Architects React to Night City in Cyberpunk 2077
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- Опубліковано 20 гру 2022
- We're bringing architects Benjamin Ball and Alexis Readinger back, this time to react to the incredible Cyberpunk 2077's "Night City." The duo are here to let us know what might ACTUALLY be possible in the year 2070, and to talk about the problems civilization will be facing in the future. Check out this video to find out which Cyberpunk styles we might actually see in the coming decades, and enjoy!
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Cyberpunk 2077 is an action role-playing video game developed by CD Projekt Red and published
by CD Projekt. The story takes place in Night City, an open world set in the Cyberpunk universe.
Players assume the first-person perspective of a customizable mercenary known as V, who can acquire skills in hacking and machinery with options for melee and ranged combat.
The story follows V's struggle as he deals with a mysterious cybernetic implant that threatens to overwrite his body with the personality and memories of a deceased celebrity only perceived by V; the two must work together if there is any hope to separate the two and save V's life.
The open world metropolis of Night City consists of six regions; the corporate City Center, immigrant-inhabited Watson, luxurious Westbrook, suburban Heywood, gang-infested Pacifica, and industrial Santo Domingo. Its surrounding area, the Badlands, can also be explored. V navigates these locations on foot and in vehicles, which are subject to either a third- or first-person view. Pedestrians are vulnerable to vehicular collisions. Depending on the location, law enforcement may be alerted if V commits a crime.
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Architects REACT to Night City in Cyberpunk 2077 - Ігри
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They actually got the feeling of Night City feeling like a trap with no relief and break from commercialism. It's one of the core aspects of Cyberpunk's lore. The city is meant to feel so claustrophobic.
fr like if you can't beat the city, the city will eat you whole
as well as nothing being sacred, and having no place for spirituality. thats what drives the nomads into their harsh life in the wasteland.
I saw an idiotic review criticizing the game's story because they felt Arasaka was a bad villain
Wrong. Arasaka isn't the villain. Night City is.
It's why the Nomad Ending is the best. V is free. Live or die. V is free
Cyberpunk Night City is just the baby beginnings of a Warhammer40k hive City, hope you like corpse starch!
@@XSilver_WaterX yummy!
You should have an engineer and an architect react together so they can just argue with eachother the whole time
Some people just want to watch the world burn
😂
Kabuki is actually more Little Tokyo than Chinatown. It's almost all Japanese. Even the name is a giveaway since Kabuki is a Japanese form of theater performance.
"The area was quickly repopulated with Chinese diaspora before turning into the shadiest bazaar imaginable. During the daytime Kabuki has narrow, tangled alleyways full of chop suey joints, seedy cosmetic boutiques, and cheap junk shops, all decorated with Chinese lampions and flickering neon lights"
Kabuki is not all Japanese. I thought the same thing.
you can also hear Mandarin or Cantonese commercials within Kabuki, you wouldnt be hearing chinese lanuages in a japanese dominate district. I think its a mix of both.
Kabuki is somewhat like a Chinatown in a Japanese city. Night City is literally an Asian city smacked into a US city. It's still accurate that they immediately recognized the aesthetics.
True. Kabuki is generally Asia town. Mostly Chinese and Japanese live there. The gang that runs it are the Tiger Claws who are mostly Japanese.
@@KevLex_RCF i never said it was purely Japanese. I said it was almost all Japanese as Japanese companies and people built it and settled there. A Japanese gang runs it. Your contact there is Japanese. And the biggest Japanese company in the world(Arasaka) has a parade that goes right through that part of town. Yeah, it has other Asian influence like Chinese, but it's a Japanese part of town that incorporated other culture into it, but it's still primarily Japanese.
You should do this again and show the other areas as Cyberpunk 2077 also has different cultures and clashing styles such as Neo Kitsch vs Neo militarism, Corporate living areas vs the Badlands. All effected by the events of history with their own unique designs and environments
Could also show the player houses and their design.
Majorly seconded. I've been wanting to see the architects reaction to Night City for a while.
I love you, I wanna marry you and then throw you into a bin. And kiss you good night. hahahaha
“Architects discuss everything besides architecture” fixed the title
They actually were lol, Architecture and Social Studies are not that divorced
@@reaverfang377they are rarely reacting to actual architecture, not blaming the video, but the questions were answered more openly rather than related to game.
