Ike: Countdown to D-Day (Part 3 of 9)
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- IKE: COUNTDOWN TO D-DAY depicts the tense 90 days leading up to the D-Day invasion and how Dwight Eisenhower, against all odds, brilliantly orchestrated the most important military maneuver in modern history.
Eisenhower deserves high marks for not only handling this massive invasion but putting up with guys like Montgomery, De Gaulle, and Patton.
Those three were good men at the end of the day.
Ares99999 My comments were harsh and for that I apologize. I was referring to personality conflicts. I agree that Montgomery, De Gaulle, and Patton were great generals.
Patton could make a sober man drink but is an awesome general, a prima donna but also an excellent general .
@@Ares99999 At the end of the day, they were men. Eisenhower however was *the* man.
And having to send one of his best friends home....Ike was a great leader.
That entire mess involving those poor bastards who drowned in a practice run TRAGIC!
G2 Intelligence advised the first week of June for D-Day as Rommel was a devoted husband, and correctly predicted that he would be on leave in Germany for his wife's birthday at the time of the invasion.
Nice try, but also a nice coincidence. Moon, tides, and weather were more important than Rommel being a good husband.
@@floydvaughn836 Yes. A very fortuitous condition that would not have existed during the next lunar/ tide cycle. It was then that one of the best field Commanders that the Whermact had would be absent. Not some other time.
@@ronniebishop2496 Monty wanted Supreme Command because as so many others, he was a glory hound Narrcistist. He resented having to defer to Eisenhower because of the superior resources the USA brought to the effort. That "Market Garden" fiasco was Monty's baby, he pestered the Allied Command to let him do that even after "Ultra" intercepts indicated that the situation on the ground had changed with the transfer of strong German armored unit to the area. "Ultra" was still classified for decades after the war saving Monty's reputation. Eisenhower was constantly fending off Monty's arrogant overtures at usurping field Command in the Northern ETO. He wanted to be given American forces in addition to Britain's for a massive forces of 40 divisions for HIM to make the charge into Germany. An impetuous Churchill did a great disservice to Wavell and O'Connor in North Africa. Both performed well under disadvantaged circumstances in those early months of the war, but Churchill, ever the showman, as all the world is a stage for politicians you know, threw them under the proverbial bus for a new public image in Montgomery.
@@ronniebishop2496 Once again, a too true comment of mine has disappeared 😕 Don't be too impressed with what Monty thought. Research.
@@ronniebishop2496 By including "Monty agreed" you implied otherwise.
During both world wars, the Allies all decided to establish a joint command structure across nations to command overall operations, which despite initial setbacks and political machinations, ultimately benefited the Allies significantly. Foch and Ike were both the right men for the job at the time.
Ike got his 5th star on 20 December 1944, Marshal was 1st recieving his 2 days before Ike
These meetings make me nervous, I grew up listening to my dad talk to me about this, reluctantly of course, but I do know he was wounded in Holland and then drove a car for an officer, he said stayed drunk all the time.
This series is sucking me right in. I never knew about it until today.
Me too
@@mossbrg5 It was a made for TV movie, not a series. I remember watching this when it originally aired on TV, it's quite good.
Seconded.
Slapton sands is a seaside town on the south coast here in England.
It was a tragic mess.
Wrong radio codes wasn't it?
Correct but that beach depicted in the film is definitely not Slapton Sands, Slapton Sands is ironically largely a pebble beach.
Most people look at a great general like Patton or Monty and automatically think they’re the right choice for supreme commander, but it’s totally wrong and Roosevelt and Churchill were intelligent enough to see it. Most great football coach’s weren’t the greatest players because great players just usually focus on their part of the game. But a great coach is someone who has focused on all parts.? Ike was great for his position, like a miracle.
Ike’s management style also benefited him during his presidency.
