Response to Greg "Google It!" Doucette...
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- I'm not here to make friends, get subs, get views or get money. I already live comfortably as a coach.
I'm here for the truth, and I guess he couldn't handle that.
No pictures in a 200 dollars training book? Google it, harder than last time!
Just a video clearing things up. Ultimately, my original video on his book was extremely fair, and his response was not honest, shaping a narrative that made me look like the bad guy.
An honest review made in good faith that is not ass-kissing doesn't really deserve a deceptive, misinformed response.
I bought his book when I didn't need to, as I already had a free copy.
They didn't even SEND me the product, which I didn't mention out of respect for him.
I didn't even refund my money even though no product was sent.
My FAQ is one page. Not 15 as he claimed.
It's selling well, and as 4.9/5.0 stars.
I said that I was a fan of his content.
I said that people can buy the book if they want to say thank you.
My criticisms were fair-a lack of pictures or descriptions in a 200 dollars ebook IS lazy. Not calling HIM lazy. Just the effort on this ebook. It's a BOOK ASSESSMENT not a personal assessment.
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In hindsight, 8 dollars was absurdly cheap, so I increased it. I am very confident in saying it's still an excellent value for the money.
Makes perfect sense.
As for Greg's book, 200 bucks is clearly too much. I mean, a fraction of a second glance at the price tag and one should immediately be able to conclude that that's "too much" - in a sense. There should be ABSOLUTELY ZEEEROO! doubts about it.
I'm not saying it doesn't contain good advice (I bet it does), but any kind of information in an ebook can carry you only so far, and in all likelihood not far enough for $200; lack of pictures in it - especially considering that it's stated to be mainly targeted at beginners - only aggravates the issue, to the point of (almost?) showing lack of care/respect towards customers. He definitely slipped there.
Point is, at some point people are no longer buying information about weightlifting, they're buying Greg Doucette.
Nothing strange here, and that price makes probably perfect sense from a profit-maximization standpoint.
Is there anything inherently wrong in buying it? Nope. Am I going to buy it? Not by a long shot (IT DOESN'T MATTER!!! STINGY GUYS LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN ALREADY FACTORED-IN WHILE PRICING THE BOOK!!! - I know, I know).
I'm providing lots of views to Greg's channel (both to educational and fun stuff), I'm still a fan and I might be inclined to support him, just not by paying that amount of money for an ebook.
He recently did the same thing with alpha destiny where he clearly misrepresented his points and cherry picked on the video. I think you did an absolutely phenomenal job in reviewing his book and did not su*k upto him which has become a common trend in youtube fitness after Greg had gone viral. For someone who criticizes others,Greg can't take criticism himself. I'm sorry for all the backlash you received from Greg fanboys but you have my full support going forward.
I am shocked that there are no pictures in his book omg. Who does that???? 🤪
a trick : watch movies on Flixzone. I've been using it for watching lots of of movies recently.
@Easton Colten Yea, I've been using flixzone} for since november myself =)
Ironically, Those people insulting your physique and calling you a "DYEL", are probably the same type of guys who would compliment you and ask for your advice if they seen you at a the gym IRL.
Hope you continue to get more subscribers, you definitely deserve it.
They themselves look like cosmic strings and they project their smallness on him
Yeah, wtf? It's baffling seeing how stupid ppl will allow themselves to act. They were really trying to call a 6ft, 200lb guy small. He prob weighs at least 30lbs more than them.
But I'm glad Geoff's starting to become a bigger channel and approaching 100K. Greg's a narc. He has that same superficial charm ppl are drawn to. They never go for a more grounded guy like Geoff, who actually gives them results. Ppl are so stupid...
I’m a fan of Greg’s, but I’m slowly starting to get annoyed by him. I used to watch every one of his videos, but now it’s just become too much drama and every single person that tries to review or criticize him, he immediately makes a video about them.
I agree, he is too sensitive
Also he keeps repeating the same thing and half of his video is always advertising his books and talking about how great his books and genetics are. Watching his videos is a waste of time now honestly. The time that you spend watching his videos now would be better spen in actually learning something new and you'd learn 10x more in the same amount of time. The only reason why you'd like to watch his videos now is if you find them entertaining or if you are fooling yourself with the illusion that you're actually learning something from watching him.
I neither find him entertaining anymore nor do I think he has any more informational videos to offer.
Same here man the old Greg was better. He’s putting videos so fast not doing enough research. I stopped watching his videos too dramatic. He’s caught up in views
ME TOO....I PAID HIM FOR SOME COACHING HE WAS HONESTLY KOOL TO SPEAK WITH ON THE PHONE BUT HIS ADVICE AND "KNOWLEDGE" WAS ALL ABOUT JUICE TRAINING AND DIETING...He is funny and the clown of you tube fitness thats all..very little real world natural knowledge here
Absolutely
With greg its like:
Man, this guy is annoying, not watching him anymore😤
Then, more videos come
Ahh he is not that bad, he is actually emtertaining🙂
Even more videos
Wow, this guy is actually pretty cool, he is a hardworker, and he knows a lot of stuff😃😃😃
You subscribe
You start to understand all the drama behind the videos, amd the way he actually grows his channel😡😡😶😶
In the end , you unsubscibe😅😅
For $200, the book needs to be THE textbook of training.
