I enjoy the ongoing joke where Woolie keeps asking Pat about the Kraven film that hasn't even come out yet. The best part is that I can't tell if he knows or not.
The rule with Gotham was that they weren't allowed to use the Joker. So that character who was totally the joker was definitely NOT the Joker, even after his face got all fucked up and he had a permanent smile, he was definitely not the Joker Other things were on the table. We don't see "commissioner" Gordon because he's not a commissioner yet. But Jim Gordon, who will one day be the commissioner, is actually the main character of the series
This is what annoys me about a lot of Batman media. Like for fucks sake, Batman's rogues gallery is HUGE, not everything has to be the Joker. Give Scarecrow or someone a go.
rrrgh i feel like a butthole for criticizing someone's happiness... but dangit Woolie, it wasn't that funny!! the Silent Hill 3 lp intro made me not watch it. (well that and the STATE of the SH 2 lp) i'm going to heck aren't i?!
If we operate on that logic, then Nero is basically the strongest one because of how much responsibility he takes on both during and after the events of 4. Followed up by Dante trying to keep Nero out of things in 5 and then choosing to stay in hell to look after Vergil post Qliphoth-logging montage.
Madame Web feels like a movie where the producers all thought that if you plug some standard(?) elements into a script, film it and distribute it, money will just magically roll into your bank account, all inexplicably completely unaware that movies are meant to be watched and enjoyed by human beings. It's like the final boss of this particular kind of filmmaking. To call it a bad movie is just straight up incorrect because that would imply that it's even a real movie.
they probably asked the SONY AI MOVIE ALGORITHM what would make them a bunch of money and it said "Madame Web" film and then laid it out and said they'll earn 4 billion dollars. and then sony just went ahead with it
The stupid movie executives were probably like “Superhero action plus quirky characters plus mimicking a more popular franchise must result in a smash hit movie! We don’t need things like good writing and plot. As long as we got those three ingredients, we’ll succeed.” XD
Remember when studios would make a cheap shitty movie to keep the rights to a superhero but never release it and use it as a tax write off? Yeah Madame Web feels like that but they actually released it like an actual movie...
Imagine if during DMC3, Dante leaves Lady and Vergil, cut to black, "One Week Later" appears. And that is how they justified his SMT Nocturne appearance.
Either they HEAVILY rewrote the movie and had to ADR all the villains dialogue, or they gave him a really dumb voice and decided last minute they had to redub it, either way it's really noticable. I thought it was just when he had his mask on but there are scenes where he's maskless and you can see his mouth isn't moving right
36:19 as someone who is a Spider-Man fan, I also think the spider totem stuff is dumb. Also, fun fact, in the comics Peter being one of the only ones who's radioactive becomes a plot point because the vampires that are chasing them across dimensions are weak to radiation and no I won't explain that point further
@@gameb9oy I guess? To me, canon events follow the same structure as time travel "rules". The name is neat in a meta context, but it's nothing mindblowing unless I'm missing something. I agree though that it's at least more interesting.
I like this new meme of legally distinct classic movie quotes. "Honestly my dear, I'm not interested." "What is this, some kind of expendable platoon?" "You can do magic, Harold." "When we're born, it's bloody. When we turn 18, it's bloody. When we die, it's bloody. That damn blood is just no good." "MEET ME AT THE HELICOPTER!" "Return my daughters stuffed rabbit to it's packaging please." "What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash? I'll tell you what you get! You get what you fucking deserve oh wait that one's real
I don't understand why the villain with mystical spider powers needs technology to find these girls. You'd think he'd be led to them by his spider sense or something. He'd had been a lot more intimidating if we didn't know who he was, why he's after these girls and how he keeps finding them. Remember this quaint little film called The Terminator? Why was that character scary? At first he was mysterious and seemingly unstoppable. Later we know exactly how unstoppable he is. This is one of the only instances of more information making a villain more scary
Literally everything important in this universe came from the amazon. Venom, morbius, and now these people technically got their powers from an amazon rainforest.
This movie is Sony sitting next to Marvel on a long car ride, hovering their finger an inch away from Marvel's face, and going "I'm not touching you! I'm not touching you! What, are you gonna get mad? I'm not touching you!"
@@just_matt214 Yeah I get that but I'm one of those people that argues against watching contemporary bad movies when there's 100 years of good movies to watch. I hate watch stuff for fun sometimes but that should really be a treat not a regular meal. And Neil Breen ironically funny movies are legitimately good even if unintended.
@@hosvet_animation Oh i agree with you, i don't sit through bad shit unless i'm with friends and we're all *very* bored myself lmao - just explaining the reasoning i heard from'em.
It really sucks because I’d genuinely like a Spider-Woman film if done well. Especially Spider-Gwen or Jessica Drew. But this has probably poisoned the well.
