His Grandfather's Vintage Watch Stopped Working While Gardening...
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2022
- Marshall gets his hands on a vintage Tudor Oyster watch from the 1950s! This is a highly sentimental piece that belonged to the owner's grandfather, but disaster has struck; the watch has stopped running and the winding crown won't go back in! Join Marshall as he tries his hand at getting this watch back on the wrist of the owner!
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There was a twin to this watch given to my grandfather's brother Sam. It also had an inscription. Sadly it's gone missing over the years since Sam passed away. It's probably in someone's desk drawer in the Okanogan, Canada. My grandfather was a truck driver and Sam hauled logs up and down the Columbia river in Canada with a tug boat and both watches survived. I sent this video to Sam's daughter (my cousin, Penny) and when she saw the watch she instantly saw images of her dad. She really enjoyed it, as did I. Thank you again, Marshall. You did such a wonderful job bringing my old watch back to life. It's never looked this good and this cool before. Having worn it for close to 35 years now it's become a part of me. When it stopped running and Rolex sent it back I thought I'd never get to wear it again. I really cherish it and very much appreciate how much you care about these old things and bring us all along for the ride. These old watches are a reminder of what life was like before everything turned digital. We need to hang on to them for as long as we can. And for the record, I take it off now whenever gardening.
Good story. Thanks. Wise move to take better care of it. Precious memories.
Did Rolex give a reason why they wouldn't work on it? Did they no longer have replacement parts because of how old it was?
@@justinchristoph3725 I have run into this with vintage watches as well...it just a money/time issue as Marshall mentioned.
@@justinchristoph3725 They simply said that they considered the watch to be “vintage” and no longer had parts for it. I took the watch to a local high-end jeweler who told me that Rolex requires all service on their watches to be sent to Rolex in New Jersey. So they sent it to Rolex and it was then returned. All communication with Rolex was through the jeweler.
Lovely story and lovely watch!
So i recently turned my hobby of watch repair into an actually paying job at a jewellers where i live and your videos were one of the major inspirations for me to go for it so... thank you!
Can you say approximately how much a jewelry shop would charge for a repair like this?
@@Bill23799 probably varies a lot based on your location. I wouldn't trust any small buisnesses in a mall with something like this, or find the prices of the corporates to be reasonable. Outside of those 2 categories there's only a very small handful of watchsmiths in my area, so i would expect them to be nearly as costly as the corporates.
@@Bill23799 Over $200
Please tell me ur in Canada. I need my Grandfathers watch repaired. Iv been told its so old that it cant be fixed
@@nathanmonahan6157 Whatever shop I stop in I would only trust a family heirloom like this to a man with a steady hand and gray hair.
But really what is the general cost to strip a watch down completely. Clean all the parts and them reassemble and lubricate it. A Full service. Is that even done anymore? Do modern watchmakers just open a watch up, saturate it with WD-40 and then blow it out with an air compressor? Hehe.
News flash, most people aren't staying for the watches, you could be taking apart a ceiling fan, it doesn't matter. You're a fantastic teacher and you hold attention like a magnet. Keep em' comin!
I could care less about watches themselves. I love seeing the precision, the detail, the clear explanations of why and how that don't meander or dip into storytime too much. Oh and sweet Jesus the specialty tools and clever repair techniques that I didn't even know existed! I have a deep love of specialty tools that have dedicated singular purposes. This is a like an ADHD-ASMR type video with a niche OCD-handyman flavor. 🤣 It could be ceiling fans, sure; hell, it could be sump pumps at an oil refinery and I would still watch this guy. One of the few channels I watch that I never once felt the need to turn up the playback speed. There are some auto mechanics I watch too but always on 1.25x or more 😆
Well I’m for the watches AND the narrative 😊
So true!
My opinion also !
Maaan, that strap was the perfect finishing touch on this project. Marshall, this was a success by any definition of the word - especially since you fixed what Rolex wouldn't touch. Congratulations! .. and thanks for sharing it with us.
Yeah, that strap choice is perfect. Emphasises all the best parts of the watch including the patina.
Yes and don’t forget now the owner can see the inscription! Wow didn’t he look awesome and happy with his new watch! Loved that
markings on the strap almost match the patina on the face. gorgeous.
