The Minecraft Legacy Console Edition Void
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- Опубліковано 28 лис 2024
- You've probably seen @spdsyt video about how deep The Void is on Minecraft Java Edition, but what about the Legacy Console Editions of Minecraft?
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I kinda love how you found nothing. It's kinda poetic that, in the void, the only thing you'll find is more void. The absence of anything interesting is, itself, interesting to me.
It's large, larger than life, yet it's nothing. At any moment, you expect something to happen. A glitch, a wrap around, an invisible floor, maybe a whole arg for all I know! But, as you go on, it starts to dawn on you that there's nothing more. You stare into the abyss, but it doesn't stare back.
The universe is indifferent to our existence. It doesn't need us, it doesn't hate us, love us or resent us. It does not think. It does not care about our desire to learn more about it. We could bring every animal to extinction, boil the seas, move on from planet to planet, yet the universe does not care. It never will care. It never did care. Not at its creation, not right now and not during its heat death.
The universe doesn't exsist for us. It only exsists.
It's beautiful.
(Sorry I just kept writing and I think I probably said some stuff that wasn't completely coherent. I didn't sleep tonight and I just kept writing without thinking about the start of my comment.)
this is the most beautiful comment ive ever read
@@SlashedWasTaken Agreed, the pure Nihilism.
@@SlashedWasTaken oh wow really? Thanks! That's really nice!
Ironically, Minecraft directly tells you that the universe loves you lmao
@@coolersnoipah173 zip ya mouth you intolerant obsessed weirdo
The craziest part of the video is the fact that this guys Xbox stayed on for ten months without breaking
How is that crazy?
Judging by 2:04, it's an Xbox 360 S (slim) , which was released 5 years after the original 360 and were generally more reliable than the original 360. Probably reliable enough to be left running for months at a time.
I have the same console as on the video
I'm not sure exactly what Xbox 360 I even have, I've never even heard of "Xbox 360 S" but that's neat. I feel like most Xbox 360 consoles can stay on for a really long period of time without breaking, I've definitely had it on for a lot longer back then because it was the main console I actually *used* before getting an Xbox One S. Funny enough my Xbox One has actually had issues because I left it on for other purposes as well but it's most likely because the Xbox One is a more powerful and stronger console than the Xbox 360 ...meaning you probably shouldn't leave it on, or leave any console on for an extended period of time really lol
@@SlashedWasTakenthere are 3 models of Xbox 360
Core
Slim (S)
Elite (E)
The core was notorious for breaking down with in months of buying it due to Microsoft using cheep parts and a poor design to rush it out of the door. The CPU would basically get so hot that it would un solder itself and render the console unusable. This was the red ring of death.
The s and e models didn't have this issue because Microsoft took their time instead of trying to rush to beat Sony to market.
me when i get the minecraft xbox 360 void autism instead of the being good at math or science autism
I love autism
💀
real
DRILLY GARN47 PFP
At least you didn't get the "uwuing at the idea of being tickled by the ender dragon" autism, or worse, sonic autism 💀
Reminder to passersby: The "biggest number" storable is dependent on number type as well. Minecraft, all versions, use floats, where the biggest number is infinity. The crash at INT_MAX here (which is half of UINT_MAX, the actual maximum storable whole number that sacrifices all negative numbers for more space) is probably due to the map converting the float to int.
it's _half of_ INT_MAX, actually.
Yeah, its kinda misleading. I notice that lots of people will repeat this information, not really understanding how data types work.
@@Simon-ps3oj is it? like isnt it half of the Unsigned integer (4,294,967,296 or 2^32) which by half in the Signed integer, which goes to -2,147,483,648 or +2,147,483,648
just a question, kinda new to programming
@@SDDDP i meant that the _crash_ is at half of INT_MAX.
on ps4, i remember there being an upper height limit as well that you could reach using tnt minecarts. you would get stuck in mid-air, with no way of moving up or down
i think you passed the 511 block limit that normally doesn't allow going up, but allow down movement, but the velocity was probably too hight to apply at 511 directly and made you at like 600ish block or something that now going down was also higher than that 511 block limit
on pocket edition at one point, you could get there by flying in creative. i lost my favourite world that way.