For $200, the customer service needs to excellent.
For $200, they need to actually send you the book.
Instead, for $200 he expects you to "Google the exercises yourself!" 🤨
If u like books The encyclopedia of bodybuilding is a fraction of the cost and has much better info
College textbooks have a ton a pics tho.
I'm late to the party but I always assumed Greg Douchette's book was a real, hardback book. I'm fucking shocked it's an e-book for 200 dollars lmao
People you attract to your channel assert opinions respectfully. They also respect facts and truth. What a great group. Your comment section is well worth reading. People are here helping each other because of the tone you set. Keep taking the High Road, you're doing a great job!
After watchin his overlydefensive, reaction it's clear to me that his books are just a cashgrab. Unless you are writting about nuclear physics, a 200 dollar book should be a complete handbook of the topic.
Keep up the good work Geoff.
of course its a cashgrab... just did a quick google search... Ronnie Coleman has a training book for $100.00, Arnold has one for $40.00, Jay Cutler has one for $40.00... like seriously, wtf is Greg Doucette? why in the world would somebody buy Greg "not a Mr Olympia" Doucette's training book for a price double that of the other ones listed?
Honestly, Greg's training book is simply not good enough. For 200 Dollars, I expected something absolutely amazing, but it was much less detailed than programs I am used to. And btw, since when is being your book complex a bad thing? I mean lifting and human body in general is a very complex thing, you should not oversimplify it.
Honestly, I am not even sure what's wrong with Greg. Used to love him, but in the last couple of months, he does many things that make me dislike him and at this point, its obvious he is just playing a character in his videos and is overdoing it
I gotta admit, gregs response was not a good look at all in my view. You were extremely fair and he had some good rebuttals but the overall tone was off. I love the doc but he should take his own advice and recognize when someone is also saying positive things instead of being defensive against constructive criticism.
So Lets be honest, he tryed to sell his own book by criticing Gregs book. His book might be great, but this is dishonest as f.
@@CafeCoda dude greg tries to advertise his books every chance he gets
@@snooopybud4034 his book on his channel, he’s not Hiding an advertisment of his own shitty book un a critic of Some one else his/ her book. This to me are cheap tactics and dishonest, think he’s a twat.
@@CafeCoda who makes a workout book without pictures?
Sorry this happened, Geoff. Your critique was fair, and actually pretty positive, considering price and lack of illustrations in Greg's book. I know Greg has to make a buck, so felt he needed to defend himself, but he came off petty and vindictive.
I got your book, by the by, and have found it very helpful. It is what finally got me into face pulls, so thank you :)!
"Google it!" is a complete cop-out, especially in a book that is supposed to be for beginners. Yeah, there's a lot a free training advice out there but the quality of it varies greatly, to put it mildly. To expect a beginner to be able to figure this out on her own is absurd.
I still have trouble believing he actually said that. Horrible look for him.
@Geoffrey Verity Schofield would made his book much better when at the end you could read: for more and better information go on renaissance periodization ! (for example), or: watch the content of schofield (for giving you some credit for your good work, too 😉)
I find it hypocritical of Coach Greg of suggesting you were using his book to just sell your own. The doctor casually mentions his cookbook all the time when reviewing other people.
Its too bad Greg went in the direction he did. His old, real voice, no screaming videos were much more informative and fair. But they didnt generate the views.
Agreed man
I unsubscribed him when he took that route of going after other fitness youtubers.
Can’t stand his new drama content. He used to make legit educational videos and now it’s just stupid screaming drama.
These channels like Greg's get big and after a year or two the channel goes dead. Happens over and over. Especially seeing his fans are prob 16-25 year Olds tops. Who can only be interested in his ranting for so long
@@joshmuz9018 His problem is that his fans will age out as they reach adulthood. He will probably just plateau at a certain number unless people forget to unsub.
I'm a big fan of Gregs but I do like your criticism. He's acting like athlean x after his channel got big.
Even athlean x programs are like 97 dollars , and in those training programs there are videos of him demonstrating the exercise, and greg got butthurt that someone said his book is overpriced and he went after athlean x like he killed someone making fun of him everyday for no reason
Well hes been making videos for 10 years and he exploded within a year, so yea how you gonna blame him for "not being humble"? My ego would shoot up too if I were to suddenly get famous and thousands of people are backing me
Athleanx has not changed a thing about how he presents his stuff in his videos what are you talking about.
@@Rippinkitten18 did I say Jeff change at all?
If you are a BIG FAN OF GREGS it tells me you just love the comedy the drama...thats all
Don't like the double standard people have, when Greg talks about other people's training, diet, steroid its OK but someone else does it, then its clout chasing, irritates me
I am also disappointed the way he dealt with criticism, and if he lies by omission in one case I don't know how many other times he may have done so.
In his own words "if you lie about one thing you are more likely to lie about other things"
I m now going to be more alert on what I hear from him
Yeah Fame can do some damage, he is thinking he can get away with it since Geoffrey “only has 10k” subs and his new followers are cult like and ask no questions.....
