Stokely Carmichael "We Ain't Going" Speech
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- Civil Rights activist Stokely Carmichael riles up the crowd with his "We Ain't Goin'" speech. Excerpt taken from Great Speeches Volume 8 from Educational Video Group, Inc. available at www.evgonline.com
Speech begins at 1:45.
Seriously i love Stokely Carmichael.
Thank you!
Ty
*Kwame Ture
You're the best
Read The*QURAN* the world's Love ; become a true Muslim. Discover 
I remember watching footage from an owner of a black book store in Harlem during the 60s or 70s and he said it best: Black is beautiful; Black isn’t power. Knowledge is power. You can be black as a crow or white as snow but if you don’t know and you ain’t got no dough, you can’t go and that’s for sho’
How many people listened to that statement?.
That's a powerful statement
Black power mixtape
I am a white, heterosexual, male. When I was a much younger man, this sounded threatening to me. I grew up in the white middle class bubble. Now, in my early 50s, Kwame Ture's words speak loudly and clearly. So much to be done and so far to go.
Tommy Rock TEACH YOUR CHILDREN BETTER.
@@skoobylove1971 Trying to. Also restoring the Voting Rights Act would help a whole lot.
Go wake your people up or shut up
@@mjsocks5929 I can't very well wake them up if I shut up now can I.
You are unpleasant.
@@mjsocks5929 Your statement is what causes the issues we still see. Here is someone trying to learn and do the right thing, an you with antagonistic bulshit statements, say this. You are no better than the people you are speaking against, because when good comes out you can't notice it.
When he took off his coat...i knew immediately that he was about to nourish our spirit & minds. This brother is so powerful & personifies black intelligence & strength
And did
touch one of them, you got to touch all of us!!!!!! where our leaders at!!!!!!!!!
Ebony Chante HERE I GO
They are dead
Hopefully the government doesn't come after me after looking at this speech.
lol true
KinkyHairedTruth I saw this black power documentary on Netflix where Talib Kweli was talking about how he got questioned for listening to some of Carmichael's speeches while on a plane.
KinkyHairedTruth I was thinking the same thing
Who Cares if they do?
Good news for you, they were already after you.
I love this man his spirit will live on in another great man
Epic wonder why this guy isn't spoken upon like Malcolm X or Martin Luther King, he was part of a the "CIVIL RIGHTS" movement
during the 60's #Black #Power
GOD BLESS
@kinoshi44htown
Because he wasn't assassinated like the other 2 , after the BPPFSD disbanded he left the country went to Africa & that was that
I can't say for certain why he is not talked about more often, but many black heroes from this era aren't talked about that much. It even took a long time for King and X to be remembered and honoured as it is today. But since Kwame Ture marched with King and they worked together, it makes you wonder why he is not mentioned more often. Many from that era, and before, should have more attention.
He wasnt American
This just sent chills up my spine!!! There’s is not a black man alive with a platform who is speaking this unapologetically. Literally beaming with pride!
@Kemonie I vehemently disagree.. Dr. Umar has developed into a character. He’s not a serious intellectual or freedom fighter anymore. He’s become a joke
He remind me of my brother Malcolm X
I’m here in 2020💪🏾✊🏾💕💞💪🏾✊🏾
2023🌌💓
From Jackson and I never learned of this dude until I began to research for myself 👀😂🤦🏽♀️ Black Power 🖤✊🏿 his ability to excite and motivate the audience !!!
Im from the country he was born in and i never heard of him till i research
How have I not learned about this man before? He has such a great auroa about him/ speaking skills. Love it!!!!!!!
Salute to brother kwame ture for always staying solid
Damn, people were talking about reverse racism back in the 60's
Thvndar, sad right?
Reverse racism:
A pathetic attempt by white people to feel victimized by a problem they created themselves.
Herein lies the non-existence of such farce. Now, I've never in my 31 years of being alive, have heard of a white person being harassed or denied something because of their skin color. White people rarely get harassed for their skin color, it's almost non-existent; I'd call that prejudice or bias most likely induced by seeing racism or being victims of it themselves and are lashing out. Disagreeing with political parties is not racism. Disagreeing with something unless it's about a born characteristic, identity, or person in themselves, is not racism. Racism is now too much of a widely open word being twisted. It's original meaning is "a race (skin color/ethnicity) who feels superior to all others". That superiority can range in subtle ways from: dubious glares; dog whistle politics; being followed in a store; or to a systemic and institutionalized way from: discrimination, laws oppressing minorities, hate crimes. White people here in the United States don't experience that here.
