@@JohnBradley-y9y Is your fuel tank explosion proof? Since gas cars are over 10 x more likely to catch fire I hope for you they are. Unless you're kind of suicidal.
I have been watching BYD for a while now. We have a KIA EV6 AWD which is a great car, but for our 2nd car, I am waiting for the BYD Shark to hit our shores. With BYD now adding 800VDC architecture and increased LFP Blade capacity in the 2025 models, I would not be surprised if BYD becomes the market leader in Australia.
The issue is none of the BYD cars excel in anything. Low energy density battery, less efficient, heavy, less frequent software updates, slow charging to name a few. I am hoping with the new battery, it will become more competitive.
@@JohnBradley-y9y that's ok, fool, good luck to you, just don't have any baby, or the world will be in trouble 🙏. Enough of my time. "Do not correct a fool, or he will hate you; correct a wise man, and he will appreciate you."
I like the seal it looks like a proper car, a lot of EV cars look pretty silly. If i hadn't planned to do something else, i would have looked at buying one of these Seal performance cars.
I'm enjoying my Dynamic. The speed recognition needs an update thou. Very happy overall. Just got solar panels installed at home (waiting for new meter) and was very nice to just go for a Sunday drive because I could.
@@pentaverse8628 I live in a regional area so my choices are limited and more so by availability of installers. Sunboost but with Fronius inverter (installers unable to install with optimal system layout).
@@pentaverse8628 30x440w panels with 10kw inverter on 2 orientations (20 sub optimal as on a flat roof). For 3 months will only operate at 80% but so much better than nothing😃
I have mine in Greece for 2 monthe and 4300kms. I have to say the same. Last week we took the 2403 update. Dont switch off nothing either. I enjoy the car everyday. With the update I felt it more good at handling. My longest journey was 450km, with speed from 130 to 170 per hour. Did one stop for 20min and off I go... With 42 deegres.. I want to have the lane keeping change as you mentioned and the navigation to take in considetarion the battery Level and the destination so it can tell you where to stop. Also as you said the roof here in Greece in hot summer dont getting hot.. Hope you get 11kw as we have here in Europe... Cheers from Greece. George
Thanks for sharing your experience from Greece! Try this fix for decent EV trip planning: A Better Route Planner Live Data OBD2 Review in BYD Seal Apple CarPlay ua-cam.com/video/WYRc0o7n8Sk/v-deo.html
Funny you should mention EVs in Greece. Heading over next month and hiring a car for a two-day return trip from Athens to Chalcis, where we intend to intend to drive around Euboea for those two days. However, looks like the EV infrastructure in Euboea is very minimal, with the public chargers which do exist limited to 20 MW stations. Does that sound right in your experience of charging in Greece? Also, hiring a car for a day to drive around Crete later in the trip. Efharisto
@@jarrodf_ Hello ...In Euboea indeed there are no DC public chargers, only in chalkis some AC's. I would recommend to hire a non EV car....But if you can arrange with your hotel to have it charged at nighttime, then wouldnt be a problem.........But again in order to enjoy the vacation there.....No EV for me in that situation! Again in Crete for a full day of driving, although there are chargers, i would gt again for a non EV car..In my situation ( I live in Ioannina, and i have i house at the island called Lefkada, where also there arent DC chargers) i charge at home every other night...So in both situation i wouldnot go for an EV.....I hope you have a great vacation!!!!
@g_liout3923 Efharisto poli. Yes, that was my conclusion, too. (Ended up going with an Audi A4 (manual) - which was surprisingly cheap, relative to others, at ~€250 for 2 daya)... Otherwise, I'm sure an EV in Athens it would be fine, but as you say, probably a bit of a challenge outside, travelling on longer road trips... Thanks again. Certainly very much looking forward. Yassou
Good review Tom, your reviews are worth a lot more than most, because you review it based on the way you use it, which is how most people use an EV. Not just endless twisty roads, with an over reliance on a cars handling as well as efficiency measures and range estimates that are only based on highway speed driving.
@@LudicrousFeed be interested to see how its going in 3 to 5 years time if you still have it , while it is interesting to see how they run at 6 months or a year , they are still basically brand new , long term tells more of a story you know what I mean . the teslas don't have a jack and spare wheel , are the BYD models equipped with a spare ? some people are not fussed by not having a spare , but to me it is a deal breaker .
Glad you are still happy with the Seal, Tom. I just viewed the Sealion and am excited for the Sealion 7 to come. The one thing I liked in the Sealion interior over the Seal is that the driver’s display is in a proper visor rather than being plonked on top of the dash like an afterthought.
V2L is another huge plus of this vehicle. I had a 5-hour power outage this week and was able to power my living room as normal from my Seal and carry on with what I was doing, with TV etc. in the background (while the rest of the neighbourhood was in pitch-black darkness). V2L also means I've been able to get rid of all my gas gear and go fully electric (induction hob, lights, fridge, coffee machine) for day trips and car-camping. Although the car REALLY needs a 'CAMPING MODE' where it can continuously supply 12 VDC (for fridge) and 5 VDC (USB) when the car is locked/unattended - powered from the more efficient DC-DC converter rather than the inefficient DC-AC inverter. (Just having the V2L adapter plugged into the car, even with no 240VAC devices plugged in, uses ~2kWh per day, which is a high overhead when just charging a phone or running an efficient 240VAC/12VDC fridge).
🤪The maximum power of BYD V2L is 6KW, which is more than enough to support the electricity consumption of the entire house. What fascinating circuit and battery technology.
Thanks for the video. I also bought a BYD Seal a few months ago (I am resident of Brazil). Great car. Loving it. The ICC I turned off before it'd drive me mad.
Thank you for your detailed reviews - your earlier ones definitely helped us take the plunge and get a Seal with the novated lease. Such great value and a real pleasure to drive. Lots of people at work very interested in the car with many questions (and compliments!).
Been very happy with my Premium after just over a month (minus a few days at the panelbeaters after copping a scratch at the school drop-off). I usually listen to podcasts on the way to/from work so the sound system hasn’t bothered me although even for music I find it “good enough”. Just tipped over 1500km and looking forward to heading to south west WA for a few nights next week.
@@LudicrousFeed Thanks Tom! Happily the other party waited around to give me their details, and since we were both with the same insurer it was easy to sort it. And luckily for me there’s an EV specialist repairer 3km from home who not only had it done in three days, they charged up my car. Never had a full tank of petrol from a panel beater or garage!
The reason why I bought a Tesla was due to their Supercharger network. I've never been disappointed when arriving at a supercharger. I've tried some other chargers and most are working. But when they're out of order it can be very stressful.
I notice that few people ever comment on this but an absolute deal breaker for me in not getting a Tesla Model 3 was the lack of a front camera!! Further the lack of indicator stalks and a front panel while not deal breakers pushed me to get the Seal Premium which has all these things and more (HUD). The only things I prefer about the Tesla are its auto-park and FSD both which are unavailable in the Seal.
Well, Autopark and “FSD” is also currently unavailable for Tesla vehicles in Australia
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I am owning a BYD Dolphin since 10 months (23,000 km) and I am very impressed about the quality. My complaints are also the software and ADAS, which is quite over-sensitive. I heard, that the Seal is better. But I will try lane-keep-assist again after seeing your video.
@@morganangel340 When I say ADAS, I’m not really referring to the ICC (although that’s not great either) - it was more to do with the lane keeping and emergency braking alerts/manoeuvres during regular driving that were initially potentially dangerous - this has now been rectified thankfully
This South African approves of your videos. I just wish BYD can launch the Seal here, so far we have the Dolphin and the Atto3. R899990 the asking price for the Atto3.
@@thetad1242 you'll thank the SA government for slapping so much taxes on this car to protect BMW and MB manufacturers selling more locally than the export prices
Lovely review, Tom! I've been checking out all your UA-cam videos, and I'm a big fan. I booked my BYD Seal Premium after seeing your reviews. Just like you, I went for the White and BYD Premium. Thanks for the detailed videos! :) Quick question: Can we remove the middle passenger headrest in the back? I didn't check this during my test drive here in India.
