Or perhaps even what the preservers used to get around the galaxy. What better way to seed new life than to have a living ship with matter-energy conversion capabilities?
There's no reason that the birth of one on a ship would rule out the birth of them from the corpses of their dead on planets. It could easily be that (and I say this having not seen lower decks, yet) that the high energy core components of a starship may well provide the same requirements as the corpse of a parent(?) so a desperate lone creature may deposit it's seed in a starship rather than waiting to die and have no peers to use IT's corpse as a nursery. Just a thought.
I could explain these being natural, as there are animals which naturally will mimic other creatures (mimic octopus) to other creatures that will even camoflage to manmade materials and colors (Cuttlefish) you take these sea creatures, stick them in space, and give them natural matter altering properties and suddenly you have a species that not only mimic other vessels but in some ways can literally become them. Give it some intelligence and then you have a creature that not only mimics, but can also learn to use a different form for different purposes (like generating warp fields with the spaceship like shape) basically what I'm saying is that these could be the very natural "Space Cuttlefish"
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge how absurd the notion is that a relatively low-tech civilization like the Bandi, could capture a star jelly, even an injured one, in the first place.
I think it was kinda starving already and landed on the planet to monch on the geothermal energy... I'd have to check that book again (haven't seen the show ep itself)
Honestly, we need only to suppose that it was in desperate need of energy (something the Bandi _could_ provide) and sense the desire for an exchange (energy for a base) but not understand the deceit in their minds that the energy would be just enough over life sustaining levels to serve the needs of the Bandi. The creature thus willingly would enter into the arrangement under the presumption that it would only need stay until the Bandi achieve their goals only to find itself trapped.
It would be totally cool to travel in one of the Star-Jellies. It would probably feel like being a pet though, with it feeding you and cleaning up after you and taking you where it wants to go.
It wouldn't be the first time Starfleet explorers have felt like that, or otherwise been reminded that their humanoid-centric perspective on life need not apply everywhere.
where would all the shit and piss go?? see that's the question right there.... if you can't explain the bathrooms, it's not real life enough LMAO!! but seriously it would feel weird to think "ya know it'd be nice to have a pizza about now" then suddenly you're holding take out from Pizza Hut or something.... number one: captain what are you doing with that pizza on the bridge? captain: I was hungry, craving a pizza and this thing just appeared in my hands Number one: egads man you don;t know where that thing's been!!! captain: [munches pizza] mm this is pretty good, here have a slice Navigator: nahh ahh, not eating imaginary food no sir no way! [staming hot instant noodle cup appears in his hands] GAAAAHHHHH!!
I like to think the one on lower decks was an accident. Somehow a live infant jelly got on board and it started feeding on the only energy it had access to, eventually able to reach maturation. It would also make sense for them to be artificial and still able to do this. How effective would it be for a race to be able to throw a fleet of ships at an enemy and have the battle be a near-total wipe leaving you only a few ships but by the time you get there the ships that survived were able to reproduce using local planet systems as fuel as well as any surviving enemy craft.
My favorite cosmozoan is definitely the Tin Man. I fell utterly in love with it the moment I saw it as a kid, and that episode is still one of my favorites.
They remind me of the Leviathans living spacecrafts of Farscape. They were engineered living spacecrafts that had they're own original way of space travel and they could reproduce
The star-jelly mode of reproduction (the nursery one) reminds me of the Huragok "Engineers" from Halo, which are an artificial species. As does their benign, but apparently rather accommodating nature. The Huragok are also gelatinous and tentacled. The idea that the space jellies could be an artificial species is definitely an interesting idea that I hadn't heard before. It seems plausible, though. The other mode of reproduction still suggests a possibly artificial origin, since it means a species could grow and breed their own jellies using, say, a space station almost like a space-dock for organic ships (ideally designed to not be ripped up by the developing organism).
Wacko theory: they are distantly related to the Dominion Founders. While the Founders adapted to be more like humanoids, these developed further their inherent abilities.
To add to your theory - ST:DS9 S7E14 "Chimera" - changeling Laas was able to turn into some sort of a "spaceship" and move at impulse speed easily catching up to Danube-class roundabout. Among other of his skills there was also turning into "flame" meaning he had control over emitting electromagnetic radiation (at least light, maybe also heat). In the same episode he manages to get to another system which suggests that he may be able to get to warp speed?
