This is for the Barrage fans! Super strong build (relative to Rogue ofc). As usual, continue to use and check the planner as updates will be made as more things get discovered. I also decided to keep shadow step in the written guide as people tend to not like playing without an unstoppable. Also, for inspiration, here's a 6.4B victimize crit: www.twitch.tv/dieoxide/clip/KawaiiFairSardineTwitchRPG-A7yPtMtsy7UyPDo0 Happy pew pewing!
Thank you for posting rogue builds man, i only see new spirit born builds and the S.B is cool but rogue is my favorite so ive been trying to find good builds this season.
Another great build played your Infinite Barrage build last season had a lot of fun it being my first season I put a lot of time into I played the story at launch and quit not long after and only caught the last 2 weeks of season 4 so last season was really my first endgame run and your build was awesome can’t wait to play this one too thanks again.
I'm using your heart seeker build instead I feel like heartseeker or barrage power is so similar that it's just a playstyle preference. I like barrage but I just wish they would make a straight up multishot from D3 or cluster arrows or sentries marauder build was OP but my god it was fun.
Hi! Thank you for the build guide, looks very fun (similar to last season andariels) to play this build! Are you able to do an updated video based on all the changes made recently to the maxroll guide? I've seen another video similar to this that doesn't use poison imbument and was very capable of clearing T90+ pits. I think this might be able to go to Pit 100 with the right setup.
@Blyfee This has already done a t100. Poison is indeed a little stronger and for big pushes, cowl is a little stronger than hier of perdition, but feels awful for speedfarming pits (only works well on bosses with minions) Only change i made on maxroll is shroud, because it wasn't available in the game when i made this video.
your heartseeker or barrage better? built ur heartseeker but barrage seems better and equipement seems nearly the same that's why i ask. also got starless skies tyrael and heir
I'm running very similar setup, but with slightly different board pathing. Very tanky, good damage, fairly easy to play. Only issue I have with Victimize Barrage: wild damage swings between deleting something like an Aether Fiend on T4 the moment it spawns or slap for 20+ billion in party setup against Tormented bosses, but then I'm spending x2-3 casts of barrage to clean up singular normal basic enemy... I wonder if there's a way to bring up the baseline damage somehow with, maybe, crit damage (because between "Fist of Fate", "Heir of Perdition" and "Shroud of False Death" - you're already sitting at ~50% crit chance, 100% if "Trick Attacks" is revved up) or... Something else?
Tested shroud of false along with a good roll windforce, I just couldnt find a crossbow with GA on Vuln. Damage seem much more consistent and it melts all normal content. Currently up to pit 92 with quite a bit of room to grow. I dont think it will go higher than maybe 100 or 105, but will see. Busy playing with increasing barrage skill points vs malice to get further consistent damage. Victimize I dont understand, the numbers on the skill change without me doing anything, not sure if you know why it changes dramatically. Considering changing my amulet passives which are currently malice and frigid and dropping one of them for more exploit points
@olaoberg4165 heartseeker. However, both barrage and heartseeker share the exact same paragon boards and most of the same gear, so it's easy to make the switch if you feel like. I do this myself when i just want to play the other build.
i was lookin on yt for a viable build that doesent need crazy items to work,is this one of them? or u just need to have everything perfect and every single item to work? i'm not the type of player that can spend a lot of time grinding for items,so i was wondering if one of those infinite amount of builds videos there's something actually playable without grinding every freakin day T_T (hope its understandable,my english is kinda bad xD)
@@GrownManPat Same only im doing the barrage andys rogue and its is still very strong, havent even got it geared like it needs and just cleared a 50 pit not to bad!
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Thanks for the great video and amazing build. I have a blast playing it. One question: Why are you not using "Lucky Hit: Up to X% Chance to Make Your Target Vulnerable for X Seconds"? I am just wondering what I miss. Thaks a lot and keep up the great work!
im still blowin thru t2 with dok, but i feel it slowin, to be fair i havent started temperin yet so we shall see. i ran barrage and heartseeker last season with heartseeker in 4 and LOVED it.
@@aivathedog7529 As much as I would love it to get a buff and just "do more damage", I think the real buff would be quality of life stuff. The real killer of this build is having to constantly move long distances and ironically, opening doors ruin everything. Don't get me started on chugging potions that is integral to scaling your damage lol
Idk man. I'm blowing through T2 with ease. Only 3 Ancestrals and and those are only masterworked to lvl 4. And I'm only at paragon 130. The paragon definitely matters more on DoK than the others. I'd recommend running poison imbument with high crit, and snapshot conceilment for guaranteed crits.