@@jerryx3253 Yes I was born and raised in his administration and overall it was really booming. He was such a ww2 hero nobody would publicly go against him and even democrats were helpless to stop him to do anything.
@@ronniebishop2496 He had the reps and the skill. The economy is well managed. And his unintentional Supreme Court judge nomination pioneered the civil rights movement.
@@jerryx3253 Do you think that was unintentional? Because he sent the 101st airborne to Arkansas to escort the Little Rock 9 into an all white high school, today to send federal troops to stop a domestic violence problem would have the media and democrats in war mode.
Great analogy.
@sagajagan no that was after .. the Germans sent more men to Montys area (which beacame Monty's gradual idea) to try & hold area South of Caen but this was Germany's mistake it allowed Op Cobra to break through a thin German line which had only 90 tanks
Facing Monty was a 6 mile German defensive front along with 600 tanks. The Falaise pocket was to bore out of this..
And ever since the alliance between UK and US is stronger than ever. God bless America and God save the Queen! 🇬🇧🇺🇲
USA is sliding uncontrollably into irreparable financial catastrophe.
Commencing within the ensuing 20 years , drastic DOD cuts will be imposed and USA , followed timidly by it's poodle UK , will no longer police this planet , Spaceship Earth.
@@AlexanderDunetz you are correct Alex, what's truly messed up is the supposed genius of these pathetic pols who are allowing the country to decline, even helping to speed up the decline while lining their pockets. That's why these SOBs are actually hating on President Trump for exposing their actions, unlike these pols he was rich before coming into office and rescuing this country from their incompetence at all levels. The election was stolen from us and President Trump, the floorshow these liberal scumbags AND the RINOs wanted him gone and the fraud they allowed to happen is these libs now are trying to keep themselves indefinitely in power while silencing us and ignoring the constitution. My hands are shaking so I'm going to stop now, everyone of these idiot pols should be charged with TREASON for their ignoring their oath among many other crimes they pull and get away with while inventing crimes to charge President Trump with that never happened. Hypocrites is the least and most polite way to describe their disgusting anti-American attitudes and actions.
@@AlexanderDunetz The USA is actually better off than most economies. Even their debt as a percentage of their GDP is relatively low.
@@rangergxi Biden and Harris will soon change that. For some reason, they are determined to duplicate Europe's mistakes.
everyone seems to forget that Tedder was more widely respected by both British & American generals and thus being deputy supreme commander too..
07:47 nice churchill quote xD
"the fate of your two great nations comes down to LSTs and donald ducks."
Furthest distance from the sea in Britain is 70 miles, Elms in Derbyshire.
A little factoid, Bedfordshire is the only county where you have to travel across two other counties to get to the sea.
The UK has always, or at least used to be the superpower in the Sea and Ocean's, but WW2 changed them more than people actually realise
Anyone able to decipher what Ike mumbles from his bedside when Beetle knocks on the door at 5am? I've listened to it 100 times and can't make out what Selleck says...
I believe he says "I'm ahead of you"......
I don’t know the name of the Actor playing Churchill has got him brilliantly not like Gary Oldman in Darkest Hour he was positively magnificent in that. But the portrayal of Churchill by Brian Cox portraying him having a panic attack don’t think so if anyone had a right to anxieties it would be Churchill as a result of that Gallipoli disaster(his attempt at amphibious assault in 1915
The impossible ideal; Power is best entrusted to those who do NOT want it.
Ike knew what he was doing!
Agreed IKE was precisely the right man for that job. We can thank God that MacArthur got relagated to the South Pacific. MacArthur’s tolerance for high casualties he would have sent the Boys on the 5th and let them drown.
This episode combines elements of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_Tiger in which the lost vehicles were LSTs, and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Henry,_Dorset#Operation_Smash in which DD tanks were lost because of bad weather, not E-boats.
Our pleasure...
This man plays a great Churchill
I wish I could have been there to help and work with Churchill and the rest. Ike etc.