Just a little trick from the Aerospace-Industry: If you want to save or protect a thread in a soft metal, use something called a Helicoil. Its basically a spring made from a wire that has a specific shape so that it can engage to threads on the outside while forming a threaded hole on the inside. Basically to save this watch, it would need to be drilled, a new (special) thread needs to be formed (Helicoil supplies every Kit with a special tap) and then the helicoil needs to be inserted. This actually produces a stronger thread in softer metals then just cutting a perfectly fine thread in the metal itself. Its basically used everywhere in Aerospace, from Planes, over Jet Engines, to Rockets. Its not cheap but works very well. Though im not sure if there is a Helicoil available for the threads used here or if there is enough space to form a bigger hole.
As someone in my 40s, I can't believe I teared up a bit seeing the owner hold the watch with a giant smile on his face. I was all good until that point. I can't imagine the joy he received having it returned in great working order (great beat times on the machine). Nicely done on the restoration!
Thank you :)
Sitting here watching you service and repair this amazing watch and my daughter walks by, sees the video and asks, "Hey, Dad, does watching this kind of video get our gears going"? I respond, "Yes". Long silence before she says, "Great way to pass the time". Choking back the laughter I invited her to leave me alone. Great stuff on this one and what a beautiful watch! Cheers!
She knows how to use the language!
No need to "dial" it back. Those are some high quality puns. My daughters just cringe when I watch watch videos.
Wait a minute, that's a second-hand joke...
I think he should not have epoxied the fitting back in. What he should have done was put the JB Weld in the hole and then tapped the JB weld. The JB-Weld thread would have been fine and the piece would be removable.
@@tarstarkusz I'm afraid you don't understand the situation completely. The fitting had two sizes of thread; one fits the case, the other the inside of the Crown. The fitting had to be installed the way he did it.
Marshall: How about an episode just on timing watches... This is a mysterious thing always done off camera. Just regulate the time of three or four or five watches on camera...
Im no expert but i believe Its just moving the regulator on the balance tiny amounts and waiting to see if its helped on the time graph. Would still be cool to see it and his thought process though while doing it though.
I second this, I'm very curious to know how this part works. Yeah there's surely some other UA-cam video out there already that probably covers it well enough, but it want Marshall to explain it to me, lol. He's always got such a great and thorough presentation.
He also stopped putting his repairs on the chrono. What's that about?
@@machooke4846 Move the stud (end of the hairspring) to correct the beat error first (difference between the tick and the tock). Then, move the compass needle to adjust the timming. Hairspring shorter, movement runs faster... Just use a plastic stick or screwdriver to push against the stud or compass... GL
How does that time checking device actually work?
Marshall. Best time of the day is seeing that notification comes from you. Big Hugs from Germany to USA. (:
Same here bud.
Canada
Bitte begeben Sie sich zu Bett, es ist schon nach Mitternacht.
Wristwatch Revival the owners vintage watch
Well said !!!
@@bravado2809 Morgen ist Sonntag. Lass mich ausschlafen. Hahahaha. Hugs from Brandenburg by the way. (:
Im a transmission mechanic by trade, so when you talk about the rewarding feeling you get when you tear something down, clean the "patient" up, start the investigatory work to identify and resolve the issue(s), then put it all back together. The sense of pride you feel is unmatched because you know you put your all into it.
I'm sure that's why you gravitated toward watchmaking. Once a mechanic always a mechanic in everything that you do.
I'm extremely happy I randomly stumbled across your channel.
Keep up the superior work, Marshall!
Side note: When in doubt, JB weld it !!
Another area where "new tech" seems less repairable/disposable... thanks for "keeping the faith"!
Hi Marshall, it's just coming up to 20:50 in the UK, according to the 130-year-old pocket watch my grandfather gave me, and I've got to thank you for giving me the confidence to get into fixing a timepiece that professional watchmakers told me was beyond repair and wasn't worth anything anyway. You can't put a price on the family connection, but I've got loads of model engineering tools so it turned out I only needed some hand levers, an oiling kit and some taper pins to do the rebuild despite the scary fusee chain mechanism. Job done and it's keeping great time!
The customers smile say’s it all, well done
How awesome to see the owner's smile holding his heirloom watch. Thanks Marshall, another great video.
I was going to say exactly the same thing. The story behind these old watches is as interesting as watching the repair process.