Hi DiEoxidE! Thanks for making this build, I'm just starting a new Rogue character. What is the skill that you make the barrage looks like the "Artillery" strike, with multiple arrows hitting targets? Thank you. Edited: Ah i just realised that was from Tyrael's Might armor. For this build, do you recommend Tyrael's Might or Shroud of False Death? Thanks!
@@DiEoxidEthanks man for the quick reply! Any chance you could make another video with the False Death chest and the gear set up? That would be really appreciated =)!!!
Good morning Makinon, I have seen the build, and what I see is that there is a possibility that you can build a build adding blade dance with barrage for example, that is to say make a mixed build. Greetings
If I don't have the DLC and I plan to buy it later, what runes would work for the helmet and chest? since I don't have access to the legendary runes ty for the Build :D
Thoughts on alchemical admixture? The new key passive seems not that great. Really only useful for increasing poison damage? Was hoping to combine it with word of Hakan for an ulti elemental build, but feel like precision will be better, which would be a shame.
Just transitioned to this at 60 (50). Great build but I really struggle with Energy. Couldn’t kill Tormented Varshan on Torment 1 as I kept running out of Energy.
I'm enjoying the build, an am about 200 paragon. I cannot figure out how your build is different than mine, but you're regularly hitting for 1+ billion. Is there some super critical thing to take the build over the edge that I'm missing?
Its probably the mythics. The Umbracrux getting hit by Tyrael's Might arrows adds up really fast. If you are barraging towards mobs instead of your Totem you're missing out on a lot of damage also. I made that mistake when I first built Victimize too.
@@Gweivyth do you think those things are what is having him hit for 1bil? I can see how those can do increased damage, but i'm literally only hitting for max about 35-40mil an explosion. i have over 1000% extra vuln damage. 3 star FoF and TONS of lucky hit. Just can't figure it out.
did u figure it out? i'm hitting for few millions most of the time like 200 to 500 mill so i wonder how to hit billoins too lmao. played yesterday some duriel runs in a group and i've seen pretty often numbers like 26b i even made a screenshot but while playing solo i can't really seem to get over a million so i'm not sure if i hit for that much or somebody else and it was bugged. my gear is pretty much like urs nearly bis
@@nicotach5179 i think it has to do with glyph levels. i was checking it out, and since slowly starting to crank out and upgrade their levels, my damage is starting to increase exponentially. i'm still not 100% yet, but working on it.
im having hard time to transition to torment 3 with this build. I have the ancestral version but didnt switched to death trap yet. For that you want me to give up two passives that gives me alot of defense. Also I cant let go of inner sight. without it my resource is running low all the time
I hope the snapshot stuff with Dance of Knives get fixed because most people will use that broken build. I used it but it got boring fast, for me fun is experimenting and having success with whatever you come up with. I don't need to clear Pit 100 and have full ancestral gear at day 1, defeats the entire purpose. On top I was always a barrage enjoyer :) . I tried with precision at first but seems Victimize is way better.
i try to run that build follow MaxRoll Ancestral and i m struggling in t3. i have no DLC so no ruins and damage are random and average and survival bad. I m parangon 180 was hoping it would run smoother any idea ? is that something only viable with DLC runes and merc?
hi man i was just wanted to say i switch to this build maybe yesterday and i dont even have all my glyphs sloted beacuse havent dropped yet, i had a 63B crit hit in a Pit run so i cant wait to see how far it can go with max out gear! really thanks for this detailed video ! keep it cominnn
@@DiEoxidE This can be done with the temper on the one handed weapon. I suspect the important thing is having a higher lucky hit chance than vanilla barrage.
@Smhallways This is only true on alchemical advantage. Alchemist forture requires the skill to be non physical. Also, temper does not proc eldritch bounty legendary node.
@@DiEoxidE Yes on the Fortune, but why would we want the Eldritch Bounty node in the first place, when Deadly Ambush does more, 23% vs 20%. And you get faster trap deployement. I would take the poison imbuement for the fortune and poison lucky hit, but would switch the paragon to Ambush. Just my thoughts anyway.
@Smhallways You can do this, but it means you're more reliant on casting caltrops and containing all the mobs in a small AoE, which people hate in general. Caltrops is a nice buff that's optional to use, mainly in elite fights/bosses. Deadly Ambush essentially makes you play around it and less "optional" Eldritch bounty just flows because you don't have to think about it and it's unconditional (not to mention that board has easier access to all resistances, making it easier to cap). Keep in mind im aware you can play this physical and there are setups out there like that. The end result is similar. Would you rather play around an imbuement or around a trap for the damage motifier that separates the two ideally. This is basically what it comes down to.
@patico-ib9nz shroud of false death was disabled until 3 days ago. Can't promote or wear a chest that couldn't drop or be crafted at the time with no timeline on when it would be fixed and available to the public. With that said, tyraels is still good, just shroud is better.
