What if 'Red Dawn' Had Actually Occurred?
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2016
- In honor of 'Homefront: The Revolution' coming out, I'm doing a scenario about the film which spawned it all. Red Dawn. What if the Soviets invaded the mainland U.S? Would the Russians win the war? Here is one scenario.
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“In our age when the US and Russia are best of friends.”
That statement really didn’t age well
And I see old comments how Russia would blow by Alaska and thru the entire US if they were invaded.
Meanwhile in Ukraine a country with a population only fifth of that of US is holding off 200,000 Russian troops. It’s like Finland all over again 😂
It was never true.
It was sarcasm.
I was just about to say this
@@fightingcock6920 well, ive seen videos and explanation that the reason they are failing so bad its because of trash logistics. Russia was 99.9% sure they would take ukraine in less than a week they really didn’t prepare for a long conflict because they thought they would Blitzkrieg through ukraine, well that obviously didn’t happen, tank batallions and vehicles running out of fuel, hell farmers are stealing abandoned tanks because they ran out of fuel, soldiers being lost because they don’t know where to go and the location of a target, and last but not least russia didn’t expect the resistance to be this strong. It’s embarrassing really
You don't invade Russia in the winter, you don't invade the United States on days that end with "Y"
Lol im stealing that
phoenix love sabbath will be
Oh that is amazing.
What about tomorrow?
Lorenzo Saringan tommorow is today tommorow
“Hitler and Napoleon shouldn’t have fought a Land war in Russia, and The Soviets shouldn’t fight a land war in Kansas” got me laughing for no reason.
only in kansas 💀💀💀
Speaking as a Kansan we got enough firepower to stop them without much issue lol.
I can only imagine how bad it got for them in the south.
Just getting through Texas and all those gun owners would have been impossible. Creating a 2 front war (actually 3 fronts) is just suicidal. Their best bet would have to come through Mexico and conquer California West of the Sierras. There's plenty of farmland there they can get food for the Soviet Union and the mountains would offer some degree of protection. Conquering the entire country would always be impossible. Conquering parts of California while still impossible for the Soviet Union of the 80's, is a little more realistic.
@@jimmym3352 I don't know. Back in the 80s California was a very pro gun state. You could get a full auto rifle there. Like, an *actual* is something that you could find at a random gun store in L.A.
Actually the movie says that 600 million Chinese people are ALIVE, it's the other 400 million that died.
The really unrealistic part of this film is that the Soviets are apparently invading out of desperation (due to the famine) but ALSO are winning all over the place.
i mean if a coordinate attack cripple a country enough in the first day of a surprise attack it will be hard to fight back like what the US did to iraq in the first gulf war and since the army could have high more knowing that they are fighting for the last hope of the URSS but yeah once the military understand the situation and rearrange itself they will at less be enough to stop the advance
And let's not forget, Poland rising up eludes to unrest within the ussr itself. So they'd be fighting down revolutions in their own lands among with fighting against China and the US. It's not very realistic
@@F3aredGenocide I guess you could say that the Soviets are just that desperate. Seems that the entire Soviet goal of the invasion was to secure America’s vast food supplies and industrial capacity to keep for themselves.
It wouldn’t be the first time in history desperation and arrogance among leaders have led to catastrophic and counter productive actions in war. Hitler declaring war on the US for example, or even going to war against the USSR in the first place.
The Politburo could’ve been of the mindset that “Kick in the door, and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down”.
If they were under the impression that the US population was demoralised and unwilling to resist. They might’ve been in the mindset that all they’d need is to land ground troops and wipe out some major cities with nukes and the US would just give up without there needing to be a fight at all.
Of course, it had the opposite effect and the Combloc ended up in a costly and ultimately doomed stalemate.
@@callumwebb4927 honestly, this is the best explanation I've ever heard for this
@Bdhd Hshshs hum yes and no civilian even armed stay civilian between what the army have and what you can buy on the market there a huge difference
In America we got 3 things
1.) A shitload of guns and armed civilians
2.) a quite large and advanced military
3.) a police force the size of a military
Eric Salmi dont forget millions of kilotons of freedom and democracy
In short they have too much arm
@@kablamo9409 We have thousands of Megatons of stability
True however to counter all 3,
1) no civilians can offer real resistance to a trained military, it would be very difficult to occupy the country though
2) nukes/just being defeated
3) once again, the military of USSR has tanks/nukes/planes etc. so there’s no way the cops could really do anything
@@teigakunen8944 Best the police could do is S.W.A.T and MPs, but regular officers would be gunned down before they could even get out their weapon
“No North Korea can’t even feed themselves how do they invade North America” is the best quote iv ever heard😂😂😂
North Korea fears South Korea more than the other way around. South Korea's military is so large and modern, they could invade and occupy all of North Korea within weeks. But there's nothing of value in North Korea to get so they don't.
"how do they invade america*" is what he said. North America includes Canada & Mexico too lol
@@AudieHolland or maybe since north korea is buddy buddy with china they don't
Yea, isn't it funny how people are starving? Just soo amusing.
@@epithet052 You must be fun at parties.
Brezhnev's daughter was once asked if the Soviet Union was ever planning to invade the USA. She said no. When asked why, she said, "Your people have guns."
300 million people with 350 million guns...
More guns than people.
@@mr6johnclark ~345 million people actually
@@chrissant6277 close enough
@@mr6johnclark Fair
Yeah but they a tiny little guns used by proud boys losers:) a few cluster bombs and they are body parts lol!
