How to choose an LED grow light | Complete guide to buying an LED grow light
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
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A complete guide to buying and LED grow light guide including:
What size grow area to plan
Estimated yield per square foot, square meter or per watt
How many watts should the grow light be
What grow light spectrum to chose
Grow light form: LED bar light or 'quantum board' or panel led grow light
What features a grow light should have
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Best grow light UA-cam page hands down
I'm LIT with Migro, go Shane!
There's a lot of nonsense out there!!! Best statement ever
The size of the hydro plant over his shoulder! 😵🤯
I'm binge watching your light videos tonight. I want to upgrade before i grow again. It's been well over ten years and my old light was a 1000 watt hps.
Try the ARAY 5X5. Perfect replacement for 1,000w hps
@@MIGROLIGHT Very cool. thank you.
I have a 4 x 4 in a limited space that I can only access two sides of the tent - pruning was a nightmare so I set up a turntable from an 8 x 4 sheet of ply cut it half - with a Lazy Suzanne bearing and low profile casters between the two halfs - so I grow 4 large plants per cycle which I can rotate to trim them - working well but I do need a light upgrade...!
Excellent and informative as always keep it up have helped us novices understand the noice of lights!!! It is very appreciated 💚✌️
Thank u for the information always a great show ✌️
I just bought a 4 aray from you shane ..cant wait to get it…they look awesome…im hoping to increase my yield significantly…thx
thanks for the tips!
Thaaank you. This is exactly the type of video i need to watch 🙏
Thank you for your knowledge I'm trying
Thank you.
As always, great work. ...
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I got it to flower and starting too, bud .I'm just using normal over the counter Bulbs, and I have gotten this far just the seed soil a pot and its crazy + the thing its in I made so it's a proper DIY . LOVE THE SHOWS MAN "" IT GETS MY 🧠 TICKING AND I HAVE .MADE A DESIGNE "" BASED ON BITS TAKEN FROM YOUR DIFFERT VIDEOS. SO RESPECT 🙏 MY MAN ✌️ ☮️ peace out
Thank you for advice on the Spider Farmer lights & discount code.
I love your tips and knowledge....your videos have helped me a great deal..... ! I'm on my first indoor grow. I'm finishing up my first run but it's taking 5 months so far and I have a few weeks to go. In a 4x4 room with a 415watt led light is it worth it to grow 6 auto flowers to get smoke a little quicker or is is it really worth it to go photo period and be patient ?
Love the videos. Can you do a video on the new hlg tomahawk? There new bar style.
Thanks Shane 👌
You are the man, Shane.
So you want to grow? ok, this is what you need for a personal grow, and you don't need this.
I have a 5ft×7ft x 8ft tall grow room,
I have perched 2 sp4000 & 1 KS5000
Over the past 2 years, because I didn't understand, about even light spread, and that you don't need that much power to give the plants what they need, only 500 to 800 par
O well
hi, for 35 sq ft you need about 35 x 30 = 1,050 watts. It looks like you have about 1300 watts so you should be at about 1,100 µmols average which is a high level.
@MIGROLIGHT Shane, you are probably one of the most trusted regarding led lights & and reviews, and this is your business. I would love to see how you would set up a basic 4x4 grow room / tent, light, temp, humidity, ventilation, and how much par and when to start bumping it up, basically how to use the equipment with out overkill.
Anyway, thanks for everything. we do appreciate you 🙏 ❤️
If he did, it likely wouldnt work where you are because the ambient temp and humidity would be different
@@Eric-dz1we
Just bought your new Migro 4 x 4 can't wait to use with my auto girls. That are currently suffering in our humid cloudy weather here in uk
Are you using a grow tent with a water cooler or u doing a outdoor grow?
