Debate: Norway goes back on promise

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  • Опубліковано 27 лют 2012
  • In a debate moderated by TIMES NOW's Editor-in-Chief Arnab Goswami, panelists - Anurup Bhattacharya & Sagorika Bhattacharya, Parents of Abhigyan and Aishwarya and Leela Ponappa, former Deputy National Security Advisor -- discuss the issue of family of two children demanding Norwegian govt to send the kids back to India immediately and whether India should threaten to cut off trade ties with Norway if the children are not returned immediately. Download the Times Now India's Election HQ app and get all the election info at one go. Click here: bit.ly/1iwcRBr Social Media Links :
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 108

  • @shikhadutta239
    @shikhadutta239 Рік тому +75

    Attitude of her husband is disgusting....the main culprit....

  • @nihalkhan22
    @nihalkhan22 Рік тому +51

    I am sure husband has told her not to answer anything and just say that she can't hear anything. Its so obvious, the host actually understood husbands strategy and told him to convey the question to his wife. He got proper confused there. Hes an abuser and a control freak. I am glad she got rid of him.

    • @iracture
      @iracture Рік тому +2

      when a relationship dies..kids always suffer. Both of them were trying to use political influence to get the kids out of Norway. There was no relationship between them at that point otherwise Norway govt would not get involved in their family matter in the first place. When a relationship goes wrong, its unfair to blame one over the other. Both are guilty party to have kids without a strong relationship/understanding. Lets hope and pray the kids are doing ok today. Frankly Norway is a far better place for the Autistic elder child. The amount of right he would enjoy there is unimaginable in India. However the political junta in India always supports mother in such cases as that is our Indian culture. The Norway system is less influenced by gender of a parent. What they look for is maturity , financial ability etc while awarding child custody rights. They felt both parents were incapable of looking for the kids. They found the brother to be more capable to look after the kids.

    • @ruckyg3177
      @ruckyg3177 Рік тому +2

      ⁠@@iracture what the heck are you talking about? 😂
      Even Muslim and Buddhist kids are separated from their families without enough reasons given by the Swedish government. The Swedish social services receive more funding with more cases of children being taken. Foster "parents" also receive money. The whole thing is a business. There are many cases of sexual abuse and physical abuse by foster families against these children who are just a way of making an extra income.
      Go and research before assuming that these social services in Sweden actually care about families or children.

    • @iracture
      @iracture Рік тому +1

      @@ruckyg3177 lived there. So know for a fact u r lying. The system is partial towards self responsibility. So in a way self managed families have a better interaction with the system. In our locality a bitter relationship couple had first child in their late 40s. Within 2 years the special needs of the child became evident. Since the parents were busy fighting to give time to child, gradually in a community setting the child started behaving differently. The parents kept an expensive nanny at request of child services in hope of making things better. The child responded well to nanny and the mother for sake of child's better future let the nanny adopt the kid when he was 5 yrs old. The mother till date thanks the child services for timely intervention. The mother in this case was able to put thespecial needs of child above her needs as a parent. Now majority parents where I was raised would go crying foul as u r . Blaming child services of corruption and business. But just because child services gives more importance to needs of child does not make them greedy corporation. Overall it is a very helpful setup in a country where everything is cold and distant including humans. Their manner may appear brusque to a newly immigrated mother. But that area people are like that however they know their responsibility and obligations very well.

    • @tonidiane6153
      @tonidiane6153 Рік тому +1

      ​@@iracture that's nonsense. He is trash as a husband and as a father.

  • @lindakinoni131
    @lindakinoni131 Рік тому +52

    Wow, the husband was sitting next to his wife and he didn't look at her once and he did not try to help her even though he knew she was struggeling.

  • @notrealatall196
    @notrealatall196 Рік тому +43

    If they are sitting together then why cant he just tell her what hes hearing. Just as basic human decency

  • @rabinabhattarai704
    @rabinabhattarai704 Рік тому +26

    You can understand how evil the husband is by this video

  • @paromita10
    @paromita10 Рік тому +56

    Entirely agree with Arnav that Norway wouldn’t do this with American families!

    • @iracture
      @iracture Рік тому +1

      but how many american families let the child bear the burnt of their martial discord ? Ask any american raised child..they will say one day one of the parents packed their suitcases and just left...Hardly any child raised in America will tell u tales of domestic violence at home that they were witness to. Parents in America are very careful about how they behave in front of children even if they are in midst of seperation. Doing this to an American family in Norway is rare simply because American families handle Domestic violence if any very differently. In rare cases they may shoot each other off in America where firearms are legal, but no one beats up anyone.

