For Honor - Nuxia Parry & Guardbreak Punishes
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
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Lord Dem thanks sexy beast
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Nuxia's class design is just so interesting to me. The way she moves, the way her attacks are set up. I just really like the character so thank you for doing this!
Thanks Dem for being the sacrifice
I was hyped like a baby when Freeze asked me LOL
18k, Thats it? Cmon people, subscribe to this man! Insane amount of work and detail in every video. Keep it up
The fact that her deflect isn't guaranteed is ridiculous.
It isn't. You can do 56 damage with the *Slip Through* feat.
Feats should be balanced AFTER duels.
Ye! It’s already pretty rare to successfully deflect a fast light , then nothing is guaranteed...
It's not ridiculous. It does the same damage ad Highlanger's top heavy and his unblockable heavies. Makes sense it wouldn't be guaranteed all the time.
@@ashhalcyon same as valks pin but that's guarenteed.
Deflecting requires skill, skill should be rewarded.
Fantastic. I was looking forward to this, and you didn't disappoint. Thanks! And it's good to hear that there are other Nuxias out there who are trying to take full advantage of her abilities.
would it kill them just to make the deflect unblockable? I mean really.
Dexter Barlow-Busch I understand why they did this, this is one of the most high damages deflects in the game besides orochis heavy deflect, but it’s basically guaranteed unless ur unlucky or going against a nobushi
Then low down the damage. You're basically taking a risk with no reward when deflects ARE suppose to be risk = reward since it requires you to dodge into an attack with a tighter timing than a parry.
@@asiv90 *cough* shinobi gets 50 guaranteed *cough*
I mean all they have to do is make it unblockable and reduce the damage by 5 to make it the same as a orochi light deflect
@@PrinceYasuke no he doesn't he gets 35 guaranteed. The 50 one is dodgeable and you can punish it with a GB.
Do you consider shugoki's neutral heavies costing more stamina as an "undocumented change"? It is actually in the patch note, but not really explicit.
His neutral heavies now cost 33 on hit, while 21 before. This is due to an increase in the additional flat cost applied to all neutral heavies of shugoki : it used to be 9, it is now 21 of additional cost (cf the shugoki column on the FH values spreadsheet for a better understanding). I don't know if you wanna talk about this in details though since you'd probably need to explain the details.
However, it's worth noticing that Goki's neutral heavies used to let you down to 93 if parried, now it's 105. You can't do (heavy feint into heavy) anymore for example.
I was wondering why I felt so weak in my mixups. I couldn't do anything without becoming oos
It's real fucked up what they're doing to our thicc boi tbh
@@HaircombMan Ikr
I would very much like a video on this.
if they know shugo is weak, and everyone is asking for a rework, why they still with this "micro" nerfs on shugo? i can´t understand
I believe that shinobi's backflip may have been changed with marching fire. Previously backflips kept your camera at the same angle, but now it forces your camera to be parallel with the ground. However, I'm not sure if this means that any of its properties have been changed. (Being able to actually dodge attacks instead of them tracking you through the entire backflip for instance.)
Please devs, make her chain heavies undodgeable!
deflect reminds me of aramushas top heavy blockade
Hey freeze I found another OOS throw punish. Forward throw-whiffed light twice-heavy finisher to directions not guarding. If enemy is still exhausted, heavy finisher throws the enemy, guarantees another whiffed light-heavy(If heavy finisher was a top direction, continue to light finisher. It is guaranteed, but I’m not tested it is safe.)
We tested it and the heavy can be blocked.
Thought it is guaranteed when I test with bot with only a guard and parry action. Thanks for reply.
@@joshuachoi21 Bots usually eat attacks that a normal player will not. Biggest example is a top heavy off a light parry with Raider. Raider doesn't get that in game. So Bots will reluctantly not block deliberately attacks they can block sometimes. Still if it lands is an insane punish but is not guaranteed.
Watched a three minute ad just to support freeze getting paid for his great content. Keep it up bro
What about her revenge activation punish? Or her oos or in revenge heavy finisher punish since she drops characters to the floor in that state
Alright so I have seen this thing Nuxia players sometimes do on a gb, they will throw their zone and you will think it's a failed heavy and try for a parry or block, but then they trap you for 45 big boi dmg. Obviously not guarenteed but it just might be worth mentioning for the chance of pretty high damage off a gb.
... *Writes down*
*waits for tomorrow....* Madlad
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I've noticed hitbox changes. Example: shinobi's heavies are much shorter making hitting opponites you're not locked on but you're locked on to a different opponent either extremely rare or impossible unless their directly in front of the move. Nuxia also seems to have corrected hitboxes
Dem is good guy
I just bought the game and glad I have found freeze already cause it would be a lot harder without
I'm glad I can help.
feel free to join the discord and ask questions there. People usually are helpful... and if not I'll light a fire under their ass ;)
"I didn't think she'd be so popular"
Yeah cause light spamming heroes are just so uncommon.