@@abbasahmed7280 grow tent. 1,2m x 1,2m x 2m. no cooler just 4 inch intake 6 inch out. 12inch fan on floor 3 6 inch clip on fans, 2 on canopy 1 on light. light driver out of tent. my girls were outdoors now in the tent indoors. 3 weeks into flower
good tips ... Ive just gone from 2 lights of 500 watts in my 5x5 to one EVO 8 (730watts) from AC Infinity & wow , its super efficient & the same wattage im getting loads more light & coverage ..so yeah look fwd to you reviewing the EVO Ionframe lights with the new EVO diods & see what you make of it & its new spectrum it has.. looks a lot warmer 😎
Is ac infinity a better option than spider/Mars hydro as far as quality goes?
@@sk8legendz yeah AC is better quality by about 2 times at least .. sadly MH lets them selves down with poor cable & electrics
@@sk8legendzAC INFINITY U get fantastic customer service and great products, spider farmer customer service is shocking just hope U don't get a faulty light like I did.
@@sk8legendzAC infinity are the leaders spider and mars are no comparison,there customer service sucks it's a joke,AC infinity are a different story.
The light is quality and I like my evo 6 but honestly my fce4800 produces better and more. Not to mention it runs cooler under full power.
Hey Shane, don't want to sound like I know more than I do, but can you talk about what BIN LEDs you for the Array line? Many thanks.
Shane, have you done any tests on any of these new LED set ups from the old hps manufacturers like maxibright and lumii that use the HID ballast??
No I haven't yet. They have not contacted me to test them yet
Great video Shane, I'm running the grow light science Progrow 850 in my 5x5 and so far, it's really a nice LED. happy plants 🪴💯🔥
Love how you explain these topics. Maybe a silly question but why don’t we see any light fixtures that are completely red leds?
Because plants benefit from more than just red light....
I really wish I had found migro before I bought my lights. I’ll guess I’ll just need to get another tent
I'd love to see a video covering what light to use for keeping a mother plant.
I am currently thinking of getting a Migro Aray 2 for the job in a 2x2 tent, but i am unsure if that's a smart thing to do since it would be dimmed constantly :D
If it'll only ever be your clone/seedling/veg light you don't need as much intensity and can use lower wattage than something that would be used for the full cycle
Love your videos, very informative about growing using variety of LED’s. Do you have a thought on the quality of the plants, buds, when growing 9 plants in a 4x4 tent compared to only growing 4 plants, in a 4x4? Do you loose quality of buds when you grow small plants vs larger more mature plants? Do smaller plants produce the same exact same THC levels , and terpenes, regardless of plant size??? Thanks
The quality of the harvest should not vary with the size of plants grown
@@MIGROLIGHT So excuse my ignorance here!, So the plants DNA let’s say, is going to produce the same THC levels, in the buds, regardless of plants size, before flipping to a normal flowering time. So are you saying the only difference is Quantity, when growing smaller vs bigger vegged plants.
@@scottinsierras2945yes.
Some of the nicest looking, ready to harvest plant pics I've seen, were in a seed bank review, with posts on several varieties.
This guy was always growing over 20 plants, from seed, using Coco coir in half gallon, plastic bag type pots, with Blue Planet Nutrients Farmers Pride Organic blend and their supplements. All in a 3x3 tent using an HLG 240W Quantum Board for lighting.
Nice, big, trichome packed colas, held still with a hand in a purple nylon glove, while the other hand takes the pics. Probably the nicest looking plants/colas I've seen!
I think the half gallon containers keep the plant branches from growing out horizontally, as much as a larger container would encourage..?!
I never would have believed it, unless seeing it myself. Over 20 seedlings to harvest, in a 3x3 tent. I've seen pics from 3-4 different runs, and really nice, fat, sparkling, colas!
Obviously, some serious experience. And, love for the girls!
I know the question was not aimed at me, but those things are genetics and environment, rather than plant count.
Plant count and more so root mass to biomass ratio has more effect on yield.
Sanan , Nichia , Phillips , Seoul Cree
Moso , Sosen, Powerland , Osram inventronics, all great leds and drivers..