God I think the most confusing and frustrating thing is that you can do something interesting with characters who aren't Peter Parker, but they never try with these movies and are somehow getting worse. Why even bother hiring four actors to play superheroes, if they only appear for 4 minutes? At least Morbius was a vampire and fought some people in it. Also, you just know the executives were so proud of themselves for making her blind and in a wheel chair at the end. Like they really expected reaction videos of people going "HOLY SHIT, SHE'S CRIPPLED! WE MADE IT MADAME WEBHEADS!"
The only way the ending could have outdone the Inspector Gadget Yahoo! Sign crushing, would be if they had "PEPSI MAAAAAAAAN" play while the P crushed him
@@cyberninjazero5659I don't even know who that is. The way people talk about her in social media makes me think she's a Corn star... But then again... Dudes on Twitter do jerk off to literally anyone nowadays.
remember, this is the movie where SYDNEY SWEENEY had to fight to wear the skin tight outfit. and it was only shown for like 10 seconds. the fck is wrong with the film makers in general? if you have her and she is wanting to wear that, YOU GET HER IN THAT AS LONG AS YOU FCKING CAN AND PLASTER IT ALL OVER THE PROMOMATERIAL!!!! on unrelated note, i watched the new ghostbusters yesterday. that was a decent time. some very awkward plot contrivances and maybe a hole or two, but in general pretty good. would watch again.
Sony Pictures are the stuck in Brian Singer X-Men era approach to comic book adaptations, that’s how behind they are. They don’t wanna fully commit to Marvel bizarreness but it’s “silly” while ignorant to the fact everyone is laughing them.
The vilain should have died by having pepsi man jump off a sky scraper and elbow drop him in the face while madam webb missile dropkicks him in the back, then when he tries to get up, pepsi man hits him with a shining wizard so hard it lauches him at rediculous speed and then madam web and chester cheetah grab him in mid air and do some kind of crazy tag team mortal kombat xray move
Woolie is way off base whith his Gotham summary. Joker is the only big thing they had to dance around. That and I think calling Bruce Batman in the finale. Other than that they were VERY explicit about who the characters were and there importance to the Batman mythos. Heck Bruce Wayne was an major character for the entire show.
I wonder if they just had ai rewrite the whole script. Like they took the original, pushed it into an ai with certain limitations and parameters and this is what it shat out.
Megamind 2 feels more like a movie written by a machine, but I honestly don't have the energy to talk about a film/show everyone knew from the get-go would be a cashgrab.
12:53 "Is it *Paul* ?" I assume Woolie hasn't read the current ASM run by Zeb Wells but MAN that question is gonna give some people a stress response episode.
I like the idea of the movie protagonist pulling an RPG player character and just leaving their companions for a week mid plot to go do some completely unrelated side shit for no reason. I’m sure it’s not what actually happens, but that’s pretty funny. Also I get technically they probably can’t say it here for legal reasons, but it’s kinda insane to me that aside from Spider-Verse (which was too good) no Spider-Man movie since SM3 in 2007 has said “with great power comes great responsibility.” I don’t know why they always walk around the line in such dumb ways, like it’s the line of Spider-Man.
@@li-limandragon9287Tyler is the smartest character in any of David Cage’s games because he realizes he can just leave. Like dude just gets on the train or whatever with his girlfriend and is gone for the entire rest of the game, doesn’t even appear in the ending. He got out of David’s Cage.
It's such a video game thing. "Hey the president of the NCR's gonna be at Hoover Dam and you need to prevent his assassination." "Tell him and the assassin they'll have to wait, I'm going to Zion for a week."
10:51 whats wierd is that the blonde spider woman with the shit family is supposed to be Madame webs grand daughter who she transfers the connection to the spiderverse so spider woman can be the actual young Madame web not the one from the movie.
Oh man. If you knew anything about interviews and production for this movie you'd know beforehand this was going to be an incredible trashfire of epic porportions. Some of them have to be seen to be believed.
Alternatively, you didn't need to watch or read any of those because it's a movie about MADAME WEB. If you're at the point where you're making a Madame Web movie, it's clear that you have failed in life
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeatThere's like 2 Spider Man characters that they absolutely wouldn't work as a solo movie in a world without Spider-Man and Sony somehow managed to pick them both side by side. Heck at this point introducing Morbius without a single hint at Blade is just the dumbest thing you could possibly do outside than officially acknowledging Superman and Batman's mom have the same name.
I was expecting a peter parker nativity scene ngl. Its amazing how you go in expecting them to screw up spider woman and madame web's family ties but woof, making it 2003 is ruff
@@li-limandragon9287 a book on terminal velocity so my boy can avoid snapping necks, a note about how important it is to find Cindy Moon, I feel like life will always find a way to fuck up his life I'd get him life insurance for his parents and his uncle. I swear it's like where death is in love with Deadpool, and that's a good thing. Life is in love with peter but that bitch is toxic. man Paul was such low hanging bait at this point it feels like it was just an excuse to drive up hype for when they gave peter a wife an kids in the ultimate relaunch. Like I bet the next step because of this madame web jazz they're gonna make Mary Jane a Madame web because she has red haired and life/Destiny will keep fucking up their lives otherwise.
