There are pros and cons for co sleeping. Norway is not backwards as it`s been done in Norway for 100`s of years. But! there are dangers involved with co sleeping especilly when they are infants. like suffocations. Norway was plagued with alot of crib deaths wich is why the health departments is informing about safty rules when co sleeping.
The parents are claming that its Why the lost custody of the kids the children safety are saying that it was serious problems in the family roughly translated. So don’t just jump in the bandwagon and think they are perfect
This has been based on a true story. A mother went through great trauma being separated by her children. She was declared unstable. I think they were consulted before making this movie. I cannot imagine the nightmare she went through. I will not undermine or diminish her anguish in anyway.
It was inspired by true events and took a lot of creative liberties the government of Norway issued a statement and there is evidence of physical assault in the original cased. This movie turned the real person into a martyr which is not entirely true
As a Norwegian born and raised, it would be so painful for me to not sleep with my parents a lot. Currently 26 years old, and I really needed to sleep together with my parents for many years because I had nightmares that kept happening even tho I was half awake, so I needed a friendly body to hold around me.
@অচেনা একজন The authorities does not try to have anything to do with our private life at all, unless concerns from others are brought up. Probably what happened in these peoples case. Never heard about anything like this when and where I grew up. Some places might be more strict, but I grew up in the countryside. I currently live 7 hours by train away from most of my family, but I often visit! Stayed here for 7 years now, after studying for 3 years and then working. My brother's family is half Turkish and have no problem at all when he usually sleep with their kids. His wife is a teacher also. When I hear about stuff talked about in this movie, it breaks my heart because it is so horrible and unnecessary.
@@navinshringi4608 Yup, took my brother without giving proper papers that were mailed days later! & They never checked the anon/witnesses background(as some were known as thieves, liars, drugsaddicts etc) & 1 lady wasn't even concidered to be checked bc "she worked for the heath personel in the government" aka CPS believ they don't lie, have motives, makes mistakes etc bc they're not human laws don't apply to them?!...
Rani is the master of her craft , whether she’s doing Krav Maga in an action film Mardaani , playing a woman affected by Tourette’s syndrome in hichki , a deaf dumb girl in black or a rich girl from NY singing “Hey Shona” and dancing at Times Square , each and every character is nailed to perfection. Such variety , such a range is unmatched :) Here in this trailer , her screams tug at our heartstrings :) there will never be another Rani
Thanks guys, we were in Norway (Oslo) too. This incident is true, and one of the strong reasons we did not want to stay in Norway. So once our son was a bit old for school, we moved. Also English is not the first language so difficult to navigate. We had to learn basic level Norwegian. Although the locals that I met were very friendly.
@@lostsoul4317 my teacher lived in Europe and according to her, the more the children the more is the money given by govt. So yes money might me given for care.
Feeding by hand not allowed?! sounds absurd! my mother would sometimes give me food by hand, not always, and of course not when very soft foods, in that case a spoon is more useful, but it definitely happened. Also, I do recall sleeping between my mother and my father on at least one occasion. Since this is many, many years ago, I don`t remember much, of course . I do remember that I did have my own bed, but it very often happened that I would sleep between my parents. Child care has been controversial here in Norway, and in this case they definitely could have handled things a lot better! I am glad they were convicted at the Human Rights Court in the Netherlands, hopefully they have learnt a lesson. Namaste from Oslo.
It is like if foreigner couple feed their kid with spoon and fork in india then Indian athorities will take their child in custody... Doing injustice based on cultural differences doesn't make sense... I feel It's cultural intolerance.. Or ignorance.. Or culture supriority complex
I watched the movie today and was really taken back by the level of trauma that mother went through. I’m aware of social services being very vigilant in western countries and had no idea they were this psycho in a country like Norway which apparently stands amongst top 5 happiest countries in the world. Upon researching some more I found there are many other similar cases related to other communities as well which is really sad. Being a parent myself I can’t even imagine going through this with my child so thank god I’m not in Norway or any other similar country with such bull shit laws.
@@izznoogood sure, Norway never does propaganda ! you guys are so naive. The entire world is telling you your system is effed up. You cant say "No" back to the world asswipe.
Sometime, last year I read about the life of an Indian woman who was adopted as a baby by a childless Scandinavian couple in the 70s. The husband wanted to adopt the child but the wife was not so keen. The couple anyway adopted her and took her to their country. A few years later the couple divorced. The wife was given custody of the Indian child. She placed the child in an orphanage. So the Indian girl ended up moving from one foster family to another. Some treated her well and some didn't. She ended up getting pregnant at 17 or 18, dropped out of school, married somebody in her early twenties, had more kids, got divorced. Two of her kids now live with her and the other two refuse to even see her because her estranged husband does not want them to see her. She had an extremely tough life. She says that it is quite common for adopted children to go through this type of life when people who have adopted them get divorced.
That's really sad. Wonder why the ex-wife got custody when it was the ex-husband that wanted to adopt? And why didn't he get the kid out of the orphanage? Sounds like a really useless man to me.
I understand the makers of this video are desperate (probably financially) to live in Norway but that doesn't mean they've the right to dilute the facts shared in the movie. This movie opens up a huge number of issues about immigrant family safety and racism that prevails across Norway, Denmark, Germany and other countries in European Union. #NorwayCultural-Gentrification
I hope you or your friends or your partner had a messed up childhood,Abusive parent .It mess up the wholeee life.Whole country eventually whole civilization.Most of the times messed up children mess other people's life when they grow up.Or else commit suicide or stay in depression.Here in India children get blackmailed, manipulated ,intimidated when they finally want to call child services or police,or tell a neighbour but most of all they never even know where to ask for help.Yes I am from India And It has the worst parenting style generations by generations going on.I have seen lecturing people about Indian parents and their love,I wish It was norway ,many many child's life would have been less traumatic then.Our country would have touched the zenith of development if they had first started with their child system.Because children are the future of a country and A messed up childhood can never ever be healed.
I know about two single mothers, whose children was taken for income sake by other families in Norway. One mother died before her children became adult.
Thank god I’m in Australia here community service people come to your house and they are so nice to mother they respect our culture. I remember when my daughter born I told childcare service nurse that my house is messy n I felt embarrassed but she said your health is way more important than anything else and you as a mother knew better for your child then anyone else in this world.
Honestly, I am glad that this is coming to light. You have given your very balanced view on this ❣️ (which reflects that you that feel safe) but that's not the case with everyone. This needs to come to the surface. In 2021, the European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) handed down ten judgments against Norway. Norway was convicted in six of them for having violated human rights-all of them dealt with child protection. In total, the ECtHR has handed down 65 judgments against Norway, and the state has been convicted in 43 of these. And 43 is 43 too much. There are so many bad and ugly stories in Norway about this topic-on the part of child protection against children and parents.
Many European countries act in violation of the ECHR, especially when it comes to actions by youth care agencies. Youth care agencies earn millions on the backs of victims. The Youth Services agencies traumatize victims for life just for money and power. This is not fair.
This case became famous in West Bengal as both the parents were Bengalis from Kolkata. You can find lot of material online from old news links that explains the circumstances in detail.It would be wrong to say that the parents fought, it was solely the mother's fight, first with the Govt of Norway, then with her heartless husband and in-laws at our courts to get her children's custody. She has been through a lot and emerged victorious.
@Dipanwita Mullick it was the uncle who fought to get the custody of the kids. And there were many other people involved in the fight. It’s just that the mother is trying to catch all the attention she is getting now. Both the parents were irresponsible to some extent. The father accused the mother of being extremely immature and violent at times (report from 2012). The mother surprisingly is now speaking up against her husband. Taking everything with a pinch of salt it is clear that there were problems in the family. It was the uncle who fought to get the custody and brought the children back. A woman doesn’t have to perfect and right all the time. Later Sagarika took away the children from her in-laws. And now she herself stays in Delhi. She can have flaws too. And hence just looking at one side of the story is probably not right. Both the parents are irresponsible and did not set any good example of parenting.
@@nirvana9891 Bull shit , you di not know anything of the case. Better get your facts right. The children were handed over the the uncle because of certain reason. In fact nobody from the fathers family actually wanted the children and the husband had filed for divorce taking advantage of the depression the wife was suffering due to her situation. It was the mother who fought like a tiger and ultimately because of her effort which created a big diplomatic row between lndia and Norway that the Norway Govt agreed to hand the children to the uncle. Without the mother the children would still be in a foster home in Norway. Believe me the father have not even bothered to visit his children in the past 10 years even once .
@Nirvana I've never heard about this case before. I think the film is obviously heavily skewed in favour of the mother. We ofcourse don't know the full story. But I think you don't know either, so it's wrong of you to say she was violent or she is trying to get attention etc. It seems to me she fought hard to get her kids back, and I'm happy she won. Also, I've just read her interview. She stays apart from her kids as she has to work and provide for them and her parents, which to me is commendable. Sometimes, people have to stay where they can find a good job. You appear to view the mother negatively for no reason..and I'm not sure why. Do you work for the Norwegian 'child protective' services?! 😂
@@nirvana9891 The uncle sold his soul for money, a scoundrel he was. We all know what kind of a narcissist psycho that man was (the father). I don’t even want to call him a father or a husband. I hope he got his citizenship because that’s where he belongs 😂
We live in Melbourne, Australia and thankfully Child Protection Services here are not as brutal or insensitive. As a new mother, I always felt so supported and more attention was given to my mental health than the baby. Never heard any fellow Indian parents complain about the system too. Nordic countries don’t have as much multicultural population as Australia, thus they awareness to cultural differences is shockingly poor. They have different system in place & honestly it came as a shock when I saw this movie. It’s inhumane what that poor mother had to go through, I even blame in-laws for further adding to her trauma. Shame on them!
Iam right now in Oslo with a 3 year old child and was very worried about the child welfare cases I heard before.But when I talked with one of my child's teacher in kindergarten,now norwegians know more about Indian culture and they now respect our ways of parenting.But still I believe we have to be careful in Norway
@@FirstnameLastname-cl4op you can discipline your child in many better ways than hitting them and they won’t get spoiled. What you just said there is actually fucked up. Is this normal in India? If so, don’t bother coming here with that backwards culture. Europe doesn’t want it.
@@bigmac8574 - Why are you commenting from anonymous channel? What you got to hide. We aren't SELFISH and alone. Indian culture is about togetherness. And Discipline.
Norway will get a really big backlash and their image will be tarnished forever, once this movie comes out in Theaters. A similar kind of case is also going on with a Jain couple in Germany as well. It is a fact that European countries are racist towards Indians and they have a Western Superiority feeling against the rest of the poplution in the world.
I always heard good things about Norway, how progressive and developed the country was along with the natural beauty. I was not aware of this case until this trailer but my girlfriend told me about this movie and that it was based on the true event. Most of the people around me are really worried now about the condition in Norway and she was saying as it is better to stay in India rather than any other country. I researched about Norway and Bernevernet in the last few days and people from around the world have a very similiar opinion. One person was saying he doesn't plan to visit Norway even for a vacation until all this children are 18. Bernevernet has struck fear in the mind of everyone with the alleged "child abduction". I hope the government tries to improve the condition. Let them not snatch away children for minor reasons as said in the trailer. I hope when I visit Norway sometime in the near future, the condition is far improved. As you guys said, they are learning the cultures so I hope the changes are implemented soon. Dear Norway, try holding on to the reputation you are trying to build.
As a Norwegian I am sorry but I strongly am against your take. The Norwegian child system is way different we take care of our kids way different than yours.
@@Bjornsomelskeris if that was true, then why is there such a strong opposition in Norway of Norwegian experts who have even worked for Barnevernet, who are now asking to shut down the entire system and replace it with a proper child care system? Since 2016 this has also been in the Norwegian media, and no other European country has so many Child welfare cases pending before the European court than Norway. There is no doubt that Norway has a serious problem with the Child welfare system.