@@gamesong6600 he does tons of lies of omission he knows his followers will believe him anyway I give them props they are loyal lol
@@mattc4266 I will keep that in mind in future
It's annoying because Greg even admits he clout chased to build up his viewership. If clout chasing is shitty, then Greg is in the running for biggest piece of shit in the UA-cam fitness world
He did exactly what he hates people doing to him. Reacting to parts of the video instead of the whole thing. He complained about the same thing after some UA-camr chose to react to the bad stuff he had said in the video. Very hypocritical of him.
that's exactly what it was
Greg Doucette is a weirdo. He always irritated me when watching his videos.
The most interesting type of comments in these situations relating to Greg are "you are just using Greg's name and content to ride the coattails and get attention." This is interesting not only because it's the same deflection tactic used by Athlean-X worshippers who have no arguments, but Greg himself built his entire channel by reacting to bits and pieces of entire videos by other people. Too many examples to name, but when Jeff Nippard made his how to Powerbuild video for example, all Greg did was restate what Jeff says for the most part while stating what he disagrees in some parts, but mostly it was him uploading someone else's work. And these pseudointellectual Dunning Kruger poster hypocrites want to use the "vIeWs" card.
Guess police who arrest drug dealers committing huge crimes are just doing it for "glory" and they're 'jealous' of all the attention the criminals get and all the news reporting agencies criticizing controversial decisions from politicians are just 'jealous' of the power they hold.
It's as if trying to educate people even if it's with your persona viewpoints on a matter is just not possible.
It's a cult. Ironically, today's planned video before I woke up to a billion DMs was going to be, I shit you not, "Top 5 fitness cults on UA-cam".
I totally agree
@@GVS please make that video, athlean X, Greg Doucette´s and Every damn day fitness´ must be up there
@@jmca_power Oh I didn't think of EDDF. I don't follow him much. Was thinking AX, GD, Hummy, Fit Tuber, "fake naturals" and IFBB pros. But open to suggestions.
@@GVS is hummy Ryan huminstien?
My guy made it at last!!! Been following u since the beginning mate, great to see u getting the recognition u deserve
Fame got to Greg, kind of dishonest review of your review.....his fans, especially the new fans are also very cult like and are too emotionally attached to their hero....I like most of Greg’s content but this was cheap.....edit: I can’t spell sometimes....
Compare his recent vids to his older vids .
Sad how money can change a man
His fans are extremely annoying and overly attached to someone who has no clue who they are.
He's kind of becoming the new Jeff Cavalier
He's always been like that. He's just getting comfortable showing who he is
$200 is a joke. Starting Strength is $25. Practical Programming is $20. Even the Westside Barbell Book of Methods is still just $50. Terrible price for the value.
Bro libgen and all of are free haha
I was subscribed to Greg till recently. But after seeing his last video on Jeff Nippard's video and then watching his video on your review, I decided to unsubscribe. He's started to believe the myth of Dr. Greg Doucette perpetuated by his own following. Your review was very fair and unbiased. Keep it up.
Having watched both videos, I feel so disappointed at how Greg completely twisted your words and cherrypicking the critical parts to have people hate you. Gonna buy your book instead
Appreciate it!
Man your book is a gem of information. People may talk trash but the genuine readers know the quality of information you provide.🔥💪💪👍👍👍
Happy to help. I've had people talk a LOT of shit today about my book, and none of them have read it. In fact, most said "it's 8 dollars, most be shit!" stuff like that.
Never thought I'd get criticism for UNDERCHARGING!
@@GVS I personally find that your book is good for beginners. People talk hypertrophy shit all the time but if you don't have a decent natural strength to lift heavy ass weights then how can you build muscle( moreover what's the point of building muscle). And that's what I found unique in your book. Basically the whole programming section. 👍👍👍💪💪
Listen to what Chris Jones said of him. I completely agree with him about Greg. I feel like he’s just acting all the time, his voice seems way higher pitch than it used to be, just and actor putting in a façade.
Na chris had a racist rant... don't put him, lobliner and kali muscle (and all the liars and scammers) at the same level as Geoffrey!
Oh, and in a pdf ebook, you CAN put clickable links in them! To unlisted videos (for demonstration purposelor pictures hosted anywhere. 200 for this is pure laziness and a money grab.
Yes he had some links, maybe 15% of the videos did.
But they weren't really demonstrations. The chest press one, for example, was literally him in a video, not at the gym, _pretending_ to chest press 😂🤷♂️😂🤷♂️ I shit you not.
@@GVS wow...so the pdf should be 500 MINIMUM if there are links to videos (sarcasm)!
Greg has no integrity he’s lied about many smaller channels like yours because he knows because their fan base is smaller, they won’t be able to defend themselves. Props to you for standing up to him though hope you win this fight
Don't think it's possible to win, but I definitely won't back down.
Yeah
@@GVS ignore him you are better than him.
@@solrothactor his own youtube video comment section was also mostly in support of me. Have never seen that.
Where is the reddit post?
That video from Greg was one of the weakest videos he has ever made, he doesn't respond well to criticism lately, especially if it is about his cookbook/training book. What's even worse is his "hardcore fans" that will instantly go over and harass the critiques channel. I have been a fan of Greg since forever now, but im getting less and less compelled to watch his videos.