Gotham is a beautiful show that goes absolutely crazy and keeps going crazier, recommend if you want a wild ride haven't seen Gotham Knights, hear it's pretty bad
the fact that woolie brings up the name paul and since it's woolie i don't know if he making a reference to paul from the more recent spider man comics or just looking for another p name that isn't peter is brilliant
Wasn't there some sort of rumor that all the actors were basically lied to? Like, everyone hyped them up with "OMG You want this, you'll be in the MCU!" and when everyone found out they were tricked, they couldn't back out?
Less rumors and more people finding out the actresses tagged Marvel Studios when the trailer launched and then a few weeks later one of the actors fired their agent and all of the stars were apathetic and very dismissive of the movie in interviews and such almost like they realized they were scammed.
I saw a clip from that baby shower scene and it was so weird. Before they did the name guessing they had to write and share favorite memories about their moms, she didn't write anything because of course her mom died after childbirth but it was played so awkward intentionally and then a balloon pops for no reason? I just watched that and was like "so her power is that she can pop balloons with her mind?"
Didn't someone confirm that Sony basically tricks actors to sign on for their movies thinking they are signing onto an MCU movie? Side note: Jesus Christ, how bad did the movie have to be when not even Marvel is doing their signature "Synergy" shit? Like even ignoring Madame Web, I don't think any of the Spider Girls in the movie appeared in Marvel post Spider Gwen and Silk's debuts lol
Idk about confirmations but what some actors have said it seems like its a possibility. So many of them say how excited they are to join the MCU that its very telling.
@@derpstick5467 usually when theres a marvel based movie or game comes out they alter the comics to line up like when the og spiderman movie came out he had organic webbing in the comics for a bit or they started drawing tony stark closer to RDJ after ironman 1 was a hit
@@leithaziz2716 Actually, there was an alternate version of Nick Fury that was literally molded after Samuel Jackson in the comics and that’s basically how he got the role in the movies.
Speaking of product placement: my favorite scene in Godzilla x Kong 2 is when the lady picks the girl up from school and when the camera cuts to the car they're getting in it's a bright red Volkswagen (if I remember right) perfectly framed dead center in the screen with nothing blocking the view from it. It looked like a shot ripped right out of the end of a commercial where they show the car model in different colors
Yes, I was waiting for this. I’ve yet to watch Morbius, but rest assured I’ll eventually watch the entirety of Sony Marbel Vniverse. Maybe the MCU will bring Sony Marvelverse in via Multiverse of Madness 2? 🤷♂️ someday? Then we’ll rejoice Datoka: “-and the third movie is Will the Real Spiderman Please Stand-Up.”
I gotta disagree with Pat about Dakotas performance, shes easily one of the worst and funniest parts of this. COMPLETELY checked out, zero actual emotion from her, pure robot actor mode.
So...Sony and Columbia Pictures are still like actual studios right? They're not just buildings filled with interns? Because the descriptions of Madame Web and Morbius really make me wonder.
I'd imagine that part of the deal Sony made with Disney when they agreed to co-produce the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies is that Sony can't use Peter Parker or certain things related to him in live-action movies that Marvel Studios isn't a part of
@@drexalnewb1500 They teased Tom Hardy's Venom in the Tom Holland films, so im a little confused on who is it exactly that is making the push for them to cross over.
I watched it to see for myself and Pat might have been underselling how awful the dubbing on the villain was. I think Neil Breen might actually have sounded more natural than this guy. It sounds like they were cutting between different takes on every other word like OG Resident Evil. Also the flashforward scenes look terrible. Something about the filters they use and the costume materials makes it look like a low budget 90s show.
Does Woolie watch movies that pat also watches? It usually pat that watches these things and woolie getting secondhand experiences. When's the last time they both watched a movie and talked about it ?
I enjoy the ongoing joke where Woolie keeps asking Pat about the Kraven film that hasn't even come out yet. The best part is that I can't tell if he knows or not.
that's next level Morbhead right there!
Kraken: The next Morb-tation.
To be fair, they have been talking up the movie like it'll come out next week, every week.
I also doubt Woolie really cares, he's not an idiot.
"Let's all laugh at an industry that never learns anything tee hee hee."
"An industry that never learns anything"
Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
@@i.m.evilhomer5084sounds like you've got some bones to pick
@@firepanda1874some? The whole damn fish is bones
"When you laugh at an industry, it never learns"
- Madame Web
Kudos to Sony, at least they release their movies
Clearly the message with dude getting crushed by a Pepsi sign is that Pepsiman beats knockoff Spider-Man with ease
Pepsiman low diffs Spider-Man
Pepsiman solos The Avengers
I thought they were kidding with this shit. I can't stop laughing watching how 99¢ Ezekiel/99¢ Kaine fucking dies.
"Oh no! He's gone off! Pepsi."
