BAJORANS: Cultural Index
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Bajor is a major focus of the series, Deep Space Nine and as such has a massive amount of lore, history and development behind it.
As such there is more here than I can put to video, so this one focuses primarily on the history of the people from canon.
Bajoran Earring: • The Bajoran Earring
Bajoran Religion: • The Bajoran Wormhole a...
This is the Cultural Index a series aimed at exploring various Science-Fiction species.
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Calling it an invasion is too simplistic, the Cardassins started by showing up and saying "Hi! We're here to help!" Only after they'd fully entrenched themselves did they show their true colors from what I understand in the lore.
Yes, you are correct. It's written about in the first book (titled "Day of the Vipers") in the "Terok Nor" trilogy of DS9 prequel novels.
Which is why a lot of Bajorans were so distrustful of the Federation, when they came and actually did want to help.
Federation is more interested in cultural exchanges than any material treasure, being a post-scarcity civilization.
Just like -Cardassian- I mean _Christopher_ Columbus
The "We're only here to help" story has a lot of parallels in Earth history. You might compare Bajor vs Cardassia to Poland vs USSR. What was interesting about DS 9 was that it felt more realistic than other Trek series. The politics was grittier, there was also a rough cosmopolitan feel to the station which contained a bar, casino and hologram center run by the Ferengi, a Klingon restaurant, Sisko couldn't function without his Klingon Raktajino, while O'Brien and Bashir drank beer in the pub after work like Brits and the Klingons were effectively space Mongols with Kayless as their Genghis Khan. Reminds me a lot of when I lived in Baku
"War crimes? How could there be war crimes when there hadn't been a war?"
I would love to hear more about Bajoran resistance, and how ancheint bajorans interacted with the prophets
Why would you want to listen to their lies, child? Come to the holy turth of the Pah Wraiths!
Your closing maybe why I feel more interest in the Bajorians than others, they are less mono-culture in presentation than a lot of other Star Trek species. The mono is still there compared to real world Earth but the effort is appreciated.
Well the Bajorians established their first United World Govt. 14,000 years before DS9; had interstellar travel nearly 900 years before DS9; and were under alien occupation for the 50 years prior to DS9.
Compared to Earth IRL we've had: 75 years de jure (0 years de facto) of a United World Govt.; 0 years of having tech to be able to have interstellar travel; and 0 years of alien occupation; its not too much of a shock their culture is more mono.
@@occultatumquaestio5226Yes your right, I was just thinking that a lot of sci-fi races presented (so not just Star Trek) are very singular in their culture representation (understandably, it is a TV show after all) but there is more effort than usual in the Bajorians in regards to Star Trek. Of course a lot of sci-fi shows present Earth as that also, even though there are hundreds of diverse cultures and ethnicities in real life.
If you've ever wanted to try Bajoran Hasperat the recipe they used on the show is fairly simple. A flour tortilla spread with cream cheese and topped with red and green peppers, then rolled and sliced. But since Hasperat was supposed to be spicy and specifically mentioned brining you can use pickled chilis or jalapenos for it.
It's actually not half bad.
Cream cheese spread onions peppers, and a mix of cabbage and shredded carrot that has been pickled in a spicy brine
I’ve made it. It’s like a flour tortilla, cream cheese, julien cut orange, red, yellow, and green peppers, pickled red onions, spinach, and Sriracha. It was ok, but I’ve never made it again. Sure there are other recipes out there. I saw one that used kim-chi.
It's kind of sad that we never really get to explore the different cultures seen in Star Trek in depth. Usually we only get superficial insights and most species are stereotyped with rare exceptions to the rule.
It's interesting that some of the most culture we've seen for some of these races has all been from the comedic Lower Decks.
Just started rewatching DS9, love it.
Greatest Trek Ever!
I just finished it and currently don't know what to watch..
the most vicious thing about the bajorins is that their gods unquestionably exist.
EDIT: their devils also exist.
Though it’s up to debate if they are simply aliens like the Q who were using them.
@@MandalorV7 It kind of depends how one defines a god. Or perhaps whether a god WANTS to be a god, or just a "regular" guy. Is it the act of creation? Or does a guy have to be omnipotent/omniscient/etc.? Or maybe just one of those things? Or CLOSE to one of those things? Does a god have to create the entire universe, or just a part of it?
Sorry if you don't want to discuss this... but theological discussion is interesting to me.
Not only did they exist, they talk to then. Albeit very confusingly.
