Ike: Countdown to D-Day (Part 5 of 9)
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- IKE: COUNTDOWN TO D-DAY depicts the tense 90 days leading up to the D-Day invasion and how Dwight Eisenhower, against all odds, brilliantly orchestrated the most important military maneuver in modern history.
Oh, that look on General Montgomery's face when the King pulled out and lit one. Priceless.
He was like OMG what the heck?
Montgomery at 4:21:
“I hate you all...”
Its Good to be the King!
Monty was like Patton and lots of powerful people he was arrogant and Ike was too but just really good at hiding it I’ve got close friends that just can’t help but brag on themselves and it’s an insecurity I think.?
It never happened.
I met Tom Selleck in my hometown in Indiana in the 90s. He was renting a hunting cabin near my home during deer season. He is a BIG fella. Very friendly .
Super friendly. Regular guy. Humble.
4:06 Poor Monty. He was DECADES ahead of his time on the smoking issue. He'd have loved living today.
The scene is rubbish. There is NO evidence that Montgomery banned smoking in his headquarters.
Monty’s objection was a religious issue not health?
Best mini series on Ike I've seen. Tom Selleck not only nailed it he owns it.
He brought Ike to life. I watch this all the time. A lesson in leadership
Selleck finest performance.
100 percent
IKE was the best man for the job.
I love it how King George blazes up and everyone else follows suit. Right after Monty makes Ike put it away.
respect to the researchers for the movie. They used the right Canadian flag for the era.
Faulty research included portraying Monty pitching before June a dagger thrust when he started that several months later.
Monty had a look on his face during the smoking scene that was like :T Deez mothafuckas.
4:19: Monty looking at Everyone like “Man Fuck All Y’all🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿”😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is a great movie!! As a army combat vet, I believe this is exactly the way Ike acted and made decisions at top level!! Always still caring for the common soldiers!!
Thank God for the vets of WW2-and General Eisenhower.
Of all the movies about D-Day, & Ike…I think Tom Selek portrayed him the absolute best. And if Ike were still around…begrudgingly….he’d agree.
actually, Ike was superb at public relations, without ever grandstanding
At some point we’ll stop bickering about who did more or who saved who. The truth is it was an allied operation and everyone contributed to the success of this endeavor. America needed a base of operations in Europe and the British needed the production capabilities of the USA. The rest all contributed to the war effort.
The cost in blood and iron was different for every country. But the one thing that nobody can deny, is that every country was willing to pay that cost in blood and iron. And were it not for the efforts of all the allied nations, that costs would have been even higher.
Everybody vs the desert fox Erwin Rommel,yet aside from being bitter “enemies”,every single one of this men respected and held Rommel in high regards.
As brilliant as Monty was (give or take Operation Market Garden), he was still a pompous windbag. Being showed up by his own King was just perfect.
#WingZeroAlpha
Field Marshal Sir Bernard Law Montgomery was the Greatest General In History....Just Ask Him.:-)
The generals of that time were products of 19th century training, a completely different social class system.... basically an aristocracy. Especially in Europe. Monty was what the English military expected in a leader. For heaven sakes, look at the French generals..... their country ran like schoolgirls and basically joined their invaders to keep from being "hurt".... yet, the French generals thought they should be in charge and worshipped basically because of the military conquests of Napolean.
Anyway, God bless the U.S.A
@@stevenwiederholt7000 lol 😂
I think you and the Americans should cut Montgomery some slack, he had been a smoker from very young but in later life he had a major scare when his doctors thought for a while that he had lung cancer. It would not be question now that you would not smoke in such circumstances. Indeed the KIng, a heavy smoker, would sadly die of lung cancer. Perhaps Montgomery was ahead of his time.
@@davidhoward8270
Didn't know that...thanks.
Think is, thanks to the Movie Patton, he doesn't have a good rep here.
Monty lost the goodwill of a lot of Americans when he tried to take all the credit for the victory on Europe upon himself and the Brits. It was a team effort on the part of ALL OUR ALLIES, not just the British. Thankfully, Churchill set the record straight by acknowledging as much.