Good stuff
what hight do you recommend for Led 1000w bestAV 2023 full spectrum? My first 2 autos were stunted, and had burn, didn't recover in time so didn't get much from them
Thanks for simplifying it Shane, I'm a simple man with a simple plan. I still havent found clarity on Co2 supplement + par + EC, and its a mystery to me. Really wanna/gonna get your latest, but being mid-pacific makes shipping dushlan a bheiith agat.
if I have a 4x4 tent is it better to get say 2 x mars hydro fc3000- evo or 1 x Fc4800-evo ?
seems both will fit. does having two smaller 300w actually give you the effect of 600w in? or does one big at 480w better ?
Looking for recommendations for 4'x6' trays. I'm looking to get away from HID.
Right now running 2000w over each 4'x6' table with 4' tall plants. What LED's would you recommend to get comparable intensity and penetration ?
Please do a review and par test on the AC Infinity ionframe Evo6 or Evo8 grow light next!!! I'd greatly appreciate it!!!
They are sending me one soon for test👍
@@MIGROLIGHT cool
Gets about 1100-1200 par in middle about 12inches away and about 700 in corners pretty consistent across the board tested with an apogee par sensor not ton of heat got driver outside my tent 5x5
Got mine 24inches away on 6 and getting 500par
@@Ohiogrown89 I don't have the money for a legit accurate light meter because you can't trust those cheap ones
Hi Shane, I’ve got a 2 mtr x 2 mtr tent, I’ve got 4 x 600w hps, should I use 4 x 480 led,s ?? still wanting to make the switch from hps to Led,, but realy bricking it, please advise, thanks 🙏
Good guide but everything is relative in growing. I've seen people pulling off 500+ grams from 1 autoflower. You can definitely fill up 3x3 with 1 auto. The key strategy is genetics, hydro and a lot of light.
I can't tell you how happy i am with my Viparspectra KS 3000 in my 1m x 1m tent. I got it a few weeks ago. I could not resist bc now you get a better driver with it compared to last year. The spread is outstanding. It actually pushes 325 Watts in real and you can connect external controller like the AC Infinity 69 controller. I coudnt wait for your new light Shane. l would have had to go with the 4x4 model anyway for my 1m x1m tent and run it a bit lower in wattage. And the different cost was another point to look at. Im sure your 4x4 model would have been awesome in my 1m x 1m tent...but the KS 3000 was like almost 200€ less than your 4x4 model. And another reason was i could not wait any longer...😜 But im still running two of your old COBs for veg and cloning...still working after more than 5 years...but they don't have to run that hard anymore. 😉 I actually know that one of your new lights would have been a blast for me...keep it up Shane. Im a big fan of your channel for over 5 years now. 👍👍👍
I just bought his 4 x 4 for £456. How did you get a ks3000 for like 200 quid less? Cheapest I saw them was 360
@@manilove2pwn at Migro it is 519 Euros. On e.😁 b.😁 a. 😁y i get the KS 3000 for 385 Euros...bc im a good customer i got another 10%. That was a great deal for me. But i would not run the KS 3000 in a 4x4...then i would go for the KS 5000 (595 Euros) or the new Migro 4x4 model. 👍
@@JoyfulVAPE didn't know the price from euro to gbp was that much. Fair play great deal on the ks3000 i had a ks 5000 but it kept flickering sent back got new one happened again faulty driver. got money back and got the new 4 x 4
How do you keep the tent heated with LEDs. Winter they are useless you need a heater.
@@billyballsup2685 broken record ??? 😜
I have 2 options for flowering. full spectrum or Red/white with alot of red . What's best for flowering?
i use a 18hr on 6 hour off. who does 16/ 8 thats crazy?
Hello Shane
Thank you for the info.
Spider farmer 30 watt UVA & now a 40 watt UV & IR bar light for a few bucks more.
Does this IR do any good?
There is no evidence to justify using UVA and IR vs just adding more PAR light for more yield.
Great info here.
However the Migro Aray 5x5 light on the website is priced at $677.00 and if you change to euros it is even more €736,82. Is this correct ? It says $649 in the list here.
Any plans of testing the Omega infinity?
I recently bought one so I'd like to second that!
