@@4124V4TA-SNPCA-x you're right, honey is indeed for bees. And if you have to refine cow's milk for it to be somewhat "healthy", you might as well leave it to the baby that actually needs it and digest it unrefined for growth since milk is literally created for the baby, either way that's theft and weird to suckle on other species milk
@@4124V4TA-SNPCA-x "flaxseed is for baby flax." are you okay? genuinely, I am worried about your cognitive health. Signs of mental decline can be seen even in your 50s and will quickly become an acute problem where there is no going back.
Cheese is way worse than milk, its about dairy fat. The more dairy fat the more hormones, as hormones are fat soluble. Butter has 14x the estrogen content of dairy milk.
@@Nobody-Nowhere Yet there are hundreds of studies that found positive effects of cheese consumption. People who eat cheese are happier, healthier for example. Less risk for Alzheimer's, good for the microbiome, good source of vitamins and minerals... Every coin has two sides. You don't eat fat. You eat cheese, a super complex thing fermented multiple times, eaten in a very complex food matrix, usually along with other foodstuff. I'm talking about real cheese, of course.
@@Nobody-Nowhere the question was about different kinds of fermented dairy products. You have answered butter that no one asked about. Right. Your answer was like: bananas are bad for you because in the middle ages disease outbreaks were caused by grains...
@@4124V4TA-SNPCA-x Hundreds of *industry-funded studies that more often than not are dishonest. For example, Dr Greger broke down the famous study about cheese / saturated fat being good for your health: they went to developing countries where being able to buy things like cheese meant you have more money. Turns out, the damage done from some occasional cheese is less than the damage to our bodies from the stress of being impoverished in a developing country. The candy industry did the same thing to 'prove' that children who occasionally have candy are 'healthier'. It's not just about 'studies' or about headlines that back up your biases. It's about reading how the study was setup and analyzed. Industry-funded does not always mean it's going to be a dishonest study, but starting off with a conflict of interest often leads to finding the results your employer wants to find.
Is this American milk only, or worldwide milk? From what I recall American farmers are allowed to routinely give hormones to their animals. This is not allowed in other countries.
These are natural hormones; the cows are pregnant constantly and the milk from pregnant cows is mixed with milk from non-pregnant cows. So the hormone levels of the cows are constantly extremely high.
If it's from a commercial producer who milks pregnant cows: 'Cows are often milked until 60 d before their next expected calving. Milk from cows in the third trimester of pregnancy contains up to 20 times more estrogens than milk from nonpregnant cows.' -Journal of Dairy Science No added hormones; these are purely from pregnancy.
1:18 A plain Greek yogurt does not have more sugar than a double chocolate glazed cake donut. The plain Greek yogurt is 5 grams sugar and the donut is 19 grams sugar.
Edit-he did say 'plain', I stopped the replay too soon, thanks for the correction! He never used the word 'plain'. Showing an image of plain yogurt was a poor choice but that's the work of the video editor, not Dr. Greger. A cup of Chobani Vanilla has 21g of sugar. The transcript doesn't use the word 'plain' so that was my error.
@@dianeladico1769 He said at 1:22 the word plain and the photo is of Chobani plain Greek yogurt container. The Chobani Greek vanilla yogurt is 14 grams of sugar for the container not by ounces. The donut is by item not by ounces.
@@dianeladico1769 Just as @beepbeepnj2658 said. Image and narration both referred to the wrong item. It was intentional. We know what this means, aren't we?
Considering the fact that northern (Germanic) tribes were drinking milk and eating dairy products for thousands of years with no discernable negative impact on population growth, I'm guessing that current studies indicating these results were based on intake of commercialized, processed dairy products. There is a HUGE difference between dairy products from a chain grocery store coming from dairy conglomerates and raw dairy products purchased from a local family-owned dairy which more closely resembles raw dairy products of the past.
Their lives were much more different and generally speaking healthier in terms of exercise and caloric restriction to cause a major issues to fertility, hormones are hormones and they do exist in "organic" milk and are harmful as well. you aren't doing yourself any favours with this return to the old ways type of ideal with animal products, they still aren't healthy but harmful, just less harmful than dairy industry products. Its kind of like comparing beer and vodka, Beer has less alcohol and some nutritional profile to it but it isn't healthy.
@@oskariKN25 If you read my other comments under this video you'll see I'm not a 'back to the old days' kinda person. And that's also impossible anyways. But I'm not op OFC.
All dairy aren't created equal. There is more variety within single types of dairies like under the label of cheese or yoghurt than all whole plant foodstuff combined... Milk consumption started at an unknown time in Eurasia, 25-11 thousands of years ago. Not that novel. We eat more novel things every day. Not to mention that we consume milk of several different mammalian species, severeal hundreds of breeds within all species, all over the world, under different conditions. What milk? From where? Prepared how? Big farm US processed cow dairy called "milk" and organic raw camel milk are night and day; for example. Organic cheese made from that? Etc. etc. I don't deny the problem. Just saying. But I won't write any more as you delete comments left and right.
