Concerning Keeps: Can one decide for the normal shipping instead of the bifrost delivery service? Cause I can't afford a rainbow bridge slamming into my yard 🤪
Question, would the scarlet witch be considered a god like being since it is stated that there is a whole chapter devoted to her in the dark hold, has powers that exceed the Sorcerer supreme, and peeks of her having a temple of her to worship in, not to mention it was stated she was never born but forged. She is one of the most powerful being trending so would it make sense to consider her a god?
Shang-Chi also introduced Ta Lo, the realm of the Chinese gods in the comics (like Asgard or Olympus). Although we only saw the mortals who lived there (known as the Qilin Riders in the comics).
I'm sure the eternals being folded into local lores can be explained by them having relationships with the pantheons. They did mention thor as a kid in the Eternals right?
The comics just had them coexisting in Ancient Greece & sometimes being confused for one another. The Olympians lived on Mount Olympus & the Olympian Eternals lived in Greece's Pindus Mountains.
definition of god + new gods 2:37 Norse pantheon 3:50 Egyptian and Wakanda pantheon 5:58 Greek pantheon 7:57 Celestials 8:50 Dormammu 11:09 death, entropy, infinity, eterniy10:48 minor/speculative 11:07 Christian god 12:08 the spirit of vengeance 12:22 Hive: founder of hydra 12:40 Voodoo pantheon 12:45 the watcher 13:45 supposed gods 14:05 he who remains 14:16
I don’t get why the people like the living tribunal infinity and eternity are speculative and minor they are def stronger then everyone else and I’m pretty sure that the top the strongest people in marvel are the one above all the beyonders then the living tribual
I don't think you mentioned this, but the Jabari tribe does worship Hanuman, the Hindu Monkey God as seen when T'Challa accepts M'Baku's challenge to the throne. Timestamp is 24:32 of Black Panther. An interesting theory about this that my friend brought up to me goes like this: In Hindu Myth's Ramayana, the warrior Lakshmana is injured in a battle and needs saving. To save him, Hanuman is told to bring a special herb with magical healing properties that grows on a mountain. Not knowing which herb to pick, Hanuman brings the entire mountain with him so that someone who knows the herb can take it themselves. It's never really mentioned where he put the mountain down and my friend brought up the theory that he could've put it down in Wakanda before the meteorite struck, making the herb a prototype Heart-shaped herb and giving a reason why the Jabari worship him. Idk how possible it is, I just thought it was cool. Great Video as Always!
This is indeed very cool... damn. But, sidenote here, the "Glory to Hanuman" phrase was infact improvised by the actor playing M'Baku, as he worships Hanuman in real life. So I don't think the lore matters that much.
Actually, there are strong migratory links between Cameroon and India, the Tamil Nadu language actually has roots in Northern Cameroon's Madara people. This can be seen through alot of Asian (especially East Asian cultures); there's a reason why most deities were painted black, even Buddha. This can also be seen with naming cultures, most West African societies pre-colonialization put family name first, then personal name. This is very prevalent in Japan, China and South Korea even today. In my birth certificate that's how my name's were arranged too, and I was birn in the 90's so, it's a newly fading culture in West Africa. When I was in LA, I had a funny experience with a korean Uber driver who kept passing me because he was looking for an Asian client based on my name sounding Korean. We laughed about it afterwards but I didn't realize then how profound that experience was and how telling it was. So, the more appropriate phrasing is, Indians are worshiping African deities, not the other way around.
@@sincerelyeugene6638 well that would be a good research subject. The old tamil language you mentioned is told to be formed from like 400 BC or something.
@@sincerelyeugene6638 bruv you are reaching, stop black washing history, it wasn't cool when europeans were trying whitewash everything now it isn't cool to blackwash it
While their relationship with Bast is a bit different from Mark's connection to Konshu their functionality is similar enough to where the black panther can be classified as an avatar to an Egyptian god. The main difference being that the black panther's power comes from a material substance rather than pure mysticism and the fact that Bast doesn't communicate directly with her avatar, preferring to relay messages through visions while letting her avatar have a great deal of autonomy.
It's just not the same. Avatars are imbued with the power of their god and have a direct connection whereas the black panther is merely physically enhanced by an herb and wears a fancy suit.
@@codybaggett5329 I could see a god of cats being pretty laissez-faire with her avatar. "You do those herbs, I'm gonna take a nap. Can't be expecting to hear from me all the time."
@@codybaggett5329 right and wrong.......because who ever becomes black panther has to travel to the realm of bast (ancestral plane) to complete the transformation so its possible that they gain some of bast powers while there
While the names of Greek gods and the names of the Eternals present an issue withing the story of the MCU there are some workarounds that can be used. One in particular that comes to mind id that the real Zues was so impressed by Thena and Phastos that he named some of his children after them while the Eternals were chilling in ancient Greece.
You could also spin it with one joke in the new Thor movie, just have Zeus make a quip about god's having a sense of humor, even Celestials naming some of their dolls after his children.
@@efanferdiantowibowo9610 They established the Eternals are semisentient robots that protect planets/Celestial eggs until they hatch and then the protectors are reset and sent out to protect other planets/eggs. The eternals have had countless identities since the begining of time, their names being riffs on existing dieties makes more sense than they themselves being the source of god claims. It is also more easily explained away with little effort as a joke.
I love having the real world Gods in the mcu its way way way more interesting than the celestials or Galactus any of the other cosmic entities in marvel to me. The only exception so far Dormammu
Galactus is considered a god but I just compare him to the Gods of Destruction in Dragon Ball Super since Galactus eats planets which is his role to balance creation
Dude is right,for me it's about being interesting not being powerful, the stronger a cosmic entity get,the less interesting it becomes e.g the living tribunal
I think Thor’s line in the original movie was something to the affect of “where I come from magic and science are one and the same” which may imply that the explanation for magic as a function in the MCU is ultimately logical and somehow scientific more so than that the gods are not magical gods.
I mean, with the Ancient One's explanation to Strange about magic and what we know so far, magic spells in the MCU are basically "programs to access and borrow power from other entities/realms". It does fall under science to a point, just not human science
This may be a repeated saying, but i will say it. Science and technology that is so advanced may as well be magic. Just as magic that is greatly understood and known becomes a science
JESUS KNOCKS ON YOUR HEART AND LONGS FOR YOU TO ANSWER! HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE PERISH INTO HELL. GOD LOVES YOU SO HE GIVES YOU FREE WILL AND A CHOICE TO ACCEPT HIM OR REJECT HIM. TO LOVE HIM OR TO LOVE SIN/THIS WORLD. CALL UPON JESUS & ASK HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS! SURRENDER YOUR WILL & YOUR LIFE TO HIM & HE WILL GIVE YOU ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN! PICTURE YOUR BEST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HEAVEN! NOW PICTURE YOUR WORST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HELL! HE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT SO IF YOU REJECT HIM YOU WILL BE SEPARATED FROM HIM & HIS BLESSINGS (LOVE, PEACE, JOY, HOPE, REST, ETC). IN HELL YOU WILL BE ALONE WITHOUT GOD OR PEOPLE... YOU WILL BE HOPELESS, IN DESPAIR & AGONY FOREVER! GOD'S STANDARD FOR HEAVEN IS PERFECTION AND ONLY JESUS (THE SON OF GOD/GOD IN THE FLESH) LIVED THAT PERFECT LIFE! HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE & TOOK THE WRATH OF THE FATHER ON THE CROSS FOR YOUR SINS! GOD IS JUST SO HE MUST PUNISH SIN & HE IS HOLY SO NO SIN CAN ENTER HIS KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. IF YOU ARE IN CHRIST ON JUDGEMENT DAY GOD WILL SEE YOU AS HIS PERFECT SON (SINLESS SINCE YOUR SINS ARE COVERED BY JESUS' OFFERING). YOU CAN ALSO CHOOSE TO REJECT JESUS' GIFT/SACRIFICE & PAY FOR YOUR OWN SIN WITH DEATH (HELL) BUT THAT SEEMS PRETTY FOOLISH! GOD SEES & HEARS EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID & DONE. YOU WONT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH HIM & YOU CANT DEFEND ANY OF YOUR SINS TO HIM. YOU'RE NOT A GOOD PERSON, I'M NOT A GOOD PERSON... ONLY GOD IS GOOD! WE'RE ALL GUILTY WITHOUT ACCEPTING JESUS' SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS! MUHAMMAD DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, BUDDHA DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, NO PASTOR/NO PRIEST/NO SAINT/NO ANCESTOR DIED FOR YOUR SINS, MARY DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, NO IDOLS OR FALSE gods DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO MUSICIAN OR CELEBRITY DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO INFLUENCER OR UA-cam STAR DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO SCIENTIST OR POLITICIAN DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ATHLETE OR ACTOR DIED FOR YOUR SINS! STOP WORSHIPING THESE PEOPLE! JESUS CHRIST ALONE DIED FOR YOUR SINS & WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE GRAVE! HE IS ALIVE & COMING BACK VERY SOON WITH JUDGEMENT (THESE ARE END TIMES)! PREPARE YOURSELVES, TURN FROM SIN & RUN TO JESUS! HE KNOWS YOUR PAIN & TROUBLES, HE WANTS TO HEAL & RESTORE YOU! TALK TO HIM LIKE A BEST FRIEND! ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU & HELP YOU TO BELIEVE IF YOU DOUBT! DON'T WAIT TO CRY OUT! NO ONE IS PROMISED TOMORROW! HE LONGS FOR YOU TO INVITE HIM IN, HE LOVES YOU MORE THAN ANY PERSON EVER COULD, HE CREATED YOU! Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6 "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33 “For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23
I love the idea of Kang, or more accurately, a regular dude, becoming so powerful he dwarfs every god (or godlike) creature in the MCU, who was basically born into that power.