Their devils are freaky
@@Swiftbow At the very least they are beings well behind the standard Trek races. Perhaps not to the level of Q but quite powerful nonetheless.
@@mackenziebeeney3764 the pah wraiths are no devils, child... they are firey firey love!
This would be a planet I wouldn’t mind living on, at least now; peaceful, quiet and beautiful nature.
Too bad xenophobia was at a rise after the occupation.
Greetings from Austria. I love the cultural index videos.
Greetings from Northern California! 🤠
Greetings from Mirror Universe England! _Also_ casual death threats that you're not entirely sure if they need be taken seriously or not.
👊👋
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated the hubby and I do a Mirror Universe Picard and Alien officer for Cosplay (I haven't named my character yet.🙃)
Greetings from Minnesota (sometimes Sigma Draconis, or Memory Alpha, or Rishii maze, or the Korpulu sector).
Agreed! Rick Here has amazing videos on the denizens of the universe!
Not to be confused with the Banjorans who are almost identical to the Bajorans except that they also play the banjo.
Hmmm, did they live in a van, down on the river?
This is the species the Caretaker impersonated in the 1st episode of Voyager. memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Banjo
@@pittland44 No that would be the Farlyngie.
Steve Martin is their kai
@@sorrendragon Oh, well of course. Who could forget them.
I've tended to like Bajor not just for the 'oooh hey funny nose alien near wormhole.' But because we get time to know their arcitecture, their weight of history.
Some aliens feel like a prefab trailer house rolled up with barely any furniture there. Technically servicable but very underwhelming.
Others are like Bajorans, a home that you got to know with flaws and quirks and furniture that got added, taken away, and rearranged over time. Giving a very lived in feel to it all.
The females also sneeze a lot during pregnancy!
And their pregnancy last 5 months instead of 9 months.
And are relatively painless and needing complete peace to actually give birth.
They definitely have a different biology
could that just be a minor form of illness?
as pregnancy weakens the immune system perhaps the sneezing is just the barjoran equivalent of the common cold
I would be interested in seeing a detailed overview of the Bajoran Occupation.
Ooooo. I concur. Good idea.
And what up Jensaarai! Huge fan, love your vids too! Keep em coming as long as you have the motivation!
Reflecting on the concept that Kira was a terrorist by the showrunners on the documentary, I can't agree. Although I am sure innocent, uninvolved Bajorans died in some of her missions, she wasn't specifically attacking Bajorans in order to create fear among them and use that fear to oust the Cardassians. Further, the Cardassian presence was entirely military, so no or too few civilian Cardassian targets were available to the Bajoran resistance, so most of their targets would be military targets. If most of their targets are military targets, then this is the line between a resistance and terrorism. A true resistance that isn't a terrorist movement does not create fear among their own population in order to resist the invading or occupying force. They primarily target military targets.
She was a terrorist to Cardassians and a Freedom Fighter to Bajorans. The two classifications coexist. But while it was a military occupation, it also had a colonization component so there were Cardassian civilians, not that the Bajorans cared whether the Cardassians wore a uniform or not.
Kira is one of my favorite ST characters, tough and sassy yet still feminine. Modern female hero writers could take a page out of the Kira Nerys book
One of my favorite races from Star Trek.
The Bajorans always seemed to me to be more human than the Star Trek humans. They argue about interpretations of faith, feud with each other, and have a complicated and messy history with long term reprucssions.
Its quite funny how other races get a lot of attention; but Bajorans really had no equal in on screen development. They really felt "real" with the complexity of faith, politics and internal disputes all interlaced with complexities of pre occupation an post occupation.
It made them a compelling addition to the lore.
Other races are a lot more interesting.
They were just different looking humans with some overgrown religion. without the religion Bajorans would have nothing noticable.
I wish we had more of this kind of development for other planets. We also got quite a bit about the Trill and Joined Trill
Finally! Bajorans
And in one of the other Quantum realities that Worf crossed over into, the Bajorans were a aggressive interstellar power after annexing Cardassia … they fired on the Enterprise.
Would've liked to see their ships. And what's their history, did they go conquest cause they had (sort of) interstellar travel first, or did the Cardassians bite off more than they could chew and the Bajorans not only kicked them off Bajor but managed to get so much Cardassian gear they could invade Cardassia.
They are probably zealots
@Jacob Sheehan And the president and supreme leader of Bajor is Kai Winn Adami...
@@casbot71 and they might even worship the pah wraiths
You should do some Indexs on some Stargate cultures.