@@dianeladico1769 Less recent than most we eat. When do you think we started to eat banana or avocado or broccoli? You wouldn't recognize cruciferous vegetables 2000 years ago let alone 11000. Dozens of vegetables has a single ancestor you wouldn't recognize. Cows were pretty much cows 11.000 years ago let alone 2000 years ago when several of today's domestic bovine, goat, camel, sheep breeds have already existed and used. You wouldn't recognize bread from 11.000 years ago. Even though we have started eating bread way before that. But that could be only very loosely considered bread. Wine and beer is younger than milk. Etc. etc. Let alone modern industrially produced foodstuff in an environmentally over polluted Earth. THIS was my point that you have missed. Also while we have diverged from Pan ~6mya and 'human' is counted from that, I agree, how similar are you to Australopithecus? Or earlier species? All in different genuses and researchers talking about them the same way as any other animals. FYI researchers tried and failed to survive on wild fruits. We are incapable for that. Look it up if you don't believe me. During those six million years we became omnivores from frugivores. And even other apes and monkeys in general eat meat in admittedly very little amounts with some rare exceptions. We are here because our ancestors became omnivores, then efficient hunters. Then we use fire from 1.3mya at least; fire and agriculture and more complex societal structures in our culture made us much softer and different. Look at our guts vs guts of other apes... Or denture... Or skeleton... Or thousands of other differences.
@@dianeladico1769 But come on, go out to the wild, live naked and fireless and mostly toolless. Eating opportunistically whatever you find, mostly original ancient wild plants and bugs. Sometimes a rare carcass a predator left. And live mostly on the trees afraid of big cats and predatory birds. Live for your teens full of sickness and endoparasites. Then tell me after 1 year how did it go. Oh yeah, you couldn't because you wouldn't live that long and couldn't speak at all in any language comparable to later human languages. Prove me you can live like our ancestors did 6-5mya!!! Or don't utter nonsense...
Romans 3:23-28 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
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Cow's milk is for baby cows.
Flaxseed is for baby flax.
Honey is for bees.
Your point?
@@4124V4TA-SNPCA-x you're right, honey is indeed for bees. And if you have to refine cow's milk for it to be somewhat "healthy", you might as well leave it to the baby that actually needs it and digest it unrefined for growth since milk is literally created for the baby, either way that's theft and weird to suckle on other species milk
@@4124V4TA-SNPCA-xinsanely dumb comment
Yep. Facts
@@4124V4TA-SNPCA-x "flaxseed is for baby flax." are you okay? genuinely, I am worried about your cognitive health. Signs of mental decline can be seen even in your 50s and will quickly become an acute problem where there is no going back.
Thank you so much
What a story with animal consumption. Certainly says something from all the errors
Is it just milk or also cheese and yoghurt?
Cheese is way worse than milk, its about dairy fat. The more dairy fat the more hormones, as hormones are fat soluble. Butter has 14x the estrogen content of dairy milk.
@@Nobody-Nowhere
Yet there are hundreds of studies that found positive effects of cheese consumption. People who eat cheese are happier, healthier for example. Less risk for Alzheimer's, good for the microbiome, good source of vitamins and minerals...
Every coin has two sides.
You don't eat fat. You eat cheese, a super complex thing fermented multiple times, eaten in a very complex food matrix, usually along with other foodstuff. I'm talking about real cheese, of course.
@@Nobody-Nowhere 😲
@@Nobody-Nowhere the question was about different kinds of fermented dairy products. You have answered butter that no one asked about. Right.
Your answer was like: bananas are bad for you because in the middle ages disease outbreaks were caused by grains...
@@4124V4TA-SNPCA-x Hundreds of *industry-funded studies that more often than not are dishonest. For example, Dr Greger broke down the famous study about cheese / saturated fat being good for your health: they went to developing countries where being able to buy things like cheese meant you have more money.
Turns out, the damage done from some occasional cheese is less than the damage to our bodies from the stress of being impoverished in a developing country.
The candy industry did the same thing to 'prove' that children who occasionally have candy are 'healthier'.
It's not just about 'studies' or about headlines that back up your biases. It's about reading how the study was setup and analyzed. Industry-funded does not always mean it's going to be a dishonest study, but starting off with a conflict of interest often leads to finding the results your employer wants to find.
Dr. G is the OG. Don't try to deny it.
Is this American milk only, or worldwide milk? From what I recall American farmers are allowed to routinely give hormones to their animals. This is not allowed in other countries.
It's not allowed, but many of them still do it, right? Although, it would take much longer for the cows to reach the required productivity.
These are natural hormones; the cows are pregnant constantly and the milk from pregnant cows is mixed with milk from non-pregnant cows. So the hormone levels of the cows are constantly extremely high.
@@Nobody-Nowhere Aha, OK. Thanks for the reply.
@@voaneves Not unless they want their milk poured down the drain and don't get paid, no. Milk is routinely tested.
If it's from a commercial producer who milks pregnant cows: 'Cows are often milked until 60 d before their next expected calving. Milk from cows in the third trimester of pregnancy contains up to 20 times more estrogens than milk from nonpregnant cows.' -Journal of Dairy Science
No added hormones; these are purely from pregnancy.
