't even keep the vertices they blink and even fall apart, holes everywhere! PlayStation has better sound & that's about it, everything else is worse

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 4 роки тому

      @@jamespong6588 the Saturn version isn't bug free either. Although the Playstation version has a big aliasing problem and the perspectives corrections are nonexistent. However, the textures are still finer, I'm not saying that the difference is huge, but it's overall smoother.

    • @jamespong6588
      @jamespong6588 4 роки тому

      ciredec Gellar I think it all comes down to what we experienced as a child,
      Stay safe bud!

  • @blabo6427
    @blabo6427 5 років тому +2

    I have the two versions and in PS1 the game look way better but the control response in Saturn wins.

  • @ppgranja3
    @ppgranja3 7 років тому +3

    O jogo esta bem mais bonito no PS1, e cada TR depois desse ainda foi ficando mais bem feito...

  • @afriend9428
    @afriend9428 4 роки тому +2

    *SEGA SATURN for the win and another fing because English company PAL copies were Full screen too*

    • @BurnBird1
      @BurnBird1 4 роки тому

      Your words say one thing, but your profile picture tells another story?

    • @afriend9428
      @afriend9428 4 роки тому +2

      BurnBird *Ha! ha! ha! I hated SONY at 1st but I love ALL machines now!*

  • @Corsa15DT
    @Corsa15DT 5 років тому +1

    why does the PS have smoother edges of the lines?

  • @LeoStrife
    @LeoStrife 7 років тому +3

    A versão Saturn tem melhores efeitos na água, na versão PSX não há distorção causada pela água, só presente na versão Saturn, as cores são mais vivas no Saturn, mas a versão PSX conta com mais polígonos e fps mais constantes.
    Mas ambas ficam muito aquém do que se consegue na versão PC rodando em Glide... e se colocar os mods então...

    • @sheltontristania
      @sheltontristania 7 років тому

      Leo Strife comparar Saturn e Psx com PC é meio complicado, fora isso, concordo com tudo que tu disse.

    • @HielUFF
      @HielUFF 2 місяці тому

      La versiond e saturn tiene mas carga poligonal que la de ps1

  • @MEDZFactor
    @MEDZFactor 4 роки тому +1

    The game believe it or not, was originally going to be a saturn exclusive early in it’s development because Core couldn’t get the green light from Sony for a PlayStation release.

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps Рік тому

      Well, it was actually released first on Saturn, albeit only two weeks before the PlayStation (and DOS) version. I imagine the Saturn release may have been delayed whilst the PlayStation version was made too.

  • @raydenedge4569
    @raydenedge4569 7 років тому +3

    Me quedo con la versión original, la de Saturn. La de Psx salió un tiempo después y obviamente mejoraron algunos detalles, pero no era lo mismo. Lo que me provocó cuando jugué por primera vez en la Saturn fue glorioso! Me hubiera encantado ver el 2 también. Lástima que sony compró la exclusividad por unos años

  • @MadChristoph
    @MadChristoph Рік тому +1

    I didn't even know Tomb Raider was on the Saturn, but I will say it is pretty good

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps Рік тому +2

      Original and best version. Released 2wks before other versions.

    • @DisasterMaster3K
      @DisasterMaster3K 9 місяців тому

      @@goatlpsfunny cause the Saturn only had the first part but didn’t have the hardware to run its sequels

    • @jetfrog4574
      @jetfrog4574 9 місяців тому

      @@DisasterMaster3K The Saturn was the superior 3D machine of its generation.

    • @DisasterMaster3K
      @DisasterMaster3K 9 місяців тому

      @@jetfrog4574 thats why they only released the first tomb raider game and not the sequels?

    • @DisasterMaster3K
      @DisasterMaster3K 9 місяців тому

      @@jetfrog4574 you might want to rethink your comment. The Saturn only had the first tomb raider game. The hardware couldn’t handle the 2nd or 3rd game.

  • @alexbrito5511
    @alexbrito5511 5 років тому +2

    Congratulations on the great content.