Same with Nether on ps4. If you go above the bedrock you wont be able to move at all
same with 350 and i managed to reach it with my siblings with elytra and rockets
i started flying up on my xbox long ago and i never fell
the children yearn for the void
It’s call was too much
I dont understand what are you referring to can you explain?
@commandercody6737 its a reference to the new minecraft movie trailer
@@localairfrierprovider Not really, that joke has been around for longer
@@commandercody6737 r/wooosh
idk why but the void in all media is always so fascinating. the area where nothing doesn’t even exist, just blank. you can’t picture it and it’s always interesting when different people try and show their interpretation of it
Great video! The reason why there's a floor only on PS4 edition is because it was the last version to get discontinued since it got 1.14. meanwhile all other's got 1.13 (exept for xbox one).
A more efficient way of falling in the void is by riding a falling minecart. They are INSANELY fast and way better than elytras.
Switch also only got 1.12
I hate that one edition only got 1.12 cuz its the version i own😢
7:00 the game knows where the player is at all times
It knows this because it knows where the player isn't and where it isn't the player now is
I thought about this too 😂
i was expecting an umbrella man to pop out of nowhere and crash your game
Interloper mentioned
Lmao that's a good one
Then you hear a Wind chime sound effect- lol
@@RoboPlaysYT when the voices is of the void 😳
*Windchime.wav*
WE GOIN BANKRUPT FROM THE ELECTRICITY BILL WITH THIS DAWG 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Computer science major here: I am not sure why but it is important to note that when your game crashes it is at roughly Y = -107374182, which is exactly half of the 32 bit integer size. Remember though that this value is often parsed as a double-precision floating point value by the game. Coordinates are not stored as integers, so what you likely encountered was a underflow error from a large precision number being implicitly converted into a smaller precision number. This is a bit of an educated guess though :) what indicates this is the error at f8 from time stamp 6:22, where the double value is the lowest range value possible before nullifying out at a -nan value; effectively crashing the game.
The crash is probably a measure to have double precision on the floating point, by capping it to half you dont have to deal with as much jitter
Oh hey doc
Gordon Freeman, in the flesh
Morning Doc
Wouldn't the game crash then, not the whole console? Or like, just kick you out of the world with an error messege?
@@CzariJumpscareOr rather
Every version of the Minecraft Legacy Edition void is personalized.
void is real
This is an insanely good video to have in the background while I force myself to make a branch mine
Noctafly?????
really interesting video, probably really interesting electricity bill too lol
XBox 360 Minecraft is an enigma worthy of scientific study: its glitches, oddities, and unintentionally unnerving atmosphere give such a combination of feelings that are unexplainable.
MC360 is a horror movie that writes its own scares unintentionally, and I love seeing these videos dissecting this strange case of a game as much as I love the game itself.
Maybe next time when you jump into The End's void, take a night vision potion along. Now THAT is an image fit for a lucid nightmare!
*cuts to the video of SpongeBob and Patrick freaking out while riding the kiddy ride*
@tobin2.0 Honestly, yeah.
To each their own, I guess. I've always been unnerved by weird, obscure stuff like that.
Honestly its kinda crazy to me that mojang just lets the void be a death plane. Like, theres no way you can be a proper video game without having an eldrich creature taking root within the void
And i was the guy to take a few hours into the void, all for making a 30 minute long video about facts and glitches. That was unironically the only console i could prove it on before using emulators, which i had not thought about. Very awesome video, and thanks for the credit.
Happy you saw this !! Glad you enjoyed it
I'm so happy people are still playing legacy edition :)
Congrats on 4j for managing to storage the whole damn 64 bit limit without absolutely dying
This should be a very dull topic by all means, the void is silent and returns no answers, it does not yield and spill any secrets despite your searching.
but your passion and genuine interest in the topic is very contagious. I felt captivated by your story and your personal anecdotes in spite of the fruitlessness of your cause.