Tiandiiiii
Instead of people bitching in the comments about her deflect not being guaranteed, take into consideration that you can dish out 56 damage with it with the *Slip Through* feat when it lands.
She’s cool and I like the traps and stuff but in reality she’s very easy and predictable to play against on console anyway.
Wow 40 damage for a deflect. Thats the highest light deflect damage.
If you can land it LOL
What about Shinobi?
another oos throw punish is a side throw, light, zone feint, zone into trap. 57 damage but you must have full stamina.
Please do TianDi Next :D
I suspect it might take a while to fully discover max punishes with his kicks.
I've been experimenting with bots in the training mode. I'd tick the option of "block all attacks"
If the kick is a wallsplat, you can do a dodge heavy forward which would be blocked, but the following chain light would not be blocked.
However, i just suspect that the bot was not able to block fast enough.
you can now do a zone on light parry but you have to buffer it so you don't do the heavy punish light attack
These aren't undocumented change but rather bugs.
Zerks execution move it along has an animation bug at the end, his axe sticks out of his wrist.
Highlanders execution fatal toss replays the sounds of the execution after completing the execution (when you can start attacking again)
I belive zerks new armour sets the criss cross patterns on his pants are meant to change colour based on your colour set, for me they are always white (I think this is a bug)
@freeze if you are going to do the Tiandi parry& gb punishes, be aware that his punishes are quite... different. Especially on the oos punishes. Let me know if you want to know some before you spend like 40mins testing it like I did lol.
Please do jiang jung he had so many different punishes with walls and out of stamina if you use kick and the wall
Why does she have a weird animation when she goes into revenge lol
Hey can you do tiandi next please? Also love your vids they are so useful
One time i light parried a warden, threw a zone and trapped it and got that mean 45 damage ground slam
Not a confirmed punish though, so it wouldn’t be mentioned.
Sometimes on oos throw Ill do heavy into heavy trap. Its usually good once per opponent.
Thanks Freeze
I’m bout to main tf outta this assassin
Is Jiang juns zone after choke a bug?
So for the deflect animation it shows it “from the top” but you can switch guard like any attack?
2 months later... Don't forget an opponent oos throwed against a wall : the first light connects. To deal 13 + 35 + 11 = 59 dmg
Do tiandi next please ^^
I don't know if it's just me, but side deflects feel easier now. Maybe they fixed the dodge frames taking priority over the deflect frames?
Just yesterday I was joking about swift recoil. Well, now I just feel silly. Top-tier move confirmed.
STOP PLAYING TOP TIER CHARACTERS!!! :P
Lord Dem it’s really sad that garbage players like Alernapkin have to rely on crutches like this. Ooooo, you made GM abusing Nobushi, so impressive. !kotaku
Meh is just a game. And most in the GM just abuse the most unreactable safe mechanics to get there. That's my opinion anyway.
Lord Dem I was just joking lol, but true.
Oh I wasnt talking about Alern I was making a general comment for the GM ranking
Man its such a pain to learn to switch your guard when she is attacking with a trap :P
She is a cool character though, but for some reason I have little to no issues taking her on with Conq. While Conq vs the other 3 is really difficult.
Maybe cuz shaolin can light attack you out of bash with his top light, and tiandi can use undodgables and feintable dodges. However the only way I can see JJ work is if he sifus when u bash and then he zones. But at the same time that could be risky for he can get GB:d
Wardens fully Charged Shoulder Bash seems like you need to doged much later now
Yeah new bug on warden SB. If done against another SB the warden who does it last wins.
Like for example i charge up level 3 SB, opponent charges level 2 SB. I end up going through him and he hits me with his sb and i get light attacked.
Sometimes if same level SB you two will just go through each other and have a sb hit animation.
Before the bug, it always has been whoever charges the longest would win.
Isn't that just down to Warden having HA on the bash, so your opponent throws later, his HA soaks up your bash and you eat his because your HA is down because your bash connected?
Paul Hardy
Fairly certain only fully charged SB has hyper armor.
Also, that hyper armor doesn’t eat everything. Some bashes will still go through and interrupt. This is true for all hyper armor except Shugoki and Revenge
With bazerker I only deflect on the first or second heavy after that it’s not worth it
Do JJ plz
How come you didn't do revenge punishes or if the opponent is unlocked like in the Shaolin video?
good question... I dunno... we usually ask at the end "do we have everything?"
Guess we really blanked this time round. Sorry
The revenge still is light heavy light
The out of lock is just a light followup on heavies. Not very exciting.
semeM
Is the timing tight on swapping the direction of the deflect attack? I've been trying for 10 minuets now and can't get it to switch.