Would be interested to see if they live up to claimed stats
hello shane i like video Shane a question about you talk about warm white and cool 4000k Led in this video would it be ok to add 6400k leds
as a supplement i`am thinking of adding 4*20w (2ft length) samsung 6400k strips
vertical in the 4 corners where par maps seem to fall short what do you think
Hi,
6400k would be more beneficial in the vegetative stage
Where can I buy that shirt?
Since HPS is getting increasingly hard to come by Sooner or later I will have to switch up so Its good to know where the industry is at. It is going to be a sad day when I have to put a bullet in my ballast and say farewell though. It has given me good, reliable 1g per watt results for many years all now hassle free.
Asking too much of your grow space is also something a newer grower does. Sure you can get 2G per watt, but do you want it? If you pack your space too tight, even with circulation you can run into mold and bud rot then you lose the whole crop. Unless you are prepared to start filling your space with ac and CO2 tanks and dehumidifiers. I don't even have AC in my house. My pot plant ain't getting Air conditioning before I do. 😂
do you have a video along the line if UV & IR on light that are either fixed, fixed but own switches and add on supplemental (like spiderfarmer has) as well as timing for those with there own control, assuming they shouldn't be on all the time.
Imo, the UV diodes are pointless, I would veg without the far red and then turn it on for flower
Those vegetables growing in the background are going to be the nicest tasting in Ireland you can get once they are done hahaha!
So this list of light that was compared was for a 5x5 area.
I'm wondering where would the Aray 12 be in this list ? Because it is slightly pricier that Aray 5x5 but the efficiency is the same.
The difference with the ARAY 12 is it's modular, slightly more expensive as each four bar light has it own controller.
Thank you, Shane! You’re read all my previous comments and answered all my questions! What about multi tier using of led for commercial grow? It’s not a simple setup for the weight of led…. Please, record a future video about it
In a 3x3 tent my best in organic soil are:
315W CMH - 1.76 grams per watt.
300W LED - 1.35 grams per watt.
And these are autoflower grows.
BS
@@hervebogersI have zero incentive to lie. Why are you so butthurt?
What light do you use to give you that effect 😉
And one more thing that I can't resist asking.
In the website the Aray 5x5 Efficiency PPF/Watt is 2.7.
In this list however usable PPF*/Watt is 2.4. Are these different metrics ?
2.7 is sphere tested, 2.4 is actual efficiency at canopy level, most companies won't tell you this figure.
@@MIGROLIGHT Thank you for the clarification. And yes, unfortunately the vast majority of the companies are not sharing this info.
Whats your opinion on the best value LED light for a 4x4?
Hi, please see the ARAY 4X4, link here: migrolight.com/products/aray-4x4
You should expect about 60 to 70 grams per square foot in a 4x4 with 600 watts 4 plants in a scrog in 5 gallon coco pots with masterblend nutrients..
Are you going to come out with an aray 5x5 + red? Wondering if it will matter, guess theyd just stretch less.
I think it would be nice to have far red for flower but not for veg
@harryramsbottom1385 yeah a switch would be nice
1.5grams with the lumitek ats 300 pro
The sun is the best growlight, so if you can, place your plants outside! I use a TS-1000 to supplement my big autoflower in the evening!
not in ireland
@@tinkletink1403 this weekend it will be fantastic outside mate
@@UNDERGROUNDHITRADIO 😎
No, it's not because you have limited amount of light per day compared to indoor. You can't have 18 hours of perfect clear sky sun every day at least in most places on Earth. And even if so you'd have problems with too high temps.
Do you realize how much cleaner indoor grown is than outdoor grown cannabis. I don't even see how people can compare the two. I'll take indoor all day.
Is the MIGRO ARAY 2 lamp enough for a 70cmx70cm box for photoperiod plants?
I would say yes. how many plants in tent?