I think maybe he's stressed. But perhaps also just his personality, I doubt he's ever been the type to "take feedback" well, especially as...well...I worded it fairly strongly.
But, I WAS honest about it.
@@GVS idk man he never has gotten overly mad at you for other videos you've done on him I think he needs time away from youtube to refocus himself
Just as I predicted Greg would take it really badly. I remember saying how he's so focussed on money and is willing to skew the truth to make what makes him money look better. Very disappointed in Greg for making all those stupid assumptions but I also expected his review to suck. Was even worse than I thought though.
Yea most of the UA-camrs who do dubious things are financially driven. It's very clear that's his main goal. If it wasn't, why not sell the book for 50 bucks? 20 bucks? Would still do very well, and he wouldn't have to deal with people like me criticizing his blatant greed.
Chasing the Lambo harder than last time
Appreciate the way you're handling this.
No insecure man could have responded the way you did.
And Greg has been losing it, for the past week. And the way you gave the benefit of doubt to him, considering his stress, is again commendable on your part.
Also, GVS Squad now needs a full-on, no holds barred review of Coach Greg's book (the one which you still haven't rec'd).
Thanks...I know I am right and so am very secure in dealing with him and his followers.
@@GVS i was kind of anxious how you would react, but you handled it very well 😁
I dont like the guy,never did,never will.Way too overrated imo and you can like him all you want.Mike Israetel's,Sean's and yours content is 10 times better than just saying train harder without analyzing important aspects.
He claims you can't understand all this sciencey stuff from Isratael and Nippard and the average lifter doesn't need it but never considered the fact that maybe those channels aren't targeted at beginners?? Also their information is very easy to understand and dumbed down for our benefit yet Greg trashes it for being complicated??. Really frustrating how he's against RPE when all the top powerlifters and such like use it. Harder than last time is useful for motivation but when creating programs isn't a good way of going about things
Greg used to act normally 1-2 years ago and providing lots of good information but unfortunately, he realized he need to add a bit of cringy stuff to be famous which he did! I stopped watching his channel when he started the silly natty or not series..
Greg does provide clear instructions and very sound info... Dont ler tge clickbait stuff he does override the validity of his training and diet info
Just bought your book, you may raise the price tag now
Haha ok. Will probably be this weekend sometime.
@@GVS just don't make it a 199 dollar E-book
You don't have to justify your review or the right to have a dissenting opinion about Greg (CG). His reaction to your review is extremely telling regarding his character and integrity. An adult would respond to a book review by either agreeing or disagreeing with what was said and providing reasons as to why....and do it in a respectful manner. Apparently most of CG's subscribers are still children (hence the comments about physique, how you don't compare to CG etc) and adore him because he is one of them in a 46 yr old's body. Your content is refreshing and you are genuine so please continue to keep up the great work.
Appreciate the support!
I am glad he did a video on you because I found your channel because of him. And I also am rethinking whether or not I want to continue watching him now because of his attitude and misrepresenting what you said.
I dont think unsubscribing and not watching Greg's content just because of a mistake is the right choice. However, greg must have seen the nice parts Geoffery said. Idk why he didnt put at least some of it in there. The only thing he put in his video was geoffery saying he's a specimen of a man shirtless. And that seems almost egotistical putting that in but not the other things Geoffery said.
@@jacocloete8659 Except this wasn't a one time occurrence with Greg if it was I wouldn't have typed that.
Maybe don't unsub just yet. But I'd be selective in the content of his you consume. A ton of it recently is just...pure entertainment, zero education.
@@GVS I would agree except Greg was very rude to another youtuber by the name of PureBullfit that he did about a review of Greg's anabolic cookbook in the past for comparing his cookbook to Mike Matthew's cookbook on the issue of whether the price point was worth it or not for the content you get in the book. He was also trashing the cookbook Mike Matthews made without even owning it and calling it cheap crap just to try to push his own cookbook.
@@BFGAficionado oh yeah i remembered that, though he was more fair to Kevin than he was to Geoffrey, it didn't seem as one sided of a response
Never seen your channel until Greg's video. It became apparent after Greg claimed the book was for beginners, but didn't include pictures, that something was amiss. Form cannot be overstated, so pictures are a must. Even for those less novice than others.
Might have to look at your book.
Welcome to the channel!
Greg is slowly sawing the branch he’s sitting on :/ I’m really disappointed lately!
Greg Nuckols has program bundle for only $10. I repeat $10. It has 6 programs. But the programs don’t look fancy. It's google spreadsheet and stuff, and you have to read a bit to understand the underlying concepts. The programs are damn good. They are designed the Wizard Greg Nuckols after all. But since they are not flashy and you have to read a bit, these idiots will say that it’s so complicated and all sorts of nonsense. As Thanos said, "reality is often disappointing." All that glitters is not gold. We are truly living in the end times where honest people are not rewarded and scammers are rewarded in every possible way. Look at the society around us. The worst in our society- psychopaths and sociopaths - are in leading positions. but honest people are struggling. Carry on Mr. Schofield. Good days are coming ahead.
Imagine having to use your brain a bit! 100% agree...pandering to the lowest common brain cell is becoming the most lucrative path.