@korbinmenosky5127 planner, but its practically the same. Left shadow step in the guide because people don't like playing without an unstoppable. That's it.
@@DiEoxidEThanks for the response I guess I was more meaning the gear tbh the gear you have in the video and the gems and rune words used don’t match with the planner so I think that is what was confusing me.
@@korbinmenosky5127this got me last season but I believe it’s because he plays other builds that use similar gear so he uses what he has for an example in the video but the planner shows exactly whats best I could be wrong tho just guessing.
Sadly the written guide link on the description is not updated with what you have shown on the video. I'm skeptical about the paragons so would that possible for you to update that one as well? Awesome guide and build btw, looking forward to max this out!
@emreokuyucu9822 about 95% of whats in the video is still in the written guide. I also mentioned in the video that the paragon board was not optimized and to check the planner for the optimized board and stated why. I also made mentioned of keeping shadow step instead of dash in the written guide due to most not liking running without an unstoppable. This was mentioned in my pinned comments. That about covers it. All very minor.
I know this has probably been asked to death, but I can't find an answer.. Why isn't anderial barrage still a thing? The only answer I found was the nova doesn't crit any more?
Chest piece was disabled (wasn't dropping in the game) during the creation of this video, so Tyraels might was a placeholder and easy way to cap resistances.
Sorry, he probably won't respond since this is old. I noticed we're using Frigid Finesse, but how are we chilling enemies to take advantage of that skill?
well i suppose you got no time to answer, just was wondering , in case you see this, about your new rogue barrage with shroud, will you put a correct skill rotation up?
@XimoXThe i receive 100s of comments throughout various platforms a day. It's quite possible i may have not seen your previous message. Have you had the chance to check the planner and the written maxroll guide? Everything is updated with shroud already as of yesterday.
@@DiEoxidE yes yes, of course , i understand you cant answer to everybody! dont worry! I was wondering whats the first attack you do while stealthed to get the shroud bonus. Couldnt find it in the skill roptation thats why i ask. I just cant get this build to run like yours :) not even close, and i have my glyphs all 70 and a lot of vul dmg and lucky hit
@XimoXThe the stealth damage is not important as it's additive. Biggest thing is smoke grenade and caltrops on elites. Smoke grenade is most important due to the totem spawn from umbracrux. Huge damage scaling when it's out.
@XimoXThe barrage doesn't deal any damage in the setup. It all comes from victimize, so the barrage ranks and the knockback damage doesn't apply to victimize.
My barrage is fully maxed i cant do anything past pit 90. Where as a dok build is at pit 99 lool. Like where am i going wrong its 3 GA minimum on all my gear i followed sanctums guide on the victimse barrage.
@ienjoyedit9444 are you fishing for the right map/mob type/boss? Basically in the 90s, this is required, Barrage is capable of 100. Also, not sure why you would ask me about someone elses version of the Barrage build you're following. You should go to the source.
@@DiEoxidE yeah i followed your build at first i couldnt get it past 85s then decided to go with 2 leg rings and change up the paragon a little to get to 90. other than that i feel like its the victimise dmg letting it down.
just do the balance changes early this seasn blizzard- tune down the monk and biff the others... nice work though! €: honetly its jut the staff that makes it broken though
I run barrage...i have better stats....all glyphs upgraded...all masterwork done...better gear...no billion damage about 600 million...i only succeeded pit with the help of a spiritborn...more than 100 billion damage for her
i dont understand the point of using "Noxious Ice" can anyone explain? it buffs poison damage, and poison isn't being used as a damage source, only to proc buffs, as your main damage is coming from victimize, so whats the point of this aspect?
@xNightxxWingx your damage is considered poison element due to imbue and so is the victimize procs. Due to this, noxious ice works. The wording is a bit weird though, but it has been tested.
@@DiEoxidE ahh okay that actually makes sense then, that was the only part of the build I was really confused on and had me contemplating using something else in place of it really appreciate the quick reply, will be piecing this together right now thanks a ton dude!
Hey, I got a build basically exacty the same as yours, with even better items and stats, Over 1.7K vuln dmg (how much you have?),yet i struggle to hit above 500m on a 75 pit, glyphs are around 60, Only glyph not active yet is canny, paragon is copied from your "glyphs46" board on your mythic planner, (I got all three mythics) what can it be? Maybe i should try change to the paragon boards you have in the video, which is bit different? or Did they nerf it? The build is litterally a copy from yours. (amulet doesnt have one skill but shouodt matter) Im getting annoyed by spirits all having the same build and hitting 4 bln and bragging :) help! please I cant proceed :( Update: Changed to new build from 19/10, 1850 vul dmg, 165% Lucky hit, same result, no billions, cant complete a pit 80, what am i doing wrong? Whats your movement/attack set like?