Good to hear that there are no regrets Tom :) I bought my Performance knowing about the Telsa Supercharger network issue, it wasn't a deal breaker then, but very glad to hear that it's going to be attended to. Charging by solar is good though our solar system is coming on 9 years old now, has paid for itself well & truly but would need an upgrade to be more efficient with the car charging. As it is, we have single phase wiring at home (coming on 70 year old house) & without rewiring the house, the best the installed wallcharger will do is about 4kw (better than the trickle charger) at 20amps, so not going to hit that 7kw max the Seal can take. Again, it's how the house is wired, a known issue, not a deal breaker & has never made me have to run down to a local DC charger. Just needs a bit of active manual monitoring during the day when working from home (eg., taking advantage of a daylight free period from my energy retailer) & setting up the midnight to 6am charge as needed. The only issue I have with the Seal isn't mine but that of my partner who is in the market for a car now that her Audi has had the last rites, but she won't look at an EV, despite her acknowledged comfort & performance of the Seal as a passenger, she wants gears, tactile dials & analogue speedo etc, not touchscreens & digital displays. That's another battle for another day, lol. So I knew what I was getting when I put the order in just before Christmas last year & how the car is 5 months later after delivery has only gotten better :) And when 2403 is installed & the Supercharging fix installed, it will be better again. Think of how many other cars you can hand on heart say are better 6 months after you bought them (without spending a lot of money in aftermarket parts), that would be a very small list
@@rob1733 I touch on it briefly toward the end of this video: Home EV Charging Setup Update | Origin EV Power Up | Ocular IQ Home ua-cam.com/video/fQeR0hQmWbk/v-deo.html - you will need a solar charger such as the Ocular IQ Home with a power meter equipped with CT clamps to your home solar inverter. I’ll do a dedicated follow up vid shortly …
Hi Tom, thanks for sharing the long term experience. One q, with the AC do you leave it swing automatically or you keep changing settings? Is it good enough in automatic swing?
I have admired your balanced view of this vehicle and the brand in general. I appreciate you are super educated, but I would still argue it's very hard to offer this sort of viewpoint when you have been so immersed in a compelling ecosystem like Tesla. Its a little like an iPhone guy getting his first Android. Your vox pops have been fair and balanced as far as I can tell. I have enjoyed them, well done.
Why is Andriod Auto lacking in most new cards? According to the latest data, Android dominates the global smartphone market with a 70.69% share, while iPhone (iOS) has a 28.58% market share.
I concur with the ADAS improvements. With the last update, I'm so happy that the speed sign warnings can be turned off permanently now. My main remaining gripe is that wireless Android Auto can cut in and out. Otherwise, very pleased with my Seal.
I had my 3 month service 2 months ago and I am still chasing up weekly for a warranty fix (couple of hardware issues). It’s great that most people’s experience with their seal has been positive. But when you actually have a problem with your seal, their communication is horrendous.
Haha yes activating Wireless CarPlay requires some patience 😅 I had a few tips: Wireless Apple CarPlay BYD Seal OTA Software Update 2403 V1.2 Review ua-cam.com/video/9jMvjwz0-dQ/v-deo.html
Not gonna lie, the Tesla Supercharger network is almost essential for alleviating EV range anxiety where available - whether it be Tesla, BYD or other brand
I noticed in my update yesterday, my audio reactive lighting now works with wireless Android Auto. It used to be static lighting unless i switched to bluetooth or radio. Small things but definitely moving forward
That six months seems to have flown by ! Must admit , I am not sure which I prefer the look of as far as the new M3 or BYD Seal goes . Perhaps the seal by a whisker. As far as my EV journey goes , I am still waiting for the Livewire to be repaired after the bump it got in February. I have also received the first power bill since having the Model 3 SR+ , $379.29 with no special EV Tarif or working PV solar system (my solar system stoped working in February). I have travled about 3100km in that time. The car that the M3 replaced for daily duties drank 95 or 98 RON at a rate of 13.5 to 14L per 100 km , it was costing me over $100 a week to feed.
Notice none of these reviewers ever get under the car and inspect the actual meat and bones of the vehicle. How is the suspension built? What kind of materials were used? Is the steel soft or hardened? There's reports in China of soft, brittle steel being used on their cars. They are falling apart. Looking at the interior is nice and all but put it on lift. Any car I have ever bought, the first thing I do is look under the car, then I drive it, then I look under the car some more.
If you want to see what’s under the car, check out my video: First BYD Seal Service at 3 months in Sydney Australia Premium Variant ua-cam.com/video/Jer8fxUI1GA/v-deo.html
The lease on my ICE car is ending early next year. Got the option to pay the balloon and keep the car or sell it and get a new car. Thinking of a change like an EV car which make sense on a new lease as there is currently no GST on EV and there is FBT exemption, that is the repayment is 100% deducted before taxable income for the duration of the lease which considerably reduce the cost of the EV. On the other side i have to think if its better to have an ICE or EV vehicle in terms of battery safety, ongoing cost (Insurance, Servicing, battery replacement etc.). Too much to think about for someone who hasn't drive an EV yet. While i have no doubt Tesla engineering is top notch, I kinda find inside a bit boring. I would prefer to have a Heads up display which i'm use to with my current car and also the console behind the steering wheel. I don't want to take my eyes off the road to watch the centre console everytime how fast i'm going. People say you'll get use to it but I don't think I will. Hopefully Model Y Juniper will bring some changes to my liking. If it is, then Tesla will be my first choice, otherwise will look into other model. I have been looking the Polestar 4 and will be interested to see what Xpeng and Sealion has to offer. Any good advice from you Tom?
He actually quite likes the car. His criticism was very specific, related to the lack of adequate cooling of the battery during DC fast charging. That said, the overall average charge rate for the Seal during his test was still high enough to have it rank reasonably well across all the cars he has tested.
@@vasil7410 I haven't watched his 1000km challenge yet, but I noticed in the other test he did recently the temnparature of the battery cells as an average between the minimum and maximum was probably lower than the Tesla over the charging curve, it was also only marginally slower to fully charge it compared to the NMC long range Tesla. When he craps on about rapid gating whenever he tests BYD products it just seems like a bit of an overreach and beatup to me. Tesla's whilst they don't charge particulalrly quickly are very efficient though so will travel further on a given charge which is also critical in the 1000km review.
So, I should put the ADAS fuses back in and give it a go? I might do that tomorrow and see how it goes. It's been nice driving a car that hasn't tried to do anything crazy I must say. I'm still a bit cautious about giving it control, but I'll see what can be turned off and kept off now.
@@LudicrousFeed Is yours the performance model? If so, does yours have the overly loud pump noise in the front when charging? I did a video on that, but still haven't got onto BYD to look into it. The K-Mart service guys aren't really BYD specialists, so they didn't know anything about it. I'd say it's a coolant pump, but it really shouldn't be loud.
I find the ICC to work fine on its own, but yea the lane keeping component is still way off where it needs to be. Useful in slow moving heavy traffic but not good to rely on when moving faster.
Will be interesting what the mid-cycle refresh brings, would hope they fix the 7kW AC and up that to 11kW AC. How are the tyres or does the Seal come with the Conti EcoContact 6 already? Also improvements in infotainment system would be good didn't know about the sound system, was never sure what it was like and not a huge sound guy myself I just usually take whatever the manufacturer provides and goes with it. Would you look at selling it say at the 12 month mark and perhaps a XPeng G6 with its crazy charge curve and can see how it compares to the Seal, different class of car obviously being a CUV vs a Sedan I realise.
Would you ever consider taking the car on a defensive and advanced driving course? It'd be a good way to demonstrate the safety features and dynamic abilities of current EVs. Highly recommend the one run by Driving Solutions at SMSP.
BYD should hire some western educated staffs to fasttrack their infotainment and user interface system. Chinese market and western market mindset are completely different and not everything is as simple as just a language conversion. The innuendos are different. It may take them another 12-18 months to make it industry standard according to west's standard which they will have to in order to increase their export. I test drove the Seal for Malaysian market couple weeks ago and you can feel the quirkiness in the user interface immediately, not an issue if you have intereact with their cars in their native language like me who stays a couple months a year in Shenzhen/Guandong but even in Malaysia they local buyers consists of ethnic Chinese and Malays are complaining the un-user friendly interface.