@@Bjornsomelskeris l am very thankfull that l was not born in an barbaric country like Norway where they snatch 4 month old breast feeding babies from their mothers laps. By the way l live happily with my parents, wife, 2 kids and my 95 year old grandmom together in my home. Which l think is impossible in Norway. Also for your kind information Norway holds the record of the maximum number of suicides, depression and mental illness in whole of Europe and also the Child protection system is Norway is having more cases filled. against them in the Europian Human rights courts than the whole of Europe put together and they have lost more than 80% of these cases. Norway child protection system is nothing but a racket involving hundreds of millions of dollar where the case officers are paid higher if they can book more cases. I am really ashamed that a barbaric country like Norway is allowed to do so much Human Right abuses on the Culturally/ Religious minority in their country.
I don't know man 😅. But Europe seems horrible, cold blooded white and dark 🐻❄️ place. Muze to bahar ka khana hajam hi nai hota. I'm happy to be in my comfort place with my family 💖. Especially my mom. I have never imagined this.
Right bro pehle hmne newzeland ke bare me suna tha ki sbse safe country hai but bad me logo ne btaya ki wha bhi bhaut crime hote hai mafia raj chlta hai
they look down on co sleeping because of Sudden Infant Deth Syndrome.. because in the west moms could have had alcohol, weed or anti depressants or anxiety medication before sleep so that could be in deep sleep and roll over the baby.. moms in west also don’t have maids or family that help them after pregnancy so they are usually very tired week and exhausted
But in India woman usually don't take alcohol And in India there is a system of giving birth to child in maternal house So her mom will take care of her daughter and daughters child They stay in maternal home for 3 or 4 months after delivery
I watched the movie today and what I feel is that none of the rational that you guys shared justifies whatever the child care system has done stands inhumane and nothing to contribute to the "interest of a child" even if only consider the information or interviews of Norway's representative available in public domain. After watching your video I feel is that you also approves the functioning or existence of child care system, which is unfortunate since you guys are also Indians but later realised that you guys also have a kid and you also have to zip your mouth about the hawks or rather the vultures.
India's civilisation is very old and of various stages of the ages. We noticed from various comments of different nationals that the officials of bernevrnet are awfully shallow about not only India but also about countries worldwide. The English lady(whose husband was Norwegian) knows nothing about the Britishers loot of Indian wealth for more than 200years. She doesn't even know that the western countries were never invited by India but the pirates from those western countries came to loot India.
I saw the trailer as an advertisement between one of my youtube videos and I instantly thought about you guys. Honestly, it has been my dream to build atleast one restaurant down in Norway. I was researching about the lifestyle and culture down there and that's how I came across you guys and became a part of your little youtube family. And that's what made me worried after I saw the trailer. Anyway, thank you for putting out content that actually matters and I hope I could meet you once I plan my trip.
Actually Anirban is a great and amazing Bengali actor.😘😘❤️❤️ It's based on a Indian Bengali family whose living in Norway. And yes proudly i know whole story. But still to interest to watch this movie.. 😘❤️😘😘🙏🏽🙏🏽 By the way Jimmy also an amazing actor. Love to see him after many years....👏🏽👏🏽
Alot of Somalias went though this kind of cases ...Am proud that at list India people got government that supports them ,...we need such movies to be awareness all over the world ...
@Aroow S I know somali woman whose her children was taken by the government. She was pregnant with her 4 and they took a minute after giving birth. The two parent went through so many difficult times. It was because one of the children fall from the stairs and he was dead. How can they know what is gonna happen. The couple divorced and the husband went prison and the wife got truma. She can't even go outside. Really mentally and emotionally
Many western country thinks giving new born baby a seperate room is good but that's why they never have attachment n bonding. Baby n Kids needs that warmth n feeling if security from parents.
Which western country specifically l? Even in Norway it isn't illegal to sleep in the same bed as one's parents , it's the retarded Barnevernet that has an issue with it. Either that or the parents were lying.
The movie has focused more on culture rather than the domestic violence in the family. Norwegian child protection definitely identified signs with the son, must have been in distress. The husband used to beat his wife broke her hand n all this must have happened in front of the son. The son must have mentioned to his teacher in school that's when child protection got involved. The family has twisted this case to get sympathy from indian public putting it down to culture. Same like Ariha case, the child's genetial was torn but parents putting the focus on culture.
Hi Hazel... Even if we assume there was domestic violence, did the authorities counsel the parents? Did they give any deadline after which they would take away the child? Please answer my simple question... what was the need for taking the infant away from her mother who still needed breast feeding. Genitial injury could be due to an accident too....What does doctor's report say? Above all, why should any parents allow someone else to tell them how to raise their kid... Absolutely bizarre law... I think there is some state supported scam behind this kid of act...
@TECHNOtainment .... there are so many Indians in Norway.. all their kids are taken by child protection is it? Logical thinking will answer your queries. Child safety is number one priority in first world countries. There is more to this that sagarika is hiding. she twisted it to suit her. The child showed signs of distress that off banging his head. As for Ariha.. tearing of genital doesn't happen with accidents. Why did the grandmother lie that her nail cut the child's genital. Why wasn't the grandfathers DNA not done? Why were the grandparents sent overnight back to India? They were the ones looking after the child in the parents absence. Easy for people like you to defend the perpetrators that's why so many cases in India go unnoticed. Use logic, n don't go based on emotions that the parents are showing to the public.
I'm a Norwegian and I and my partner feed our 2 y/o son by hand all the time?? I had no idea about this, this is actually absurd (if it is true it is racist and ignorant too since many cultures do not use cutlery!!) I also co-sleep with my son since he was 6 months old. It was discouraged for infants, to prevent SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome), but with a big bed and seperate cover it's fine. We got a phamplet on sleeping safety when he was born. I am so sorry for the hardship these parents had to suffer through... I am sorry my country gave so much trauma, I always thought it was better than this.
Å mate og sove sammen med barnet ditt er ikke noe problem. Denne filmen handler om en sak fra 2013, der moren mishandlet barna sine. Filmen er en total misrepresantasjon av barnevernet.
In this case the accusations are documented. Not every case is the same, but the lady who went through the ordeal has written an article in India today. There are many cases of children being taken away from Norwegian homes too.
Norway has a good PR team they go on declaring themselves as happiest , something like mutual admiration society , also I don’t think you guys can be fair , since that place gives you bread & butter . Honestly I found it useless , woh kya accha mante hai doesn’t matter , there should be mutual respect for other cultures
As we do not force any rules on foreigners staying here in India regarding how they practice their culture, similarly Norway too should respect other country citizens culture..I agree incase of actual abuse etc it can be helpful..but enough said this is a very sensitive topic..taking children away from parents is unthinkable
India has a massive population. And so the Indian government, constitution and law does not place much value on the lives of Indian kids (or adults for that matter). Historically, parts of India had a culture of female infanticide and legally there were no penalties for that. Coming to a more recent day and age, the Women and Child Welfare Ministry has done very little to even stop chronic sexual abuse in government and private orphanages and child homes. You often read about the horrible mid-day meals given to young students in government schools. When the government does not care about successfully running it's own government organizations why would they make rules about how parents raise their children? Norway has a very small population compared to India, and is an economically developed nation. THEY HAVE A CAPITALIST ECONOMY BUT A SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT. The Scandinavian nations all have FREE HEALTHCARE FOR ALL ITS CITIZENS and A YEAR LONG maternity/paternity leave programs (49 weeks with 100% coverage, or 59 weeks with 80% coverage). Does India have any such health are or maternity leave programs? So let us not compare India and Norway's systems!
@@statesman01 The medical system in Norway is far worst than in lndia. I think you have never lived in Norway or you would not have said it. Sometimes it takes weeks to just get an appointment with a doctor in Norway. I have been to Norway so do not bull shit.
My son co sleeps with me even though I want him to sleep in a separate room. He said he cant sleep without a back rub and he's having bad dreams when alone...Thank God I refused a job in Norway as a Nurse..
@Namaste from norway, i know you have no choice to say anything negative about barneveret as you live in Norway and i understand that. But just imagine if it happend to your kid, you will obviously go to any extent to get them back. Can you ever imagine someone take your kids away from you? We need to support indian brothers and sisters all around the world. Thats the unity these westeners wont ever have.
I only speak Ukrainian. I am using google translator. Therefore, please excuse me if the translation is bad! I am from Western Ukraine. I am a nurse and I save lives. I live now in Germany. I need a lawyer to file, with other disabled citizens of Ukraine, a lawsuit against Norway. My husband, a Ukrainian (oil worker, human rights activist) became disabled as a result of his defense of the rights of other people (Norwegian and Russian media for 9 years). My husband fought corruption in the Russian oil giant, which was headed by the founder of the 6th Directorate of the FSB and the ex-Chancellor of Germany. My husband defended the rights of disabled people and Ukrainians in Norway against Russian-speaking citizens of this NATO country. The Norwegians took my disabled husband to Moscow AFTER: anti-war pickets of my husband in the Russian Federation, his defense of the rights of Ukrainians in Norway, the issuance of documents to my husband by the Norwegian Red Cross for his close relatives (Polish servicemen repressed by the Russians), sentencing his defender to prison (in married to a citizen of Finland for 25 years) in Belarus, who reported the crime of the Norwegians against the Ukrainians and was recognized as a Political prisoner. My husband and his lawyer warned the Norwegians about the coming war, but they did not believe him. The husband was kidnapped and the war began. And after the war began, the Norwegians do NOT admit their mistakes! Unlike the Swedes, the Norwegians DO NOT LIKE to admit their mistakes even when the Chechen refugees deported by the Norwegians were killed in the Russian Federation (Norwegian media)...
Having watched this movie also watched a close indian friend going through this situation.. I must say this exactly their protocol .. my friend said you cant be emotional infront of kids , my friend was told "stop it" for her indian way of pampering(to be precise for saying indian rhyming wordz like gulu gulu ).. its the reality every small move of your is judged ..
What a sick society and culture these Norwegian have. No doubt they were considered as barbaric pirates and uncivilized by other Europeans throughout history.
I just saw the movie and I hurt watching the mother.. then I read the statements about the real case, with the mother accused for slapping her infant as a means of correction, locking them in a room while showering and cooking. Her boy reacting in fear when she raised her hand while the authorities visited. Placing her infant on surfaces not intended for diaper changes, causing her infant to fall down etc. None of this was mentioned in the movie. So. Remember it’s a movie. It’s not just “cultural differences” aka., hand feeding, sleeping together and kohl. Sleeping with your kids is not even uncommon in skandinavia what so ever. If she was as pure as in the movie I doubt her case would have had to go through three countries. I know there are corrupt people but that many, in so many different places? I don’t think so. I just hope they made the right decision giving them back to her.
Thank you for an intelligent and well balanced comment finally.There are child safety laws in western countries. There is a reason why they were made. You should be aware of the law and respect their lawa when you move to their countires.
The children are quite grown up now and they are doing perfectly fine. The daughter is very good in her studies and is a very good dancer but the son who was born autistic is doing ok but and is studying in a school for children with special needs. The mother is living in Noida ( Near Delhi) but the children are living with their maternal grandparents in a place near Kolkata. The mother (Whose actual name is Sagarika Chakroborty) has a Bachelors degree in Computer Application and a Masters degree in Management . I am really thankfull to God that she has got her children back otherwise the life of both the mother and the children under foster care would have been destroyed like most of the children who are raised in foster homes turn out to be depressive and drug adicted misfits in society. Shame on the Norwegian society for destroying so many families. Really disgusting people these Norwegians are.
I was just planning to do my masters in computers but after reading a lot about how Norway Govt will take Foreigners kids away from parents . the Barnevernet takes around 1,500 children away from their parents every year.
Good that you both brought this up. I very closely followed this case and it felt heartwretching to see the parents go through so much. Im in Norway now and Im a single parent. So, you can imagine the pressure. Luckily, my children are grown up now (12&8) and I've brought them up quite independent compared to Indian standards (and not privileged enough to pamper them either). In a way, for majority of the Indian parents the Norwegian rules may look really harsh. But, my point here is hitting children or abusing them physically is quite wrong. Also, domestic violence. We Indian parents lack patience I feel. (On a lighter note) I'm working on it myself too because as children grow up you need to have more patience to be responsible parents 😀.
Spare the rod & spoil the monkey. Disciplining kids even corporally is good, just don't go too far. If you do not hit them when they do not behave - they will end up as spoiled brats, girls will end up as you know what - it is guaranteed. I have dated enough of these 'spoiled girls' & they are not marriage material girls for sure.....as much 'fun' as they were. Don't raise your girls to end up like that.