@@creekcrawler. This does nothing to prove my statement about Achitecture and Social studies being very related fields.
@@reaverfang377 Taking your comment according to context of OP's comment, I meant that they should've answered according and related to the actual game rather than going astray and more open imo
@@reaverfang377yeah, everything is related to social studies bud. Doesn’t say anything about the original posters issue
Little bit disappointed that not a single home unit was shown. Like the exterior facade of a building, the circulation and programming of the building are things architects specialize in. Driving around the streets won't give them much to work with, they aren't city planners. I hope they would show them better examples in cyberpunk. If you guys do Star Citizen please see if Morphologist from youtube can work with you, he is an architect that knows the game well.
I'm really glad the architects picked up on the conflicting emotions the architecture of Night City invokes. It's simultaneously alluring and repulsive, with several narrative moments that pull your perspective in either direction.
One of the best designed open-world cities in gaming period.
Love how they're talking about no secret space while footage of the birdhouse is shown over and over again haha (6:45 left in the image)
There’s also quite some spiritual/garden areas in the city but still.. great video
That's my favorite part of the city and they didn't even walk inside it lol
@@apIthletIcc fr haha
@@apIthletIcc yeah one of my favourite places too, but i guess when the reactor mentioning about no sacred place, the footage is pre recorded, and as such cant show them tranquility inside of the glass Birdhouse.
@@yunaraginda yeah i waa under the impression at first that she was the one playing the game, cuz she seemed to know alot about the setting of the game and seemed to have played it before. lol
This game is so incredible that people in general need to give it a second chance, on the PS5 it's the tits.
Well on Xbox Series X its the vagina.
Cyberpunk is defunct. It doesn't exist anymore.
I’m a bit annoyed that I played it all whilst it was buggy, would have liked to play it in its better state but I remember most the story points so don’t really want to replay
@@kennypowerz1267 but it still does?
It's not. It plays like a game from 2010.
A big factor in Cyberpunk 2077 lore is that there was a post-war period where almost a million people died and more were displaced within the city and rejected help from the New United States of America. A lot of Night City in 2077 was built up around or on top of what was built up by the 2020's. Night City shouldn't be sustainable, but there is this cycle of destruction and reconstruction that occurs every 10 or 20 years while the coast line changes and they've got the American government to the direct South and independent Pacifica Confederation to the North. Night City is really two or three attempts at a city built on top of each other.
The lore that Cyberpunk 2077 has really helps set the groundwork for understanding with this game. It is very stylistic and cinematic.
"is it sustainable?"
laugh in cyberpunk
It literally is, you don’t know the lore
night city is a character all on its own. i love this game so much. great video!
The explanation of more people, less space...man, that future's gonna suck
Got a solution that doesn't dip into fascism?
Nah, nothing worth sharing in a video about architecture nor is this channel the appropriate place. Though you can check your local library, find any book about human history and connect those dots if you really wanna know.
yeah it sucks and when u play cyberpunk is kinda hard to see the difference between the corpos in the game and the "corpos" irl , because with the pass of the time u feel like the companies become this gigant monster u cant fight and will step on u no matter what
@@SantiagoJimenez-hh3is Well there is no significant difference between Cyberpunks world and our current one.
Cyberpunk is a stylized, over the top version of our world, but if you take a closer look at f. ex. Tokyo or LA you can see the clear parallels between Night City and today.
Rampant commercialism is everywhere even today, ads get more intrusive each day, tracking everything you do to sell for money is "normal" now. We just won't get the pretty neon lights and cool as shit cyberware. We ony get the bad things from Cyberpunk.
We are fucked lol.
Night City is a product of rampant capitalism. The regulations for buildings were slowly removed by the corporations so that each cubic meter of space can be used. Space is worth more than your average citizens life.
Companies made it their goal to use everything available, so the infrastructure became more and more layered, taller and they are crammed each building closer and closer. Especially the parts of town that used to be the middle class like the Megablock (?) buildigs like the one Vs first apartment is situated in.