    • @sanchan7312
      @sanchan7312 Рік тому

      ​@@iracture wow no one beats their wives in american so sad that yu are indian such an expert on american society yu are

    • @ruckyg3177
      @ruckyg3177 Рік тому +3

      @@iracture yeah right 😂🙄 hence all the drug abuse substance abuse and violence among Americans

    • @ranjithrpj
      @ranjithrpj Рік тому

      ​@@iracture you are imagining. I have seen worse american families myself. Dont vomit your imagination and lecture us.

    • @user-jc2lz6jb2e
      @user-jc2lz6jb2e 10 місяців тому

      There actually is an American family that had this done to them in Norway.

  • @himakada9615
    @himakada9615 Рік тому +87

    The father looks so cold and insensitive to people around him, he is least supportive to his wife even in live tv , I just can’t believe he didn’t try to help her with the ear piece or atkeast check once . Disgraceful man

    • @MS-ki3kr
      @MS-ki3kr Рік тому +1

      We dont know his side of the story its not good to make a judgement without onowing everything. The lady is not asking for help ma6 be she does not like getting his help we wont know.

    • @iracture
      @iracture Рік тому +3

      Their relationship was dead...That is the main reason why the Norway child protection services gave the kids to a more responsible parents..

    • @ruckyg3177
      @ruckyg3177 Рік тому +1

      @@MS-ki3kr most Asian wives are like that. They don’t ask for help,, doesn’t mean they don’t go through mental emotional and physical abuse

    • @Dhi_3
      @Dhi_3 Рік тому

      ​​​​@@iracture because the father is an ahole.. they punished the mother too. You are an ahole yourself for saying this. Nobody has any right to seperate mother from her kids

    • @ranjithrpj
      @ranjithrpj Рік тому +4

      ​​@@iracture you seem to be on payroll of corrupt Norway system😂. If their relationship is dead can someone snatch their children? Whts your logic?

  • @smitabarfe5241
    @smitabarfe5241 Рік тому +20

    Why her husband did not allow to answer.
    He is clever I feel so...he just wanted to get citizenship of Norwegian.
    Poor mother.

    • @azanakbar110
      @azanakbar110 Місяць тому

      Many others have this intentions at other levels. There are people out there who put their relations, values and principles at stake just for the sake of winning citizenship- be it Norway, US or UK. Asians have just sold all this to purchase citizenship

  • @sudeshnamukherjee677
    @sudeshnamukherjee677 Рік тому +30

    It seems like husband & wife lack normal communication & comfort zone between themselves.

  • @pourushpatil2952
    @pourushpatil2952 Рік тому +12

    Keep the husband and return the kids..

  • @astctrigo
    @astctrigo Рік тому +12

    Anirudh clearly doesnt want sagharika to have a say. Super annoying.

  • @ratnasarkar720
    @ratnasarkar720 Рік тому +18

    Brave lady.

  • @RRL_ke
    @RRL_ke Рік тому +10

    Here after Netflix 😢

  • @Secret-jd6pd6dx5u
    @Secret-jd6pd6dx5u Рік тому +34

    Sorry to say but the father is not ok . He has a fishy personality

  • @sangeetasingh7641
    @sangeetasingh7641 Рік тому +12

    Sagarika is so sweet she is looking like scared from her husband

  • @user-xu3gv4zh9b
    @user-xu3gv4zh9b Рік тому +20

    I only speak Ukrainian. I am using google translator. Therefore, please excuse me if the translation is bad! I am from Western Ukraine. I am a nurse and I save lives. I live now in Germany. I need a lawyer to file, with other disabled citizens of Ukraine, a lawsuit against Norway. My husband, a Ukrainian (oil worker, human rights activist) became disabled as a result of his defense of the rights of other people (Norwegian and Russian media for 9 years). My husband fought corruption in the Russian oil giant, which was headed by the founder of the 6th Directorate of the FSB and the ex-Chancellor of Germany. My husband defended the rights of disabled people and Ukrainians in Norway against Russian-speaking citizens of this NATO country. The Norwegians took my disabled husband to Moscow AFTER: anti-war pickets of my husband in the Russian Federation, his defense of the rights of Ukrainians in Norway, the issuance of documents to my husband by the Norwegian Red Cross for his close relatives (Polish servicemen repressed by the Russians), sentencing his defender to prison (in married to a citizen of Finland for 25 years) in Belarus, who reported the crime of the Norwegians against the Ukrainians and was recognized as a Political prisoner. My husband and his lawyer warned the Norwegians about the coming war, but they did not believe him. The husband was kidnapped and the war began. And after the war began, the Norwegians do NOT admit their mistakes! Unlike the Swedes, the Norwegians DO NOT LIKE to admit their mistakes even when the Chechen refugees deported by the Norwegians were killed in the Russian Federation (Norwegian media).sa

    • @noonefornow1514
      @noonefornow1514 Рік тому +2

      Really sad to hear that this happened to you I really hope and pray things get better for you.