It's not a single case that happened in Norway or scandinavian countries or to say only happened with Indian parents.. Norway's child welfare got criticised by so many PPL there are books written about this..there are documentry about it...there are so many articles about it.. If so many PPL around the world almost said or made serious comments like child trafficking then there must be something wrong with the system...
It's not just the system, it's the Norwegian mentality. We have this very ingrained self-image of being the "good guy". As such people have a very difficult time staying objective when it comes to children, so even a slight suspicion often spirals out of control and people lose their objectivity, this is also true for people who have this as a profession, and subsequently the politicians that make the rules, and so on. Eventually the whole system turns into a toxic overprotective parent. Combine this with a culture that has lost a lot of it's humanity in favour of outward appearance, political correctness, and psychological dogma, and you got a recipe for disaster. Think of the Southpark episodes where everyone gets worked up screaming "think of the children!!" when in reality there is nothing negative happening to the children. Weirdly it also seems to have the opposite effect, when something actually really bad is happening to children they have difficulty believing it's true, don't know what to do about it, and end up closing their eyes to it. That has also happened many times in Norway, serious horrible abuse being reported again and again, and they don't believe it because the people that it has been reported too has lived such sheltered lives that they simply can't accept something so horrible as being something that could really happen. So serious cases get ignored, while relatively minor issues are blown out of proportion.
"Hitting children or abusing them physically ist quite wrong"-totally agree! I do recall, however, that my own mother would pinch my arm (not very hard, but still I could feel it) if I had done something wrong, anyway it never hurt me. Or even a LIGHT slap with her hand. Not sure if the child care authorities these days would consider it inappropriate- if so; I would describe it as hysteria! there are cases, however, where a child SHOULD be taken away from its mother, as brutally as it may seem. One of my dear cousins, she is today 50 yrs old, she herself a mother, was adopted to my uncle from Denmark when she was very little. She today expresses a lot of LOVE for her adoptive parents, she sais she holds no grudge against her mother (which she has never seen), who was an alcoholic.
@@bjrnjensen7074 I'm sorry, but if you are pinching your children as punishment, what the hell? It sounds like you defend physical punishment. Those who physically punish their children should not be allowed agency over another individual, they don't have rights over another human being, that human being deserves respect. Would you pinch an older person because they don't listen to you? No that would be abuse, and you know it.
They need to live in Norway with their child, It's obviously they won't be opening up too much and also they need to earn money through you tube from Indians so they had to give some information hence they kept the whole conversation low. But after reading so many articles and watching videos I now know that, if you are in Norway and at any point if you feel that you are being watched or asked questions about your kids, take the first flight and fly to India, don't even pack your bags.
@@sonalmeshram1089 Im a british born Indian so i wont know as much as ppl living in india but if you was right then just being indian would be enough to let couples adopt in india which we both know isn’t the case
@@mujahidal-deen2195 Because of Indian Constitution and Indian Judiciory only the couple get back their children which was not possible in Norway government.
@@sonalmeshram1089 that might be the case but my point is still fair. How migrants are treated in Europe is how muslims are treated in india. Dont get mad at me, im just saying what i see
Tum log khud ko indian bolna band karo khud ko Norwegian hi Bola karo india ka naam badnaam maat karo khud ko indian bolke. bache chori karne wale logo ko justify karte hue sharm nahi aati Pata nahi dusro ke bachho ke Sath kya kya karte Honge ye log .
A country which has “no” in their name suggests that this is a no go country. Africa is far better that ways. Or any third world country for that matter. This movie is an eye opener for many, so Norway should be a no/no country to make home for Indians….. This movie would be a eye opener for everyone planning to make Norway their home…..
I know somali woman whose her children was taken by the government. She was pregnant with her 4 and they took a minute after giving birth. The two parent went through so many difficult times. It was because one of the children fall from the stairs and he was dead. How can they know what is gonna happen. The couple divorced and the husband went prison and the wife got truma. She can't even go outside. Really mentally and emotionally damage. The Norwegian government have other secret purposes
Glad that Bollywood made this movie … Scandinavian countries do not kidnap only the Indian children but also Arab and African children. an Iraqi father committed suicide because the instance of Sweden took his 9 children! May god help all the immigrants to protect their children
Can anyone explain why exactly the child was taken away by the child protective services? I've no idea but if it involved physical abuse I don't think it's wrong to take the child away. I have no idea, so anybody who knows why it happened, I'll appreciate your reply.
So I did some research. Turns out it was because of being handfed and sleeping in the same bed. The taking away of children sounds unjustified to me coz it's not abuse and merely a cultural difference UNLESS I'm missing something. Regardless one has to obey the rules of a country , whether they resonate with someone or not. People are most welcome to return to their home country if they don't want to follow the rules. But this doesn't sound like abuse to me atleast. If anyone knows more about the case , let me know
@@bauabh The problem is: What people in general know about the case is based on rumors and the media. Because aurthories are not allowed to tell details, as it is confidential. This means we will never get the full and detailed picture of the case. I am norwegian and i also coslept with my children when they were small. Many people do that, as many people see it as a way to create healthy bonding and a healthy emotional development. One reason it is not recommended by som health staff is that in some cases (big pillows, etc) it gives an increased risc of sudden infantdeath.
@@hba2019 Yeah then we unfortunately mayn't be able to get the full picture. In our culture, it's pretty common to cosleep at a young age and handfeeding etc. I don't support physical violence on the child as a means to discipline even though this was quite common when I was growing up. My parents were different from others in this. They didn't use physical punishment. I won't say they've never hit but they've used physical force to such a low extent that when I compare it to how others around me were brought up , I would say they never hit me at all. It's kinda weird about sudden infant deaths happening with pillows or something. Parents made the kids sleep with them as it was also more safe to do so. Dang- I can't even think of making a little kid sleep in a crib alone. Though it changes with time. Maybe when the kid is around 9-10 you can encourage the kid to sleep alone for making the kid more independent and all. But overall if the kids were taken away bcz of cultural differences , it seems like a dick move. But if they were being physically abused or something, it was perfectly valid. And even if it was the cultural differences , Norway can make whatever rules it wants and they can take the kids away due to cultural differences- but I don't support it ofc
@@hba2019 Btw I forgot say that I love Norway and it's my favourite Scandinavian country. I mean it's the best country. So if I had the opportunity to immigrate, I would definitely move to Norway
One on the team in 2011 ( now retired ) said in 1 newspaper the these children was not taken as described in this movie ( mum hand feed them and kids slept in her bed ). He said it wasn't due to cultural differences. But it was because high level of conflict between the parents. But I am 100% sure that isn't true. It's racism, and discrimination. Maybe the parents had 1 argument ? Than they twist it to high level conflict. It's a sick society, but that's how child protection services in Norway actually are.
Even "Last Week Tonite" by John Oliver - Show in USA spoke on this same topic and they are also have our same opinion as Indians. Repect children n keep children with parents
Nicely protected as you are leaving in Norway. 😂 But this fact that child welfare in Norway does heal a lot of human rights violation and in UN and EU lots of cases are pending. I would say they need to understand what family means. I would say Norway is not safe for parents and children as well because they are thinking giving money to the maintainers means they are going to give love 😅.
If you pinch or slap your child, yes your child will be removed because their rights trump your right to pinch or slap a child. If you don't like that, get out of Norway.
Do Norway has home school option for kids? Like here in the USA child can study till high school in a home school setting. Even interested parents can pass few exams to be licensed as home school teachers. Large number of kids opt for home schooling and they come out really good. Looks like Norway is not high on ranking on human development index as it claims. High standard of living is just not limited to physical comforts, and basic necessities, it also means importance of passing on values to next generation. If having less toys can be a determining factor in child's future or if country's child development dept. thinks having less clothes or space would hinder child's abilities then they should really look at the Asian countries and how they are thriving. If their system is that good then ''how many CEOs are coming out of Norway'' ….' How many Entrepreneur or which country leads in innovation'' ……..
no, it dont think it have home school option.. If it could be there then it will be another reason to welcome cws at home . in school, kindergarten , children are watched closely by the authority whether to inform cws or not. There is a fear in every indians parents here with regard to their kid...Ranking on Human Development Index is something in real doubt because too many loopholes is there in the system.. Medical sucks, Middle year coming parents cant send their child to kindergarten due to unavailability of seat resulting to child being at home with parents , long procedure for kid admission,.etc..It is not same what is portrayed in Google..
No. NORWAY has no home school option. In Norway by law all children have to go to school. If your child is away from school ( tp much ), the school will call the child protection services. It's even not legal to take your kids out of school for holiday ( it's cheaper flights when school break is over ).
This is not based on a true story. Its basically based on the mothers perspective. The Norway embassy said, it had nothing to do with feeding the baby wrong or sleeping in the same room with the kids, but its confidential they couldn't tell the real reason. I wish we could read the investigation paper from the social services.
Its more common for small children to share a bed with parents than not in Norway. Also, all court documents are open to the public in Norway. If you know the date and court you can easily access the full record and not just the parents side of the story.
This kind of cases are tried in a special court (Fylkesnemnda), and they are confidential. Child Welfare Services (Barnevernet) are also bound by rules of confidentiality. So no, you cannot access the documents and details beyond what the parents have told the media.
Jerks like the ambassador of Norway criticized the movie blaming that it showed only one side of the story. Ask that jerk who is going to tell his side of the story? . Because of the privacy law he says it cannot be disclosed . So why the hell he keeps saying it is a fictional movie. If his own ass went through this he would have understood the pain. Most immigrants especially Indian are highly qualified and educated people coming from good families and good culture. It is not the immigrant getting the benefit of a job in Norway but the Norway itself is getting top notch educated talents to give that country their talents. Why do you think America is number one country in the world? It is all because it attracts the top notch talents all across the world and respects their culture. Trashy countries like Norway will never ever learn that and once their natural petroleum resources are depleted it will be a country of slums.
Co-sleeping relates Touch therapy. I am the witness. Our kids slept with us in the beginning. I went another place for project for a month, son was unwell. Doctor investigated and said, he just needs a hug from father. He is sad. I came home, he stuck with my chest for 10 minutes, cheered up. Ate from my hands which is objectionable to Norway. He was all fit the next day and started all notorious stuff. In movie, investigators objected mother's tears make child weak and emotional. All rubbish. The same son who stuck to my chest 15 years ago is now a young man and working in Canada while we are in India. Is there any emotional barrier in his growth ?? NO ... Nope. Norway has rules and who made them, a group of people in power. How can they claim they are 100% perfect. If they are making a perfect new generation then why are they holding the 28th position in the world economy.
You have taken such a diplomatic stand...but theek hai, you guys live their; you would not like to invite any problem for you guys just for a video....
Yes i agree with you... One person in the comment section literally threatening indirectly by saying does your Norway employer know about your stand about Norway... Although i called out him but i don't see my comment there anymore bcz this channel might have thought it may put him dangerous situation
I've seen so many YT videos TikTok videos of mother's, parents who co-sleep with their children up to a certain age. My little sister was very attached to my parents when she was younger and would get really scared of sleeping alone at night even though we shared a room at the time.. so she basically slept with them until 5-6 years old. The only time she felt safe and could sleep without crying at night was with my parents only.
Yes it's Bollywood and little bit exaggerated...i feel little biased ness in your voice but I can understand why..but kaunsa parenting thik ye decide karne ka haq kisi ko bhi nhi hai..I mean haat se khilana matlab force eating cosleep matlab neend me disturb just because wo eisa samajhte hain doesn't mean that's correct..indus culture tab se hai jab inlogo ko kapde bhi pehen ne nehi ATI thi...it's just their ignorance..
Under any circumstances taking a baby that needs breast feeding, from parents is not accepted in any part of the world. U both also don't want to spell out the truth as u don't want to say anything against their rule or county, nahi.
Im sorry but the story just doesnt quite add up. 1. She told social services her husband didnt help and then told others he abused her. 2. She told everyone that all the accusations were lies and says they took the children because she was feeding by hand (not verified by anyone else). 3. The school and the other parents has made complaints about her. Again she says theyre all lies. 4. Her husband says she had Psycological issues. Is it me or has this entire movie based on solely her words ? Shame the Norwegian governement cant go into detail as Im sure some things would come into the limelight.
