Also you made this drone look great, the opening scene with that glow fx is epic:) Looks like a better option than avata for the battery option alone add the -250g :)
I myself am a newb and I definitely appreciate you using the radio because I have 0 knowledge of transmissions and GHz and all that stuff when it comes to RCs lol
I’m currently paying off an AVATA from a friend and I haven’t even had the chance to fly it since buying it. I did have a fly when my friend owned it and loved it, that’s why when I got the offer from my friend I jumped at the chance to get it. If I had the money I’d definitely be thinking about getting this smaller one though, just for flying around people that might be annoyed with the sound of the AVATA. It looks good.
The AVATA is a beginner DJI Drone, kinda like a DJI Mavic, so you or your Grandma could fly it without issue. It does have a MANUAL mode so that you can feel what it is like to fly Pro FPV and it gets you close to that but most AVATA users crash & destroy their AVATA learning to fly in MANUAL mode. The IFLIGHT DEFENDER 25 has no beginner modes so any Beginner trying it will crash it many times learning to fly. Since you are a newbie with the AVATA, I would fly it until you feel comfortable flying in MANUAL mode, and then you could easily fly drones like the IFLIGHT DEFENDER 25 and experience the difference.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 I should have said that I also fly fpv drones as well, I like the AVATA’s abilities to be both an fpv and cinematic drone in the one. Yes, it isn’t a true aerobatic drone but it is a good compromise between the two types. Thanks for the reply captain, I know exactly what you mean and appreciate your reply.
we really need someone to produce a good prop guard soon that plastic doesn't look like it can take a big hit neverminded the weight restriction , also wished someone showed a Gopro mounted on and flew with it
@@ohplease3327 OgDobo is going to rip them a new one , from what I gather this drone missed the mark a tad bit, but that is even subjective because its sole purpose was to be a decent flyer and under 250G not for it to be an Avata JR
When DJI came out with the 03 system, it was for the purpose of making the FPV drones lighter and no longer using a GoPro. I did a comparison of a GoPro Hero 11 and the DJI 03 system in my review of the iFlight 6" Evoque 03. I can't keep doing the same thing in every review.
Great review Captain Drone, very interested in the Defender 25 as I already have the Avata & it seems like a good next step into fpv proper. It might even break my addiction to DJI products lol.
My first was the DJI FPV drone and I thought it was the best thing ever, but I must say the entire world of FPV opened up to me once I starting flying Betaflight quadcopters. There is so much more out there than what DJI is offering at such a better price. You'll never look back! - I've got a whole wall of quadcopters now, but honestly the one I fly and enjoy the most is a simple little 3 inch freestyle quad perfect for doing flips and race gates around the backyard.
Not telling you what to do of course, but I agree with Daniel Pendzich- get a 3" or 5" freestyle with the 03 system since you already have the Avata for cinematic stuff. I have the defender with the previous camera system, but don't have an Avata. It does ok for freestyle, but not like an open prop that is made for more acrobatic movement. Ignore this if you are only interested in slow, cinematic flying.
@@marcsangiuliano4273 I got the dragon frog frame kit on Amazon for like 25 bucks, then built the 3 inch from spare parts, I'd assume it flies similar to the baby ape pro, but I put a vista in mine. It flies beautifully on a 3s lipo!
It's fast that's probably a good time flying thanks for all the info every question I thought of you answered before I look up the specs thanks for always keeping us up to date 👍
Thanks Captain for posting; have been trying to decide which "serious" FPV to buy as at this stage, its not "my thing" so want to get it right!; great option and very tempting as it has the DJI Camera!; as an aside loved your Wife's "KIA" launch pad !!!!!
This looks great I think k I'd rather have this then the AVATA!! Pretty quick too! Steve I just got the cinilog 35 performance 6s....it amazing. Thanks for the STICKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOUR WIFE ROCKS!!!! SO DO U....
It says on the website that they come standard with GPS in the list of changes. Unless I misinterpreted what I was reading. Per the change log on the product page: "May 31, 2023: Defender 25 4S HD BNF comes with GPS installed by default." I've been looking at the Avata for months now. But it just can't flip and spin and quickly and safely as this one. I know it's not a freestyle drone, but you can still do some decent freestyle with it. It freestyles better than the Avata from what I've seen, even though that's not necessarily the purpose.
I'll be honest Steve? I've haven't tried any of those FPV's drones no matter what company? But that little FPV looks awesome? Maybe one of these days I'll try it out? I'll try and buy the cheapest one possible just to crash it into a wall, or tree or something like that? Thanks again for sharing Steve. 👍👍👍
The FPV hobby is one of those hobbies that most GPS Camera Drone pilots eventually get into (like myself). I have to warn you though... once you get into it, you're hooked for life and your heart rate will increase every flight.