Can you comment on the suspension please? I own 2022 modelY and despite loving so many things about the car I simply feel the suspension is well below the standard.
I own a Seal U 2024 and what I can say is that the Infotainment system is great, for me at least, since I am a software engineer and I can install any app from the App Store. I even have ps2 games and a controller to play with it while charging. I can watch tv and use native apple music, waze with splitscreen, which is way better than using Apple CarPlay
I also have the Seal Premium and am very pleased with it so far. My only issue is the seat position selection as me and my wife use it daily. It would be good to have a simple button on the seat for option 1 & 2 rather than digging through menus.
BYD ICC uses 1 front camera and 3 mmWave radar sensors with less than 10TOPS processing power. It’s not their latest Dipilot system but definitely good enough at this price range.
You have a bigger charging loose due to only 1 phase ,230 Ac. With 2 or more phases you have 400 Vac between phases, there for the conversation to 400Vdc are more effective
We where talking about vampire drain during parking and it hit me that the doesn’t seem to suffer from this like the teslas and others. How’s yours doing?
thanks tom , heard your going to Edinburgh , huge family ties there. Very old city lots of history. most haunted city in the world check out the castle if you have time. safe trip.👍
Hi there, i pick up my seal tomorrow. I am a little excited, my first new car! I have a question about whether a tethered or untethered charger is best for me. I will be regularly undertaking relatively long road trips (450-500kms) and wonder whether having a type 2 to type 2 in the car is overkill or not. Cheers
I think it doesn’t hurt to have a Type 2 cable in the car if you’re doing regular long trips. I have a coupon code for this one: evse.com.au/product/5-metre-type-2-to-type-2-ev-charging-cable-22kw | Code: TESLATOM for 5% off site wide
Cheers, I along with many of our viewers have mentioned it in my other Seal vids - I didn’t want to labour the point. Some passengers actually find OPD uncomfortable with the harsher braking so I don’t personally think it’s a deal breaker. I usually turn it off anyway in some of the other press cars I’ve driven eg Hyundai Ioniq 5
Enjoyed your use of "binnacle" to refer to the instrument cluster. Is this word used in Australia? Few Americans would understand, unless you work in shipbuilding, where it refers to the ship's compass.
@LudicrousFeed ex auto guy here. The dash is the component that connects the A pillars. The regulated instruments, e.g speedo, odo etc are the "instrument cluster" , or instrument panel, or IP for short. The header unit, or infotainment display sits into the dashboard. Hope that helps
@LudicrousFeed mainly because I'm fed up with Elon Musk, his conspiracy theories and right-wing musings. I don't feel like putting any more cash into his pockets.
If you bought a car that is post March-2024 build then your Seal will be compatible and therefore not require an upgrade. Full details: ua-cam.com/video/w48zBLjv3g8/v-deo.html
How are the led headlights at night? I am used to Matrix led headlights in my cars, so would be nice if updated BYDs started including Matrix led headlights like Tesla and not just standard led.
Yes 150kW max for the BYD Seal Apparently the next Seal (known as Seal 07 - currently in testing in China) with the new Evo 3.0 platform has 800V architecture which will enable it to charge at 250kW speeds
I appreciate your point on the audio. Using the Dynaudio position tool I've needed to position the audio to around 3 ticks away from the absolute rear of the car and 1 tick to the left. I run Wavelet (though I'm sure there are non sideload alternatives for EQ with android auto) to balance out the audio better across channels to what I could hear...kinda left mids and pumped bass and more importantly treble. Finally pumped the treble to 9, mids at 3/2 (depending on the mood), left bass at 0 and lowered subbass to -2. Probably should check my car instead of guessing all this. I think it sounds somewhat respectable now, but doing radical changes and one sideload seems a bit much.
@@LudicrousFeed since my test drive a few months ago, audio on seal was a deal breaker. Even my Camry hybrid SL has a better and much crisp and loud audio than seal
I don't pretend to know every little detail that is performed at a car service but from what they showed me during my 1 month visit, it seemed quite thorough: ua-cam.com/video/Jer8fxUI1GA/v-deo.html They presumably also torque everything etc like they would for any other car
Great review, Tom. Had my premium for 2 weeks and loving it. How do you permanently turn off the Traffic sign recognition? Mine still requires turning off every start. I would have thought with my car being so new it would have the most recent software available?
Hi I enjoy your videos, very informative and helpful. I have a question though. Do you have any idea why most other EVs especially BYD don’t make the regenerative brakes stronger so it can bring the car to a stop without having to press the brake pedal, just like the Tesla? Thanks mate, keep up the good work.
On my recent trip to the UK, I parked our Model Y at Sydney Airport P7 with sentry mode turned off and it lost at most 5% over 3 weeks. I left my Seal at home unplugged and it barely lost any charge. My UK trip: 2024 EV Road Trip UK in Hyundai Ioniq 5 Fast Charging Range Efficiency ua-cam.com/video/_AGhRIQvwN8/v-deo.html If you leave Tesla Sentry Mode on in an airport carpark, you lose a lot of charge over a prolonged period: Here's The Right Way To Charge Your Tesla And Prolong Its Battery Life ua-cam.com/video/kVVYkprjqtQ/v-deo.html
Hey mate, I've been trawling your Seal videos but I can't see any comment comparing driving visualization preview? Trying to decide between keeping my Ora or switch to Seal (although ex 3 owner).
No sadly not ... Watch my video: ua-cam.com/video/INuMazD5vLA/v-deo.htmlsi=vxI8jLXaEXTA44Vn&t=382 The 'front car' is just a static image to toggle the distance to follow the car ahead
@@LudicrousFeed that's strange because even the Ora has side and back views although you have to turn it on.. sure we're not missing a setting somewhere?
Ever ran into rapid gate when the fastcharging drops to 80 from 150 when the battery hits 52C? Haven’t tested it fully in mine yet but seen some reviewers noticing this. Agree with you on the sound, it needs more clarity and precense in mids and highs. Lane keeping is ok but as a previous tesla owner I totaly agree with you. Highway no problems for me but yeah others roads are hit or miss.
@@LudicrousFeed Yeah I will go on a long trip next week and will test on the Ionity 400kW chargers, over powered yes sir. Seen car pulling 152-153 and reporting 149,2 into battery for a 25% charge so no way near getting hot during such a short charge session. My v3/v4 was fix with the 1.1 release so maby the hardware was already there. 1.2 now here in Sweden so just got the wireless apple car play, 🥳
Here’s my original comparison: 2024 Tesla Model 3 RWD Highland Update vs BYD Seal Premium Australia ua-cam.com/video/YAaKVAST3w4/v-deo.html But keep in mind the Seal has undergone a few OTA updates and is a better car than what it was at delivery
still waiting for my premium😢 its been 4 months of waiting here in indonesia😅 *there is a slight agreement issue between the goverment and BYD..but its already taken care of..
@@LudicrousFeed BYD need to open factory in indonesia by 2025, to avoid high taxes (and they can import maximum 20.000 unit per year) now total sales is around 5000 unit, pretty hot sales.. the issue is (not sure why but our officer top brass dont want to sign the agreement)
@@LudicrousFeed not just trucks , cars too , very exciting at highway speeds when you have a loaded kenworth behind you , you cannot trust these things . the other thing is , humans do not do well doing half tasks , if relying on the vehicle to do half the work humans tend to have the mind. wander off , lose alertness , and spatial awareness which is extremely dangerous , because when things go pear shaped and the car tries to steer you off road or phantom brake on a freeway.. All this technology sounds good until its not , but you need to stay on the ball mate . Stay safe .