The thing is, I learn and enjoy your videos because I am learning along the way with you, and that's fantastic. Thanks again great job.
The smile from the owner says all that needs to be said. Great job, great outcome. Thanks for sharing this Marshall.
Absolutely gorgeous. Your expertise is astonishing. It's like watching an artist at work.
You are forever a part of this families story. I finally ordered an inexpensive watch maintenance kit and cleaned up my desk in preparation for and Elgin pocket watch! If I don’t destroy it I’ll let you know!😂😂 Thank you for the inspiration and guidance!! You do amazing work!
Wow, when the shock mount jewels got re-oiled the movement picked right up and happy.
Great Work Marshall, this is mechanical joy.
Pleasure to watch your channel too.
Marshalll. As long as it makes you smile, you're doing the right thing. Thank you!
This one was really emotional for me. I had a really great relationship with my own grandfather and I can imagine how much this meant for the owner. Great work Marshal.
Another great piece restored to full working order. Thank you Marshall for sharing your passion with the rest of us.
What a great back story for this watch! I also have a Tuder Oyster Royal that my Grandfather has passed to my father then to me. The watch also isn't running, partly because no jewelry shops around here will service it, but you have just inspired me to try and get it fixed again! Love your content.
(As far as I can tell my Oyster is from the 50s as well)
Another AWESOME restoration Marshall. Well done on getting that beauty ticking and paying respect to all of its battle scars. It is obvious that that watch was (and still is) worn and enjoyed. That dial has had a life and a history that should never be erased.
Once again you put the puzzle back together and put a smile on another proud owners face.
I can't wear a watch and haven't for over 35 years, but love watching what you do. I actually have my first watch I got as a young child. A snoopy watch and It still works but I'm sure it needs cleaned really bad.
Interesting, I cannot wear a watch as well. I could never get used to having something around my wrist. Must be something psychological with me. I do love timepiece movements; they are a marvel of innovation.
I have my first watch too! Miss Piggy from the late 70’s 👍
I have tried every type of strap there was for a watch but all of them make me break out with a bad rash so I don't wear them anymore
Hi Ron. You just brought back amazing childhood memories about a Snoopy watch too. Many thanks. Hope you get yours cleaned and running forever.
I found your channel and ever since is like that tv show you can’t stop binging, it is mesmerizing the work you do and the love you put into every single repair. I am a watch enthusiast and by no mean a watch maker but again love your videos. Thanks and keep up the good work!!!
Me too. Never thought I find something like watch repair so interesting and fascinating. Then again he explains it well and makes it look easy. When he shows it fully disassembled it actually doesn't seem like that many parts.
Thank you to the owner for showing his pleased face at the end. Its good to see you happy. I hope you enjoy your Grandfather's watch for many years and pass it down the family. Best Wishes.
I’ve been watching your channel for a while now and just in awe of the amazing things that you have done. I’ve got a watch from my grandfather that he received from working at Wells Lemont that I can remember him wearing everyday before he passed. I inherited it and wore it until it just stopped. I’d love to see it run again and wear it like he did. I’ve now worked at my company for over 25 years and didn’t get anything as cool as this watch. Let me know if you would be interested in seeing this.
Wow, the watch is gorgeous, and the dial is just wow! Currently watching this as I repair my own watch!
Marshall, thank you.
Your vids have a meditative quality for me.
Be well bud
Be well all of your commenters too. Grand community!
This might be my favorite video of yours yet! I dont know if it's the sentimental value of the watch or what but I love this episode so much thank you!
Absolutely wonderful. Every minute of your time is priceless!
your channel inspired me to get into watches, and now i have been repairing and collecting vintage clocks! just wanna say keep doing what you’re doing!
I found your channel a little while ago, and I'm in that group that would never get into the hobby myself, but I've gone through nearly all of your videos, and along with learning a whole lot about watches, I find your content oddly satisfying and calming. I always look forward to new videos.
What can I say. You have put Humpty Dumpty back together again and put a smile on someones face
Watching these videos making me so much joy . Thanks !
That is just beautiful bringing back to life a cherished watch. Well done.
Something that might be worth looking into for stuff like this in the future is helicoil threads, they come in kits with a drill and a tap and are sort of like springs, you drill and tap to a slightly larger size and thread the helicoil in leaving you with the original thread inside.