The video makes me think of a quote from a game called "night in the woods":
"we're pattern finders, and we'll find patterns, and we like really put our hearts and minds into it even if we don't mean to. So I believe in a universe that doesn't care and people who do."
This video could very well have just been: "Nope, there is nothing of interest in the void." but your storytelling and presentation is great! it really kept me hooked during your search and despite nothing facinating existing in the void I think your search was absolutely worth it, as it enabled you to provide us all with an intriguing and genuine little story :)
i sure hope there's an integer limit to your electricity bill
"Do you think if you were falling in space, you would slow down after a while or go faster and faster?"
"Faster and faster. For a long time you wouldn't feel anything. Then you'd burst into fire. And the angels wouldn't help you, coz they've all gone away..."
- Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me
6:08 Those are just the registers from the CPU when it crashed (think of registers like the CPU's RAM), at the top it's normal registers and what you are highlighting is the floating process registers which are only used by the FPU
I don't think the -nan you're highlighting represents anything, it could just be a residual from an early operation that never cleared that register.
What could help in learning whatever the crash is IS the stack trace or at least the instruction(s) for the crash.
I don't know the reason, but I think your rounding guess is a good explanation, it probably just crashes rounding or removing the decimals at the end and instead of doing it correctly, it falls back to -nan and dose wacky stuff (crashing), f10 dose seem to follow a similar pattern that f2 and f5 have :v
I see, thanks for clarifying
I love concept of this video. Its very calming but kind of scary, i want MORE
Awesome. I wonder what would happen if you fell from the max height limit you can teleport to the bottom of the world with slime blocks at the bottom. Taking 5 days to finish. Also falling to the 64 bit integer is a lot of math. Falling for a year would put you at 2,472,422,400 blocks. So falling to the 64 bit integer would take 3,730,500,109 Years and 5.75 Months. Also I’m streaming this Saturday and Sunday at 2pm EST (Delays may happen). So yeah, here you go. Also crash triggers suck.
Edit: By The Way I will say that the 32 bit integer is the bottom. Any further needs to be modified in a tools section and that doesn’t need to be counted.
I believe terminal velocity would simply cap the slime block bounce being at most a couple hundred blocks higher, falling from 10,000 blocks would most likely give you the same result. Crash points/triggers are still very unique in this game though, no reason why it happens and it may not even happen on other Legacy Console Editions, it's fascinating
"1.7e308 is astronomical"
Laughs in Antimatter Dimensions.
at around 5:31 my pc bluescreened
6:31 **
as far as I know you're the only person in the world to talk about this, so congrats
SPD made a vid on this to
@@Grafi444 he didn't include legacy ce, crash points or real time experiments though
@@ReaIbe ture
No way the video is the exact same length of the song The End by C418 and the video uses the song
I play WiiU and months ago I found a way to desync which End Island while in creative mode, by boats and the end gateways, then riding it into the void and falling. I never checked to find out if I could go invisible because I’ve never used the cheats menu, but I at least got to -50000. I didn’t have the time to fall farther, because I wanted to play other worlds. I was able to replicate this a second time to continue falling. I also took videos. With either the desync of the islands or falling in the void, or both, I found a couple glitches. One was that if I dropped an item, it would reappear in my hotbar, and if I grabbed it with my cursor I would be squeezed vertically. A Second is that the first time I boated through the gateway I was flying in the boat and couldn’t exit, when I tried to place blocks whatever I placed it on disappeared without the break sound effect. Three, I found a way to make most items and even the end sky black by going from glide to the void in one play session. Four, I was pulled into the corner of the end I was in after saving and quitting then rejoining, also bugging out what I saw, flashing the end island across the screen. Five is the player Icon on the map is on the island with the gateway, on the wrong one to my coordinates. And I was able to simply enderpearl to get up and unstuck. If another player tries to enter the end in this state the person falling begins to die. I have not tried this in survival yet, but this is how I figured out how to fall in the end void without invisible or outside help. I’ve found & refound many WiiU glitches and exploits. This is just one.