  • @parappatherapper4141
    @parappatherapper4141 3 роки тому +5

    To me, the Saturn version is almost unplayable nowadays, and I'm a big Saturn fan, but you cannot deny that it ran better on PS. That framerate in the Sega console is horrible, I just can't stand it.

  • @Mr_x_19922
    @Mr_x_19922 7 років тому +3

    I played both versions, the frame rate in the saturn version seems slower, and the textures have better quality on the psx version., the saturn version has brighter colors

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 3 роки тому

      The Saturn was also incapable of transparencies, which is why the water effects look much better on the PS1.

    • @steveo5174
      @steveo5174 3 роки тому +2

      I feel the water was better on the Saturn. The save Crystals looked better on PlayStation.

    • @Mr_x_19922
      @Mr_x_19922 3 роки тому

      @@steveo5174 Agree, crystals were render in 3D, and Satrun had a hard tiem doing that

    • @ultimonivel328
      @ultimonivel328 3 роки тому

      Yes, Saturn framerate is horrible

    • @ThePolicenaut
      @ThePolicenaut 2 роки тому +2

      @@Rocket1377 The saturn can do transparencies but apparently its not so easy and the water effects look better on the saturn to my eyes

  • @Crystallums
    @Crystallums 3 роки тому

    Both consoles do a great job for the time, but considering that I met this wonderful game on the PS1, I prefer the latter, since it has better colors and finishes in general, because I have very good memories of the gray girl, although I recognize everything the potential of the Saturn.

  • @oneminutefixed5003
    @oneminutefixed5003 2 роки тому

    bought my first 3dfx card to run this and carmaggedon, i nearly cried when i saw the improvements

  • @ferna2294
    @ferna2294 5 років тому

    They only downside on the PS1 are the polygon lines going through eachother on the scenary in certain parts, which was common in PS1.

  • @Rafael_Francisco
    @Rafael_Francisco 4 роки тому +1

    PSX was better for 3D games, his polygons are smoothier. But I prefered Saturn visuals underwater.

  • @rinaldodaveiga
    @rinaldodaveiga 7 років тому +2

    voltando em grande estilo!!!! \o/

  • @parazels83
    @parazels83 4 роки тому +2

    Water and textures are miles better on Saturn.

  • @davidhiram8045
    @davidhiram8045 7 років тому +1

    Your channel it's awsome!

  • @matthewhaverly3108
    @matthewhaverly3108 5 років тому +5

    The PlayStation had a geometric polygon engine.. it's clear to see it's far less blocky and smoother looking on the PlayStation.. also PlayStation version had a better frame rate

    • @dylanhughes5435
      @dylanhughes5435 5 років тому +3

      I don't know what you're on about. The PS1 version has gaps between geometry and no Z buffer while the saturn version looks just like the PC version with lower resolution

    • @jamespong6588
      @jamespong6588 5 років тому +2

      Matthew Haverly vertices disappear blink and have HOLES!!

    • @Unethical.FandubsGames
      @Unethical.FandubsGames 5 років тому +1

      @@dylanhughes5435 you are blind

  • @Belpowerslave
    @Belpowerslave 7 місяців тому

    It's wild, the Saturn version actually looks better during the training area in the mansion, especially with those water effects, but once the game starts it just falls apart. This is coming from someone who only had the Saturn version back in the day...

  • @CosmoCircleTv
    @CosmoCircleTv 6 років тому

    Sega saturn version have a better contrast tone, and proper darkness for the game...
    While the playstastion have a better polygon definition but also a lot of shaking and texture glitches...
    like looking at the walls while you move, its very easy to notice in the psx version black lines between textures...
    something you dont see in the saturn, the 3d ,map is solid and doesn't display such glitches.
    Also, just pause the image at 9:28, now lets compare both... saturn not only have a more sharp look of the textures as the whiter parts of each texture apears bright in the dark, which in my opinion makes a nice effect, since after all you are exploring caves...
    pausing again at 10:01, you can see the total lack of environment shadows on the playstation... turning the map absolutely bland and boring..
    while in the Sega Saturn the darkness of the cave, helps not only to immersion but also to add a bit of tense feel to exploration...
    for this, without doubt the saturn version is a better experience, in the playstation version for some reason they made the mistake of trying to soften up the display removing contrast and sharpness, which was a mistake, since the psx version almost looks like a game being played in the editor or engine before the Lighting/ shadow maps are rendered.