There's a phrase in the book, " Even the bugs carry guns in Texas." Invading there would be bad.
What so a population of armed civilians that probably have no military training, would see of a Russian invasion 🤔 I'd reckon that a massive amount of armed civilians would shit themselves and drop their guns and run.
When a state's flag has the words "Come and Take it" is the same as a defiant roast a Greek gave to a Persian years ago, you know that state is going to be kicking some derriere if they got attacked.
"Mexico just collapses"
*Trump sweats nervously*
trump swets nervously
Jonny B mexico sweats nervously
You mean "Mexico laughs hysterically".
Darth Bernie mexico laghs histericly
And then invests in ladders
TROLLZ LORD im not racist you are "Mexico laughs hysterically and then invests in ladders + spades".
US has been invaded:
Southern States: *YOU HAVE YEE’D YOUR LAST HAW*
Help someone stole my sweet role
JakeTheSnakeFromStatefarm Are you talking present figures or past your talking about the ussr which suggests past but you say has which indicates present
@JakeTheSnakeFromStatefarm that's just the registered ones 😂😂
US has been invaded: everyone in this comment thread: SHITS PANTS
@@craigchrist288 first off it wouldn't happen second off we'd blow they ass to kingdom come
"Western Europe either surrenders or stays Neutral. Except Britain, thanks Britain"
Britain *angrily waving swords* "COME ON YA PANZY!"
Thanks, Britain, glad you got our backs.
"best of friends", that aged well
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I grew up 5 miles from The US Naval Academy. I remember seeing "Red Dawn" when it first came out in a small two screen movie theater in Annapolis.
In the back of the theater were a bunch of Midshipmen. Every time a Russian was blown up, those guys cheered like The USA had won The Super Bowl.
Gotta kill those commies
the USA has never lost the super bowl... no-one else cares to compete
Typical Arregant americans
Mike learn to spell before you throw out insults.
TheMikeShaq5252 We’re not arrogant, we’re just better
The intro did NOT age well
Fun fact, but the country that invaded the US in the remake was supposed to be China but they changed everything in post Due to the obvious problems that would have brought about regarding ticket sales in China
Invade through Alaska? you mean past Canada? the guys with the best Snipers? We know how Soviets handle good snipers who live in cold places
A Bear Punching a Shark canada is a a betaryer.
#WinterWar
The premise is ridiculous as it is. I think the writer doesn't understand how many mountains are in Alaska, and Western Canada. That would be the slowest invasion ever.
Jimmy M
Right... They’d be caught in a choke point between the mountains and ocean for 1000+ miles.
@@jimmym3352 ikr
The Russians would have rushed B
wyatt cowan lol
wyatt cowan CYKA BLYAT
wyatt cowan B for Britain, A for America. Rush A.
R U S H B C Y K A C Y K A B L Y A T *bass boosts into oblivion*
RUSH B NO STOP
“There are certain sections of New York, Major, that I wouldn’t advise you to try to invade...” 😎
-from “Casablanca” (1942)
I'm thinking it would be like A Bronx Tale and the bar scene. "Now youse can't leave."
I know exactly how Latin America built up their Military to that size, they did the old Alex the Rambler and "accidentaly" opened the Console.
call out
"the U.S. is left by itself...except for Britain, thanks Britain"
No worries old boy, we'll keep you nice and cozy with a jolly good cuppa tea
Thanks Britain we have some tea here we dont like it all that much
@@Nz-tm3gs hang on, the USA joined late to BOTH world wars, and in WWII the Red Army fought much harder on the Eastern Front. The Russian's help is often forgotten, so please don't take all the credit for the allied victory
@@Nz-tm3gs joining late isn't a problem- the problem is that most Americans seem to take full responsibility for winning the war, and see themselves as the be all and end all of WW2
"The U.S. Is Left By Itself...except for Britain, thanks Britain" *Core Blimey's Are Heard In The Background As The Commies Get Sizzled Alive By Tea And Scramble To Get The Food Thrown At Them*
@@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 I've never seen a user name so bad and so good...i am truly disturbed
0:13 "before the 50 year staring contest before the Soviet Union blinked."
Well of course America would win, he's wearing sunglasses
LET FREEDOM BLINK
Additionally, they'd never win against the Brits. After Doctor Who made that Weeping Angel episode, no Brit has ever blinked since.
Hagop Kiljian merica sorta cheated but in America's book,sunglasses never cheat!
Hagop Kiljian hacker
Hagop Kiljian, The American guy was smart to wear the sun glasses for the blinking contest :D
Red Dawn was my absolute favorite documentary from the 1980s.
I'd actually like to see a legit sequel to Red Dawn that shows other aspects of America during the Soviet Invasion, like show what the military is up to and the support Britain and China are giving them. It's a shame so many people these days only view this as "Right Wing Pro War Propaganda," because it itself really is just a great film about crap hitting the fan and teens having to survive. The whole backstory and concept is very interesting.
And yes, this movie is Right-Wing Propaganda, and I loved every friggin second of it.
Right Wing Propaganda films sometimes make the best films
Right wing propaganda?
Since when was it that? Its a badass alternate history action movie.
Who is calling it this?
@@concept5631 apparently some people on the internet have been calling it that. Like they’ll call out all the movies unrealistic elements (Teenagers fighting off hordes of Russian soldiers and armor) and claim that “oh Russia has no reason to invade us”. But honestly I more or less like to see the movie the way you said you do: an epic action movie about laying the smack down on some dirty commies. Eh, idk, I don’t think Red Dawn should be so overly analyzed and picked apart, and should be enjoyed for what it is: a fun action film about a group of American Teens fighting off Communism.