The design of the city is a product of the games lore, the design languages used are well documented and plausibel. This video just doesn't do the design justice.
@@firestorm165dont let companies run wild and put you into the equivalent of a slave colony
Seattle's Chinatown is hard against *two* interstates, I-5 and I-90. Given that Mike Pondsmith, the designer of Cyberpunk, lives in Seattle, I'd wager that's why Night City's Chinatown is where it is.
I dunno why but I love hearing architects talk about night city. Because while parts of it do feel gamey, there’s many times I’m walking around and it feels like the big cities I’ve been in, and hearing the actual trends in the legal and urban design that sometimes confirm something like nc is more plausible than not is 😅 (and of course we must remember nc is the extreme case, most other places aren’t so…chaotic/corpo)
You should do this with different people
Yeah they're way too California for my taste. I don't want to hear about going to Burning Man and spiritual babble from architects. If they're so connected with mother earth maaaaaan then why is California such a shithole?
Ok. The gameplay footage hardly did any service for the subject matter and made it difficult to get architectural prospectives on the actual game design so we instead got speculations on the future for 10 minutes. A few tips for the next game you guys cover from this prospective...
1. Just like irl, cities are better experienced on foot. Really dropped the ball with this because Night City is practically 3 or 4 cities intricately stacked on top of one another. Not to mention all of the buildings that can be explored from the inside. That matters too.
2. Holograms are cool but the districts are better. There aren't any hologram fish or trees in Santo Domingo for instance. It would have been nice to hear some insight on what influenced the design choices for the districts. I would expect arcitects to know structure styles and some history of them.
3. Find prospectives that overlook the city. There are several great views of the NC skyline that also would've been interesting to hear arcitects observe and could've further illustrate the looming feeling of dread that kinda follows you throughout the city. NC is easily one of the best designs of cityscape that has ever come to gaming. It's too bad they didn't get to really see much of it.
Really, instead of just some random footage there should be a third person with a modded game where they can use free camera to fly around and take their time. There's no room to look at anything with any sort of detail, and it's all just a mishmash of areas without rhyme or reason.
Im in Spain and i live in a city of 80k people and we have ads running down the sides of buildings, some are the size of the entire wall of the building. They typically hide damage and imperfections on aging buildings i think thats why they approve of that. Ive also been seeing more stores have their store signs on the sidewalk floor, like an image projection of their store sign. I think in the future cities will use more of that i think.
I'm also in Spain, what place are you talking about?
@@drinkwwwaterrr if you are in Spain and havent seen it then you might be in a small pueblo.
The effects and designs look awesome
No other game set in a city makes me feel so immersed in it than CP77
They should look at the megabuildings in the game
Made no sense whatsoever to not go into the megabuildings or the other high rise opulent condos/ penthouse suites.
Such a fantastic game.... amazing world to explore !
Some things about Night City to bear in mind. Yes, it's set in California, but it's set in a timeline where the USA broke apart sometime around 2020-ish, and Night City is independent from the NUSA (New USA) and from California (which, itself, is not always considered part of the USA)...
Their fuel is something called CHOOH2 (carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, oxygen, dihydrogen). Night City's primary foods are soy, corn, and SCOP (Single Cell Organic Protein... like nutritive yeast, but it is used as a meat substitute, and can be formed into patties, or other imitation meat foods). Most other foods available to the masses are synthetically produced using the above three, or they're highly illegal and probably laced with salmonella or some mutated rot virus that'll eat your brain alive.
There's no natural life in Night City. Cows and other agricultural animals began dying from infectious diseases 20+ years before Cyberpunk 2077. Dogs, birds, and cats have also largely died off. Night City is in the California desert near the coast of the Pacific. There *are* a few cats left in the city, but most of the non-human animals you'll find are bugs.
Night City's primary power supply comes from solar arrays south of the city, and a hydro-electric dam to the southeast. The dam is mostly just a reservoir of extremely toxic water, and serves no potable use to the city, if I remember correctly.
The city has a large swathe of wasteland around it, and a border wall at the edges of this. Areas where the wall isn't so well defended are few and far between, but the old smuggler routes do exist.