@@klebermatteus6634 no, i quit d4, after failing self made dance of knives and subsequently copying exactly dieoxide with even better stats and not being able to go more than T84, i concluded it was shot before some patch that nerfed the rogue, I wasted enough time. Ill wait for PoE2, PoE never failed me, whereas d4 always left me bitter for one reason or the other.
This is for the Barrage fans! Super strong build (relative to Rogue ofc). As usual, continue to use and check the planner as updates will be made as more things get discovered.
I also decided to keep shadow step in the written guide as people tend to not like playing without an unstoppable. Also, for inspiration, here's a 6.4B victimize crit:
www.twitch.tv/dieoxide/clip/KawaiiFairSardineTwitchRPG-A7yPtMtsy7UyPDo0
Happy pew pewing!
Is it critical that my umbracrux totem roll is 3 sec?)
@xyudadblp 3 seconds is really rough lol. Farm or gamble another one.
What skill are you using to proc umbcrux totem?
@@ophideo it literally says in the item description
bro what's the best build for infinite rain of arrow?
Dieoxide holding down the rogue fort steady while almost everyone’s blasting spiritborn 😂 what a giga homie 😎
Thank you for posting rogue builds man, i only see new spirit born builds and the S.B is cool but rogue is my favorite so ive been trying to find good builds this season.
Yessss been waiting for this build. I can barely survive T3 with DoK, can’t imagine T4. S5 Barrage worked fine with me so I’m going back. Ty!
Was fun to watch this one come together on your stream!
Happy to see creators on Maxroll that aren't the same few like past seasons. I look forward to seeing more builds from you!
Another great build played your Infinite Barrage build last season had a lot of fun it being my first season I put a lot of time into I played the story at launch and quit not long after and only caught the last 2 weeks of season 4 so last season was really my first endgame run and your build was awesome can’t wait to play this one too thanks again.
hey man just wanna thank you for keeping rapid fire updated. its been a blast so far
I'm using your heart seeker build instead I feel like heartseeker or barrage power is so similar that it's just a playstyle preference. I like barrage but I just wish they would make a straight up multishot from D3 or cluster arrows or sentries marauder build was OP but my god it was fun.
Hi! Thank you for the build guide, looks very fun (similar to last season andariels) to play this build! Are you able to do an updated video based on all the changes made recently to the maxroll guide? I've seen another video similar to this that doesn't use poison imbument and was very capable of clearing T90+ pits. I think this might be able to go to Pit 100 with the right setup.
@Blyfee This has already done a t100. Poison is indeed a little stronger and for big pushes, cowl is a little stronger than hier of perdition, but feels awful for speedfarming pits (only works well on bosses with minions)
Only change i made on maxroll is shroud, because it wasn't available in the game when i made this video.
@@DiEoxidE Oh awesome! Thanks for such a prompt reply. Looks like I've got my weekend sorted out now! Have a good one
Definitely trying this one out. Currently running Twisting Blades build and it's not bad I just prefer more ranged.
your heartseeker or barrage better? built ur heartseeker but barrage seems better and equipement seems nearly the same that's why i ask. also got starless skies tyrael and heir
@nicotach5179 barrage is a little stronger.
I like both builds.
im giving up on dancing knives and going to this
Big mistake lol
@@Rafael-km9mx why
@@DeezNooots cuz its way better than this lol
@@Rafael-km9mxI dont think it actually is
@@jk76111 you don't have to think anything. It's already well known that DoK is currently the stronger rogue build lmao. Its not a matter of opinion
I'm running very similar setup, but with slightly different board pathing. Very tanky, good damage, fairly easy to play.
Only issue I have with Victimize Barrage: wild damage swings between deleting something like an Aether Fiend on T4 the moment it spawns or slap for 20+ billion in party setup against Tormented bosses, but then I'm spending x2-3 casts of barrage to clean up singular normal basic enemy...
I wonder if there's a way to bring up the baseline damage somehow with, maybe, crit damage (because between "Fist of Fate", "Heir of Perdition" and "Shroud of False Death" - you're already sitting at ~50% crit chance, 100% if "Trick Attacks" is revved up) or... Something else?
Tested shroud of false along with a good roll windforce, I just couldnt find a crossbow with GA on Vuln. Damage seem much more consistent and it melts all normal content. Currently up to pit 92 with quite a bit of room to grow. I dont think it will go higher than maybe 100 or 105, but will see. Busy playing with increasing barrage skill points vs malice to get further consistent damage. Victimize I dont understand, the numbers on the skill change without me doing anything, not sure if you know why it changes dramatically. Considering changing my amulet passives which are currently malice and frigid and dropping one of them for more exploit points
thank you man for making such good rogue builds
Thanks D, I can't wait to try this. DoK was good for leveling but trying to manage that channeling snapshot isnt very fun beyond Torment1...