Here's why reverse racism in fact doesn't exist:
* White people don't have laws oppressing them, never had.
*They don't experience systemic and institutionalized discrimination motivated by racism in society, housing, employment, welfare and public and private services.
*They don't experience the paranoid and dubious glares for their skin color.
*They don't experience being denied services in schooling, jobs, careers, goods, transportation or accommodations because if their skin color.
*They don't experience being belittled and berated for their skin color.
*They don't experience the degrading verbal taunts and jeers for their skin color.
*They don't experience the physical assaults and attacks for their skin color.
*They don't experience the dog whistle politics; that is- in lieu of epithetical slurs that people use as tactics to instigate and degrade by indirectly using (a) phrase(s) or (a) word(s) because of their skin color/ethnicity/sexual orientation/sex/gender/disability.
*They don't experience the degradation and indignity that we people of color/ethnicity (I'm half Mexican) experience and suffer through.
So no, white people are NOT VICTIMS OF RACISM; REVERSE RACISM DOES NOT EXIST. You are however, ARE VICTIMS OF YOUR OWN VICES AND PERVERSION!
#NeoNazis #WhiteSupremacy #WhiteSupremacists #KKK #Nationalism #ReverseRacism #ReverseRacismDoesntExist #Racism #Racists #WhitePrivilege #WhiteLash #Xenophobia #VictimsOfYourOwnVices #VictimsOfYourOwnPerversion
gaychristianandproud Whoah, that is well fucking said! I'll have to post that on FB. Thanks for the feedback
Thvndar, I added a bit mote, this one is a bit better
Reverse racism:
A pathetic attempt by white people to feel victimized by a problem they created themselves.
Herein lies the non-existence of such farce. Now, I've never in my 31 years of being alive, have heard of a white person being harassed or denied something because of their skin color. White people rarely get harassed for their skin color, it's almost non-existent; I'd call that prejudice or bias most likely induced by seeing racism or being victims of it themselves and are lashing out. Disagreeing with political parties is not racism. Disagreeing with something unless it's about a born characteristic, identity, or person in themselves, is not racism. Racism is now too much of a widely open word being twisted. It's original meaning is "a race (skin color/ethnicity) who feels superior to all others". That superiority can range in subtle privatized ways (prejudice) from: dubious glares; dog whistle politics; being followed in a store; or to a systemic and institutionalized way (discrimination and racism) from: discrimination, laws oppressing minorities, hate crimes. White people here in the United States don't experience that here. Let's clear up some definitions here:
RACIAL PREJUDICE- the belief in biases and stereotypes of a group of people(s)
RACIAL DISCRIMINATION- actions and unfair treatment based on prejudice
RACISM- a form of discrimination (institutionalized in society, culture and laws) based on skin color and/or ethnicity/ethnic origin
Here's why reverse racism in fact doesn't exist:
* White people don't have laws oppressing them, never had.
*They don't experience systemic and institutionalized discrimination motivated by racism in society, housing, employment, welfare and public and private services.
*They don't experience the paranoid and dubious glares for their skin color.
*They don't experience being denied services in schooling, jobs, careers, goods, transportation or accommodations because of their skin color.
*They don't experience being belittled and berated for their skin color.
*They don't experience the degrading verbal taunts and jeers for their skin color.
*They don't experience the physical assaults and attacks for their skin color.
*They don't experience the dog whistle politics of specifically racism (they can be gay, transgender, disabled or a woman and experience dog whistle politics, that's prejudice and discrimination based on other characteristics though, not racism); that is- in lieu of epithetical slurs that people use as tactics to instigate and degrade by indirectly using (a) phrase(s) or (a) word(s) because of their skin color/ethnicity/sexual orientation/sex/gender/disability.
*They don't experience the degradation and indignity that we people of color/ethnicity (I'm half Mexican) experience and suffer through.
So no, white people are NOT VICTIMS OF RACISM; REVERSE RACISM DOES NOT EXIST. You are however, ARE VICTIMS OF YOUR OWN VICES AND PERVERSION!