@@KRYMauL Personally they are just starting to introduce higher power beings like the Celestials, so I doubt The One Above All will be introduced anytime soon.
Nice Video. I want to clarify something, Kang doesn't do everything he wants. For example, he can't interfere a cosmic being destroying a planet (unless he destroys the universe itself), For sure he knows that's gonna happen, and if it doesn't happen he can reset the timeline, but just because he wants it he can't kill a Celestial with normal ways unless he sends them to Alioth with the rest of the universe. TVA Agents are still basic humans and they struggle with likes of Loki and Sylvie, so they have literally zero chance against even people like Hela & Surtur or Scarlet Witch, let alone cosmic beings like Celestials & Dormammu. They are also pretty much tech guys, so they probably can't also interfere other dimensions too, like Afterlife dimensions or God dimensions such as the place where Egyptian Gods live (Khonsu etc). We know every universe has its set of dimensions, we saw Alternate Dark dimension, Ancestral Plane etc in What If series...., but anything happened in main universe/ main dimensions' timeline, they can control it for sure.
He Who remains could have done deals with the Celestials to follow his plan, at the end of the day there's no much a Celestial do, they create galaxies and new life, they don't apparently interfere with life more than to give life to a Celestial
@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu He did, my point is, he isn't actually leading the timeline, he just knows everything inside the timeline. He is not "Above everything". He can't delete the evil / bad things from universe. He can't just erase an event from the timeline just because he wants it. He knows Eternals will stop Tiamut. Because if they don't Kang will never born. But can he really interfere and stop the birth of Tiamut unless he prune the universe? No he can't. He knows Strange will stop Dormammu. But if he don't. He has no chance except prune that timeline.
@@sozkskslssss1018 OK maybe he isn't above everything but he controls the timeline, he was the winner of a Timeline war were he used Alioth to erase all other timelines aside from the sacred one, which in theory erased all variant versions of Arishem for example up to that point. It's posible that he chose a Timeline were the events happen in a way that don't create trouble with the celestials. We technically don't know if the Sacred timeline is HWR original timelime, after all as seen in Endgame you don't need your past self to exist for you to exist, cause if the past changes It's no longer your past but an alternative timeline, so HWR doesn't need Kang to be born, actually since Kang started the Multiversal War it will make sense for HWR to chose a timeline where he isn't born. Also the control of HWR can explain why Dr strange plan in Infinity War worked, Thanos Snap was random so there was a big chance of Tony dying and being unable to develop timetravel to get the IS in the past, but If Kang erases all posible outcomes except the one where Strange visión works it make some sense that it happens
Well, He Who Remains allowed those events to happen during Loki. The TVA never really had any other issues pruning anyone else to our knowledge (at least from what I remember). Also, if he REALLY wanted to kill a single Celestial, he could easily do that with Alioth. As for controlling the events of the timeline, or confronting characters like Strange, Wanda, etc. he can easily do that as well by changing events far in the past by using the TVA (as he knows every event throughout history past, present, and future) He was only ever confronted by Loki and Sylvie because he allowed it to happen.
this is a nice compendium. it would have been cool to include chinese deities of the MCU as well, like the "dweller-in-darkness" and the "great protector" dragon. i think in terms of mythology, they are worshiped/legendized in the same way as all the other beings in this video.
I love the Science Fiction stories of the Infinity Arc in the first three phrases,but this Mystical/Supernatural Arc in Phases four and Five are going to be fascinating to watch
Runaways is dubious MCU canonicity, but since you mentioned Cloak and Dagger, I might as well mention that the Gibborim should probably count as gods at least insofar as the definition that theyre worshipped
Cloak and dagger has several ties to luke cage, agent carter, iron fist, and tony stark so yeah if daredevil is cannon it brings basically every show with it
The Black Panther Goddess Bast is based off the Bastet the kemetic goddess of cats and warfare and fertility . And in civil war, the Goddess Sekhmet is mentioned, she is also a kemetic Goddess of healing, destruction and war. Also I heard that the show moon knight shows Khonsu the kemetic God of the moon, time and healing.
Strange supreme having absorbed so many demons and gods should be considered a god in my opinion. Also missed Izel and sarge from agents of shield. Actually dweller in darkness too.
I’m loving how Marvel is explaining all the different Pantheons of gods within the MCU. It surprisingly fits quite well among the foundations of the MCU. I can’t wait to see Gorr the God Butcher in Thor Love and Thunder and I also can’t wait to see the introduction of the Greek Pantheon of Gods and Demi gods like Zeus and Hercules. I’ve heard rumors that Russel Crowe is playing Zeus. If that’s the true then we’re going to be in for a treat! On a side note, I’d love to see Knull the god of the Symbiotes and Exolons in all of his glory with his Necrosword. With that being said, because Sony has the film rights to Venom, I don’t particularly see Marvel showcasing Knull within the MCU unless they plan on doing a serious and full blown crossover with Venom. Lastly, I thought it was a nice touch and a very cool detail that when the Eternals stopped Tiamut’s birthing, he was turned into stone, more specifically marble. The reason as to why I find that so cool is because there are hundreds of mountains, mountain ranges, and massive standing rocks and boulders that look strikingly like the giants of ancient times which are called the Titans. There’s even a group of people who believe that these Titans were in fact flesh and blood and alive at one point in time before they were turned to stone. So it’s very cool to see Marvel pulling from all sorts of mythology from around the world.