They can be a bit fiddly to get right but generally work really well.
Wow, they make helicoil repair kits this small?
Like the other commenter said, they don’t come this small. Helicoils aren’t for sealing either.
@@davidthefat ah, I knew they made them quite small, the smallest we have are 3mm which seems pretty close.
I like the helicoil option......it's a workable solution
If my attitude is a bit off kilter your channel is so relaxing it fixes the attitude. I agree with you on not cleaning all the years of patina off the dials, to me you are the Bob Ross of watches and an expert at revival.
Always a great day when we hear from Marshall. Another great video, and outcome.
Repair and commentary exceptional as usual !
Thank you
Very, very well done. I really enjoy your videos (all of them!) and the true passion you show - keep on doing many more of those great jobs !
Thanks Marshall. Always nice to see a piece of history restored.
So fascinating to watch your skills set grow over time. Can't wait for the next one!
Amazing job Marshal. You have turned a magic player into a wristwatch revival fan!
Love it! Being older and having experience of them when they were more widespread this is exactly how the local watchmaker in a small town would have worked on this beauty back in the day.
Coming up with affordable workaday solutions as in the crown tube so that the owner could wear the watch once again. The strap is a perfect choice in both colour and texture as well. This type of watch is the most valuable of all, an heirloom watch.
Fantastic! The dial patina is spectacular, and your strap choice is spot on. What a treasure!
Great to see the reaction of the owner. Masterfully done, especially the part where you left the dial as is.
Keep up the great work.
Hello, Marshall. Your skill set is constantly improving. This watch show off many of them. Your array of tools is also impressive. Together you saved a beautiful old watch. Congratulations. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
That...was just an awesome service and repair. Loved it to pieces...especially because it's a Tudor and of my birthyear vintage. What a great job..and love the new strap.Sets it off just perfectly. There's one lucky owner of a family heirloom. Kudos to him and to you for your work on that piece. I'm envious. Excellent.!!
What a beautiful watch and a beautiful restoration, Marshall. Excellent work! The family history behind the watch made the finished product that much sweeter.
Really enjoyed this video. I never thought you could have repaired it, but to see it running so smoothly at the end was wonderful. And the owners smile said it all.
Your strap selection is spectacular. Wonderful job as always Marshall! I look forward to all of your great content!
What a wonderful video! Love seeing them. I currently working on a 1928 Waltham pocket watch with a broken balance staff. I was able to safely remove it, but now I need the stakes to install a new one. I have been watching your videos for a while now and I gotta say. You are the first youtuber that really encouraged me to take the leap and buy the tools. Thank you.
Most enjoyable.. love when you give the history, it touches generations and its always with family as a remembrance.. enjoy Randy.
Wow, and wow again, superb.
Thanks, you're worth every minute and more, every time!
Another most beautiful and instructive video: thank you Marshall. The owner should be glad that Rolex turned him down, because they are in the habit of restoring watches completely (at exorbitant prices), so all the patina goes away. Your approach is much more subtle and satisfying.
Another superb rescue! And this episode was somehow even more heartwarming than usual. Well done again, Sir! Your mentioning vehicle mechanics a couple-few times makes we sort of wonder if you've also got some unique collector vehicles you like to fettle, like some 1912 Snordley or whatever. Nursing along old motorcycles is my sort of thing. I wouldn't claim I'm near as deft as you are with those watches, but it keeps me out of the county lockup.
Love the way you chuckle while fixing watches and are constantly surprised when a hack works - we know it will work but the surprise in your voice makes my day. True delight in fixing a watch comes thru. 😊
Amazing! Love your work! It was also fantastic to see the happy customer afterwards. You could see how much that watch really meant to him, which is what this hobby is all about.
Man, I love your channel. I just recently got my first automatic movement and loved seeing the things work. I found your channel when I went down the rabbit hole and have watched every single one of your videos. I love how you produce these, clear commentary and it's just a fun time to "watch" your videos. I just wish there was more to watch.
Nothing like a little JB Weld to fix a problem! Love the movement. Love the content. Keep up the good work.