I would STRONGLY dissagree with this one been better than DJI Avata, unless you NEED that 250g limit. I fly 5” APEX HD on Kiss that I build. I fly also Avata. Avata flies like on rails indoor. Charging is like safe dream. Plug anywhere to USB C charger. Not even talking about safety of that batery, self discharging to safe levels, etc. For me it flies about 12+ minutes indoors (acro) and I land at 30% battery. It takes off, hovers and lands by itself if you wish. You can do hand take of/landing as I do (not touching ground in forest, dirt etc.. It has BRAKE button when it will stop when you mess up…. That button alone is pure gold for anyone learning. I would kill for that button when I started. I can now fly without problem, orbit, rolls… and I still love that option. I would be carefull to say anything with O3 has same quality as Avata. Avata camera is so vibration free on those rubber mounts. It has gimball you can adjust mid air. Yes you will use it. When I fly indoors I decrease angle and you see that angle in the googles while avata is hovering by itself… It has GPS return… Im 100% sure that Avata durability is faaaar superior to Defender. Its unbelievable durable. I will not start discussion about component quality…. And the best…. Same price
I think you may have watched another vid. This was not a “Defender 25 vs Avata video”. Anyone deeply in the FPV hobby and camera drone hobby knows the differences between the two, and I only pointed out a few in this vid so that people didn’t get confused and think it was another stupid clickbait video about every product is better than DJI video.
*"rapid prototyping"* is creating some absolutely amazing product in the pure BEV market at *INCREDIBLY NO LONG COSTLY PRICES* at the moment very much spot on with that to include imaging solutions and some really amazing bells and whistles now too absolutely true dat as well. Sad to see how these items are being used as an entirely new type of fighting War but one side effect is that this be the case turns off many to the drone market driving prices in some cases *MUCH* lower but also increasing quality and the fun factor to start creating a right proper and hopefully true as in real as good image for these now in Ukraine anyways *TRULY* literal killing machines. Be interesting to see how Artificial Intelligence starts to impact this market such that the item basically *"flies itself"* using preset cinematic modes which in theory anyways would create some truly amazing *"film"* (digital) product... especially as a kind of *"sport model"* too/as well/in addition/best just got better. Great review as always!
No video required because it is so simple. Just ensure both are on the same firmware, then press the link button on the drone, then press the link button on the goggles.
I am impressed with this little craft. Soon, once I get going on my next project I will be looking for an ariel camera like this. Being a newbie I fully understand your advice on moving slow with the various flight actions. Outdoors only for my needs anyhow. Thanks for your video work, keep them coming.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 agreed but in angle mode the camera is max tilt and the angle of forward motion is the same as acro and if u go anymore in acro it flips over. Try next time u fly and see what u think.
@@enlightened9538 I have not tried this quad head to head in speed while in different modes, but all other quads over many years of use are all much slower in Angle mode.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 yes I would agree for sure, but I feel this one is different. Hence me saying u should try and see what u think. But I’m not professional like your self, but would love your opinion if u do try. Thanks again for all your replies.
I mentioned in a previous video I have zero desire to buy the INSPIRE 3. I have a $12,000 INSPIRE 2 and I won't make that mistake again. Perhaps a make a video of this in the future.
What's a good frame thats similiar in style to this Defender 25 & DJI Avata style layout? Im looking to build something like this but i dont see any bare frames or kits in this enclosed one piece style.. Also what components are missing that you would consider upgrading parts for? Also if this is a BNF isnt it not part of remote id as of right now so being under 250grams wouldnt matter or is that not how it works?
Nice at under 250g but expensive considering its size and lack of flight time - I'm surprised its as expensive as it is given it has no avoidance etc, or kit with it for that matter. Camera is certainly nice image
So the larger DJI FPV drone claims to have obstacle avoidance, but it’s also much larger than most fpv drones. Definitely unlikely/unusual for smaller ones to have it 😅
Neat little drone. Would be good as a winter play around the house and goofing off outside. My only compliant is I don't see you putting any other camera on it.
The USB-C/microSD card slot also looks more accessible than the Avata. I wonder how a GoPro would mount tilted with the proprietary battery as opposed to a third-party battery. Thanks!
It looks just like the one I brought down spying over my property. I was outside last week driving my Axial SCX lll crawler and it was hovering over my property so I turned off the truck, held the steering on the transmitter to the right, then kept pushing the bind button, after about the fourth push it came down at an angle and hit the side of my barn. I put it out of it's misery and buried it out in the pasture. Found it odd that no one came over to claim it. Ya the bind button, who would know?
If someone is spying on you, that means you are extremely famous worldwide. You see, if someone spent this much money on a drone to spy on Flynn Stone, then ya gotta be incredibly popular and your image is required everywhere. :-)
Looking at some of your earliest content... like the Yuneec Typhoon, you were SO SERIOUS! Amazing to see you develop along with your channel, and it's obvious you have some fun while showing folks drones, RC vehicles, occasionally some great goofy things like the Flappy Bird ornithopter last year😉 Transition: Serious Geek 🤓 (boo) --> fun, yet edumacational geek 🤓 (YAY!)