@@enclavehere.7995 If they want right wing propaganda they should just watch damn near everything that was made in the 1950s. Anti-commie copium was at its peak then.
They hinted at it in the movie. West coast is cut off. The major Soviet thrusts were halted. The great plains are the main conventional battlefield. Denver, in the middle of it all, is under siege and barely hanging on. The conventional fight is portrayed by that tank battle in the snow. As LTC Tanner said "it's the REAL war, kid. It's here every day".
Dont worry America, we will always be here for u
Not sure if your Profile pic was part of the Joke, but it sure as hell delivered the punch line lol.
As us for you pal. Britain and America are like two drunk dudes who got pissed at each other, fist faught and have been bffs ever since. "This is my friend Canada, he's pretty fucking chill, can he hangout"
Britain: "hell ya bro, let's all go fight evil shit"
i feel like it's more a dad and his son, with the USA coming out of its rebellious teenage phase and actually getting along with it's dad (UK) again.
+Silver_Octopus lmao. That's pretty accurate as well.
America also had help finishing off Britain when France got him in a headlock allowing America to gut punch him freely. The second fight Britain got the first punch in, but America was grown up enough by that point that his counter punch knocked Britain out. Once he woke up, they shook hands, Britain gave France the finger, but then they both helped France kick Germany and Italy's asses. Japan tried to sucker punch America when his back was turned, but then got rocked with a couple of atomic dropkicks.
Is it just me or is the timeline for Fallout actually more realistic than this? At least in the Fallout timeline, NATO doesn't collapse "just because".
yea
yea because this is super unrealistic timeline it would never in any real life senor possible happen
yes as what they done would nuke them
Nonsense, all the going hot scenarios that were played as wargames by U.S. And Nato armed forces where played off under Russian detente, was that America/Russia-Warsaw Pact countries would be icy to one another, trade, send envoys and cultural exchanges but would fight their wars in small skirmishes to either topple or puppet a country. Thus the reality is the believable scenario of Red Dawn is possible, believable and would have happened eventually if not for sudden shifts in ruling factions inside Russia to change outcomes before they went too hot. I suggest watching the History of the Cold War produce by the BBC(I think it is 14 episodes long), as everything the U.S./NATO/Warsaw Pact did was to fight WWIII but on a small scale and without nukes. Hence the term Cold War, because there was a war, it was just a proxy war. If you investigate the actual events of the Cold War, you will sorta laugh at Fallout as to it's bubblegum history. Fallout is mostly influenced by a Collier's magazine in the 1950's ran speculative fiction pieces about nuclear war, it's out come and it spawned the whole genre of post atomic fiction. Read if you can Starmans Child by Andre Norton, half of Fallout Comes from that and the history parts are taken in sections from several sources and one is Coilers the War We Did Not Want, instead of Russian place Chinese. The Chinese invading part is taken from Robert A. Heinlein's 5th Column. It's a mish mash of various previously played out to nearly death but lovable tomes and great concepts. In fact, thank gawd Bathesda sucks at doing their Post Atomic speculative fiction research, the game could be more rich. I hear Radlands has a better story line, then again for plausible Russian/USA scenario would be A Boy and His Dog.
+Steve La Dedha Wow, some actual thought and use of historical events, unlike the O.P. of this channel who just pokes at a presidential candidate and compares a video game to reality without any background of history or military strategy. Well done.
“Today, Russia and the US being the best of friends”
Watch this today 😂
That comment didn't age well....
"How do average Americans deal with WW3 if it happened to come to their doorstep?"
Average Americans: "So anyways I started blasting"
You say Russian paratroopers are in the air.
I just hear someone yelling "Pull!"
It will be like new years or the 4 of July but instead of fireworks it's bullets
@@matthewrodriguez9746 Shooting at paratroopers is a warcrime tho.
After such incident soviets would reconsider who can be designated as enemy.
American civilians could've been targeted by missiles, CAS planes, attack helicopters and etc.
It's all ''yeehaw'' until it's not.
@@lovepeace9727 I know that why I said it.
@@lovepeace9727 Ngl. you seem like a real gullible person rn. No one gives a shit about the geneva suggestions and all its rules. Countries like the US as a matter of fact still use tons of weapons that have been banned by it and so do the russians. Shooting a paratrooper may be a war crime but its just like a speeding ticket. Most officers will give you a warning and thats it. There are things in the geneva convention that are simply dumb in the eyes of everyone that signed it and therefore no one follows them (like paratroopers having some kind of protection just because they cant defend themselves whilst airborn) as a matter of fact the soviets did just that in several conflicts. Also no country besides north korea would start a nuclear holocaust over paratroopers being shot. On top of that its impossible to gain air superiority on US soil. So any mig/su that invades US airspace would be shot down befor they could drop any FABs on even the smallest shithole. Same goes for attack helicopters. Attack helicopters can only be used if either air superiority is already taken or during a large scale offence with air, ground and naval troops engaging at once and even if all of this would be the case, attack helicopters are still very easily shot down by small arms fire or GTA missiles, even a stinger could take down a KA-/ or MI-/ fairly easily.
That1germanbritishrussianusamericanGuy Geneva suggestion am I right?
USSR: *invades America*
Vietnam Veterans: *what did the VC use trees for again?*
Wrong China and the USSR helped immensely. Plus they had Laos and Cambodia to run away into.