Q could have conjured the jellies up as a test for the Enterprise, or even bringing them from another galaxy. after all, it's just a game to him. (at least at that point in the timeline)
My headcanon is that cosmozoans are the reason why starships experience all sorts of technical problems in nebulae. They aren't simply massive clouds of dust and gas, but are the ruptured membranes of cosmozoans long since deceased.
a newborn of this species was encountered by the USS Rubidoux. It was reported by Captain Amina Ramsey that "while the exact classification of this space entity eludes us, we believe it to be peaceful, in search of a home." She later reminisced with Beckett Mariner that there was "nothing like a big, crazy alien to remind you why "space explorer" is such a great gig." (LD: "Much Ado About Boimler")
From the bits that we're getting thanks to one now being a ship you can get in STO (The current event reward) they are sentient, now with some choosing to take on crews. This was also, heavily, implied in the mission they're encountered in earlier on, just that their language is a color shift thing there.
I remember seeing a video that suggested that these guys were the inspiration for the logo of the Union of Planets from _The Orville._ That just makes these lovable space jellies even more awesome in my eyes.. ☺️
As we appraise, they amaze and are worthy of praise in their displays of bouquets of ballets and the ways they graze on a blaze of solarays even strays lacking haze for days betraying no hint of delays or maliaze. I must rephrase and elevate each phrase which conveys no cliches which sprays no haze or glaze, separating the grays from the greys.
So... if they are artificial in origin, they make the Doomsday Machine look like a rifle. These things are Von Neumann-ish, artificially intelligent, biological starships. Very cool.
Nice idea that they are lost 'ships' of lost civilisation. In Star Trek Online I was happy to get Undine (8472) ship for my Reman (telepatic species), I always like Tinman episode. It would be great to get Star-Jellies as an reconfigurable bio-starship.
They almost sound like biomechanoids kind of like Moya and Talon. Leviathans were half living entity half starship used as beasts of burden kind of how Moya was a prison transport with a restraining collar by the Peacekeepers.
My own head cannon was the progenitors, if a species could both foresee its own end and seed the galaxy it stans to reason that they could have put that genetic expertise to design the ancestors of these as their own ships. Ships that could think, grow, and reproduce. Aeons later they persist with their ancient origin long forgotten but the skills they were given being passed down each subsequent generation.
There was an episode where the crew got into something really big. It was facing the ship and mimicing the background star looks until you were in theire mouth thinking you were just cruising trough empty space. Once inside it started to disolve any matter into energy that it could feed on. I also had a fantasy idea about this sci-fi version where it was basicly the same setup, only to have its outer layer be mimicing background stars too, and had a small black hole pair in it that was spin around each other and she could change theire distance from one to another causing continous gravity waves emitting out from her. These waves were felt like a singing Sirene in human brains or AI circutry alike and drawn both crew and ship flight controls to go to that point of origin, where eventually if you're captured you get destroyed in the vicinity of the spinning black hole pair, feeding matter into it and also feeding the "organism" by the radiation given off by the disk around it. The origin story could be a scientific endevour of such black hole pair to be maintained and controled its distance to craete specific gravitational wave fluctuation for reasons of science mumbo jumbo, but the research station was infested by an organism that was known for its elusive camoflague nature that eventually killed off the scientist retaining some of theire most desired goals learning the stations purpouse and eventually growing around it creating the illusion and start luring in others while drifiting trough space.
So they showed something like this in the spin-off to Babylon 5, Crusade (not the best show and sadly it got cancelled but at least it’s not as bad as legend of the rangers) in that show they live in the deeper parts of hyperspace and it always got me asking the same question if they exist surely there must be other things maybe stuff with teeth and that’s kinda worrying when you think about it, and the same thing goes for Star Trek and Star Wars (they have space worms and space whales and now with solo space kraken) if there is space jellyfish floating around what else is out there in the deeper parts of space?
For some reason I'm reminded of the cosmic old one Ulyoth from the game Eternal Darkness. "The universe is a yawning chasm. Filled with emptiness, and the puerile meandering of sentients."
Lower Decks highlights a major series problem- that they will introduce a character, a planet or a species in an episode, deal with it in that episode, then never mention it again. Lots of things, such as this, were forgotten about rather than revisited. It was a problem that was slowly done away with after Roddenberry left the series(Moriarty's return, for example) but only to a small degree.
Jut like Q in his human form or Martia in Star Trek VI....we shall never know which is the true form of these creatures and thus there will always be a certain mystery about them and to me that makes them all the more awesome.