For those already in the FPV hobby, this is the "AVATA" most wanted. Under 250 grams, great camera, small, portable, and no silly options like optical flow, GPS, RTH, landing assistance, etc (that add weight to an FPV Drone).
Wow, you can get 3km on that little PCB antenna? Why is not everyone using these? They are in so many other electronics. You can find such antennas yourself in old laptops and WiFi routers.
This is recommended for those who want a small size drone, smaller than the cinebot 30 with DJI O3. This quad shines if you have the entire package with the propretary batteries for weight and quick change. The cinebot 30 with DJI 03 is also an excellent FPV drone.
I really want to like this drone but the battery bothers me. How am I supposed to know if the lipo is swelling? Also to fix the prop guard you have to replace the whole bottom plate. I do love the flight time and flight characteristics, but the cons have me leaning towards the cinelog20. What do you think?
I've flown mine about 6 or 7 times and I get about 4:30 per flight with the 550mah supplied battery. I am confused .... a friend and I both had these delivered within days of release and neither of us have the leds in the frame... I flight don't advertise it with leds in the frame... but you and mads tech both have leds in your frame???
@Hubert Aile very odd.... I'm also hugely disappointed with the durability of the ducts too... I've already cracked mine in 2 places after very minor bumps! This is no where near as durable as they are advertising it.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 I assure you mine is identical.. you can check my latest video and see... but I do not have the led strip.. nor does my friend... we are in the UK. But mads tech (uk) his DOES have the led strip also... 🤔
@@FPV-TV419 That is so strange. I'm unaware of iFlight having more than one model of this drone or even updating and still selling it under the same name.
Now that’s what I am talking about! I wonder what drones will be like 5 years from now. They will be either fantastic or they won’t exist because the government has ruined the hobby. Thanks for the great video.
Actually your probably right about the ladder. Fuck big tech and the government. They rob the fun out of the hobby. Punish the bad actors not the entire hobbiests (but they wont)
Micro nano barely visible and nearly silent, piggyback off the cell system for unlimited range and 2 hour battery time. So much auto flying we will be able to send big ones on errands to pick up mail, shopping, coffee.
Im more in the $250 “willingness to buy” range for this little chunk of featureless plastic cinewhoop from iflight. For $550, i expect more features and options.
If you lose connection it falls out of the sky like many of our FPV drones and we all know sometime fail-safe happen's once in a while for no reason. I'll do things with my AVADA or any of my DJI drones I won't do with my other 30 drones I give DJI that. But nothing fly's like a none DJI drone when it comes to FPV flying.
I flew this one 12 times before this review. No falling out of the sky occured. I did find that if the battery is very low (red light on tail) and the drone is on the ground, it will sometimes disconnects, but if you get it off the ground, it stays connected, but then due to limited power, it comes back down and powers off the motors.
Hi Captain! Great video...forgive me, will this work with the goggles and controller I have for the DJI FPV? The DJI Goggles V2 and the DJI controller 2? Many thanks indeed! 💕💕
This is interesting to me. I’ve been looking at kits to build my own quad, but this appeals to me if I decide to go with the dji goggles. I’ve ordered an Express LRS controller. What I’m wondering is if the Commando 8 ELRS model of this drone is compatible with the controller that I’ll be using. I guess I’m also just wondering generally if there different ELRS 2.4 GHz protocols. When I ordered the controller I thought it was going to work with a lot of systems but now I’m wondering if I’ll need to add modules for different drones.
2.4 ELRS is the most common and popular and every ELRS radio that is 2.4 will work with the receivers. The only stipulation is that the firmware on the radio and the receiver must be compatibe, so if you are running version 3 on the radio, you also need version 3 on the receiver.
Great review as always Steve , it confuses me how the heavy dji AVATA or Atleast heavy compared to this but it seems the avata has better battery life . I like the look of this one but I need to go on a sim first unlike the avata . I’ve not checked prices but I’m guessing this a lot cheaper that they Avata .
The AVATA was designed for people who fly the DJI MAVIC drones. It uses GPS and position hold and bottom sensors so that even your grandma could fly it. If you put the AVATA into full MANUAL mode, the stability sensors are still active so that they can rescue the beginner pilot if they get into trouble. All of this adds a pile of weight. It also makes the AVATA not fly like a common FPV drone.
I've gotten the chimera from iflight and their elrs receiver has all kinds of problems. I'd avoid getting their elrs receiver and just install your own if you want to fly a different radio. This looks like an avata killer. Especially now that the avata requires remote id.
Great review and thanks for making such a detailed video! Would you say the iFlight Defender 25 is a better choice for strictly interior (real estate) flights than the GepRC Cinelog 25 v2?
For interior you'd have to be an amazing pilot to fly such large drones. For indoors most people stick with 1.5" or 2" FPV drones, and the odd 2.5", but rarely every a 3" drone, simple due to the amount of power in such a confined space (you gonna mark up them walls & ceiling really bad).