    • @user-xu3gv4zh9b
      @user-xu3gv4zh9b Рік тому +1

      We are wondering why in Norway, BEFORE the war in Ukraine, provided, at the expense of Norwegian taxpayers, asylum to citizens of the Russian Federation who have a second citizenship of Ukraine? For example, the Jehovah's Witnesses in Ukraine were not threatened at all! And the payment of the state fee for renunciation of Ukrainian citizenship, in order to acquire citizenship of the Russian Federation, NEVER led to the loss of Ukrainian citizenship. After the correspondence of the Ukrainian anti-corruption fighters with the Norwegian police about specific religious "refugees" who received asylum in Norway (the "refugees" had 2 citizenships), the deportation of disabled Ukrainians to the Russian Federation followed, BUT they had a family in Ukraine! Collective deportation, strictly prohibited by law, was subjected to those Ukrainians - fighters against corruption, who reported, BEFORE the war, about the facts of granting asylum to Russian citizens in Norway, as religious "refugees". These "refugees" had, among other things, a Ukrainian passport (and there was no war in Ukraine then, and Jehovah's Witnesses in Ukraine were very happy)))

    • @user-xu3gv4zh9b
      @user-xu3gv4zh9b Рік тому +1

      Who will give the contacts of a lawyer, who will be able to recover material compensation from the Norwegians in favor of the Ukrainians (media). The reason: the use by the Norwegians of Ukrainians with disabilities of collective deportation prohibited by the Law, without a trial and an interpreter, with the non-admission to the defense of Ukrainians of their representative, who is recognized as a political prisoner (media). Family members of Ukrainians have not seen each other for more than 3 years. Ukrainians are ready to sign an agreement with a lawyer, according to which the lawyer will receive ANY part of the winnings he wants.,

  • @debolinarajak8098
    @debolinarajak8098 Рік тому +12

    It seems that her microphone was kept off intentionally.

    • @nihalkhan22
      @nihalkhan22 Рік тому +5

      I am sure that husband had told her not to answer and just make an excuse that you can't hear him. Hes the culprit here, hes an abuser and a control freak. Poor wife looked so confused and was all over the place.

  • @Nmoon65
    @Nmoon65 Рік тому +8

    The husband has mental issue.

  • @aaditibiswas1599
    @aaditibiswas1599 Рік тому +12

    I think one of the parents is the father is the culprit...he used to do domestic violence and from then the Norwegian govt led their eyes on the children

  • @bhavitabadani8332
    @bhavitabadani8332 Рік тому +3

    Another IT couple from India is going through the same in Germany. Their baby ARIHA Shah is taken from them and given to german foster care. They are still fighting this battle

  • @prajaktapatil8219
    @prajaktapatil8219 Рік тому +14

    The husband seems dominating and seems he disregards her and unintetionally didnt want her to speak

  • @tonidiane6153
    @tonidiane6153 Рік тому +4

    After all of this, the dad didnt even want the kids back. Smh.

  • @azizmz9120
    @azizmz9120 Рік тому +4

    I hope the Father is having a difficult life by now after been on the spotlight because of the movie

  • @paromita10
    @paromita10 Рік тому +14

    Cut off all trade ties with Norway!

  • @David-bx3wv
    @David-bx3wv Рік тому +4

    Such an inhuman husband, what kind of father would he be when he cant even treat his ex wife properly.
    He's pathetic in everything and not trying to help her . He should be kicked out from world

  • @rajiprasad255
    @rajiprasad255 Рік тому +4

    Disgusting husband treating his wife with disrespect.!

  • @tresvecesno7071
    @tresvecesno7071 5 місяців тому +1

    10:23 to 10:31, the mother say "yes" with her head.
    10:32 to 10:36 she say "yes" again with her head. More strongly.
    Both moves was in sync with the words of the person talking. So, she was listening all the time or she could listen after solve some technical problems?
    In the first one, the non-verbal communication "yes" with her head was smoothly, in the second one was stronger. In the first one the new announcer was talking about criminals, in the second one he was talking about them. Is coherent the "yes" was stronger in the second one because she had an emotional connection with the words: are them.
    I have questions with that, but again, not enough to take the children away from them but... enough question to start an investigation if I would see other things as a worker that have to protect the children life

  • @foziayusuf9937
    @foziayusuf9937 Рік тому +3

    Social services are cruel also in UK

  • @danael5041
    @danael5041 Рік тому +4

    La Norvegia dopo questa storia ha perso la sua immagine.