It’s Webbin’ Time! To the Madamcopter! 🚁 💥
Y'know, I kinda liked the Morbin Time meme mainly cause it sounded a lot like "It's Morphin Time!" from Power Rangers. This just doesn't hit the same.
@@leithaziz2716I always thought it was a reference to the Thing's "It's clobberin' time" catchphrase
Hope there’s a sequel featuring the Hindenmadam
Tururu runnnn
The rule with Gotham was that they weren't allowed to use the Joker. So that character who was totally the joker was definitely NOT the Joker, even after his face got all fucked up and he had a permanent smile, he was definitely not the Joker
Other things were on the table. We don't see "commissioner" Gordon because he's not a commissioner yet. But Jim Gordon, who will one day be the commissioner, is actually the main character of the series
This is what annoys me about a lot of Batman media. Like for fucks sake, Batman's rogues gallery is HUGE, not everything has to be the Joker. Give Scarecrow or someone a go.
@@ratking1608 Problem is there _has_ to be someone who's interested to write him be interesting.
@@ratking1608maybe go back to his first appearance, have him try to rob banks to buy books haha
All I need to instantly click is a picture of Woolie cackling in joy
it's just that easy!
Morbin Flow
I see woolie howl, I click
rrrgh i feel like a butthole for criticizing someone's happiness... but dangit Woolie, it wasn't that funny!! the Silent Hill 3 lp intro made me not watch it. (well that and the STATE of the SH 2 lp) i'm going to heck aren't i?!
"When I'm angry, I'm not very likable"
"When I'm angry I'm usually drunk"
@@johnrivers3813"when I am drunk, I usually beat people".
"you would like me more if i calmed down"
I'm not very likeable when I'm mad.
I saw on twitter that Paige convinced Pat to see Madam Web with her. I recall her response was "Oh"
DANTE! WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO GAIN MORE RESPONSIBILITY?!
I dont want it said dante the eccentric yahoo pizza boy
Vergil says, while being a deadbeat dad
Is THAT why he had a kid? Because he heard they were a big responsibility?
@@TimBagels Deadbeat dad of a deadweight kid lol
If we operate on that logic, then Nero is basically the strongest one because of how much responsibility he takes on both during and after the events of 4. Followed up by Dante trying to keep Nero out of things in 5 and then choosing to stay in hell to look after Vergil post Qliphoth-logging montage.
Woolie was in Grenada with my mom when she was researching Puppers just before she died
"Your Mother underestimated me just like you are!"
"She didn't know you Woolie, you shot her in the back to steal her magic Pie"
i'm.... sorry? 🤔
Is this how he got that DOG in him?
Plot twist: it was actually the cutlass guy who came back and killed her.
Plot twist, this is how he can smell all those pies he keeps stealing. He can smell every unstolen pie within a 3 mile radius
Pat hasn't seen Dune Part 2 but watched Madame Web.
One Man's Trash is Another Man's Treasure?
I dunno
Well dune 2 isn't streaming yet
@leithaziz2716 nah we need a funnier yet equally bad reason to watch madam web over dune
@@johnrivers3813yup waiting patiently for that to come to hbo max.
@@johnrivers3813 oh shit is it not in theaters anymore?
I laughed almost in exact unison with Woolie when Pat quoted that fucking Responsibility & Power line.
Madame Web feels like a movie where the producers all thought that if you plug some standard(?) elements into a script, film it and distribute it, money will just magically roll into your bank account, all inexplicably completely unaware that movies are meant to be watched and enjoyed by human beings. It's like the final boss of this particular kind of filmmaking. To call it a bad movie is just straight up incorrect because that would imply that it's even a real movie.
It's what happens when you reduce people and opinions to numbers and statistics. Just because there's a correlation it doesn't mean it's correct
they probably asked the SONY AI MOVIE ALGORITHM what would make them a bunch of money and it said "Madame Web" film and then laid it out and said they'll earn 4 billion dollars. and then sony just went ahead with it
and I guarantee they will not learn their lesson and just keep doing it cuz holy shit they are dumb as hell
The stupid movie executives were probably like
“Superhero action plus quirky characters plus mimicking a more popular franchise must result in a smash hit movie! We don’t need things like good writing and plot. As long as we got those three ingredients, we’ll succeed.”
XD
Remember when studios would make a cheap shitty movie to keep the rights to a superhero but never release it and use it as a tax write off? Yeah Madame Web feels like that but they actually released it like an actual movie...
Imagine if during DMC3, Dante leaves Lady and Vergil, cut to black, "One Week Later" appears. And that is how they justified his SMT Nocturne appearance.
Either they HEAVILY rewrote the movie and had to ADR all the villains dialogue, or they gave him a really dumb voice and decided last minute they had to redub it, either way it's really noticable. I thought it was just when he had his mask on but there are scenes where he's maskless and you can see his mouth isn't moving right
What's ADR? You mean re-dubbing?
@@leithaziz2716 essentially. It's the industry term. Means "Automated Dialog Replacement". Always think the A means "After-set" 😅
There’s no way the movie wasn’t originally Madame Web saving baby Peter
@@loganwendigo937That would’ve been slightly more interesting.
