The only thing I don't like about the patch, aside from Baiken getting that much nerfed is how strong red WA is in comparison to the rest. Many blue WA characters cannot really use it reliably and they mostly needed it for the hard knockdown, such as Millia - but red WA still feels the same and even slightly more powerful vs throw attempts, giving better shimmy opportunities... I hope they continue fine tuning these
I think its more a thing of blue WA needing some help rather than red WA needing another nerf. Its hard to know how impactful will the red WA nerf will be, but the round start WA into breaking the wall with a second WA was a thing mainly for red ones. I thought maybe blue WA could get a dash cancel so you could do more stuff out of it, but I'm unsure if that would help Milia in any way for example.
As much as I will miss DP RC as a defensive options, as a Sol player Im kind of happy its gone. Now I dont have to deal with blocking DP into 50/50 from Bridget, Leo and Chipp, even if I also lose a get out of jail free card vs most safejumps (if they dont DP/throw/super OS). This patch made throw a lot weaker, but downback and wait way stronger, so I think Im pretty happy as Sol.
@@sauceinmyface9302 Yes. Thing is, Sol actually fights against negative on-block pressure really well, especially if the opponent's back is to the wall. The reasons for this are a long list but to brutally simplify it he has fast buttons with good frame data and a lot of health for a character that can dashblock. So he doesn't actually mind doing stuff like close Slash into downback and wait or far Slash walk back. When mixed in with pressure resets and throws, this creates a very scary situation for the opponent, forcing them to challenging Sol with their buttons. And that's exactly what Sol wants you to start doing, since his best damage is from a Counterhit or a close Slash normal hit. This is kind of an advanced strategy though, this only works as well as it does against people who know how to fight Sol already, since passive defensive options like FD and fuzzy jump are very good against Sol, but they don't let you directly challenge pressure resets and Sol staying in your face cranking your risc until he either builds meter for a BR FRC high low 50/50 or catching fuzzy jump at high risk with a frame trap.
I actually liked wild assault giving hkd on wallbreak. Would have preferred they just decreased or removed the burst regen on positive bonus so it felt like an actual resource commitment.
Wouldn’t she be a bigger loser since she can’t guarantee knockdown from wall as often? You could use wild assault for hkd and then use the meter for mix. But I’m not a Millia main so idk
@@DeertickDanieleven with it being worse, she still needed it. As a millia main though I’ll take it in exchange for being able to actually run at hc and asuka post wallbreak.
@@DeertickDaniel IT WASN'T REMOVED!!! YOU CAN JUST BURST HIM MID COMBO ON SAFE BURST POINTS LIKE S AND H NORMALS!!! break the law changes is good but only for fullscreen where it's too risky to send eddie becuase he dies for 7 seconds. you don't know anything. Think before you type
Grappler johnny is real
We have deal into grab
Mist dash into grab
And now, unreactable step dash into grab
The only thing I don't like about the patch, aside from Baiken getting that much nerfed is how strong red WA is in comparison to the rest. Many blue WA characters cannot really use it reliably and they mostly needed it for the hard knockdown, such as Millia - but red WA still feels the same and even slightly more powerful vs throw attempts, giving better shimmy opportunities... I hope they continue fine tuning these
I think its more a thing of blue WA needing some help rather than red WA needing another nerf. Its hard to know how impactful will the red WA nerf will be, but the round start WA into breaking the wall with a second WA was a thing mainly for red ones.
I thought maybe blue WA could get a dash cancel so you could do more stuff out of it, but I'm unsure if that would help Milia in any way for example.
Assisting in algorithm! Late to watching this but nice summary on the changes
Johnny guilty man always wins
goddess of failure shaking her fist at the air rn
As much as I will miss DP RC as a defensive options, as a Sol player Im kind of happy its gone. Now I dont have to deal with blocking DP into 50/50 from Bridget, Leo and Chipp, even if I also lose a get out of jail free card vs most safejumps (if they dont DP/throw/super OS). This patch made throw a lot weaker, but downback and wait way stronger, so I think Im pretty happy as Sol.
Down back and wait? As sol?
