Tile Leveling System Tips and Tricks
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- Опубліковано 14 кві 2018
- This video will show you how to install tile leveling clips and spacers the day after setting tile using a multi tool and a grout removal bit.
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Very professional to cut steel and let the sparks go on the top of the tiles. Well done
Very good tips man. I like the innovation.
Simply use a wedge to remove the thinset from where you want to put the insert the next day. Very easy
Yeah, well when you are overworked or just beat aftet 10 hrs. of tile work, shite tends to happen! But yes, I also TRY to get to that before I leave my job for the day.
@@bryanbenson6551 yep
Great tip! Thanks
Thanks for the tip. I’m trying the ridgid leveling system. I put them in at the end of the day and they seem to back out some over night. I also am clumsy and end up breaking some. I kicked one then turned around to see where it went and broke another one. I can pull the broken ones out but new ones will not go back in. I am going to try this. Do you have a video about using your margin trowel to clean along the tile edge before placing the levelers and putting down next tile.
nice idea .thanks
We did this on a casino job in Idaho about 9 or so years ago using 2'x4' tiles. Handy way to do a repair or if someone broke off the level clips you left in for the next day.
Thx a lot. I ll gone try!
Yes, it helps!
Thnx for sharing your tiling tip.
Thanks!
good thing, thank you
Ha I was looking for this tip the other week but didn't see this video!! So took it up on myself to do the same thing only difference was I used a thin metal cutter bit on mine that worked perfectly 😁 didn't have to modify it and that was the only bit I had left in the box I could use haha. thanks for your tips and vid's there very helpful 👍
Warren Margetts That's what I use too
Great video thank you. I tiled bathroom walls using the RIGID leveling system on white “polished” marble tile. Now I have swirl marks/light circular scratches. Any tips on how I can remove the swirl marks while retaining the gloss? Thanks.
Yes, RTC Spin doctor leveling kit has optional shields that go on the leveling base. You can find it on Amazon
I have used the grout removal tool to clean out a space then just cut off a little bit if the ‘wing’ on the spacer clip… think I saw this on one of the Sal D videos. Either way, love ur work and generous pointers!
I was leaving them in before I wrap up for the day, making sure my tile edge was perfectly clean of thinset, push the leveling spacer in and still the next day all my spacers would be just a bit to far out and I’d have to break them all out, I’ve used your method but have just decided to set that 1st row the old fashion way ... rubber mallet and pulling my hair out 👍🏼
Save yourself the hassle by using your clip to scrape out the thin set before you leave, sometimes the clip won’t fit in exactly the next day so I just get my snips and take an 1/8 off the clip and it sits in perfect.
here i come smart answer i place leveling unit then place small wedge to each side to freeze tile till tomorrow, always when ever possible support your edges overnight to retain control, then next day get helper on this closet who wants do those anybody cheers. you keep making vids you can see we all want in!!
Thanks buddy! That's an awesome idea and I'm going to definitely try it out. 👊👊👊
I like your KneePro knee pads-I got turned on to them when I saw a GC on a job with them, and they've been flawless and comfortable for years, and great for tile because they're so easy to clean!
Good to know!
Never thought of this
It works and we use it for clips all the time! 👍
I like this sistam
I used to use a grout blade to but I found blade wears out fast and its 40 bucks for a new one so what I do I cut myself small scraps of tiles and clip them in and that holds the clip in place till the next morning then just remove the shim and your good to go .
That's what I do works a treat
Great idea...using a grinder to cut the Dremel Bit...but why not just use the grinder ?
Using the grinder to cut out thinset under the tile is way too aggressive and dangerous, the oscillating tool works the best from our experience.
the offset on those grinders and the size of those grinders ( as well as the torque ) makes them unwieldy and difficult to control, the main reason for not using a grinder to do that task is that grinder wheels only operate in a circular motion, the multi tool operates in a side to side short stroke motion, which would not crack the tile VS the torque and motion of a grinder.
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Where you get those knee pads? They look really comfortable!
You can find them in here
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How to remove remaining pieces of the tile leveling system that are not completely broken out?
I’m just happy to see less hacks in the world! Keep making videos I’m a full time setter 30years I just don’t have time to make videos lol but I watch people like you and Sal set tile when I’m not setting tile am I loosing my f n mind hahaha wtf is wrong with that picture? Bitch about it and then come home and watch It on UA-cam lol ☝️💪❤️🔷
Yes sir, I'll keep making them! I guess we call it a tile addiction! 👊👊👊👊
Put the spacer in the day before, when it's still wet. or use the pointy bit to scrape out a hole when it's still wet.
I have done all these methods, but I've also implemented using the reusable clips which you only need to dig out like 1/4 inch of mud which can be done easily. I just use those in certain areas and they dont replace the clips for the majority
Agreed! I actually cut off half of the clip so it didn’t go in so far…
Good tip. This is what I do. Just a tip for your tip. Use the pointed corners. The Ramondi clips are pointed not square like yours. You get double the use out of the blade and they fit perfectly. Keep it up!!!!
Thank you sir! I will definitely check out your tip and advise. 👊
Landberg Tile DIY TV I don’t do videos. I’m wanted in six states.
There is also the “Dremel” style diamond bit which is rectangular so you don’t need to cut anything
Haven't tried that yet. We will look into it, thanks for the info!
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These are what we use brother
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i use the milwaukee grout removal blade no need to modify it, you can also put it on any angle so you can get into tight spots with your multitool
This is also useful when you have to replace a broken tile and get the new one on plane more easily.
Use the triangle shaped bit it’s the same thing shaped like a triangle it has more forward space to achieve the depth length of the leveling clip. I set them before I leave that day but sometimes they aren’t perfect and have to be repositioned.