@@manilove2pwn
3 plants 12/12 from seed
@@radekm7684 yeah bit of lst you should be good to go mate. the light will give enough coverage, when in flower lower light to about 8 inch
Hi, yes it would, link here: migrolight.com/collections/all/products/migro-aray-2-120w-red-pro-ii
thank you for your answer I will be growing mostly auto plants but sometimes I would like to grow photoperiod plants and I wasn't sure if this lamp would be enough for 70x70
Pretty sure this cool cat was the singer for oasis.
still using diy build growlight,... when it finally fails me i'll get the mars hydro
Need something for a 2x4 but I'm cheap
Hey,
Check out the ARAY 4.
migrolight.myshopify.com/collections/all/products/migro-aray-4-140w-265w
what spectrum do i select on the ppfd app for the viparspectra xs 1500 pro??
3500k + 10% red
@@MIGROLIGHT Thanks a lot appreciate the great content
It's got an app for it. Damn
Over 2g per watt is definitely achievable with top end leds
With or without C02?
@@juicyjumbler without
Uhmayzin!!
Absofuckinlutely
You’re right about the grams per watt I know people who are getting 1.7 and I’m super impressed since I’m only doing like 1.2 then I find out they are using dehumidifiers , 1 ton air conditioners , heaters and flowering for 11 weeks .
I’m just using a 300 watt extraction fan and flowering for 8 weeks. Everyone is fudging the numbers , even the way they clean and dry , heaps of stem and still damp . I fully agree anyone saying they are pulling over 1.5 are actually pulling their Cocks.
Try running another week or two in flower..
I think it's possible to do over 1.5 but these folks claiming 3gpw can jog on
Genetics and growing style is the most important when talking gpw imo. High yielding genetics with full scrog and LEDs with best uniformity = BAR DESIGN. Everything else is outdated. I'm still shocked they are making board type lights, not only that, most of them are rectangular. Good idea... when 99% of grow tents are square shaped...
1.5×1.5 how many Watts 700 ?
Full power is 1030w actual draw
Sounds like you've never grown in a big bed of soil. Not to be disrespectful, but I would setup a 4x4 bed and it'll change your mind.
Wait are you talking specifically about weed?
Mars Hydro will not honor warranty claims
Did geekbeast go out of business.
You sabatoged the dirt grow by NOT giving them newts. Do you not fertilize in a garden? We always fertilize. Do it again with rust brandons dirt recipe. Bokashi earthworks has amino acid ferts.
We gave them organic Biobizz nutrients and microbe tea
Say watt one more time 😂
LEDs are useless if it's not summer. You have to heat your room or it's to cold. Cmh even need heat in winter. Hps is needed so you don't need heaters in winter.
HPS lights are great heaters yes, also half the efficiency of LED grow lights.
@@MIGROLIGHT efficiency goes out the window when you have to add a heater.
👍👍☝️Mostly led grow lights without app have to big blue in spectrum and not enough darkgreen, yello, orange and red for flower, veg. and bloom switch-knob is better, so big blue in bloom makes longer bloom-days 1,5week and its not good for money!!! Your new 500w canapa partner bar light is nice, but i wish you have this 500w light as a half 250w 2-bar grow light with seperatly long cable on the dimmer-box to fix it seperatly outside, like the nice even ppfd, good luck!!! Germany will legalise cannabis in the next month - 1 jear, so i hope the goverment works and i can buy a good small grow light, hope you having this 250w 2-bar light to this time, i think your array have not a perfectly ppfd, little to big blue and to less bloom spectrum, but 120degree is not efficiency, the pure sun is coming directly, so with optics 80 degree on the middle, and lower degrees on the end of the light its better for a perfect ppft= is when all plots having the same number of 940-1100 ppfd!! greetings from 🇩🇪 wrongdog
I really miss the old forums I was a member of for almost two decades. Firstly at OG (Overgrow) thru Mr Nice nl
Looking forward to your upcoming group
Joe King Park 😉
I cant afford a HLG fixture. What is the next best thing for a 5x5?
I have two AC Infinity EVO6 for veg.
Hi, the ARAY 5X5 is a great solution for your space, link here: migrolight.com/collections/all/products/copy-of-aray-5x5
Roi 720 that is all
125-150 LEDs watts per plant
lol its simple the bigger the better lol who care other then that
Damn i gotta step up my light game. I'm still using blurple lights. Giixer1000 😂 hey it works good actually at least i think. Nothing good to compare it to.