What 4J Studios Understood That Mojang Doesn’t...
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
- 7 years since 4J Studios and Minecraft Console Edition I talk about the age old debate. 4J Studios VS Mojang
I was sick while filming this video so that's why my voice sounds way more monotone than usual lol
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This video got WAY more attention than I expected and that also means a lot of people have been asking why the video was so short 😅
This video really wasn’t meant to be a typical Minecraft UA-cam documentary but a shorter more straight to the point 4 minute video
Thanks for watching and leave your comments below cause I do read all of them :3
Brevity is the soul of wit man, others would have dragged it out to a 2 hour "video essay" so good job
:3
all you need to know is that on the xbox 360 version of minecraft you can just look at the crafting table and press the inventory/craft button and craft by proximity just like Terraria has it, but you have to look at the crafting table
Straight to the point? I'm sorry but i don't see any point that was made aside from you saying that mojang "can't do something" what is that something, what made 4j so different. Nothing in the video proved that, the only evidence i could find was those minigames and even then there are servers you can play for the same experience. I'm not mad or anything just confused, as all you did was waffle for four minutes straight saying mojang miss an opportunity, which is understandable but I'd like to know what 4j did and how there direction was better.
@@brightonslade8809 damn just leave a dislike next time 😭
I always though 4J Studios put more love into Minecraft than Mojang ever will.
I don’t think it’s mojang, I actually think it’s Microsoft’s fault
@@rifter4478it’s not a joke. Current mojang is much worse than 4J studios
@@rifter4478says the joke
@@Bugplanet8840its microsoft
@@rifter4478greed and no consistency between old and new Minecraft
4J Studios knew something Mojang still doesn't know to this day. They knew how to make a actual high quality console port that doesn't make you die from nothing :)
Why do people always blame on Mojang and not Microsoft? They probably wanted to port console in general but they couldn’t due Microsoft
Blame Microsoft, mojang hasn't changed much since notch was a part of it, ever since micorosft owned it, they've been controlling mojang, essentially forcing them to do these things
Legacy was not some perfect, smooth-running glitch-free experience, be so fr.
Compared to bedrock 4Js port feels PERFECT. I played a pot of it in the past and then I started playing bedrock after not having played for a while and I immediately felt like something was off. It didn't feel like how java does and didn't feel like console edition either. It just felt wrong
@@binksreviews With the exception of a bug with throwing loyalty tridents freezing your game sometimes, its performance is great, and most other bugs are useful or neutral so overall it pretty much is (coming from someone who hosts a server on legacy ps4 and has been playing primarily on the version for a while now).
Bedrock is literally just pocket edition but ported to everything
ik I hate it
Insane to think they're charging you to run a mobile version of the game on your state-of-the-art home console.
It’s still better
@@slapshotjack9806 It's fucking pathetic, everything is monetised with no freedom to download mods or create servers without giving money to microsoft, you even have to pay for your limited skin customisation options
@@TonightTheMusicSeemsSoLoudd yo don’t have to pay for anything and console wasn’t moddable to begin with so get over yourself
So in summary, what makes Console better than Bedrock is
-better graphics
-more world types (amplified + custome flatworld)
-inbuilt mini-game modes
And advanced world creation options
The classic textures are free on Bedrock...
@@ProxiProtogen programmer art texture pack is awful they haven't updated that in years. they didn't bother to make the textures not clash with the old style and they don't seem to care
And most of all
NO IN GAME PURCHASES
@@jvgradiz906 there was some lol
What I miss most about Console Edition is the tutorial worlds. In addition to getting you started on the basics of Minecraft, they were a great showcase for what was possible to build. Just thinking about the original Xbox tutorial world is really nostalgic.
It felt like there were endless possibilities, it felt so special
finding the "secret village" to the left of the starting area and discovering a netherrack fireplace before even knowing what the nether was will always be a highlight of my childhood. My first house in creative mode was made with netherrack just cause my kid-brain thought it was so cool and mysterious
I remember the tutorial map with the Eilean Donan Castle, so grand
Just the fact that they put a tutorial world by itself shows how much effort 4J put into the game in comparison to bedrock imo
the fact they made references to the community in each one shows more than that.
java also doesn't have a tutorial world, is the word you're looking for Mojang? because you really should get a life instead of shitting on a 30$ children's game
@@Napoleon_e2 your getting upset at someone cause they acknowledged the fact that a small indie studio did a better job at handling the most sold game in the world rather than the studio that made it. You should shave and look in the mirror before saying someone else needs a life. Also. Your defending Java? The "kids game" that has a S@x mod? Get the fuck out of here 😂
@@Napoleon_e2 wtf
@@honignoname98 wtf
i will still never understand why bedrock is built over pocket edition…A BUGGY MOBILE GAME…over the better fleshed out console version….