Thanks for the chat on ig and take it as a push on your channel, bro.
Greg's aversion to his own motto of telling people what they "need to hear" has actually put me off his content for a while. Not looking for drama on a fitness channel, just good information, positivity and clarity. I guess he's letting success get to his head.
I came to know about Greg through this channel and he felt like one of those "blunt, truth-sayer" kinda person. Now I'm not so sure anymore.
I own SWEAT and im pretty sure it's one of the best sources of information on muscle building and fitness in general. Too bad your rating's probably gonna suffer now
Yea won't be 4.9 for long lol. I can live with that.
Yeah very disappointing to see what greg said. He complains about others not reading what he said, or watching the entire video of theirs, but then does that exact same thing to Geoffery. I'm still a fan of Greg's and of you, not going to unsubscribe to someone who gives awesome information just because of something so simple.
He either:
-Didn't watch my entire video,
-Willfully twisted my words,
-The editors weaved a narrative from his "raw rant" footage and my video, and he didn't see the final product because he's just too busy.
Or a mix. Not sure which is the worst.
It blows my mind really. Someone spent $200 on your book before he made a critique on it but you can't spend $8 to do the same before lambasting it. Also not going to unsub from Greg but this was a clear strike for me I wish he can do better and change my mind.
He pulled an Abby Sharp
@@GVS This is the way.......................................
I saw his video first, then your video. You both kind of have a snarky tone, but I really didn't find either video too hateful for my taste. You gave an honest review and he give his answers to what you had a problem with, no problems. I have since watched some of your videos and have subscribed. I like Greg, but I will not pay 200 bucks for his book. I am thinking about buying your ebook though. If I could get the paperback for that price I would have already bought it, but 30 bucks is still a lot of money. Peace!
$199 for a book? Seriously? That’s questionable in and of itself. You’re a stand up dude!
Thanks :)
Even college exercise science books written by actual phds dont cost that mucg
Could never get into Greg's content tbh, not that the info is bad but it's too performative and outlandish at this point. It's like when a good TV show "jumps the shark." Essentially where it goes off the rails and is no longer what it once was. Good response, I support you man
John Meadows > Greg Doucette
John is the goat. No drama. No bs. Just great information.
By a mile.
Google it!! Hoooow the heeeelll? Come on greg! After I saw his response to your video. I unsubscribed!
Yeah, man. I saw Greg's video and he lied by ommission. Honestly my opinion about him has worsened.
I think your work speaks for itself. And it has helped me a lot, far more than being shouted "train harder than last time". I know Greg's shit smearing is tough, but you are fighting the good fight. Keep it up, buddy.
Thanks!
Even I was disappointed at Greg's response. I think your point about not having any pictures of exercise hit home. Well done!
Geoff, Why would Coach Greg read your book when he knows everything already? lol. Anyway, I am with you on this. I bought your eBook and it's great; my Amazon review will reflect this opinion. Telling someone to Google how to do exercises is absurd. How do I know that to which Google refers me is actually the proper form for an exercise? I want to see a person in whom I am confident showing me how to do things correctly. Thanks for a great book and all the great UA-cam content. - Peace! Catch you in the next comment! :)
Yea Google is often not great for technique. Appreciate the support!
I saw that review and understand your disappointment. By the way, I'm buying your training book to support your channel and for you speaking up! 👍
Appreciate it!
My pleasure. I even ordered the paperback version too.
I agree with what you said about his book having no photos. At least jeff cavillere's programs have instructional vidoes even though they're over prized too. Im a fan of both you and greg but his response came off really disrespectful.
Greg is too used to getting videos praising him and his cook book. It's about time people are calling him out.
Most are paid, at least in clout. These people don't actually believe in the product, they just want some subs.
Everyone calling you DYEL probably don’t even tip the scales at 175 lmao
Don't discriminate against those who dó lift, but weigh under 175 mate!
I'm not genetically predisposed to be a big guy, at 160lb, 5 ft 9, but I can bench 1.5 x my bodyweight, and deadlift 450lb (almost 3 x my bodyweight)
But yeah, I agree. Most of the cult members insulting Geoffrey are probably tiny little twerps, or highly challenged in the IQ-department.
@@antonschoeman6447 im not tryna hate on skinny dudes. i’ve personally lost about 40lbs since i was into powerlifting (6’2” and 185ish now) and i’m perfectly okay with my physique despite not looking big anymore. i was tryna call out the people the people that are so insecure about their lack of muscle mass that they need to deride other lifters with respectable physiques, just because they don’t conform to their bigorexic standards
edit: solid numbers bro
@@JorgeGonzalez-sx7fk I know, was a bit of a tongue-in-cheek comment :)
Agree completely with you about the people with their bigorexia syndrome. It's part of the modern day internet culture as well. People hiding behind screens hurling petty insults.
Thanks, appreciate it!
Geoffrey waighing in at a fairly lean 200 plus ponds is by no means tinney. He is a prittey tall guy though so for people who are six foot plus it can be harder to get a really full looking build even if you work out a lot and have decent muscle development. People shouldn't judge Geoffrey phiseek biased of videos where he is in doors with bad lighting, no pump, and a fairly bad angle. Under thees circumstances most people would look crappy. But if you see a video where Geoffrey is in the gym with good lighting he deffinentley looks like he lifts. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I guess I find it slightly annoying how people who don't like certain influencers will find every and aney possible way to make them look way worst than they trulley are.