True story of the movie is 'SOFT HINDUPHOBIA' practiced by europians for long. Does it have undertone of their re ligion, want of con version through posing as superior?
What are you talking about? Most people in Norway don't follow any religion i.e. they don't go to church, don't pray, and don't follow religious rituals. Just because they are White does not mean they are Christian and out to convert desis.
If that was the case, then Dharmics shouldn't go to Europe. Dharmics break the rules of their own religion regarding caste pollution and flood into mleccha territories, then whine about Hinduphobia.
This story was 10yrs ago. But if you see comments section below the trailer,it is still pretty active. This is ridiculous to justify or defend the circumstances.
We recently moved to Norway from Portugal, and all of sudden, this movie is going to release. We also have a 3-year-old kid, and I am scared and concerned for him 😳 please suggest something
I think keep asking your child, what happened in school so will know who's watching. At any point if you feel that you are being watched or asked questions about your kids, take the first flight and fly to India, don't even pack your bags.
Get out of that backward country. Live in your own country and go through all the hardships as a family but please 🙏🏼 don’t stay in that backward filthy malicious Scandinavian countries. If you really want to migrate to a developed country,,move to a country like Australia where the new mothers get all the support and more attention.
This is B(H)ollywood, so it's a lot of drama. The reason for "Barnevernet" taking action in the first place, was that the relationship between the parents was very toxic, and this had been reported several times to the authorities. If the parents had been normal, loving parents this would never had happened. Read interview with Gunnar Toresen, who was the leader of Barnevernet in Stavanger at the time.
Barnetvernet kan ikke ta bort barna fra foreldrene med mindre de blir utsatt for vold, maktmisbruk eller overgrep. Jeg kan virkelig ikke skjønne hvordan du tenker at vi skal synes synd på foreldrene som mishandler barna sine.
First of, I work with children as a youthclub leader and I have reported cases to the child welcare office, as I am required to if I suspect something wrong have happend. That said ... one of the cases I did report was about grooming and the guy got sentenced for this too... grooming youth to achieve sex with them. My experience with childwelfare office is that no ... they don't come and take your children unless there really really is reasons for it, if I send a report it does not nessesary means that they will forget it, they will investigate and before they take the children away they will seek out other options like talks with the parents, regular checkups to see if what they tell the parents are followed... in the end its the sum of all reports that matters before they take children away, and the rule are that it have to benefits the child. That said, we have had several cases where childwelfareoffice have lost ... think there is over 30 cases ... so it happens that they do wrong, lets be honest about that, but also remember that they have a very very strict confidensiality clause so they can't talk about cases in public ... so always when you see these cases come in the news it is always from the perspective of one side only, the parents ... it would be like lissening to Putin or Hitler why their war happens ... should we believe them ? or be skeptical.
Well I understand you concern and really appreciate that the kids that really need helps get help .but in that case just taking away your child on cultural differences is so wrong .and i am not talking about punishment and all i am against that . But difference in festival and hand feeding your kids or giving them love is wrong because you feel that your way of raising kid is the only right thing then i must say I am hugely disappointed in European countries . You should maintain a free and transparent method of doing the process and give other party freedom and chance to prove there point .there can be a case where you would be snatching a happy lovey family from a child just because you don't think there culture is any better to raise a kid .
Well in the name of confidential clause you guys do get away with everything.... I don't know much about the confidentiality of other cases but in this particular case Norway's ambassador to india avoided the question... News anchor specifically asked on which specific things did the child welfare found wrong, whatever it was hand feeding, co sleeping,... Ambassador avoided the question by saying that it's confidential and can't discuss it .. I mean i understand that you can't go into the details of ongoing sensitive case but atleast you can give the basics of the case ...and the most basic thing was the case what's is the wrong did the parents did... It's like police arrest you and keeping you for years and don't giving the reason of your arrest... Did not it sound like dictatorship... Same with child welfare system.. it's more like child trafficking which got legal licence to kidnap
@@AkashSingh-nf5ey the confidential clause I have and that most people who work on children have is very very strict, for example the school are not allowed to tell me about if there is something wrong with any of the students that I have in my care at the youthclub ... unless the parents says its okey. That gives me problem because I have youths that can have some very special needs and I don't get to know about it even. About that movie ... as far as I know because of what the parents have told it seems very very unreasonable, but then again, I don't know if this is correct right ? after all its only what the parents told that we get to hear of. But as I said, I am sure there are cases where the children should never have been taken away ... and its bad, and as I said .. there are about 30 cases where Norway have lost at the European Human Right Court.... so it happens. But the whole child trafficing calling are unfair and wrong, its being laid out like that to bad mouth the government while they still know well that the child welfare office can't talk against it. Claims like this only makes it a bad case to begin with, its not a good way to create a debate about it.
@@captainbolt1864 I can tell you this, as a kid growing up in the 70's it was actually allowed to give us a claps or something like that, not that it happend to me tough but I was in a leash to the stairs and I am not so sure that would have been accepted in todays society to be honest but it was to save me tough ... I had a nasty habbit of running at cars and even one time got run over by a car.... no big damages tough. As with that case that the movie portray, yeah ... hand feeding should not in my view mean that they take the kids away it seems like someone did not do their job there, but it depends on that is the whole case after all we don't know do we... But in general our children do have a very very high level of security and rules for the parents to follow ... some are possible too high maybe I don't know, I don't have kids myself.
Your Confidentiality cause just because there is nothing really to talk about . You are saying that you will snatch a child from her/his parents just because you think something is wrong which is actually not wrong and the parents or the public doesn't even have the right to know the reason. And don't compare Hitler or Putin with the mother case, because the world sees Putin or Hitler as someone who started the war so when you compare Putin, Hitler perspective with the parents you are basically saying that the parents were in fault, whatever the parents said were lies and you people are good . It's just shows what type of mentality you people have.
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In this particular case I felt that the biggest red flag was the attitude of the husband towards his wife and his family. However, reaction of the mother when her kids are snatched from her is pretty normal. BV was trying to prove her mentally unstable due to her reactions is insensitive. Nonethrless, this was not a lone case. Although my knowledge is based on the documentries and media reports, i was taken aback by some of the caess. Firstly, as of today BV has lost 43 out of 46 cases highlighting the one sided and inappropriate treatment by BV. I also came across cases where the kid was taken away bcoz it was one pound lighter, there were cases where financial condition of the family was a concern (when love and care from parents should matter) etc. Why cant bv vhange their strategy to consultstion rsther than breaking the families, hiw is it that that all the foster fsmiloes are doing good and never going wtong, and why dont they ask people to leave Norway (it should be the headache of people's country of citizenship then). As i find through the documentries thst some people are just waiting in norway to get their kids back (bad, bad, bad). Please shed light on these matters if possible!
I literally have OPENED my eyes about Norway. No one is better than anyones or have the right to tell them how to love their children. This woman clearly love her kids and yet, we, in any country, appoint AHOLES to destroy family
The Norwegian government and agencies did not understand Indian culture in 2011? I am speechless and disgusted with people who sell their loyalties for petty gains (Shah se zyada shah se wafadar). Using hand for hygienic food is unhygienic to them and putting unhygienic things in their mouth is hygienic - this is their culture and sums up everything. Miss Smt. Sushma Swaraj Ji for all the good work she did, may her soul rest in peace.
I have just come back from watching this movie, its an amazing realistic film, it shows the human side of law enforcement the struggle of indian mother abroad, laws are always made with pure and honest intentions everywhere around the world but its implementation is something which has scope of loot
You are very wrong about laws being made pure and honest LAWS are designed to keep the powers that be in power and to ostracize the poor and unfortunate there was no humanely justification or right to take her children and give them to other ( strangers ) people
In that case, please don't marry. Because after that you and your parents will expect that poor girl to love and serve your family exactly like you do. Stay single and be a Shravan Kumar to your parents but don't marry and expect your wife to be a Shravan Kumar to your parents as well.
@@statesman01You are telling just the opposite , l have seem many more people living in joint families living happily than small couple families. In fact nowadays majority of the nuclear families are disintegrating leading to divorce. As most women are working nowadays there are clashes between the couple regarding the time they spend on their family. I know of many women who tell me that they will be much more happy living in a joint family.
Not only Indian as a Somalian we do same co sleep and feeding by hand If I don’t feed my kids with my hand I don’t feel the kids are satisfied the food
I expected you to say that the accusations against the Child Services in Norway are completely false and that the media hyped it up too much. However, the way you have presented this is very worrying.
It is indeed VERY worrying what's going on in Norway. Hear from a Norwegian Psychologist who once worked for the Child welfare system: ua-cam.com/video/jBfDdtokaSA/v-deo.html
co-sleeping is very good for the child for scientific reasons. highly recommended by doctors. Apparently, norway is backward still.
Co sleeping is now encouraged in the US by doctors as well. Norway's children seem to be suffering of both cold climate and cold parents
Yes and same with eating with hands. Everyone is backward according to the goras
There are pros and cons for co sleeping. Norway is not backwards as it`s been done in Norway for 100`s of years. But! there are dangers involved with co sleeping especilly when they are infants. like suffocations. Norway was plagued with alot of crib deaths wich is why the health departments is informing about safty rules when co sleeping.
The parents are claming that its Why the lost custody of the kids the children safety are saying that it was serious problems in the family roughly translated. So don’t just jump in the bandwagon and think they are perfect
If you are a deep sleeper you could suffocate and kill the child accidentally.
This has been based on a true story. A mother went through great trauma being separated by her children. She was declared unstable. I think they were consulted before making this movie. I cannot imagine the nightmare she went through. I will not undermine or diminish her anguish in anyway.
Exactly my thoughts, so well said.
Absolutely
She was mentally ill and was abusing her kids.
@@Magst3r1 in ur dreams 😂
It was inspired by true events and took a lot of creative liberties the government of Norway issued a statement and there is evidence of physical assault in the original cased. This movie turned the real person into a martyr which is not entirely true
As a Norwegian born and raised, it would be so painful for me to not sleep with my parents a lot. Currently 26 years old, and I really needed to sleep together with my parents for many years because I had nightmares that kept happening even tho I was half awake, so I needed a friendly body to hold around me.
@অচেনা একজন The authorities does not try to have anything to do with our private life at all, unless concerns from others are brought up. Probably what happened in these peoples case. Never heard about anything like this when and where I grew up. Some places might be more strict, but I grew up in the countryside. I currently live 7 hours by train away from most of my family, but I often visit! Stayed here for 7 years now, after studying for 3 years and then working. My brother's family is half Turkish and have no problem at all when he usually sleep with their kids. His wife is a teacher also. When I hear about stuff talked about in this movie, it breaks my heart because it is so horrible and unnecessary.
@অচেনা একজন Yeah same! Just wanted to convey that it is not a culture thing, the situation was a situational law incident. Take care and good luck!!
Barnevernet takes away kids as a first resort and not the last
@@navinshringi4608 Yup, took my brother without giving proper papers that were mailed days later! & They never checked the anon/witnesses background(as some were known as thieves, liars, drugsaddicts etc) & 1 lady wasn't even concidered to be checked bc "she worked for the heath personel in the government" aka CPS believ they don't lie, have motives, makes mistakes etc bc they're not human laws don't apply to them?!...
Why don't you communicate this to your CPS and Bernevernet
Rani is the master of her craft , whether she’s doing Krav Maga in an action film Mardaani , playing a woman affected by Tourette’s syndrome in hichki , a deaf dumb girl in black or a rich girl from NY singing “Hey Shona” and dancing at Times Square , each and every character is nailed to perfection. Such variety , such a range is unmatched :)
Here in this trailer , her screams tug at our heartstrings :) there will never be another Rani
Thanks guys, we were in Norway (Oslo) too. This incident is true, and one of the strong reasons we did not want to stay in Norway. So once our son was a bit old for school, we moved. Also English is not the first language so difficult to navigate. We had to learn basic level Norwegian. Although the locals that I met were very friendly.
Do they really get paid for for foster childrens?
@@lostsoul4317 my teacher lived in Europe and according to her, the more the children the more is the money given by govt. So yes money might me given for care.
The dad came out later and admitted she suffered post birth depression and abused her children though.