JESUS KNOCKS ON YOUR HEART AND LONGS FOR YOU TO ANSWER! HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE PERISH INTO HELL. GOD LOVES YOU SO HE GIVES YOU FREE WILL AND A CHOICE TO ACCEPT HIM OR REJECT HIM. TO LOVE HIM OR TO LOVE SIN/THIS WORLD. CALL UPON JESUS & ASK HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS! SURRENDER YOUR WILL & YOUR LIFE TO HIM & HE WILL GIVE YOU ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN! PICTURE YOUR BEST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HEAVEN! NOW PICTURE YOUR WORST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HELL! HE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT SO IF YOU REJECT HIM YOU WILL BE SEPARATED FROM HIM & HIS BLESSINGS (LOVE, PEACE, JOY, HOPE, REST, ETC). IN HELL YOU WILL BE ALONE WITHOUT GOD OR PEOPLE... YOU WILL BE HOPELESS, IN DESPAIR & AGONY FOREVER! GOD'S STANDARD FOR HEAVEN IS PERFECTION AND ONLY JESUS (THE SON OF GOD/GOD IN THE FLESH) LIVED THAT PERFECT LIFE! HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE & TOOK THE WRATH OF THE FATHER ON THE CROSS FOR YOUR SINS! GOD IS JUST SO HE MUST PUNISH SIN & HE IS HOLY SO NO SIN CAN ENTER HIS KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. IF YOU ARE IN CHRIST ON JUDGEMENT DAY GOD WILL SEE YOU AS HIS PERFECT SON (SINLESS SINCE YOUR SINS ARE COVERED BY JESUS' OFFERING). YOU CAN ALSO CHOOSE TO REJECT JESUS' GIFT/SACRIFICE & PAY FOR YOUR OWN SIN WITH DEATH (HELL) BUT THAT SEEMS PRETTY FOOLISH! GOD SEES & HEARS EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID & DONE. YOU WONT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH HIM & YOU CANT DEFEND ANY OF YOUR SINS TO HIM. YOU'RE NOT A GOOD PERSON, I'M NOT A GOOD PERSON... ONLY GOD IS GOOD! WE'RE ALL GUILTY WITHOUT ACCEPTING JESUS' SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS! MUHAMMAD DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, BUDDHA DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, NO PASTOR/NO PRIEST/NO SAINT/NO ANCESTOR DIED FOR YOUR SINS, MARY DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, NO IDOLS OR FALSE gods DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO MUSICIAN OR CELEBRITY DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO INFLUENCER OR UA-cam STAR DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO SCIENTIST OR POLITICIAN DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ATHLETE OR ACTOR DIED FOR YOUR SINS! STOP WORSHIPING THESE PEOPLE! JESUS CHRIST ALONE DIED FOR YOUR SINS & WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE GRAVE! HE IS ALIVE & COMING BACK VERY SOON WITH JUDGEMENT (THESE ARE END TIMES)! PREPARE YOURSELVES, TURN FROM SIN & RUN TO JESUS! HE KNOWS YOUR PAIN & TROUBLES, HE WANTS TO HEAL & RESTORE YOU! TALK TO HIM LIKE A BEST FRIEND! ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU & HELP YOU TO BELIEVE IF YOU DOUBT! DON'T WAIT TO CRY OUT! NO ONE IS PROMISED TOMORROW! HE LONGS FOR YOU TO INVITE HIM IN, HE LOVES YOU MORE THAN ANY PERSON EVER COULD, HE CREATED YOU! Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6 "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33 “For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23
Not sure we can trust much of the info from the opening crawl in Eternals. A lot of the stuff it said was proven wrong through the movie and most of it was likely just Celestial propaganda.
Big fan of the Percy Jackson Universe so I grew up loving the Greek, Egyptian, Norse, and Roman Gods, I’m reading the Korean Mythology one now. Being a fan of Marvel as well makes this so exciting👀👀❕
I hope we see some Celtic deities in the MCU Finn McCool would be perfect. Also the Mayan deities and Inuit deities would be great (especially if we get snowguard)
I read that there are more Marvel deity characters based on actual deities, for example, Celtic/Irish, Slavic, African, Native American, Finnish, Inuit, Philippine, Hindu, Aztec, Maya, Inca, Aboriginal, Mesopotamian, Japanese, Chinese and Polynesian. I was hoping to get a mention for a few of them
Well in the comics it did say that they had an agreement the Eternals would represent the greek gods since they were so similar. So realistically there is no problem its accurate
@@keemkeem3820 It’s completely stupid and convoluted as hell. I’m sorry, but having a bunch of aliens that all just happen to super closely resemble the local pantheon of gods, just happen to land in the same area that said gods operate, then making an agreement to represent and substitute for each other, is just silly and needlessly complicated. You’d have to be completely blinded by comic bias, to try and convince anyone that that’s good story telling. What most likely happened, is one writer wrote the Greek gods as being actual godly beings. Then another writer tried to make up an alien species as the origin of the greek gods. Then some other poor writer got stuck with the unfortunate task of trying to make both of these things work within the same setting. The MCU had the chance to avoid this mess. All they had to do was pick either Eternals or Olympians. Not both.
10:56 Additionally, these same images appear on the walls of the Temple Vault on Morag when Star-Lord steals the Orb. Anyway, this is a very interesting topic, and will most likely need an update after Thor: Love and Thunder.
I’m pretty sure Thena is the same Athena in Greek mythology, she probably met with Zeus on earth when he visited some time and sprite just lied about their origin
There's a saying that either all gods are real or none of them are, in Marvel they're all real. There was a show called Dead Like Me that explained how every god can exist, it was a quirky show about the daily routine of being a Grim Reaper, needing a day job to pay the rent and whatnot.
i like to think there is an entity above everything, maybe two. Everything working like an mlm, you get stuff and give to your followers, and above you there is someone, and above them, like a family tree, a magic ecosystem. So, eldrich get from the above one(s, primordials from the eldrich, titans from prim, Gods from titan, gods from GODS, angels from gods, fairies from angel, human and such from whatever And they all tryna slap each other, until a higher rank steps up and sends them to dunce corner So, what is the explaination in the show, am so curious, : 3
@@ELbabotas1 Every god of every religion is real in the MCU except there's a character known as The One Above All who's technically the God of Marvel, his counterpart is The One Below All, they rank higher than the religious gods, Thor, Zeus, the Beyonders, Watchers, Eternity, Death etc.
I remeber the Russo brothers saying in the first Thor movie was that they wanted it a tiny bit more grounded just including alien type creatures but after that the Russis said it was retconned and that he was just bringing Loki down a size coz he at that time his whole identity was that of being a god and from there on out he was actually a god and that came from the Russos
It's a shame you couldn't mention Mephisto but the bait and switch in WandaVision. Also it's a shame Lady Death didn't make it into the films as the true desire for Thanos' actions.
Abstract characters are difficult to showcase on film. Especially for the causal viewers. That’s too complicated to implement without a backstory. And a backstory on those type of characters would be incredibly boring and difficult to sell.
Another amazing video!!! No one explored the possibility that the Egyptian Goddess Ammit and Thanos at the end use the same strategy to eliminate half the population to halt the birth of Tiamut by killing half of the population. Ammit by swallowing all the umpure souls first in Cairo and in the whole world as she mention in the Giza pyramids.
Just something to take note of, unlike in the Marvel universe and MCU, in real life the vaudou Loas are not gods. They are the intermediaries between God and humanity.
That’s true! I had a whole write up about that in the script at one point, but ended up not wanting to touch on the real-world versions of the beings spoken about in the video.
Dormammu and the Celestials are cosmic / multiversal entities not necessarily gods, their power/ existence is not based on any kind of worship, certainly not from humans.
Celestial can make so many gods. They are god's god's but the frighting thing is that celestial also can die and celestial also don't know how they were made i mean it's so vaast
so titans, making the abstract entities after the originals, primordials. cool i think you are not getting celestials, the serve someone, they have a lord
I personally love how detailed the MCU is becoming with it's lore, but I've got to point out how confusing it's becoming regarding gods within it. First Thor was a god but now he's just a super strong alien, then celestials came in so they were the real gods, but now there's actual mythical gods like Khonshu, then you have He Who Remains just chilling outside of time, so is he more powerful than the gods for that? it's quite a lot to take in at the minute is all.
It's not a mess if u understand. Eternals aren't gods, thor is a god and an alien(alien simply means your originate elsewhere), he who remains simply exist outside time. That's it
God's are just beings who are different or more powerful than humans. They maybe more intelligent but not any less prone to emotions like humans. Kang is just a human, a really smart one from the future. He seems godlike because his technology/intelligence is so advanced he seems godlike to people of the present his past. It's the same thing if Tony stark went back in time with the Ironman suit. Is he a God no, but his power is real and would seem godlike to past people.
What about the ancient dragons in Shang Chi and the Soul Eater? Seeing how the dimension in which they reside is home to many creatures in Chinese mythology
The Protector (dragon) from Shang Chi was either worshipped as a god or was an ancient Chinese godlike being. I don't think you mentioned that at all. Unless you did and the current affairs of the real world are melting my brain 🤷🏻♂️
@@KeyIssues I could be wrong but I thought the dragon's Chinese name was Shenlong... which translates to God Dragon, they just refer to her as The Protector in the movie. It is definitely a dragon god... they just don't elaborate on it. Maybe it deserves an honorable mention? lol
I wonder how much of the comics they will bring in, with regards to the gods. I remember reading some lore which showed that the pantheons of Earth were basically believed into existence by the innate faith of humans. Could that be the difference between cosmic beings and gods? One group came about naturally and the other was created by powerful belief.
There's lots of retcons in the comics, especially the shifting origin of Earth's pantheons. Some of them have existed long before humans. And some reveal to be sub-minds of bigger gods. The Japanese god Amatsu-Mikaboshi was revealed to be an extension of the Cosmic entity knows as Lord Chaos (the universal embodiment of chaos).
They could use Thena as a bridge linking Eternals to the Greek Pantheon. Zeus could say he adopted her into the family or she won a tournament and became their champion or something.
I believe Khonshu is gonna prove to be stronger than everyone. In the comics he existed before anything was there except darkness and thus even Knull knew him personally. It'd be weird if a being like that is compared against someone like Ikaris who's just a superman photocopy.