The briefing took place in St Paul's school hall in Hammersmith west London. The school was used by Montgomery and his staff to plan the land offensive. The building has since been demolished and the site is now a public park but there is a blue plaque marking the site on the gate post. The beach landings were planned at Southwick House just outside Portsmouth which was the main HQ for Operation Overlord. The building and the map room which appears later in the movie still remain as they were then.
I’ve got to visit London when this virus is over.
@@ronniebishop2496 If you do come to London take the tube to Hammersmith and walk along Hammersmith Road towards Kensington. When you pass Latymers pub on the right (good beer served there) you will see a small park with red brick walls and gateposts next to an unusual small red brick hotel and restaurant. There is a small blue plaque on the gatepost and in the park an information board about the D-day planning that took place in a school building that has unfortunately been demolished but stood in the park grounds. You can get back to central London by catching a number 9 double-decker bus on the opposite side of the road (the bus is pretty frequent, about every 10 mins). Its one of the most scenic routes in London and takes you past Kensington Palace and Gardens, the Albert Hall, Hyde Park, Knightsbridge (for Harrods), Green Park (for Buckingham Palace), Piccadilly, Trafalgar Square and finally the Strand. Top deck front seats for a very cheap grandstand view of London.
Accystanman Thank you so much, that exactly what I’d like to see. Also if I may ask, do they rent rooms in that little hotel?
@@ronniebishop2496 Yes but its posh and a bit pricey. Nice restaurant and a bar that specialises in whisky:
www.stpaulhotel.co.uk/
There is also a huge Novotel nearby also on the right before you get to the D-day park from Hammersmith station:
www.novotellondonwest.co.uk/
Its a modern hotel popular with tourists, especially Japanese.
Actually Hammersmith is a very good location for visiting London because it is easy to get to from Heathrow airport and has excellent public transport links as well as a good selection of hotels. It is far enough out of central London to be less expensive and the district has some really good attractions especially along the river where there are amazing pubs and restaurants and a very picturesque old bridge, which is unfortunately closed for major repairs at the moment. The Hammersmith Apollo theatre is also a top international venue with big stars from all over the world. Not far away is the biggest shopping mall in Europe called Westfield.
This whole episode shows the greatness of the United States of America. Only this great country would organize this momentous event. Thank God for Easy Company and Dick Winters, the true heroes of Bastogne.
It has always been particularly interesting to me how "cigarette smoking" has been completely pivotal in the design of this movie - particularly in these scenes.
An important episode of Hogan's Heroes where Col Hogan and his team had also contributed to the success of operation overlord, trying to create issues within the German general staff.
Best role Selleck ever played
About the American flag in this scene. IF that flag is hanging in front of a window, it has been hung properly. An American flag hanging indoors in front of a window is hung so that the blue field of stars is seen on the left when the flag is viewed from outside the window looking in.
There are a lot of windows in that room.
Cigarettes are the only thing Montgomery was right about. Even his achievements in North Africa were based on Bletchley Park though that was not public until the 1970s.
He was given good intelligence and acted on it. I don't see the issue.
He was right about not fighting on the broad front. He didn't trust intelligence, he wouldn't know about Bletchley Park at that time it was so secret.
@@davidhoward8270 He knew and was being spoon-fed information from it. Top brass like he were told not to take any action without a suitable counter-story on how the information was obtained.
I thought he was going to say he wasn’t issued any dignity. I hate smoking too but for totally different reasons than Monty. My mom was a Methodist saint too but smoked Pall Mall and Phillip Morris like freight trains. Small ones. The king seemed to know nobody would light up unless he did first.
The Churchill character is good too.
03:58 The King of England! I thought he was some naval officer at first...
Btw saying that dick winters won ww2 together with easy company is a bit like saying King George VI won the battle of Stalingrad.
It just didn't happen like that. Bastogne was just a small unimportant village that was stuck behind enemy lines.
