Restoring a 1916 pocket watch - and making a hand!
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- Today we have Ross' watch on the table, a Russian/Swiss pocket watch from 1916. Join us for a discussion of the history of Pavel Bure and a repair of the watch as well as the making of a new hand (or two) for it! We'll also delve into the details of how to erase your fingerprint if you ever need to!
00:00 Introduction
02:15 Removing the hands and uncasing the watch
03:03 Disassembling the keyless works
04:00 Disassembling the gear train
07:02 Pre-cleaning and cleaning the movement
10:08 Cleaning the case and crystal
12:07 Re-assembling the movement
19:16 Demagnetizing and timing the movement
19:52 Cleaning the dial
20:22 Cleaning the hands
21:43 Making a new minute hand
25:28 Blueing the hands
26:17 Adjusting the cannon pinion
26:56 Placing the dial and hands
28:13 Before and after
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Sir, I want to express my gratitude and admiration for your restoring my father's 105-year-old Pavel Bure pocket watch. I was amazed by the transformation of the watch in the end. You are a real MASTER, sir! I couldn't believe that you even managed to fabricate the new set of hands from scratch. I am so excited! My Dad would have been so glad that the old watch he used to carry in his pocket for 50 odd years looks and runs like new again. THANK YOU! You are THE BEST!
That's very nice to hear, thanks so much :) It's a beautiful watch that deserves some TLC!
I shared this video with a few of my friends - watch enthusiasts, if you don't mind of course.
@@FitOutPost I don't mind at all, of course, thanks for sharing it!
Wow this was truly amazing to watch! Seeing that hand making was very cool and unexpected as well! The before and after is impressive to say the least, will be checking out more soon. Bravo! 😎🍻👍
@@DavidSchwartzjr Thank you, David!
Hey Stian... It is just amazing how is it possible that a watch from 108 years ago, after giving proper care and love it istills ticking... I don't understand why people are not interested on these little wonders of engineering... I appreciate and enjoy very much you sharing your videos!! Regards from Mexico
Thanks so much, Francisco! 😊 And yes, I agree :)
My problem is that if you were to give me a working pocket watch to practise on, I would service it until it didn't work anymore! Thank you for your excellent video. Lucky owner!
Hi, just wanted to pop in and thank you, as this video has been VITAL in helping me troubleshoot and repair my great-great-grandfathers 1883 Bure that's been out of commission since the 1940s!
Great to hear, Oleksii :)
Absolutely ridiculous! Who decides that they aren't happy with a hand, so decides to make a one? You could have reused the old one or bought one, but no, you feel the need to demonstrate how inadequate I am 😊. You, good sir, are a true master, and... your videos are not only informative, but funny/engaging also. Please continue putting out your videos!
Don't take it personally, Rick! 😂 Thanks so much for your comment and more to come soon :)
"... and that's why I had to make another hand!" You're amazing.
😊 Thanks!
Thanks for the video, I enjoyed watching it. As a German I couldn’t help and smiled as you said “Schraubenlöser“
That's my best German! 😂
Your pronunciation is pretty good! 👍🏻
"Brute Force!" the mantra of the watchmaker. When you started talking about Pavel Bure's NHL career I laughed out loud. As always, fine insight and a nice fix. I have to service my late mother's pocket watch. I got it recently in the estate and I've bought a couple of donor movements to make sure I have the parts I need. Love your work, sir. You always make my week better.
That's very nice to hear, Clay, thanks! It's always difficult to work on old pocket watches, but the Americans were the first to industrialize their production, so the parts are often interchangeable. Best of luck!
Holy cow....what a beautiful restoration of that watch.. From start to finished I was captivated..especially the tooling of a new minute hand and the dial. Superb..Incredible work. What a trip. Kudos to you.
Thank you very much, Thomas!
Wow, never dull. Brings me back to my NROTC days
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another great restoration, and the skills to lathe a hand that small were stunning!
Thanks a lot, Jon! And feel free to share the video on Facebook or Instagram 😎
El cañon de minutos es un sistema muy distinto al de los calibres más modernos,,, para sacar extraer y ajustar,,,, son tres piezas,,, muy bueno su canal,,,, felicitaciones.
I think this was my favourite of all your videos I’ve watched. Fascinating!