Thanks for the info! Sounds like the Defender 16 or Cinelog 20 may fit my needs a bit better. Would you recommend one over the other for interior-only flights?
If you get the defender 25 with the DJI gps and controller 2. Will the drone have the restrictions same as the Avata. Will not turn on if near an airport for example/ Thanks for the great review, I think I'll get one if there are no flight restrictions.
- ACTIVATE the DJI 03 unit with the DJI ASSISTANT - Ensure your GOGGLES and DRONE and REMOTE are on the LATEST firmware - You bind everything by simply pressing the BIND BUTTON on the DJI 03 system (use a paper clip to push the button). Then bind your V2 Goggles by pressing the BIND button on the Goggles (first make sure you set the goggles to the DJI 03 Transmission.... it's an option in the menu) - Bind your remote by holding down the power button until it goes into bind mode
I have a 16yo that can fly my Mavik A2 & Mavik 3 pretty well however I’d like get him his own to do with what he chooses so I can get back to work with mine … What’s the price point ? You didn’t even give us a hint 🤔🤔🤔
Any FPV Drone on the market that has the DJI O3 system in it, along with a very high tech modern flight controller, is gonna be costly and you'll always be looking at prices in the $400 to $700 range. This one is in the $500 range.
Can you recommend an indoor drone that can be operated remotely over the internet? I am thinking it would be nice to be able to check on my house when I am out of town. A huge bonus would be if it could be told to land on a charging base - maybe that is asking too much.
Kindly inform me whether the Home point is visible during Goggles flight. Given the absence of GPS, it remains uncertain if this feature is accessible. Additionally, could you confirm the accuracy of the information stating that it cannot operate beyond a distance of 200 meters?
If there is no GPS module on the drone then there is no home point shown in your goggles. Where did you hear of this 200 meter range? That would certainly be very incorrect.
You always cover all the bases on questions.. extremely thorough.
Steve really knows his audience so well. I feel so laser-targeted in this video :D
Also you made this drone look great, the opening scene with that glow fx is epic:) Looks like a better option than avata for the battery option alone add the -250g :)
I myself am a newb and I definitely appreciate you using the radio because I have 0 knowledge of transmissions and GHz and all that stuff when it comes to RCs lol
I have a very helpful video on the subject coming out this week.
I lolled at your flightpath-LOVED THE SKILL CPT!!❤😂❤😂❤
Thanks Steve for the awesome video. Also you retro intros.....are the best. Love em.
Cool! Glad to hear you enjoy them.
Very interesting, thanks Steve 👍😃
Very nice I really like the new battery and antenna technology.
Great review covering everything that would be questionable.
Thanks Captain
I’m currently paying off an AVATA from a friend and I haven’t even had the chance to fly it since buying it. I did have a fly when my friend owned it and loved it, that’s why when I got the offer from my friend I jumped at the chance to get it. If I had the money I’d definitely be thinking about getting this smaller one though, just for flying around people that might be annoyed with the sound of the AVATA. It looks good.
The AVATA is a beginner DJI Drone, kinda like a DJI Mavic, so you or your Grandma could fly it without issue. It does have a MANUAL mode so that you can feel what it is like to fly Pro FPV and it gets you close to that but most AVATA users crash & destroy their AVATA learning to fly in MANUAL mode. The IFLIGHT DEFENDER 25 has no beginner modes so any Beginner trying it will crash it many times learning to fly. Since you are a newbie with the AVATA, I would fly it until you feel comfortable flying in MANUAL mode, and then you could easily fly drones like the IFLIGHT DEFENDER 25 and experience the difference.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 I should have said that I also fly fpv drones as well, I like the AVATA’s abilities to be both an fpv and cinematic drone in the one. Yes, it isn’t a true aerobatic drone but it is a good compromise between the two types. Thanks for the reply captain, I know exactly what you mean and appreciate your reply.
we really need someone to produce a good prop guard soon that plastic doesn't look like it can take a big hit neverminded the weight restriction , also wished someone showed a Gopro mounted on and flew with it
@@ohplease3327 OgDobo is going to rip them a new one , from what I gather this drone missed the mark a tad bit, but that is even subjective because its sole purpose was to be a decent flyer and under 250G not for it to be an Avata JR
When DJI came out with the 03 system, it was for the purpose of making the FPV drones lighter and no longer using a GoPro. I did a comparison of a GoPro Hero 11 and the DJI 03 system in my review of the iFlight 6" Evoque 03. I can't keep doing the same thing in every review.
dji avata "mini" under 250g... coming to your nearest dji stores soon... 😉
If DJI could make an UNDER 250 GRAM FPV drone, that would be awesome!
Thanks for another great review and thank you for the stickers you sent me
Awesome! Glad the stickers arrived.
cool music :)
Now that was a cool opening 😀
This little one looks great, sir!