Without Patton's army saving their asses and the USAF supplying Bastogne via airdrops, they would all be PoWs or worse. Wars are a team effort, not airborn3Wtfpwnz
@Ingrid C wow this was reply to 11 years old message, but I agree now. Dick Winters was hero.
How cool is that to have the king of England stand up and applaud you....
Montgomery and Patton... more alike than either could possibly imagine. Different nurture - same nature.
Not sure where we'd be today without them.
Yes. I have recently watch it. I was deeply moved. These guys did so much to save us all. Scholars Thomas "Tom" Hanks and Steven Spielberg are on hand to provide historical expertise.
Sarcasm, right?
I love this scene.
Hanks is probably the greatest Military Scholar of World War Two. He has painstakingly evolved each and every man to bring him alive to the public in the truly epic series "Band of Brothers. Make no mistake. Hanks believes these men won World War Two.
Tom Selleck best movie to me. I look forward on watching this around Memorial Day and D -Day. Watching as Queen Elizabeth husband lights up a cigarette gets me. Because Montgomery told Ike not to smoke.
In case you're confusing the two, that isn't the current Queen, that's her mother and her husband is in fact King George VI.
A side note to this is Churchill originally planned to cross the Channel with the invasion force and refused to be talked out of it by his aides. On being told about this by a worried Jans Smuts, the King informed Churchill that if he was going across with the invasion force then it was only right that he should as well as half of all the men taking part were his subjects.
Suffice to say, an alarmed Churchill quickly changed his mind.
Ike shook hands with King George VI & Queen Elisabeth (later to be known as the Queen Mother)
Poor Rex died of lung cancer age 56. cigarettes couldn't have helped Ike's heart condition, though he made it to 79, and undoubtedly would have made it longer with today's medications and treatments
@krank34 He said, "I am in this thing with you until the very end, and if it fails we go down together."
Yes by the end of the war, when the UK was demobolising and transferring troops to the east. However at D-Day and the immediate aftermath, ie. the hard part, US were outnumbered by British Empire troops.
Correct.
The Americans did the hard stuff. My father's cousin was a deputy in D-Day. He even met Ike. I think he could have even spoken to the heroes in Easy Company and the greatest leader in the war, Dick Winters. The Dutch made statues for many of the American soliders. My father's cousin also had his own Dutch Statue. They loved the American GIs.
Sorry pal but that statement is just too narrow. Everyone did the hard stuff. For example: Canadians died in the North Atlantic keeping the Russian army supplied with ammo fuel and food. The Russians destroyed over half the German Army. 70,000 allied soldiers sailors and airmen lost their lives in the battle of the Atlantic. That is a lot of people and 4,600 of them were Canadian. The Americans landed 73,000 troops on the two American beaches, Utah and Omaha, and the British and Canadian landed 83,115 troops on the three beaches they were tasked with taking. The Canadians did the mine sweeping for the invasion, a dangerous nasty job. 50,000 Canadians participated in the D Day invasion. Aussies, New Zealanders, free Poles, free French, India, (87000 dead), and many others all gave all to defeat the Nazis. Only an idiot would disrespect the sacrifice of the American forces but they were not alone by any means.
Watch a movie called "The Girl Who Wore Freedom". About DDay and the love the French in Normandy have for the Americans .. to this day. They start annual celebrations in May and continue to June every year.
Didn’t Monty know the king smoked? If he didn’t he’s a damn fool! 😅😅😅
I guess a general just doesn’t feel fulfilled unless he’s whining about something. Even smoking a damn cigarette.
true the royal couple are the parents of the current queen of england. churchill was probably joking because he himself was half american. he is probably referring to that
Montgomery was just as bad as MacArthur was about his vanity.
Not sure Montgomery took other nations victorys and attributed them to himself and the British like McArthur did to the Australians.
as the big map showed, canada took one beach, the USA took two and Britain took two. Hopefully this will help to dispel the myth that D-Day was an american operation.
Uh, when was that a myth?