Massively let down by Greg’s response; wildly misrepresented your criticism which was balanced and well founded, and did not account for the positive feedback you gave for his general approach to fitness and specifically the strengths of his book. I’ve purchased a plan from you in the past and had great results, easily the best plan I’ve used and the help in answering questions a few months down the line was really appreciated.
Following this video I’m purchasing your book. You’ve made a strong case for the quality and comprehensiveness of your own book, and you have more than earned the support.
Keep building the channel man, loving the content.
For someone who's sensitive those comments would have been quite discouraging. These trolls won't get that.
Let's just say, the knowledge that I'm right...thickens the skin quite a bit.
@@GVS It do be like that.
I have to say that Greg has been doing this a lot. I didn't see people standing up for people like Stephanie Buttermore (whose video he also cherry picked and fed lines to). It takes being the butt end of Greg's videos to realize that his real modus operandi is "more spews for more views". He' just really good at throwing in just enough "good info" to make it seem like he cares.
I see this now, he opened my eyes this week. He's not a good person.
you got greg at a time when he is very prickly. so he edited to make you look as bad as possible. his desire for fast cars and money is starting to show through. thats you tube. walk it off, take the extra subs and keep up the good work. it is very much appreciated that you keep your quality high.
Yes greed will be his undoing. Thanks for the support!
I hate that everyone is trying to bring you down. Im a boxer and im a tall skinny dude. 6 foot even and all of 171 pounds. I probably don't "look like" I could, but ill run a ton of people into the dirt. Its very childish the way a bunch of Gregs followers tear everyone down who doesn't COMPLETELY agree with him. Glad to see you still doing good despite this. You rock man, forget the haters.
Thanks...gotta be thick skinned to be in this industry sometimes, especially when speaking your mind.
Exactly. It's just with many people they can't get out of this primal human tendency of making every issue an 'us' vs 'them' scenario
@@prateekyadav9811 That is an amazing way to put it! Makes sense for sure.
Subscribed good video, I unsubscribed to Ducette a few months back as he seems to have gotten a massive ego and there was a nasty atmosphere to his NoN videos.
Very toxic fanbase. Eventually, they'll turn on him.
@@GVS I use to really like his videos and even promoted them to others and I thought the voice was ok but might get old fast. Then one day I was watching one of the NoN videos and there was a really nasty tone when he spoke about the other person. Noticed he would praise them and their genetics like he's trying to be no sound liable then just nail that person down and accuse them of being on steroids.
There was one video or a few where he said the person wont admit to being on steroid because of legal reasons/repercussions in the country they live in, then proceeds to tell the whole world they must be on steroids because of this and that.
Lol this time there's no question about who's kinda being an ass. I agree with Greg 99.6% of the time but sadly, this is a complete debacle. 200$ for a fucking training book and one has to google the bloody exercises themselves..I haven't read your training book but I've consumed bucketloads of your top-notch content on Quora and can definitely verify that yours is a gem of a book for just a tiny amount of 8 bucks!
Funny how Greg's fans are ok with Greg reviewing and trashing every fitness channels out there even legit ones such as Mike Isratael and Jeff nippard and when he does that it's for the education and benefit of the viewers even though half the video is just him screaming harder than last time, but when other people make actual genuinely fair and constructive videos, he gets butthurt and all his fans cry out that they're doing it for the clout as if that's not what Greg does by spamming videos every day😂. So hyocritical it isn't even funny anymkre
Yea big double standard.
Greg already says that he does it for clout. Just putting that out there
Jeff nipparls is the fakest natty
It's because Greg thinks he's right 99.6% of the time, or whatever. You've gotta be open to critics to stay fair.
I'm a fan of the Doc but I 100% agree with you, please everyone like this video so that Greg sees this. Would be great if he responds to this :) Cheers Geoffrey!
He already replied to this video in the comment section, and maintained his arrogance about the situation.
Greg straight up surprised me. I did not think he was that salty. He also said that you do not work harder than him. You probably work similar hours and I bet greg would not review my deadlift in ig message(thanks for that). You are much more involved with your followers
Been following you for a while now. The quality content you put out has helped a lot of people. In full support Geoff.
He handled himself really well too. I also hate people with attention of a gold fish. I wonder if Greg fans are Tik Tok users.
after all of greg’s ranting about mike israetel’s advice of not going to failure on every session specially for beginners and making fun of reps in reserve and how it complicates things and saying that this way of training isn’t hard enough and you need to push yourself harder and harder and harder. After all of that the actual advice he gives in his 199$ overpriced book is to start with 5 reps in reserve!!!!!!!!!!! If that isn’t hypocrisy I don’t know what it’s called.
he lost all of his credibility for me as someone to take advice from at that moment
Yea he's really all over the place with his advice. The same catch phrases, yea, but the details? Every month is different.
Greg has made apologies before and even when he does make apologie, his fan base still goes against the people he gives apologies to.
Hi Geoffrey. I saw your comment under a post in Greg's subreddit and I came to your channel. You seem like a genuine guy, I subbed. I might buy your ebook later, €7 is a steal
Welcome aboard!