Great review Captain Drone, very interested in the Defender 25 as I already have the Avata & it seems like a good next step into fpv proper. It might even break my addiction to DJI products lol.
My first was the DJI FPV drone and I thought it was the best thing ever, but I must say the entire world of FPV opened up to me once I starting flying Betaflight quadcopters. There is so much more out there than what DJI is offering at such a better price. You'll never look back! - I've got a whole wall of quadcopters now, but honestly the one I fly and enjoy the most is a simple little 3 inch freestyle quad perfect for doing flips and race gates around the backyard.
@@daniel.pendzich what is the three inch drone you speak of?
Not telling you what to do of course, but I agree with Daniel Pendzich- get a 3" or 5" freestyle with the 03 system since you already have the Avata for cinematic stuff. I have the defender with the previous camera system, but don't have an Avata. It does ok for freestyle, but not like an open prop that is made for more acrobatic movement. Ignore this if you are only interested in slow, cinematic flying.
You might be right to get a 3" sub-250g freestyle with O3 will have to have a think before I get another one.
@@marcsangiuliano4273 I got the dragon frog frame kit on Amazon for like 25 bucks, then built the 3 inch from spare parts, I'd assume it flies similar to the baby ape pro, but I put a vista in mine. It flies beautifully on a 3s lipo!
Thanks capt, I hope to have one of these next!
It's fast that's probably a good time flying thanks for all the info every question I thought of you answered before I look up the specs thanks for always keeping us up to date 👍
THANK YOU I WAS WAITING ON A REVIEW ON THIS!
Thanks Captain for posting; have been trying to decide which "serious" FPV to buy as at this stage, its not "my thing" so want to get it right!; great option and very tempting as it has the DJI Camera!; as an aside loved your Wife's "KIA" launch pad !!!!!
Shhhhhhh.... Don't tell my wife
This looks great I think k I'd rather have this then the AVATA!! Pretty quick too! Steve I just got the cinilog 35 performance 6s....it amazing. Thanks for the STICKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOUR WIFE ROCKS!!!! SO DO U....
Awesome! Glad the stickers arrived.
Awesome review !
Thankyou very much captain drone Mrs mercury and myself just got our stickers in the mail right now in newzealand! Yewww:)
Great to hear that they arrived!
It says on the website that they come standard with GPS in the list of changes. Unless I misinterpreted what I was reading.
Per the change log on the product page: "May 31, 2023: Defender 25 4S HD BNF comes with GPS installed by default."
I've been looking at the Avata for months now. But it just can't flip and spin and quickly and safely as this one. I know it's not a freestyle drone, but you can still do some decent freestyle with it. It freestyles better than the Avata from what I've seen, even though that's not necessarily the purpose.
If you can fly an FPV drone then this is a great drone. If you have no FPV Pilot skills, stick with the AVATA.
I'll be honest Steve? I've haven't tried any of those FPV's drones no matter what company? But that little FPV looks awesome?
Maybe one of these days I'll try it out? I'll try and buy the cheapest one possible just to crash it into a wall, or tree or something like that?
Thanks again for sharing Steve. 👍👍👍
The FPV hobby is one of those hobbies that most GPS Camera Drone pilots eventually get into (like myself). I have to warn you though... once you get into it, you're hooked for life and your heart rate will increase every flight.
I love your little blue Kia it’s cute 😃
That's my wife's ride... She certainly enjoys it.
Beautiful in the snow ⛄️
Nice review Steve. Kind of neat it can be below the 250 gram......👍
Yup, that is a hugh benefit
I really like the way you explained in your videos
Thank you
I would STRONGLY dissagree with this one been better than DJI Avata, unless you NEED that 250g limit.
I fly 5” APEX HD on Kiss that I build. I fly also Avata. Avata flies like on rails indoor.
Charging is like safe dream. Plug anywhere to USB C charger. Not even talking about safety of that batery, self discharging to safe levels, etc. For me it flies about 12+ minutes indoors (acro) and I land at 30% battery. It takes off, hovers and lands by itself if you wish. You can do hand take of/landing as I do (not touching ground in forest, dirt etc..
It has BRAKE button when it will stop when you mess up…. That button alone is pure gold for anyone learning. I would kill for that button when I started. I can now fly without problem, orbit, rolls… and I still love that option.
I would be carefull to say anything with O3 has same quality as Avata. Avata camera is so vibration free on those rubber mounts.
It has gimball you can adjust mid air. Yes you will use it. When I fly indoors I decrease angle and you see that angle in the googles while avata is hovering by itself…
It has GPS return…
Im 100% sure that Avata durability is faaaar superior to Defender. Its unbelievable durable.
I will not start discussion about component quality….
And the best…. Same price
I think you may have watched another vid. This was not a “Defender 25 vs Avata video”. Anyone deeply in the FPV hobby and camera drone hobby knows the differences between the two, and I only pointed out a few in this vid so that people didn’t get confused and think it was another stupid clickbait video about every product is better than DJI video.
Very good informative and interesting video! Thank you!