Revolting!
I really enjoyed watching the lathe work. I think most would have just bought a premade hand. The dial turned out better than I expected it could.
😂 It's more fun to make a hand :) And the denture cleaning works very well on these enamel dials.
I agree, the dial came out surprisingly well.!
Bolshevik Revolution Stian. My father had a life long friend who came from Norway. Marty and my Dad was friends for almost 60 years until they both passed away less than a year apart. There is something so therapeutic and calming watching your videos Stian and I love learning about the history of the watches you work on. And you worked in a quote from Monty Python. Watching you make the second hand was more than interesting since old watches were made in a similar fashion. Beautiful restoration Stian. Cheers from this 70 year old retired coot living the dream in Tennessee.
Thanks so much, Bob, that is very nice to hear :)
Absolutely brilliant! What I love about watching videos like these is learning all the little tips & tricks that you can only get from someone with years of experience.... that denture cleaner on the dial is brilliant. It was one of those "of course!" lightbulb moments for me when you said that it gets all the dirt out of the cracks, because _of course_ the thing that makes the crack noticeable is the dirt trapped in it! 👍
Glad you enjoyed it! 😊
Now that's watch making! Very cool way to make replacement parts. Love your work and sense of humor :)
Thank you very much!
Very cool. The first video I've seen the blue-ing of the hands. Thanks for taking the time to keep creating these wonderful videos.
Thanks for watching them! And feel free to share the video on Facebook or Instagram 😎
A very well done restoration. I was truly amazed at how well that dial cleaned up, as well as your skill making a new minute hand.
I love all your video's, so much knowledge and being a dad of small children myself, i even enjoy the jokes. It's unbelievable that you you hand made your own minute hand. I follow a number of watch repair channels and I've never seen that. Not even Mark lovick does that. The channel 'clickspring' springs to mind, but he made a clock, not a watch. Excellent work, keep it up.
Thanks so much, Jorrit! It's not very common that one has to make a hand, that's most likely the reason you don't often see it. It's not actually that difficult and most watchmakers should be able to do so. But most watchmakers rarely get their hands on these old watches :)
Wow! Now I understand Lange's source of inspiration for my 1815. What a lovely pocket watch. I loved the part where you machined a new hand. Thank you for sharing your skills and sense of humor!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Watch this guy work with pegwood. His stick handling is incredible. The bluing is just the icing on the cake. And did you see him take the face off? What a pro.
Thanks for watching! What's up with the sarcasm?
@@VintageWatchServices Not sarcasm. It's just me thinking like the Canadian I am. :)
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I'm so happy that watchmaking/repairing keeps you out of the padded room!
Only barely 😉
Truly impressive work, especially with the hands. Just for reference (or people not familiar with the metric system ;-): the most common pencil leads size for mechanical pencils is 0.7mm. This hand is 0.4mm thick.
Very interesting watch, from the brand history to the bimetallic balance. It cleaned up beautifully.
BTW on top admiring your skills, I also love your humour: "Brute force is the solution to any issue. Honestly that is the key reason why I chose to go into watchmaking." :-)
😁 Thanks so much, Pierre-Yves!
The Bolshevik Revolution. My grandfather was a Tsarist Air Force pilot and fought for the White Russians before fleeing, with many Tsarists, to points all over the map. He settled in Shanghai, which had a sizeable Russian population. My dad was born there but had to flee himself in the mid-40s as China was turning communist.
Am waiting for my turn when the US turns communist so I can settle in…Norway!
Thanks Stian for all the great and inspirational work you do on this channel.
Norway is more communist than the US. Pick another country...
very, very nice...amazing, more then 100 years old and after a service running like made yesterday...nice bevelled finish on the bridges so not a cheap one i presume? Love the making of the new hand and the broaching, real expertise. Very rewarding finishing a watch like this I guess...well done and thanks for sharing
Thanks so much, Rich! The performance is indeed very impressive, so it is a really well made watch. And yes, it's a lot of fun bringing out the lathe and files for some fiddly work every now and then :)
And feel free to share the video on Facebook or Instagram!
@@VintageWatchServices as the owner states, a true master Stian...like in Germany the systen of gesel and master watchmaker...the Steradent trick on the enamel dial is a good tip too....