@@LudicrousFeed both brand new. Its a genuine question. I was fixated on Seal until i went to test drive tesla and knowing the price.. Now i am so confused
It’s a difficult question to answer because the price point is important … but if you want me to answer a hypothetical, I’d say: If you’re after software/UX/app integration: go Tesla; if you’re after aesthetics/build/ride comfort/phone protection: go BYD
I got to go sit in a Seal today for the first time. I was too tall to fit. I’m so incredibly disappointed. The guy at the BYD showroom said “were you expecting S-class amounts of room?” 😮
@_Sensei_8 I asked the salesman and he said they plan on releasing one new model a year here. He wasn’t sure what was next, but he thought the Sea Lion was a likely candidate. I actually drive a 60kWh LEAF with no issues. I easily got into the Atto 3 there at the showroom too.
My experience 5 months in with the seal premium is similar to yours. Now about 11000km on the clock as a daily commuter Wollongong to Sydney and my only real gripe (aside from the traffic sign alerts, thank god I will be able to turn that off permanently soon!) is also the ICC. It has most definitely improved significantly from the suicidal state it was in originally and I am comfortable enough to use it on a straightish road, but a big issue I still have is that when you change lanes with ICC on it will assertively turn the wheel to (over-)"correct" your position in the lane (and then complain that you're out of the lane when it does over-correct), so need to make sure I have a prepared grip on the wheel. Otherwise amazing car, and I hope they keep iterating on that ICC as it has a lot of potential.
Great review, thanks. Waiting for sealion7, or Xiao Peng or Juniper…which one should I get Tom? I will be replacing my Y and love the autopilot yet I wish the I hope for a comfort seat
I have a friend who's eagerly waiting for the Sealion 7, wants to get one as his first EV. He's not a Tesla fan, not sure why, but the SL7 definitely looks good on paper! We also have the Atto 3 but he's not a fan of the interior, which of course is very subjective.
In Australia, it depends on where and when you charge … Scenario 1: At home, if you’re charging from solar - it’s essentially 5c/kWh x ~15-17 kWh/100km efficiency = 75-85c Scenario 2: Specialised EV plan (Origin, Ovo, AGL) - 8c/kWh x ~15-17kWh/100km = $1.20-$1.36 Scenario 3: Public DC charging can be up to ~80c/kWh x 15-17kWh = $12-$13.60 And everything in between!
I recently posted my current home charging setup: Home EV Charging Setup Update | Origin EV Power Up | Ocular IQ Home ua-cam.com/video/fQeR0hQmWbk/v-deo.html
@@LudicrousFeed also look very premium. I just bought a ix3 BMW for my wife, I would have preferred the seal but she likes the SUV style and sitting up higher.
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@@LudicrousFeed I did, it was $3600.
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@@JohnBradley-y9y Is your fuel tank explosion proof? Since gas cars are over 10 x more likely to catch fire I hope for you they are. Unless you're kind of suicidal.
@@JohnBradley-y9y Gas doesn’t burn either?
@@JohnBradley-y9y Any bet that my car is way cheaper to run anyway (10 years old, 390.000km). And no, I don't have comprehensive.
I have been watching BYD for a while now. We have a KIA EV6 AWD which is a great car, but for our 2nd car, I am waiting for the BYD Shark to hit our shores. With BYD now adding 800VDC architecture and increased LFP Blade capacity in the 2025 models, I would not be surprised if BYD becomes the market leader in Australia.
It’s certainly introducing many more models into the Australian market in the near term …
The issue is none of the BYD cars excel in anything. Low energy density battery, less efficient, heavy, less frequent software updates, slow charging to name a few. I am hoping with the new battery, it will become more competitive.
Never regret bought my BYD Seal premium. Fantastic car👍
Nice!
@@jamescameron1682 how much kms does the tyres last?
@@JohnBradley-y9y pretty sure the 2024 batteries that are in the byd seal can’t catch on fire they are the blade battery
@@JohnBradley-y9y think of your parents, are they regret to have you as their kid?
@@JohnBradley-y9y that's ok, fool, good luck to you, just don't have any baby, or the world will be in trouble 🙏. Enough of my time.
"Do not correct a fool, or he will hate you; correct a wise man, and he will appreciate you."
I like the seal it looks like a proper car, a lot of EV cars look pretty silly.
If i hadn't planned to do something else, i would have looked at buying one of these Seal performance cars.
They’re certainly good value
I'm enjoying my Dynamic. The speed recognition needs an update thou. Very happy overall. Just got solar panels installed at home (waiting for new meter) and was very nice to just go for a Sunday drive because I could.
Nice! Something very satisfying about charging your EV with solar 🌞
Apparently the Seals in Europe have an option to use GPS data for the speed display on the instrument panel, instead of TSR. I'd much prefer this.
What company and solar system did you get?
@@pentaverse8628 I live in a regional area so my choices are limited and more so by availability of installers.
Sunboost but with Fronius inverter (installers unable to install with optimal system layout).
@@pentaverse8628 30x440w panels with 10kw inverter on 2 orientations (20 sub optimal as on a flat roof). For 3 months will only operate at 80% but so much better than nothing😃
I have mine in Greece for 2 monthe and 4300kms. I have to say the same. Last week we took the 2403 update. Dont switch off nothing either. I enjoy the car everyday. With the update I felt it more good at handling.
My longest journey was 450km, with speed from 130 to 170 per hour. Did one stop for 20min and off I go... With 42 deegres..
I want to have the lane keeping change as you mentioned and the navigation to take in considetarion the battery Level and the destination so it can tell you where to stop.
Also as you said the roof here in Greece in hot summer dont getting hot..
Hope you get 11kw as we have here in Europe...
Cheers from Greece. George
Thanks for sharing your experience from Greece! Try this fix for decent EV trip planning: A Better Route Planner Live Data OBD2 Review in BYD Seal Apple CarPlay
ua-cam.com/video/WYRc0o7n8Sk/v-deo.html
@@g_liout3923 πόσο πήγε?
Funny you should mention EVs in Greece. Heading over next month and hiring a car for a two-day return trip from Athens to Chalcis, where we intend to intend to drive around Euboea for those two days. However, looks like the EV infrastructure in Euboea is very minimal, with the public chargers which do exist limited to 20 MW stations. Does that sound right in your experience of charging in Greece? Also, hiring a car for a day to drive around Crete later in the trip. Efharisto
@@jarrodf_ Hello ...In Euboea indeed there are no DC public chargers, only in chalkis some AC's. I would recommend to hire a non EV car....But if you can arrange with your hotel to have it charged at nighttime, then wouldnt be a problem.........But again in order to enjoy the vacation there.....No EV for me in that situation! Again in Crete for a full day of driving, although there are chargers, i would gt again for a non EV car..In my situation ( I live in Ioannina, and i have i house at the island called Lefkada, where also there arent DC chargers) i charge at home every other night...So in both situation i wouldnot go for an EV.....I hope you have a great vacation!!!!
@g_liout3923 Efharisto poli. Yes, that was my conclusion, too. (Ended up going with an Audi A4 (manual) - which was surprisingly cheap, relative to others, at ~€250 for 2 daya)... Otherwise, I'm sure an EV in Athens it would be fine, but as you say, probably a bit of a challenge outside, travelling on longer road trips... Thanks again. Certainly very much looking forward. Yassou
Good review Tom, your reviews are worth a lot more than most, because you review it based on the way you use it, which is how most people use an EV. Not just endless twisty roads, with an over reliance on a cars handling as well as efficiency measures and range estimates that are only based on highway speed driving.
Thanks! I try to talk about actual usage in my ownership updates 👍
Highway-speed driving is not so good for EVs.
@@oggyoggy1299 I still need to do my regen v cruising highway test for efficiency …
@@LudicrousFeed be interested to see how its going in 3 to 5 years time if you still have it , while it is interesting to see how they run at 6 months or a year , they are still basically brand new , long term tells more of a story you know what I mean .
the teslas don't have a jack and spare wheel , are the BYD models equipped with a spare ?
some people are not fussed by not having a spare , but to me it is a deal breaker .
@@mikldude9376 no spare in the BYD. Not many EVs have a spare, the 2024 KONA being a notable exception
Glad you are still happy with the Seal, Tom. I just viewed the Sealion and am excited for the Sealion 7 to come. The one thing I liked in the Sealion interior over the Seal is that the driver’s display is in a proper visor rather than being plonked on top of the dash like an afterthought.