And that scene is one of the things that makes "A Bridge Too Far" arse gravy of the highest order. Von Rundstedt actually said - in real life not the movies - that Monty and Patton were the best he met. The Germans generals had a high level of respect for Monty and you can find few quote from the people themselves that will dissmiss him as a poor commander.
As usual Hollywood takes huge liberties with the truth.
My father served directly under Monty and wouldn't have a bad word against him.
@@orwellboy1958 Probably because under Monty there would be no meat grinders like the Hurtgen Forest.
Was there any truth to the rumor about Churchill losing his nerve right before OVERLORD launching JAV in Gallipoli flashbacks?
No.
Another great commander of troops IN MY OPINION is Major General Terry de la Mesa Allen. Terrible Terry Allen. Gen Bradley Fired him for lax of personal and unit discipline with in the same year he ended commanding the 104th Division-Timberwolves-first to reach the elbe river and link up with the soviets. which pretty much signaled the end of the war in Europe.
spot on i study world war 2 alot and agree with your comments
Wasn’t Eisenhower’s rank of five stars temporary with a permanent rank of Colonel
5 star rank is permanent. His four star was temp.
Most of the British characters in this show seem to be played by Kiwis including Churchill. Very amusing.
I just checking the filming locations on IMDb and it was filmed in NZ. Which you have to assume to get all of the tax breaks of filming in a place like that they had to hire a certain percentage of NZ cast and crew. Just like when Band of Brothers was filmed in UK they had to hire British actors.
I had a hard time accepting Tom Selleck as Ike. One does have to use one's imagination sometimes.
@@celticman1909 Ike is an odd guy to have to cast, especially with it being a TV movie at the time. Which means you probably weren't going to get any A List talent to do the role. But I guess that Ed Harris could've been a good choice.
@@joemckim1183 I think you're right.
@@celticman1909 With most of the movie filmed indoors they basically could've filmed it anywhere.
@TheLostIdea One other thing If Hitler had not interfered with the Generals planning and given them more of a free hand in the field the war may have lasted much longer. I also believe that again the German Generals on the eastern front were fighting an enemy that were both determined to win at any cost and were also merciless to their enemies. The Eastern front was a brutal war with little or no mercy on each side. I firmly believe that these generals were much more hardened than western ones
i think the main thing is that fdr would not allow americans to be commanded by anyone but american generals
Montgomery was in charge of ALL ground forces on D-Day and beyond. American forces came under British control many times including at the Battle of the Bulge.
@@andym9571 ike was the supreme commander period.
@@mrdaleowen1 the political commander...of which he did a very good job.
Can someone tell me the name of the actor of Winston Churchill? I know him from some movie or another but simply cannot grasp it.
Ian Mune
www.imdb.com/name/nm0612786/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Mune
www.nzonscreen.com/profile/ian-mune
John Simpson thank you.
I knew about it before, but the arrogance of Montgomery still astounds me. He thought he was God's gift to the Allied cause.
How did you know?
Don't forget this is Hollywood.
@@andym9571 Hollywood for sure but an accurate portrayal.
He's ego was monumental but no more than Patrons and he was respected by his men not feared.
@@frankw7091
Its a pile of rubbish.
I wonder what will the outcome be if macarthur was the supreme commander of d day
Aman Peace It’s not worth thinking about!
@@tomhanna8508 no I think it's an interesting theoretical problem. Despite his faults McArthur was not without skills or talent. Inchon was brilliantly conceived and executed. However it's difficult to imagine the undiplomatic McArthur having a smooth working relationship with either Churchill or Monty, to say nothing of Patton.
If we hadn’t had a lot of activity in the southwest they really would have become suspicious.
Slapton Sands not discussed much but a ridiculous tragedy
at 3:38 it looks like he's eating a banana. these were all but unknown in Britain during the war. Toward the end, maybe after the end, a special shipment was brought in and each child was allotted one banana. E. Waugh had 3 children at home, and made them hand over their bananas and he ate all 3.