I think khonsu being strong in the comics is also weird when you consider a weakened odin smoked set.Also when originally khonsu is not a top tier diety in the mythology
I like to think that gods are ghost alien wizards that take powers and become incarnations and avatars of elder eldrich abominations before time that only bow to the one above. making eternals only what makes their mythology realistic, since real life lore is not a monolith, but a grims tale version of human history, xD So, Khonsu being possesed by his satanic sugr daddy and way being more horrid than what he was during conception makes sense, if you apply my insta filter
Do you think that because of the asgardians are a special brand of aliens created by the celestials or the asgardians possibly surviving an emergence that the remaining cosmic energy might be the reason the asgardians are extremely long-lived and powerful.
Beside the head asgardians Odins ancestors and family who possess the Odin force, the standard asgardian while powerful lives no longer than other aliens like the Kree who live a long time.
@@thewillofdreams6921 asgardian lifespan is approximately 5,000 years while it's never been confirmed of the exact lifespan of the kree or Frost giants, it is said that their lifespan is on par with asgardians.
Good video explanation, I hope to see Mephistopheles in the future now they already showed ghost rider in shield tv show and MCU announced dr doom for future projects
I feel like the way I’d describe the gods on the mcu is that there’s different layers where the bottom is the norse ones who are more just op aliens than the Egyptians, wakandan, greek, and chinese than at the top is the celestial
I liked the vid! Surprised you didn't mention the realm of heaven as the detached 10th realm. I have a feeling this place might be where Zeus is at in Thor 4.
Kind of bums me out that Wakonda was used as the name for black panther’s society. Wakonda is the name for our (Osage, Native American tribe) God, the Creator. It translates to The Great Mystery. Wish it could be used as a god in the marvel universe. The representation would have been nice
See though... You got more than enough wrong there to convince people you aren't Osage. One of the biggest things wrong is how it's actually Wakan Tanka and how it's Lakota and not Osage. Also... there is no "the," it's just "Great Mystery" or "Great Spirit." "The Great Mystery" (or Wakȟáŋ Tȟáŋka) is the entire pantheon.
i think mephisto is the only big on that you missed. cool video! i also do want to add that at least in some of the comics the watchers are shown to have god like power over reality but simply don't use them based on there oaths to just be observers. I'm excited to see how many gods we actually get to meet in love and thunder. oh also maybe the vampire god from blade? but idk if that counts as the mcu yet or anything
Maaan how cool would an infinity war like trilogy be but in the form of a novel story about a battle between theologies/god pantheons. Idk if that is already in the comics but seems plausible based on this video!
Favorite gods in marvel comics... The shinto gods: sun goddess amaterasu and fox god Inari are the coolest one... As Yazata gods I want to see Mithras god of all lights and stars, verethragna the God of victory, competition, war and anahita goddess of water and women.. I think all those 5 would be interesting to see.. Also mithras been very active in hyborian age of marvel. Fun idea maybe Jesus was his avatar as mark spencer is for konshu
I believe the video would do well enough that it'd recoup that money. But 40k seems absolutely wild to me. I assumed when Marlon said that it was just his way of saying he didn't wanna do an interview
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There only two gods Jack Kirby and stan lee
Question, would the scarlet witch be considered a god like being since it is stated that there is a whole chapter devoted to her in the dark hold, has powers that exceed the Sorcerer supreme, and peeks of her having a temple of her to worship in, not to mention it was stated she was never born but forged. She is one of the most powerful being trending so would it make sense to consider her a god?
Turns out the Olympian gods also exist
It’s [Lo-ūa] thats how it’s pronounced by practitioners and in the Yuraba languages.
ETA: Would you do a Scarlet Witch vs the Phoenix, plzzzzzzz?
Shang-Chi also introduced Ta Lo, the realm of the Chinese gods in the comics (like Asgard or Olympus). Although we only saw the mortals who lived there (known as the Qilin Riders in the comics).
Yesss!!! Thats what i was thinking. I wanna see guan yu and ne zha
@@edwardsarhuda2595 Is the Jade Emperor in there?
@@KRYMauL yes the jade emperor was in ta lo
Kinda sad how we only saw a small village . Hoping for more
@@daoistsaintmasterofthenasc6220 It would be great if we get to see, Laughing Buddha and the Kitchen God. Obviously Suen Ng-hung.
It’s possible that Thena and Athena are just similar and so their individual myths were merged into one over time.
Yes
Yep! Like I said, it’s a small issue that we noticed while researching for the video and will likely be cleared up in Thor 4.
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or Athena herself is named after Thena
Why not make the eternals the greek gods? instead of making them separate.
I'm sure the eternals being folded into local lores can be explained by them having relationships with the pantheons. They did mention thor as a kid in the Eternals right?
Possible! Like I said it’s a small issue that I’m sure will be cleared up later.
The comics just had them coexisting in Ancient Greece & sometimes being confused for one another. The Olympians lived on Mount Olympus & the Olympian Eternals lived in Greece's Pindus Mountains.
@@linyenchin6773 Why are you mad over someone pronouncing a word different than you 😭
Unfortunately yes, they mentioned him as a kid, when he shouldn’t have been
@@Jack-rj4kd Thor is 1500 years old in Infinity War, Whereas all the Eternals on Earth are much older. So Kingo meeting kid Thor makes sense.
The fact that he said Christian god and showed OBIWAN from Ep. II is just awesome
I was looking for this comment lol
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definition of god + new gods 2:37
Norse pantheon 3:50
Egyptian and Wakanda pantheon 5:58
Greek pantheon 7:57
Celestials 8:50
Dormammu 11:09
death, entropy, infinity, eterniy10:48
minor/speculative 11:07
Christian god 12:08
the spirit of vengeance 12:22
Hive: founder of hydra 12:40
Voodoo pantheon 12:45
the watcher 13:45
supposed gods 14:05
he who remains 14:16
Thank you
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I don’t get why the people like the living tribunal infinity and eternity are speculative and minor they are def stronger then everyone else and I’m pretty sure that the top the strongest people in marvel are the one above all the beyonders then the living tribual
Isn’t the “Voodoo pantheon” = Orishas in West Africa?
I don't think you mentioned this, but the Jabari tribe does worship Hanuman, the Hindu Monkey God as seen when T'Challa accepts M'Baku's challenge to the throne. Timestamp is 24:32 of Black Panther. An interesting theory about this that my friend brought up to me goes like this: In Hindu Myth's Ramayana, the warrior Lakshmana is injured in a battle and needs saving. To save him, Hanuman is told to bring a special herb with magical healing properties that grows on a mountain. Not knowing which herb to pick, Hanuman brings the entire mountain with him so that someone who knows the herb can take it themselves. It's never really mentioned where he put the mountain down and my friend brought up the theory that he could've put it down in Wakanda before the meteorite struck, making the herb a prototype Heart-shaped herb and giving a reason why the Jabari worship him. Idk how possible it is, I just thought it was cool. Great Video as Always!
This is indeed very cool... damn. But, sidenote here, the "Glory to Hanuman" phrase was infact improvised by the actor playing M'Baku, as he worships Hanuman in real life. So I don't think the lore matters that much.
@@lyricsassam wait he does???
That's interesting 🤔
Actually, there are strong migratory links between Cameroon and India, the Tamil Nadu language actually has roots in Northern Cameroon's Madara people. This can be seen through alot of Asian (especially East Asian cultures); there's a reason why most deities were painted black, even Buddha.
This can also be seen with naming cultures, most West African societies pre-colonialization put family name first, then personal name. This is very prevalent in Japan, China and South Korea even today. In my birth certificate that's how my name's were arranged too, and I was birn in the 90's so, it's a newly fading culture in West Africa.
When I was in LA, I had a funny experience with a korean Uber driver who kept passing me because he was looking for an Asian client based on my name sounding Korean. We laughed about it afterwards but I didn't realize then how profound that experience was and how telling it was.
So, the more appropriate phrasing is, Indians are worshiping African deities, not the other way around.
@@sincerelyeugene6638 well that would be a good research subject. The old tamil language you mentioned is told to be formed from like 400 BC or something.
@@sincerelyeugene6638 bruv you are reaching, stop black washing history, it wasn't cool when europeans were trying whitewash everything now it isn't cool to blackwash it
While their relationship with Bast is a bit different from Mark's connection to Konshu their functionality is similar enough to where the black panther can be classified as an avatar to an Egyptian god. The main difference being that the black panther's power comes from a material substance rather than pure mysticism and the fact that Bast doesn't communicate directly with her avatar, preferring to relay messages through visions while letting her avatar have a great deal of autonomy.