2319 Cardassia goes after Bajor and strips it. Monsters Inc. 2319 means hostile contamination resulting in a purge of anything in contact with it. Fitting.
Yes, more about the Bajorans (Ancient or otherwise), please!
Best species in Star Trek! Behind the Klingons of course
I'll give you three others with their mottos:
Jolan Tru
Victory is Life
Resistance is Futile
One of the most dull species in Star Trek (Bajorans)
Hi Ric, I do enjoy your insightful look at the many races in Star Trek, thank you, I would have to chose PAKLED
I wish knew more about the Wormhole aliens
Knew....
What is this?
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@@jacara1981 he’s speaking as a prophet. He doesn’t understand linear time, you have to explain it. Maybe a game of baseball?
I would LOVE to see more on the Bajorans, such as ancient Bajorans and the resistance, please and thank you! Great video!
Great job Rick! May the prophets watch over you!
Hey Ric! Thanks for this fine summary. In case you'd like to make a part two about the ancient Bajorans, their casts would be a very interesting aspect I'd like to learn more about.
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Actually did find a fan-made hasperat recipe. Long story short: pickled pepper veggie wrap.
This video literally just made me look up a recipe myself haha
I’ve made it. It’s like a flour tortilla, cream cheese, julien cut orange, red, yellow, and green peppers, pickled red onions, spinach, and Sriracha. It was ok, but I’ve never made it again. Sure there are other recipes out there. I saw one that used kim-chi.
Yes please do A follow up to this video or do multi part on The Bajorans in the future. Until next time. Life Long and Prosier
Glad I am watching this since I am also watching DS9.
From a writing perspective, I get why they went with the whole "Cardassian occupation" storyline(s), but from an in-universe one, why don't any of these civilizations with FTL capabilities just use robots to mine asteroids? I mean, you don't need to enslave holograms or have AI-controlled robots/synthetics to accomplish this...
Space is much bigger than we think and there are potentially many worlds in unoccupied systems. For that matter, why does any race technically need to be at odds with another? I'm sure Cardassia could have picked other worlds to strip mine but it seemed more personal with the Bajorans. They wanted to break the Bajorans, likely having to do with the first contact theory. But subjugation is a pretty common theme in ST. The Remans and Kazon were other slave races.
There was certainly an element of Cardassian ego. Cardassia chose to resolve their problems by handing control to their military. As a consequence they applied military solutions to their problems. Rather than simply exploring and locating untapped resources, they found territory to conquer and a species to enslave.
@@3Rayfire While I can certainly see your position, the same holds true for other races/factions - where are the Federation asteroid mining operations? Why would they use repurposed EMHs to mine/clean things, when non-sentient robots should be much easier to manufacture...
The Pakled Deserve some Explaining in a future video
That was when I knew I was gonna love DS9 @6:41 The Alliance for Global Unity aka "The Circle".
I had liked it from the start. But that 3-episode story arc clinched it for me! The Cardasian empire were secretly behind the coup by the xenophobic radical political group that forced the Federation to disengage from Bajor.
Often reflective of real-world political fringe activities. A story with layers within layers; worthy of John le Carré with a bit of Joseph Conrad thrown in also.
DS9 was a great series and these insights into the Bajoran culture are pleasantly engaging👍🏾. Would you consider creating a cultural index about the Betazoid?
This was a very nice episode and the bajorans are one if my favorite people in Star Trek History. For me they seem to be an ancient race that made their way to a mostly peaceful society. I am not religious but i realy enjoyed how the Bajorans handled their belief. For me they are on my Star Trek Favorite top 5 of alien civilisations, as a teenage i even thought about an OP to get nose wrinkles like them... I had very open minded parents but thankfully they had good arguments against it, i still own a Bajoran earing and a fake nosepiece for my Hardfandoming Trekdays.😅
Would love more Bajor lore! 😊
I'd like to hear more about their history and religion, especially if it had the same schisms and colorful characters as we had on Earth.
Did they have schisms like the Protestant Reformation or the Great Schism?
Were some of their figures as corrupt, depraved, or insane as some of our Popes?
Did they put a dead guy on trial (Cadaver Synod)?
How did their caste system tie into their religion?
What was the relationship between religious and non-religious authority?
How did their caste system evolve over time?
Aren't there TEN orbs now with the recent discovery of the Orb of the Emissary found at the start of DS9's 7th season?