Your assessment of Greg's methods, contributions to the pursuit of fitness, and book were overwhelmingly positive. Greg willfully ignored this. He also seems willfully ignorant of your methods, contributions, and book.
Your pointing out that Greg's book lacks pictures and exercise descriptions is factual. This accuracy may actually be why Greg is so emotional.
I just watched all these book videos. Really sad to see what Greg did here you were critical but fair and praised him when due, I enjoyed the truthfully honest review. You gained a sub.
Welcome to the channel!
Bro. We got you. Your channel is super underrated. Keep up the with the fire content
I really thought Greg was going to skip over your video. It would have been better as his video just made needless drama
I really like both of you guys and you both make great content. It is tough seeing Greg stirring more drama than last time
Here supporting my man.
Look at the bright side... At the end of the day you were given exposure in a channel with almost 1M subscribers. Luckily you'll gain a few thousands this month.
Yea will get ~200-300 extra from this it looks like, a small bump.
People always assume that the value of the product is directly tied to the price, no knowing that an $8 book could be just as good as Gregg’s $200. People should really look at both and decide for themselves which is better rather than just listening to one side or the other haha
I agree, actually. I have plenty of reviews on Amazon. Greg has his book on his site so...good luck finding any!
Great video good points, I been watching Greg since 5000 Subs and he has fallen into the " influencer" trap recently, I liked it when it was just him talking in general not all the flash and bang bs to make the video look "cool", keep your video as they are mate you in front of a desk, I wanna her information not someone trying to entertain me in such a way like he sort of is at the moment
For 200$ Greg's book should have been the holy grail. But SWEAT is the best beginner fitness ebook I have come across yet! ❤️👍.Thank you for your efforts creating the book bro.
I've said that! "Holy Grail' with no pictures. Even the very first training books had diagrams. Lol
Appreciate that!
I'm glad you did this video. I knew Greg was going to go after you for the original video, he is such a snowflake. He did 3 separate videos to criticize Abbey Sharp because she dared say anything negative about his diet despite the fact that Abbey Sharp is extremely polite. He just cannot accept the mildest criticism.
I really enjoy Greg's channel but it is insulting to fans to charge the kind of money he does. No workout book is worth $200 that's absurd. And a $100 cookbook for really basic recipes...no. Greg somehow thinks he invented low calorie foods but again No. I did buy your book and I'm glad I did but I can't believe Doucette thinks his book is worth that kind of money. Actually I think he know that is way too much money just doesn't care about his fans as long as he gets paid. Kind of pisses me off. And that go google comment!!! I freaked when he said that
Just bought your book to show support. Will give a rating when done with it :-)
I am a big fan of Greg and I am very sad he didn't treat your review fairly. I'll keep watching both of your channels because I believe you both are the forces of good in UA-cam fitness. Keep up the good work, Geoff!
Subbed here from gregs reaction video
I bought jon meadows training book and he even has a list of exercises and video index for the same price as Greg's book. And it's listed for intermediate/advanced
Meadows is the GOAT
@@johnjohntv1195 nahhh.. Meadow is a human
@@noelroga4593 'Google' what goat is
@@Msreesaranyan i know what it is. Clearly the joke went over
Whenever people ask Jon about Greg you can see him hesitate a bit before giving a diplomatic answer..Jon having met Greg in real life knows what's up
$200 for a bloody E-Book?! After his take on Trans, I am really questioning his judgment.
His take of Trans is actually something i still agree with him on
Disappointing and distasteful from Greg. Bad vibes. Hope making this video helped you rant it out and you put this behind you, man. Honestly man, all those hate comments you got would have bothered with my head had I been in your place. Sheep tryna bully others, ugh. So, ignore and keep posting great content, Geoff.
Been following Greg for a long time, I had to disagree with his video as well. Recently began following you because of Sean Nel’s video. Keep up the good work with the content!
I got here (and subscribed) because of Sean Nal too. Sean has some great content too. I've watched his video of recommended fitness youtubers and coach Greg is the only one I could not get with, and it wasn't even related to this (unnecessary) book review drama. I now plan to check out SLIGHTLY cheaper ebook.
I think your review was polite and balanced. Disappointed to hear his reaction to it. Keep up the good work Geoffrey!
Thanks, will do!
Definitely going to buy your book! It's clear you wrote it actually caring about improving people's lives. Fitness Influencers all develop cults (e.g. Jeff Cavaliere) and Greg is one of them
Just watched Greg's entire response. It is hilarious how sensitive he is. Around 17:43 when he tries to counter-argue, that he can't make it right by you when he doesn't include pictures of the exercises, while at the same time, you 'criticise' him for having himself, shirtless and flexing, as the cover of his book.
Is he just desperately looking for a rebuttal or is he unable to understand that he can take pictures of exercises with his shirt on?
he 4 foot and has a monstrous ego hes juicing since about 17 hes a clown thats all
I just came across your content, and I've been streaming it for two days! Good stuff. Thanks.
Glad you enjoy it!