1:18 A plain Greek yogurt does not have more sugar than a double chocolate glazed cake donut. The plain Greek yogurt is 5 grams sugar and the donut is 19 grams sugar.
Exactly. The Greek yoghurt I most often consume has 3.9% sugar content, all natural. Fruits have more sugar than this...
Edit-he did say 'plain', I stopped the replay too soon, thanks for the correction!
He never used the word 'plain'. Showing an image of plain yogurt was a poor choice but that's the work of the video editor, not Dr. Greger. A cup of Chobani Vanilla has 21g of sugar.
The transcript doesn't use the word 'plain' so that was my error.
@@dianeladico1769 He said at 1:22 the word plain and the photo is of Chobani plain Greek yogurt container. The Chobani Greek vanilla yogurt is 14 grams of sugar for the container not by ounces. The donut is by item not by ounces.
@@dianeladico1769
Just as @beepbeepnj2658 said. Image and narration both referred to the wrong item.
It was intentional.
We know what this means, aren't we?
@@beepbeepnj2658 My mistake, I stopped the replay too soon. The data I looked up was per cup so the math works.
Wow, comments are nasty!
Considering the fact that northern (Germanic) tribes were drinking milk and eating dairy products for thousands of years with no discernable negative impact on population growth, I'm guessing that current studies indicating these results were based on intake of commercialized, processed dairy products. There is a HUGE difference between dairy products from a chain grocery store coming from dairy conglomerates and raw dairy products purchased from a local family-owned dairy which more closely resembles raw dairy products of the past.
@@asdisskagen6487
And there are so many other confounders.
Their lives were much more different and generally speaking healthier in terms of exercise and caloric restriction to cause a major issues to fertility, hormones are hormones and they do exist in "organic" milk and are harmful as well. you aren't doing yourself any favours with this return to the old ways type of ideal with animal products, they still aren't healthy but harmful, just less harmful than dairy industry products. Its kind of like comparing beer and vodka, Beer has less alcohol and some nutritional profile to it but it isn't healthy.
@@asdisskagen6487 source to this study please?
@@oskariKN25 If you read my other comments under this video you'll see I'm not a 'back to the old days' kinda person. And that's also impossible anyways.
But I'm not op OFC.
@@oskariKN25 Also the deception and twisting of facts is strong in this short video.
All dairy aren't created equal. There is more variety within single types of dairies like under the label of cheese or yoghurt than all whole plant foodstuff combined...
Milk consumption started at an unknown time in Eurasia, 25-11 thousands of years ago. Not that novel. We eat more novel things every day.
Not to mention that we consume milk of several different mammalian species, severeal hundreds of breeds within all species, all over the world, under different conditions.
What milk? From where? Prepared how? Big farm US processed cow dairy called "milk" and organic raw camel milk are night and day; for example. Organic cheese made from that? Etc. etc.
I don't deny the problem.
Just saying.
But I won't write any more as you delete comments left and right.
Humans have been evolving for six million years. A few thousand is pretty recent.
@@dianeladico1769 Less recent than most we eat.
When do you think we started to eat banana or avocado or broccoli? You wouldn't recognize cruciferous vegetables 2000 years ago let alone 11000. Dozens of vegetables has a single ancestor you wouldn't recognize. Cows were pretty much cows 11.000 years ago let alone 2000 years ago when several of today's domestic bovine, goat, camel, sheep breeds have already existed and used.
You wouldn't recognize bread from 11.000 years ago. Even though we have started eating bread way before that. But that could be only very loosely considered bread. Wine and beer is younger than milk. Etc. etc.
Let alone modern industrially produced foodstuff in an environmentally over polluted Earth.
THIS was my point that you have missed.
Also while we have diverged from Pan ~6mya and 'human' is counted from that, I agree, how similar are you to Australopithecus? Or earlier species? All in different genuses and researchers talking about them the same way as any other animals.
FYI researchers tried and failed to survive on wild fruits. We are incapable for that. Look it up if you don't believe me. During those six million years we became omnivores from frugivores. And even other apes and monkeys in general eat meat in admittedly very little amounts with some rare exceptions.
We are here because our ancestors became omnivores, then efficient hunters. Then we use fire from 1.3mya at least; fire and agriculture and more complex societal structures in our culture made us much softer and different. Look at our guts vs guts of other apes... Or denture... Or skeleton... Or thousands of other differences.
@@dianeladico1769
But come on, go out to the wild, live naked and fireless and mostly toolless. Eating opportunistically whatever you find, mostly original ancient wild plants and bugs. Sometimes a rare carcass a predator left. And live mostly on the trees afraid of big cats and predatory birds. Live for your teens full of sickness and endoparasites.
Then tell me after 1 year how did it go.
Oh yeah, you couldn't because you wouldn't live that long and couldn't speak at all in any language comparable to later human languages.
Prove me you can live like our ancestors did 6-5mya!!!
Or don't utter nonsense...
Yeah, raw organic milk had highest estrogen levels of all milks. But overall, the estrogen levels were quite same.
@@dianeladico1769
Tldr my point wasn't that he was wrong. But that's the worse argument for it.
Try not to be sheeple.
Romans 3:23-28
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.