USSR reaches West Coast redwoods: "Those are some big talking trees..."
😂😂😂😭😭😭💀💀💀💯💯💯
Normie
@@Thunderchild-gz4gc Wrong, China invaded Vietnam in 1979
0:00 - 0:03
That one didn't age quite so well
since the Russo-Ukrainian war arc got released... im 101% sure that Russia will not get an inch in American soil
Well thats after USSR split, but if there is anything that would most likely be true it would be the quality of troops/ morale/ and supply lines of current day Russia vs Ukraine, just more massive on the scale with soviet block countries pitching in their own troops into the conflict.
“Do you hate communists and want to make sweet love to America? This is the movie for you.” -Brandon Herrera.
You sexy UA-cam mother lover
I want to make sweet love to an AK-47.
“Make sweet love to America?”
Gun owners: YEE HAW
I don't get how he can't review the legendary original red dawn not the the 2018 spin off
@@ryderrios5416 he did as in Brandon Herrera
_"They wouldn't just come and invade us right?"_
_"Nah, lol. We'd just nuke em."_
- Conversation between two 4-star Generals of the US Military at the height of the cold war.
Well, that intro age to like milk
“Us and Russia are close friends” aged like milk
Spoiled goat milk 🥛
But the joke has aged like fine wine.
I remember reading an old interview with the Nikita Khrushchev and he said if Russia were to ever go to war with United States it would be purely nuclear, because every scenario they war gamed with a land Invasion ended in failure. Because the American people are so well-armed.
***** Yep!
theylied1776 more like USA military is so well armed and the logistics wouldn't work. Just like similar invasion by USA to Russia would fail miserably. USSR, and Russia now, are far too well armed, have far too much man power and are far too big to logistically manage to supply an invasion.
What weapons civilians have in peace time is irrelevant, since in total war situations they would be immediately supplied with military arms.Far example all Texan civilian militias people talk about making Texas impossible to invade? there would not be civilian Texan militias. USA still has draft law in place. All those civilian gun owners would be called up and suddenly Texas has a pretty huge State Guard. they would be supplied with laws, tank mines, machine guns and other serious military hardware. would some of them have their civilian AR-15s, probably, but it would be least of their arsenal. Both USA and Russia have such massive stockpiles of basic military gear, that what civilians have is meaningless, when both nations can easily fit out millions and millions of soldiers with full military gear and weapons, so you get nowhere near the civilians before facing an impenetrable wall of soldiers.
what makes USA un-invadable is it's sheer land mass size and two big moats known as Atlantic and pacific oceans between it and anybody even remotely wanting to attack it. there won't be a land invasion, since USA Navy will sink the invasion far before it gets to shore. Either Canada or Mexico would be taken out by USA well before invasion through them happens. Despite what everybody says, there certainly is plans ready for this, USA has far too many war planners on payroll for someone not have wasted couple years for planning those scenarios. You always plan even for the. most remote possibilities, you just never talk about those plans out of respect and diplomatic sensibilities.
For example I'm absolutely sure that somewhere deep in the military archives (under couple tons of bed rock in a deep dark storage cave) here in Finland there is defence plans for fighting defensive wars against Sweden, Norway and Denmark and also against NATO (obviously there is a plan for Russian invasion, the one thing considered even remotely politically possible to happen). Even thought we are best pals with other Nordics and have good relations with NATO. But that is just something you do, when you are a military planner. You plan for every logistically even remotely possible situation regardless of political situation, alliances and treaties and cultural ties, because you always plan for the worst. You basically assume that a crazy maniac dictator gets in power in your closest ally and then plan for it.
There is also USA plan against Russian invasion attempt. It reads "note a) our Navy and air force will stop them well before mainland. b) National guard will easily mop up any of the neglibly few troops to make it to mainland. note c) Russians would never be stupid enough to try this in first place."
***** You're referring to something different, what you're talking about is a conventional War. What Nikita Khrushchev was referring to was Russia didn't have a "Contingency Plan" for invading America because of the amount of guns owned by American citizens and their willingness to fight. There are almost 400 million guns in the hands of private civilians. Not to mention the millions of guns just sitting on shelves in gun stores.
When you attend a private Military Academy, Annapolis, West Point, Air Force Academy or one of the military War Colleges you write papers about "Contingency Plans" and strategies for invasion. Contingency plans are only implemented after a conventional War, after a nation's armed forces have basically been decimated but the government has yet to surrender. Basically every country comes up with contingency plans for invasion but Nikita Khrushchev was talking about how every scenario Russia came up with ended in disaster because the American people were too well-armed and too willing to fight.
theylied1776
+Ari Takalo it's not similar to the US invading Russia. But the reverse is so impossible it's not even worth discussing. For the US to invade Russia we would simply have to bloat our armies and get them into europe, which is not something we couldn't do.
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My one and only actual gripe with the movie is that: in the movie it is stated that the Russians had captured Texas… how do you capture Texas and THEN and only THEN, do you get to something difficult.
Anyone here in 2022
😆
Turns out all of Ukraine is full of Wolverines
America: Gets invaded
115 Million Gun Owners who have leftovers to arm the other 215 million: I'm gonna do what's called a "pro-gamer" move
BIG IRON ON HIS HIP.
@@humbunger9379 hah commie
Of course, most of them would be too scared to fight. Or just lazy.
To be fair invading any country whose population doesn't actively hate its government leads to similar scenario. Its just easier to train and arm Americans since you know 'MRICA!