That dial turned out amazing. Beautiful piece.
Thanks a lot, John! And feel free to share the video on Facebook or Instagram 😎
Ahh.. I watched many Pavel Bure games here in Vancouver back in the 90's. What a great player. Seems like a hundred years ago... back when my nose hair was growing faster than my ear hair.
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Seriously, man! I love your dry humor! Keep up the great content!
Glad you enjoy it!
That was just amazing!, from a master watch maker. Thank you for all that information, never seen a hand being made before. Never been introduced to a split balance before!. Really enjoyed that. Many thanks. Adrian.
Thanks so much, Adrian!
Another awesome video as I learn something new every episode. Thank you!
Glad to hear it!
Denture cleaner. Brilliant. Learned something new today
Great restoration! Really enjoy your commentary during your restorations. Keep up the great work!
Cheers!
Thanks so much, Angel! And feel free to share the video on Facebook or Instagram 😎
I love a watch dial /face that screams the time for all to see .
It's a nice design for sure!
The hand creation was a joy to behold- and the dial cracks are almost invisible! What a runner it is too! Bravo!
Excellent work. I've sent this video to my friends in Norway. You mention being from Norway during the service. And I think the odds are slim that they will dig in your old back yard. 😃
Thanks for sharing! And I pray you're right... 😁
What a GREAT service - Thanks a lot !
Thanks for the hockey shout out. Thanks for the history.
WAO LOOKING GREAT AGAIN
Nice to see a watch maker at work with a keen eye for detail one of my favorite channel's always interesting.
Thanks a lot, Chad! ☺️
Brilliant! Love the way that dial cleaned up with the denture cleaner... 🙂
It works very nicely for these old enamel dials!
Simply amazing the hand making & stunning results .
Thanks a lot, Ted, very cool to hear :)
A pocket watch with a train on it was exactly what got me into watchmaking years ago as well!
Nice restoration! To remove that kind of cannon pinion, I use a staking set, with support on the train side, hammering down on the end of the arbor stickning out from the cannon pinion.
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Wow! Great job. I really like the Pavel Bure watches.
Awesome job making the watch hands!
Beautiful work !
Thanks so much, Claire-Lee!
This one was Top!!! A lot of nice information to try any day soon. The cleaning of the dial was a nice hint!
Thanks a lot, Henrique! And feel free to share the video on Facebook or Instagram 😎
Amazing i have a number of old pocket watches. I love them
Very enjoyable UniqueWatch!!
THANKS for another great video,very interesting watching a MASTER WATCHMAKER AT WORK !
Glad you enjoyed it, Greg! 😊
Stian, how you amaze us with your watch repairing skills. Not only restoring the watches, but making parts using a lathe even though it is a minute hand. It requires tremendous skill and patience. I feel you should take online coaching classes, of course on a chargeable basis. Many, including me would benefit from your knowledge.
Thanks so much for that, K! I'll continue making videos for now :)
Gorgeous work. I admire your skills
Thanks so much :)
Stian it's great to see more house hold items being used in the restoration. Great work as always. Keep well from NZ
Thanks a lot, Bruce!
great restoration,and the skills
Thanks so much, Itzhac :)
What a beauty! You added value to the world with that restoration.
Thanks so much, Dan, that's very kind of you :)
Brilliant tip on the denture cleaner.
Very nice !
That's a beautiful restoration and really interesting for me to see how a hand was made 👏🏼
Thanks Ian! There are more than one ways to make a hand, and this is one :)
I heard you mention Cape Cod. I am on the cape and just recently started working on watches because of watching videoed like this. Thank you very much for this content, I’m having so much fun learning this.
Very cool to hear, Stephen!
Being from Vancouver Canada when I saw Pavel Bure all I could think about was his amazing career here in the ice for the hole of my younger years!
LOL Glad you through that in @5:50
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Amazing workmanship
Thanks a lot, Frank! And feel free to share the video on Facebook or Instagram 😎
Loving your vids as I go through them. It was interesting hearing about that pocketwatch with the train engraving you saw when you were 15. The only pocketwatch I have is a 15 jewel Longines from the 1920's and what does it have on the back only a steam train. 👍🏻🙂 It's what attracted me to it. I believe it was issued by the Serbian railway at the time. Incredibly good timekeeper even today. Gains a couple of seconds per week on my nightstand.