Star Jelly is such a fun name. Makes me think of that Courage the Cowardly Dog episode with the squids that make stars. Stay well out there everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊
Gomtuu. An artificial lifeform so lonely that it tried to commit suicide by supernova. Only to find a kindred spirit who was equally as isolated and unique. That episode also had one of the best soundtracks in TNG.
It could be a perfect plot device if they can incite them to take the shape of theire creator. And have them feel either resent, or joy depending what character you would want to have a good or a bad one.
Okayyyyy Did anyone else notice their behavior resembled the large whales in Earth’s oceans? Maybe even porpoises and dolphins? I’d say it would be a strong hint about their early evolution. I won’t rule out relatively recent biological manipulation. If you like old science fiction novels I suggest “The Silkie” by A. E. Van Vogt. I liked it.
Something that I feel you didn't quite address right... The one captured at Farpoint was specifically described as feeding off the planet's abundant geothermal energy. That is, in fact, why it was even possible for the locals to capture it, seeing as their technology seemed to be sort of infantile compared to Starfleet. While it is possible that it was also an infant at the time, and reached maturity during the mission to Farpoint by the Enterprise, that would not explain why it was alone when captured.
I always thought the Cnidarians were cool until I completed the recent Star Trek Online Summer Event and now I plan to give one to every character because they. are. TERRIFYINGLY. POWERFUL. And that's just with their canon abilities. It's lucky that they are so sweet and pacifistic because if they weren't, they'd make the Crystalline Entity look like a half-blind toothless targ.
It's been a long time since I've seen Encounter at Farpoint, but I don't remember the space jellyfish turning into giant flying saucers. If it didn't happen there, it's not canon. One thing that was never explained was how the Bandi, who seemed to be technologically well behind the Federation, actually managed to capture and hold one of these things.
Another question (but in the same spirit) : Is any life natural? In the Star Trek universe life is a little bit toooo common. Think of an universe where life is so rare like it is seemingly in our own real universe. Where just a few or even just one world developed an intelligent civilization. Those creatures at one point start travel the universe and realize to their disappointment, that they're apparently alone. Then they deside to spread life all over the galaxy or even the whole universe. So they start life on every rock possible. Therefore we went from an universe where life is almost nowhere to an universe where life is almost everywhere.
Warp capable, natural replicator/transporter abilities, the ability to consume a wide range of natural energy for powering and telephaty/empathy does sound like a good basis for a designed species of Starships. In Discovery one Federation ship was reportedly made "entirely from Holographic containment Walls". I wonder if those were a attempt are replicatin the star jellies?
May I ask a slightly off topic question? I watch a lot of your videos and it appears you’re pulling a lot of images from a video game. If so, what title and console is it? I’ve been out of gaming for years, but these graphics look so immersive. Would love to try this game, if that’s what I’m looking at here. Thanks.
Does the giant space amoeba encounted in The Immunity Syndrome count as a cosmozoan? 'Cause if so, I'd love to see a video on it. And if not, I'd still love to see a video on it.
I think I have a plausible theory that ties everything together here. The creature in lower decks is the original naturally-evolving species from which some form of alteration produced the Farpoint species. Both exist, and the natural ones do what the Lower Decks episode showed, while the Farpoint species do the planetary nursery thing.
How about the space stingray from Q-less? They mostly feel like another similar kind of thing. Can change form, can produce really large energetic effects, lives in space, looks like marine life, had Q involved. I’d be especially interested to know if there’s any beta stuff about them, since obviously it also only appeared one time otherwise.
Since they're telepathic and capable of the transmutation of matter and energy why not find one in ship form and have a telepathic crewmember beam aboard to explain the concept of a radio to it as well as the concept of speech via morse code. Let the universal translater do the rest.
Anyone know how to spell that cosmo-whatsit word he used? It is the first time I have heard a term for lifeforms like this (ones that dwell in the vacuum of space) and I want to look it up.
They’re definitely not the only instance of living ships, like tin-man. I wonder who was just making these things, also neutron stars would be huge hubs for these things
Welcome to Crazy Zephoms Living Ship Emporium. We're got living ships for every possible use. We've got living explorer ships, living day cruisers, living warships, and living freighters. Annoying locals on that planet you wanted to colonize? We've got living ships that can eat planets and barf them back up minus their prior inhabitants. You need a ship? We've got a living ship for you. So come on down we've also got free living balloons for the kids.
As a kid, I remember watching the tin-man episode and wishing Tin-Man would find the Star Jellies or the Gekli, so it wouldn't have to be so lonely and it could protect them.