What is stronger? Barrage or Heartseeker? or say the same? Thx :)
Spiritborn
@@martingro5317 barrage is a little stronger.
Barrage easily.😊
@@DiEoxidE which one is easier to just get going? Spiritborn is so busted I get bored (and spoiled). nice videos mate
@olaoberg4165 heartseeker.
However, both barrage and heartseeker share the exact same paragon boards and most of the same gear, so it's easy to make the switch if you feel like.
I do this myself when i just want to play the other build.
Hey, any worth build as flurry?
hi, thx for the video, but where do you get the barrier from?
Barrier is from Second Wind.
i was lookin on yt for a viable build that doesent need crazy items to work,is this one of them? or u just need to have everything perfect and every single item to work? i'm not the type of player that can spend a lot of time grinding for items,so i was wondering if one of those infinite amount of builds videos there's something actually playable without grinding every freakin day T_T (hope its understandable,my english is kinda bad xD)
Never thought I'd see barrage victimize edge out andariels
Patiently waiting for Andys to get brought back to life
I'm already running Andariels on my rogue with Heartseeker and it's still OP!! And the gameplay is still fun
@@GrownManPat Same only im doing the barrage andys rogue and its is still very strong, havent even got it geared like it needs and just cleared a 50 pit not to bad!
Thanks for the great video and amazing build. I have a blast playing it. One question: Why are you not using "Lucky Hit: Up to X% Chance to Make Your Target Vulnerable for X Seconds"? I am just wondering what I miss. Thaks a lot and keep up the great work!
Barrage passive makes them vulnerable every 3rd shot
wow he did it. nailed over a billion dmg at 1:17
edit: i take that back, he does even more than that as the video went on
Hello, nice build! Do you think it will work similarly without the seasonal content but with Vessel of Hatred of course? (in eternal kingdom)
Ran barrage last season I'm currently running dance of knives and its definitely not as strong as everybody thought, about to switch back..
Same. Also played barrage last season, but I don't wanna do the same this season. Hope DoK gets a little buff.
im still blowin thru t2 with dok, but i feel it slowin, to be fair i havent started temperin yet so we shall see. i ran barrage and heartseeker last season with heartseeker in 4 and LOVED it.
Yes it is. You just have to figure it out.
@@aivathedog7529 As much as I would love it to get a buff and just "do more damage", I think the real buff would be quality of life stuff. The real killer of this build is having to constantly move long distances and ironically, opening doors ruin everything. Don't get me started on chugging potions that is integral to scaling your damage lol
Idk man. I'm blowing through T2 with ease. Only 3 Ancestrals and and those are only masterworked to lvl 4. And I'm only at paragon 130. The paragon definitely matters more on DoK than the others.
I'd recommend running poison imbument with high crit, and snapshot conceilment for guaranteed crits.
Dioxide what do you think is better this barrage build or Dancing knives? Just started a rogue today but im torn between what way i wanna go 😅
Hi DiEoxidE! Thanks for making this build, I'm just starting a new Rogue character. What is the skill that you make the barrage looks like the "Artillery" strike, with multiple arrows hitting targets? Thank you.
Edited: Ah i just realised that was from Tyrael's Might armor. For this build, do you recommend Tyrael's Might or Shroud of False Death? Thanks!
@@shareloh false death
@@DiEoxidEthanks man for the quick reply! Any chance you could make another video with the False Death chest and the gear set up? That would be really appreciated =)!!!
Thanks!❤
Great job man! The paragon board in the Mythics version seems to have 103 points to be assigned, possible?
Question:
None of the meta builds ever use Windforce but when I look at what it does it seems amazing. What am I missing? I’m just a newb trying to gg
Barrage doesnt do damage, you utilize Victimize, you just use barrage to spread and spam it.
Good morning Makinon, I have seen the build, and what I see is that there is a possibility that you can build a build adding blade dance with barrage for example, that is to say make a mixed build.
Greetings
Have you tried Andariel's on this buil yet? Will it work?
I’m genuinely curious as well. What would be the pros and cons of it?
If I don't have the DLC and I plan to buy it later, what runes would work for the helmet and chest? since I don't have access to the legendary runes ty for the Build :D
@@Gaahl696 The written guide has backup runes for you to choose from.
Thoughts on alchemical admixture? The new key passive seems not that great. Really only useful for increasing poison damage?
Was hoping to combine it with word of Hakan for an ulti elemental build, but feel like precision will be better, which would be a shame.
hi, the bigger numbers appear to be coming from the crits (yellow numbers). But the victimize procs appear to be relatively smaller?
Just transitioned to this at 60 (50). Great build but I really struggle with Energy. Couldn’t kill Tormented Varshan on Torment 1 as I kept running out of Energy.