Thanks! Yes, a lot of pocket watches have trains engraved on them 😁 Most of the time that doesn't mean anything, but some were indeed issued to the railway personnel for accurate timekeeping. Very impressive timekeeping of your old Longines, so that might be one of those!
@@VintageWatchServices It's got the Cyrillic SDZ crest of Serbian railways engraved above the train. Longines along with Zenith and Tissot supplied them with watches from around 1890 up to the 30's and were in use until the 1960's. They were a private purchase by workers, subsidised by the railway, so they tended to be well looked after. Longines did a limited edition homage of both pocketwatches and wristwatches to them a few years ago. With the train on the back of course. 😁
@@MrGrentch Very nice! Sounds like a real keeper :)
Incredible. I agree, you are a master.
Thanks Gerardo, but I wouldn't call myself that :) I learn something new every time I work on a watch, and that's what makes it so rewarding!
Very impressive work, "nicely done".
Thanks a lot, John :) And feel free to share the video on Facebook or Instagram 😎
Some say that you should leave some patina on the watch face, letting it show it's age gracefully. It's up to the client though, and what they want. I really enjoyed learning this tip for whitening the enamel dial. It looked great.
Thanks for watching, Chris! The denture cleaning pill doesn't really whiten the dial, it just cleans it up. The issue with enamel dials is not patina (as enamel doesn't really discolor), the issue is that they are almost always cracked. The cracks are jagged and thus attract dirt, making them much more visible. The denture cleaning pill cleans this dirt and thus makes the dial look much better :)
Beautiful job thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching it, Bill!
THEON, I LOVE POCKET WATCHES, THAT WAS GREAT, GREAT VIDEO, GREAT JOB...
Hi Tiaan, thank you for sharing the making of the watch hand. I need to also make one for a pocket watch. Regards Mark Maddison
Thanks Mark! Good luck with it :) Stian
Really enjoyed the detail in this video. Now I know i can make watch hands if needed.
Thanks so much JD! I've watched your videos for tips also :) This way of making a hand is useful for simple and fully symmetrical shapes, but if you need more intricate shapes the old school way is by using flat stock and needle files.
Outstanding watch repair bravo:)
Thanks Larry!
Another great video. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Well, I haven't found the answer to your question about 1917, but I'm sure someone has already answered. But if somehow they haven't - the Russian Revolution that deposed the Tsar, of course. I much enjoy watching folks service and repair old, mechanical watches.
Thanks so much and yep, that's the main event of 1917 :)
Another wonderful video: thank you so much for sharing it with us.
Thanks for watching it :)
Very good work here 👍🏾
Thanks for sharing
Thanks a lot, Jack!
Brilliant
Nice restoration! Dial is soo much better now. Some hints for that canon pinion which is not canon pinion it's conical pin which goes thru complete watch use Horia Jeweling tool with flat top and hollow bottom to push that pin out. And it should be tight as it is and it's better to use staking set or again Horia tool to gently push it back with flat support from bottom. I struggled lot of time until I found this trick. It works excellent and prevents parts from damage.
Thanks a lot for that tip! I used a staking tool in the end to get the pin out of the "cannon pinion", but it's the first time I've worked on this kind of solution. The "cannon pinon" was still far tighter than necessary, so I think it's beneficial to open it up a little bit.
@@VintageWatchServices I know it so well it make me lot of headache from the beginning. Until I found mentioned solution. Only one another watchmaker used the same solution but I found it later. Here it is ua-cam.com/video/RNc1mU_xLcg/v-deo.html
Surely enjoyed the whole watch restoration especially making of the replacement hand of the watch. Amazing of the perfect accomplishment and unique skills. Just like an artisan of the old doing it by hand. Cheers and looking forward to more of your watch restorations.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Happy to keep 4 vintage pocket watches 2 of which are english fusee made approx in 1890s@@VintageWatchServices
Superb work and excellent commentary. The wife was wondering how watchmaking could be so funny ,)
That's very cool to hear! 😂
Fantastic skill. 👍
Thanks a lot, that's very kind :)
I like the idea of turning the hand rather than simply filing it to shape from flat stock. It will presumably ensure a much more symmetrical result.