Haha, you covered all the points in the comments I left in Greg's video. This was an opportunity to improve on his book by focusing on the praise and acting on the criticism. Instead he chose to respond negatively like some of those who make negative responses to his Natty or Not videos. As someone who professes disliking being cherry-picked and misrepresented, it was sad to see Greg do the same to your review and book.
You did dat dawg!
I was his fan...not anymore
Yea I'm on the fence. I mean, I still agree with some of what he says, but if someone is willing to twist my words this badly it's hard to really still respect them.
@@GVS Watching his content is what led me to have a massive ED. All he cares about is calories and that leads his fans to excessive calorie tracking (like me). In his cookbook, there's no nutritional value of food whatsoever and it's just loaded with recipes that mostly include stevia and xantham gum. His logic is basically "If it's low in calories, then have it". In fact, I lost more weight during my anorexia recovery stage than I did while counting calories. Idk how
@@GVS Btw this is the first time I stopped by ur channel. Can't believe ur book is only $8. That's amazing
@@AD-ge1bz Not sure what you are talking about dude, calories in calories out is and will always be the way to lose weight, anyone that preach what Greg preach should focus on that, his shit is overprice as fuck and not worth it but lets not demonize it, they have their value (his cookbook while expensive as fuck does help you) overexaggerate with your die to the point you try to be obsess with 'eat clean' is far more dangerous then stevia/xantham
I've seen your review and the review of your review by Greg. And was disappointed. With Greg ;) Didn't Greg complain about people purposefully ignoring good things ha had said when judging/criticizing others? Well, double standards are double edged sword.
Anyway a little bit of drama will help you in the long run since people with a half of brain will recognize the value you bring here and that Greg indeed was unfair.
But now he won't make a video to solve the issue regarding incompletely watching your review video.
Only cherry picked the critical parts 😪😪
Will chop up individual syllables and reforge them into something that makes me seem like a hater.
Yeah I am very disappointed in Greg's response without representing your entire message nor reading your book but i wont say I am shocked. But, as they say, there is no such thing as bad PR.. regardless of the drama, your name and consequently your message will be available to a wider range of audiences ultimately magnifying your end goal of spreading truth and integrity in a very dishonest and at times immoral industry.
Hold your head high my man cause you are fighting the good fight. No doubt you will gain countless numbers of detractors and fanboys that will keyboard warrior style critique your knowledge and physique because this industry has skewed physiques so much that people think you are only qualified if your glutes and pecs are striated and have sub 10% bodyfat.
The silver lining is that even if one of those people is exposed to your message and change their views, it is worth it. Trust me, I keep an open mind and watch many different influncers. Granted, I am human and get caught up in the drama at times as well but also realize that no one person is completely good nor bad. I spent many many of my formidable years prior to Google (lol) training the routines I saw in the flex and muscular development magazines and as a result, built my base without squats deadlifts or other heavy basic compound exercises but substituted the flashy, sexy and easier cable fluff stuff.
I was able to finally realize that I had spent lots of energy and wasted effort(not entirely wasted, but slow progress) and discovered another way through Jason Blaha of all people...(yeah yeah, I know, but he is right about that concept at least) the point is, everybody should have an open mind and not be so focused on cult followings unless someone is totally selling some bogus miracle cure like many do on here... even still i watch, because again, human, car wrecks and stuff.
on a side note, as I told you once before, I would highly suggest you raise that price. Not that your ideals aren't noble and it isn't about making a profit, so much as people, rightly so or not, place emphasis on price. If it costs more, it must be better, and if it is cheaper, you generally get cheap people(those that will call and harass and criticize and argue)
keep up the good fight brother, got a sub for life here. Gonna pick up that book as well, not that I need it per se, but wanna support your outreach.
Really like you both!! Sorry to hear about the copyright strike ☹. I just found your channel because of this and REALLY glad to come across your channel as well! 😊
Geoffrey I have been looking into bodybuilding books since 4 years and when I have got your book.....It's just the best 👏☝️✋
Appreciate that!
You were fair in your review & while I respect Greg, it was not an honest response.
Greg's a goon. I watch some of his vids, but I just dont get how some of his subscribers take him so seriously. Do they not realize he is playing a character? I never realized people actually took him seriously. I thought it was common knowledge that he was a joke.
It's a cult.
@@GVS yep one that I learned the hard way to sway away from
I commented on his board that you are a fan of his and said so but I guess he saw you as competition because you have your own book
Chin up man, I still support you. I know people often criticize the cult members, but they should criticize the guy too. Considering he literally would use his fandom - err - cultdom to harass people who disagree or criticize him.
I am a Fan of Greg too , but when he said (u don't need 40 different Biceps exercises) and was talking about u like u recommend this , i was like OK he doesn't know what he's talking about .
cause u ALWAYS stand against these kinda of stuff and say keep it simple and don't reinvent the wheel
I THINK he was referring to Humiston, but now that I think back, he didn't mention anyone and perhaps he was referring to me...which...yea...isn't what I'm about at all.
@@GVS ye i still love greg but he's totally in the wrong here about u , and went full defensive mode tbh .
You keep it real bro mad respect ✊
This is exactly what other people are saying about him. He speaks very negatively about other content creators then flips out when they don’t like it. More so, he usually never follows the advice he dishes out! (Regarding fact checking)