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@@Kjernekar Haha what a joke! He must be craving for a green card so badly to say something like this.
Feeding by hand not allowed?! sounds absurd! my mother would sometimes give me food by hand, not always, and of course not when very soft foods, in that case a spoon is more useful, but it definitely happened. Also, I do recall sleeping between my mother and my father on at least one occasion. Since this is many, many years ago, I don`t remember much, of course . I do remember that I did have my own bed, but it very often happened that I would sleep between my parents. Child care has been controversial here in Norway, and in this case they definitely could have handled things a lot better! I am glad they were convicted at the Human Rights Court in the Netherlands, hopefully they have learnt a lesson. Namaste from Oslo.
It is like if foreigner couple feed their kid with spoon and fork in india then Indian athorities will take their child in custody...
Doing injustice based on cultural differences doesn't make sense... I feel It's cultural intolerance.. Or ignorance.. Or culture supriority complex
Exactly.
I watched the movie today and was really taken back by the level of trauma that mother went through. I’m aware of social services being very vigilant in western countries and had no idea they were this psycho in a country like Norway which apparently stands amongst top 5 happiest countries in the world. Upon researching some more I found there are many other similar cases related to other communities as well which is really sad. Being a parent myself I can’t even imagine going through this with my child so thank god I’m not in Norway or any other similar country with such bull shit laws.
Yes I agree that Western laws can be harsh. They just don’t take into account cultural practices. Everything is looked upon suspiciously in the West.
@@cazdaz3863 Cant we call out the obvious racism?
you think they were psycho? They are even worse in real life, talking from real experience.
the movie is propaganda trough and trough, if you think you lose your kid if you hand feed or sleep together you have lost your mind
@@izznoogood sure, Norway never does propaganda ! you guys are so naive. The entire world is telling you your system is effed up. You cant say "No" back to the world asswipe.
Sometime, last year I read about the life of an Indian woman who was adopted as a baby by a childless Scandinavian couple in the 70s. The husband wanted to adopt the child but the wife was not so keen. The couple anyway adopted her and took her to their country. A few years later the couple divorced. The wife was given custody of the Indian child. She placed the child in an orphanage. So the Indian girl ended up moving from one foster family to another. Some treated her well and some didn't. She ended up getting pregnant at 17 or 18, dropped out of school, married somebody in her early twenties, had more kids, got divorced. Two of her kids now live with her and the other two refuse to even see her because her estranged husband does not want them to see her. She had an extremely tough life. She says that it is quite common for adopted children to go through this type of life when people who have adopted them get divorced.
That's really sad. Wonder why the ex-wife got custody when it was the ex-husband that wanted to adopt? And why didn't he get the kid out of the orphanage? Sounds like a really useless man to me.
I understand the makers of this video are desperate (probably financially) to live in Norway but that doesn't mean they've the right to dilute the facts shared in the movie. This movie opens up a huge number of issues about immigrant family safety and racism that prevails across Norway, Denmark, Germany and other countries in European Union.
#NorwayCultural-Gentrification
I hope you or your friends or your partner had a messed up childhood,Abusive parent .It mess up the wholeee life.Whole country eventually whole civilization.Most of the times messed up children mess other people's life when they grow up.Or else commit suicide or stay in depression.Here in India children get blackmailed, manipulated ,intimidated when they finally want to call child services or police,or tell a neighbour but most of all they never even know where to ask for help.Yes I am from India And It has the worst parenting style generations by generations going on.I have seen lecturing people about Indian parents and their love,I wish It was norway ,many many child's life would have been less traumatic then.Our country would have touched the zenith of development if they had first started with their child system.Because children are the future of a country and A messed up childhood can never ever be healed.
I know about two single mothers, whose children was taken for income sake by other families in Norway. One mother died before her children became adult.
Omg. That's terrible.
Thank god I’m in Australia here community service people come to your house and they are so nice to mother they respect our culture. I remember when my daughter born I told childcare service nurse that my house is messy n I felt embarrassed but she said your health is way more important than anything else and you as a mother knew better for your child then anyone else in this world.
True, I am from Australia, the domiciliary service people are not judgemental but caring and helpful. They respect India culture.
Our thoughts on Mrs.Chatterjee Vs. Norway after watching the movie ua-cam.com/video/HnsR0eVIQas/v-deo.html
Justice for Ariha Shah
Still in captivity of German 🇩🇪 authorities.
Honestly, I am glad that this is coming to light. You have given your very balanced view on this ❣️ (which reflects that you that feel safe) but that's not the case with everyone. This needs to come to the surface. In 2021, the European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) handed down ten judgments against Norway. Norway was convicted in six of them for having violated human rights-all of them dealt with child protection. In total, the ECtHR has handed down 65 judgments against Norway, and the state has been convicted in 43 of these. And 43 is 43 too much. There are so many bad and ugly stories in Norway about this topic-on the part of child protection against children and parents.
Many European countries act in violation of the ECHR, especially when it comes to actions by youth care agencies. Youth care agencies earn millions on the backs of victims. The Youth Services agencies traumatize victims for life just for money and power. This is not fair.
This case became famous in West Bengal as both the parents were Bengalis from Kolkata. You can find lot of material online from old news links that explains the circumstances in detail.It would be wrong to say that the parents fought, it was solely the mother's fight, first with the Govt of Norway, then with her heartless husband and in-laws at our courts to get her children's custody. She has been through a lot and emerged victorious.
@Dipanwita Mullick it was the uncle who fought to get the custody of the kids. And there were many other people involved in the fight. It’s just that the mother is trying to catch all the attention she is getting now. Both the parents were irresponsible to some extent. The father accused the mother of being extremely immature and violent at times (report from 2012). The mother surprisingly is now speaking up against her husband. Taking everything with a pinch of salt it is clear that there were problems in the family. It was the uncle who fought to get the custody and brought the children back. A woman doesn’t have to perfect and right all the time. Later Sagarika took away the children from her in-laws. And now she herself stays in Delhi. She can have flaws too. And hence just looking at one side of the story is probably not right. Both the parents are irresponsible and did not set any good example of parenting.
@@nirvana9891 Bull shit , you di not know anything of the case. Better get your facts right. The children were handed over the the uncle because of certain reason. In fact nobody from the fathers family actually wanted the children and the husband had filed for divorce taking advantage of the depression the wife was suffering due to her situation. It was the mother who fought like a tiger and ultimately because of her effort which created a big diplomatic row between lndia and Norway that the Norway Govt agreed to hand the children to the uncle. Without the mother the children would still be in a foster home in Norway. Believe me the father have not even bothered to visit his children in the past 10 years even once .
@Nirvana I've never heard about this case before. I think the film is obviously heavily skewed in favour of the mother. We ofcourse don't know the full story. But I think you don't know either, so it's wrong of you to say she was violent or she is trying to get attention etc. It seems to me she fought hard to get her kids back, and I'm happy she won. Also, I've just read her interview. She stays apart from her kids as she has to work and provide for them and her parents, which to me is commendable. Sometimes, people have to stay where they can find a good job. You appear to view the mother negatively for no reason..and I'm not sure why. Do you work for the Norwegian 'child protective' services?! 😂
@@nirvana9891 The uncle sold his soul for money, a scoundrel he was.
We all know what kind of a narcissist psycho that man was (the father). I don’t even want to call him a father or a husband.
I hope he got his citizenship because that’s where he belongs 😂
We live in Melbourne, Australia and thankfully Child Protection Services here are not as brutal or insensitive. As a new mother, I always felt so supported and more attention was given to my mental health than the baby. Never heard any fellow Indian parents complain about the system too. Nordic countries don’t have as much multicultural population as Australia, thus they awareness to cultural differences is shockingly poor. They have different system in place & honestly it came as a shock when I saw this movie. It’s inhumane what that poor mother had to go through, I even blame in-laws for further adding to her trauma. Shame on them!
you realize its just exaggeration and propaganda right?
@@izznoogood no you're the propaganda
Iam right now in Oslo with a 3 year old child and was very worried about the child welfare cases I heard before.But when I talked with one of my child's teacher in kindergarten,now norwegians know more about Indian culture and they now respect our ways of parenting.But still I believe we have to be careful in Norway
Just don’t beat your kids and you’ll be fine.
@@bigmac8574 it's part of parenting, otherwise child will be spoiled
@@FirstnameLastname-cl4op you can discipline your child in many better ways than hitting them and they won’t get spoiled. What you just said there is actually fucked up. Is this normal in India? If so, don’t bother coming here with that backwards culture. Europe doesn’t want it.
@@FirstnameLastname-cl4op Western countries laws are based on individuals freedom, u cant force your child to do certain things,
@@bigmac8574 - Why are you commenting from anonymous channel? What you got to hide. We aren't SELFISH and alone. Indian culture is about togetherness. And Discipline.
Norway will get a really big backlash and their image will be tarnished forever, once this movie comes out in Theaters. A similar kind of case is also going on with a Jain couple in Germany as well. It is a fact that European countries are racist towards Indians and they have a Western Superiority feeling against the rest of the poplution in the world.
I always heard good things about Norway, how progressive and developed the country was along with the natural beauty. I was not aware of this case until this trailer but my girlfriend told me about this movie and that it was based on the true event. Most of the people around me are really worried now about the condition in Norway and she was saying as it is better to stay in India rather than any other country. I researched about Norway and Bernevernet in the last few days and people from around the world have a very similiar opinion. One person was saying he doesn't plan to visit Norway even for a vacation until all this children are 18.
Bernevernet has struck fear in the mind of everyone with the alleged "child abduction". I hope the government tries to improve the condition. Let them not snatch away children for minor reasons as said in the trailer.
I hope when I visit Norway sometime in the near future, the condition is far improved. As you guys said, they are learning the cultures so I hope the changes are implemented soon.
Dear Norway, try holding on to the reputation you are trying to build.
As a Norwegian I am sorry but I strongly am against your take. The Norwegian child system is way different we take care of our kids way different than yours.
@@Bjornsomelskeris different.. doesn't mean you have right to snatch away someone's child.
@@Bjornsomelskeris if that was true, then why is there such a strong opposition in Norway of Norwegian experts who have even worked for Barnevernet, who are now asking to shut down the entire system and replace it with a proper child care system? Since 2016 this has also been in the Norwegian media, and no other European country has so many Child welfare cases pending before the European court than Norway. There is no doubt that Norway has a serious problem with the Child welfare system.
@@Bjornsomelskeris l am very thankfull that l was not born in an barbaric country like Norway where they snatch 4 month old breast feeding babies from their mothers laps. By the way l live happily with my parents, wife, 2 kids and my 95 year old grandmom together in my home. Which l think is impossible in Norway. Also for your kind information Norway holds the record of the maximum number of suicides, depression and mental illness in whole of Europe and also the Child protection system is Norway is having more cases filled. against them in the Europian Human rights courts than the whole of Europe put together and they have lost more than 80% of these cases. Norway child protection system is nothing but a racket involving hundreds of millions of dollar where the case officers are paid higher if they can book more cases. I am really ashamed that a barbaric country like Norway is allowed to do so much Human Right abuses on the Culturally/ Religious minority in their country.
@@Bjornsomelskeris you mean legalizing human trafficking 😢
I don't know man 😅.
But Europe seems horrible, cold blooded white and dark 🐻❄️ place. Muze to bahar ka khana hajam hi nai hota. I'm happy to be in my comfort place with my family 💖. Especially my mom. I have never imagined this.
Good we don’t need useless idiots here
Go back. Simple. No one's forcing you to stay in EU
Right bro pehle hmne newzeland ke bare me suna tha ki sbse safe country hai but bad me logo ne btaya ki wha bhi bhaut crime hote hai mafia raj chlta hai
Then Explain why Indians are begging to come here?
Youre one 100% right bro.. im a british born indian so trust me when i say generally western people hate us
After a long term bollywood regained my respect with this movie...
they look down on co sleeping because of Sudden Infant Deth Syndrome.. because in the west moms could have had alcohol, weed or anti depressants or anxiety medication before sleep so that could be in deep sleep and roll over the baby.. moms in west also don’t have maids or family that help them after pregnancy so they are usually very tired week and exhausted
But in India woman usually don't take alcohol
And in India there is a system of giving birth to child in maternal house
So her mom will take care of her daughter and daughters child
They stay in maternal home for 3 or 4 months after delivery
I India we have the culture in West they only have vultures
I watched the movie today and what I feel is that none of the rational that you guys shared justifies whatever the child care system has done stands inhumane and nothing to contribute to the "interest of a child" even if only consider the information or interviews of Norway's representative available in public domain. After watching your video I feel is that you also approves the functioning or existence of child care system, which is unfortunate since you guys are also Indians but later realised that you guys also have a kid and you also have to zip your mouth about the hawks or rather the vultures.