Great tip, thanks!
What I do when I tile the day where I left off I just use my scraper to get all the access glue away from the tile before I leave so when I come back I won't be a mess what you're doing takes more time and pissing around
lol yes sir
Why not set the leveling clip before the thinset sets up and come back later with a perfect starting point? Just thinking out loud.
We do that also, but when dealing with large floors, the clips tend to sag or move and when we show up the next day, the tiles don't set right.
I install a "dummy course" at the end of the day. Basically install the clips and a row of tile (with out thinset). The tiles will hold the clips in place as the thinset cures.....
Here’s an idea. See before the cement goes hard why not dig a wee bit out before you leave. Just an idea.
That is a good idea, but the thinset may settle after you leave and you will still have to clear it out with the multi-tool... 👊
That’s how I do it
Why not put the lash in and use an occur to lash it down just take cut out next day and your good to go
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Hee Haw this is exactly what I do by using a clip to dig out the thin set, yes Landberg occasionally the thin set settles after I leave, but I use my snips to take about an 1/8 off the clip and it fits perfectly, no dust no mess and done in a fraction of the time and also eliminating the chance of mistakes if there’s underfloor heat cable.
I think starr tile walks around with a pant antler for this guy
lol
@@LandbergTileTV He dont need no stinking leveling system...that's what redguard is for.. lol as many corners as that guy cuts im surprised his tiles arent round...hahah Enjoy the vids bro!
One third better than 1/2
grinder sparks above the tile! Hope you didnt ruin the tiles
No sir! Tile was all good 👊
I just install them so they're ready for the next day
Dude how does a leveling system even work? Isn't that what planipatch is for? Self leveler to fill voids, grind the heights and have a nice level work surface to begin with
Just install spacer before mud sets, then start again next day
If your next tile ends up being higher than your last cured tile the leveling clip would not help anyway,I would just cut off one side of the clip and use it that way.
12x24 runing bond pattern not recommended..
Eagle song howcome?
You can cut plastic , from plastic clip :)
personally, I insert these spacers as soon as I lay the tiles, and the next day they are ready to work, and you will not need to cut anything for them, so I save my time
Easier to cut a bit of the foot of the plastic bass clip off, shortening it a bit.
Yes that’s how I do it…But chipping a tile is an issue…Have to stay back from the tile….
No need to destroy a good blade, a regular cheap straight multi tool wood blade works for me. Thinset/mortar not that hard maybe even softer than hardwood.
First you gotta learn to use a grinder. Wheel on upside down and cutting with the wrong side as well. If that blade catches and kicks, it’s coming straight at you. Wrong.
Why don’t you just leave them in before you leave
We do that sometimes, but most times the clips/spacers do not sit tight up against the tile when we come back the next day to install. When we start to install, we see inconsistencies in the size of the grout lines as well as lippage. This has been the best solution after trying all options. 👊
Sal the tile guy sets a tile against the clips before he leaves for the night.
Sal has a video on this and he does a lot of different things and methods. I think he uses a multi tool as well with different bit attached to it. If you leave it the night before, it doesn't sit perfectly when you get back the next day and usually you have to remove the clips.
Why not just cut the plastic clip a 1/4”?
Cutting the clip would be an extra step in circumstances where let's say you had a 20 foot run with porcelain planks and needed to insert 40 clips. Use the grinder for a quick cut on the diamond bit and you will avoid the extra step of having to cut all 40 clips. 👊
I'm sorry what was the reason the clips were not left in place at the end of the day ? There is none which makes this video moot.
because the clips tend to move when you leave and come back the next day.
It's far easier to put a tile without thinset next to the tile with thinset and install the leveling system. Just pick up the tile without thinset the following day and the leveling system will be ready to continue the project.
Don't try this if you have heated floor wires under the tile
Don't ever use an angle grinder without its guard. People can easily lose a finger for doing what is shown in this video.
Yes sir that is right. If your not experienced with a grinder, always put the guard on. 👊
First thing I do is take them off
Why would you use that thumbnail...
That's a great question lol. Didn't know much about good thumbnails back in the day 👊
here is a tip a tile blade on your grinder cuts just as good on metal as the fiber blade try it swear by it on my moms grave
FFS, the standard of advice across this platform is so bad that this isn't even the worst.
huh?
Why do your guys struggle with lippage? I cant deny the clips make it easier but lippage should be unacceptable if an installer has any pride in his work. I know not everyone does.
Its hard to find employees who put in the effort
I dont care if you have the best installer that ever was and the most perfect level floor, your still going to have bad lippage with long planks because they are bowed to start. The clips can split all the differences and actually flex the planks until dry
@@vapdivrr5656 Thats true to a degree. I rarely use level clips and my floors and walls have zero lippage. Zero. With that being said the clips do come in handy for long planks that are bowed. Thats really the only time i use them these days. I will say though that if youre using quality sticky thinset like customs prolite or mapei's ultralite and you backbutter and press down on the center of plank where its bowed the thinset will actually hold the tile straight. So clips or no clips its still possible to get no lippage even with bowed planks.
I agree man. I rarely use clips and you could slide a puck across my floor and not hit any lip.
Hi why you look and talk so mean.
Hahaha u cant place single row without clips? What kinda tiler u r? LOL
Yes! hit the nail on the head Fat Boo 👊
i'm a professional , and i' will never put those leveling system for put a tiles , this is for beginners !
4 Land you are right. It wastes a lot of time and money
4 Land you are a professional dickhead
Yes , iam !
Lot more pros now days are using them. Wonder how long before you lose work to the guy who sells a customer on them. Hard to compete with perfectly smooth seams. If your able to get that then kudos.
thats right cheers