That’s good to know! Integrated dash screen makes it look legit I suppose 😁
Yeah, I prefer that on the Sealion 6 also
V2L is another huge plus of this vehicle. I had a 5-hour power outage this week and was able to power my living room as normal from my Seal and carry on with what I was doing, with TV etc. in the background (while the rest of the neighbourhood was in pitch-black darkness). V2L also means I've been able to get rid of all my gas gear and go fully electric (induction hob, lights, fridge, coffee machine) for day trips and car-camping. Although the car REALLY needs a 'CAMPING MODE' where it can continuously supply 12 VDC (for fridge) and 5 VDC (USB) when the car is locked/unattended - powered from the more efficient DC-DC converter rather than the inefficient DC-AC inverter. (Just having the V2L adapter plugged into the car, even with no 240VAC devices plugged in, uses ~2kWh per day, which is a high overhead when just charging a phone or running an efficient 240VAC/12VDC fridge).
Good suggestions for BYD to implement
🤪The maximum power of BYD V2L is 6KW, which is more than enough to support the electricity consumption of the entire house. What fascinating circuit and battery technology.
Thanks for the video. I also bought a BYD Seal a few months ago (I am resident of Brazil). Great car. Loving it. The ICC I turned off before it'd drive me mad.
Glad you’re also enjoying it!
Thank you for your detailed reviews - your earlier ones definitely helped us take the plunge and get a Seal with the novated lease. Such great value and a real pleasure to drive. Lots of people at work very interested in the car with many questions (and compliments!).
It’s my pleasure and I’m glad you’ve found them helpful 🙏
Been very happy with my Premium after just over a month (minus a few days at the panelbeaters after copping a scratch at the school drop-off). I usually listen to podcasts on the way to/from work so the sound system hasn’t bothered me although even for music I find it “good enough”. Just tipped over 1500km and looking forward to heading to south west WA for a few nights next week.
Awesome! Sorry to hear about the scratch 🥲
Indeed, it is a good looking car
@@LudicrousFeed Thanks Tom! Happily the other party waited around to give me their details, and since we were both with the same insurer it was easy to sort it. And luckily for me there’s an EV specialist repairer 3km from home who not only had it done in three days, they charged up my car. Never had a full tank of petrol from a panel beater or garage!
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The reason why I bought a Tesla was due to their Supercharger network. I've never been disappointed when arriving at a supercharger. I've tried some other chargers and most are working. But when they're out of order it can be very stressful.
Couldn’t agree more. And now that some of them are open to all EVs, it makes it easier to road trip in other brands too 👏
I notice that few people ever comment on this but an absolute deal breaker for me in not getting a Tesla Model 3 was the lack of a front camera!! Further the lack of indicator stalks and a front panel while not deal breakers pushed me to get the Seal Premium which has all these things and more (HUD). The only things I prefer about the Tesla are its auto-park and FSD both which are unavailable in the Seal.
Well, Autopark and “FSD” is also currently unavailable for Tesla vehicles in Australia
I am owning a BYD Dolphin since 10 months (23,000 km) and I am very impressed about the quality. My complaints are also the software and ADAS, which is quite over-sensitive. I heard, that the Seal is better. But I will try lane-keep-assist again after seeing your video.
The ADAS has thankfully been markedly improved since the recent OTA software updates 👍
@@LudicrousFeed do people even care about self drive? - I read that only about 7% of Tesla buyers get FSD. (after a peak of 45% before 2020)
@@morganangel340 When I say ADAS, I’m not really referring to the ICC (although that’s not great either) - it was more to do with the lane keeping and emergency braking alerts/manoeuvres during regular driving that were initially potentially dangerous - this has now been rectified thankfully
@@morganangel340Self driving is quite important in the future...especially in China.
This South African approves of your videos. I just wish BYD can launch the Seal here, so far we have the Dolphin and the Atto3. R899990 the asking price for the Atto3.
Thanks! Hopefully soon 🤞
@@thetad1242 you'll thank the SA government for slapping so much taxes on this car to protect BMW and MB manufacturers selling more locally than the export prices
Lovely review, Tom! I've been checking out all your UA-cam videos, and I'm a big fan. I booked my BYD Seal Premium after seeing your reviews. Just like you, I went for the White and BYD Premium. Thanks for the detailed videos! :)
Quick question: Can we remove the middle passenger headrest in the back? I didn't check this during my test drive here in India.
Thank you 🙏 Yes I believe you can
Good to hear that there are no regrets Tom :)
I bought my Performance knowing about the Telsa Supercharger network issue, it wasn't a deal breaker then, but very glad to hear that it's going to be attended to.
Charging by solar is good though our solar system is coming on 9 years old now, has paid for itself well & truly but would need an upgrade to be more efficient with the car charging. As it is, we have single phase wiring at home (coming on 70 year old house) & without rewiring the house, the best the installed wallcharger will do is about 4kw (better than the trickle charger) at 20amps, so not going to hit that 7kw max the Seal can take. Again, it's how the house is wired, a known issue, not a deal breaker & has never made me have to run down to a local DC charger. Just needs a bit of active manual monitoring during the day when working from home (eg., taking advantage of a daylight free period from my energy retailer) & setting up the midnight to 6am charge as needed.
The only issue I have with the Seal isn't mine but that of my partner who is in the market for a car now that her Audi has had the last rites, but she won't look at an EV, despite her acknowledged comfort & performance of the Seal as a passenger, she wants gears, tactile dials & analogue speedo etc, not touchscreens & digital displays. That's another battle for another day, lol.
So I knew what I was getting when I put the order in just before Christmas last year & how the car is 5 months later after delivery has only gotten better :) And when 2403 is installed & the Supercharging fix installed, it will be better again.
Think of how many other cars you can hand on heart say are better 6 months after you bought them (without spending a lot of money in aftermarket parts), that would be a very small list
Thanks for sharing your situation and yes it’s nice to have the OTAs to improve the car over time 🙏
@@mijbril8330 lol the these days most cars have touch screen so she might have to buy an older car
May I ask how you Charge on solar? Tesla's solution (in conjunction with a Powerwall) is seamless, and makes it easy to set and forget.
@@rob1733 I touch on it briefly toward the end of this video: Home EV Charging Setup Update | Origin EV Power Up | Ocular IQ Home
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- you will need a solar charger such as the Ocular IQ Home with a power meter equipped with CT clamps to your home solar inverter. I’ll do a dedicated follow up vid shortly …
@@LudicrousFeed Thank you!
Any disadvantages to using super chargers? Does it wear out the battery faster?
The consensus is to AC charge as much as you can over DC unless you absolutely must. Plus AC charging is generally cheaper
Hi Tom, thanks for sharing the long term experience. One q, with the AC do you leave it swing automatically or you keep changing settings? Is it good enough in automatic swing?
In June 2024, I leave the AC on Auto and “Smart” and 25 deg
I have admired your balanced view of this vehicle and the brand in general. I appreciate you are super educated, but I would still argue it's very hard to offer this sort of viewpoint when you have been so immersed in a compelling ecosystem like Tesla. Its a little like an iPhone guy getting his first Android.
Your vox pops have been fair and balanced as far as I can tell. I have enjoyed them, well done.
Cheers man!
The aim of the channel has always been to get more people into EVs regardless of brand and to help people get the best out of each car
Hi this is gonna be weird but you look really cool. You reminds me of donnie yen😂
Haha that’s very kind of you because Donnie is very suave 😎
Why is Andriod Auto lacking in most new cards? According to the latest data, Android dominates the global smartphone market with a 70.69% share, while iPhone (iOS) has a 28.58% market share.
Wireless Android Auto works with the Seal also
Is turning signal lever on the right side of the steering? 3:44
Yes right side indicators
I concur with the ADAS improvements. With the last update, I'm so happy that the speed sign warnings can be turned off permanently now. My main remaining gripe is that wireless Android Auto can cut in and out. Otherwise, very pleased with my Seal.
Great to hear!
I had my 3 month service 2 months ago and I am still chasing up weekly for a warranty fix (couple of hardware issues). It’s great that most people’s experience with their seal has been positive. But when you actually have a problem with your seal, their communication is horrendous.