India has gifted the world, particularly western world, many scientific and টেকনোলজিস
India's civilisation is very old and of various stages of the ages. We noticed from various comments of different nationals that the officials of bernevrnet are awfully shallow about not only India but also about countries worldwide. The English lady(whose husband was Norwegian) knows nothing about the Britishers loot of Indian wealth for more than 200years. She doesn't even know that the western countries were never invited by India but the pirates from those western countries came to loot India.
I saw the trailer as an advertisement between one of my youtube videos and I instantly thought about you guys. Honestly, it has been my dream to build atleast one restaurant down in Norway. I was researching about the lifestyle and culture down there and that's how I came across you guys and became a part of your little youtube family. And that's what made me worried after I saw the trailer. Anyway, thank you for putting out content that actually matters and I hope I could meet you once I plan my trip.
I wish u success with ur dreams, are you planning on opening an Indian restaurant?
Actually Anirban is a great and amazing Bengali actor.😘😘❤️❤️
It's based on a Indian Bengali family whose living in Norway. And yes proudly i know whole story. But still to interest to watch this movie.. 😘❤️😘😘🙏🏽🙏🏽
By the way Jimmy also an amazing actor. Love to see him after many years....👏🏽👏🏽
Alot of Somalias went though this kind of cases ...Am proud that at list India people got government that supports them ,...we need such movies to be awareness all over the world ...
hi, could you tell me what happened with somalis?
@Aroow S I know somali woman whose her children was taken by the government. She was pregnant with her 4 and they took a minute after giving birth. The two parent went through so many difficult times. It was because one of the children fall from the stairs and he was dead. How can they know what is gonna happen. The couple divorced and the husband went prison and the wife got truma. She can't even go outside. Really mentally and emotionally
Many western country thinks giving new born baby a seperate room is good but that's why they never have attachment n bonding. Baby n Kids needs that warmth n feeling if security from parents.
Which western country specifically l? Even in Norway it isn't illegal to sleep in the same bed as one's parents , it's the retarded Barnevernet that has an issue with it. Either that or the parents were lying.
The movie has focused more on culture rather than the domestic violence in the family. Norwegian child protection definitely identified signs with the son, must have been in distress. The husband used to beat his wife broke her hand n all this must have happened in front of the son. The son must have mentioned to his teacher in school that's when child protection got involved. The family has twisted this case to get sympathy from indian public putting it down to culture. Same like Ariha case, the child's genetial was torn but parents putting the focus on culture.
Hi Hazel... Even if we assume there was domestic violence, did the authorities counsel the parents? Did they give any deadline after which they would take away the child? Please answer my simple question... what was the need for taking the infant away from her mother who still needed breast feeding. Genitial injury could be due to an accident too....What does doctor's report say? Above all, why should any parents allow someone else to tell them how to raise their kid... Absolutely bizarre law... I think there is some state supported scam behind this kid of act...
@TECHNOtainment .... there are so many Indians in Norway.. all their kids are taken by child protection is it? Logical thinking will answer your queries. Child safety is number one priority in first world countries. There is more to this that sagarika is hiding. she twisted it to suit her. The child showed signs of distress that off banging his head. As for Ariha.. tearing of genital doesn't happen with accidents. Why did the grandmother lie that her nail cut the child's genital. Why wasn't the grandfathers DNA not done? Why were the grandparents sent overnight back to India? They were the ones looking after the child in the parents absence. Easy for people like you to defend the perpetrators that's why so many cases in India go unnoticed. Use logic, n don't go based on emotions that the parents are showing to the public.
It’s really great of Bollywood to bring this as a movie 👏🏻
2 days before, I have watched the trailer of Mrs. Chatterjee vs Norway after that I have started watching #NamastefromNorway 😊.
So sorry for , this happens in Norway every day all year . Thanks for the movie Mrs chatterjee
Good reply
I'm a Norwegian and I and my partner feed our 2 y/o son by hand all the time?? I had no idea about this, this is actually absurd (if it is true it is racist and ignorant too since many cultures do not use cutlery!!)
I also co-sleep with my son since he was 6 months old. It was discouraged for infants, to prevent SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome), but with a big bed and seperate cover it's fine. We got a phamplet on sleeping safety when he was born. I am so sorry for the hardship these parents had to suffer through... I am sorry my country gave so much trauma, I always thought it was better than this.
Å mate og sove sammen med barnet ditt er ikke noe problem. Denne filmen handler om en sak fra 2013, der moren mishandlet barna sine. Filmen er en total misrepresantasjon av barnevernet.
Same things are going on in Sweden too. These so far welfare countries are mostly working against the welfare of us.
In this case the accusations are documented. Not every case is the same, but the lady who went through the ordeal has written an article in India today. There are many cases of children being taken away from Norwegian homes too.
Norway has a good PR team they go on declaring themselves as happiest , something like mutual admiration society , also I don’t think you guys can be fair , since that place gives you bread & butter .
Honestly I found it useless , woh kya accha mante hai doesn’t matter , there should be mutual respect for other cultures
You guys are trying to defend Norway government 🤣🤣🤣🤣
They are still in Norway with their child, you can imagine.
If they don't defend, government will steal their child. 😂😂
As we do not force any rules on foreigners staying here in India regarding how they practice their culture, similarly Norway too should respect other country citizens culture..I agree incase of actual abuse etc it can be helpful..but enough said this is a very sensitive topic..taking children away from parents is unthinkable
India has a massive population. And so the Indian government, constitution and law does not place much value on the lives of Indian kids (or adults for that matter). Historically, parts of India had a culture of female infanticide and legally there were no penalties for that. Coming to a more recent day and age, the Women and Child Welfare Ministry has done very little to even stop chronic sexual abuse in government and private orphanages and child homes. You often read about the horrible mid-day meals given to young students in government schools. When the government does not care about successfully running it's own government organizations why would they make rules about how parents raise their children?
Norway has a very small population compared to India, and is an economically developed nation. THEY HAVE A CAPITALIST ECONOMY BUT A SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT. The Scandinavian nations all have FREE HEALTHCARE FOR ALL ITS CITIZENS and A YEAR LONG maternity/paternity leave programs (49 weeks with 100% coverage, or 59 weeks with 80% coverage). Does India have any such health are or maternity leave programs? So let us not compare India and Norway's systems!
@@statesman01 The medical system in Norway is far worst than in lndia. I think you have never lived in Norway or you would not have said it. Sometimes it takes weeks to just get an appointment with a doctor in Norway. I have been to Norway so do not bull shit.
@@statesman01 taking someone’s child away is ruthless. So yes we will compare.
@@damodaran2629 Public healthcare is shit regardless of country. In India you must have accessed private healthcare.
My son co sleeps with me even though I want him to sleep in a separate room. He said he cant sleep without a back rub and he's having bad dreams when alone...Thank God I refused a job in Norway as a Nurse..
Hats off to you ❤
@Namaste from norway, i know you have no choice to say anything negative about barneveret as you live in Norway and i understand that. But just imagine if it happend to your kid, you will obviously go to any extent to get them back. Can you ever imagine someone take your kids away from you? We need to support indian brothers and sisters all around the world. Thats the unity these westeners wont ever have.
Yes. They are very careful while giving their opinion as they stay in Norway. They have no choice but to support the norwegian system.
You Indian Hindus cry when the Muslims show the same unity across the world yet you exhibit the similar behaviour.
What is the proof that the foster care is giving all the love and there's no abuse there ?
In foster care kids very often end up in drugs and alcohol.
Even if they try they can't. Mother is not only a person, but a emotion & feeling for all. That's can't be replaced by professional.
I only speak Ukrainian. I am using google translator. Therefore, please excuse me if the translation is bad! I am from Western Ukraine. I am a nurse and I save lives. I live now in Germany. I need a lawyer to file, with other disabled citizens of Ukraine, a lawsuit against Norway. My husband, a Ukrainian (oil worker, human rights activist) became disabled as a result of his defense of the rights of other people (Norwegian and Russian media for 9 years). My husband fought corruption in the Russian oil giant, which was headed by the founder of the 6th Directorate of the FSB and the ex-Chancellor of Germany. My husband defended the rights of disabled people and Ukrainians in Norway against Russian-speaking citizens of this NATO country. The Norwegians took my disabled husband to Moscow AFTER: anti-war pickets of my husband in the Russian Federation, his defense of the rights of Ukrainians in Norway, the issuance of documents to my husband by the Norwegian Red Cross for his close relatives (Polish servicemen repressed by the Russians), sentencing his defender to prison (in married to a citizen of Finland for 25 years) in Belarus, who reported the crime of the Norwegians against the Ukrainians and was recognized as a Political prisoner. My husband and his lawyer warned the Norwegians about the coming war, but they did not believe him. The husband was kidnapped and the war began. And after the war began, the Norwegians do NOT admit their mistakes! Unlike the Swedes, the Norwegians DO NOT LIKE to admit their mistakes even when the Chechen refugees deported by the Norwegians were killed in the Russian Federation (Norwegian media)...
Having watched this movie also watched a close indian friend going through this situation.. I must say this exactly their protocol .. my friend said you cant be emotional infront of kids , my friend was told "stop it" for her indian way of pampering(to be precise for saying indian rhyming wordz like gulu gulu ).. its the reality every small move of your is judged ..
What a sick society and culture these Norwegian have. No doubt they were considered as barbaric pirates and uncivilized by other Europeans throughout history.
I just saw the movie and I hurt watching the mother.. then I read the statements about the real case, with the mother accused for slapping her infant as a means of correction, locking them in a room while showering and cooking. Her boy reacting in fear when she raised her hand while the authorities visited. Placing her infant on surfaces not intended for diaper changes, causing her infant to fall down etc. None of this was mentioned in the movie. So. Remember it’s a movie. It’s not just “cultural differences” aka., hand feeding, sleeping together and kohl. Sleeping with your kids is not even uncommon in skandinavia what so ever.
If she was as pure as in the movie I doubt her case would have had to go through three countries. I know there are corrupt people but that many, in so many different places? I don’t think so. I just hope they made the right decision giving them back to her.
Thank you for an intelligent and well balanced comment finally.There are child safety laws in western countries. There is a reason why they were made. You should be aware of the law and respect their lawa when you move to their countires.
The children are quite grown up now and they are doing perfectly fine. The daughter is very good in her studies and is a very good dancer but the son who was born autistic is doing ok but and is studying in a school for children with special needs. The mother is living in Noida ( Near Delhi) but the children are living with their maternal grandparents in a place near Kolkata. The mother (Whose actual name is Sagarika Chakroborty) has a Bachelors degree in Computer Application and a Masters degree in Management . I am really thankfull to God that she has got her children back otherwise the life of both the mother and the children under foster care would have been destroyed like most of the children who are raised in foster homes turn out to be depressive and drug adicted misfits in society. Shame on the Norwegian society for destroying so many families. Really disgusting people these Norwegians are.
I was just planning to do my masters in computers but after reading a lot about how Norway Govt will take Foreigners kids away from parents . the Barnevernet takes around 1,500 children away from their parents every year.
Good that you both brought this up. I very closely followed this case and it felt heartwretching to see the parents go through so much.
Im in Norway now and Im a single parent. So, you can imagine the pressure. Luckily, my children are grown up now (12&8) and I've brought them up quite independent compared to Indian standards (and not privileged enough to pamper them either). In a way, for majority of the Indian parents the Norwegian rules may look really harsh. But, my point here is hitting children or abusing them physically is quite wrong. Also, domestic violence. We Indian parents lack patience I feel. (On a lighter note) I'm working on it myself too because as children grow up you need to have more patience to be responsible parents 😀.
Spare the rod & spoil the monkey. Disciplining kids even corporally is good, just don't go too far. If you do not hit them when they do not behave - they will end up as spoiled brats, girls will end up as you know what - it is guaranteed.