It's more weapons in America than people..
On behalf of Texas, I'd say we have the fire power of some major countries down here. Also, the gulf probably has many US submarines, as well as countless military bases
and oil
@@sub-brotherhood8990 Amen brother. Amen
Don't fuck with Texas
And having the firepower of some minor nation isn’t a good thing
@@davidszczepan5855 When youre getting invaded....It fucking is a huge thing.
00:54, "North Korea can't even feed itself. How are they going to invade America?" Lololol
"The movie itself does take place in an alternate timeline. The Soviets are starving."
Well so far I don't see any differences
Actually in the 1980s we didn't starve
@JayPlaysStuff sorry, it's easy to confused which human rights atrocities happened under which dictator when they have had so many
So ... it's not a famine per se. However, consider an EXTREMELY bad wheat harvest; possibly brought about by bad farming practices dictated by the Central authorities in Moscow. (It was ALMOST that way under Khrushchev, when he ordered corn to be planted instead of wheat, hoping to duplicate the fields of Iowa corn he had witnessed in his tour of the US. Clue for you city folk: corn and wheat take different growing environments. You can't just plant corn when you have no experience growing corn on a large scale and expect it to turn your land into the next Iowa.)
The movie takes place in the late autumn -- school is in full swing as well as the football season. It means that the wheat in Colorado, Kansas, etc. would have been harvested and is being stored in wheat bins waiting to be transported to mills. In a lightning strike, simultaneously taking out major metropolitan areas in the east while dropping paratroopers over the plains and foothills of Colorado, Montana, etc. (note: the paratroopers did not drop out of commercial airliners. The planes carrying the paratroopers stayed close behind the commercial airliners, so they'd show up as one blip on the radar screen, thus sneaking into American airspace.) IOW, the plan is what the Irish would call a "cattle raid": capture the bins holding the wheat, bring in the equipment needed to ship it back to the USSR, rinse, repeat.
You might even be able to grab a bunch of cattle and/or hogs to supply meat to the people at home. If things worked out as planned, within a week and a half, maybe two weeks, a majority of America's food supply has been stolen to feed the hungry Russians, Cubans, and anyone else that was already on the USSR's support list.
@JayPlaysStuff - actually, up until the early 80s, starvation/near-starvation was a regularly recurring problem. Those of us who followed things knew that, finally, the Soviets were *starting* to get a handle on it, but the Soviet pull-out from Afghanistan was, essentially, 'the beginning of the end' of the Soviet Union, as it - essentially - was the government's admission that they weren't all-powerful, nor all-knowing, nor always right.
At that point, the 'Russian bear' was, to all intents & purposes, just waiting for the hunters to close in on it and finish it off. The 'hunters' could've been anybody/anything! (ie.: military coup, popular up-rising, invasion by a 'supposedly friendly power', general food-supply collapse, or a combination of those or various other 'stressors') If the war in Afghanistan could've been ended with *any sort* of 'negotiated settlement' ... the USSR *might've* lasted several years longer!
@@ephennell4ever
Yes, there are still idiots who yell "Syria is the second Afghanistan!" "Putin has lost Russia!"
The idiots do not even realize that there was a fulfillment of the contract, as in Afghanistan, and there is no question of any incapacity that appears to idiots with nice dreams.
"North Korea cant even feed themselves, how did they invade us?" 😂😂😂
realistically though 'Kimmy' just lets his people starve so he along with his inner circle and the military can stay fat and happy
It was originally China but the studio didn't want to offend them with demonizing the Chinese thus alienating those customers. It would've affected the gigantic Chinese box office movie market since Hollywood is bending over backwards to get a film approved through the censorship agency for Chinese audiences. After script excerpts got leaked with sharp criticisms in Chinese news made the studio chose to insert cgi in post production. North Korean flags are animated over China's symbols on equipment and uniforms, Korean banners on buildings, and interior flags inserted in an office. The Chinese dialogue got dubbed to Korean. The original motive of China was that the US defaulted on loans when they ordered repossession because of the debt we're actually in with how much we buy (Walmart-"made in China") made from their cheap labor and factories. The movie stated that Russia is cooperating with them but that's still isn't enough to be believable. "We were initially very reluctant to make any changes, but after careful consideration we constructed a way to make a scarier, smarter and more dangerous Red Dawn that we believe improves the movie." Trip Vinson- film producer. There is little reason or goal to why North Korean invaded is explained. Even if they made North Korea the "villain" they should've reworked it to make it plausible. The original had alliances with Mexico and Cuba though our alliance to communist China isn't explained. What if Russia reworked communism without starvation then with the Middle East and Africa attacked Europe to the US East coast while an unified Korea lead communist Asia to the west coast. At least the movie failed critically and even commercially at 50 million from its 65 million budget.
one dus not simple invade the us you need to feed them burgers
I would have just made it an alternate timeline where the USSR didn't fall. Mikhail Gorbachev does not come to power. Instead Grigory Romanov is chosen. Glasnost and Perestroika never happen. Instead we have no fall of the Berlin Wall, a "happy" East Germany and everything going la-dee-da until the years leading up to WWIII.
You don't have to feed your army if they are taking their supplies from the land, hence strategic importance for Iowa.
"In our age when the US and Russia are the best of friends..."
That didnt age well...
Welp this video aged like fine wine.
I love how the writers of the movie thought: "Yeah, Europe would surrender for sure. Give them a week at most."
"And the U.K?"