It’s because of the light weight code that was used for pocket edition, I think it was c#
@@DirectalYTthey both used c++
C++, C# was for the console edition. Surprisingly i found that most games based c# are more optimised than the c++ ones which is supposed to be better 🤷♂️ devs are lazy
It makes sense, they had crossplay between windows 10 and pocket, makes sense to have Xbox be there
@@emilydavidson8844 except it took them forever to make it good, and even now the edition has a bunch of issues
The console versions also have one thing that Java/Bedrock didn't, manual saves.
well i did find a mod that does add manual saves for java, although its trying to replicate legacy edition sooo :)
Practically you save manually in Java edition by pressing escape
Edit: It did aave automatically in Java 1.2.5, idk about recent versions
thats stupid , what if I want to press escape and not save?@@wibs0n68
omg yes
Not only manual saves, but also manual "exit without saving." Helpful for quickly reseting worlds after you and your friends decided to blowup everything just because.
I don't play Java, so maybe this feature exists there? I wouldn't know, and no, I'm not googling it.
I feel like console edition has better textures, or maybe that's just the nostalgia.
It’s the nostalgia
It's probably nostalgia. But I love the aesthetic, even with 1.14 on PS4, you can still tell it's console edition
The new textures are overly-detailed for textures that are only 16 x 16 pixels wide, they have too many colors and it hurts the contrast by making blocks look like you've put a blur filter over them, not also counting the rules broken in the general pixel art sphere (banding, noise pixels)
It’s not the nostalgia, the old textures are just better. I know Minecraft can’t stay the same forever but the old textures were good, don’t get me wrong the new ones are very detailed but man… I miss the rocky texture of the nether. It was good castles, but when I convert an old world the castle just looks ugly.
@@Sexgamer45 yeah, what I hate is when the changed the ore textures, they looked good before they were updated
I miss the way 4j did menus. I struggle a ton to navigate the Bedrock Edition menus, crafting is a nightmare. I miss the old days.
the sound effects & visuals of the menus were awesome, the bedrock edition menus are ugly & i wish bedrock never happened
@@artifactU the wooden clicking sound effect on bedrock menus actually has me malding. Idk, it’s just annoying as hell. I think they’re on java too
@@artifactU they aren't ugly, just simplistic, there is nothing that makes them ugly, nostalgia maybe?
crafting is the same as java, u can also just use the recipe book
@@Napoleon_e2 its called an opinion, there doesnt have to be a reason for it
Surprisingly they never touched on the UI and UX. It’s very apparent Mojang doesn’t know what a controller is by using the interface in bedrock
Microsoft*
Mojang work only on Java version with not support controllers at all
@fl414r
Mojang have teams for java and bedrock and also for other games. The main developer for these game is mojang although they might not be the same developer teams under the nametag
I prefer bedrock UI over console edition hands down. Took some getting used to sure but it's light-years ahead of console edition.
@@ForsetiAE You can't be serious.
@@poxbox6729 I'm 100% serious. I get why bedrock has that moniker but that was years ago.
Personally, I think they could’ve made Legacy cross platform, if they made some changes it could’ve happened
they would have needed infinite terrain for that
@waytoobiased i think he meant having all the legacy editions be able to play together instead of only being able to play with those of the same console
@@lumnary7635it would have taken a lot of time, as every console was having minecraft legacy at its own rythm, and game was made differently for every console (maybe im wrong in this, correct me if That’s the case). But it would be absolutely awesome
Not really. Sure, both use C++ but it would take extensive reworking to make it fit into a phone. Let alone how things like IOS need special tools for C++ code to run.
@@AnonTDegenerateno they’re talking about cross console not mobile
I agree, Minecraft console edition is the best game on a technical level that’s unmatched from bedrock’s terrible mobile version, it will never truly see its full potential because of dealing with mobile platforms!
It’s not really the fault of the mobile platforms, it’s the fact that Mojang just uses mobile platforms as an excuse to never do what 4J has done, people have made have shown them that it’s possible to do what 4J did for all platforms and they just say “mobile has limitations sorry”
NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD A PC TO PLAY JAVA EDITION!!!!!!