I have dated enough of these 'spoiled girls' & they are not marriage material girls for sure.....as much 'fun' as they were. Don't raise your girls to end up like that.
It's not a single case that happened in Norway or scandinavian countries or to say only happened with Indian parents.. Norway's child welfare got criticised by so many PPL there are books written about this..there are documentry about it...there are so many articles about it..
If so many PPL around the world almost said or made serious comments like child trafficking then there must be something wrong with the system...
It's not just the system, it's the Norwegian mentality. We have this very ingrained self-image of being the "good guy". As such people have a very difficult time staying objective when it comes to children, so even a slight suspicion often spirals out of control and people lose their objectivity, this is also true for people who have this as a profession, and subsequently the politicians that make the rules, and so on. Eventually the whole system turns into a toxic overprotective parent. Combine this with a culture that has lost a lot of it's humanity in favour of outward appearance, political correctness, and psychological dogma, and you got a recipe for disaster. Think of the Southpark episodes where everyone gets worked up screaming "think of the children!!" when in reality there is nothing negative happening to the children. Weirdly it also seems to have the opposite effect, when something actually really bad is happening to children they have difficulty believing it's true, don't know what to do about it, and end up closing their eyes to it. That has also happened many times in Norway, serious horrible abuse being reported again and again, and they don't believe it because the people that it has been reported too has lived such sheltered lives that they simply can't accept something so horrible as being something that could really happen. So serious cases get ignored, while relatively minor issues are blown out of proportion.
"Hitting children or abusing them physically ist quite wrong"-totally agree! I do recall, however, that my own mother would pinch my arm (not very hard, but still I could feel it) if I had done something wrong, anyway it never hurt me. Or even a LIGHT slap with her hand. Not sure if the child care authorities these days would consider it inappropriate- if so; I would describe it as hysteria! there are cases, however, where a child SHOULD be taken away from its mother, as brutally as it may seem. One of my dear cousins, she is today 50 yrs old, she herself a mother, was adopted to my uncle from Denmark when she was very little. She today expresses a lot of LOVE for her adoptive parents, she sais she holds no grudge against her mother (which she has never seen), who was an alcoholic.
@@bjrnjensen7074 I'm sorry, but if you are pinching your children as punishment, what the hell? It sounds like you defend physical punishment. Those who physically punish their children should not be allowed agency over another individual, they don't have rights over another human being, that human being deserves respect. Would you pinch an older person because they don't listen to you? No that would be abuse, and you know it.
It's a true story and depicted well in the movie. She won the battle legally. So no point of your views.
They need to live in Norway with their child, It's obviously they won't be opening up too much and also they need to earn money through you tube from Indians so they had to give some information hence they kept the whole conversation low. But after reading so many articles and watching videos I now know that, if you are in Norway and at any point if you feel that you are being watched or asked questions about your kids, take the first flight and fly to India, don't even pack your bags.
Actually they have still worse, I would rather have US laws. Norway and Some in EU have worse child laws.
India has an outstanding Constitution💫 because of which such things doesnot happen in India.
Not so outstanding if you are muslim
@@mujahidal-deen2195 When you start considering yourself Indian first instead of Hindu , Muslim, you will find it outstanding.
@@sonalmeshram1089 Im a british born Indian so i wont know as much as ppl living in india but if you was right then just being indian would be enough to let couples adopt in india which we both know isn’t the case
@@mujahidal-deen2195 Because of Indian Constitution and Indian Judiciory only the couple get back their children which was not possible in Norway government.
@@sonalmeshram1089 that might be the case but my point is still fair. How migrants are treated in Europe is how muslims are treated in india. Dont get mad at me, im just saying what i see
Tum log khud ko indian bolna band karo khud ko Norwegian hi Bola karo india ka naam badnaam maat karo khud ko indian bolke. bache chori karne wale logo ko justify karte hue sharm nahi aati Pata nahi dusro ke bachho ke Sath kya kya karte Honge ye log .
A country which has “no” in their name suggests that this is a no go country. Africa is far better that ways. Or any third world country for that matter. This movie is an eye opener for many, so Norway should be a no/no country to make home for Indians….. This movie would be a eye opener for everyone planning to make Norway their home…..
Just like North Korea which also has a No in the front.
And what about pedophilia, sex with children, not a certain gender for children? How are you doing with this?)
I know somali woman whose her children was taken by the government. She was pregnant with her 4 and they took a minute after giving birth. The two parent went through so many difficult times. It was because one of the children fall from the stairs and he was dead. How can they know what is gonna happen. The couple divorced and the husband went prison and the wife got truma. She can't even go outside. Really mentally and emotionally damage. The Norwegian government have other secret purposes
Glad that Bollywood made this movie … Scandinavian countries do not kidnap only the Indian children but also Arab and African children. an Iraqi father committed suicide because the instance of Sweden took his 9 children! May god help all the immigrants to protect their children
Can anyone explain why exactly the child was taken away by the child protective services? I've no idea but if it involved physical abuse I don't think it's wrong to take the child away. I have no idea, so anybody who knows why it happened, I'll appreciate your reply.
So I did some research. Turns out it was because of being handfed and sleeping in the same bed. The taking away of children sounds unjustified to me coz it's not abuse and merely a cultural difference UNLESS I'm missing something. Regardless one has to obey the rules of a country , whether they resonate with someone or not. People are most welcome to return to their home country if they don't want to follow the rules. But this doesn't sound like abuse to me atleast. If anyone knows more about the case , let me know
@@bauabh The problem is: What people in general know about the case is based on rumors and the media. Because aurthories are not allowed to tell details, as it is confidential. This means we will never get the full and detailed picture of the case. I am norwegian and i also coslept with my children when they were small. Many people do that, as many people see it as a way to create healthy bonding and a healthy emotional development. One reason it is not recommended by som health staff is that in some cases (big pillows, etc) it gives an increased risc of sudden infantdeath.
@@hba2019 Yeah then we unfortunately mayn't be able to get the full picture. In our culture, it's pretty common to cosleep at a young age and handfeeding etc. I don't support physical violence on the child as a means to discipline even though this was quite common when I was growing up. My parents were different from others in this. They didn't use physical punishment. I won't say they've never hit but they've used physical force to such a low extent that when I compare it to how others around me were brought up , I would say they never hit me at all. It's kinda weird about sudden infant deaths happening with pillows or something. Parents made the kids sleep with them as it was also more safe to do so. Dang- I can't even think of making a little kid sleep in a crib alone. Though it changes with time. Maybe when the kid is around 9-10 you can encourage the kid to sleep alone for making the kid more independent and all. But overall if the kids were taken away bcz of cultural differences , it seems like a dick move. But if they were being physically abused or something, it was perfectly valid. And even if it was the cultural differences , Norway can make whatever rules it wants and they can take the kids away due to cultural differences- but I don't support it ofc
@@hba2019 Btw I forgot say that I love Norway and it's my favourite Scandinavian country. I mean it's the best country. So if I had the opportunity to immigrate, I would definitely move to Norway
One on the team in 2011 ( now retired ) said in 1 newspaper the these children was not taken as described in this movie ( mum hand feed them and kids slept in her bed ). He said it wasn't due to cultural differences. But it was because high level of conflict between the parents.
But I am 100% sure that isn't true.
It's racism, and discrimination. Maybe the parents had 1 argument ? Than they twist it to high level conflict.
It's a sick society, but that's how child protection services in Norway actually are.
Even "Last Week Tonite" by John Oliver - Show in USA spoke on this same topic and they are also have our same opinion as Indians. Repect children n keep children with parents
I can see you are biased , constantly trying to defend Norway ,you people still has to defend Norway by saying its a Bollywood movie and all .
They're like the husband in the movie, what matters is the Norwegian citizenship
Some people don't respect Indian culture in the West....😕
That's y these types of incidents occur
Nicely protected as you are leaving in Norway. 😂
But this fact that child welfare in Norway does heal a lot of human rights violation and in UN and EU lots of cases are pending.
I would say they need to understand what family means.
I would say Norway is not safe for parents and children as well because they are thinking giving money to the maintainers means they are going to give love 😅.
I am really scared after this trailer . I am here In Norway with my Kid . I think i made a wrong decision…😢
Yeah, go back. EU is not for abusive parents, sorry to burst your bubble.
No one is denying you to go back to India.
Yea u did , 8 more years
Why r u saying this to us did u left India asking us ?? What we can do its their country their laws
If you pinch or slap your child, yes your child will be removed because their rights trump your right to pinch or slap a child. If you don't like that, get out of Norway.
Do Norway has home school option for kids? Like here in the USA child can study till high school in a home school setting. Even interested parents can pass few exams to be licensed as home school teachers. Large number of kids opt for home schooling and they come out really good. Looks like Norway is not high on ranking on human development index as it claims. High standard of living is just not limited to physical comforts, and basic necessities, it also means importance of passing on values to next generation. If having less toys can be a determining factor in child's future or if country's child development dept. thinks having less clothes or space would hinder child's abilities then they should really look at the Asian countries and how they are thriving. If their system is that good then ''how many CEOs are coming out of Norway'' ….' How many Entrepreneur or which country leads in innovation'' ……..
no, it dont think it have home school option.. If it could be there then it will be another reason to welcome cws at home . in school, kindergarten , children are watched closely by the authority whether to inform cws or not. There is a fear in every indians parents here with regard to their kid...Ranking on Human Development Index is something in real doubt because too many loopholes is there in the system.. Medical sucks, Middle year coming parents cant send their child to kindergarten due to unavailability of seat resulting to child being at home with parents , long procedure for kid admission,.etc..It is not same what is portrayed in Google..
No. NORWAY has no home school option.
In Norway by law all children have to go to school.
If your child is away from school ( tp much ), the school will call the child protection services.
It's even not legal to take your kids out of school for holiday ( it's cheaper flights when school break is over ).
Not only in Norway, even in Canada the rules are similar.
My boards end on march 16……cant wait to watch this movie ❤
My daughter is Norwegian and is a doctor she has just had a baby and he sleeps with them and he likes to eat with his hands
This is not based on a true story. Its basically based on the mothers perspective. The Norway embassy said, it had nothing to do with feeding the baby wrong or sleeping in the same room with the kids, but its confidential they couldn't tell the real reason. I wish we could read the investigation paper from the social services.
The overwhelming opinion from all sources i have read is it is true. Of course the Norwegian embassy will deny it.
Its more common for small children to share a bed with parents than not in Norway. Also, all court documents are open to the public in Norway. If you know the date and court you can easily access the full record and not just the parents side of the story.
This kind of cases are tried in a special court (Fylkesnemnda), and they are confidential. Child Welfare Services (Barnevernet) are also bound by rules of confidentiality. So no, you cannot access the documents and details beyond what the parents have told the media.
Jerks like the ambassador of Norway criticized the movie blaming that it showed only one side of the story. Ask that jerk who is going to tell his side of the story? . Because of the privacy law he says it cannot be disclosed . So why the hell he keeps saying it is a fictional movie. If his own ass went through this he would have understood the pain. Most immigrants especially Indian are highly qualified and educated people coming from good families and good culture. It is not the immigrant getting the benefit of a job in Norway but the Norway itself is getting top notch educated talents to give that country their talents. Why do you think America is number one country in the world? It is all because it attracts the top notch talents all across the world and respects their culture. Trashy countries like Norway will never ever learn that and once their natural petroleum resources are depleted it will be a country of slums.
Co-sleeping relates Touch therapy. I am the witness. Our kids slept with us in the beginning. I went another place for project for a month, son was unwell. Doctor investigated and said, he just needs a hug from father. He is sad. I came home, he stuck with my chest for 10 minutes, cheered up. Ate from my hands which is objectionable to Norway. He was all fit the next day and started all notorious stuff. In movie, investigators objected mother's tears make child weak and emotional. All rubbish. The same son who stuck to my chest 15 years ago is now a young man and working in Canada while we are in India. Is there any emotional barrier in his growth ?? NO ... Nope.
Norway has rules and who made them, a group of people in power. How can they claim they are 100% perfect. If they are making a perfect new generation then why are they holding the 28th position in the world economy.