@@weldonwin We've got leviathans, titans, caravans, and minivans. We've got everything new, used, and previously stolen. We've got ships that are sentient, non sentient, lobotomized and registered voters. You want it? We got it and we will do anything to take your money. Want it to be blue? Here are some blue tinted glasses. Want it to be bigger? Stand closer, BOOM, it's bigger. You bring your money and we will take it - that's the Crazy Zephom guarantee.
they could be natural... we certainly don't know how life would adapt and evolve in outer space. i would certainly assume that any life in space would be either extremely small microscopic... or extremely big like really extremely big. i wouldn't think that there'd be any life out in the vacuum of space to be human sized. as for being genetically engineered... its certainly possible. any civilization that's advanced enough certain could create such species perhaps. if they knew what they were doing of course.
"..... They are very hard to be observed..... - They are also very VERY big; - bright pink and glowing!...." In other words...., - you have to be blind....., to not notice them 😅😉.....
@@The_Str4nger Now imagine how seriously anyone would have taken TNG, after that performance, if Gene Roddenberry had got his way and Deana Troi had four breasts?
For a personal theory, their creators might be the masters of genetics, the preservers. Thus making them an incredibly ancient species to boot.
Or perhaps even what the preservers used to get around the galaxy. What better way to seed new life than to have a living ship with matter-energy conversion capabilities?
@@Restilia_ch a non living ship with matter energy conversion?
"First encountered at Farpoint..." I see what you did there
Ah Star Jellies. Where is my comically powered jellyfish catching net?
There's no reason that the birth of one on a ship would rule out the birth of them from the corpses of their dead on planets. It could easily be that (and I say this having not seen lower decks, yet) that the high energy core components of a starship may well provide the same requirements as the corpse of a parent(?) so a desperate lone creature may deposit it's seed in a starship rather than waiting to die and have no peers to use IT's corpse as a nursery. Just a thought.
A desperately lone creature depositing its seed in the nearest object...story of my life
I could explain these being natural, as there are animals which naturally will mimic other creatures (mimic octopus) to other creatures that will even camoflage to manmade materials and colors (Cuttlefish) you take these sea creatures, stick them in space, and give them natural matter altering properties and suddenly you have a species that not only mimic other vessels but in some ways can literally become them. Give it some intelligence and then you have a creature that not only mimics, but can also learn to use a different form for different purposes (like generating warp fields with the spaceship like shape)
basically what I'm saying is that these could be the very natural "Space Cuttlefish"
These creatures single-handedly hooked me into the world of sci-fi. Majestic, unfathomable things...
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge how absurd the notion is that a relatively low-tech civilization like the Bandi, could capture a star jelly, even an injured one, in the first place.
I think it was kinda starving already and landed on the planet to monch on the geothermal energy... I'd have to check that book again (haven't seen the show ep itself)
Honestly, we need only to suppose that it was in desperate need of energy (something the Bandi _could_ provide) and sense the desire for an exchange (energy for a base) but not understand the deceit in their minds that the energy would be just enough over life sustaining levels to serve the needs of the Bandi. The creature thus willingly would enter into the arrangement under the presumption that it would only need stay until the Bandi achieve their goals only to find itself trapped.
Never underestimate the power that is Groppler Zorn.
at least Picard never called em big stupid jellies....lolz [on TNG I mean]
It would be totally cool to travel in one of the Star-Jellies. It would probably feel like being a pet though, with it feeding you and cleaning up after you and taking you where it wants to go.
It wouldn't be the first time Starfleet explorers have felt like that, or otherwise been reminded that their humanoid-centric perspective on life need not apply everywhere.
where would all the shit and piss go?? see that's the question right there....
if you can't explain the bathrooms, it's not real life enough LMAO!!
but seriously it would feel weird to think "ya know it'd be nice to have a pizza about now" then suddenly you're holding take out from Pizza Hut or something....
number one: captain what are you doing with that pizza on the bridge?
captain: I was hungry, craving a pizza and this thing just appeared in my hands
Number one: egads man you don;t know where that thing's been!!!
captain: [munches pizza] mm this is pretty good, here have a slice
Navigator: nahh ahh, not eating imaginary food no sir no way! [staming hot instant noodle cup appears in his hands] GAAAAHHHHH!!