  • @tonidiane6153
    @tonidiane6153 Рік тому +2

    They probably turned her mic/earpiece off intentionally. They didnt want her speaking at all. Horrible people. Poor mother.

  • @chillyhd
    @chillyhd Рік тому +17

    Oo this is the Real story (Case)
    All the Western Countries are Same
    Germany And Norway..

    • @WatchOut628
      @WatchOut628 Рік тому

      Norway is quite stricter on parenting.
      When on roam do what 's the Roman do

    • @saffron1977
      @saffron1977 Рік тому

      ​@@WatchOut628 not strict , they run the scam shame on norwaygions shame shame

    • @kdas2000in
      @kdas2000in Рік тому

      Much better than india where there is no law.

  • @tresvecesno7071
    @tresvecesno7071 5 місяців тому +1

    6:04 to 6:13 I ask, she tried to communicate with him but he doesn't talk to her? And she gave up?
    I don't know but... if the parents communicate each other like this, I going to have some question about how they communicate with their child

  • @BhupinderKaur-bs7wr
    @BhupinderKaur-bs7wr Рік тому +2

    I saw the movie and watching the news 😢

  • @VirmatiMehta-x4z
    @VirmatiMehta-x4z 18 днів тому

    There is something off with them

  • @bora3.14
    @bora3.14 Рік тому +5

    So sad

  • @ratangangopadhyaygangopadh9826

    Italians VIPs and not Indians

  • @foziayusuf9937
    @foziayusuf9937 Рік тому +5

    I need help UK social services took my older son I need help to bring my son back to me.

    • @naziafatima6250
      @naziafatima6250 Рік тому +1

      Is everything okay now?? For how long your son is with them?? Why did they took your son?

  • @azanakbar110
    @azanakbar110 Місяць тому

    You don't have to look too far to view this behaviour, you'll find it in your relatives residing overseas. There are others such people, but at different levels. People have sold and continue to sell their values, principles, relations and basic human traits to purchase citizenships/surged salaries of countries like Norway, US, UK etc.

  • @lien.55
    @lien.55 2 місяці тому

    Watching after mrs. Chatterjee vs Norway

  • @user-xu3gv4zh9b
    @user-xu3gv4zh9b Рік тому +3

    Who will give the contacts of a lawyer, who will be able to recover material compensation from the Norwegians in favor of the Ukrainians (media). The reason: the use by the Norwegians of Ukrainians with disabilities of collective deportation prohibited by the Law, without a trial and an interpreter, with the non-admission to the defense of Ukrainians of their representative, who is recognized as a political prisoner (media). Family members of Ukrainians have not seen each other for more than 3 years. Ukrainians are ready to sign an agreement with a lawyer, according to which the lawyer will receive ANY part of the winnings he wants.,,

  • @kavyanayak1551
    @kavyanayak1551 Рік тому +2

    I guess she was not thatcomfortble in speaking in english

    • @Dhi_3
      @Dhi_3 Рік тому

      Not a problem.. if she could hear what he is asking she could answer in broken English. She is not in a situation to get worried about her english speaking skills. The ahole husband not even helping her.

  • @upadhyayrathiraj1518
    @upadhyayrathiraj1518 Рік тому +1

    Action by Norwegian institution would attract a case of Abduction and Human Trafficking in India.

    • @mirka
      @mirka Рік тому

      human trafficking in India must be common ? no such thing in Norway.

  • @anuradhajoshi9010
    @anuradhajoshi9010 2 місяці тому

    Husband's eyes tells all about wat he is cooking in his mind

  • @khadijanajeebnajeeb3209
    @khadijanajeebnajeeb3209 Місяць тому

    English me kyu baat karte ho bhai

  • @lien.55
    @lien.55 2 місяці тому

    Motherboard
    Husband....

  • @prashanttayshetye9068
    @prashanttayshetye9068 Рік тому +6

    This is Bs the guy later says wife attacked him. Indian media should do inveatigation before splashing everything

    • @prateekbhardwaj9943
      @prateekbhardwaj9943 Рік тому

      what do you mean?

    • @maze_runner098
      @maze_runner098 Рік тому +5

      but Kolkata media said the husband was always emotionally unavailable and a big narcissist

    • @prashanttayshetye9068
      @prashanttayshetye9068 Рік тому

      @@maze_runner098 which husband is india

    • @maze_runner098
      @maze_runner098 Рік тому

      @@prashanttayshetye9068 both husband and wife were Indian what do you mean?