You have taken such a diplomatic stand...but theek hai, you guys live their; you would not like to invite any problem for you guys just for a video....
Yes i agree with you... One person in the comment section literally threatening indirectly by saying does your Norway employer know about your stand about Norway...
Although i called out him but i don't see my comment there anymore bcz this channel might have thought it may put him dangerous situation
I've seen so many YT videos TikTok videos of mother's, parents who co-sleep with their children up to a certain age. My little sister was very attached to my parents when she was younger and would get really scared of sleeping alone at night even though we shared a room at the time.. so she basically slept with them until 5-6 years old. The only time she felt safe and could sleep without crying at night was with my parents only.
Yes it's Bollywood and little bit exaggerated...i feel little biased ness in your voice but I can understand why..but kaunsa parenting thik ye decide karne ka haq kisi ko bhi nhi hai..I mean haat se khilana matlab force eating cosleep matlab neend me disturb just because wo eisa samajhte hain doesn't mean that's correct..indus culture tab se hai jab inlogo ko kapde bhi pehen ne nehi ATI thi...it's just their ignorance..
Under any circumstances taking a baby that needs breast feeding, from parents is not accepted in any part of the world. U both also don't want to spell out the truth as u don't want to say anything against their rule or county, nahi.
I co-sleep with all my kids except for the new born.Sometimes we are 5 in same bed.Whats wrong with that?
Im sorry but the story just doesnt quite add up.
1. She told social services her husband didnt help and then told others he abused her.
2. She told everyone that all the accusations were lies and says they took the children because she was feeding by hand (not verified by anyone else).
3. The school and the other parents has made complaints about her. Again she says theyre all lies.
4. Her husband says she had Psycological issues.
Is it me or has this entire movie based on solely her words ? Shame the Norwegian governement cant go into detail as Im sure some things would come into the limelight.
Since you are living in Norway your perspective is biased as seems. Are you giving your child religious upbringing
Why should they? They already broke the rules of their own religion regarding caste pollution to move to mleccha territories like Norway.
Can you please share the results of that Indian family which went through the trauma? What was the outcome of their case? Did they got the kids back?
They got back their kids.
Indian govt stepped in
After watching the film, I suddenly have a very negative view of Norway....it's too artificial rules like robots
You'll be happy to learn that none of it is true then!
simple answer is : YES THEY DO
True story of the movie is 'SOFT HINDUPHOBIA' practiced by europians for long. Does it have undertone of their re ligion, want of con version through posing as superior?
What are you talking about? Most people in Norway don't follow any religion i.e. they don't go to church, don't pray, and don't follow religious rituals. Just because they are White does not mean they are Christian and out to convert desis.
Lol if you think any of this has with hinduism you've lost the plot. What the actual fuck
@@statesman01 there are lot of theists and atheist in Norway it's not matter about religion it's about child.
Do you watch a lot of hindutva channels where they Hindus are in danger in india even in Europe? 🤣🤣
If that was the case, then Dharmics shouldn't go to Europe. Dharmics break the rules of their own religion regarding caste pollution and flood into mleccha territories, then whine about Hinduphobia.
Westerners ka thoda IQ low hota hai ka??? Ye kaise rules hai yaaar
This story was 10yrs ago. But if you see comments section below the trailer,it is still pretty active. This is ridiculous to justify or defend the circumstances.
I dont know but its so haunting. I dont really even want to visit nirway. I dont have kids yet but still so traumatic to even think.
We recently moved to Norway from Portugal, and all of sudden, this movie is going to release. We also have a 3-year-old kid, and I am scared and concerned for him 😳 please suggest something
I think keep asking your child, what happened in school so will know who's watching. At any point if you feel that you are being watched or asked questions about your kids, take the first flight and fly to India, don't even pack your bags.
Get out of that backward country.
Live in your own country and go through all the hardships as a family but please 🙏🏼 don’t stay in that backward filthy malicious Scandinavian countries. If you really want to migrate to a developed country,,move to a country like Australia where the new mothers get all the support and more attention.
This is B(H)ollywood, so it's a lot of drama. The reason for "Barnevernet" taking action in the first place, was that the relationship between the parents was very toxic, and this had been reported several times to the authorities. If the parents had been normal, loving parents this would never had happened.
Read interview with Gunnar Toresen, who was the leader of Barnevernet in Stavanger at the time.
Its not just about Indians, check the trauma Norwegian parents whose children have been snatched for the flimsiest of reasons face
Barnetvernet kan ikke ta bort barna fra foreldrene med mindre de blir utsatt for vold, maktmisbruk eller overgrep. Jeg kan virkelig ikke skjønne hvordan du tenker at vi skal synes synd på foreldrene som mishandler barna sine.
First of, I work with children as a youthclub leader and I have reported cases to the child welcare office, as I am required to if I suspect something wrong have happend. That said ... one of the cases I did report was about grooming and the guy got sentenced for this too... grooming youth to achieve sex with them.
My experience with childwelfare office is that no ... they don't come and take your children unless there really really is reasons for it, if I send a report it does not nessesary means that they will forget it, they will investigate and before they take the children away they will seek out other options like talks with the parents, regular checkups to see if what they tell the parents are followed... in the end its the sum of all reports that matters before they take children away, and the rule are that it have to benefits the child.
That said, we have had several cases where childwelfareoffice have lost ... think there is over 30 cases ... so it happens that they do wrong, lets be honest about that, but also remember that they have a very very strict confidensiality clause so they can't talk about cases in public ... so always when you see these cases come in the news it is always from the perspective of one side only, the parents ... it would be like lissening to Putin or Hitler why their war happens ... should we believe them ? or be skeptical.
Well I understand you concern and really appreciate that the kids that really need helps get help .but in that case just taking away your child on cultural differences is so wrong .and i am not talking about punishment and all i am against that . But difference in festival and hand feeding your kids or giving them love is wrong because you feel that your way of raising kid is the only right thing then i must say I am hugely disappointed in European countries . You should maintain a free and transparent method of doing the process and give other party freedom and chance to prove there point .there can be a case where you would be snatching a happy lovey family from a child just because you don't think there culture is any better to raise a kid .
Well in the name of confidential clause you guys do get away with everything.... I don't know much about the confidentiality of other cases but in this particular case Norway's ambassador to india avoided the question... News anchor specifically asked on which specific things did the child welfare found wrong, whatever it was hand feeding, co sleeping,... Ambassador avoided the question by saying that it's confidential and can't discuss it ..
I mean i understand that you can't go into the details of ongoing sensitive case but atleast you can give the basics of the case ...and the most basic thing was the case what's is the wrong did the parents did... It's like police arrest you and keeping you for years and don't giving the reason of your arrest... Did not it sound like dictatorship...
Same with child welfare system.. it's more like child trafficking which got legal licence to kidnap
@@AkashSingh-nf5ey the confidential clause I have and that most people who work on children have is very very strict, for example the school are not allowed to tell me about if there is something wrong with any of the students that I have in my care at the youthclub ... unless the parents says its okey. That gives me problem because I have youths that can have some very special needs and I don't get to know about it even.
About that movie ... as far as I know because of what the parents have told it seems very very unreasonable, but then again, I don't know if this is correct right ? after all its only what the parents told that we get to hear of.
But as I said, I am sure there are cases where the children should never have been taken away ... and its bad, and as I said .. there are about 30 cases where Norway have lost at the European Human Right Court.... so it happens.
But the whole child trafficing calling are unfair and wrong, its being laid out like that to bad mouth the government while they still know well that the child welfare office can't talk against it. Claims like this only makes it a bad case to begin with, its not a good way to create a debate about it.
@@captainbolt1864 I can tell you this, as a kid growing up in the 70's it was actually allowed to give us a claps or something like that, not that it happend to me tough but I was in a leash to the stairs and I am not so sure that would have been accepted in todays society to be honest but it was to save me tough ... I had a nasty habbit of running at cars and even one time got run over by a car.... no big damages tough.
As with that case that the movie portray, yeah ... hand feeding should not in my view mean that they take the kids away it seems like someone did not do their job there, but it depends on that is the whole case after all we don't know do we...
But in general our children do have a very very high level of security and rules for the parents to follow ... some are possible too high maybe I don't know, I don't have kids myself.
Your Confidentiality cause just because there is nothing really to talk about . You are saying that you will snatch a child from her/his parents just because you think something is wrong which is actually not wrong and the parents or the public doesn't even have the right to know the reason.
And don't compare Hitler or Putin with the mother case, because the world sees Putin or Hitler as someone who started the war so when you compare Putin, Hitler perspective with the parents you are basically saying that the parents were in fault, whatever the parents said were lies and you people are good .
It's just shows what type of mentality you people have.
Denmark:🇩🇰 The state and its forced adoptions
Gunnar Köhne
07/29/2022July 29, 2022
Danish mothers are fleeing to Germany out of fear that the state will remove their children. Denmark says the tough crackdown is for the good of the child
So called "democracy" 🤣🤣🤣
Hi @namastefromnorway Germany still not giving indian girl they took from indian parents.
In this particular case I felt that the biggest red flag was the attitude of the husband towards his wife and his family. However, reaction of the mother when her kids are snatched from her is pretty normal. BV was trying to prove her mentally unstable due to her reactions is insensitive. Nonethrless, this was not a lone case. Although my knowledge is based on the documentries and media reports, i was taken aback by some of the caess. Firstly, as of today BV has lost 43 out of 46 cases highlighting the one sided and inappropriate treatment by BV. I also came across cases where the kid was taken away bcoz it was one pound lighter, there were cases where financial condition of the family was a concern (when love and care from parents should matter) etc. Why cant bv vhange their strategy to consultstion rsther than breaking the families, hiw is it that that all the foster fsmiloes are doing good and never going wtong, and why dont they ask people to leave Norway (it should be the headache of people's country of citizenship then). As i find through the documentries thst some people are just waiting in norway to get their kids back (bad, bad, bad). Please shed light on these matters if possible!
I literally have OPENED my eyes about Norway. No one is better than anyones or have the right to tell them how to love their children. This woman clearly love her kids and yet, we, in any country, appoint AHOLES to destroy family
The Norwegian government and agencies did not understand Indian culture in 2011? I am speechless and disgusted with people who sell their loyalties for petty gains (Shah se zyada shah se wafadar). Using hand for hygienic food is unhygienic to them and putting unhygienic things in their mouth is hygienic - this is their culture and sums up everything. Miss Smt. Sushma Swaraj Ji for all the good work she did, may her soul rest in peace.
Norway torturing Indian children and parents is not acceptable when norway return the child at time there attitude made everyone angry
But why you guys are preferring to settle down there, irrespective of this?
I have just come back from watching this movie,
its an amazing realistic film,
it shows the human side of law enforcement
the struggle of indian mother abroad,
laws are always made with pure and honest intentions everywhere around the world but its implementation is something which has scope of loot
You are very wrong about laws being made pure and honest LAWS are designed to keep the powers that be in power and to ostracize the poor and unfortunate there was no humanely justification or right to take her children and give them to other ( strangers ) people
i am 27 years old but still i cant imagine living without my parents 🙏🙏
In that case, please don't marry. Because after that you and your parents will expect that poor girl to love and serve your family exactly like you do. Stay single and be a Shravan Kumar to your parents but don't marry and expect your wife to be a Shravan Kumar to your parents as well.
@@statesman01You are telling just the opposite , l have seem many more people living in joint families living happily than small couple families. In fact nowadays majority of the nuclear families are disintegrating leading to divorce. As most women are working nowadays there are clashes between the couple regarding the time they spend on their family. I know of many women who tell me that they will be much more happy living in a joint family.
Not only Indian as a Somalian we do same co sleep and feeding by hand
If I don’t feed my kids with my hand I don’t feel the kids are satisfied the food
I expected you to say that the accusations against the Child Services in Norway are completely false and that the media hyped it up too much. However, the way you have presented this is very worrying.
actually it is..directly or indirectly try to understand the plight of parents and children living here with the fear
It is indeed VERY worrying what's going on in Norway. Hear from a Norwegian Psychologist who once worked for the Child welfare system: ua-cam.com/video/jBfDdtokaSA/v-deo.html
Arvid ji and Shialja bhabhi... You too are like old wine... As you both are aging you are glowing. Look at you. So gorgeous