It's the "fuck it we'll fix it in post" mentality
"Thank you Pepsi. You supported us all along the journey, and you let the movie end, saving us."
"Pepsi... What a brand you are"
And then it plays the cringiest Pepsi ad featuting Kendall Jenner.
You either die a Pepsi or live long enough to see yourself become a Coke.
36:19 as someone who is a Spider-Man fan, I also think the spider totem stuff is dumb. Also, fun fact, in the comics Peter being one of the only ones who's radioactive becomes a plot point because the vampires that are chasing them across dimensions are weak to radiation and no I won't explain that point further
No you have to continue. Vampires?
There are ways to make "chosen one" plots compelling. But it's a lot harder to write and some people are put off from the idea by concept alone.
Yeah, that’s a big part of why spiderverse does things like canon events and stuff, it’s a more interesting way to frame a similar concept
JMS Spider-Man was always considered the last great Spider-Man run (before Nick Spencer), but it was batting duds half the time
@@gameb9oy I guess? To me, canon events follow the same structure as time travel "rules". The name is neat in a meta context, but it's nothing mindblowing unless I'm missing something. I agree though that it's at least more interesting.
I like this new meme of legally distinct classic movie quotes.
"Honestly my dear, I'm not interested."
"What is this, some kind of expendable platoon?"
"You can do magic, Harold."
"When we're born, it's bloody. When we turn 18, it's bloody. When we die, it's bloody. That damn blood is just no good."
"MEET ME AT THE HELICOPTER!"
"Return my daughters stuffed rabbit to it's packaging please."
"What do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash? I'll tell you what you get! You get what you fucking deserve oh wait that one's real
I don't understand why the villain with mystical spider powers needs technology to find these girls. You'd think he'd be led to them by his spider sense or something. He'd had been a lot more intimidating if we didn't know who he was, why he's after these girls and how he keeps finding them.
Remember this quaint little film called The Terminator? Why was that character scary? At first he was mysterious and seemingly unstoppable. Later we know exactly how unstoppable he is. This is one of the only instances of more information making a villain more scary
Strong enough to defeat Woolie's spoiler Goblins
It's not even a spoiler it's a warning sign
The spoiler goblins don't activate for movies Woolie knows he'll never watch
If you knew Woolie beyond the meme in yo skull you would know that only activates when it's a movie he cares about or pot of greed is played.
Madame Webb is just the prequel to a Pepsiman movie
Pepsiman!
Who you do underneath defines what you are.
I'm the hero that you deserve to need but not the one for this city
I’m crying. 😂 the fact that this made even a little sense has me dying.
You either die a villain or live long enough to become morally ambiguous.
"I never thanked you"
"And you'll never have to"
@@leithaziz2716 "Do you think Fear lives up in heaven because of what created God?"
@@cyberninjazero5659 Memes aside, Spy Kids throws some thoughtful existential questions from time to time and it's fascinating.
Me looking at Venom after Sony has utterly fumbled this bag:
"Perhaps I treated you too _kindly..._ "
😂
Never forget that “turd down the street” line
A human wrote that line
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat Didn't they take that straight from the comics?
@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat That line was funny tho
The Venom movies are alright and definitely the best come out of these Spider-Man related character movies.
@@Santoryu90They’re not worth the damage done to the characters. Venom and Carnage are great and these movies have let them down.
That responsibility line took me back to those meme videos of people who would quote google auto captions of songs or something. That's crazy.
Literally everything important in this universe came from the amazon. Venom, morbius, and now these people technically got their powers from an amazon rainforest.
I love that dakota johnson seems to have more open disdain for this movie than those 50 shades movies.
At least the fanbase liked those movies. Madame Web is for no one.
16:02 that laugh rejuvenates me every time.
This movie is Sony sitting next to Marvel on a long car ride, hovering their finger an inch away from Marvel's face, and going "I'm not touching you! I'm not touching you! What, are you gonna get mad? I'm not touching you!"
Pat, "I haven't watched 90% of all the classic movies out there." also Pat, "So I watched Madame Web WITH MY WIIIIFE!"
Afaik the explanation was that a good movie stays a good movie forever, while a bad movie is best watched while it's hot to take it in in the moment.
@@just_matt214 Yeah I get that but I'm one of those people that argues against watching contemporary bad movies when there's 100 years of good movies to watch. I hate watch stuff for fun sometimes but that should really be a treat not a regular meal.
And Neil Breen ironically funny movies are legitimately good even if unintended.
@@hosvet_animation Oh i agree with you, i don't sit through bad shit unless i'm with friends and we're all *very* bored myself lmao - just explaining the reasoning i heard from'em.
Madame Web was written like a two-part series premiere for a show that will never happen.
Sorry, no *Madame Web and her Spider-Girls* for you.
It really sucks because I’d genuinely like a Spider-Woman film if done well. Especially Spider-Gwen or Jessica Drew. But this has probably poisoned the well.