#NeoNazis #WhiteSupremacy #WhiteSupremacists #KKK #Nationalism #ReverseRacism #ReverseRacismDoesntExist #Racism #Racists #WhitePrivilege #WhiteLash #Xenophobia #VictimsOfYourOwnVices #VictimsOfYourOwnPerversion
Thvndar and thank you, it's the truth
gaychristianandproud that's not what racism is. racism is discrimination or prejudice against a particular race. Anyone can be racist to anyone, no matter how extreme they demonstrate their beliefs.
We're dropping The Slave Psychology book soon, and Stokely is one of the many revolutionaries we quote.
Salute!!!✊🏿
🖤✊🏿
powerful speaker
I wish there was really no more unpunished murders after this
Still very relevant :(
More and more today 😔
RIP to Mr George Floyd 💔🖤💘
you know shits about to go down when the jacket comes off.
Truly wish there were no more unpunished murders ..
I am a white woman in my 70s. I stand in solidarity with all oppressed peoples. As a woman growing up in the 50s & 60s I experienced sexist oppression. These Black Power leaders had to come on strong as they were fighting a powerfully racist system. Stokely Carmichael was a wonderful speaker & a wonderful man.
He was at Central Washington State College in Washington State at our "Revolution" Symposium the month before, March 1967.
So mad I didn’t witness the confrontational rhetoric💁🏽♀️💪🏽🗣
My favorite speaker!
The great Kwame Toure.
Yeah there will never be another one like him R.I.P.
ASHE...POWER!!!
luv him!!!
Speech starts at 1.57
Am trying to figure out which one is the cia!!!!!
Kwama Ture my hero
Magical.
It’s some attractive about this man ..
There were thousands of unwarranted deaths of brothers and sisters for decades after he said they would no more.. 😔
Because we have yet to get serious about the things he ended up preaching for. Malcom X too.
Good point...
@DIOPJR No. I brought up the Nobel Prize, because the fact that Milton Friedman received gives him credibility. It is amazing how much you namedrop. "I know first-year IR undergrads who know about Amin and Arrighi..." So what? You brought them up as an example of an alternative to thinkers like Milton Friedman and I said that I didn't know them. I have never claimed to know every author or thinker who has said something about Africa. Being able to name people doesn't give you more credibility.
That was Elder Lewis Micheaux who made the clever but accurate rhyme in the film "Black Power Mixtape." However, statistically speaking in the United States, most black people aren't poor and most poor people aren't black.(see Statistical Abstract of the United States).
The American Storyteller SCHOOL'EM!!
Asé!!!✊🏿
💪🏾✊🏾💞💞💪🏾✊🏾
As far as your opinions on my writing, this is the last time I'll address that. I started reading newspapers when I was five years old, and read at a college level before I left grade school. I've never gotten anything but A's in any of my English or Composition classes, and was fast-tracked to advanced programs all through school. You, meanwhile, have at best a nervous grasp of English- understandable, since you're a foreigner, but don't try to blame your incomprehension on my writing style.
The narrator has his own bias as he tries to tell viewers how to interpret what Kwame Ture says in this speech. No Black Messiah. Where's the words on the War in Vietnam.
Yes I heard all of that 👀🤦🏽♀️ SMH
@DIOPJR I never stated that. Don't know where you got that from. All I said that receiving a nobel prize in an academic discipline makes your opinion qualified. Unless you think nobel prizes are given to random people. I have no idea who the two people you mention are and I have never brushed away anything they have said.
@DIOPJR I never mentioned the incidents you mention.
Kwame ture is such a legend
@DIOPJR It has nothing to do with entry requirements. I am not talking about new immigrants i am talking about people who are third-fourth and fifth generation americans
@DIOPJR I do listen to people who know what they are talking about instead of agitators who make things up.
@DIOPJR It doesn't mean that everything Krugman says is true but it means that he is qualified to speak and that I will listen. Even though I don't agree with him. Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize, not the Nobel Prize in an academic discipline. There is a huge difference. Milton Friedman could teach african countries about equal opportunities and incentive.
2020✊✊
@baroh2413 so Samir Amin, Immanuel Wallerstein, Paul Sweezy, Paul Baran, Walter Rodney, Amilcar Cabral, and other economists, sociologists and historians are merely agitators, while Milton Friedman is some kind of expert on the international division of labor? Yet another assumption: that my views are based merely on the rhetoric of Kwame Ture.
@DIOPJR That is a postulate from a man who has realised that he cannot argue when he is not in his own ballpark. Can you support your postulate with facts? Without falling back to your ready-made-arguments?