Thanks, Andrew! That is indeed a very important reason for turning the hand rather than filing it :)
Love your work..........
Thanks so much, Mark!
Muy bueno! Hermoso reloj. Saludos desde Argentina!
Muchos gracias, Daniel!
Yup. This was gooood! 👍
Thanks a lot! And feel free to share the video on Facebook or Instagram 😎
Amazing job!!!
Thanks so much, Joshua!
Another amazing restoration. Addictive watching (excuse the pun). All the best Mick🇬🇧
Many thanks!
I like the quick-set GMT. Very impressive.
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beautifull job to one of the most big watchmaker I’ve ever seen
Thanks a lot, Ricky, that's very kind of you 😊
Love these videos . Love mechanical watches .from Scotland .
Thanks a lot, George! Greetings from Switzerland :) And feel free to share the video on Facebook or Instagram 😎
Unless I’m greatly mistaken blueing steel can be done in two ways, chemical blue like they
do on gun barrels etc. or temper thermal blueing. The process of temper blueing is a
process which reduces the hardness of steel to ensure it is suitable for specific purposes.
So when you blue a watch hand you’re using thermal blueing. That is simply oxidisation on
the surface of the steel. From 350 degrees to 600 of more degrees will give you straw
to dark greyish colours. But it is just surface oxidation it can be removed easily no need
to discard something if it’s gone to far and the colour you wanted is lost. Just cool it re finish
the surface with abrasive to remove the oxidation and re heat. Quenching when the colour is
reached will keep it permanent.
Hello Cat, that's correct. Sometimes you'll hear the terms "cold blueing" for the chemical process and "hot blueing" for the thermal process. When preparing steel for watch parts you would first harden it by heating it to cherry red and then quenching it in water or oil. The steel is very hard but also very brittle after this, so you then temper it to make the steel suitable for use without breaking. The tempering process also creates a layer of oxydation, which goes through a series of colors. The blue color is not only decorative but also indicates a very suitable balance of hardness and strength.
You'll also see screws painted blue, btw... :)
Thank you
Thanks for watching, Randy :)
BRILLIANT!!!!
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Great grandfather to the iPhone right there!
😂 Very limited app selection however!
For a second i thought the great ice hockey player, Pavel Bure, was getting into pocket watches
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I learn something every time I watch your videos, top job ! Denchure tablets are an excellent treatment for enameled dials. Thanks😁👍
🙋♂️🏴 Brilliant video what fantastic skills you have.
Thanks so much, John :)
Three piece suits have been back in style for a while now. If you wear one consider getting a pocket watch and chain for your waistcoat.
Yep, pocket watches are more in demand than they have been in a century! 😁
Another beautiful restoration. So enjoyable to see your art in action. You always make all of this look so effortlessly easy. Even though I am certain the brute force needed must be very tasking throughout the process. 😄
I was blessed to enheriet my great Grandfathers Elgin pocket watch years ago and have always been fascinated by its beauty. If you would like to do another service of a, guessing here, approximately 100 year old time piece?? I would gladly send it your way. It has not been serviced in several years but still runs fairly well.
Thank you for your videos they have been my favorite thing to view on UA-cam in the past several weeks!
Hello Jared, thanks for watching and for your kind words :) I am unfortunately so under water nowadays that I cannot take on any servicing work... It might change in a few months but if you want your watch serviced now I'm sure there are watchmakers a bit closer to home who can do a really good job for you.
@@VintageWatchServices thank you for your response. And an update on my post. I thought my Great Grandfather's watch was an Elgin... and it's not. Its a Hamilton lever set railroad grade.the only numbers on the movement are 247010. And this confuses me. I can not see the normal model # anywhere on the movement. Wondering now if it may be one of the more rare timepieces from that period. The jewel sets are blue sapphire from what I can see and is stamped 17 jewel on the movement.
Anyway please keep me in mind when you find more time please as I think in my honest opinion....you would love to use this in one of your service videos.
Master watchmaker
Thanks so much, but I would not quite call myself that :) Traditionally, the master watchmaker would be able to make an entire watch by hand, and I'm not there. I hope to be some day, but still a lot to learn!
Incredible 👍 thanks
Thanks so much, James! ☺️