I didn’t review the footage/photos yet, so that was all just memory reviewing it.
unrelated to this masterpiece of a video but what's the game that appears briefly in 2:22
Fractal Jigsaw Puzzle - thatmichaelpark.github.io/fractal-jigsaw-puzzle/fractaljigsaw.html
Bumping this, 'cause I also wanna know
really cool video! reminds me of how in earlier vesions of the source engine the void was infinite in a similar manner. it had graphical issues, wobbly models ect. this also reminds me of a bug in early vesions of the optifine mod, the rendering engine fails completely at higher distances having similar graphics glitches which are really tripy. i find computers glitching out and stuff like this really intresting. keep up the good content! :D
interesting, thanks 👍
I was screaming 'elytra' the whole time, I'm so glad it got figured out before you had to make a second video 😭
6:38 maybe a floating point error?
If I were to guess why those coordinates crash the game is that some floating point logic code in the PowerPC architecture (the CPU architecture of the Xbox 360/PS3, but this doesn't really explain why it crashes on emulator) can't do math correctly when the floating point exponent is 127 (starts at ±1,073,741,824 and ends at ±2,147,483,648). Do note that 127 is another magic number, it is the highest number you can store in a signed 8 bit number.
Emulators emulate the cpu from these consoles so same problems will appear
I think we found the new best Y level for diamonds
It's crazy enough about the fact that this video took nearly an entire year. Mad respect to you, Mr. SlashedPort.
I thought it would have rendering issues or something due to float inaccuracies, but it uses integers, so nothing happens!
it does happen in java
Nice video 👍,the void is special and I tried myself too, I watched a video from tristangent about a video about the void too.
I used my PS3, when I got to the 32bit integer limit it crashed too.
I hoped that it had some lightning issues and that’s why I tried from myself. From that one video.
Good work 👏
11:05
Yoo!!! That's one of the smallest numbers in Antimatter Dimensions!
Thank you! I was always wondering. You are the only one to explain this
So much respect to someone who dedicates so much time to one video
Legacy Console Edition is so nostalgic..
Also nice video!
This is amazing, and also this gives me daily dose of fall guys vibes, and I didn’t know you could do this, and legacy Minecraft is my childhood man, and also for some reason every time I watch one of your videos, the next day you upload.
Dawg this just triggered so much nostalgia for no reason 9:12
I feel like this could have been a bit shorter as 15:05 just to come to the conclusion it is nothing lol
I remember trying to explore the voids depths before. Got about 500 blocks deep while my brother watched me explore before it was time to sleep. Thought the void was always infinately deep in every version of the game. Never could access the other versions though since I only had an Xbox 360
"I also know everything else about the void."
very ominous sentence, even if you are talking about minecraft
The reason your Xbox was able to run for so long is BECAUSE it was running constantly, since it was never going through temprarure cycles from turning on and off. All Xbox 360s made before 2010 had defective soldering that would slowly crack over time due to heat cycles, and eventually break entirely, causing the vast majority of red rings.
Also, I think the reason there is a physical limit to the distance of the void on PS3 edition is to prevent problems regarding how the RAM works with the PS3, which has been known to cause SEVERE problems with several games, like Skyrim and Fallout 3 / NV.
thank you for your research it was really interesting
This man’s dedication is crazy. Good job!
Interestingly all the crash z values in 8:29 are factors of around 85899346 (smallest gap between two consecutive crash z heights), which is also 1/25th of the 32 bit integer limit
Wow. I remember when I was 11 playing with my friends in one of our creative building worlds and wondering this exact thing myself. I fell for probably three minutes before getting bored and disabling the invisibility, but I never could have imagined this. Extremely well-made video and congratulations.
Oh I see someone else also has a certain fascination with the void as I do! Honestly when I was a kid it scared the shit out of me.
I think it might do the fact that Mojang thought to make the sky have this garrish black bottom half compared to the blue higher half (or just black like it was when the void fog existed).
I remember I had similar dreams too, one that If you fell to the void it would teleport you to a glitchy version of your world, where the clouds would be near the bottom and the terrain generation would be all kinds of fucked. or one that was like a giant pillar which had rings like floors around, and it would keep on going down way beyond where it would start killing you.