@baroh2413 what's pathetic is to make statements like this without backing it up. In what sense was Ture an opportunist?
@DIOPJR by namedropping i mean throwing around names of people, that you have been told are your great leaders instead of forming a theoretical arguments based on your own situation and what you have experienced yourself? Writing "like Malcolm X, like Nkrumah, like Garvey, like Toure etc etc" frees you of the responsibility of writing what you, principally, think yourself. History can be used, and it can be abused so arguing against a proposition by throwing around names will get you nowhere
We all are Ethiopian American people named after the Ethiopian oceans
We must dispel the notion that Africans are not seriously talking about Pan-Africanism anymore. Within the last decade, we can look at the schism in the African Union over the integration of its nation-states into a United States of Africa as an echo of Nkrumah...thirty years delayed. In a time when the EU protects its farmers while the global financial institutions destroy the African farmer, artisan, and merchant, we must unite!
Class has always been a problem. The question is, to what degree does racial-cultural prejudice feed the false consciousness that keeps a materialist conception of social problems from pushing to the fore?
@DIOPJR I never said that Europeans were the same. Contrary I said that Europeans are different. The same is the case with Africans. Between Africans the difference is even bigger.
(cont.)...you pay lip-service to democracy as against 'dictatorship' in the case of Guinea but deny the importance of, and even lambaste the organization around, the principle of democracy in the African freedom struggle in the US. Thank you for unwittingly showing the contradictions in the attitude of the mainstream toward African political movements.
As far as why model minorities are successful in America, it's because of the entry requirements set by the US government. African immigrants to this country are actually, statistically, the best-educated 'ethnic' group, and why? Because of the stringency of US admission requirements. It's certainly not because their culture leads to 'success' wherever they go. If it were, then most the citizens of Nigeria would be affluent. Draw the necessary inference.
May Allah have mercy on him.
@baroh2413 Ture did not come out of the womb espousing Black Power. It was a stage in the evolution of his political thinking. It was informed by his study of Malcolm and Marcus Garvey in the years of disillusionment towards integration. If he was such a persona non grata, a man of limited vision and dubious character, how did he find himself in the position of educating King on the political history of the Vietnam conflict?
This man is a trinidadian native my country never thought me about him... im proud to be a Trinidadian living in america i love america but we as humans black white or whatever race need to come together
@baroh2413
Glad you agree.
@DIOPJR I know he changed his name to Kwame Toure, but i prefer to call him Stokely Carmichael. It suits him better. You are the one who ramble. I only answer your ramblings as good as any sane person can.
@DIOPJR That explains why you have a hard time arguing without throwing in references to 50 odd people everytime you try to build up an argument. Reading, thinking and experience goes hand in hand. Just reading can be bad for your mental health. As far as your grades go, I am not your teacher or your classmate. Nor am i going to hire you for a job, so your grades doesn't really matter to me. But you sound like you have been a good boy. You parents must be proud of you.
it was a white anthropologist, Melville Herskovits, who noted the unscientific tendency of Europeans to believe that so-called 'primitive cultures' could not withstand the overpowering influence of Western ones when the two come in contact. Why are you so slow in catching up with your white brethren?
They don't make black crowds like this anymore!!!
@DIOPJR The difference between pygmies of central Africa and people from Sudan is bigger than the difference between people from Portugal and people from Sweden. Likewise is the difference between people from South Africa and people from Senegal bigger than the difference between people from Germany and people from Hungary. If you had ever been to Africa (or Europe) you would know that. But since you haven't you probably think that all Africans are like the black people around you in America.
@ChrisnSnoop yeah wow
@baroh2413 to be clear, I've already alluded to the influence of Friedman on international policy, when I discussed the effect of neoliberal policy from GFIs like the World Bank several posts ago. Your unwillingness to 'discuss real politics' with me, ostensibly because of my ideology, is the hallmark of ignorance. Or cowardice. Or both.
@baroh2413 when I offered his work in SNCC as an example of something he's done positive, you bunched it together with his work with Toure and Nkrumah, probably because you knew nothing about it. As far as the 'traveling demagogue' crap, you do know that this speech was well after the MFDP and LCFO, right? 'Traveling' was not a part of that work; he had to live with country folk in terrible segregated conditions in Miss. and Alabama, facing down Klansmen, sheriffs, and lynch mobs.