*Alexa, play Rule Britannia!*
Haha Britain says we spank the commies
@Sonim Bopish Dude UK Didn't surrender
@Sonim Bopish oh sorry I thought u meant UK my apologies
The downed pilot who meets up with the wolverines sums it up as 'Well I guess they had enough with twice in a century'
Well yeah, with a navy as pathetic as the Soviet’s?
"Limited nuclear exchange" is the scariest three word phrase in the English language.
What about “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”
@@betsydierlam561 Thats the scariest sentence period.
big nuclear exchange
UNLIMITED NUCLEAR EXCHANGE
How about: There's no such thing as limited nuclear war.
2:37 I think it was explained in the movie by Powers Booth’s character that a lot of the US silos and defense systems were sabotaged by Cubans and Nicaraguans who’d infiltrated earlier. It’s mentioned that missile silos in the dakotas had been taken out, so that’s probably why it didn’t turn into a nuke fest. Also, regarding Mexico, they say it fell to a Socialist Coup d’tat, so they probably lay bolstered the numbers of soldiers for the Cubans. (I saw the movie the other day)
i agree with you. The Cuban military would have done the same thing they had done in the conflict in Angola send a bunch of military advisors and a few troops and military intellegence which at the time was far better than the soviets.
Doubt you'll see this Cody but i'd love an updated look at this
Cold war as my science teacher explains: 1 closet, two men, 2 grenades pins pulled, both threatening to throw them at the other
Dalton Fischer your science teacher is dumb then, as the US Army Ordinance says: “Once the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not our friend”
The pins are already pulled, both are detonating regardless even though neither side wanted to end humanity in nuclear hellfire
5 feet apart cuz they’re not gay
@@looinrims most grenades have secondary safety measures such as a lever on the M67 grenade. This lever, as long as it's held in place, will prevent the timer of the grenade to be set off. If you hold a M67 grenade in hand and pull the pin, it will not explode until you release the lever, in the case the science teacher explains, if either of them where to drop the grenade, it would explode. And, by killing the other, it would set off the other's grenade as the other cannot hold the lever without ... ya know ... being alive.
@@looinrims when the pin is pulled out, you are safe until you release the handle on the side, then the safety mechenism is released, causing the grenade to explode in a matter of seconds.
The Looinrims no, it only detonates when you throw it, so your the dumb one
America: Gets invaded
Americans and the 2nd amendment: did someone say we get free target practice?
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Yeah because untrained gun lovers are better than professional military.
Denis Arte no but they outnumber an entire army
@@denisarte419 yes, but many guns and no training is better than no guns and lots of training.
@@denisarte419 because Afghanistan x40 is no problem for any military, just like single real one :>
"North Korea can't even feed themselves how could they invade america."I'm dying💀
The most unrealistic thing about this movie is that Phoenix fell. So many people that own firearms, in such a extremely hub-centric city in regards to highways that must go THROUGH the city, means that Phoenix would either need to be dust or simply has to be bypassed in the rough desert.
He is right about North Korea. How does one invade the U.S. without any food?
Philosophical Conundrum it was supposed to be China but they switched it due to political reasons
Food would probably be exactly WHY they'd invade.
cannibalism
Philosophical Conundrum they would take our food
Philosophical Conundrum Kim John un would have to have the biggest wet dream to even try to invade America.
As a British person I say COME AT ME YOULL NEVER GET OUR TEA
+Diamond Pheanix Yes but they are holding the jammie dodgers hostage the foul blighters
Tim Coy At least we still have the jaffa cakes and crumpets
+Diamond Pheanix i have your monicle bruh
Yeah all the tea that you stole from Asia?
ahahahahahahah get rekt
Thanks to computer simulations we can find out how a small group of modern fighter jets will do against a massive array of WW2 fighters. Only in a good simulation can such wild battles take place, without anyone getting hurt. To me it's the stuff of Sci-Fi.
To whom it may concern, my 3 favorite science fiction art books are :
- Wonderworks by Michael Whelan
- Great Fighter Jets of the Galaxy 1 by Tim Gibson
- Icon by Frank Frazetta
Start of the video aged like milk.
America: *gets invaded*
NRA Civilians: So you have chosen... death?
Soviet Union:Yes.
@@Phoenix_The_HeroHater soviet union: well equiped militay vs cheeseburgers that can hardly beat a soldier
@@atomickolobok353 obviously hasn't seen what the south looks like as of late.
atomic kolobok uhhhhhhhh, fat is better than starving so.... (since were using stereotypes)
Nra?
oh, so they'll just sit around and do whatever they're paid to
I love how 60% of the comment section went full Alex Jones
What are you a commie!? I will crush you with my freedom
@@the4inchslanga765 Send me location, send me location-
They put chemicals in a water that turn a freaking frogs red !
You laugh, but the commies have already infiltrated one major us party. How else would a bankrupt money launderer become a Mandarin Candidate and win?
@@ptelg 😂😂😂
Yes, Cuba is secretly running the United States
'usa and Russia are best of friends'
That sure did age well
A land invasion from Alaska's and through Canada? Not only would take take days to weeks in logistics due to mountainous and boreal terrain, the US would get notice by NORAD and have air superiority.
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I still come back to this video it’s a good video
Damn that opening line did not age well...
The Soviet Union, Cuba, and Nicaragua: Let's invade America!!
The rest of the world: Oh no baby what is you doing?!
America: actually we’re all real tickled to hear you say that
Not only the USSR, but whole fucking Eastern Block and probably GDR and even Yugoslavia.