Not sure if DoK is gona be able to destroy t4 comfortably so which is stronger this season, heartseeker or barrage?
Barrage
@@zachfern3190barrage andy or victimiz
@@Kyysik Victimize
I'm enjoying the build, an am about 200 paragon. I cannot figure out how your build is different than mine, but you're regularly hitting for 1+ billion. Is there some super critical thing to take the build over the edge that I'm missing?
Its probably the mythics. The Umbracrux getting hit by Tyrael's Might arrows adds up really fast. If you are barraging towards mobs instead of your Totem you're missing out on a lot of damage also. I made that mistake when I first built Victimize too.
@@Gweivyth do you think those things are what is having him hit for 1bil? I can see how those can do increased damage, but i'm literally only hitting for max about 35-40mil an explosion. i have over 1000% extra vuln damage. 3 star FoF and TONS of lucky hit. Just can't figure it out.
@@colinmcneil I can't say for sure since I'm not playing this exact build, but that was the difference for me at least while playing Victimize.
did u figure it out? i'm hitting for few millions most of the time like 200 to 500 mill so i wonder how to hit billoins too lmao. played yesterday some duriel runs in a group and i've seen pretty often numbers like 26b i even made a screenshot but while playing solo i can't really seem to get over a million so i'm not sure if i hit for that much or somebody else and it was bugged. my gear is pretty much like urs nearly bis
@@nicotach5179 i think it has to do with glyph levels. i was checking it out, and since slowly starting to crank out and upgrade their levels, my damage is starting to increase exponentially. i'm still not 100% yet, but working on it.
im having hard time to transition to torment 3 with this build. I have the ancestral version but didnt switched to death trap yet. For that you want me to give up two passives that gives me alot of defense. Also I cant let go of inner sight. without it my resource is running low all the time
I hope the snapshot stuff with Dance of Knives get fixed because most people will use that broken build. I used it but it got boring fast, for me fun is experimenting and having success with whatever you come up with. I don't need to clear Pit 100 and have full ancestral gear at day 1, defeats the entire purpose. On top I was always a barrage enjoyer :) . I tried with precision at first but seems Victimize is way better.
Here im thinking my rapid fire build was good, at least i got most of the mystics on the list cause im switching to barrage for sure
Barrage power ! So cool ! I think this build can go very strong. Andy or victimiz better ? Can we play poison trap ?
YOUR planer on maxrol is diferent!!gems are diferent skills ....havent you updated it yet?
The best build for rogue is rapid fire. After you find scoundrel kiss ring you may relax and enjoy
Got yesterday a Umbracroux with GA on Innnervation. Maybe I go for Barrage now. Or I wait to Spin2Wins return
What would you say is stronger. Rapid fire or barrage?
@ryanjackson8799 barrage is the better all around build, rapid fire is stronger for high level pit pushing
Thank you. Been running your rapid fire build past seasons so going to try out barrage
Awesome video! I just started this build and am having huge energy issues. How can we solve it early game?
Starlight aspect will help lots
Hello brother! Is Rapid Fire still viable in season 6?
@@DavidsonBraga yes. Will be doing a video guide on that next.
@@DiEoxidEis there any benefit to using Andariel’s in this build?
@@sidelviajero nope
What's the strongest Rouge build so far this season?
@@Trapinnewyork44 looks like rapid fire for pushing pits
thank you
Good man
Is this still strong even with the victimize changes?
@@FriZ.. This is with the change
How is single target damage on this build?
It's decent, as long as you place the totem right behind the target.
Its getting hard to beat T4 with DoK. So I think switching to this build. What you you guys think? Is it stronger then DoK?
I think you’re right I’m switching from DoK to this right now. T3 was a breeze with DoK but in T4 its not making it unless you’re min maxed like M1PY
i'm having problems with energy, could be my innervation points? i have 3
Why we dont use helm of Andariel for this build? Last season, helm of Andariel the main building item.
i try to run that build follow MaxRoll Ancestral and i m struggling in t3. i have no DLC so no ruins and damage are random and average and survival bad. I m parangon 180 was hoping it would run smoother any idea ? is that something only viable with DLC runes and merc?
Doombringer umbracrux without losing too much damag? If everything is perfectly tempered with ga on vulnerable dmg
is it got nerfed to the ground?
hi man i was just wanted to say i switch to this build maybe yesterday and i dont even have all my glyphs sloted beacuse havent dropped yet, i had a 63B crit hit in a Pit run
so i cant wait to see how far it can go with max out gear!
really thanks for this detailed video ! keep it cominnn
What does poison imbuement do for victimize?
It's for the alchemical advantage and alchemist fortune perks in the skill tree. Also allows you to use eldritch bounty paragon board.