@DIOPJR The reason i call it a "ready-made-argument" is because you are very eager to get me to explain why it is an example of "race-hustling-opportunism". I have never said that that specific incident was an example of that. But the man behind it is an example of that. A travelling demagogue building his powerbase upone "helping the oppressed" and using reverse racism and revisionist "black history" to do so.
@baroh2413 that sounds like something you've shoved on me. I don't remember saying anything like that. In fact, there are plenty of Pan-Africanists who would say that we are not, as you stupidly called it, a "unity." That we *can* be a unity, and that we can be so quicker than the West can, is what I will affirm always. We share trans-continental political interests and our common experience of dehumanization as 'Blacks' gives us a common cultural enemy: white supremacy.
@baroh2413 what you have to do now is to admit that you were incorrect in saying that he didn't contribute to anything positive. You yourself admitted that he 'may have' helped people. Just accept the loss and keep it movin'.
@DIOPJR What people like you don't understand is that political power is not the most important kind of power. That is why a person such as Mohamed "Mo" Ibrahim (a sudanese billionaire and entrepreneur, who set up the Mo Ibrahim foundation) has tried to do more for Africa than any american agitator has ever done. Sadly not many people have heard of him because he is a realist and not just an idealist. (before you accuse me of namedropping, I explained who he is and why i brought him up).
The first Black man president appeared, after 50 years after M.L.King.
So, who is the first female president of the United States of America ?
The USA always give us the greatest entertainment, or the progress of history.
carlos kleiberthegod TRUMP IS THE FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT. GO STUDY BEFORE U START TALKING. THE FIRST PRESIDENT WAS A MAN OF COLOR.
Now, calling the man a demagogue is yet another baseless accusation. Where is the demagoguery? Does he not believe the things he's saying? If not, how do you know? Better yet, what is your definition of a demagogue? Is it someone who polarizes public opinion to appeal to the masses? It's interesting; there is not a single independent Black leader that has not been accused of demagoguery by mainstream opinion.
@baroh2413 assumption after assumption after assumption. You assume that it's a 'ready-made argument', as if I expect people to overlook what Ture did in SNCC. In fact, I don't; it's probably what he's best-known for, which is why I found your comments about his 'race-hustling opportunism' all the more shocking. What you call a 'ready-made argument', I call background knowledge of the subject. I'm sorry we don't share equally in that.
@DIOPJR I do agree that living conditions and the socialsystem in scandinavia is far superior to that of America (or Africa for that sake). We're very proud of that. But that doesn't mean that we can't criticize professional troublemakers such as Stokely Carmichael.
@baroh2413 I'm sorry, what did Friedman write about Africa again? What, specifically, makes him an expert on the political economy of underdeveloped nations? My 'heroes' are either intellectuals and organizers who have directly experienced colonialism, or are academics who have described how neocolonialism works in the 21st century. Who cares that he won the Nobel Prize? Does that mean that everything Krugman or Obama says about every topic is true?
I really don't know what your purpose is here. Fact: I am putting out more information than you. Fact: your responses have been mainly terse, one- or two-sentence ad hominems and generalizations that have made it that much easier for me to expose the universality of the 'Omnipotent Administrator' syndrome to which I earlier referred. Fact: I hope to convince people that Ture's message is still relevant b/c of the lingering ignorance of Westerners to African issues, and you're helping me out.
@DIOPJR It has nothing to do with color. It is because I sincerely believe that Stokely Carmichael was wrong. And he made a career out of it. How do you know what color I am?
@baroh2413 you think that I did not know that Sekou Toure is called a dictator by the West? Yet another assumption that you've made. Now, I know plenty of Africans, from Ghana, from Nigeria, from Ethiopia, and they all greatly admire Osagyefo Kwame Nkrumah. Nkrumah is so popular in Ghana today that there is not a serious party that does not claim his legacy in some way or another. So if all we're basing African mass opinion on is private conversations, you've lost.
Trini people always in the big league...very intelligent man at the forefront of the early struggle..we should be proud of this great man T&T..
Trinavara don’t separate us...he is a blk man one of us all
U so right now and always we Caribbean people change the world
@@elrededwards863 yeah I should've said Caribbean really...good that you know what I mean..
Elred Edwards lol
@@Madnezzmonroux yes and he is also Trini. Being Trini doesn’t negate his Blackness.