@@picklerix6162 It has been a myth since June 6, 1944...
As an ignorant American 65 yo, never heard of this myth. Everyone knows the US, the British, and Canadians did D day as a joint operation, though few may know the exact proportions. Lack of awareness is more regarding the extent of Soviet Union contribution not at D day, but prior, in the East, which was so far greater in casualties.
@@carlabroderick5508 At best, many Americans will concede that 'the British had some part' in Overlord. However, they usually wouldn't have a clue that Canadians attacked one of the five beaches and if they did would lump them in with 'the British'.
So, while I appreciate your detailed knowledge of the facts, it has been my experience that your perspective is uncommon among our American cousins.
Do you people still think the king or queen of England are just figureheads? As a yank from America I can assure you they never have been. Even Churchill said the best form of government was a monarchy! I’m beginning to wonder maybe he’s right, especially after the figures of characters we have running in the United States. Yes it’s sad!!!
Would having a map of Normandy the size of a movie theatre screen not be a significant security risk?
@Joseph Henderson Of course the Germans knew that invasion was coming.
However, having a map of that size describing the details of the landing would make the location fairly obvious.
Sorry Monty..But smoke ‘em if you got ‘em…
I miss when you could smoke in bars and got to a donut shop in the morning and have the breakfast of CHAMPIONS; a donut, black coffee like tar, and a cig..
here here Rusty! It took all NONE was better than the other.We can NEVER EVER allow that to happen again Everyone waited to long and it allowed hitler to build a huge army. we can never let dictators become so large and let them take other countries like hitler was allowed.
@maureenOWW for me pp l say it was just the americans that did alot of it but it was the combined forces of all the nations that had to do what must be done eisenhower was not selfish in anything he was a brilliant military tactian and he relied his commanders sometimes butting heads but he understood that europe had to be liberated and he knew all europen allies need to fight to restore what was theres before the german conquest so it was not only the americans but all the allies remeber that
Monty’s rules went up in smoke. But how many people would not have died from cancer if his rules were mandated all over the world.
@throbbin87 wtf?!
He was under Harold Alexander's command in Italy & North Africa..
Monty always wanted to be ground general..
Burn, baby, burn - disco inferno!
It’s always the poor man that fight their wars
@throbbin87 Very insightful. I personally think that without US help, the USSR would have been defeated. If you see the series Band of Brothers, the whole war in Europe hinged on Bastogne. The other campaigns like France, Greece, Libya and Italy were sideshows. The main battle was through France. A key unit was Easy Company. Without Dick Winters and his unit, the outcome of WW2 could have been very different. Leading historian and WW2 scholar Thomas Hanks explains this carefully.
@throbbin87 Monty never wanted to be SHEAF because that job had far too much to do with politics, he wanted to be Ground Forces Commander under SHEAF but he knew that politically it was unlikely he would get the role and willing offered to serve under Bradley. It became a matter of principal to him because Eisenhower wasn't forfilling the duties of a Ground Forces Commander but was playing glorified quartermaster and mediator in the field and immersing himself in higher politics.
There were 72 American and 13 British/Commonwealth divisions (over 2 million men) in NW Europe by the end of the war. Are you seriously suggesting one single company won the war?
everybody's smoking in this series
Eisenhower was a chain smoker
Before the invasion the US had more Divisions and troops and air force personal sitting in the ETO than any other country in that area. As for Naval personal the British kept most of thier fleet in ETO but soon after 44 they were moved to Pacific and Indian Oceans. BTW the British had to demobiles several divisions for replacements before VE day
4:05 i love this
"The devil lies in the details".....
Ike was always the best choice
Quick question, before Ike and who I assume is Prince Philip shook hands did Churchill call Eisenhower an American cousin? If so that's wrong, Roosevelt and Macarthur were cousins, albeit distant cousins.