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@@sauceinmyface9302 Yes. Thing is, Sol actually fights against negative on-block pressure really well, especially if the opponent's back is to the wall. The reasons for this are a long list but to brutally simplify it he has fast buttons with good frame data and a lot of health for a character that can dashblock. So he doesn't actually mind doing stuff like close Slash into downback and wait or far Slash walk back. When mixed in with pressure resets and throws, this creates a very scary situation for the opponent, forcing them to challenging Sol with their buttons. And that's exactly what Sol wants you to start doing, since his best damage is from a Counterhit or a close Slash normal hit.
This is kind of an advanced strategy though, this only works as well as it does against people who know how to fight Sol already, since passive defensive options like FD and fuzzy jump are very good against Sol, but they don't let you directly challenge pressure resets and Sol staying in your face cranking your risc until he either builds meter for a BR FRC high low 50/50 or catching fuzzy jump at high risk with a frame trap.
Great content!
Despite being very sad about the Baiken changes, this patch is good enough to make me pick up a new character.
Somebody ducked Potemkin's HUGE BUFF!!!!
Baiken bros...
Very excited about the Elphelt changes 🥰
I actually liked wild assault giving hkd on wallbreak. Would have preferred they just decreased or removed the burst regen on positive bonus so it felt like an actual resource commitment.
I'm going to miss DP RC but I don't miss Leo's haha
bed bros our character is so cool
@SQuirrel147 do you think the fact that you can't grab DPs anymore will be a problem for strike-throw characters like Gio or May?
thanks for the amazing info
baiken bros we can’t give up despite this goofy stuff 😔🙏
Johnny got buffed but Baiken got nerfed ... i don't know how do i feel.
Sin and baiken were the only rush down characters i used… now i gotta blame the beast and hard main johnny and testament
Give Baiken air parry lol
Baiken will get fixed in October most likely
My Ky lost DP RC but gained the ability to nope out of strike throw, meterlessly. I like this. Should stop getting run over by Gio and the vamps.
This patch got me looking at Testament and Johnny when Slayer finally came out. On top of a few obnoxious things taken out of the game lol.
Potemkin got arguably the largest buff and no mention! SQ how could you lol
im totally for any change that makes elphelt less boring. She was the most uninteresting character in the game by far in my opinion
They really let my man Johnny keep Vault prc no freaking way
wait did you just gloss over the bed's j.s SUCC? shit's crazy.
Ram is eating once more
Elphelt and Testament buffs? Character crisis deepens!
my goat
I play elphelt so I love it :3
Ram is overpowered now
I mean when is she not a little
Baiken stock are at a all time low
I think Millia might be one of the biggest winners from this. She was already strong before this.
Wouldn’t she be a bigger loser since she can’t guarantee knockdown from wall as often? You could use wild assault for hkd and then use the meter for mix. But I’m not a Millia main so idk
@@MagmaSpaceryour right characters like zato, millia, happy chaos kinda rely on setplay so taking that away hurts them more than other characters.
@@MagmaSpacermillia doesn’t get a good knockdown from the wall break unlike other characters like zato and hc
@@DeertickDanieleven with it being worse, she still needed it. As a millia main though I’ll take it in exchange for being able to actually run at hc and asuka post wallbreak.
10:30 noo not wall slmup meta again D:
Less reward for wallbreak + less burst regen = a horrible time
now give johnny dash block :) and he will be complete
Where are my ram buffs daisuke 😡
Testament got buffs and they were already ram but better
Testament has never been better than ramlethal in pro play
Wow ur spittin
@@sKinCollector sKin making good on their Rottom 1 propaganda duties, we love to see it.
This is a joke, right? You made a joke here.
Uhh second ig
It's incredible for everyone but zotto. he was the undisputed worst character in the game and got the least amount of buffs
His biggest problem by far was completely removed and the break the law change is great tf do you mean least amount of buffs
@@DeertickDaniel IT WASN'T REMOVED!!! YOU CAN JUST BURST HIM MID COMBO ON SAFE BURST POINTS LIKE S AND H NORMALS!!!
break the law changes is good but only for fullscreen where it's too risky to send eddie becuase he dies for 7 seconds.
you don't know anything. Think before you type
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