Bedrock has rtx, enough for me
@@emilydavidson8844 bedrock pcs with nividia GeForce rtx graphics can use rtx
@@MakuO0o yes I have an rtx 3060
4j studios actually knows how to make a optimized game that WILL run on all devices. There were like 3 glitches and all of them were extremely rare occurrences
(crafting duplication glitch has joined the chat)
I grew up with ps3 minecraft and TO THIS DAY THAT IS THE BEST VERSION OF MINECRAFT
agreed
I agree. PS4 version ran better than ps3 version though. Until it became bedrock 🥲
Ay bruh u ain't played on my java edition server yet, so there's a chance to change that
@@NeilBoothah yes your server alone will change his mind
@@humanoidshrek5524imo any Java server would lmao I just can't see the appeal of bedrock save for a few minor tweaks, like enchantment. That's not enough for me.
The pixelated 4J, mojang and Xbox live logos are just pure nostalgic
Just booting up the game and the first thing you see are those logos, didn’t mean anything back then but how it hits different
"because we already knew that" caught me off guard lol
I’ve made peace with bedrock since it came to Xbox in 2017, but legacy edition will forever remain the version of Minecraft that is most important to me.
It’s also crazy how legacy edition is not very well known within today’s younger Minecraft audience.
Because it's legacy version
And in an outdated console.
@@wibs0n68 It's still better than any modern minecraft version.
Oddly enough, despite growing up playing pocket edition due to a lack of a PC, I always found the Xbox 360/PS3 variants to be the most nostalgic to me. Maybe its the fact that a lot of youtubers i watched played on those versions rather than Java edition. Idk
Nope, I watched DanTDM only & played the Xbox 360 version.
The shading and old textures of Console was so good we need a Java mod to put those shaders into Java
That exists. One for bedrock exists too. Just google 'minecraft console edition resource pack'
You can kind of do something similar, I forgot the video but there is a way to get something kind of close to it. Its for sure not the same but close enough if you want that experience kind of
I think there’s a mod pack that turns Java into console edition. I don’t know what it’s called tho
I love how the only 2 responses are from people who just say it’s possible but can’t remember, very helpful lol
@@jblockminermc5401 Yeah because I did forget and didnt bother to look it up
The Mario world on the WiiU Minecraft was one of the best things back in the day. Really loved that version.
Can we just appreciate console edition’s menu/UI sounds tho? Like they were so satisfying and fit the vibe of Minecraft so well, I’d take them over Java and bedrock’s clicks and silence any day
Yesssssss
On the ps4 you can easily go between modern bedrock and 'legacy' which is forever at the 1.14 update, and it looks and plays so much better than the current bedrock.
a shame that us console players have to play bassically a port of a mobbile game on our consoles, all the consoles together and mabye even pc is a great idea, as long as it is built using legacy as a base, but phones will only harm it due to developers having to lower the graphics and other stuff to make it work on phones
bedrock is just pocket edition by another name in a platform where it compleatly wastes it´s capeabilities, see a new, updated cross platform legacy console edition to all other consoles may be a pipe dream, but hey, dreaming is free!
ur dreams and everyone's will come true soon dw
@@RafanFarooquib i also hope so comrade...
yall need to know minecraft really wasn't made for consoles at all
I always felt like Minecraft Bedrock looks like a mobile game
bcoz it is
so does java.
@@SmitePlayz_ do you think so?
It IS a mobile game. They ported Pocket Edition to console and Windows and called it good
@@valleyforgeproductionsI hated when they did that...also, bugs became a lot more frequent on Bedrock Edition as well EX: (split screen is a buggy, zoomed in mess).
Makes sense why the console ports of Minecraft are incredible, 4J also did the amazing port of Oblivion on PS3.
my hot take is that xbox 360 is better than an RTX 2934023948203498240398 92381203498109482309482048203GB RAM CORE i192308129312 PC . i booted up a world on 360 superflat with 7 layers of tnt and lit it up and suprisingly it didnt crash
The game try’s its best not to crash by limiting the amount of explosions and block updates at a time to avoid a crash do the same with a superflat but with sand and air blocks with no bedrock below it then break a sand block the sand that falls will slowly do so with a few at a time until they despawn (or reach the bedrock floor and become solid again) in the void so that the game doesn’t crash
Idk what point you're trying to make here, i think you're trying to say preformence on 360 is better then pc??? Java isn't exactly the best coding language for games and bedrock is optimized for phones so they look worse compared to the 360 port which was designed to run on a 360.
just a joke man 😂
@@TechComplexity a terrible one tbh
I like how it was actually optimized for each console. Now it’s the same exact copy paste no optimization for specific consoles
Old console minecraft is just so much better than modern day bedrock. The old textures, short view distance, simplicity just had a vibe that was unmatchable.