  • @mikeeone5649
    @mikeeone5649 4 роки тому

    Saturn has better draw distance , lighting , and water effects.They are both so similar though thats just nit picking.
    I for one never did like tomb raider.I actually rented this for my sega saturn played it once , and went back to Guardian heros and Ultimate mortal kombat 3 lol.
    If you wanted 3-d adventure the 64 was the way to go. Man I will tell you one thing sitting here thinking about everything people who grew up in the 80s and got to see the biggest change in video games.We went from single screen games .To scrolling games on the Nes .Then we saw that beefed up with the Genesis and SNES .Then we also saw the first 3-d polygon games for home system.Virtua racing and star fox lol.
    Then we went to the 32 bit /64 bit era. We saw the 64 make old things new again in 3-d. We got to see almost arcade perfect ports on the Saturn and Playstation.Even if they were lacking just a tad in something .I could rarely tell lol.

  • @ritadoni17
    @ritadoni17 7 років тому +1

    PSX is better in all ways..but in saturn version when you swim looks better

  • @sickpup820
    @sickpup820 3 роки тому +1

    Saturn version for me, darker atmosphere.

    • @bensmith5288
      @bensmith5288 3 роки тому +1

      The Saturn has worse textures amd has a lower frame rate .. you are talking shit

  • @kamilciura7953
    @kamilciura7953 3 роки тому +4

    These both have different strengths, but I like Saturn version presentation a bit better. I may be mistaken, but it looks like it is running in a lower resolution? Still, the texture warping and polygon flickering issues are not as prevalent as on PS1. It does have crushed blacks, but better draw distance and underwater effects. No that I would go back to play any of these (Lara controls like tank in the PS1 era games), but from today's perspective, I'm simply more impressed by technical aspects of Saturn version.

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 3 роки тому +2

      I would still like a remaster of these games on modern consoles, to celebrate the 25th anniversary. I think if they did a bundle of all three trilogies (TR1-3, Legend-Anniversary-Underworld, and the 2013-18 reboot trilogy), it would sell really well.

    • @kamilciura7953
      @kamilciura7953 3 роки тому +1

      @@Rocket1377 to be honest, year 1996 was so exceptional in gaming and so many classics have came out back then, I'm amazed no company seemed to get an idea of remastering these for modern platforms in "25 year anniversary" manner so far.
      Imo 1996 was the single most important year in history of videogames.

    • @Reds-Retros
      @Reds-Retros 2 роки тому

      Yeah agreed, I overall prefer the look of the Saturn version, although I imagine the lack of flares in TR 1 would make the that version a bit more frustrating in the darker areas.

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps Рік тому +1

      @@Rocket1377 nobody needs the modern 'reboot' games remade. Firstly, they look and play fine. Secondly, they alienated the original's fanbase, as they had virtually nothing to do with Tomb Raider, tomb-raiding, or Lara Croft. The modern games are vastly technically superior, with much better gameplay, but they're just 3rd person shooters featuring a flat-chested girl - nothing's related to the appeal of the original. They just hijacked the licence to make money off the name, mostly.

  • @nakano15
    @nakano15 7 років тому +1

    Graphically, PSX wins, now in matter of ambient lighting, Saturn wins.

  • @hababacon
    @hababacon 7 років тому +4

    Damn this game hasn't age well at all. At any rate, PS1 version seem slightly smoother, better FMV, and a bit brighter.