Damn...
why does pat's flannel shirt look like a LOD model that didn't load in properly
LMFAO damn that’s so specific but i see it
unreal 3 ass shirt 💀
When Woolie gets really laughing it makes my whole day.
The sound thst cleans the soul.
God I think the most confusing and frustrating thing is that you can do something interesting with characters who aren't Peter Parker, but they never try with these movies and are somehow getting worse. Why even bother hiring four actors to play superheroes, if they only appear for 4 minutes? At least Morbius was a vampire and fought some people in it.
Also, you just know the executives were so proud of themselves for making her blind and in a wheel chair at the end. Like they really expected reaction videos of people going "HOLY SHIT, SHE'S CRIPPLED! WE MADE IT MADAME WEBHEADS!"
Apparently they wanted Webb to be a multiversal bridge cauze she’s mystical. It’s putting the cart miles before the horse.
22:52 woolie kids but this straight up happens with the joker in some universe but its not awkward
The only way the ending could have outdone the Inspector Gadget Yahoo! Sign crushing, would be if they had "PEPSI MAAAAAAAAN" play while the P crushed him
My fave thing about Madame Web is that people didnt even make an ironic meme like with Morbius since no one cared enough to.
Oh and how they made a movie with Spider-Women but don't have them actually be superheroes or get their powers and instead have it be a sequel tease.
@@invaderpez12They had Sydney Sweeny's boobs in a tight black latex suit, if nothing else. But even being competent with the T&A is too much for them
Are the usual stooges gobbling it up?
@@cyberninjazero5659I don't even know who that is. The way people talk about her in social media makes me think she's a Corn star... But then again... Dudes on Twitter do jerk off to literally anyone nowadays.
we're approaching new levels of corpo insanity
Xplay’s very own Morbin Webb?
remember, this is the movie where SYDNEY SWEENEY had to fight to wear the skin tight outfit. and it was only shown for like 10 seconds. the fck is wrong with the film makers in general? if you have her and she is wanting to wear that, YOU GET HER IN THAT AS LONG AS YOU FCKING CAN AND PLASTER IT ALL OVER THE PROMOMATERIAL!!!!
on unrelated note, i watched the new ghostbusters yesterday. that was a decent time. some very awkward plot contrivances and maybe a hole or two, but in general pretty good. would watch again.
Sony Pictures are the stuck in Brian Singer X-Men era approach to comic book adaptations, that’s how behind they are.
They don’t wanna fully commit to Marvel bizarreness but it’s “silly” while ignorant to the fact everyone is laughing them.
Not only Sweeney, they had Merced as well...and they didn't get up into spandex for every possible scene.
I feel bad for her and the actresses.
The vilain should have died by having pepsi man jump off a sky scraper and elbow drop him in the face while madam webb missile dropkicks him in the back, then when he tries to get up, pepsi man hits him with a shining wizard so hard it lauches him at rediculous speed and then madam web and chester cheetah grab him in mid air and do some kind of crazy tag team mortal kombat xray move
15:58 did somebody say POWER?
vergil judgement cut at that exact moment, except with tickles, throwing woolie into hysterics as they all register at once.
UNLIMITED POWER!!
Woolie is way off base whith his Gotham summary. Joker is the only big thing they had to dance around. That and I think calling Bruce Batman in the finale. Other than that they were VERY explicit about who the characters were and there importance to the Batman mythos. Heck Bruce Wayne was an major character for the entire show.
I wonder if they just had ai rewrite the whole script. Like they took the original, pushed it into an ai with certain limitations and parameters and this is what it shat out.
Megamind 2 feels more like a movie written by a machine, but I honestly don't have the energy to talk about a film/show everyone knew from the get-go would be a cashgrab.
@@leithaziz2716does it count as a cash grab if it fails horribly and they lose money?
I feel like blaming this on AI is an insult to AI.
I could see this with them writing the script with all the references and tie-in lines, then executives/lawyers slapped their dicks on the table 😅
Now do you mean the show, or the actual sequel movie? Not that it matters, they’re both nothing.
I was listening to this as I went to get food and in the process of deciding a drink, I looked at the Pepsi and went "no, it has the Morb in it now"
"Lies, Injustice, and The Soviet Way." - Superman
With great power comes great product placement.
12:53 "Is it *Paul* ?"
I assume Woolie hasn't read the current ASM run by Zeb Wells but MAN that question is gonna give some people a stress response episode.
They know indirectly abouta that Paul
Hollywood is just delaying the inevitable Pepsiman movie, Shit will blow the MCU and Sony out of the water.
It's P for Peter Parker and Pepsi is the premiere brand flying Spider-Man's colors. It's like poetry.
just watched that clip of evil Spiderman vs Pepsi sign, FML
I like the idea of the movie protagonist pulling an RPG player character and just leaving their companions for a week mid plot to go do some completely unrelated side shit for no reason. I’m sure it’s not what actually happens, but that’s pretty funny.