@@DiEoxidE This can be done with the temper on the one handed weapon. I suspect the important thing is having a higher lucky hit chance than vanilla barrage.
@Smhallways This is only true on alchemical advantage. Alchemist forture requires the skill to be non physical.
Also, temper does not proc eldritch bounty legendary node.
@@DiEoxidE Yes on the Fortune, but why would we want the Eldritch Bounty node in the first place, when Deadly Ambush does more, 23% vs 20%. And you get faster trap deployement. I would take the poison imbuement for the fortune and poison lucky hit, but would switch the paragon to Ambush. Just my thoughts anyway.
@Smhallways You can do this, but it means you're more reliant on casting caltrops and containing all the mobs in a small AoE, which people hate in general. Caltrops is a nice buff that's optional to use, mainly in elite fights/bosses. Deadly Ambush essentially makes you play around it and less "optional"
Eldritch bounty just flows because you don't have to think about it and it's unconditional (not to mention that board has easier access to all resistances, making it easier to cap).
Keep in mind im aware you can play this physical and there are setups out there like that. The end result is similar. Would you rather play around an imbuement or around a trap for the damage motifier that separates the two ideally. This is basically what it comes down to.
Where does the barrier come from? Anyone care to explain?
@@Δημητρης-κ7ζ second wind passive.
Been following your build, got myself a 3ga tyr, now your build calls for shroud. What is the reasoning?
@patico-ib9nz shroud of false death was disabled until 3 days ago.
Can't promote or wear a chest that couldn't drop or be crafted at the time with no timeline on when it would be fixed and available to the public.
With that said, tyraels is still good, just shroud is better.
your video/planer has two different chest items... ?
@sasquatcher4869 shroud of false death was disabled during the time i made this video.
@@DiEoxidE ty for your reply, ty for your build guide
So I’m confused I feel like the mythic guide in the planner and what you have in the video don’t line up and I don’t understand which one to follow
@korbinmenosky5127 planner, but its practically the same. Left shadow step in the guide because people don't like playing without an unstoppable.
That's it.
@@DiEoxidEThanks for the response I guess I was more meaning the gear tbh the gear you have in the video and the gems and rune words used don’t match with the planner so I think that is what was confusing me.
@@korbinmenosky5127this got me last season but I believe it’s because he plays other builds that use similar gear so he uses what he has for an example in the video but the planner shows exactly whats best I could be wrong tho just guessing.
does this build can do pit 100?
Yes
Sadly the written guide link on the description is not updated with what you have shown on the video. I'm skeptical about the paragons so would that possible for you to update that one as well?
Awesome guide and build btw, looking forward to max this out!
@emreokuyucu9822 about 95% of whats in the video is still in the written guide. I also mentioned in the video that the paragon board was not optimized and to check the planner for the optimized board and stated why.
I also made mentioned of keeping shadow step instead of dash in the written guide due to most not liking running without an unstoppable. This was mentioned in my pinned comments.
That about covers it. All very minor.
@@DiEoxidE In ur written guide u have high velocity on the amulet and in the video u got retributuion on it. Which one is better? :)
What is causing the occasional 1 bil+ crits? I get those, but I dont understand why they are so scarce
If you proc victimize on 10 Target AT the same time the game now merge them into only one, as per the 0.5s cumulative cooldown
how do you proc dark shroud pls ?
Mot Rune.
I know this has probably been asked to death, but I can't find an answer.. Why isn't anderial barrage still a thing? The only answer I found was the nova doesn't crit any more?
They added an internal cooldown on Andariel with patch 2.0, so yeah its sad... Kinda ridiculous imho
do shadow clones add to victimize?
No
Is this currently stonger then DoK for Endgame?
Sure , DoK not working as It supposed to do
Why does the planner build look quite different? Different chest piece etc.
Chest piece was disabled (wasn't dropping in the game) during the creation of this video, so Tyraels might was a placeholder and easy way to cap resistances.
@@DiEoxidE okay so Chest piece in build planner is preferred over TM?
Appreciate the content btw. Subscribed 👊
Sorry, he probably won't respond since this is old. I noticed we're using Frigid Finesse, but how are we chilling enemies to take advantage of that skill?
@ThatStevenT fist of fate applies all crowd controls, including chill and freeze.
You were right about "him" totally not responding
@DiEoxidE My dudes GOATED
what makes the dark shroud activate?
@@lucasborsoi2255 mot rune
well i suppose you got no time to answer, just was wondering , in case you see this, about your new rogue barrage with shroud, will you put a correct skill rotation up?
@XimoXThe i receive 100s of comments throughout various platforms a day. It's quite possible i may have not seen your previous message.
Have you had the chance to check the planner and the written maxroll guide? Everything is updated with shroud already as of yesterday.