This is a powerful combination.
@@lovepeace9727 all those troops with basically no supplies. Fun times. I would love to see them try and transport supplies through Alaska, there is a reason why we only really have cities along the coast there. No way they could provide enough supplies through air transport, especially if they are being interdicted by American and Canadian fighter planes.
@@lovepeace9727 no Yugoslavia, though. They were the Swizerland of Eastern Bloc.
Hispanics and Latinos speak Chinese
Cody: *makes a joke at Iowa’s expense*
Me: OMG SOMEONE ACTUALLY MENTIONED MY STATE
Me too. We're more than just the place where presidential candidates eat corndogs
I’m from Iowa to do you go hunting
Not really, no shade, but I don't like killing things. I'm the "catch the spider and take it outside" kinda girl
Wait Iowa is real I thought it was like Wyoming
@@rjstrunk6438 Wyoming is real too, it's where Dick Cheyney was from when he became VP.
Looks like this is about to come true..
Can you do World in Conflict? It's pretty much the same setting but with a different way of how it went down
What if the Byzantine empire never fell
Yep....
They would still rule today... The end
+Juan Arias PLEASE HYPE THIS UP!!!
+Juan Arias He already did one on Rome, Byzantium is basically Rome anyway
+Juan Arias Constantinopla would be the new actual London.
Soviets had a crippling weed famine is what i heard
LOLLOLOL
I heard that they just ran out of Funyuns and had a bad case of munchie induced hanger... :-D
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The intro didn’t age well…
This aged well…
"Trump sweats nervously"
"Trump sweats more nervously."
I don't quite understand that joke
atticus bulan Trump isn't very fond over the Russians.
No, you idiot. It's the idea of an invasion coming from the Southern border. Also it's Hillary who isn't fond of the Russians
He shouldnt with General Mad Dog Mattis on his side
"This'll never happened right?"
American strategists: "Nah we'd nuke 'um"
"What if Canadá atracos?"
"HOLY FUCK, WE NEVER THINKED IN THAT!!!!!"
Attack us
Javier Aravena Actually they have a plan for that. So does Canada.
Javier Aravena America's was originally based on taking out cities w/ mustard gas (cuz it was first made in 1920). Canada's plan, Defense Scheme No. 1, involved a preemptive strike when war was clearly inevitable. Even then however, Canada wasn't likely to win and at the time RD takes place, there is a 0% chance of a Canadian Victory.
They would send SNNAAAAAIK
Looking at this in Mar 2022…
Good recommendation on my UA-cam feed in 2022 lol
Canada 🇨🇦 is here boys we'll fight those Russians with their own medicine "tundra"
Oxi Clean lol yeah
Haha, good one.
Fucking socialist.
Well, the Canadian army sure is a lot "weaker" than the US, but it's still a decent army.
By that I mean, the soldiers and all are well trained. so they might be fairly efficient in a homeland invasion.
Lol you know the saying "Kill 'em with kindness".
Coley Durham are you fucking stupid? If you're trying to prove something, at least spell correctly you dumb ignorant piece of shit.
US:How bout we don’t end mankind
Russia:Da...
Supreme soviet Noob Привет!
Kim jong Un:Lol no
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The original 1984 "Red Dawn" wasn't really supposed to be realistic. You think the US intelligence agencies would just "miss" the Cubans and Nicaraguans mobilizing? Or a bunch of commercial airliners picking up a bunch of Russian special forces to drop them in the Midwest? Or that the Russians would nuke Washington DC and other cities and not have Moscow and others leveled in return? Or that the Russian and Cuban/Nicaraguan forces could survive with no air support or be supplied over such distances with a fully intact US Navy? Or that a Russian army could invade Alaska and then make it to the Midwest through some of the most mountainous terrain on Earth? Or that the surviving US ground forces wouldn't just roll them up the way they did the Iraqis a few years later?
The point was to let the audience FEEL in a visceral way what it would be like if it were to happen here - just the way we were causing it to happen in Central America during the Iran-Contra era. In that, the original succeded very well indeed.
What's funny is that the people who played the Soviets in the original movie were so convincing that people who lived near where the school scene was filmed thought it was real
I read of an incident during filming of the opening scene where a stuntman dressed as a VDV paratrooper was blown off course and landed in a tree. He had to convince locals he was an actor and not a real VDV paratrooper.
if your reading this I hope your having a good day and I love you
+TheTalkingBread oh okay bud I hope you have a new state of mind tommorow
But I'm not gay
You too buddy
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"What do you think would happen if red dawn occurred"
*Slowly loading mags,* *looks up* "What do you think"
Get oofed 47% of Americans have at least 1 firearm in their home, 20% have over 5
mags should already be loaded
satchel jackson he was reloading from the last skirmish, haha
Tyler Rivera 13 here lol AK, AR, AUG, M1A, and handguns lol
What about the other 33%
Although it was much earlier in the the 20th century, it’s instructive to look at the Japanese attempts to invade Alaska. The Japanese also recognized that Americans would defend their homeland, commenting that there would be somebody with a rifle behind almost every blade of grass (paraphrase). Based on my experiences in the military before and after 1984, the scenario is feasible yet not realistic IMHO.
Yeah the biggest omission here is that there are hundreds of millions of privately owned firearms in the United States. There are also probably ~50M people looking for a good excuse to use those weapons.