Bajorans used sub impulse Raider ships located on the Lunar V base during the Cardassian Occupation and in TNG Bajoran refugees BARELY made it out of their star system (Episode ( TNG: Ensign Ro, DS9: The Siege)
You didn't mention the caste system people were confined to until the Occupation rendered them obsolete
"From the moment we arrived on Bajor it was clear that we were the superior race, but they couldn't accept that. They wanted to be treated as equals, when they most certainly were not. Militarily, technologically, culturally - we were almost a century ahead of them in every way. We did not choose to be the superior race. Fate handed us that role and it would have been so much easier on everyone if the Bajorans had simply accepted their role. But no… day after day they clustered in their temples and prayed for deliverance and night after night they planted bombs outside of our homes. Pride… stubborn, unyielding pride. From the servant girl that cleaned my quarters, to the condemned man toiling in a labor camp, to the terrorist skulking through the hills of Dahkur Province… they all wore their pride like some… twisted badge of honor."--Gul Dukat.
I would love to see a cultural index on a stargate species, such as the Gou'uld, or the Wraith.
I never noticed they incorporated Cardassian foods.
It makes sense because in real life nations that have been invaded often adapt foods from the invading nation into their own culture.
Also, Bajoran space flight is interesting.
We too are looking into light sails as a means to approach light speed travel through the cosmos.
As it's just honestly the best most viable option in terms of energy efficiency.
Anyone else think that Jumja Sticks were a popsicle-like food until you realized that all of the scenes with them in it were in above freezing temps. and then realized they were more like lollipops. No? Just me?
I could have sworn that Bajor had elections mid series (thus ending the provisional government), but I'm having trouble finding the details.
It was around season 2 or 3 I think when Shakaar (Kira's commander in the Resistance) was elected as First Minister and at that point they stopped referring to it as "provisional"
Honestly, my favorite faction
Could you do Cultural Index videos on the races of Babylon 5?
Please try out Travellers' directions of the Galaxy: Spinward - Antispinward and Rim and Core. :)
Thanks Rick!
I'd love to see it expanded I nerd out for kirs5 ohp
In addition to Ancient Bajorans, as it's curious why they didn't maintain advancement, perhaps something on what happened to the Bajoran colonies. Did they die out? Were they taken by the Cardassians too? Etc etc.
I love the Bajoran culture.
Hey hey! Congrats on 100k!
I love the fact you mentioned the other races are not as revealed as Bajorans in the show. So they can be as complex and varied as the Bajoran people.
when you were discussing food and wine, I noticed how you left out spring wine which was a very popular drink. Also while sports are not a big essential item, they are a strong part of a peoples culture and I think that spring ball deserves some mention
A video on ancient Bajor would be really cool, yes.
First off..? Splendid work! It could not have been easy condensing as deep a culture as Bajor given time constraints.
Perhaps as a part two..? A look at both their Gods... And The Pah-Wraiths, their "Devils" for lack of a better term..
Just a thought.
This is what we have all been waiting for this is what its all about!!!
The Bajorans are so fascinating.
Yes
so they're ike space Tibet
Thanks this will help a fanfic story I've been writing!
i like it 👍🏼
Very decent ceremonies
Yes please, more about Before!
*Bejor
Interesting 👍.
If not for the federation, the bajorans never would had been free of cardassia cuz the bajoran resistance was barely a flea bite to the cardassians. The federation literally did everything while the bajorans lied and claimed victory.
I was actually disappointed when you decided to end it, culturarily I like them they remind me of us , humans, they are a very rich culture within the fiction.
Out of all alien spices, homeworld and culture. Bajoran my favourite. I don’t know it feels magical away to me
ancient Bajor would be a very nice topic to cover :)
Bajorans are some of the biggest bad-asses in the Star Trek galaxy, I mean, just look at how Shaxs went out in Lower Decks
In what?
The ONLY badass Bajoran, others were whiney religious zealot kids.
@@cmdrtianyilin8107 Well we didn't really spend much time with the terrorists who made the Cardassians run home with their scales in a tizzle. Except Kira who was pretty consistently badass.
@@3Rayfire she was more of an ISIS member than badass.
If you mentioned about Ro Laren, then yes, you would be correct, but Kira was not "Badass." She was religious extremist under federation umbrella.
Throughout the entire Star Trek world building, the only badass species was the Borg and Terrans.
@@cmdrtianyilin8107 What? Kira wasn't a religious extremist, she was a guerilla fighter who just happened to be a religious adherent. When the Cardassians needed training to fight the Dominion they sent Kira to train them. I don't see how To qualifies, all she did was run off and join Starfleet, then leave Starfleet to join the Maquis.
Other than that you have interesting metrics for bad ass.