The only people in night city who eat fresh veggies and healthy meat are the ultra-rich. Corpo-rats and gang lords who can afford to bribe officials or who run smuggler outfits.
The city itself is run by a "democratically elected" mayor and city council, but everyone knows the city is run by Arasaka, with Militech, Biotechnica, and a few other major corps jockeying for power.
Militech, by the way, is the NUSA's military. A private corporation security service that was nationalized around the late 2000s or early 2010s, I think? Every NUSA president has been a CEO of Militech since the 1990s, and they're that much more of a fascist government for it.
Arasaka is based off a real world corporation that went out of business in the 1940s after WWII. Arasaka in the real world is known for their rifles with chrysanthemum stamps on the receiver. The Cyberpunk version of this corp is run by Saburo Arasaka, who was born in the late 1800s and you get to see him still alive at the start of the game. In 2077. Dude's been using tech to prolong his life, and he's referred to as The Emperor, suggesting he's got a lot of importance back in Japan too.
Arasaka's Night City HQ got nuked by Militech in 2023.
So a lot of 2077 Night City is also separated by pre-nuke architecture and post-nuke architecture, with many areas of the map either fortified bastions for Arasaka, or dilapidated ruins occupied by technobarbarian gangs. (It's you, Maelstrom. I'm talking about you.)
I realize this was a lot of points to read, and kind of a WORD WALL... so if you made it this far, I now grant you the knowledge of the word YOL, and the spirit of a Dovah to guide your understanding.... Sky guide you.
The fun part about geolocating Night City in real-life California is that there's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it GPS coordinate of Sandra Dorsett's location when you pull the neurovirus shard. 36.8415, -121.7974. If you input that into Google Earth, you'll get a rural farmland location to the southwest of Watsonville, CA. Sound familiar? 🙂
@@pyrioncelendil not surprising. As cities grow, they typically end up absorbing adjacent towns and using the town name to name the district
@@ravenauslander3726 I know. I just found it interesting that Night City corresponds to an actual location in California as opposed to just being completely made up.
Technically Las vegas has the closest construction to night city. Many bridges and road bridges are zigzagged to connect to specific street. There are many private road access to the back of hotels for shopping & receiving and employees. Everything built and compact yet safe. Some walkways are built on rooftops to get to trams. Its like all the space usage is very optimized and yet has plenty of room for what they have built.
Yesss! This was the video I suggested! Ask and Gamology delivers!!! 🙏💯
What no one knows is, Yorinobu Arasaka invented the first augment in the 80's, also night city was futuristic enough by the 2010's because of arasaka
Hmm this was kind of a mid take, didn't really talk much about night city and just kept comparing to current world LA.
Considering all the different area and architectural styles within the game the video feels way to short with not much touched on but I guess that falls under "Can't please everyone".
Gonna have to look an see if they ever covered The Witcher 3. If they haven't, they should.
They did actually add little "sacred" isolated glass boxes of piece, like the ones you can see at the left edge of the screen around 6:42 in between the trees.
The juxtaposition of their pitifully small existence exclusively on one street corner in one of the nicer neighbourhoods of the city really helps to drive home how terrible the rest of the city is to live in.
Awesome! Always wanted to know what architects think of the city. It's really detailed, the most detailed I've seen in a game.
You can’t escape Night City, choom
I can😉
@@aivarasp1080 Johnny says hi
Seriously? escaping Night City is easy, staying there and surviving is a worse sentence.
shout out to the nomads
Whenever I drive or walk around Night City I get the feeling the city is a future Coruscant, in the way things are built over other things with no care for lighting or spacing. You can drive entire blocks without getting sunlight and it doesn't look like there was zoning or planning involved (except for the city center). It looks and feels claustrophobic and visual pollution (and noise pollution too) is overwhelming with the amount of advertisement all around.
Where is the Engineer? The build will not last long without them
He really said there’s nothing Sacred shown here. Wait till he meets the monks in game.😂😂😂😂😂
What's really sad is that they see this representation of a city in the future as quite possible.
We now have drones creating advertisements in the night sky. This future is getting closer and closer
I mean ye Night City for me feels like very believable future You just need to crank up and bulid up a little bit more to Time Square and bam you have Night City
Night city is like our phones a one sided sword face toward us from above while we going down stairs
If you want a deep dive I can only recommend Morphologis’ review of NC’s architecture. He also did a review on the rooms.