That’s king George 6th
Well if you count LSTs then the US had more ships but for the most part the US navy was in the Pacific which is what I said. As for numbers well it was and will always be a numbers game. The US had 4 field armies by the time of Bulge that sums it up. The only time the British had more troops in France was during the 30 day build up after the invasion. After that the US had a lot more troops. When the Joint Chiefs had to decide either germany or Japan, Public would say Japan w/o Ike in charge
the American flag is hanging wrong on the wall. The blue field should be in the upper left when displayed vertically.
It's kind of strange now hearing the King speaking without his stutter
Wasn't the stutter just for public speaking? I know that they were in front of a lot of people but the King wasn't the one giving the speech in this scene.
I agree with most here. Love Lt Winters and the 101st and their contributions to the war but jeez,...
They should of worked on IKE's smoking skill! Slash how to hold a square when smoking!!
I’m not sure if they recreated the scene perfectly, but I guarantee Gen Eisenhower did not stand and brief the King and Queen of England with an American Flag hanging on the wall BACKWARDS!!
None in this entire production about D-Day even realized the American Flag was hung wrong???
Its a pile e of rubbish.
Jesus christ! Dorky always underestimated the Germans....ALWAYS!! Even Trafford, Mallory and his countryman thought he was an ass!! He had more latitude than Patton did, but Patton was TWICE the warrior and commander than Dorky was!
@Theris1011 : Yepp ! Jim Marrs also has good info on all of this.
The King’s hat is just too big.....
i can;t understand what churchill said in the end of the speech.
He asked Ike if he could bum a light off him
You do know that the canadians advanced farther in inland than any other army on d-day.
And that’s why they call Europe the battlefield of the world. 😮
We're going to get hosed. But we have to do it.
I don’t think Ike had the big racist lecture with Patton, not like that.
Maybe but US troops outnumbered the British nearly three-to-one in the fight for Europe.
thanks.
4:20: "cancer wil avenge me..."
Did Ike ever stop smoking ???
I remember this one book I read about the planning of the invasion of France. It said at this time Ike was pretty much a nervous wreck and thus he was chainsmoking. He would often lite a cigarette, take a couple drags, then put it down and lite a new one.
Debriefing the King...
All concerned paid a high price. None could have made Over Lord a success without the other's cooperation. So, stop trying to minimize one group over the other.
It's GOOD TO BE THE KING. 😉
@KnightOwl2006 VERY!
Lighter, maybe. But Heavily defended. Better defended than Utah, Sword or gold. Under several intense counterattacks. So My original Comment still holds water.
Without the Western Allies the Russians would have been pushed to the Urals. Don't forget there was another fight in the Pacific where the Americans did most of the fighting.
Smoke them if you got them...
Did you just watch Band of Brothers or something?
There were millions of allied soldiers involved in the war. Those 200 did not effect the out come.
Trump need to watch this they are heros not suckers and i thank them
He would have no interest in this. It's not about him.
He would have no interest in this. It's not about him.
You know everyone who was actually in the room during that "quote" denies that Trump ever said it.
Right?
You know almost every successful person I’ve ever worked with in the music industry or in public high dollar sales or in the oil and gas industry with my family and especially in the military when I was under different commands in America and Vietnam were all like Trump, loud arrogant and hard to deal with. Anyone that try’s to put Trump out on some lone island of people that never existed proves that they have never done much in their own lives or been very successful at anything. It’s amazing. And I’ve heard him say some harsh things about people and especially the military that really bothers me. But as an ex commander of the DAV Trumps Mission Act and others help vets immensely.
@@kennethdawson7774Not aged well . Its been confirmed.
That's the same argument you yanks use for WW1- you had more troops in the theartre. That's irrelevant if they're not involved in battle. Over half of all troops involved in D-Day, including support, naval and air, were British Empire.
In every year of the war the RAF dropped more tonnes of bombs over Germany than the USAAF. And if you really think the US had more ships in Europe than the Royal Navy, then you sir are a silly silly man.
saga. The USSR were important too.
Read a book!!!!
No. The Russians did the real hard stuff. The Americans just mopped up the remaining resistance.