Gotta say, its a shame there arent any intersting mods that deal with the void, Dunno if there's a mod that makes the void explorable (apart from the cubic chunks mod), like with islands or stuff to explore, like an area you would go to after the end.
I jailbroke my ps4 just to play the legacy console
pretty sure you just need a legacy console save for bedrock to display the "editions" button and let you play on it, but nice :D
@@charautreal piracy
Honestly, i could try to do this for the wii u edition, im kind of interested in if itll be any different. The 3ds edition might be a lot more different since its a bit older than the other editions so thatll be kinda neat to try also
i love this video so much, the void and going out of bounds captivated me ever since i played minecraft, and the feeling only grows stronger, theres something so interesting about the void, it isnt a feature, nobody created it, it's just nothing, no creepy monster, just static and silence
I wish i could fall all the way down to the bottom, and mine the skybox as if it were made of blocks
BOTTOM OF THE VOID!!!
The dedication of this video is so impressive
Oh wow, I spoke about something similar to this in the comments of AntVenoms newest video about how far you can fall into the void in survival without dying. I didn't know there were people as dedicated as you to falling into the void, amazed your Xbox 360 didn't break! I do have Xbox One Edition, but I think I'll save falling into the void for 10 months to someone else...
My first thought is that since its almost exactly the half way point between the largest possible value, the game counts the positive and negative values in the same calculation, so you can only go half of the value into the negative and half of the value into the positive
@herethere5637 I mean the point at which it first starts crashing
what Im more interested in is what this actually means for the game world itself. could you actually fly all the way back up? does it actually just fake it and keep you suspended at a certain point while pretending to increase the y coordinate? its just weird to imagine how a game can even have an environment that big, even if it is empty
Something interesting happens in the void on Bedrock edition. First of all, in creative you dont take damage, but after falling ~50 block, you hit the void floor. If you teleport below the void floor however, you keep falling, and keep falling and keep falling. You can move horizontally, but very slowly. While you fall, you can see the bedrock layer kinda glitch a little bit. Then, you just keep falling. At least, I haven't found anything other than just falling. Its very odd. Something that would be cool to have some explanation of.
The Minecraft legacy editions were so good bro
i don’t know how to explain it but this video has the same vibe as the expeditions in House of Leaves
I let myself down for more than a month non-stop on PlayStation 3, I even wanted to make a video about it. I don’t know how much I was in Y, but it’s well over a million. And there was just nothing.
man something about the void is just so unsettling
I guess the real end of the void is the friends we made along the way
GENUINELY great video. GENUINELY.
This is like pure art its really good tho.
Ur pm 6:06 era was not really great vids but still great but everyone has a past.
Honestly I imagine my PM Fanmade videos in specific were *decent*, they were definitely more unique at the time but looking back it wasn't my "best work," also thanks
big numbers and minecraft work amazingly together
I LOVE VIDEOS WHERE YOU GO OUT OF BOUNDS!!!!!!!!
Fun fact: you can go in nether void by clipping with a boat at the corner of the world and entering and breaking a nether portal last second in the nether to go the overworld (where the overworld portal is at the bottom of the world) also void collisions are weird (mainly above the void )
I did this on wii u edition tho
Time to go do this on my PS3 and see what happens
11:07 the fact that this number is already an ABSURD but definitely nothing compared to a googolplex its insane, a googolplex is so big that if all the atoms in the universe were turned into zeros for the googolplex, it still wouldn't be enough to cover everything.
It is possible to modify your position and other stats on any other edition of the game, I made a tool that achieves exactly that.
Xbox 360 Edition is actually the hardest to deal with just because of the proprietary compression format (LZX/XMemCompress) it uses for the save files.
As for why PS4 edition has a barrier, I think it's maybe due to PS4 being a new-gen version that supports "split saves" (region files are stored separately from the main save file container) and thus having bigger worlds, they probably reworked the barrier to work on the Y axis, although I might be on the wrong track or wrong in some way. There's not exactly any way for me to tell exactly until that Nintendo Switch Edition decomp has covered that portion of the game.