*"rapid prototyping"* is creating some absolutely amazing product in the pure BEV market at *INCREDIBLY NO LONG COSTLY PRICES* at the moment very much spot on with that to include imaging solutions and some really amazing bells and whistles now too absolutely true dat as well.
Sad to see how these items are being used as an entirely new type of fighting War but one side effect is that this be the case turns off many to the drone market driving prices in some cases *MUCH* lower but also increasing quality and the fun factor to start creating a right proper and hopefully true as in real as good image for these now in Ukraine anyways *TRULY* literal killing machines.
Be interesting to see how Artificial Intelligence starts to impact this market such that the item basically *"flies itself"* using preset cinematic modes which in theory anyways would create some truly amazing *"film"* (digital) product... especially as a kind of *"sport model"* too/as well/in addition/best just got better.
Great review as always!
Thanks for the heads up on this Steve. I might have to order one!
Good afternoon captain really nice view cool review
Nice useful review!
The thing that will make me Love it is 8 minute or greater flight time indoors with good penetration through multiple walls and floors
Nice set up
Definitely on my must buy for 2023!! Any chance you can do a video on how to bind the dji remote and goggles to the defender?
No video required because it is so simple. Just ensure both are on the same firmware, then press the link button on the drone, then press the link button on the goggles.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 please e..can you make an small video how to bind with dji? 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Very nice drone and good review Steve.
Thanks 👍
i am in love😍😍😍
There's two new Defender.
Denfender 16 and Defender 20
Would love to see a review from your channel 😁
Nice video GOD BLESS !!
I am impressed with this little craft. Soon, once I get going on my next project I will be looking for an ariel camera like this.
Being a newbie I fully understand your advice on moving slow with the various flight actions. Outdoors only for my needs anyhow.
Thanks for your video work, keep them coming.
In angle mode it’s the same speed as in acro, tried it and that’s my findings. Love your shows.
It should be faster in ACRO mode than ANGLE due to the angle of forward tilt.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 agreed but in angle mode the camera is max tilt and the angle of forward motion is the same as acro and if u go anymore in acro it flips over. Try next time u fly and see what u think.
@@enlightened9538 I have not tried this quad head to head in speed while in different modes, but all other quads over many years of use are all much slower in Angle mode.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 yes I would agree for sure, but I feel this one is different. Hence me saying u should try and see what u think. But I’m not professional like your self, but would love your opinion if u do try. Thanks again for all your replies.
I’m really tempted to get this lol so have the Protek 35 digital 6s but I barely fly it 😅
Thank you for sharing sir steve
Dying to see this thing finally it's here love to see more big stuff like rumors about inspire 3 wants your views on that
I mentioned in a previous video I have zero desire to buy the INSPIRE 3. I have a $12,000 INSPIRE 2 and I won't make that mistake again. Perhaps a make a video of this in the future.
Nice job once again
A nice giveaway for 2023. Keep smiling
Looks very nice for beginners but its very limited components wise. Ill stick to my self build fpv drone 😅
What's a good frame thats similiar in style to this Defender 25 & DJI Avata style layout?
Im looking to build something like this but i dont see any bare frames or kits in this enclosed one piece style..
Also what components are missing that you would consider upgrading parts for?
Also if this is a BNF isnt it not part of remote id as of right now so being under 250grams wouldnt matter or is that not how it works?
Excellent Tutorial Video, and Excellent FPV Drone. Thank You Steve.
that is typically what the digital antennas look like inside the plastic, so they decased it to fit inside the frame, clever.
Nice at under 250g but expensive considering its size and lack of flight time - I'm surprised its as expensive as it is given it has no avoidance etc, or kit with it for that matter. Camera is certainly nice image
FPV drones have no avoidance. The price is due to the DJI 03 Camera/recording/transmission system. Adds an extra $200 to the price.
So the larger DJI FPV drone claims to have obstacle avoidance, but it’s also much larger than most fpv drones. Definitely unlikely/unusual for smaller ones to have it 😅
Looks great buddy 👍👍👍👍
THis is so amazing keep it up!
Great video
Neat little drone. Would be good as a winter play around the house and goofing off outside. My only compliant is I don't see you putting any other camera on it.
No need for an external camera due to the high quality DJI O3 system built in.
has a mount for a gopro naked you can just feed off a standard 4s balance port adapter. the o3 air unit is all you need anyway
Great vid Cap
It's an Avata that wont uncontrollably fall out of the air when doing sharp turns!
This is true! My AVATA still falls out of the sky when flown in a tight turn.
The USB-C/microSD card slot also looks more accessible than the Avata. I wonder how a GoPro would mount tilted with the proprietary battery as opposed to a third-party battery. Thanks!
Another great review
It looks just like the one I brought down spying over my property. I was outside last week driving my Axial SCX lll crawler and it was hovering over my property so I turned off the truck, held the steering on the transmitter to the right, then kept pushing the bind button, after about the fourth push it came down at an angle and hit the side of my barn. I put it out of it's misery and buried it out in the pasture. Found it odd that no one came over to claim it. Ya the bind button, who would know?