Also I get technically they probably can’t say it here for legal reasons, but it’s kinda insane to me that aside from Spider-Verse (which was too good) no Spider-Man movie since SM3 in 2007 has said “with great power comes great responsibility.” I don’t know why they always walk around the line in such dumb ways, like it’s the line of Spider-Man.
It’s like that guy Tyler who just gets the leave in Indigo Prophecy.
@@li-limandragon9287Tyler is the smartest character in any of David Cage’s games because he realizes he can just leave. Like dude just gets on the train or whatever with his girlfriend and is gone for the entire rest of the game, doesn’t even appear in the ending.
He got out of David’s Cage.
It's such a video game thing.
"Hey the president of the NCR's gonna be at Hoover Dam and you need to prevent his assassination."
"Tell him and the assassin they'll have to wait, I'm going to Zion for a week."
10:51 whats wierd is that the blonde spider woman with the shit family is supposed to be Madame webs grand daughter who she transfers the connection to the spiderverse so spider woman can be the actual young Madame web not the one from the movie.
“With big responsibility comes big power”- Man Spider
Oh man. If you knew anything about interviews and production for this movie you'd know beforehand this was going to be an incredible trashfire of epic porportions. Some of them have to be seen to be believed.
Alternatively, you didn't need to watch or read any of those because it's a movie about MADAME WEB. If you're at the point where you're making a Madame Web movie, it's clear that you have failed in life
@@cyberninjazero5659not even spider-woman, fucking madame web...
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeatThere's like 2 Spider Man characters that they absolutely wouldn't work as a solo movie in a world without Spider-Man and Sony somehow managed to pick them both side by side. Heck at this point introducing Morbius without a single hint at Blade is just the dumbest thing you could possibly do outside than officially acknowledging Superman and Batman's mom have the same name.
I was expecting a peter parker nativity scene ngl. Its amazing how you go in expecting them to screw up spider woman and madame web's family ties but woof, making it 2003 is ruff
What three gifts should baby Peter get? Anti-Spider replant, a bullet proof vest for his uncle and the decapitated head of Sony executives and Paul?
@@li-limandragon9287 a book on terminal velocity so my boy can avoid snapping necks, a note about how important it is to find Cindy Moon, I feel like life will always find a way to fuck up his life I'd get him life insurance for his parents and his uncle.
I swear it's like where death is in love with Deadpool, and that's a good thing. Life is in love with peter but that bitch is toxic.
man Paul was such low hanging bait at this point it feels like it was just an excuse to drive up hype for when they gave peter a wife an kids in the ultimate relaunch. Like I bet the next step because of this madame web jazz they're gonna make Mary Jane a Madame web because she has red haired and life/Destiny will keep fucking up their lives otherwise.
@@OgieSifter I hope there’s a situation where Peter just gets the beat the shit out of the manifested “writer” Alan Wake or Animal Man style.
this already feels like it was years ago
16:03 Woolie’s laugh always gets me
At least uncle ben didn't die _again_
But he's dying to become an uncle tho.
Not yet…
Gotham is a beautiful show that goes absolutely crazy and keeps going crazier, recommend if you want a wild ride
haven't seen Gotham Knights, hear it's pretty bad
I’ll sum it up with “this game came out this year” while being compared side by side with Arkham knight. It isn’t flattering, to say the least.
Yeah... Thats because that show is building up to a world with Batman in it while this they can't even say the name "Peter" or "Parker"
the fact that woolie brings up the name paul and since it's woolie i don't know if he making a reference to paul from the more recent spider man comics or just looking for another p name that isn't peter is brilliant
You, uh... you aren't Catholic, are you. Paul is the first name that would follow Peter.
you know the clip is gonna be good when the thumbnail's got woolie yucking it up
Wasn't there some sort of rumor that all the actors were basically lied to? Like, everyone hyped them up with "OMG You want this, you'll be in the MCU!" and when everyone found out they were tricked, they couldn't back out?
Less rumors and more people finding out the actresses tagged Marvel Studios when the trailer launched and then a few weeks later one of the actors fired their agent and all of the stars were apathetic and very dismissive of the movie in interviews and such almost like they realized they were scammed.
Can't wait for Madame Web 2: Pepsiman rising
I saw a clip from that baby shower scene and it was so weird. Before they did the name guessing they had to write and share favorite memories about their moms, she didn't write anything because of course her mom died after childbirth but it was played so awkward intentionally and then a balloon pops for no reason? I just watched that and was like "so her power is that she can pop balloons with her mind?"
If this movie had real balls, Mary Parker would be Black Widowing like she did in the comics.
The meme for Kraven's movie is that people think its already out when its not coming out until August.
It’s now November and it’s still not out.
Didn't someone confirm that Sony basically tricks actors to sign on for their movies thinking they are signing onto an MCU movie?