@DIOPJR those things are the core of race hustling opportunism. Sekou Toure was a dictator. I know. I have faily from Guinea
@baroh2413 name-dropping is a kind of argument from authority. Where have I argued from authority? Merely mentioning the names of people is not the same as not having your own perspectives on things. To wit: where have I said that something is so because of such-and-such authority? Everywhere I have asked, on what basis do you malign the work of Ture as 'race-hustling opportunism'? I can't possibly pose that question without reference to his personality.
@DIOPJR So you think that a pragmatic approach to solving problems is "an empty category" . Why do you think orientals, jews and indians are far more succesful in America than blacks?
@baroh2413 you haven't admitted that you were wrong when you said that Ture did not contribute to anything positive. A person who cannot admit his own mistakes is not educable. What kind of precedent are you setting for good faith argumentation? By the way, the only person who has been dealing in facts this whole 'discussion' has been me. MFDP is a fact. LCFO is a fact. Global (vs. continental) Pan-Africanism figuring in the program of the African Union is a fact. As are SAPs.
he was forced into exile by the FBI.
@baroh2413 you don't know what the hell you're talking about. A White-minded African is a person who believes that every solution to their problem must come from White people. Now, the 'identity crisis' of former slaves is directly relevant to the problems of Africans- which is why Steve Biko was able to organize so many South Africans around Black Consciousness literature coming from the African Diaspora. (Do not embarrass yourself by mistaking my historical example for 'name-dropping'.)
careful theirs a trump supporter in the comments from 2 years ago replying toxically to positive posts and his views I'm sure they came here just to be in a better time when they thought racism was fine
@baroh2413 ah, so one has to have won a Nobel Prize in an academic discipline in order to say something relevant about Africa? That's what you seem to be driving at. The fact is that guys who influence my political views like Amin and Arrighi are internationally-reputed scholars of globalism theory, and you've brushed aside everything they've said because they're not neoliberals.
@baroh2413 yes it is. Just because you state something peremptorily does not make it so. To deny a historical group a history is an exercise in ignorance; when you ignore their history because of their race, it is racism. Next you'll be telling me there's no Native American history.
and what, exactly, 'works for Africans and their countries' and what is 'outdated ideology'? You deploy these categories as if with reference to something; but unless the 'outdated ideology' you refer to is Pan-Africanism (which is not at all Cold War ideology- which has been, from independence, a nonaligned socialist paradigm), and which is focused, not merely on racial, but also geopolitical and economic considerations, the category seems empty.
@baroh2413 you've got a strange habit of redefining things. By 'name-dropping' you mean referring to actual events and people; by 'opportunism' you mean actual organizing around the political needs of disenfranchised groups; by 'conspiracy theories' you mean well-established facts that anybody can learn in an introductory African history course, or (in the cases of Lumumba and Nkrumah) by studying FBI documents released under the FOIA.
@baroh2413 a bunch of claims for which you have no evidence, as is your custom. Where did I say that every argument against Pan-Africanism is racist, neo-colonialist or imperialist? Just because I think those adjectives apply to statements you've made, doesn't mean they must apply to every possible statement. Now, how do you justify the claim that the differences among Africans are greater than those among Europeans?
@baroh2413 no, this you're not allowed to do. You're trying to mire this back-and-forth in a new mud-puddle because you can't come to grips with the fact that you mischaracterized Ture. Admitting that he helped the people is admitting that he was involved in something positive. You claimed that he never has been, and now you don't have the balls to own up to your mistake. Very typical.
@DIOPJR he made a career out of complaining. he made things up. he agitated and he didn't contribute to anything positive.
@baroh2413 Now, MFDP and LFCO are organizations that he helped build among poor, disenfranchised Black people; they're instance of constructive work he's done, the merits of which no one, except a dyed-in-the-wool racist or a person completely ignorant of the background in which SNCC was organizing, could deny. How in the hell is that name-dropping? Is this just another case of your lexical limitations? Also, how do you know if I've been to Africa? How have you shown that you know more than me?
@DIOPJR You knew what I meant. So this comment has no purpose.
@baroh2413 nonsense. When I first mentioned the fact that Ture had worked in the MFDP and LCFO, you responded that 'those things are tyhe core of race-hustling opportunism,' which is like saying the Alabama Bus Boycott is racial opportunism. When you brought up Africa's plight, you blamed it on her unwillingness to open up to free-market solutions; but from the 70s the majority of loans African nations have received have come with free-market conditionalities. You were wrong and won't admit it.