I like to think the one on lower decks was an accident. Somehow a live infant jelly got on board and it started feeding on the only energy it had access to, eventually able to reach maturation. It would also make sense for them to be artificial and still able to do this. How effective would it be for a race to be able to throw a fleet of ships at an enemy and have the battle be a near-total wipe leaving you only a few ships but by the time you get there the ships that survived were able to reproduce using local planet systems as fuel as well as any surviving enemy craft.
My favorite cosmozoan is definitely the Tin Man. I fell utterly in love with it the moment I saw it as a kid, and that episode is still one of my favorites.
They remind me of the Leviathans living spacecrafts of Farscape. They were engineered living spacecrafts that had they're own original way of space travel and they could reproduce
The question is if they where engineered from scratch or where they modified existing creatures.
"Riddle me this Picard!
Why is a raven...
Like a writing desk?" ~ Q
Because it can produce a few notes. The answer truly lies in the quill: Both can be penned, but they can never truly be captive.
I always liked the jellies maybe one day we will find out more about them in an episode? 😁👍🏻
Possibly in the very last episode of Star Trek : Picard?
Maybe they are the reason for the Turbo-lift-world-cavities in STD?
I love that you noticed it was compassionate, in that it helped others despite its captivity.
I was thinking of Riker and the bowl of apples.
I like the idea of it being a precursor to the Bioships used by the Undine. Ancient relics from before they were conquerers.
A true living sentient ship the star jellies my fave cosmozoan entity I like that cyan glowing one in lower decks that would be awesome to encounter.
The star-jelly mode of reproduction (the nursery one) reminds me of the Huragok "Engineers" from Halo, which are an artificial species. As does their benign, but apparently rather accommodating nature. The Huragok are also gelatinous and tentacled.
The idea that the space jellies could be an artificial species is definitely an interesting idea that I hadn't heard before. It seems plausible, though.
The other mode of reproduction still suggests a possibly artificial origin, since it means a species could grow and breed their own jellies using, say, a space station almost like a space-dock for organic ships (ideally designed to not be ripped up by the developing organism).
Wacko theory: they are distantly related to the Dominion Founders. While the Founders adapted to be more like humanoids, these developed further their inherent abilities.
To add to your theory - ST:DS9 S7E14 "Chimera" - changeling Laas was able to turn into some sort of a "spaceship" and move at impulse speed easily catching up to Danube-class roundabout. Among other of his skills there was also turning into "flame" meaning he had control over emitting electromagnetic radiation (at least light, maybe also heat). In the same episode he manages to get to another system which suggests that he may be able to get to warp speed?
Did they ever revisit the creature that the Enterprise-D gave "birth" 2. Would love to see what ever happened to that.
Q could have conjured the jellies up as a test for the Enterprise, or even bringing them from another galaxy.
after all, it's just a game to him. (at least at that point in the timeline)
That's...huh. A fair point, actually.
Ok wait that actually makes a lot of sense
Just finished reading the titan novel about the star jellies, perfect timing!
My headcanon is that cosmozoans are the reason why starships experience all sorts of technical problems in nebulae. They aren't simply massive clouds of dust and gas, but are the ruptured membranes of cosmozoans long since deceased.
a newborn of this species was encountered by the USS Rubidoux. It was reported by Captain Amina Ramsey that "while the exact classification of this space entity eludes us, we believe it to be peaceful, in search of a home." She later reminisced with Beckett Mariner that there was "nothing like a big, crazy alien to remind you why "space explorer" is such a great gig." (LD: "Much Ado About Boimler")
Probably the most chillax beings in the Star Trek universe
Would this be an old Iconian experiment perhaps? At least it seems to fit the pre-disaster Iconians of Star Trek Online.
From the bits that we're getting thanks to one now being a ship you can get in STO (The current event reward) they are sentient, now with some choosing to take on crews.
This was also, heavily, implied in the mission they're encountered in earlier on, just that their language is a color shift thing there.
Maybe they are time lord Tardis's as they both are alive, are both telepathic and can change their form and can both can convert energy to matter.
They remind me a lot of Tinman. Perhaps they're created by the same civilisation.
An excellent video on very rare creatures that very little is known about. I hope The federation and others keep it that way.
I remember seeing a video that suggested that these guys were the inspiration for the logo of the Union of Planets from _The Orville._
That just makes these lovable space jellies even more awesome in my eyes.. ☺️
As we appraise, they amaze and are worthy of praise in their displays of bouquets of ballets and the ways they graze on a blaze of solarays even strays lacking haze for days betraying no hint of delays or maliaze. I must rephrase and elevate each phrase which conveys no cliches which sprays no haze or glaze, separating the grays from the greys.