Great video! But about the text at 13:50, iirc, it is very much possible to use MCC Tool Chest for other Legacy Console Editions like PS3.
Mhm, I believe another comment clarified that for PlayStation and Wii U Edition for Legacy Console Editions
Yooooooo a legacy edition video in 2024 let’s goooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😊🥰👍💯💕💞💖
You have the best random long videos please never die
Keep cooking and don’t stop
fun fact! this video is the exact same length as The End's accompanying music track...
except, ironically, on legacy console edition, where the track was shortened to six minutes and fifty-five seconds.
I always knew on (some) Legacy Console Editions that The End OST was shorter than the actual 15-minute track itself, on older versions it did play the full thing but I'm unsure why it was shortened, I'm also glad someone caught on that the video and track length are the exact same, I did adjust the OST in this video though haha
Excellent video…. Damn.
If would genuinely be cool to try this on bedrock edition, tho you'd probably stop at 2^25 (which is around 33 million) where there's 2 blocks of separation between valid coordinates you can stand on because of single point floating precision, you'd also not be able to move upward or downwards unless you had something that allowed you to move fast enough between those blocks (if you're wondering, at 2^24 the precision gets so bad that every other block in odd coordinates is not a valid place you can be in, and it doubles every power of 2 until you reach the 32 bit integer limit, then the game just crashes)
Ok we need to give that xbox a fudging metal
There are two ways how I accessed the overworld void on MCLE. One used superflat with no layers besides the required single layer of bedrock, village paths removed the bedrock. The other is on default superflat, creative mode, I created a 3x3x3 cube of obsidian and put an activator rail in the middle, filled it up with as many TNT minecarts as I could (this was on PS4 edition, so it may have a higher cap than xb360), I stood in a hole beside the cube (elytra crawl, so only one-block-tall) and pressed a button to activate the minecarts, then I looked straight down before the minecarts exploded, it teleports me down through blocks.
There's just something so fascinating and terrifying about an existence where you just fall, forever, while nothing changes.
infinite void lol
Gojo
The game will break eventually when the engine crashes for being unable to handle giant values or due to floating point precision loss.
14:36 Minecraft suddenly turning into LSD Dream Emulator is crazy.
underrated as hell man..
also my xbox lasts for 4 hours wth did you do that
when minecraft first came out on the xb360, i remember me and a friend stumbled across a hole in the overworld bedrock, we saved and jumped in, but the second anyone hit the damage plane, the host would crash. really wierd
This video is so good, I was expecting it to become a digital horror webseries (not an arg) at some point.
I just noticed that steve's arm has shading
bro said "32 and 64 bits" and i already know what is going to happen... integer number probably its going to hit it
That’s crazy! I think it makes sense, my Xbox has literally gotten the Red Ring of Death multiple times and i still use it every day. I have actually tried this. But got board after a bit so i just stopped. Cool experiment!
its crazy this only has 5,188 views for the time put into this video, keep up the good work man
was kinda hoping it would overflow and eventually fall back onto the island. That might make a cool mod actually
I am genuinely surprised that I didn't bother trying this given everything I've learned about LCE, very interesting
I manage to escape the world border once on a superflat world on PS3. You can do that by using a boat and the water and entering at the right moment. You will not be able to go far however, since when you'll reach about 6 blocks you will be teleported back to the beggining of the border (you must stay in the boat in order to not suffocate in the wall)
6:19 179.769e308 is the maximum value of a Double. it was overflowing, resulting in unintended behavior.
I never even realized I was watching your channel, Slashed. I remember seeing your notes in "A Dream You've Had Before" while getting Judgement.
yeah i’ve had quite a wild history with that game lol
@@SlashedWasTaken Do you still play it every once in a while? Or have you moved on
Rarely, it's not a game I'd put in the "never playing again" list but it's just something I don't have a reason to come back to, it's not bad there just isn't any replayability to it anymore
@@SlashedWasTaken Yeah, I get that. A couple weeks ago I was thinking about retrying Fate, but the amount of time wasted plus the amount of people that already have it just doesn't make it feel worth it any more.