It's just not the same. Avatars are imbued with the power of their god and have a direct connection whereas the black panther is merely physically enhanced by an herb and wears a fancy suit.
@@codybaggett5329 I could see a god of cats being pretty laissez-faire with her avatar. "You do those herbs, I'm gonna take a nap. Can't be expecting to hear from me all the time."
@@codybaggett5329 right and wrong.......because who ever becomes black panther has to travel to the realm of bast (ancestral plane) to complete the transformation so its possible that they gain some of bast powers while there
Love these MCU lore videos. Really helpful references in my writings. Can you perhaps do one on The Hand/chase?
Planning on doing many, many more for sure
@@KeyIssues we look forward to it keep up the good work 👏
While the names of Greek gods and the names of the Eternals present an issue withing the story of the MCU there are some workarounds that can be used.
One in particular that comes to mind id that the real Zues was so impressed by Thena and Phastos that he named some of his children after them while the Eternals were chilling in ancient Greece.
Maybe they were actually as old as Thor and Loki at the time, and the Greeks just made them the same people.
You could also spin it with one joke in the new Thor movie, just have Zeus make a quip about god's having a sense of humor, even Celestials naming some of their dolls after his children.
@@swimmingmide That would actually be a lot better and more fitting with Marvel's theme.
Or somehow they made Greeks Gods are children of Eternals. Who knows.
@@efanferdiantowibowo9610 They established the Eternals are semisentient robots that protect planets/Celestial eggs until they hatch and then the protectors are reset and sent out to protect other planets/eggs. The eternals have had countless identities since the begining of time, their names being riffs on existing dieties makes more sense than they themselves being the source of god claims. It is also more easily explained away with little effort as a joke.
I love having the real world Gods in the mcu its way way way more interesting than the celestials or Galactus any of the other cosmic entities in marvel to me. The only exception so far Dormammu
Wait til beings like death start appearing. Celestials are a joke next to that level.
The celestial and cosmic entities and galactus for the most part are above the gods
Galactus is considered a god but I just compare him to the Gods of Destruction in Dragon Ball Super since Galactus eats planets which is his role to balance creation
Dude is right,for me it's about being interesting not being powerful, the stronger a cosmic entity get,the less interesting it becomes e.g the living tribunal
@@captainmalcolmreynolds1526 thats cool but there still boring to me
I think Thor’s line in the original movie was something to the affect of “where I come from magic and science are one and the same” which may imply that the explanation for magic as a function in the MCU is ultimately logical and somehow scientific more so than that the gods are not magical gods.
I mention that in the video
@@KeyIssuesYeah I just wasn’t sure if the implication was that the tech concept and magical / divine concept were at odds.
No. Mcu Asgardians being technologically advanced super aliens is wog hard canon.
I mean, with the Ancient One's explanation to Strange about magic and what we know so far, magic spells in the MCU are basically "programs to access and borrow power from other entities/realms". It does fall under science to a point, just not human science
This may be a repeated saying, but i will say it. Science and technology that is so advanced may as well be magic. Just as magic that is greatly understood and known becomes a science
12:17 Kenobi is in fact canon as Spider-Man mentions The Empire Strikes Back in Civil War
Very true!
You mentioning the Haïtian Gods earned my subscription. It brought a smile to my face 😊
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JESUS KNOCKS ON YOUR HEART AND LONGS FOR YOU TO ANSWER! HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE PERISH INTO HELL. GOD LOVES YOU SO HE GIVES YOU FREE WILL AND A CHOICE TO ACCEPT HIM OR REJECT HIM. TO LOVE HIM OR TO LOVE SIN/THIS WORLD. CALL UPON JESUS & ASK HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS! SURRENDER YOUR WILL & YOUR LIFE TO HIM & HE WILL GIVE YOU ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN! PICTURE YOUR BEST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HEAVEN! NOW PICTURE YOUR WORST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HELL! HE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT SO IF YOU REJECT HIM YOU WILL BE SEPARATED FROM HIM & HIS BLESSINGS (LOVE, PEACE, JOY, HOPE, REST, ETC). IN HELL YOU WILL BE ALONE WITHOUT GOD OR PEOPLE... YOU WILL BE HOPELESS, IN DESPAIR & AGONY FOREVER!
GOD'S STANDARD FOR HEAVEN IS PERFECTION AND ONLY JESUS (THE SON OF GOD/GOD IN THE FLESH) LIVED THAT PERFECT LIFE! HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE & TOOK THE WRATH OF THE FATHER ON THE CROSS FOR YOUR SINS! GOD IS JUST SO HE MUST PUNISH SIN & HE IS HOLY SO NO SIN CAN ENTER HIS KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. IF YOU ARE IN CHRIST ON JUDGEMENT DAY GOD WILL SEE YOU AS HIS PERFECT SON (SINLESS SINCE YOUR SINS ARE COVERED BY JESUS' OFFERING). YOU CAN ALSO CHOOSE TO REJECT JESUS' GIFT/SACRIFICE & PAY FOR YOUR OWN SIN WITH DEATH (HELL) BUT THAT SEEMS PRETTY FOOLISH! GOD SEES & HEARS EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID & DONE. YOU WONT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH HIM & YOU CANT DEFEND ANY OF YOUR SINS TO HIM. YOU'RE NOT A GOOD PERSON, I'M NOT A GOOD PERSON... ONLY GOD IS GOOD! WE'RE ALL GUILTY WITHOUT ACCEPTING JESUS' SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS!
MUHAMMAD DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, BUDDHA DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, NO PASTOR/NO PRIEST/NO SAINT/NO ANCESTOR DIED FOR YOUR SINS, MARY DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, NO IDOLS OR FALSE gods DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO MUSICIAN OR CELEBRITY DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO INFLUENCER OR UA-cam STAR DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO SCIENTIST OR POLITICIAN DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ATHLETE OR ACTOR DIED FOR YOUR SINS! STOP WORSHIPING THESE PEOPLE!
JESUS CHRIST ALONE DIED FOR YOUR SINS & WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE GRAVE! HE IS ALIVE & COMING BACK VERY SOON WITH JUDGEMENT (THESE ARE END TIMES)! PREPARE YOURSELVES, TURN FROM SIN & RUN TO JESUS! HE KNOWS YOUR PAIN & TROUBLES, HE WANTS TO HEAL & RESTORE YOU! TALK TO HIM LIKE A BEST FRIEND! ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU & HELP YOU TO BELIEVE IF YOU DOUBT! DON'T WAIT TO CRY OUT! NO ONE IS PROMISED TOMORROW! HE LONGS FOR YOU TO INVITE HIM IN, HE LOVES YOU MORE THAN ANY PERSON EVER COULD, HE CREATED YOU!
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I love the idea of Kang, or more accurately, a regular dude, becoming so powerful he dwarfs every god (or godlike) creature in the MCU, who was basically born into that power.
I mean he is a Richards, so it checks out. That said I would rather they actually include The One Above All.
@@KRYMauLhe would only appear if the multi verse would come to a end or the MCU in this case
@@Killuminati911 You mean when they do secret wars?
@@KRYMauL Personally they are just starting to introduce higher power beings like the Celestials, so I doubt The One Above All will be introduced anytime soon.
@@blitzwolfer4154 I wouldn't be surprised if he showed up in Secret Wars at the end or if they used him to explain God King Doom.
Holy shit we have a UA-camr who acknowledged the existence of Cloak and Dagger!!! Immediate sub
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Yes!!! Can’t wait to see them make their return back into the MCU.
is it part of the mcu? everyone keeps saying it's not but some people say it is, i am little confused if i should watch it or not
@@Musclemindset-maniak it connects to luke cage and crossed over with the runaways.
In the recent episode of Moon Knight, it has been established that several other Egyptian gods have been sealed away like Ammit
Nice Video.
I want to clarify something, Kang doesn't do everything he wants. For example, he can't interfere a cosmic being destroying a planet (unless he destroys the universe itself), For sure he knows that's gonna happen, and if it doesn't happen he can reset the timeline, but just because he wants it he can't kill a Celestial with normal ways unless he sends them to Alioth with the rest of the universe. TVA Agents are still basic humans and they struggle with likes of Loki and Sylvie, so they have literally zero chance against even people like Hela & Surtur or Scarlet Witch, let alone cosmic beings like Celestials & Dormammu.