My favorite space-dwelling creature from Star Trek is the creature that was known as Gomtu
So... if they are artificial in origin, they make the Doomsday Machine look like a rifle. These things are Von Neumann-ish, artificially intelligent, biological starships. Very cool.
Some of the description sounds a bit like Moya.
It totally does. Also Tinman.
@@WobblesandBean, how so? I can’t think of any being in the Tinman movie I’m familiar with that is similar to the “Star Jellies” or a Leviathan.
@@ELCADAROSA sorry for the confusion he's referring to a ship in season 3 episode 20 of startrek tng they call tinman
@@wingedfish1175, thanks for the clarification.
Nice idea that they are lost 'ships' of lost civilisation.
In Star Trek Online I was happy to get Undine (8472) ship for my Reman (telepatic species), I always like Tinman episode. It would be great to get Star-Jellies as an reconfigurable bio-starship.
They almost sound like biomechanoids kind of like Moya and Talon. Leviathans were half living entity half starship used as beasts of burden kind of how Moya was a prison transport with a restraining collar by the Peacekeepers.
My own head cannon was the progenitors, if a species could both foresee its own end and seed the galaxy it stans to reason that they could have put that genetic expertise to design the ancestors of these as their own ships. Ships that could think, grow, and reproduce. Aeons later they persist with their ancient origin long forgotten but the skills they were given being passed down each subsequent generation.
maybe the macrovirus, the telepathic pitcher plant, the parasites from operation annihilate, or the sarlac from star wars.
Ooo yes the telepathic pitcher plant!!
There was an episode where the crew got into something really big. It was facing the ship and mimicing the background star looks until you were in theire mouth thinking you were just cruising trough empty space. Once inside it started to disolve any matter into energy that it could feed on.
I also had a fantasy idea about this sci-fi version where it was basicly the same setup, only to have its outer layer be mimicing background stars too, and had a small black hole pair in it that was spin around each other and she could change theire distance from one to another causing continous gravity waves emitting out from her. These waves were felt like a singing Sirene in human brains or AI circutry alike and drawn both crew and ship flight controls to go to that point of origin, where eventually if you're captured you get destroyed in the vicinity of the spinning black hole pair, feeding matter into it and also feeding the "organism" by the radiation given off by the disk around it.
The origin story could be a scientific endevour of such black hole pair to be maintained and controled its distance to craete specific gravitational wave fluctuation for reasons of science mumbo jumbo, but the research station was infested by an organism that was known for its elusive camoflague nature that eventually killed off the scientist retaining some of theire most desired goals learning the stations purpouse and eventually growing around it creating the illusion and start luring in others while drifiting trough space.
So they showed something like this in the spin-off to Babylon 5, Crusade (not the best show and sadly it got cancelled but at least it’s not as bad as legend of the rangers) in that show they live in the deeper parts of hyperspace and it always got me asking the same question if they exist surely there must be other things maybe stuff with teeth and that’s kinda worrying when you think about it, and the same thing goes for Star Trek and Star Wars (they have space worms and space whales and now with solo space kraken) if there is space jellyfish floating around what else is out there in the deeper parts of space?
Well obviously Space Jellies are eaten by Giant Star Turtles, just like the oceanic food chain on Earth. What did you think the Great A'tuin ate?
For some reason I'm reminded of the cosmic old one Ulyoth from the game Eternal Darkness.
"The universe is a yawning chasm. Filled with emptiness, and the puerile meandering of sentients."
Lower Decks highlights a major series problem- that they will introduce a character, a planet or a species in an episode, deal with it in that episode, then never mention it again. Lots of things, such as this, were forgotten about rather than revisited. It was a problem that was slowly done away with after Roddenberry left the series(Moriarty's return, for example) but only to a small degree.
Wouldn’t mind learning about the space whales in discovery
No
Yes
Yes
My favourite cosmozoan is the life form the Enterprise-D made. It's the only one of its kind, and we know absolutely nothing about it.
kinda makes you wonder if the jellyfish-like bodies are their true forms.
Jut like Q in his human form or Martia in Star Trek VI....we shall never know which is the true form of these creatures and thus there will always be a certain mystery about them and to me that makes them all the more awesome.
Star Jelly is such a fun name. Makes me think of that Courage the Cowardly Dog episode with the squids that make stars. Stay well out there everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊
I wonder if a space jelly is the Millennium Gate too because it looks a lot like Farpoint Station...
congrats on 100k! 😊
I'm sure the Star Jellies, Star Breads, and Star Peanutbutter creatures are all naturally delicious.