    • @retroboy-fh1ji
      @retroboy-fh1ji 6 років тому +4

      What? This game its very playable imo. Maybe the graphics don't look good anymore, but the story, action and gameplay still are great

  • @Sly2Cooper
    @Sly2Cooper 7 років тому +7

    Digital Foundry has already made a thorough research on TR1.
    The result is PSX version being better in frame rate (stable 30fps on PSX vs 15-20fps on Saturn) lighting, textures, sound and color depth.
    Sorry diehard Sega fans but Saturn version is inferior in every way in TR.

    • @WildMorgan
      @WildMorgan 7 років тому +5

      Sly2Cooper Yep, the PS version is superior, but the Saturn version is only using one of the Saturn's CPUs. Not bad considering. If Core Design had actually utilised both, we would have seen a much better Saturn version. But it matters not what could have been, only what was.

    • @nmarques7885
      @nmarques7885 5 років тому

      On the saturn: the PAL version for the saturn was never optimized for PAL, which runs at 50hz unlike the NTSC at 60hz. The NTSC versions do play at 30 fps. Why do you gun down the console (saturn) because of a serious fault of the software house (thats what we call a money grab)?

  • @cameroonya1
    @cameroonya1 7 років тому +10

    Very good 3d for the Saturn.

    • @retroboy-fh1ji
      @retroboy-fh1ji 6 років тому +3

      Nope. This is very weak for the console. Remember that Saturn its technically more powerful than the PlayStation. The issue was that was hard to develop for. But the 3D on the original saturn version is weak.

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 3 роки тому

      @Fabricio Vega:
      You need to keep in mind that this game was developed for the PC, and ported to consoles. The PlayStation was capable of so much more as well. It's unfair to say that it looks bad on Saturn, when it wasn't built from the ground up using Saturn hardware. It still looks fantastic, and almost as good as the PS1 version.

    • @KrashyKharma
      @KrashyKharma 3 роки тому +2

      @@Rocket1377 I don't know if we're watching the same video or not, but the Saturn version is consistently *way* better than the PSX version. The textures are way more detailed with significantly better lighting and color pallette. The PSX version looks super grayed out and bland a lot of the time. It's like the difference between Sonic Adventure for Dreamcast vs Gamecube, something got horribly lost in translation when it comes to shading and textures.
      I can't for the life of me see how yall are even considering which one is better and not seeing it as the Saturn

    • @ohjoshua67
      @ohjoshua67 3 роки тому

      @@KrashyKharma Well, The lighting on the Saturn isn't better than the PlayStation version. And the lighting is most likely due to the Transparencies.

    • @KrashyKharma
      @KrashyKharma 3 роки тому

      @@ohjoshua67 Well, the lighting on the PS is ugly and bland, due to the brightness being way too high.

  • @swafflemanish
    @swafflemanish 6 років тому

    The Sega Saturn version is like someone trying to play the maximum settings on a system that can't do it. The textures are actually better, and there is more detail on the character models and the environments. The colors are also richer. It does start out darker, but people don't realize that you can adjust the gamma settings and it becomes identical lighting wise to the playstation version. The only crime it commits is a lower frame rate, but it is perfectly playable. I have no issues with the controls on the Saturn version. Also, some transparency stuff is missing, but there are some cool water effects on the Saturn that aren't on the other ones.

  • @DerTypausBielefeld
    @DerTypausBielefeld Рік тому

    Non of the console versions back then were ever comparable to pc version, for the were just shrunk down versions of the original game. It was like forcing you to play your game on the lowest settings. But this point aside, I never expected that: I actually slidly favor the Play Station version, just for one reason, the look in the distances is not as appealing as it was in both the pc and Play Station version. Everything else was a bit better on the Saturn, but this and the fact that it was sometimes to dark made the Play Station version surperior.

  • @sonicthejetsetbeat7465
    @sonicthejetsetbeat7465 7 років тому +7

    They both look good but the Saturn version on the loading screen all i gotta say is "Woohoooohhh, Laura!"

  • @alexanerwalls3757
    @alexanerwalls3757 7 років тому +1

    noticing a bit of graphical glitching on the psone version that isn't present at all in the saturn version.