I think Beetle was eating a pastry in that scene. The bite mark he left looked wider than one from a banana.
He wasnt promoted to Five Star General until after the Invasion.
The relationship between Ike and Churchill has always fascinated me, I wonder how much of what's depicted here was fact and how much was hollywood.
@TheLostIdea The war on the Eastern front was a different war to the western front. It was a war of annihilation and the German Generals (Manstein, Guderian, Hoth, Model) and the Russians (Zhukov, Koniev, Chuikov) had to be both ruthless and make those decisions due to neither side wanting to give up an inch. I will say that I rate Generals Like Manstein and Guderian as two of the best Generals in History (They rote the books on modern warfare). These are used as examples for todays military.
Shows Churchill as the great war monger of the 20th century.
Rubbish.
He stayed true to his convictions...MY GOD IT WAS A TOUGH JOB...IKE SAYS GO
you mean after Zukov?
Cue the Chernobyl dogs.
Fate guided by logic
What are you on about, Montgomery was a brilliant commander
Monty's performance in Sicily was laughable. Patton our maneuvered him and made him look like an ass
@@brianwi1683 One could argue Patton raced around lightly defended coastal areas while Montgomery did the real work of pinning down the main German forces. One might also note that the portrayal of the invasion in the movie Patton is wildly incorrect, as it was Monty who suggested that Patton take Messina.
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-, and foolish at getting guts killed and captured. Arnim was one of his brilliant plans
@@brianwi1683 He still oversaw the successful Normandy planning.
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- and couldn't complete his objectives without help
Don’t forget Monty move to try and up stage everyone with the disastrous Market Garden
He did not.
They always remind him he’s there at there pleasure. No he’s there to save their ASSES.
@Sierra688 Churchill lived somewhat under the delusion that he was at least the true heir of the Duke of Marlborough if not Marlborough reincarnated but in truth he was an overly nieve military planner and prone to mood swings that didn't help make those plans any more viable. It was a very good thing Alanbrooke was around to tell him when his ideas were stupid and wouldn't back down to Churchill like most people did.
Is that why Hitler ordered the vast bulk of German reinforcements to head towards Monty's beach head on D-Day?
To the Germans, Montgomery was the man who defeated the legendary Rommel, not just once, but three times. Patton was small fry in comparison.
@_@ As if height really matters compared to acting skills. As for the stars, the RL photo of Ike visiting the 101st Airborne clearly depicts him having only four stars on his shoulders rather than five; I don't know why that is myself, but the film seems to be following on that.
Cracking heads, picking brains, tough brainstorming.
Strategic decision.
What a political will!
The best commanders was DIck Winters of Easy Company. He was the one who frightened the Germans. Eisenhower did OK too.
Yeah, comparing a company commander to the Supreme Allied Commander. How many more times are you going to post your B.S.? We get it.
I doubt the Germans even knew who Dick Winters was.
Churchill, great leader that he was, was also a horrible meddler in military affairs, a realm where he compiled a somewhat checkered record.
Total Rubbish.
June 5th was settled on, before the meeting shown here.
Ike would have done well on ‘Big Brother’.
Eisenhower>>>>>>>>>Monty
nope
At 6 feet 4 inches, Tom Selleck is just too gigantic to play Eisenhower.......
Eisenhower should be wearing "5" stars, not 4>>>>During a time of war, the top U.S. Generals are given the title "General of the Army" and are issued 5 stars, which were given to Generals Marshall, MacArthur, and Eisenhower during World War II.........
Actually, Eisenhower was promoted to 5-star General on 20 December 1944 while D-Day occurred on 6 June 1944. But you knew that. And it's not 'are' but were since the last 5-star rank was awarded (not 'issued') to Army General Omar Bradley on 22 December 1950. Thanks for playing though...
bullocks
Very poor video quality