Sorry to hear this and hopefully you get it sorted soon 🙏
After 6 month no regret means it is gorgeous car. I bought a car from nissan but I regret after a month.
Sorry to hear
Loving my seal. Just done the software update. Just need to get apple carplay to work😂
Haha yes activating Wireless CarPlay requires some patience 😅
I had a few tips: Wireless Apple CarPlay BYD Seal OTA Software Update 2403 V1.2 Review
ua-cam.com/video/9jMvjwz0-dQ/v-deo.html
@@LudicrousFeed thanks. I have watched that many times. I’ll keep trying. It would be nice to have
So one of the great things about the BYD is the Tesla network?
Not gonna lie, the Tesla Supercharger network is almost essential for alleviating EV range anxiety where available - whether it be Tesla, BYD or other brand
I noticed in my update yesterday, my audio reactive lighting now works with wireless Android Auto. It used to be static lighting unless i switched to bluetooth or radio. Small things but definitely moving forward
Wooo! That’s a nice feature to have 😃
For Your information, Dynaudio is as Danish as Volvo is Swedish. Dynaudio is owned by the Chinese these days, and it is hearable😢
Got it 👍
That six months seems to have flown by !
Must admit , I am not sure which I prefer the look of as far as the new M3 or BYD Seal goes . Perhaps the seal by a whisker.
As far as my EV journey goes , I am still waiting for the Livewire to be repaired after the bump it got in February.
I have also received the first power bill since having the Model 3 SR+ , $379.29 with no special EV Tarif or working PV solar system (my solar system stoped working in February).
I have travled about 3100km in that time.
The car that the M3 replaced for daily duties drank 95 or 98 RON at a rate of 13.5 to 14L per 100 km , it was costing me over $100 a week to feed.
Amazing saving with your power bill even without solar or special tariff 👍👏
Great review Tom. You go to the depth of information like the single phase charging which no other auto reviewer would.
Thanks! There are aspects of a review that can only be addressed with long term ownership
Notice none of these reviewers ever get under the car and inspect the actual meat and bones of the vehicle. How is the suspension built? What kind of materials were used? Is the steel soft or hardened? There's reports in China of soft, brittle steel being used on their cars. They are falling apart. Looking at the interior is nice and all but put it on lift. Any car I have ever bought, the first thing I do is look under the car, then I drive it, then I look under the car some more.
If you want to see what’s under the car, check out my video: First BYD Seal Service at 3 months in Sydney Australia Premium Variant
ua-cam.com/video/Jer8fxUI1GA/v-deo.html
Your reviews helped me get to our byd seal premium, thanks Tom! We love the car so far so good.
Awesome! Glad you’ve found them helpful
Thank you for sharing your feedback. Love your videos..
Pleasure
The lease on my ICE car is ending early next year. Got the option to pay the balloon and keep the car or sell it and get a new car. Thinking of a change like an EV car which make sense on a new lease as there is currently no GST on EV and there is FBT exemption, that is the repayment is 100% deducted before taxable income for the duration of the lease which considerably reduce the cost of the EV. On the other side i have to think if its better to have an ICE or EV vehicle in terms of battery safety, ongoing cost (Insurance, Servicing, battery replacement etc.). Too much to think about for someone who hasn't drive an EV yet. While i have no doubt Tesla engineering is top notch, I kinda find inside a bit boring. I would prefer to have a Heads up display which i'm use to with my current car and also the console behind the steering wheel. I don't want to take my eyes off the road to watch the centre console everytime how fast i'm going. People say you'll get use to it but I don't think I will. Hopefully Model Y Juniper will bring some changes to my liking. If it is, then Tesla will be my first choice, otherwise will look into other model. I have been looking the Polestar 4 and will be interested to see what Xpeng and Sealion has to offer. Any good advice from you Tom?
I’d personally wait … there are some good offerings in the next few months including ZEEKR and XPeng
@@LudicrousFeed Thanks
ICE cars win hands down, used Tesla's or any electric car is worth nothing. Buy and throw away.
Just saw Bjørn Nylands BYD Seal 1000km challenge.....quite a different experience.
Admittedly I don't drive 1000km on a regular basis, it's good enough for my daily ride 😁
@@LudicrousFeedand probably not at 130km/h
majority of us BYD seal owners are delighted with the car, therefore I would take Bjorn's video with a grain of salt
He actually quite likes the car. His criticism was very specific, related to the lack of adequate cooling of the battery during DC fast charging. That said, the overall average charge rate for the Seal during his test was still high enough to have it rank reasonably well across all the cars he has tested.
@@vasil7410 I haven't watched his 1000km challenge yet, but I noticed in the other test he did recently the temnparature of the battery cells as an average between the minimum and maximum was probably lower than the Tesla over the charging curve, it was also only marginally slower to fully charge it compared to the NMC long range Tesla. When he craps on about rapid gating whenever he tests BYD products it just seems like a bit of an overreach and beatup to me. Tesla's whilst they don't charge particulalrly quickly are very efficient though so will travel further on a given charge which is also critical in the 1000km review.
So, I should put the ADAS fuses back in and give it a go? I might do that tomorrow and see how it goes. It's been nice driving a car that hasn't tried to do anything crazy I must say. I'm still a bit cautious about giving it control, but I'll see what can be turned off and kept off now.
Give it a go … the general consensus amongst other owners is that it’s a big improvement on what it was at delivery
@@LudicrousFeed Is yours the performance model? If so, does yours have the overly loud pump noise in the front when charging? I did a video on that, but still haven't got onto BYD to look into it. The K-Mart service guys aren't really BYD specialists, so they didn't know anything about it. I'd say it's a coolant pump, but it really shouldn't be loud.
Mine is the Premium RWD
I find the ICC to work fine on its own, but yea the lane keeping component is still way off where it needs to be. Useful in slow moving heavy traffic but not good to rely on when moving faster.
Agreed yes the CC part of the ICC is fine and seems to keep strictly to the set speed with minimal issues
Agreed, Wife hates the Lane Keeping.
Thank you Ip Man for taking the time to do the review.
You are most welcome my son 🙏😁
Will be interesting what the mid-cycle refresh brings, would hope they fix the 7kW AC and up that to 11kW AC. How are the tyres or does the Seal come with the Conti EcoContact 6 already? Also improvements in infotainment system would be good didn't know about the sound system, was never sure what it was like and not a huge sound guy myself I just usually take whatever the manufacturer provides and goes with it. Would you look at selling it say at the 12 month mark and perhaps a XPeng G6 with its crazy charge curve and can see how it compares to the Seal, different class of car obviously being a CUV vs a Sedan I realise.
Yes Seal is equiped with Continental EcoContact already👍
- A lot more choice coming on the market for sure 🙏
my anticipation for Seal facelift will be 3.0evo platform, new blade batteries
Would you ever consider taking the car on a defensive and advanced driving course? It'd be a good way to demonstrate the safety features and dynamic abilities of current EVs. Highly recommend the one run by Driving Solutions at SMSP.
Yup I think that would be valuable
BYD should hire some western educated staffs to fasttrack their infotainment and user interface system. Chinese market and western market mindset are completely different and not everything is as simple as just a language conversion. The innuendos are different. It may take them another 12-18 months to make it industry standard according to west's standard which they will have to in order to increase their export.
I test drove the Seal for Malaysian market couple weeks ago and you can feel the quirkiness in the user interface immediately, not an issue if you have intereact with their cars in their native language like me who stays a couple months a year in Shenzhen/Guandong but even in Malaysia they local buyers consists of ethnic Chinese and Malays are complaining the un-user friendly interface.
I actually agree with you - this is one gripe I have in that the software UX could do with a tune up
In Europe V1.30.1 is rolling out..Amogst else there is an EV trip charger planner for navigation...
Can’t wait to try that out!
Gday mate, love your videos. just seeing if you know if you can change the setting from kpa to psi when it comes up on the screen?? thanks heaps.
Yes the available units are bar, kpa and psi
Can you comment on the suspension please? I own 2022 modelY and despite loving so many things about the car I simply feel the suspension is well below the standard.