Hey Rick you watchin Enterprise
Maybe I am getting my directions wrong, but isn't Bajor on the 'West' side of Federation space? Love the videos as always.
According to all maps I have seen yes!
3:57 “Pellagra?” Sounds like there might not be much fresh fruit there….
Im not even really a Star Trek fan. I just really like Lore Channels
2:30 About the Bayoran Lightship:
Booker mentioned "Tachyon Solar Sail" as a FTL option. And the Ligthship managed warp by catching tachyons.
So their FTL method might still be avalible as a Dilithium free option post burn. Granted he did mention it was "slow as shit", so it was propably not the fastest alternative.
Discovery writers *really* knew the lore it seems :D
3:15 Several additional bodies (on top of hte main planet 11) were inhbatable:
The moon Jerrado: memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Jeraddo
Bajor 8: memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Bajor_VIII
Not being wiped out by a single planetary appocalypse is a main driver to become Interstellar/FTL capable. Since they already had several planets, they was less reason for them to go elsewhere.
And then there was the whole part about the Celestial temple being only in this System.
5:46 Wait a second:
- A numbered list of republics
- Highly cultured
- Was occupied by space nazis
- well known for their resistance movement, called "the Marquis"
- joined a local alliance of a lot of systems pretty much they day it became free again
- well known for their food and clothing
Is Bajor Space France?
They've always felt to me like Star Trek's version of Naboo in Star Wars...so whatever that would be
I've got a video idea for you. Why did a minefield stop the dominion at all?
Give it some thought. The speed of replication, the depth of the field, the speed of the swarm mines vs the amount of ships.
I always considered Hasperat more like a Stromboli.
I’ve made it. It’s like a flour tortilla, cream cheese, julien cut orange, red, yellow, and green peppers, pickled red onions, spinach, and Sriracha. It was ok, but I’ve never made it again. Sure there are other recipes out there. I saw one that used kim-chi.
Can you do a video on wakanda from the comics or the mcu
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Epic work keep it up respect.
Theoricaly Bajor could be classified as a Theocracy?
Only when the Kai was first minister, and that didn't last long.
Awesome video.
Bajoran linguistic conventions are clearly inspired by the progression of Chinese from Classical to Modern
Could do please, of Babylon 5 - Minbari: Cultural Index
Great video
Isn’t Bajor in the west of the galaxy
there is no west in space,
northwest i think
@@rudiruttger you know what I mean, to the left of centre
@@cocofilms5524 yeah, diffinitly not in the east though
@@robertoleary5470 ye
I wanna see a cultural Index on the Klingon Empire.
Pretty sure he has one from years ago.
@@highlordlaughterofcanada8685 It could use an update with all the lore from Discovery season 1&2.
@@The_Keeper Personally I could do without the Discovery lore, but to each their own.
I would like to see more about the Bajoran religion. The Bajoran church, it's leaders and religious practice.
For the next race, I would like to see the Pakled.
More yes
What about their biology? Different and similar types of organs? Types of blood? Lifespans? Mating with other species? What about their economy? The origin of the earrings? You have a lot to cover in the next video.
Does anyone else out there think it's humorous that Kira knows EVERY remaining Bajoran?! I THINK I recall ONE time when she said she didn't know a Bajoran that was mentioned. Are there only like...50 Bajoran people left? Discuss... -Vic
Ahh the Bajorans. A species that brought us one of the most egalitarian people ever in Star Trek, Bareil Antos. And the most hated villain in DS9, Adami Winn.
Kai Winn: my child, so much flavor and u decide to be salty, may the prophets forgive you..
🤣🤣
@@ikp4success Kira Nerys: Im sorry, what was that you said eminence? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the Prophets picking me over you as their vessel.
Rick, here's something for you to chew on. Who are the Skagarans? And, was there ever a follow up to the Humans on the formal Skagaran colony. I've heard it called the North Star colony, but is that really canon?
One of these cultural index videos that I'd love to see is one about The Klingons
Yes!
He already did one. ua-cam.com/video/JOIZAixfwjs/v-deo.html
If you go on his channel and go to the cultural index playlist you’ll find it, and many more as well
I would like to see a cultural index of the Zentradi.
I know you normally do Star Trek and such but could you do a a cultural index on Transformers
the contemporary Bajoran script may be a syllabary - the sample text you showed is more letters than most alphabets, but not nearly enough to be logographic.
west side!
I love their culture nd production design, very carefully made and developed. And their women are so beautiful
Peldor just gets more and more commercial every year