@@DiEoxidE yes yes, of course , i understand you cant answer to everybody! dont worry! I was wondering whats the first attack you do while stealthed to get the shroud bonus. Couldnt find it in the skill roptation thats why i ask. I just cant get this build to run like yours :) not even close, and i have my glyphs all 70 and a lot of vul dmg and lucky hit
@XimoXThe the stealth damage is not important as it's additive.
Biggest thing is smoke grenade and caltrops on elites. Smoke grenade is most important due to the totem spawn from umbracrux. Huge damage scaling when it's out.
hi
this bild kill tournament boss?
There's a torment boss kill towards the beginning of the video.
why overcapped armor?
Hey, nice setup. A question, why not windforce?
@XimoXThe barrage doesn't deal any damage in the setup. It all comes from victimize, so the barrage ranks and the knockback damage doesn't apply to victimize.
why you don't use Windforce?
Victimize doesn't scale with your damage, so the barrage ranks are useless.
The unique affix also doesn't work with Victimize
how do you keep your energy up without starless sky ? i cant seem to find how
Try starlight aspect.
And unbracrux with points in innervation
My barrage is fully maxed i cant do anything past pit 90. Where as a dok build is at pit 99 lool. Like where am i going wrong its 3 GA minimum on all my gear i followed sanctums guide on the victimse barrage.
@ienjoyedit9444 are you fishing for the right map/mob type/boss? Basically in the 90s, this is required, Barrage is capable of 100.
Also, not sure why you would ask me about someone elses version of the Barrage build you're following. You should go to the source.
@@DiEoxidE yeah i followed your build at first i couldnt get it past 85s then decided to go with 2 leg rings and change up the paragon a little to get to 90. other than that i feel like its the victimise dmg letting it down.
Wait. Spiritborn does not have barrage? What is this?
😂
You lost me a multiple Mythic Uniques. Love to know how you got 3 already
@@bigbeef8190 bossing.
There's a version without mythics in the planner
I just got a Three GA Windforce and came here to find out Barrage does no damage. What a shame.
Yeah would be nice to make classic Windforce worth to use
DoK is still top dog easily.
DoK when
Was really hoping this was an actual barrage build, not another Victimize build that only uses the skill as a delivery mechanism...
just do the balance changes early this seasn blizzard- tune down the monk and biff the others... nice work though! €: honetly its jut the staff that makes it broken though
How have all these Mythics already
@bigbeef8190 Kill lots of bosses.
Seeing rogue struggling is kind of sad , I really love this class ,but it is underpowered and difficult to takes on the new content
Game is already at D3 integers lol
I run barrage...i have better stats....all glyphs upgraded...all masterwork done...better gear...no billion damage about 600 million...i only succeeded pit with the help of a spiritborn...more than 100 billion damage for her
@PaSa-s2t make sure you have all buffs up.
If you go in attacking without stacking all your buffs, you'll hit like a wet noodle.
@DiEoxidE thanks for the quick reply...i ll give it a try hope it works
i dont understand the point of using "Noxious Ice" can anyone explain?
it buffs poison damage, and poison isn't being used as a damage source, only to proc buffs, as your main damage is coming from victimize, so whats the point of this aspect?
@xNightxxWingx your damage is considered poison element due to imbue and so is the victimize procs.
Due to this, noxious ice works. The wording is a bit weird though, but it has been tested.
@@DiEoxidE ahh okay that actually makes sense then, that was the only part of the build I was really confused on and had me contemplating using something else in place of it
really appreciate the quick reply, will be piecing this together right now
thanks a ton dude!
The planner is gone
@@SabineWren-tx1uq should be fixed now
@ thank you! I love your builds!
Hey, I got a build basically exacty the same as yours, with even better items and stats, Over 1.7K vuln dmg (how much you have?),yet i struggle to hit above 500m on a 75 pit, glyphs are around 60, Only glyph not active yet is canny, paragon is copied from your "glyphs46" board on your mythic planner, (I got all three mythics) what can it be? Maybe i should try change to the paragon boards you have in the video, which is bit different? or Did they nerf it? The build is litterally a copy from yours. (amulet doesnt have one skill but shouodt matter) Im getting annoyed by spirits all having the same build and hitting 4 bln and bragging :) help! please I cant proceed :(
Update: Changed to new build from 19/10, 1850 vul dmg, 165% Lucky hit, same result, no billions, cant complete a pit 80, what am i doing wrong? Whats your movement/attack set like?
I have the same problem, did you find any solution?
@@klebermatteus6634 no, i quit d4, after failing self made dance of knives and subsequently copying exactly dieoxide with even better stats and not being able to go more than T84, i concluded it was shot before some patch that nerfed the rogue, I wasted enough time. Ill wait for PoE2, PoE never failed me, whereas d4 always left me bitter for one reason or the other.