I found your channel not long ago and I have to tell you that you are the Bob Ross of watch repair and maintenance. Your voice is very wonderful and relaxing to listen to. Earlier in the video you talk about the feeling you get from working on the watches "your hobby" and I have to say that it's more than the feeling of accomplishment for a job well done. There is a very wonderful sense of gratification not only in the completion, but through the process of the dis-assembly and re-assembly. Like watching Bob Ross talk about his brushes, paints and methods as he's painting; I get the same feeling of contentment with your videos so thank you. Please keep enjoying your wonderful hobby, and please continue to catalog your journey through it and share it with the rest of us!
You’re a treasure, thank you for shearing your hobby with us !
Marshall, fantastic job on the Tudor. I never miss a session you post. I learn from every one of them. Your techniques are outstanding and your narration is top shelf. I look forward to your next video.I get better working on watches and my thanks to you.
Thanks Jeff :)
Fantastic Marshall, your channel is simply the best watch repair channel out there! If you think it would fit in with your commentary, I would find it really helpful to hear where you find the various replacement parts.
Cheers!
Another amazing restoration, and great video! Thank you for sharing it.
Hi Marshall, a wonderful and careing restoration, and so nice to see the owner smiling on its return. Keep up your wonderful old watch restorations, these vids are so nice to view 👍
Marshall, saw a new video notification today, was happy to see it was from your channel. Was expecting to see a water and cotton swab cleaning of the watches dial, I guess that would have been to risky with the age and condition of the dial. Thank you for your outstanding work both the repair and video!
When working with JB Weld or other epoxies and you're putting something into it that you might want to be removable, like the crown tube, coat the threads of the part you want to be able to remove in some liquid soap or vaseline and then install it. The soap or vaseline acts as a release agent allowing what you've installed to be removable.
The threads on the crown tube might be a bit too fine for this to work though. You can always partially fill the hole, and drill or ream it to size for the tap too. JB Weld works really well with doing stuff like that, because of the metal particles.
Ace tip. I didn't realise JB Weld has metal particles.
Could he have just put the JB weld into the hole and tapped the JB weld?
@@CodyDWorks I think someone here suggested reaming out and fitting a short piece of brass tube in with superglue. It is then tapped. I think that what you suggest would also work. He is so steady to watch. I tend to get flustered with small parts nowadays. Blame my eyesight, hearing, old age, and the wife!
I was actually expecting him to tap the JB Weld
JB Weld can be tapped. My only concern would be getting it reamed straight so the stem would be perpendicular to the end of the tube. I wondered too if there wasn’t an oversized OD threaded tube that you could drill out the old threads and tap new threads
Yes!! I was wondering when another one of your videos was going to drop! Awesome job and the owners face says it all. Thank you for sharing this amazing hobby with us!
Fantastic work sir, it is always amazing to see you bring back a classic watch ⌚🙏😊👍
Really liked this one. I enjoyed seeing some of the issues that can arise that require something more in-depth than just cleaning and reassembly. And the JB Weld made me smile because even though I know nothing about watch repair, that's the first thing I thought of :)
Ha I was like could this actually work? :)
Amazing. The dial patina matched very well with the strap that you picked. You've given another 70 years of life to that watch. Next time time you place a watch on the tester could you give a overview of how it works?
Beautiful video and what a gift to the watch owner...not just the watch repair, but also the video showing the whole process!
To you use your hands for good and making people happy is a beautiful thing ...you have a gift :)
This now has become my all time favorite video of yours. Seeing the owner so happy at the end is priceless.
I have my father's manual Timex. Not a valuable piece in terms of quality, but important to me. He overwound it about 10 years before his passing, and it was in a drawer from that point forward. It's been in my small safe waiting for me to have it rebuilt so I could wear it. Perhaps it may find a way to this channel some day. 🙏🏼
Both my father and grandfather had matching watches, both with the same strap this watch video had. I'm guessing, but approx 1950 timeframe for them.
By the way, how might I get in contact if I wished to have this old dog restored to working condition (if of course you were wiling to do so)?
Hello, I repair electronics and work with some of those dastardly adhesives you mentioned earlier in the video. Something I would strongly suggest in place of an epoxy like you had is jeweler's glue or more specifically any E-7000 adhesive. In electronics repair we use it to retain some semblance of water proofing after replacing a screen or any glued part. It is an incredibly strong and water resistant clear adhesive and would probably translate well over to the world of watch repair.