They are also pretty much tech guys, so they probably can't also interfere other dimensions too, like Afterlife dimensions or God dimensions such as the place where Egyptian Gods live (Khonsu etc). We know every universe has its set of dimensions, we saw Alternate Dark dimension, Ancestral Plane etc in What If series...., but anything happened in main universe/ main dimensions' timeline, they can control it for sure.
Yeah pruning a celestial into the Void doesn’t sound like the best idea
He Who remains could have done deals with the Celestials to follow his plan, at the end of the day there's no much a Celestial do, they create galaxies and new life, they don't apparently interfere with life more than to give life to a Celestial
@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu He did, my point is, he isn't actually leading the timeline, he just knows everything inside the timeline. He is not "Above everything". He can't delete the evil / bad things from universe. He can't just erase an event from the timeline just because he wants it.
He knows Eternals will stop Tiamut. Because if they don't Kang will never born. But can he really interfere and stop the birth of Tiamut unless he prune the universe? No he can't.
He knows Strange will stop Dormammu. But if he don't. He has no chance except prune that timeline.
@@sozkskslssss1018 OK maybe he isn't above everything but he controls the timeline, he was the winner of a Timeline war were he used Alioth to erase all other timelines aside from the sacred one, which in theory erased all variant versions of Arishem for example up to that point.
It's posible that he chose a Timeline were the events happen in a way that don't create trouble with the celestials.
We technically don't know if the Sacred timeline is HWR original timelime, after all as seen in Endgame you don't need your past self to exist for you to exist, cause if the past changes It's no longer your past but an alternative timeline, so HWR doesn't need Kang to be born, actually since Kang started the Multiversal War it will make sense for HWR to chose a timeline where he isn't born.
Also the control of HWR can explain why Dr strange plan in Infinity War worked, Thanos Snap was random so there was a big chance of Tony dying and being unable to develop timetravel to get the IS in the past, but If Kang erases all posible outcomes except the one where Strange visión works it make some sense that it happens
Well, He Who Remains allowed those events to happen during Loki. The TVA never really had any other issues pruning anyone else to our knowledge (at least from what I remember). Also, if he REALLY wanted to kill a single Celestial, he could easily do that with Alioth.
As for controlling the events of the timeline, or confronting characters like Strange, Wanda, etc. he can easily do that as well by changing events far in the past by using the TVA (as he knows every event throughout history past, present, and future) He was only ever confronted by Loki and Sylvie because he allowed it to happen.
this is a nice compendium. it would have been cool to include chinese deities of the MCU as well, like the "dweller-in-darkness" and the "great protector" dragon. i think in terms of mythology, they are worshiped/legendized in the same way as all the other beings in this video.
absolutely love the fact you mentioned the Loa nobody agknowlages cloak and dagger in the MCU and I really wanna see jt
As a mexican id love to see aztec gods Huitzilopochtli, Quetzalcoatl, Tezcatlipoca, and Xipe Totec which in legend are very powerfull gods
just wait for namor to show up in black panther 2!!
I am an indian but i wanna see them too
Big facts bro
How can you even rmemeber the names
@@rajveersingh2k04 I’ve been able to remember Huitzilopochtli and Quetzalcoatl since I was a kid, Kamazotz also comes to mind
I love the Science Fiction stories of the Infinity Arc in the first three phrases,but this Mystical/Supernatural Arc in Phases four and Five are going to be fascinating to watch
Runaways is dubious MCU canonicity, but since you mentioned Cloak and Dagger, I might as well mention that the Gibborim should probably count as gods at least insofar as the definition that theyre worshipped
I was gonna say this as well since I’m currently watching season 2
Cloak and dagger has several ties to luke cage, agent carter, iron fist, and tony stark so yeah if daredevil is cannon it brings basically every show with it
The Black Panther Goddess Bast is based off the Bastet the kemetic goddess of cats and warfare and fertility . And in civil war, the Goddess Sekhmet is mentioned, she is also a kemetic Goddess of healing, destruction and war. Also I heard that the show moon knight shows Khonsu the kemetic God of the moon, time and healing.
The show shows a lot of Egyptian gods
Strange supreme having absorbed so many demons and gods should be considered a god in my opinion. Also missed Izel and sarge from agents of shield. Actually dweller in darkness too.
god of? spells?
Hes not canon to the films.
@@codybaggett5329 he included uatu though
more like a giant
I’m loving how Marvel is explaining all the different Pantheons of gods within the MCU. It surprisingly fits quite well among the foundations of the MCU. I can’t wait to see Gorr the God Butcher in Thor Love and Thunder and I also can’t wait to see the introduction of the Greek Pantheon of Gods and Demi gods like Zeus and Hercules. I’ve heard rumors that Russel Crowe is playing Zeus. If that’s the true then we’re going to be in for a treat! On a side note, I’d love to see Knull the god of the Symbiotes and Exolons in all of his glory with his Necrosword. With that being said, because Sony has the film rights to Venom, I don’t particularly see Marvel showcasing Knull within the MCU unless they plan on doing a serious and full blown crossover with Venom. Lastly, I thought it was a nice touch and a very cool detail that when the Eternals stopped Tiamut’s birthing, he was turned into stone, more specifically marble. The reason as to why I find that so cool is because there are hundreds of mountains, mountain ranges, and massive standing rocks and boulders that look strikingly like the giants of ancient times which are called the Titans. There’s even a group of people who believe that these Titans were in fact flesh and blood and alive at one point in time before they were turned to stone. So it’s very cool to see Marvel pulling from all sorts of mythology from around the world.
it would be herakles if its greek fyi
Imagine if the MCU did a king in black mega event movie! Wow
JESUS KNOCKS ON YOUR HEART AND LONGS FOR YOU TO ANSWER! HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE PERISH INTO HELL. GOD LOVES YOU SO HE GIVES YOU FREE WILL AND A CHOICE TO ACCEPT HIM OR REJECT HIM. TO LOVE HIM OR TO LOVE SIN/THIS WORLD. CALL UPON JESUS & ASK HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS! SURRENDER YOUR WILL & YOUR LIFE TO HIM & HE WILL GIVE YOU ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN! PICTURE YOUR BEST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HEAVEN! NOW PICTURE YOUR WORST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HELL! HE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT SO IF YOU REJECT HIM YOU WILL BE SEPARATED FROM HIM & HIS BLESSINGS (LOVE, PEACE, JOY, HOPE, REST, ETC). IN HELL YOU WILL BE ALONE WITHOUT GOD OR PEOPLE... YOU WILL BE HOPELESS, IN DESPAIR & AGONY FOREVER!
GOD'S STANDARD FOR HEAVEN IS PERFECTION AND ONLY JESUS (THE SON OF GOD/GOD IN THE FLESH) LIVED THAT PERFECT LIFE! HE LAID DOWN HIS LIFE & TOOK THE WRATH OF THE FATHER ON THE CROSS FOR YOUR SINS! GOD IS JUST SO HE MUST PUNISH SIN & HE IS HOLY SO NO SIN CAN ENTER HIS KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. IF YOU ARE IN CHRIST ON JUDGEMENT DAY GOD WILL SEE YOU AS HIS PERFECT SON (SINLESS SINCE YOUR SINS ARE COVERED BY JESUS' OFFERING). YOU CAN ALSO CHOOSE TO REJECT JESUS' GIFT/SACRIFICE & PAY FOR YOUR OWN SIN WITH DEATH (HELL) BUT THAT SEEMS PRETTY FOOLISH! GOD SEES & HEARS EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID & DONE. YOU WONT WIN AN ARGUMENT WITH HIM & YOU CANT DEFEND ANY OF YOUR SINS TO HIM. YOU'RE NOT A GOOD PERSON, I'M NOT A GOOD PERSON... ONLY GOD IS GOOD! WE'RE ALL GUILTY WITHOUT ACCEPTING JESUS' SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS!
MUHAMMAD DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, BUDDHA DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, NO PASTOR/NO PRIEST/NO SAINT/NO ANCESTOR DIED FOR YOUR SINS, MARY DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, NO IDOLS OR FALSE gods DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO MUSICIAN OR CELEBRITY DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO INFLUENCER OR UA-cam STAR DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO SCIENTIST OR POLITICIAN DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ATHLETE OR ACTOR DIED FOR YOUR SINS! STOP WORSHIPING THESE PEOPLE!