While correct that those weapons won't be effective against tanks, literally anytime a soldier stepped out of their armored vehicle, they would be taking fire. The U.S. would also have a ridiculous aerial advantage which would deal with armor. A lot of A-10 pilots would be salivating over this.....
The other major issue not discussed much is resupply. How in the world would they keep those armored vehicles fueled / troops fed? Supply lines, if any, would be under constant attack and their troop advancement would move at a snail's pace because of lack of resources.
With all that said, there are actually far easier ways to defeat America. To defeat America, you do it from within. Plant / bribe politicians who are either friendly to your cause or simply so greedy that they won't care. Broadcast propaganda disguised as news 24x7. Convince a significant portion of the population that other Americans who don't believe their propaganda are "the enemy". Turn literally any policy decision into a "wedge issue". Convince your propaganda victims that they cannot trust the government, scientists, experts, or even their own leaders. Finally, further weaken the social fabric and create future generations of supporters by destroying public education. By inhibiting critical thinking in future generations, they will become much easier to control.
Russia: Invades
every gun owning citizen: YEEHAW IT IS
the russians with modern tanks : part of my plan
@@Bober2323 people with rat4s: truth is, game was rigged from the start
@@DuckyTheFox * collapsing america from the inside *
"Yeah..."
This comment section is cringe also republican reds are also cringe
@Liberty Freedom Communism doesn’t exist you nut
Thanks Britain.
Australia and New Zealand are just like "we can help you know, if you want. Were here"
Niel Relatado right because they got independence a little after ww1. U r dumb!
Niel Relatado Commonwealth yes, but independent nonetheless!
Ausys are their own continent so they can make more troops and just go to war and win
TT MINOTAUR Thats not how anything works.
I’m sure that first sentence totally aged well
There would be tons of abandoned tanks and surrendering Russian soldiers or Russian soldiers running over their commanders. The end.
*The Latin countries would never make it past TEXAS!*
*"Remember the Alamo!"*
*The Russian forces would be decimated by the US bombing campaign in Canada.*
*The 3,000+ mile supply chain would be so vulnerable that even the Canadians could stop them.*
Rude.
Yes, let's talk shit about our allies, because that's not why people hate us
@@johnmcmanus2447 Don't worry. America's allies don't hate you. We just hate about half of you.
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Good to know
You think they wouldn't plan for that?
The animation with Britain with the sword and saying come here you bloody commies actually made me have to stop the video because I was laughing so hard
The best part is I fully believe if a scenario such as this played out, Britain would react the same way. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender
Bloody Commies
Funny, we will fight on in war, but we surrender in snow. NEPAL WE NEED HELP SEND SHERPAS
Especially with Thatcher over there at the time. I know she isn't particularly popular over there because of her conservative tendencies, but us conservative Americans like her. I know most people are liberal, so she gets a lot of hate.
Spartan265 yeah
Thanks UA-cam. Very topical.
4:26 as a person who lives in iowa i can confirm nobody would fight for us
Me and many thousands of others.
I live in northeast Missouri those commies scumbags would have to get by us first. No worries man ...
*Vault tech guy:* .. CHOOSE VAULT TECH!
*You:* Okay- Are those cryo pods?
*Vault tech guy:* No, of course not, just step inside, and put your vault suit on!
*You:* Okay-
*Vault tech guy:* CLOSE IT NOW MARK.
*You:* WHA- *Freezes*
Frederick Cubbins, wonder how Fallout 76 will start
JustA Ch4rm3r well from how we saw the trailers it seems we are just going to wake up and leave the vault. it is only a control vault instead of a torture chamber
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Imagine if someone was still trying to put their suit on while in the pod, so they’re frozen either in their undies or halfway done but stuck in an embarrassing position
Unit 01 Worst prank ever Vault tech.
"North Korea can't even feed themselves how would they invade America?!" Lmao 😂😂😂
That's what makes the remake stupid as fuck
Un is a nut, but he isn't stupid. This is a country that built a fake city on the boarder to show "communist superiority" but can't afford to move their troops around their small country causing non military loyalists to do the transporting for them. This is a country who's media claims their leader invented the hamburger and was driving cars when he was four years old...while saying they win every Olympic event, and they have an ICBM that can reach the US. Excuse me while I take news from North Korea with a grain of salt.
What is North Korea going to do after they launch their ONE missile? Oh, it strikes somewhere in the US...but the US has bigger more powerful weapons. NK would not have support from China, and would be alone in a war with the US and it'd be a repeat of Grenada but with an ICBM aimed at Pyongyang, and a ground force invasion of the country soon after. They would not have the forces to beat back American forces, and the war would be over quickly. It's a No-win scenario for North Korea, so there is no threat from the country. We are seeing a repeat of Pro-Iraq invasion propaganda from 15 years ago. They are the most dangerous regime in the world, they are building WMDs, they will kill us if we leave them to their own devices.
Way to fall for fake news and party line propaganda.
It was supposed to be china...that would have made a LOT more sense.
Realistically there’s no way that they would invade Texas that easily
That “Come ere ya bloody commies!” Was the funniest thing I’ve seen in a while.
Youve gotta love how Britain stills takes on half of Europe for us.
🇺🇸🇬🇧
FUCKIN' COMMIE WANKERS.
You Brits hate our guts and are only allies of convenience. Don't get it twisted.
John Smith, oh...
Hayw1re
Really, with the nasty comments on our breeding and happiness expressed when we're hit by natural disasters and terrorism? You don't get take your joy from someone getting hit by natural disasters unless you hate them.