Awesome how happy the owner looked, it really drove home the point of how you really helped him
Really wonderful to see the owner happy with his watch. Thumbs up!
Well, Marshall - not quite to your level of facility yet but in a similar way I was able to use my rudimentary skill as a hobby mechanic/welder to help a friend of mine. I welded a broken bracket/wheel back onto his mower deck for him. He was over the moon with the repair which made me feel pretty good too. Perhaps someday I'll jump into watch repair - your channel has at least inspired me to start wearing them again!
When I first saw the crown tube problem, my first reaction was JB Weld. But I doubted that option as not suitable. Imagine my surprise when you gave it a try. I may have a future in watch repairs! Thanks for sharing!
Same Tim, same, actually happy it worked out
Very nicely done!! To have a sentimental timepiece like this in the family is wonderful!! Great video too!
Beautiful. I especially liked the scene with the owner holding it with a big smile.
I wonder if a helicoil is available that could replace the threads in the case?
Excellent "revival"! Your description of the work is at just the right level to keep even non- watch nerds intrigued. Thanks.
I wondered that too. I don't know if they come that small or if the fit would be precise enough...
Anyone can tell that is a very happy customer. Well done Marshall. There is no price to be put on sentimental value. Rolex, a very arrogant company, should be ashamed, as this repair was nothing out of the ordinary.
I agree on the patina on the dial. My wife of almost 50 years earned every wrinkle and line in the service of her family and community! Respect!!!
I'm so glad you showed the owner with it. That made it feel so much more rewarding to me. Keep up the great work
Love your channel and am inspired to explore the hobby myself. I’ve got a late 90s Cartier tank française watch in desperate need of a service. Please let me know if you’d be interested in some sort of arrangement as I’d love to see it get serviced through your channel.
Nice fix. I work with threads and more to the point, broken threads a lot. at that scale, you came up with a great fix. Helicoil could have been a solution for you as well and maybe more permanent. However, not knowing the diameters, pitches, etc, I cannot say they make them that small. But they go way down there in size.
I have learned SO MUCH from watching and listening to you, THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Cool watch, great history, amazing patina, fantastic fix, and that strap was just the *chef's kiss* to top it off. Thank you for sharing!
Holy crap I've never been this early to a video, 2 minutes after uploading so I am the 69th viewer so VERY NICE
Speaking of very nice, great work on the watch after a big corp didn't want to touch it
Great work Bob Ross of the watch world
Thanks for the lol smile buddy!
There is a variation on the JB Weld crown repair that you did. You could have filled the hole (or around the inside) of the hole in the case with JB Weld and let than set up. Then drilled it and tapped it, and screwed the crown ring back into the JB Weld. In my experience it sets up hard enough to be able to do that in many cases. I don't know that it would have been any better than how you did it.
Yeah, the big bonus here is that this is reversible. Good if you need to do any work on the case in the future. (Funny that in the intro he makes a point about there not being adhesives and tape)
This watch turned out so beautifully! You solved each problem carefully and patiently as they cropped up and got it running well. Impressive.
WOW! Sir Your patience is Just Amazing. What Beautiful! Work You Do In Keeping History Alive. Fantastic Job! Cheers.
Hey Marshall, love all your work. Would you ever consider doing some Q&A episodes, and covering things that would be interesting for us to know, but that may not fit into a normal episode. For example, looking at a lot of the watches you work on, there seems to be a surprising amount of damage (scratches) on parts of the watch that wouldn't be exposed to the elements normally, and I'm curious as to how and why so much damage is occurring in there? I get that dirt might get in, but it seems like a lot of damage for just a bit of dirt, especially when some of the damaged parts aren't even moving parts or against moving parts! Thanks again.
Yes I'm working on doing Q&A live streams for patrons of the channel :)
Thank you for making these videos!! How well did the JB weld stay in place when unscrewing the old crown tube? Did it keep the threads well or did you need to chase it again with the tap? Seems like a genius idea!
I know if I JB welded it, there would be epoxy everywhere!
I don't understand why he didn't get a new tube.
@@nenek75he would have had to get a new case- that was what was broken
Beautiful restoration! Thank you for sharing
Absolutely amazing work. Thanks for sharing the reaction of the customer.