One of the coolest parts about this which is a bit unrelated, I get to learn about another state I’ve never been to, since I’m from Massachusetts and Cali is on the other side of the country, I get to learn a bit about it from the experts
Been working in construction for 7 years and anyone with experience knows that majority of architects are really creative but really stupid
And all attractive apparently. Even for her age, she's such a tease!
"More people", someone doesn't know anything about the Cyberpunk universe.
There's also these huge flying chainblocks of synthetic farms and labs outside the city, south direction, too
There is actually a part in the city center, so it is not without green space, it is however quite closed in.
I want a real life size replica of Night City with people living it in. I know I would
Great video
I love how at 2:09 he says he would want to see you get off the bike and go into the buildings or climb them while you actually can lol
It's a bit of a mess. These two are really on it and spot on. Good video 👍🏼
FINALLY! but a ted underwhelming.... expected much more. Hope will get more of it
the more i listen to them, the more i realize they have saw dust for brains
She said "we keep running all the lights" 🤣🤣🤣
Is that the normal quality for airpods?
Love the vid
You got them to react to NIGHT City, in the day, ONLY?
did they not show them our starter apartment? or did I miss it?
There are massive wind farms in the badlands to the east of the city.
Fuel in Night City is called CHOOH2 which is a bio ethanol derivative
"I'd like to see them get off the bike and enter some of those buildings" -- Yeah, so would all the players...
I'm really glad the architects were given footage of the Night City at NIGHT so they could see the city how it was meant to be experienced...oh no wait, they weren't. Just the player riding around the same streets
_"Habitrail®"_ Now that's a name I've not heard for a long, long time.
Are those things even still around? Do people even keep hamsters as pets anymore?
Fun fact, the cars in cyberpunk aren't powered my gasoline but a type of Helium 3.
funny how in the web most places has adds, even. wont be surprised how it will dictate media in the future
Cyberpunk 2077 takes place in an alternative timeline isn’t supposed to be “our future”, the divergence point here is in the late 1990s.
The game is heavily retro-futurist, how they imagined the future in the 80s & 90s plus some more modern features.
I missed the part where they talked about the game?
Please somebody tell me where she got that thumbnail picture
I get Bladerunner x Neil Blomkamp vibes from this game
5:06 / :5:07 "its pretty cocaine" XDXD
I wonder how familiar these two are with Cyberpunk's alternate history. Though they may be right about cities looking similar in the real 2070's.
Needs one video of them reacting to Deus Ex Human Revolution & Mankind Divided.
It's too bad they didn't get a chance to see inside the mega buildings. I'd have like to hear about that.
Lol well, California better have a plan by 2050 because there isn't anything better to switch to. I doubt solar will be enough to sustain the state.
These folks would love watching me play this game. I role play walk everywhere and climb essentially everything in sight
Night City is designed like what i imagine vegas will be in 30 years. I think its realistic that cyberpunk took the cyberpunk genre, and made it an advertising, indulging, drugged out garbage city trying its best to remember the past and also embrace the future that corporations are pushing (and most buy into the advertising, just like reality.)
I loved this game
Very cool
There is 2 or more "church" in cp77
F Architects, we all know they're Engineers little weird brother. This video should be Engineer reacts.
5:23 this conversation actually captured one of my issues with the game.
That topic on top of the already depressing nose dive of a story made it really exhausting at times.
Which is strange as I generally really like darker stories and dystopia.
How dare does the game accomplish perfectly the vision of the city and sub-genre it's in
@@clydu91 you wanna try writing that and liking your own comment again bud?
Jokes aside I think I get what you’re trying to say.
Yes, I fully understood what its themes is based around.
Thats why I ended my comment referencing my enjoyment toward dark imagery yet still being exhausted by this in particular. I was raising the topic and conversation of why it was strange for me.
@@JayTraversJT wow he has 12 different accounts? Seems hard to keep up with lol
I just go out in the badlands before the border and view the sunsets from there, or ontop of the dam. There's also a small park that has a pond in the city I like to visit sometimes too.