I saw another reviewer say the suspension of the Seal was butter smooth and I would have to agree 🥂
Yes, I still love my Seal Performance. By far and Y the best vehicle I’ve ever owned. ❤
Great to hear!
Just wonder about its resale value
I own a Seal U 2024 and what I can say is that the Infotainment system is great, for me at least, since I am a software engineer and I can install any app from the App Store. I even have ps2 games and a controller to play with it while charging. I can watch tv and use native apple music, waze with splitscreen, which is way better than using Apple CarPlay
Yes there is that ability to side load for those inclined 👍
I also have the Seal Premium and am very pleased with it so far. My only issue is the seat position selection as me and my wife use it daily. It would be good to have a simple button on the seat for option 1 & 2 rather than digging through menus.
This is a common feature request. +1 for me also
Requesting BYD SEAL owners (performance model) to give info about the range. Thanks in advance.
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BYD ICC uses 1 front camera and 3 mmWave radar sensors with less than 10TOPS processing power. It’s not their latest Dipilot system but definitely good enough at this price range.
The tech may be there but the practical application is not great … yet
Watch out legacy auto. BYD , Tesla and others will exponentially sell more and more to happy customers
Indeed 👍
You have a bigger charging loose due to only 1 phase ,230 Ac. With 2 or more phases you have 400 Vac between phases, there for the conversation to 400Vdc are more effective
Hmm good to know
We where talking about vampire drain during parking and it hit me that the doesn’t seem to suffer from this like the teslas and others. How’s yours doing?
Yes I agree - there's minimal phantom drain in my BYD Seal. Having no Sentry Mode and a Power Off button probably helps 😅
thanks tom , heard your going to Edinburgh , huge family ties there. Very old city lots of history. most haunted city in the world check out the castle if you have time. safe trip.👍
Thanks! Can’t wait - I’ll document the journey in the Hyundai Ioniq 5 press car so you can follow along 🙏😁
Is your driver seat right side still ok? Because I saw on some expo cars it has been already deformed 🥴
Seems ok to me
Hi there, i pick up my seal tomorrow. I am a little excited, my first new car! I have a question about whether a tethered or untethered charger is best for me. I will be regularly undertaking relatively long road trips (450-500kms) and wonder whether having a type 2 to type 2 in the car is overkill or not. Cheers
I think it doesn’t hurt to have a Type 2 cable in the car if you’re doing regular long trips. I have a coupon code for this one: evse.com.au/product/5-metre-type-2-to-type-2-ev-charging-cable-22kw | Code: TESLATOM for 5% off site wide
You haven't mentioned the lack of one pedal driving which is a bit of a shortcoming in a car of this calibre
Cheers, I along with many of our viewers have mentioned it in my other Seal vids - I didn’t want to labour the point. Some passengers actually find OPD uncomfortable with the harsher braking so I don’t personally think it’s a deal breaker. I usually turn it off anyway in some of the other press cars I’ve driven eg Hyundai Ioniq 5
Are you concerned of the additional weight of the Seal premium 2320kg with a driver, compared to Tesla M3LR 1849kg affecting overall range.
Not something I really give much thought to day to day to be frank with you
Enjoyed your use of "binnacle" to refer to the instrument cluster. Is this word used in Australia? Few Americans would understand, unless you work in shipbuilding, where it refers to the ship's compass.
Not a commonly used word here but easier thank saying “Instrument Cluster” dash each time 😁
@LudicrousFeed ex auto guy here. The dash is the component that connects the A pillars. The regulated instruments, e.g speedo, odo etc are the "instrument cluster" , or instrument panel, or IP for short. The header unit, or infotainment display sits into the dashboard. Hope that helps
The worst safety feature is front cross traffic braking, which needs some fine tuning its to servere when it deploys, especially at roundabouts
Yes I’ve noticed that also
1/2 year already!! still thinking about your japan trip..... going back again?? yen conversion rate nothing but spectacular
Trust me I’m always looking for an excuse to head back to Japan 😆
Great video. I'm thinking of changing my M3LR for a BYD Seal Premium next year.
Nice. Any reason you’re changing to BYD? CarPlay?
@LudicrousFeed mainly because I'm fed up with Elon Musk, his conspiracy theories and right-wing musings. I don't feel like putting any more cash into his pockets.
Is the hardware update available to all owners? Just bought one and am due for delivery in a few weeks.
If you bought a car that is post March-2024 build then your Seal will be compatible and therefore not require an upgrade. Full details: ua-cam.com/video/w48zBLjv3g8/v-deo.html
I think you took delivery on the 29th of Dec. I know because I took delivery on the 30th.
Nice 👍
What hardware change did BYD make to the car to make it work with the V3 and V4 Superchargers? Is this something that will cost us to have fitted?
Check out my vlog about it: BYD Seal Tesla Supercharger V4 Experience Sydney Australia June 2024
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7:53 does the car wobbling when beside the truck ..?..
If it did I didn’t notice it too much
Is it just an Australian thing to not keep left unless overtaking?
Certainly in Sydney it seems that way doesn’t it?
Every dollar counts when we buy a car.. 🎉
@@tswong2409 Absolutely and it’s good financial stewardship to ensure every dollar spent provides good value (for your situation anyway)
How are the led headlights at night? I am used to Matrix led headlights in my cars, so would be nice if updated BYDs started including Matrix led headlights like Tesla and not just standard led.
They’re not Matrix but they are more than adequate imo
💩 Made In Chi Na
Wow, thorough assessment
Do you think the jerkiness is due to lack of 5G?
No. The ICC doesn’t rely on an internet connection
I went with Tesla M3 due to software, one pedal driv, changing and effective drive chain. But the seal looks good
No doubt the Tesla software is a huge selling point 👍
Is DC charging really limited to 150kW? That's what their website says. And thanks for the review! Came at just the right time.
Yes 150kW max for the BYD Seal
Apparently the next Seal (known as Seal 07 - currently in testing in China) with the new Evo 3.0 platform has 800V architecture which will enable it to charge at 250kW speeds
@@LudicrousFeed Much appreciated!
BYD Seal is so sick
It's a good looking car
I've been following your BYD Seal reviews & its giving me more confidence in considering putting in an order for the 2025 model.
Great to hear!
When is denza z9 gt coming to Australia.
Would love to see that beast here
Is all the Tesla network open to non-tesla cars? I thought it was a selected amount.
Correct. Only select locations: check the Tesla app for the latest
I appreciate your point on the audio. Using the Dynaudio position tool I've needed to position the audio to around 3 ticks away from the absolute rear of the car and 1 tick to the left. I run Wavelet (though I'm sure there are non sideload alternatives for EQ with android auto) to balance out the audio better across channels to what I could hear...kinda left mids and pumped bass and more importantly treble. Finally pumped the treble to 9, mids at 3/2 (depending on the mood), left bass at 0 and lowered subbass to -2. Probably should check my car instead of guessing all this.
I think it sounds somewhat respectable now, but doing radical changes and one sideload seems a bit much.
Thanks for sharing your settings but I agree that one shouldn’t have to tinker so much to get decent sound!
@@LudicrousFeed since my test drive a few months ago, audio on seal was a deal breaker. Even my Camry hybrid SL has a better and much crisp and loud audio than seal
Like BYDs but paying 189 for the 5 minute service is a bit much… 😢
Fair enough - once a year checkup is probably not a bad thing for a complex piece of machinery that I use everyday
@@LudicrousFeedagreed but in 5 min you can only check that much…
@@loving_dad_explorer who says it's a five minute service?
I don't pretend to know every little detail that is performed at a car service but from what they showed me during my 1 month visit, it seemed quite thorough: ua-cam.com/video/Jer8fxUI1GA/v-deo.html They presumably also torque everything etc like they would for any other car
@@jonpaxman the owners on BYD Australia forums
Great review, Tom. Had my premium for 2 weeks and loving it. How do you permanently turn off the Traffic sign recognition? Mine still requires turning off every start. I would have thought with my car being so new it would have the most recent software available?
Hmmm what software version are you currently on?