Followed by a dessert of star blancmange, star panna cotta or star crème brûlée
Where is my Star Nutella at?
Enjoy the Star Jams and Star Preserves as well. From Star Smuckers, so they has to be good.
I'm holding out for star marshmallow fluff.
Think Space Australia has Star Vegemite?
loving this series
Great joy and gratitude. Great joy and gratitude.
Gomtuu. An artificial lifeform so lonely that it tried to commit suicide by supernova. Only to find a kindred spirit who was equally as isolated and unique. That episode also had one of the best soundtracks in TNG.
We get quite a bit of in-depth information about Star Jellies in the Titan book Orion's Hounds, as well as many other Cosmozoans.
It could be a perfect plot device if they can incite them to take the shape of theire creator. And have them feel either resent, or joy depending what character you would want to have a good or a bad one.
In a novel (not canon, of course), they’re organic, but can change matter. Rumor has it that we’re gonna see them again in “Strange New Worlds”.
Okayyyyy
Did anyone else notice their behavior resembled the large whales in Earth’s oceans? Maybe even porpoises and dolphins? I’d say it would be a strong hint about their early evolution. I won’t rule out relatively recent biological manipulation.
If you like old science fiction novels I suggest “The Silkie” by A. E. Van Vogt. I liked it.
Something that I feel you didn't quite address right...
The one captured at Farpoint was specifically described as feeding off the planet's abundant geothermal energy. That is, in fact, why it was even possible for the locals to capture it, seeing as their technology seemed to be sort of infantile compared to Starfleet. While it is possible that it was also an infant at the time, and reached maturity during the mission to Farpoint by the Enterprise, that would not explain why it was alone when captured.
I always thought the Cnidarians were cool until I completed the recent Star Trek Online Summer Event and now I plan to give one to every character because they. are. TERRIFYINGLY. POWERFUL. And that's just with their canon abilities. It's lucky that they are so sweet and pacifistic because if they weren't, they'd make the Crystalline Entity look like a half-blind toothless targ.
It's been a long time since I've seen Encounter at Farpoint, but I don't remember the space jellyfish turning into giant flying saucers. If it didn't happen there, it's not canon. One thing that was never explained was how the Bandi, who seemed to be technologically well behind the Federation, actually managed to capture and hold one of these things.
Another question (but in the same spirit) :
Is any life natural?
In the Star Trek universe life is a little bit toooo common.
Think of an universe where life is so rare like it is seemingly in our own real universe.
Where just a few or even just one world developed an intelligent civilization.
Those creatures at one point start travel the universe and realize to their disappointment, that they're apparently alone.
Then they deside to spread life all over the galaxy or even the whole universe.
So they start life on every rock possible.
Therefore we went from an universe where life is almost nowhere to an universe where life is almost everywhere.
reminds me of the starwhale from that Doctor Who episode.
Congrats on 100K
100k subs. Gratz.
Warp capable, natural replicator/transporter abilities, the ability to consume a wide range of natural energy for powering and telephaty/empathy does sound like a good basis for a designed species of Starships.
In Discovery one Federation ship was reportedly made "entirely from Holographic containment Walls". I wonder if those were a attempt are replicatin the star jellies?
Commander Shepard: it’s nothing but a big stupid jellyfish.
That’s what he would’ve said
Commanderb shepard is racist against that creatures
May I ask a slightly off topic question? I watch a lot of your videos and it appears you’re pulling a lot of images from a video game. If so, what title and console is it? I’ve been out of gaming for years, but these graphics look so immersive. Would love to try this game, if that’s what I’m looking at here. Thanks.
Does the giant space amoeba encounted in The Immunity Syndrome count as a cosmozoan? 'Cause if so, I'd love to see a video on it. And if not, I'd still love to see a video on it.
Hi Rick question we’re is VOYAGER A B C D E ecetra plz du a vid on this topic and keep up the vids it brings a bright light to my day
I would like to see an update on some of your previous videos.
“This one would like to speak to you of the Enkindlers..”
I think I have a plausible theory that ties everything together here. The creature in lower decks is the original naturally-evolving species from which some form of alteration produced the Farpoint species. Both exist, and the natural ones do what the Lower Decks episode showed, while the Farpoint species do the planetary nursery thing.
Tng had a bad habit of showing these 1 off races you never hear of again.