Agreed, I remember building a map and I called it "haoutested house" (It was supposed to be haunted house)
i think many problems that minecraft hs rn come from the fact that someone higher up (likely above mojangs leadership) wants bedrock and java to the equal so the can end the java edition.
That's probably microsoft I think
Overall, the solidity of console edition was better.
When they replaced it with bedrock, they made a horrible mistake in my opinion.
I think they should of made Bedrock feel and look like Java before making the replacement.
This kinda reminds me of the 1.9 Update, and how it split the community when it came to PVP.
Overall, so far I believe Bedrock will never replace Java Edition until they decide to make a move to fix that issue.
And that's likely never gonna happen now because of the choice they made back when they replaced LCE, all we can do is wait on them, or
the community makes an alternative.
There is actually been some work with a decompilation of legacy console edition, so I can see a revival of it.
I saw some netherite mod for it, and a mouse & keyboard mod, so yeah, do what you will with that information.
they’re working on making Bedrock more similar to Java. It’s been happening slowly, but overall they’re way closer than they were 5 years ago
pretty soon, the biggest feature difference will be spectral arrows
Honestly in disbelief rn and what I’m wondering is cuz c814 got kicked out did 4j get abandoned
I’m not sure tbh, but it’s very likely that 4J weren’t told about bedrock and their version being discontinued since just months before they were teasing future updates and minigames
@@kodekYT now I feel Microsoft is hogging all the credit think of it c814 got kicked out because he wouldn’t share him music with Microsoft and then they still use it and Microsoft is acting like they did everything with bedrock when really they took features from the old editions
@@TheRealHFDarkWorld who tf is c814??? it's C418
@@龗 got a bit mixed up it’s hard to keep track when you just well I don’t even know anymore
C418 made a comment about why they wouldnt let him continue mkaing music, i forget what social he made the comment on- but it was something about mojang wouldnt let him own the music, like once he created it from now on they wanted to own it and have the rights toit (most likely for copyright claiming etc so they can make more money)
Console edition had one thing that greatly helped it become superior too. It respected java. It understood its position and did not try to be a thinly veiled replacement. It knew its place and worked well within its bounds and become exceedingly great within. It wasnt THE Minecraft, but an extension or retelling of it.
Console Edition always felt like it was stuck in time (in a good way), they weren't getting much mob and item crossover and the color tone being closer to the beta versions makes it a good time capsule without having to actually use og Java Edition.
minecraft nostalgia heads will convince themselves into thinking things like no FOV slider was a positive thing
That's because it was a positive thing
@@richardcheese6161 you're a prime example
@@Napoleon_e2 you wouldn't get it
Actually I think Java is already stopping being the main version. When you play bedrock the title just syas Minecraft, but on Java it says Minecraft Java.
Java Edition will forever be the main edition and to say otherwise would be a lie. Bedrock Edition, at its heart, is a mobile port.
@@JoBot__ Mojang Gaslighting moment
Microsoft probably makes more direct money from Bedrock because of downloadable content but most of the free advertising seems to come from people playing modded Java on UA-cam. Without Java both Microsoft and Google/UA-cam would probably lose alot of money. Microsoft probably wants to leave Java behind but can't afford to and is trying to gradually push people onto Bedrock so that it's more financially viable. I'm not an expert but that's my theory.
@BlooperslNCjr it’s not a gaslight, Mojang themselves said that they won’t stop updating Java
@@justaguy2183 I know, but I never said mojang would stop updating java I’m just implying that there trying to make it seem like the definitive MINECRAFT experience is bedrock because they simply titled it MINECRAFT without Bedrock Edition being below it
I could go on for hours about how this stupid 360 port changed my life
The part where you mentioned that anyone who grew up with Legacy edition can recognize screenshots taken from those games, mmm absolutely brilliant. I grew up on XBOX 360 edition and could tell apart by the shading and saturation if it was XBOX ONE, 360, other, mobile or Java. I have never seen anyone point that out before!
So beautifully put in such a short video, thank you for expressing something I too have noticed but never been able to fully articulate myself.
I grew up with both Bedrock and Console editions. I have very fond memories of both. But the version I love the most is the console version.
Fun fact: 4J makes smashing ports consistently, for example Perfect Dark for the Xbox 360.
their banjo ports dont get enough love they are very good
@@yoshiswagdust I love Banjo
man loved 360 minecraft playing with friends after school making friends in school over a game.