If someone is spying on you, that means you are extremely famous worldwide. You see, if someone spent this much money on a drone to spy on Flynn Stone, then ya gotta be incredibly popular and your image is required everywhere. :-)
Keep up the great work! I have been very happy with my purchases!
Looking at some of your earliest content... like the Yuneec Typhoon, you were SO SERIOUS! Amazing to see you develop along with your channel, and it's obvious you have some fun while showing folks drones, RC vehicles, occasionally some great goofy things like the Flappy Bird ornithopter last year😉
Transition: Serious Geek 🤓 (boo) --> fun, yet edumacational geek 🤓 (YAY!)
Thanks. When I get bored I'll watch one of my old reviews and wonder... Who is that guy?
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 indeed! The transformation is complete!
Found how to now so all good, thanks.
looks like it's a contender to the avata... probably better after the dji updates... nice!
For those already in the FPV hobby, this is the "AVATA" most wanted. Under 250 grams, great camera, small, portable, and no silly options like optical flow, GPS, RTH, landing assistance, etc (that add weight to an FPV Drone).
Good afternoon really cool video nice review
Wow, you can get 3km on that little PCB antenna? Why is not everyone using these? They are in so many other electronics. You can find such antennas yourself in old laptops and WiFi routers.
Great video Steve! Would you recommend this quad over the GepRC cinebot30 o3 6s drone?
This is recommended for those who want a small size drone, smaller than the cinebot 30 with DJI O3. This quad shines if you have the entire package with the propretary batteries for weight and quick change. The cinebot 30 with DJI 03 is also an excellent FPV drone.
Really nice footage
I really want to like this drone but the battery bothers me. How am I supposed to know if the lipo is swelling? Also to fix the prop guard you have to replace the whole bottom plate. I do love the flight time and flight characteristics, but the cons have me leaning towards the cinelog20. What do you think?
I've flown mine about 6 or 7 times and I get about 4:30 per flight with the 550mah supplied battery. I am confused .... a friend and I both had these delivered within days of release and neither of us have the leds in the frame... I flight don't advertise it with leds in the frame... but you and mads tech both have leds in your frame???
4-5 for me and no leds strip 🤨
@Hubert Aile very odd.... I'm also hugely disappointed with the durability of the ducts too... I've already cracked mine in 2 places after very minor bumps! This is no where near as durable as they are advertising it.
If your Quad does not look exactly like the one shown in my video, then I am wondering what the heck Quad you have????
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 I assure you mine is identical.. you can check my latest video and see... but I do not have the led strip.. nor does my friend... we are in the UK. But mads tech (uk) his DOES have the led strip also... 🤔
@@FPV-TV419 That is so strange. I'm unaware of iFlight having more than one model of this drone or even updating and still selling it under the same name.
Now that’s what I am talking about! I wonder what drones will be like 5 years from now. They will be either fantastic or they won’t exist because the government has ruined the hobby. Thanks for the great video.
I hope you're right about the former!
Actually your probably right about the ladder.
Fuck big tech and the government. They rob the fun out of the hobby. Punish the bad actors not the entire hobbiests (but they wont)
Micro nano barely visible and nearly silent, piggyback off the cell system for unlimited range and 2 hour battery time. So much auto flying we will be able to send big ones on errands to pick up mail, shopping, coffee.
Thats a great video 🤩
Thank you 😁
Im more in the $250 “willingness to buy” range for this little chunk of featureless plastic cinewhoop from iflight. For $550, i expect more features and options.
The $550 is due to the DJI O3 camera system and the very expensive smart flight controller
Always great information
Can you test the toroidal propellers?
If you lose connection it falls out of the sky like many of our FPV drones and we all know sometime fail-safe happen's once in a while for no reason. I'll do things with my AVADA or any of my DJI drones I won't do with my other 30 drones I give DJI that. But nothing fly's like a none DJI drone when it comes to FPV flying.
I flew this one 12 times before this review. No falling out of the sky occured. I did find that if the battery is very low (red light on tail) and the drone is on the ground, it will sometimes disconnects, but if you get it off the ground, it stays connected, but then due to limited power, it comes back down and powers off the motors.
Impressive! Great review as usual
Hi Captain! Great video...forgive me, will this work with the goggles and controller I have for the DJI FPV? The DJI Goggles V2 and the DJI controller 2? Many thanks indeed! 💕💕
Yes
This is interesting to me. I’ve been looking at kits to build my own quad, but this appeals to me if I decide to go with the dji goggles. I’ve ordered an Express LRS controller. What I’m wondering is if the Commando 8 ELRS model of this drone is compatible with the controller that I’ll be using. I guess I’m also just wondering generally if there different ELRS 2.4 GHz protocols. When I ordered the controller I thought it was going to work with a lot of systems but now I’m wondering if I’ll need to add modules for different drones.