  • @ViciousAlienKlown
    @ViciousAlienKlown Рік тому

    I first played this game on the Saturn. and it actually looks and plays better than the PS1 version. I have the PS1 version....on my PSP.

    • @DisasterMaster3K
      @DisasterMaster3K 9 місяців тому +2

      Lol you must be joking

    • @ViciousAlienKlown
      @ViciousAlienKlown 9 місяців тому

      @@DisasterMaster3K Pretty much, the Saturn version is choppier and grainy compared to the Playstation version. But it's how I first played the game.

  • @DTM-Books
    @DTM-Books 6 років тому +9

    Looking at a UA-cam video today, it seems that both versions are nearly identical, with slight advantages to one system or another. Back in 1996, however, it wasn't even close. PSX stomped all over the poor Saturn. I don't remember finding any Saturn Tomb Raider fans back then. Today, the competition is a bit more even, but that's mostly because the technology is very outdated and people are more forgiving of any visual faults.
    Short, short version: Saturn TR has longer draw distance, sharper color contrast and cool water distortion effects. Playstation has smoother colors, better shading and a higher framerate (30 vs 20 fps). Either way, it's a classic videogame that is a bit rough on the eyes, but still has its charms. There's that sense of isolation and just being lost in the middle of nowhere that's quite thrilling. I'm reminded a little of Minecraft in that sense. Yeah, that's where TR needs to go, not towards bad action movies, but Minecraft. Let's see Lara Croft square off against the Creepers.

  • @nattoze2195
    @nattoze2195 7 років тому +1

    A única coisa que o Saturn vence e na Água, ela tem uns efeitos bem bonitos, coisa que o ps1 não tem ( em 5:10 ).

    • @paulosoares6186
      @paulosoares6186 6 років тому

      Soul Evans nao isso foi porque a cor da agua na sega nao existe equanto na da ps1 tem o cor azul ou verde nesse caso tem a cor verde

  • @OlivierGrasakaolo
    @OlivierGrasakaolo 7 років тому +3

    The ps1 version obviously have way better textures, with better color depth, and run smoother. But the saturn is less prone to distorsion, is way more atmospheric and contrasted (the ps1 version is too bright for its own good) and the saturn had the best controller ever. Even if technically the ps1 tomb raider is superior, i still prefer to play the saturn version, for the better pad and better atmosphere.

  • @Fabiogamer
    @Fabiogamer 7 років тому +1

    Queria que você fizesse se possivel a comparação do Juiced 2 PS2 vs PS3 e XBOX 360 vs PS3 vs PC.
    Ninguem fez até agora comparação desse jogo no youtube e creio que tenha diferença de gerações!

  • @lurkerrekrul
    @lurkerrekrul 7 років тому +3

    Going solely by this video, the graphics on the PS1 version look cleaner with less jaggies, but it has more obvious texture seams.

    • @benwyatt7619
      @benwyatt7619 4 роки тому

      John Huffington The sound effects are noticeably worse on the Saturn with a lower bitrate, crackling and popping. The colours on the PlayStation are a. Bit better.

    • @benwyatt7619
      @benwyatt7619 4 роки тому

      John Huffington Okay so the colours may be a subjective thing but the sounds on PlayStation most definitely have a higher bitrate and that is fact.

  • @doomster706
    @doomster706 5 років тому +2

    I prefer the PS1 version, but this is a great looking game for the Saturn. It shows the 3D potential the system had when developers understood the hardware.