You know, first video ever seeing of yours. I can appreciate the 4 mins, no need to fill it with unnecessary fluff, this was to the point! Great stuff
First time finding this channel and man this was a good video. Keep on making bangers like these! ❤
Honestly, console Minecraft n' Java around that time was peak Minecraft. I really miss those older versions, man. I miss when Minecraft was fun for me and when I had friends to play it with. Now they've all either drifted away, aren't interested in it anymore, or just can't find the time.
I feel like you should have gone more in depth with this video.
Give some examples and go into those examples and see what they did right from a user, gameplay, and game design, perspective as well as a player perspective.
Go over the different ways 4J split from majang and the ways they stuck to mojang.
Maybe make another video on this topic in the future that goes over the strengths that are present in LCE while acknowledging its faults and the bugs that could be considered worse than bedrock.
Great video overall I just wish I went more in depth on the points being made because otherwise it feels more like a nostalgia trip.
Been playing 360 edition before I go to bed. The feeling that game creates is very unmatched, I can’t even put words to it, I’m just glad I can kinda revisit those days.
you cant explain, but you can feel when a game is made with love
I just randomly installed Minecraft in my old PS Vita, 480p, 30fps and struggles to generate world, but I had more fun and have been playing it more frequently than the world in my pc with 110 fov, +100fps and shaders
A 4 minute video about a guy stumbling around his words, repeating the title of the video over and over, just to end it while never actually properly addressing whatever point he ever was trying to get on to stating. Amazing. Definitely on THAT side of UA-cam, again.
Yeah I'm a bit confused. What even was the point of the video I feel as though it wasn't really articulated well enough
2:05, he did address?
Bedrock had its name changed to just Minecraft cause Bedrock is on more platforms and they wanted people to know that it's cross play on all those platforms cause its just Minecraft. And Java got the Edition cause its a PC thing.
There was a certain magic that happened when playing on the OG Xbox 360 edition of minecraft... From the music to the earliest blocks, it was truly an experience especially with friends
As a PlayStation user, the best thing about the better together update was being able to move worlds from your PlayStation 4 to PC, and with the option to transfer PS3 worlds to PS4, i was able to move some of the worlds i have stored from back when i was a kid and archive it to my pc, forever available for me just go back and re-experience childhood memories. Yea, it feels different, but still a good way to preserve memories.
good video! 👍
I just think java doesn’t necessarily need to be the main version forever, I think if they did another version but that was actually good and not made for cellphones it could replace java and make everyone happy aswell
I really like Minecraft Bedrock on PlayStation. I know people say it’s bad, but I’ll still be playing it for years to come
“You’re just jealous I’m getting my own movie and you’re an annoying character in an annoying movie”
I remember I specifically would boot up my Wii U version of Minecraft for the battle minigames. It was cool to talk with people on a console and be able to split-screen the minigame with my brothers too
This video is actually great! New sub >:)
Tbh I like hearing about people talking about console edition because I didn’t grow up with it, so I feel like I missed something, BUUUUUUUT I AM THE GUY ADDICTED TO SKYWARS… like on the hive because I like bedrock pvp a lot :I
But console edition still sounds fun :D
As a someone who’s first Minecraft years were on the ps3 back in 2013ish, the console edition feel can never be replicated, which is something so good about the ps4 version of the game which allows you to switch between bedrock and console. Aside from that though, I played console bedrock for a while until I recently started playing Java. Frankly, if you just like the survival experience of the game (no mini games, servers, maps, etc), I’ve noticed that regardless of what edition I play, it’s still the same experience. I was never someone who enjoyed even the texture packs on console edition, let alone any mods or changes to the game. While java is superior in many, many ways, if one is just looking for a survival experience, with maybe a friend or two, you get the same impact on Java and bedrock.
I miss being able to preview Mash-Up packs on the Xbox One Edition. You could play for as long as you wanted, but if you left the world or logged off, it would restart and you'd have to preview again.
When I was a kid, I didnt have java nor pe, and I only had the legacy console edition on my ps3. It was amazing to play it, but I always felt kinda left out because I couldnt download mods, maps, etc that I would usually see on yt. And i also couldn't play with friends. Still, it was amazing, and I remember all the gradual changes, and used to get happy for all of em. For example, when they finally added arrows sticking to ur characters body after getting shot, or the addition of the iron trapdoor.
I hate people that are like, oh bedrock sucks, like why can't we just say there equal, instead of just making everyone mad.
It’s a buggy mess, and Mojang is literally screwing people over since you can’t even buy Java on consoles. There is so much different, that a dedicated update for parity still wouldn’t be enough to make them equal.