2.4 ELRS is the most common and popular and every ELRS radio that is 2.4 will work with the receivers. The only stipulation is that the firmware on the radio and the receiver must be compatibe, so if you are running version 3 on the radio, you also need version 3 on the receiver.
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 Awesome. Thanks !
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Amazing video!!! How many minutes do you get with the 1100mAh?
Hey Steve, any chance you might go deeper into FPV and review the new HDZero goggle free style system.
You never know, I could add those to my long list of items to checkout & review.
I have been waiting for this review.
Great review as always Steve , it confuses me how the heavy dji AVATA or Atleast heavy compared to this but it seems the avata has better battery life . I like the look of this one but I need to go on a sim first unlike the avata . I’ve not checked prices but I’m guessing this a lot cheaper that they Avata .
The AVATA was designed for people who fly the DJI MAVIC drones. It uses GPS and position hold and bottom sensors so that even your grandma could fly it. If you put the AVATA into full MANUAL mode, the stability sensors are still active so that they can rescue the beginner pilot if they get into trouble. All of this adds a pile of weight. It also makes the AVATA not fly like a common FPV drone.
I've gotten the chimera from iflight and their elrs receiver has all kinds of problems. I'd avoid getting their elrs receiver and just install your own if you want to fly a different radio. This looks like an avata killer. Especially now that the avata requires remote id.
Can you use the DJI controller 2 and goggles v2? This will be the deciding factor for me
Yes, watch my video entitled: CAPTAIN DRONE FPV FOR BEGINNERS EPISODE 12
Great review and thanks for making such a detailed video! Would you say the iFlight Defender 25 is a better choice for strictly interior (real estate) flights than the GepRC Cinelog 25 v2?
For interior you'd have to be an amazing pilot to fly such large drones. For indoors most people stick with 1.5" or 2" FPV drones, and the odd 2.5", but rarely every a 3" drone, simple due to the amount of power in such a confined space (you gonna mark up them walls & ceiling really bad).
Thanks for the info! Sounds like the Defender 16 or Cinelog 20 may fit my needs a bit better. Would you recommend one over the other for interior-only flights?
Nice review Capt👌🏼
Do any drones allow you to throw them in the air and then start the rotors and fly away. I think that would be a fantastic feature. André in Sydney
Yeah, set to horizon mode - toss - arm.
Drone should self-right and hover in place.
If you get the defender 25 with the DJI gps and controller 2. Will the drone have the restrictions same as the Avata. Will not turn on if near an airport for example/ Thanks for the great review, I think I'll get one if there are no flight restrictions.
Currently there is no such thing as DJI no fly zones in the FPV hobby
Nice video. Yeah not much common sense in the U. S. Lol. Stay safe.
Please. Can you say me how I bind with dji transmisor? And must I bind and activate the air unit with dji Googles v2?
- ACTIVATE the DJI 03 unit with the DJI ASSISTANT
- Ensure your GOGGLES and DRONE and REMOTE are on the LATEST firmware
- You bind everything by simply pressing the BIND BUTTON on the DJI 03 system (use a paper clip to push the button). Then bind your V2 Goggles by pressing the BIND button on the Goggles (first make sure you set the goggles to the DJI 03 Transmission.... it's an option in the menu)
- Bind your remote by holding down the power button until it goes into bind mode
@@CAPTAINDRONE798 thank you very much! 🙏😘
I have a 16yo that can fly my Mavik A2 & Mavik 3 pretty well however I’d like get him his own to do with what he chooses so I can get back to work with mine …
What’s the price point ? You didn’t even give us a hint
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Any FPV Drone on the market that has the DJI O3 system in it, along with a very high tech modern flight controller, is gonna be costly and you'll always be looking at prices in the $400 to $700 range. This one is in the $500 range.
Can you recommend an indoor drone that can be operated remotely over the internet? I am thinking it would be nice to be able to check on my house when I am out of town. A huge bonus would be if it could be told to land on a charging base - maybe that is asking too much.
See if you can get this: ua-cam.com/video/Kk4HOGa257k/v-deo.html
Great!!!
Kindly inform me whether the Home point is visible during Goggles flight. Given the absence of GPS, it remains uncertain if this feature is accessible. Additionally, could you confirm the accuracy of the information stating that it cannot operate beyond a distance of 200 meters?
If there is no GPS module on the drone then there is no home point shown in your goggles. Where did you hear of this 200 meter range? That would certainly be very incorrect.
Quick question Captain, is there an HD module for analog goggles to connect to the Defender or it only works with the DJI goggles?
If you want the DJI O3 Air unit in the drone, then it only connects to the expensive DJI FPV goggles
So if I were to buy a tiny whoop with a DJI O3 air unit. I can use the DJI controller 2 and gogs if I get PNP?
Yes, but you'd better watch this video first: ua-cam.com/video/zPf9b-X6cFw/v-deo.html