Unfortunately, yes. One of the very few drawbacks of the series.
I’m probably going to butcher the spelling here, but I think a video on the gormagander (Harry Mudd’s space whale from DISCO) would be interesting.
While its these unique/rare moments that shine I would like to see a arc where they or another rare species are just studied.
Not Star Trek but I'd love to know more about the living ships of Farscape.
Space Flumphs... to those of the classic D&D demographic.
To anyone watching this in June/July 2022: Star Trek Online's Summer event is giving away one of these as a playable ship to all players.
Can't wait to fly it
Tinman of Star Trek aka Leviathans of Farscape!
"🤔 Since they can read minds, maybe they created inside ship corridors, because the Enterprise crew were expecting it? 😳" (-James)
How about the space stingray from Q-less? They mostly feel like another similar kind of thing. Can change form, can produce really large energetic effects, lives in space, looks like marine life, had Q involved. I’d be especially interested to know if there’s any beta stuff about them, since obviously it also only appeared one time otherwise.
I'm not saying it was Ionians
...but it's Iconians.
How about the embryonic lifeform from the DS9 episode Q-Less?
Since they're telepathic and capable of the transmutation of matter and energy why not find one in ship form and have a telepathic crewmember beam aboard to explain the concept of a radio to it as well as the concept of speech via morse code.
Let the universal translater do the rest.
Not long before they start drinking ginger ale and applying for federation membership
Lovely stuff.
Gamera! Gamera!
Gamera is really neat!
Gamera is filled with meat!
We've been eating Gamera!
Shell!
Teeth!
Eyes!
Flames!
Claws!
Breath!
Scales!
Fun!!
Anyone know how to spell that cosmo-whatsit word he used? It is the first time I have heard a term for lifeforms like this (ones that dwell in the vacuum of space) and I want to look it up.
This needs to be updated now that we got 1 in Lower Decks
A bit bigger than an Imperial Star Destroyer? Can the space-jelly fight one?
They’re definitely not the only instance of living ships, like tin-man. I wonder who was just making these things, also neutron stars would be huge hubs for these things
Welcome to Crazy Zephoms Living Ship Emporium. We're got living ships for every possible use. We've got living explorer ships, living day cruisers, living warships, and living freighters. Annoying locals on that planet you wanted to colonize? We've got living ships that can eat planets and barf them back up minus their prior inhabitants. You need a ship? We've got a living ship for you. So come on down we've also got free living balloons for the kids.
@@gallendugall8913 you sold me
@@gallendugall8913 You got any deals on a slightly used Leviathan?
As a kid, I remember watching the tin-man episode and wishing Tin-Man would find the Star Jellies or the Gekli, so it wouldn't have to be so lonely and it could protect them.
@@weldonwin We've got leviathans, titans, caravans, and minivans. We've got everything new, used, and previously stolen. We've got ships that are sentient, non sentient, lobotomized and registered voters. You want it? We got it and we will do anything to take your money. Want it to be blue? Here are some blue tinted glasses. Want it to be bigger? Stand closer, BOOM, it's bigger. You bring your money and we will take it - that's the Crazy Zephom guarantee.
I don't know if they count by my favorites are the tyranids
Wasn't there one in the episode of DS9 that Q was in?
Wonder if that's where the alien from 'Nope' was thought up from.
they could be natural... we certainly don't know how life would adapt and evolve in outer space. i would certainly assume that any life in space would be either extremely small microscopic... or extremely big like really extremely big. i wouldn't think that there'd be any life out in the vacuum of space to be human sized. as for being genetically engineered... its certainly possible. any civilization that's advanced enough certain could create such species perhaps. if they knew what they were doing of course.
Crystalline entity
The Titan novels (non-canon) deal with these and many others
"..... They are very hard to be observed..... - They are also very VERY big; - bright pink and glowing!...." In other words...., - you have to be blind....., to not notice them 😅😉.....
And I thought that the Tamarian Language was difficult.
Can you do a video on wakanda from marvel comics or the mcu
"Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain... Loooooooooooooooonliness..."
A feeling of great joy and gratitude! Great joy and gratitude from both of them.
@@The_Str4nger Now imagine how seriously anyone would have taken TNG, after that performance, if Gene Roddenberry had got his way and Deana Troi had four breasts?
@@weldonwin that sounds weirder than his red devil Spock design
@@The_Str4nger Why do you think DC Fontana had to talk him out of both of them?
I think it was made by Q for the test