Not sure, but I just updated it today so hopefully when I get in tomorrow the ADAS is still as I set it after the update
Hi I enjoy your videos, very informative and helpful. I have a question though. Do you have any idea why most other EVs especially BYD don’t make the regenerative brakes stronger so it can bring the car to a stop without having to press the brake pedal, just like the Tesla? Thanks mate, keep up the good work.
OPD (one pedal driving) is available in other cars, just not the BYD. I’ve tested OPD in Hyundai, Kia, MG, Ford … the list goes on
@@LudicrousFeed oh ok pardon my limited knowledge on other EVs 😁
What do you do with your Ev’s specially the Seal when you leave for a vacation? It would be good if you can talk about that please 🙏🏻
On my recent trip to the UK, I parked our Model Y at Sydney Airport P7 with sentry mode turned off and it lost at most 5% over 3 weeks. I left my Seal at home unplugged and it barely lost any charge.
My UK trip: 2024 EV Road Trip UK in Hyundai Ioniq 5 Fast Charging Range Efficiency
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If you leave Tesla Sentry Mode on in an airport carpark, you lose a lot of charge over a prolonged period: Here's The Right Way To Charge Your Tesla And Prolong Its Battery Life
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@@LudicrousFeed So for short travels its OK to keep the seal unplugged then , thanks a lot for all the information you provide
@@abdullaalblooki1527 yes definitely ok to leave unplugged for short trips - presumably you mean a few days
Hey mate, I've been trawling your Seal videos but I can't see any comment comparing driving visualization preview? Trying to decide between keeping my Ora or switch to Seal (although ex 3 owner).
Hmm that's because driving visualisations are basically non-existent in the BYD software 😭
@@LudicrousFeed so you cant see other cars on the sides and behind? I think i can see in your videos you can at least see the one in front
No sadly not ... Watch my video: ua-cam.com/video/INuMazD5vLA/v-deo.htmlsi=vxI8jLXaEXTA44Vn&t=382
The 'front car' is just a static image to toggle the distance to follow the car ahead
@@LudicrousFeed that's strange because even the Ora has side and back views although you have to turn it on.. sure we're not missing a setting somewhere?
Ever ran into rapid gate when the fastcharging drops to 80 from 150 when the battery hits 52C? Haven’t tested it fully in mine yet but seen some reviewers noticing this. Agree with you on the sound, it needs more clarity and precense in mids and highs. Lane keeping is ok but as a previous tesla owner I totaly agree with you. Highway no problems for me but yeah others roads are hit or miss.
Haven’t done much DC charging yet tbh, just been focusing on day trips but might be worth a test now that the Tesla V3/4 SC issue is fixed in my car
@@LudicrousFeed Yeah I will go on a long trip next week and will test on the Ionity 400kW chargers, over powered yes sir. Seen car pulling 152-153 and reporting 149,2 into battery for a 25% charge so no way near getting hot during such a short charge session. My v3/v4 was fix with the 1.1 release so maby the hardware was already there. 1.2 now here in Sweden so just got the wireless apple car play, 🥳
How does this compare to the Model 3 Highland?
Here’s my original comparison: 2024 Tesla Model 3 RWD Highland Update vs BYD Seal Premium Australia
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But keep in mind the Seal has undergone a few OTA updates and is a better car than what it was at delivery
still waiting for my premium😢 its been 4 months of waiting here in indonesia😅
*there is a slight agreement issue between the goverment and BYD..but its already taken care of..
What agreement issue?
@@LudicrousFeed BYD need to open factory in indonesia by 2025, to avoid high taxes (and they can import maximum 20.000 unit per year)
now total sales is around 5000 unit,
pretty hot sales..
the issue is (not sure why but our officer top brass dont want to sign the agreement)
the issue is (not sure why but our officer top brass dont want to sign the agreement) maybe they want money lol
Great review! How often do you have to service the car and what are the costs?
Thanks! Every 12 months: the fixed servicing costs are listed on the BYD Automotive Australia website
Bought a tesla model 3 because of the superior safety, specifically the active driving features that work flawlessly on freeways.
Basic AP on the highway works pretty well usually ... just watch out for the occasional phantom braking episode when passing big trucks
@@LudicrousFeed not just trucks , cars too , very exciting at highway speeds when you have a loaded kenworth behind you , you cannot trust these things .
the other thing is , humans do not do well doing half tasks , if relying on the vehicle to do half the work humans tend to have the mind. wander off , lose alertness , and spatial awareness which is extremely dangerous , because when things go pear shaped and the car tries to steer you off road or phantom brake on a freeway..
All this technology sounds good until its not , but you need to stay on the ball mate .
Stay safe .
If Tesla model 3 is cheaper than Byd Seal Dynamic, which would you recommend i get?
I presume you’re talking about a used Tesla?
@@LudicrousFeed both brand new. Its a genuine question. I was fixated on Seal until i went to test drive tesla and knowing the price.. Now i am so confused
It’s a difficult question to answer because the price point is important … but if you want me to answer a hypothetical, I’d say:
If you’re after software/UX/app integration: go Tesla; if you’re after aesthetics/build/ride comfort/phone protection: go BYD
@@LudicrousFeed thank you! This helps me a lot 😊
I got to go sit in a Seal today for the first time. I was too tall to fit. I’m so incredibly disappointed. The guy at the BYD showroom said “were you expecting S-class amounts of room?” 😮
Haha yeah the Seal isn’t THAT big 😁
@_Sensei_8 I asked the salesman and he said they plan on releasing one new model a year here. He wasn’t sure what was next, but he thought the Sea Lion was a likely candidate.
I actually drive a 60kWh LEAF with no issues. I easily got into the Atto 3 there at the showroom too.
@_Sensei_8 I live in Japan 👍
But, it doesn't have FSD.
Neither does Tesla (in Australia anyway)
My experience 5 months in with the seal premium is similar to yours. Now about 11000km on the clock as a daily commuter Wollongong to Sydney and my only real gripe (aside from the traffic sign alerts, thank god I will be able to turn that off permanently soon!) is also the ICC. It has most definitely improved significantly from the suicidal state it was in originally and I am comfortable enough to use it on a straightish road, but a big issue I still have is that when you change lanes with ICC on it will assertively turn the wheel to (over-)"correct" your position in the lane (and then complain that you're out of the lane when it does over-correct), so need to make sure I have a prepared grip on the wheel. Otherwise amazing car, and I hope they keep iterating on that ICC as it has a lot of potential.
Thanks for sharing! I agree it’s not quite perfect but it’s almost there
Great review, thanks. Waiting for sealion7, or Xiao Peng or Juniper…which one should I get Tom? I will be replacing my Y and love the autopilot yet I wish the I hope for a comfort seat
I’m curious about the XPENG G6 given what I saw in China - the specs look good too but it’ll depend a lot on what the servicing and warranty is like
I have a friend who's eagerly waiting for the Sealion 7, wants to get one as his first EV. He's not a Tesla fan, not sure why, but the SL7 definitely looks good on paper! We also have the Atto 3 but he's not a fan of the interior, which of course is very subjective.
i'll wait a bit more when more 800v cars come to the country....
How much dies it cost to charge per 100km range?
In Australia, it depends on where and when you charge …
Scenario 1: At home, if you’re charging from solar - it’s essentially 5c/kWh x ~15-17 kWh/100km efficiency = 75-85c
Scenario 2: Specialised EV plan (Origin,
Ovo, AGL) - 8c/kWh x ~15-17kWh/100km = $1.20-$1.36
Scenario 3: Public DC charging can be up to ~80c/kWh x 15-17kWh = $12-$13.60
And everything in between!
@LudicrousFeed thank you that's very helpful info 👍 much appreciated
Premium? Is it performance awd?
Long range RWD 82kWh
What’s the best option for home charging ?
I recently posted my current home charging setup: Home EV Charging Setup Update | Origin EV Power Up | Ocular IQ Home
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Every time I see one of these on the road, I think it looks so good
They do look good 🥂
@@LudicrousFeed also look very premium. I just bought a ix3 BMW for my wife, I would have preferred the seal but she likes the SUV style and sitting up higher.
Check it out after 6 years....
Yup time will tell