I play bedrock but I have to admit it’s pretty buggy.
@@jotaeanimations6183 IT IS BUGGY 😂
@@call_dawall9131 yeah it would be hard, or literally impossible because bedrock is on c++ and java is in Java of course.
@@call_dawall9131 I don't know if my reply went back pls reply saying it's there if its there and if you say it's not there I will rewrite it.
People say that i like old textures because of the nostalgia and rose tinted glasses, thing is i really do like the older textures more. Since the update aquatic released and changed the textures ive hated how they looked and never changed my stance, i even downloaded the old textures with a texture pack and suddenly, im able to enjoy the game. Sometimes people just dont like the new best thing and are comfy and happy with what they have, that for me being the old textures.
Played the ps4 edition of minecraft and it does have a vibe on its own, the best thing about it is how smooth it runs on the console. Now that it turns into bedrock it feels way too off, and sometimes there's a lag spike whenever you put down a block
my switch broke a while ago and i had to replace it. thing is, i had the 4J console minecraft on it and since it'd been removed from the e-shop i couldn't get it on my new one. really sucks because that version was so much better than bedrock despite the lack of updates past 1.12
You can still download it, just go to the screen that shows all the games you bought and it should be there. People still play minigames on it too.
I honestly don't see the appeal on bedrock, when ever I play it it feels like a more lazy version of Minecraft console edition but you can play across multiple platforms and different consoles, the OG Minecraft xbox one/360 edition that I played was clearly well thought, specially the tutorial worlds, dam those where cool, and they really helped me to learn how to play the game.
Minecraft bedrock just have some random annoying glitches that usually kills the players out of no where.
I also always thought that 4J studios would put a lot of more love into their Minecraft version.
the crossplay is why they did it - fewer versions means simpler development, too
also Bedrock has infinite terrain like Java sooooo
the infinite terrain thing I would say is just an excuse, come on let's be real the infinite terrain thing could have been a simple implementation, let's be real Microsoft only did this for the money, they make way more money from the Minecraft store than they did with 4J's version.
The crossplay is also a stupid excuse since they made and have put a lot of assets into other useless games such as Minecraft Earth that could have easily been used to develop these versions, not mention that it wasn't even Moyang who developed this versions it was 4J studios mostly.
5120 × 5120 blocks It's still a massive world.
@@waytoobiased
@@waytoobiased Yay, big files... I am running out of storage.
I never understood why people say bedrock sucks. Sure, Java is better, but that doesn't make bedrock bad. Its like 95% identical to Java.
People say it’s filled with glitches. And while they do exist, it’s blown out of proportion.
the overall experience is worse, specially in survival. the movement. the mechanics, how redstone works, accesibility to mods, etc etc. and this comes from a former mcpe player (i now play java, bedrock on pc and bedrock on phone)
@@MasterMCGS The only change to movement is that you have to sneak to shield.
@@MasterMCGSAs a former mcpe player who played for 7 years before getting java, I agree, bedrock sucks. Skeletons have much shorter shooting interval, shields don't immedaitely work, zombies have a larger range, mobs spawn in bigger groups, you randomly take damage, you can't play with mods, you can't switch texture packs while in game, everything is saturated, all mobs have larger range, endermen can still teleport even if they're riding on other entities, it lacks a lot of java features like the debug menu, it feels clunky, and lot more.
@@chrono9503Shield doesn't instantly work though, it takes 1 second to work
console was my childhood, and when I first played Java I spent ten minutes trying to find where they hid the settings for customizable superflat worlds before realizing it wasn't a thing. I still remember my crappy netherrack base that I made when I was in the single digits of age, and how my sister let me have her base only for me to fill it with whatever cool build I tried to replicate from Stampy's Lovely World, or just cover the outside in fence posts. Even though the world was tiny and I hit the border just by going a few blocks from my house, it was still somehow so big and expansive to me that I never even explored the Eastern half of the map and remember exploring the south side with my brother and getting shocked when some lava we found was turning into cobblestone, only to become more shocked when it turned into obsidian and we spent hours trying to figure out the difference
seeing that one frame of the tutorial world just hit me like a ton of bricks
I love bedrock edition so much
Have fun paying money for some low quality Skibidi toilet mod
@@ChickenJoe-tq6xdthere are free Addons you know.
Just go online.
Also, are you saying that you used a skibidi toilet mod in the first place.