JESUS CHRIST ALONE DIED FOR YOUR SINS & WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE GRAVE! HE IS ALIVE & COMING BACK VERY SOON WITH JUDGEMENT (THESE ARE END TIMES)! PREPARE YOURSELVES, TURN FROM SIN & RUN TO JESUS! HE KNOWS YOUR PAIN & TROUBLES, HE WANTS TO HEAL & RESTORE YOU! TALK TO HIM LIKE A BEST FRIEND! ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU & HELP YOU TO BELIEVE IF YOU DOUBT! DON'T WAIT TO CRY OUT! NO ONE IS PROMISED TOMORROW! HE LONGS FOR YOU TO INVITE HIM IN, HE LOVES YOU MORE THAN ANY PERSON EVER COULD, HE CREATED YOU!
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6
"But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33
“For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23
Not sure we can trust much of the info from the opening crawl in Eternals. A lot of the stuff it said was proven wrong through the movie and most of it was likely just Celestial propaganda.
Is no one talking about the picture of Ewan McGregor when he talked about the christian god?
lol I didnt even notice :D :D
Me too, I spat my drink cuz of that
Big fan of the Percy Jackson Universe so I grew up loving the Greek, Egyptian, Norse, and Roman Gods, I’m reading the Korean Mythology one now. Being a fan of Marvel as well makes this so exciting👀👀❕
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Wait til you see the Greek Gods from the Saint Seiya Hypermyth.
same here man and i’ve been listening to them again for nostalgias sake and they are cornier then i remember them but they pretty good
Great video thanks for cleaning it up I was quite confused with all these gods 😂
Thanks!
Very good vid. Lots of more famous channels mainly use click bait and repetition to fill videos, but you are informative and concise. Subbed.
I would’ve mentioned Morgan le Fay and the Gibborim, for their godlike powers and the fact that they both have followings of some kind.
well wanda is much stronger than her
I hope we see some Celtic deities in the MCU Finn McCool would be perfect. Also the Mayan deities and Inuit deities would be great (especially if we get snowguard)
Other Celtic deities I'd love to see is the Cailleach, Rhiannon, Ogmios, and really any of the Tuatha de Dannan
I think we kinda already saw one, in the end on Eternals we see a literal leprechaun
@@rafaelalodio5116 pip the troll is not a leprechaun
@@andisadoily1935 But he sure as hell look like one
@@rafaelalodio5116 no he doesn't he straight up has goat legs, more of a satyr than a leprechaun
Just wait till they get to the One Above All. Hopefully Kevin Feige plays him
Lol
What about One Below All
They basically are the same being just the good and bad side of it.
Too bad Stan Lee can't play him
@@cosmickeyboard9811 imagine Spider met him, just like in the comics
Bro you killed me with the sponsoring bofl 😂😂😂 but great job on this video ☺️ I'll be clicking on more now
I'm really baffled that now creators need to give a disclaimer. It shows how much intolerant we as a society have become.
Just imagine what would have happened if he added hindu gods here
@@Revivalism23 exactly 🤣
I dont think "we" is the right word. But you got a point
Thank you for making this video. I’ve actually been think of how crowded the M.C.U.’s “heaven” would be with all of these different characters.
>Mentions AoS and Cloak & Dagger
I gotta leave a like
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Shao Lao, Ta-Lo, or the Dweller in Darkness
They don’t fall under the definition of a god, but we’re considered during the script writing process.
None of those are gods. Ta-Lo isn't even a being, it's a place.
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Greek Athena could possibly be named after Eternal Athena.
Pretty sure this is what happened in the comics but reversed.
Arishen could have just based his Thena model on the actual Athena.
@@ScionStorm1 i don’t think so the eternals are old asf helping other celestials on other planets
I read that there are more Marvel deity characters based on actual deities, for example, Celtic/Irish, Slavic, African, Native American, Finnish, Inuit, Philippine, Hindu, Aztec, Maya, Inca, Aboriginal, Mesopotamian, Japanese, Chinese and Polynesian. I was hoping to get a mention for a few of them
Well in the comics it did say that they had an agreement the Eternals would represent the greek gods since they were so similar. So realistically there is no problem its accurate
Beinc comic accurate doesn’t make it any less stupid…
@@theguileraven7014 There is nothing stupid about it
@@keemkeem3820 It’s completely stupid and convoluted as hell. I’m sorry, but having a bunch of aliens that all just happen to super closely resemble the local pantheon of gods, just happen to land in the same area that said gods operate, then making an agreement to represent and substitute for each other, is just silly and needlessly complicated. You’d have to be completely blinded by comic bias, to try and convince anyone that that’s good story telling.
What most likely happened, is one writer wrote the Greek gods as being actual godly beings. Then another writer tried to make up an alien species as the origin of the greek gods. Then some other poor writer got stuck with the unfortunate task of trying to make both of these things work within the same setting.
The MCU had the chance to avoid this mess. All they had to do was pick either Eternals or Olympians. Not both.
@@theguileraven7014 yawn... its not stupid and makes perfect sense
@@theguileraven7014 cool story bud
Sickkkkkk dude!!! Great job bro 👏
You may have to update this with the gods of Atlantis!
The fact this man had to put a disclaimer when where talking comics and movies is sad we should be smarter than we are
10:56 Additionally, these same images appear on the walls of the Temple Vault on Morag when Star-Lord steals the Orb. Anyway, this is a very interesting topic, and will most likely need an update after Thor: Love and Thunder.
This is so complicated, we need a chart for this.
I’m pretty sure Thena is the same Athena in Greek mythology, she probably met with Zeus on earth when he visited some time and sprite just lied about their origin
Definitely need an update on this by the end of this year
There's a saying that either all gods are real or none of them are, in Marvel they're all real. There was a show called Dead Like Me that explained how every god can exist, it was a quirky show about the daily routine of being a Grim Reaper, needing a day job to pay the rent and whatnot.
i like to think there is an entity above everything, maybe two. Everything working like an mlm, you get stuff and give to your followers, and above you there is someone, and above them, like a family tree, a magic ecosystem. So, eldrich get from the above one(s, primordials from the eldrich, titans from prim, Gods from titan, gods from GODS, angels from gods, fairies from angel, human and such from whatever
And they all tryna slap each other, until a higher rank steps up and sends them to dunce corner
So, what is the explaination in the show, am so curious, : 3
@@ELbabotas1 Every god of every religion is real in the MCU except there's a character known as The One Above All who's technically the God of Marvel, his counterpart is The One Below All, they rank higher than the religious gods, Thor, Zeus, the Beyonders, Watchers, Eternity, Death etc.
12:17 we just going to skip over the fact that picture of "jesus" is just obi one kenobi
I remeber the Russo brothers saying in the first Thor movie was that they wanted it a tiny bit more grounded just including alien type creatures but after that the Russis said it was retconned and that he was just bringing Loki down a size coz he at that time his whole identity was that of being a god and from there on out he was actually a god and that came from the Russos
Pretty sure you're incorrect, especially when you consider that the Russo's didn't direct Thor 1, or 2.
Thanks mate!! Fantastic work and infor!!
It's a shame you couldn't mention Mephisto but the bait and switch in WandaVision. Also it's a shame Lady Death didn't make it into the films as the true desire for Thanos' actions.
Abstract characters are difficult to showcase on film. Especially for the causal viewers. That’s too complicated to implement without a backstory. And a backstory on those type of characters would be incredibly boring and difficult to sell.
Another amazing video!!! No one explored the possibility that the Egyptian Goddess Ammit and Thanos at the end use the same strategy to eliminate half the population to halt the birth of Tiamut by killing half of the population. Ammit by swallowing all the umpure souls first in Cairo and in the whole world as she mention in the Giza pyramids.
Just something to take note of, unlike in the Marvel universe and MCU, in real life the vaudou Loas are not gods. They are the intermediaries between God and humanity.
That’s true! I had a whole write up about that in the script at one point, but ended up not wanting to touch on the real-world versions of the beings spoken about in the video.
Mephisto,zarathos, azrael, lucifer: "let them have their fun....."
Dormammu and the Celestials are cosmic / multiversal entities not necessarily gods, their power/ existence is not based on any kind of worship, certainly not from humans.
Celestial can make so many gods. They are god's god's but the frighting thing is that celestial also can die and celestial also don't know how they were made i mean it's so vaast
And what and where was arishem doing before he created. First sun what made him to do
so titans, making the abstract entities after the originals, primordials. cool
i think you are not getting celestials, the serve someone, they have a lord
Dude great video thanks! You didnt forget He who remains.