Just like kensei top heavy soft feint into right or left heavy or light. Just light but in any direction.
Can you explain why shaolin sometimes won't follow up with an attack after a throw or parry?
One thing I’ve noticed that is that the body count feat hardly heals anything. I’ve asked around and checked the latest patch notes but it doesn’t seem to be an actual change?
So anyone else have the bug where jumping down ledges and attempting drop-kills or getting knocked off a ladder by someone coming down makes you phase through the map?
They mentioned something on the devstream there is a big patch coming which fixes a lot of these issues. We need to wait the patch notes the coming week.
Thanks for the info and can you do JJ plz?
Great video,JJ next please
You can also crushing counter nuxia deflect as a shaolin😭
We tried to crushing counter with Warden and we were not able during filming the video. Haven't tried it with Shaolin though but with her deflect not being guaranteed at the moment I wouldn't think is not possible for Shaolin to deflect it.
Yeah shaolin can crushing counter nuxia’s deflect check my channel second newest vid one which title is Nuxia deflect op
So how bout them zerk OOS punishes because forward throw into double heavy doesn't work anymore anyone know any new punishes
I'll cover it in the next video, for now just do dash light, heavy into light
Is it just me or does Nuxia’s light-riposte just refuse to work half of the time?
You need to treat her light riposte like Warlords ShieldParryCounter meaning it has to be inputted immediately during parry otherwise not wait until the parry is finished otherwise she will do a normal light.
Lord Dem Thanks for the explanation btw but is still seems so inconsistent, sometimes when I input the light during the parry animation she just stands there doing nothing, but I guess I just need to get used to it
Lord Dem Keep up the streams too bro, I’ve never watched your streams before but I’m definitely gonna follow you on twitch
I also encounter this problem a lot, just spam r1 at the earliest point possible so that even if your special counter doesn't work you at least get a light out of it. It's not the best, but at least you get a light instead of nothing.
Yeah I think they should be a bit more lenient with the light riposte window. LB for example has quite a lenient window for the light riposte on any parry which seems to not be the same with Nuxia.
Do the Tiandi,doc.
It does 40 dmg so I think it's ok for it to be blockable.
Plz! Somebody tell me, how is Nuxia pronounced? (Nuke-see-a) or
(New-she-a)?
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freeze thank you!
Wait.. One of her chains can throw you? The fuck?
On console they pretty much spam lights 99% of the time.
Did anyone else see the nobushi jump after the deflect follow up from her side heavy? 😂
Thats specific to Nobushi is her retreat she can actually follow up with a cobra strike with that move
Who better tiandi Jiang jun
Im sure shes popular with all the low tier console players lol
Raider heavy on GB and top heavy on light parry when? :c
That would be completely broken lol.
F L naah, not that much
5 more damage on light parry isnt that much, and if ubi lets raider have an heavy out of a gb they would reduce the damage like with kensei
@@chrisheaven9975 kenseis dmg isnt reduced in a GB. The reason its weaker is because its his second heavy in a chain. And honestly I think this would be a great buff for raider if GBs and throws count as chain starters. He could get a side heavy on GB for 35 dmg or he could throw them and do a finisher side or top heavy when they hit a wall (not knee normal wallsplat). Maybe they could even do so after a throw you can instantly raider fury like how kensei can throw people into walls and then do the unblockable.
@@azkhoyo731 That would be completely broken as a chained zone is 50 damage and is guaranteed from gb and charge
@@cranberry5548 Nono the charge doesnt count as a chain only normal throws. Basically it would be his wallsplat punish and thats it not the knee thing
Why can't they just make her deflect unlockable?
Project ELIX I believe that their goal was for Nuxia to have a nothing guaranteed, but have things that have a chance to. Some people on PC can reliably react to 400ms lights, and a lot can react to traps. Her deflects are also like her lights and traps, they aren't guaranteed either, but you can still change the direction so it's not complete garbage
Actually when I mentioned it to the dev stream a couple of weeks ago when it was released they asked for footage because deflect is supposed to be guaranteed
DO JJ NEXT
Good luck trying to even throw anybody with the heavy finisher. Useless in field imo. But what can I say. I’m a duelist.
Teq Chiinky lol I almost solely play duels and I land it on masters/grandmasters more often then you think (currently only a diamond V cuz haven’t had as much time to play this update x.x).. However, I do believe once people learn how to fight her it’ll become a rare occasion. But hey if people are parry happy I’ll just keep giving em ye old hook
I only play her in duels and surprisingly it works more than you'd expect. Usually you can do a side dodge attack, light, heavy which becomes a 50/50 trap. It really isn't hard to get to that third attack especially considering her fast lights.
hes german, Right?
yes
Eh all the new characters are insanely boring and highly predictable the only one fun to play or play against is jiang jun