Personally as a cheapskate without a father bedrock is infinitely better, and honestly I don’t care about video quality in a game, only memories
I just wished mojang would fix the many bugs that bedrock edition has, some of them exist for years and they don't do anything about it :(
What’s that got to do with being a cheapskate? You still have to pay for the same crappy unoptimised game on each platform you get it on.
@@jacks559 PlayStation doesn’t give me free perks with their PS+ and PS+ is like 30 dollars and Xbox ultimate is 17$ basically I just can’t afford a new console
While I love bedrock edition, it's the majority of the player base's version and allows for crossplay which is huge, there definetly needs to be some more stand out features.
You have snowy trees, the cauldrons, and the wither which people love. But apart from the bugs being fixed ofc, one thing they need to do is have like tutorial worlds again and make them specific to each platform on bedrock edition, maybe with skins as like a distinction.
I always get nostalgic for the old console games, it is surprising to think how they werent around that long
Bedrock doesn’t suck bruh how much of it have you played? The one bad thing about it is it looks a little oversaturated. I’ve played for years and never had issues with bugs.
Have fun paying money for Skibidi toilet mod hahaha
bedrock is fucking trash made for Ipad toddlers.
Minecraft Gentile edition lmao.
Bruh, the bedrock hate is insane. It's the more commonly played version, and is virtually identical to casual players
Exactly. I play Java more NOW, but I started on bedrock before I even knew there were different versions, and constantly got hate from people for so many things. There are a ton of areas where bedrock is BETTER than java. They each have their pros and cons, but people always like to act superior, which is childish.
because it’s ass
@@ninja_tonyJava and bedrock are both a mess anyway
@@ninja_tonybut we are talking about the console edition in this video not java
I’ll never forget the first time my world got updated to bedrock and i literally become nauseous, lmao. Still I just can’t play Minecraft with infinite worlds, I find it really pointless, I’ve given up waiting for it to return and the methods to make one manually seem really complex. But I also want the new update content so I can’t convince myself to play the old version so I just lost the will to play completely.
Amplified and customized superflat worlds are something I wish Mojang brought back, along with the ability to make FIREBLAST wands on anvils
Through texture packs you can get bedrock to look just like legacy console with performance better than java. Bedrock is more optimized and frankly more convenient
I don't play bedrock edition because the graphics suck xd.
i like the vibrancy of the shades of the game but the textures end up being too detailed that they loop back around to being blurry, at least you can tell apart the ores without needing color
@@AmyCherryLMAO Ong
I remember when the console edition had the minigames, the voice chat and the tutorial maps (with easter eggs) it had a charm
I had access to Java edition when I first started playing the game during 1.2.5 but I always liked playing console edition because it felt like I was “catching up” with experiencing older updates coming out.
The only thing I liked about the console edition is that the vibe felt similar to Java. Bedrock still feels better to play. It’s more smoother and has a better color pallet that makes the console edition feel cheap.
Atrocious take
bedrock's controls are like resident evil tank controls to legacy, and bedrock is nearly impossible to play split screen while retaining functionality (second player's character model collapses in on itself, the third goes invisible, etc)
Minecraft Bedrock has actually better performance than java , bedrock is coded in c++ which is simply a much better language than java.
So wtf you're on , bruh.
It’s definitely written on what is technically a superior system but that doesn’t mean that it’s written better, the coding for bedrock always aims to make everything compatible for mobile and having a “better together” system just causes bugs for windows and console players, in my own experience (of about 14 years of playing Minecraft) Java has always had a smoother operating system both in servers and single player than bedrock has, it’s not about which one has the capacity but how well it’s handled
For Java there is 0 need for them to work to make it compatible to a phone, but for bedrock mobile will always be their top priority since it makes a huge chunk of their revenue
Bedrock definitely has the ability to improve and I really hope it does since console edition used to be my primary Minecraft gaming platform but as it is now it seems they’re constantly aiming to keep it up with Java in terms of updates and have even begun pushing updates on bedrock first instead of going back to the basic look of the game and fixing it
In short, yeah bedrock could 100% run smoother, be bigger an better but it simply doesn’t seem like it will be anytime soon because of the fact that it’s THE money making game and they have prioritize pushing it out and constantly growing it rather than fixing every bug and mistake they leave behind, it’s only when the community gives large negative feedback like when bedrock servers originally came out that mojang and Microsoft will do anything to fix those mistakes, but if no one says anything then they have no incentive to fix it
@@kodekYT 👍🏻
Don’t go around saying bull when you haven’t even tried both games, wtf are YOU on about
@@SlushysSecret i am not Saying any bullsh*t, i am stating a fact .