I personally love how detailed the MCU is becoming with it's lore, but I've got to point out how confusing it's becoming regarding gods within it. First Thor was a god but now he's just a super strong alien, then celestials came in so they were the real gods, but now there's actual mythical gods like Khonshu, then you have He Who Remains just chilling outside of time, so is he more powerful than the gods for that? it's quite a lot to take in at the minute is all.
It's a mess and I doubt they will ever address that, they will use whatever deity they need to tell certain story and leave it like that.
It's not a mess if u understand. Eternals aren't gods, thor is a god and an alien(alien simply means your originate elsewhere), he who remains simply exist outside time. That's it
@@shadowx8145 “simply” is a word that doesn’t go well with “exist outside of time” lol
@@rafaelalodio5116 hes a kang variant
God's are just beings who are different or more powerful than humans. They maybe more intelligent but not any less prone to emotions like humans.
Kang is just a human, a really smart one from the future. He seems godlike because his technology/intelligence is so advanced he seems godlike to people of the present his past.
It's the same thing if Tony stark went back in time with the Ironman suit. Is he a God no, but his power is real and would seem godlike to past people.
Not gonna lie I forgot cloak and dagger was a show. Thanks I'ma go watch it now 🙏🏾🤣
What about the ancient dragons in Shang Chi and the Soul Eater? Seeing how the dimension in which they reside is home to many creatures in Chinese mythology
I don’t think the shows before Disney+ are canon, but it’s still cool to hear about them since I’ve never watched them.
Haitian gods will be used more in the MCU. Once Doctor Voodoo shows up in a Dr. Strange movie.
Or kraven wife
Doctor Voodoo is not coming
Glad someone finally acknowledges Cloak & Dagger
The Protector (dragon) from Shang Chi was either worshipped as a god or was an ancient Chinese godlike being. I don't think you mentioned that at all. Unless you did and the current affairs of the real world are melting my brain 🤷🏻♂️
I don’t think they worshipped the Dragon which is why I excluded it
@@KeyIssues I could be wrong but I thought the dragon's Chinese name was Shenlong... which translates to God Dragon, they just refer to her as The Protector in the movie. It is definitely a dragon god... they just don't elaborate on it. Maybe it deserves an honorable mention? lol
The One Above All! He appeared in a lot of MCU movies, watching over them all always having a Funny line, RIP Stan Lee
I want to see all these gods interact.
And explain everything lol
Thank you for this video, I love Marvel comics but there was so much I didn't know and well I do love mythology so again thank you
I was not even close to seeing love and thunder. Don't like Natalie or Jane foster thor. But I love zeus so if he's in it I'm seeing it
Appreciate the disclaimer. 🤙🏾
I wonder how much of the comics they will bring in, with regards to the gods. I remember reading some lore which showed that the pantheons of Earth were basically believed into existence by the innate faith of humans. Could that be the difference between cosmic beings and gods? One group came about naturally and the other was created by powerful belief.
Yeah i really liked that idea of Gods existing because humans thought of them i originally thought that was what the Norse Gods were
There's lots of retcons in the comics, especially the shifting origin of Earth's pantheons. Some of them have existed long before humans. And some reveal to be sub-minds of bigger gods. The Japanese god Amatsu-Mikaboshi was revealed to be an extension of the Cosmic entity knows as Lord Chaos (the universal embodiment of chaos).
They could use Thena as a bridge linking Eternals to the Greek Pantheon. Zeus could say he adopted her into the family or she won a tournament and became their champion or something.
I believe Khonshu is gonna prove to be stronger than everyone. In the comics he existed before anything was there except darkness and thus even Knull knew him personally. It'd be weird if a being like that is compared against someone like Ikaris who's just a superman photocopy.
I think khonsu being strong in the comics is also weird when you consider a weakened odin smoked set.Also when originally khonsu is not a top tier diety in the mythology
the shitty eternals movie really messed up all the gods/mythology that was set up by moon knight
I like to think that gods are ghost alien wizards that take powers and become incarnations and avatars of elder eldrich abominations before time that only bow to the one above.
making eternals only what makes their mythology realistic, since real life lore is not a monolith, but a grims tale version of human history, xD
So, Khonsu being possesed by his satanic sugr daddy and way being more horrid than what he was during conception makes sense, if you apply my insta filter
Comic Khonshu is only around 5 billion years old. That's nothing compared to the Celestials, much less The One Above All or Galactus.
Cool video, loved it!!
Do you think that because of the asgardians are a special brand of aliens created by the celestials or the asgardians possibly surviving an emergence that the remaining cosmic energy might be the reason the asgardians are extremely long-lived and powerful.
Also explains why Asgard isn't spherical like most other planets
Well in some continuities the asgardians were created by the celestials
Beside the head asgardians Odins ancestors and family who possess the Odin force, the standard asgardian while powerful lives no longer than other aliens like the Kree who live a long time.
@@thewillofdreams6921 asgardian lifespan is approximately 5,000 years while it's never been confirmed of the exact lifespan of the kree or Frost giants, it is said that their lifespan is on par with asgardians.
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Great video!
Good video explanation, I hope to see Mephistopheles in the future now they already showed ghost rider in shield tv show and MCU announced dr doom for future projects
00:00 INTRO/AD
02:42 NORSE ALIENS/GODS
05:47 EGYPTIAN/WAKANDAN GODS
07:58 GREEK GODS
12:08 THE CHRISTIAN GOD ✝️
Anyone with every infinity stone can be considered god-like including Thanos, Ultron, the Hulk, AND IRON MAN !! How did you forget Iron Man ?!!
I feel like the way I’d describe the gods on the mcu is that there’s different layers where the bottom is the norse ones who are more just op aliens than the Egyptians, wakandan, greek, and chinese than at the top is the celestial
I low key wanna see the Mangog in the MCU battle it out with Thor or Lady Thor.
I liked the vid! Surprised you didn't mention the realm of heaven as the detached 10th realm. I have a feeling this place might be where Zeus is at in Thor 4.
There is always a "god" and "GOD" in the MCU
complicated
Marvel fan: Okay just how many religions are right in this universe?
Marvel writer: Yes
Kind of bums me out that Wakonda was used as the name for black panther’s society. Wakonda is the name for our (Osage, Native American tribe) God, the Creator. It translates to The Great Mystery. Wish it could be used as a god in the marvel universe. The representation would have been nice
We don’t care
@@jefferywilliams2624 Colonizers never care
Wakonda is most likely hiding in MCU, but you'l need a Osage character or 'em to have a reason to surface
See though... You got more than enough wrong there to convince people you aren't Osage. One of the biggest things wrong is how it's actually Wakan Tanka and how it's Lakota and not Osage. Also... there is no "the," it's just "Great Mystery" or "Great Spirit." "The Great Mystery" (or Wakȟáŋ Tȟáŋka) is the entire pantheon.
@@mimcduffee86 test
12:18 so no one’s gonna mention that captain America worships obi wan kenobi?
The one above all … he’s the closest thing to god … Power is literally limitless there is no base to begin his power
mcuuuuu not the comicssss c'monnnnn
@@kr6to409 So Galactus then?
You did miss one… Stan lee himself!
Excited for Thor's Battle of the Gods, continued in Avengers Battle of Gods.
i think mephisto is the only big on that you missed. cool video! i also do want to add that at least in some of the comics the watchers are shown to have god like power over reality but simply don't use them based on there oaths to just be observers. I'm excited to see how many gods we actually get to meet in love and thunder. oh also maybe the vampire god from blade? but idk if that counts as the mcu yet or anything
Currently playing God of War 4 so I appreciate the using of elfheim from the game as an image
Maaan how cool would an infinity war like trilogy be but in the form of a novel story about a battle between theologies/god pantheons. Idk if that is already in the comics but seems plausible based on this video!
It’d be funny af if greek gods started coming into play and they started making percy jackson references
12:17 Obi-Wan: Hello there.
Favorite gods in marvel comics... The shinto gods: sun goddess amaterasu and fox god Inari are the coolest one... As Yazata gods I want to see Mithras god of all lights and stars, verethragna the God of victory, competition, war and anahita goddess of water and women..
I think all those 5 would be interesting to see..
Also mithras been very active in hyborian age of marvel. Fun idea maybe Jesus was his avatar as mark spencer is for konshu
Good video 🙏🏼
The funniest thing ever would be if the MCU made Kevin Feige The One Above All
I believe the video would do well enough that it'd recoup that money. But 40k seems absolutely wild to me. I assumed when Marlon said that it was just his way of saying he didn't wanna do an interview