And the story is freaking sweet. I wouldn't call it depressing. But to each their own opinion.
@@neowolf09
It's not so much the other likes that had me lol. It was the first in the space of less than a minute. That and I'm not expecting that much traffic on what is some random dudes non important opinion on the internet. I remain suspicious but who knows maybe it is just coincidence.
Anyways, yeah you're absolutely right, the arid plains of the desert badlands do offer some reprieve, as much as an arid plains and desert can. Though I feel like the area lacked much purpose once it's use expired, ya know? But hey, an escape is an escape I guess!
Perhaps they could've separated two cities apart? Have the old district serving as the gang controlled "Hot Zone" from the original tabletop game and then the new corporate ran district separate. This would serve the badlands some purpose at least. Hell, this might have even allowed for another larger scale dominance arc like the war in W3. Idk might be a dumb idea. The current badlands was just too far out the way with too little use for me.
Like I was saying in my comment tho, its weird. If I was flying around in a perpetually foggy and rainy neon environment of Bladerunner or the cramped hive cities of Warhammer and I'd be entertained for some reason despite being considerably more volatile. Hard for me to put into words tbh. I love dystopia allot (much darker dystopia in fact) but its something about night city I cant put my finger on.
Also, It's not fair for me to compare as Witcher (particularly 3) was essentially a golden age and catching lightning in a bottle like that repeatedly is unrealistic of me. That said, Its almost like our own real 13th century dark ages with its plagues, famine, religious depute, persecution and war but worse in near every way with the extra dashing of blasphemous magic and monsters. It's objectively worse in every way.
And yet - I love it in every way!
It was just so diverse, alive and realized despite how abhorrent it all was.
And yeah story is entirely subjective. Doesn't help that I chose the corpo ending neither which is easily one of the worst lmao. What can I say, I think I just loved Takemura more than V haha. Besides V's downfall in health I think It was also in part due to Johnny, I just really didn't connect with the dude. Maybe if he had an inch of remorse it'd be different. Besides being a pretty big arsehole to most, dude was pure nihilism incarnate. Having a character I actively disliked glued to my brain that wished for nothing but more death didn't help me. Regardless, I understand most players were actively team johnny so I'm pretty sure this is just me.
Sorry for the text wall lol.
Never really discussed my mind on it before. Feels good to get it out even if no one reads it.
Cyberpunk : High Tech Squalor.
I keep thinking "it's Japantown not Chinatown"
That is mass up
I wish they would redo this video with a new architect and include the legend himself Mike Pondsmith. Have Mike talk about what he imagined and the expert tell give real world examples or say what would likely happen given the circumstances. Show Arasaka tower, have Mike give a 30 sec run down of who Arasaka is, 30 secs him telling what he imagined, and then a minute to the expert to say why the tower fits or is lacking and also talk about Mikes image. It’d be so much more enjoyable than two people who are assuming this is a mirror of our world and not a world of its own. I love the cyberpunk world and have a Red game in the works and want some details and descriptions of what night city should be in the mind of the creator and what it realistically might look like. Be even more fun if the expert makes some renders of what they would have gone with.
In night city they use CHOOH2 for energy
They should Commenting all the Apartement
I expect some architectural reaction but i have enlightened by dystopian claustrophobic horror for the near future in the perspective of experts
I'm an architect and I love this cyberpunk world
Missing the proper raytracing here. Do you not have the money to get a proper rig for a showcase?
Do Star Citizen next.... With them and its spaceships
the bro said we gonna have more people, hell nah, the fkin birthrate in your country has been decreasing every year.
There only one Architect I trust, Ted Mosby
Dont let rhem see dog town thell probably have an aneurysm
That guy looks like Rodney Mullen
she was just talking about LA and California for the first third of the video lol
These 2 are very educated speak very well. Good takes too
It’s been a while since I’ve commented on here
They need to react to TES:oblivion town and cities fr
* woman architect says Chinatowns aren't built near freeways, mentions her studio is in LA's Chinatown... through which the 110 freeway runs into downtown *
* confusion *
Runnaway "corporatism" not "capatalism "
Who’s the streamer
Den of iniquity, not inequity 😉
Looks like Tokyo