Instead of getting angry and being an arrogant over A GAME with a random dude on the Internet, try to learn something .
Anyway, C++ which is the language Bedrock is coded in , is Simply much better and lets the game have much more performance than the java edition.
Java is an old and obsolete language code to develop games nowdays,
That's why Minecraft Java has Simply terrible performance compared to his counterpart Bedrock, which is much more light and coded with a better and improved technology.
Source: i know both Java and
C++ languages.
You guys should chill tho , lmao 😭.
It's just a game , getting so defensive it's pretty futile.
You got an point... I guess.
Minecraft bedrock can written on c++ and everything but I can't see what is the better Performance they are talking about agaisnt java (but i can agree when we are talking about vanilla java bedrock totally wins), bedrock has even worse performance when we are utilizing optimization mods on java and has an worse play experience by the strange most things works.
And don't forget about those absurd render bugs and game play bugs where you can die from literally nothing and the messy ui/performance on console (check Nintendo switch bugrock experience lol)
Fun fact: The Legacy console edition was a head of its time. For example, the notch apple gave u fire resistance even back in the earlies versions of legacy console edition, but in java (and bedrock) the fire resistance effect got introduced only in 1.16. Also you could say they had their own kind of recipe book analog before it became a thing.
6 years ago nostalgia hit
My first experience with Minecraft was on Xbox 360, all the way back in TU1. I also played the game on a CRT, because that was the gaming TV in our house. We had a big flatscreen, but that was for movies and cable TV only.
I'll never forget playing the TU1 tutorial world on that old grainy CRT, a true feeling of nostalgia like no other. I was a kid back then and I'm an adult now. Even playing old beta versions of java just doesn't compare in the slightest for me. I miss the old days dearly.
I never forgot custom superflat, it was my favorite thing to do back then.
I still remember trying to build the twilight forest portal in my ps3 world and i was so sad it didnt work
The Bedrock experience is crazy bugs, crashes, 0 fps, dumbass dlcs and laggy ass servers.
Literally, it's almost impossible to have fun playing the game. And the lag spikes still exist in 1.20.81 :(
@@Woooohl Bro i thought the lag was just me on 1.20.81 in cubecraft and hive after using texture packs it keeps lagging sometimes
As I watch this video, I think about the good times I spent with my brother but as life goes on things change, he plays GTA, but I still love to play Java and XB1 Legacy edition. I will always have a spot for these games in my heart. Also, I am playing this version right now on my 4 year old world and I'm going to try to make it 5.
Back then, I wasn’t too pleased with skin packs costing money on console edition whilst you can do it for free on Java edition - however in retrospect, 4J deserved my money for the consistent updates and not attempting to complicate the formula of creating a port, thousands upon thousands of hours was poured into playing on the Xbox 360 edition so I just can’t be mad especially when everyone had trash computers and our only way of playing was on console, which was an absolute blessing.
Bedrock edition has always felt clunky such as menu navigation and just doesn’t feel like any other variant of Minecraft, I just can’t find the words how wrong it just feels to play Bedrock edition.
There used to be a bedrock experience way back when it was pocket edition. There was something amazing in the early days of playing it on a device that fits in your pocked (like versions 0.2 - 0.10)
The ability to quit without saving, being able to actually pause the game, and not requiring an internet connection to change my damn skin was always nice on legacy console edition
I some times try to play bedrock on my console but when I do the menus are really slow and the game is really laggy. Makes me wish i could still play legacy edition.
The desaturated look was because everyone turned up the gamma scale not because that was innate to the old console edition. I used to use it at max gamma but turned it down and wouldn’t you know it has that same or at least similar saturated tone that bedrock has. I’d be inclined to say that design decision wasn’t because 4J just knew it all and how to do it right; it was a variation on the brightness option to prevent the potential of night vision exploit by effectively lowering the contrast of the environments making things like creepers blend in better. Also having a FOV slider is nice regardless
This sounds sort of like an instance of a sort of cargo cult situation (minus the religious nature of it all)
One thing I always liked doing when I visited my friends was playing Mimecraft on their PS4
Our worlds never lasted long, but it was still a really fun experience
i first played minecraft on console and it will forever be my favourite version (even though i like java as well) + ur so real for the bedrock slander
Great video bro. Nice concise and straight to the point.
Now this is an intro that pulls one in to a video!
Nice Video! I grew up playing Xbox 360 edition and it just feels like a great indie game without trying too hard to be better than Java edition. Keep up the good work!
Your take on bedrock is underrated and I couldn't have said it any better. Thanks for bringing light on this.