Side note: Jesus Christ, how bad did the movie have to be when not even Marvel is doing their signature "Synergy" shit? Like even ignoring Madame Web, I don't think any of the Spider Girls in the movie appeared in Marvel post Spider Gwen and Silk's debuts lol
What’s the synergy in this context? Weren’t spider Gwen and Silk already popular at least with the comic book nerds before appearing in other stuff?
Idk about confirmations but what some actors have said it seems like its a possibility. So many of them say how excited they are to join the MCU that its very telling.
@@derpstick5467 usually when theres a marvel based movie or game comes out they alter the comics to line up like when the og spiderman movie came out he had organic webbing in the comics for a bit or they started drawing tony stark closer to RDJ after ironman 1 was a hit
@@frozenfeonix1328 Nick Fury was made to look like Sam Jackson after the Avengers and that pretty much stuck until today.
@@leithaziz2716 Actually, there was an alternate version of Nick Fury that was literally molded after Samuel Jackson in the comics and that’s basically how he got the role in the movies.
15:58 for pop culture's most iconic line.
Lee and Kerby are are rolling in there graves
What's Kirby got to do with this?
@@cyberninjazero5659He probably meant by boi Steve Ditko. I hope.
i thought they were gonna talk about Morgan Webb for some reason. My dyslexia has failed me once again
Who will the Sony Sinister Six fight? Why Venom of course!
I thought you might have had Morgan Webb be a guest but no it was just talking about movies that no one remembers 2 days after release
I'm going to laugh my ass off if Kraven comes out and it's the most amazing film to grace cinema since the OG Spider-Man...
Wait did Kraven come out 😂
The most A.I. generated movie so far.
4:47 Woah, hey. Let's not go that far.
Pepsi is the hero Gotham deserves.
Sony will never not fumble live action Marvel movies
I mean it’s a miracle Sam Raimi was allowed to get two good SM movies out before Sony ruined it.
PEPSIMAAAAAAAAAAAAN
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pepsi should be making pepsi man the movie tho. it would be dope
3:15 we have seen this in games tho, it sounds like madam morb got kidnapped and shipped to dondoko island
Speaking of product placement: my favorite scene in Godzilla x Kong 2 is when the lady picks the girl up from school and when the camera cuts to the car they're getting in it's a bright red Volkswagen (if I remember right) perfectly framed dead center in the screen with nothing blocking the view from it. It looked like a shot ripped right out of the end of a commercial where they show the car model in different colors
Yes, I was waiting for this. I’ve yet to watch Morbius, but rest assured I’ll eventually watch the entirety of Sony Marbel Vniverse.
Maybe the MCU will bring Sony Marvelverse in via Multiverse of Madness 2? 🤷♂️ someday? Then we’ll rejoice
Datoka: “-and the third movie is Will the Real Spiderman Please Stand-Up.”
C'mon my dude, it's time for you to Morb.
Great video as always!
5:50 You got Kangaroo Jack’d
Caressing a different man's rhubarb is ill-advised.
I gotta disagree with Pat about Dakotas performance, shes easily one of the worst and funniest parts of this. COMPLETELY checked out, zero actual emotion from her, pure robot actor mode.
I can never tell if these new Sony live action Marvel Sony movies are an actual attempt to keep the brands or a Scorched Earth Tactic...
So...Sony and Columbia Pictures are still like actual studios right? They're not just buildings filled with interns? Because the descriptions of Madame Web and Morbius really make me wonder.
No, they're buildings filled only with CEO's and shareholders. Interns would write better movies than these
What legality? Doesn’t Sony still own Spider-Man? Like it’s a movie they produced and made like what?
I'd imagine that part of the deal Sony made with Disney when they agreed to co-produce the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies is that Sony can't use Peter Parker or certain things related to him in live-action movies that Marvel Studios isn't a part of
@@drexalnewb1500 They teased Tom Hardy's Venom in the Tom Holland films, so im a little confused on who is it exactly that is making the push for them to cross over.
@@leithaziz2716 Yeah well Tom Hardy got sent back to his homeuniverse without ever meeting Spidey man.
@@leithaziz2716Tom Holland probably okayed the cameo but doesn’t actually want to be in SPUM and I don’t blame him.
Imagine the ending of Scarface with the Pepsi logo
soda cans in parasite eve vs madame webb
who did it better
i'm still holding out hope for kraven i can't help it
Morb'nMadameKrave trilogy is gonna be trash fire awesome
I watched it to see for myself and Pat might have been underselling how awful the dubbing on the villain was. I think Neil Breen might actually have sounded more natural than this guy. It sounds like they were cutting between different takes on every other word like OG Resident Evil.
Also the flashforward scenes look terrible. Something about the filters they use and the costume materials makes it look like a low budget 90s show.
Desperately need to know what Pat's shirt says
Does Woolie watch movies that pat also watches? It usually pat that watches these things and woolie getting secondhand experiences. When's the last time they both watched a movie and talked about it ?
The thing as far as I remember rn
15:50
Leaving this for me...
15:58 where the thumbnail came from
DAMMIT! I thought something happened to Morgan Webb.