  • @SDSOverfiend
    @SDSOverfiend 7 років тому +4

    Ps1. Smoother poly edges and Great transparency effects

    • @eliasnicolasmiranda4940
      @eliasnicolasmiranda4940 7 років тому +1

      smoother poly edges and transparency effects something that the Saturn lacks
      thats why the Saturn is not good on 3D it was made to be good on 2D games

    • @andrewpetr
      @andrewpetr 7 років тому

      SDS Overfiend
      You're right

    • @andrewpetr
      @andrewpetr 7 років тому

      SDS Overfiend you're right

    • @SDSOverfiend
      @SDSOverfiend 7 років тому +1

      hogasproductions Stop it. Just stop it. I love Saturn but I know ps1 looked better

    • @SDSOverfiend
      @SDSOverfiend 7 років тому

      hogasproductions So just say Eidos have no idea on how to use Sega's hardware

  • @scottjohnnyhelgemoaune2951
    @scottjohnnyhelgemoaune2951 4 роки тому +1

    Why doesn’t anyone talk about The Saturn? They kind of jump directly from Genesis to Dreamast

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 3 роки тому +2

      The Saturn was a financial flop, as it was more expensive that it's competitors and had a terrible marketing campaign. A shame, because it had a bigger library of games than the Nintendo 64, and is an excellent console. I got mine cheap back in 1996 (it was reduced to a third of its original price in less than a year), and it is still one my favourite consoles of all time.

    • @scottjohnnyhelgemoaune2951
      @scottjohnnyhelgemoaune2951 3 роки тому

      @@Rocket1377 that makes sense. But glad that you enjoy it😀👍

    • @steveo5174
      @steveo5174 3 роки тому +1

      The Saturn is what started Sega's downfall. I owned a Saturn when they first came out and I was always happy with my choice.
      The only reason I also bought a PlayStation was for Gran Turismo.

  • @Cong-j9k
    @Cong-j9k 6 місяців тому

    There’s no transparency in the Saturn version but there’s water warping effects.

  • @ailtonpassos9020
    @ailtonpassos9020 7 років тому +2

    Excelente já estou aguardando o tomb raider na versão Dreamcast vs ps1

    • @juliosouza1494
      @juliosouza1494 2 роки тому +1

      Aí fica difícil comparar já que o Dreamcast tem muito mais recursos que o PlayStation 1.

    • @ailtonpassos9020
      @ailtonpassos9020 2 роки тому

      @@juliosouza1494 a diferença é grande mas não é esmagadora, veja o spider man ps1 vs dreamcast.

  • @facanacaveira22
    @facanacaveira22 4 роки тому +1

    Lembro que a gente comentava na escola : "gráfico realista pra c@ar@lho" kkkkk hoje em dia é até difícil de jogar .

  • @infinitewisdom8594
    @infinitewisdom8594 3 роки тому

    Playstation has smoother graphics and better FPS,the saturn has better muddy grime on the walls and the colourful water effects are truely amazing,but the ps1 version is superior due to the cleaner look and performance

  • @Alucard_BR
    @Alucard_BR 4 роки тому +1

    A versão do ps1 percebesse que tem menos polígonos, as paredes são mais lisas e menos pixalizadas, a versão do Saturno tem mais quadrados

  • @VocaloidFantasy
    @VocaloidFantasy 7 років тому

    Conseguiu arrumar seu HD?

  • @RetroGames4K
    @RetroGames4K 4 роки тому

    I prefer the textures and color on the playstation, but both good versions.

  • @rafinhasr31
    @rafinhasr31 4 роки тому +1

    Mto bacana, sou fã desse canal

  • @dobry-cat
    @dobry-cat Рік тому

    кто бы что ниговорил но, tr1 на ps1 получще реализован как по звуку так и по графике!
    это можно например даже заметить сравнивая там в игре на кристале сохранения процесса между двумя консолями, на ps1 эти эффекты отблеска тогда удивляли и ещё когда Лара превращается в золото на одном из уровня, на сатурне это все тускло выглядит кроме эффекта воды оно там полностью в движение реализовано и лучше чем у ps1 (так как на сони вода там в своей основе статично а, движится только поверхность прорисовки текстуры и освещения теней для мнимой видимости пространства воды

  • @rkjer
    @rkjer 3 роки тому +1

    Sega was a better system, more powerful and better rendering... it’s too bad it failed..

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 3 роки тому

      It was too expensive, had less third party support from developers (partly because the hardware was more difficult to program with), very few "killer app" games, and a terrible marketing campaign. A shame, as I loved the Saturn.