Palestine does not belong to European CONVERTS to Judaism for they have NO lineage to the Arab land. Even Balfour in 1917 knew this very well when he made up the occupation master plan of Israel 1948
Bloody hell, to think islam is still up to their violent culture shenanigans that keeps most middle easterners living in shitty third world countries in fear
They play the long game. They stole the heritage to avoid conflict between Christians and Muslims. They converted and became master merchants between the two groups. The khazars (jew (ish) ppl) came to power through slave trade in crimiea
Like same exact tactics...Gig this, what happened to all the Nazi that fled out of Europe to avoid being tried for war crimes? I know a bunch went down to sounth America and there were ones used to "fight communist " but where did they go settle,,,?? My guess is Palestine..Didnt those holocaust survivers come all strapped up and knowing how to fight??? When da fuck did they have time to learn to fight n who taugjt them if they were the "holocaust survivers" ...I think they sent the Nazis undee the best cover possible, as a "jew" who has a holy purpose to put nuclear weapons in the middle east and opps what a coincidence, use interment camps,gastopo like checks everywhere, nationalist extremism ,carrty flags in parades.. Imagine if those original Nazis did really go there and even went on to indicate their kids to believing in Zionism...Like now its not a cover,they really, really believe that shit...Plus with the "all jews are welcome propaganda "( not actually true) they dont want orthodox jews there...But, it filled the space quickly with Jews who got tempted by the idea of your entitled to it from all around the world...Imagine if it was Nazis that did that shit...😮 I think we need really figure out where those "holocaust " survivers learned how to kick so much ass when they got there in 1948... WW2 ended in 1945..So you mean to tell me people who survived the holocaust where military trained in just 3 years??? Noticed how he brought black??? As if it is comparable to Jew...Black was not a title you give yourself until you have no idea wtf you came from because of slavery and relocation... The Zionist loves using "race" as a tool because they know, race is some bullshit ungenics that has been disproved by actually science a 1000× over...Yet,they use it to this day on us..
Question-how do you figure out whos jewish and who isn't if your the gastopo? Thou they acted like it was a "race" they actually went by culture and the identifying markers that went with it...There were many jews able to hide themselves by acting like the Aryan culture of Germany
“The tragedy of the people of Palestine is that their country was “given” by a foreign power to another people for the creation of a new state. The result was that many hundreds of thousands of innocent people were made permanently homeless. With every new conflict their numbers increased. How much longer is the world willing to endure this spectacle of wanton cruelty
@timblackwood1531. If you go further back in history, you're find that the Palestinians are not indigenous to that land, they are Arabs and Arabs are from Saudi Arabia, they as well as the Europeans invaded North Africa!! What we have here is one invader fighting another invader.
@@naphtalite The Romans destroyed the Second Jewish Temple the Holy Land has been in Muslim Rule for 1,400 Years long before the Nation State Theory Europeans invented in the 1800's
@@erickforsyth3793 I think its the same kind of thing with Malcom X. He had many great ideads and should be learned from, but also understood on what they were wrong about.
Malcolm and Stokely are my political icons. They were so absolutely brilliant speaking. I’m white but very few politicians can have such and impact on me nowadays like them.
@@lane_actual_ I'm from Spain. People here know very little from Malcolm X nowadays, and I don't know anybody who knows Kwame, Harriet Tubman, James Baldwin, Lumumba or Sankara. Very sad.
As a matter of historical fact the pyramids were built roughly 3000 bce. The enslavement of Israelites was 1600 bce. It is therefore incorrect to teach that non Africans built the pyramids. Israelites also were not the only ethnic group enslaved in Egypt, so let's acknowledge the contributions of all enslaved people.
Well I’m a Roma gypsy and also we were mass murdered on a daily basis by the Nazis .. there were two ethnic death camps Jewish and Roma side by side one was called Jewish death camp the other one was Roma gypsy death camp .. the world only talks about Jewish people no one ever mentions my people but we were there as well and this was like 80 years ago not 3000 years ago so I got what your saying but to be honest it’s not the fault of the Jewish people that others don’t mention us ..
@@ferencfarkas2729 Yes, I'm aware of the crimes committed against Gypsies as well that led to the crimes against Jews in Germany. If efforts were made earlier to protect Gypsies so many more crimes could have been prevented. The problem here is that we don't take things seriously until it affected certain ethnic groups.
So why don't you tell us when they were built since you claim to know, and in case you didn't know, the claim was roughly 3000 bce, just going off the top of my head unlike some internet trollers who have to go back and check it out online, some of us used books books 30 years ago and show respect.
Our best evidence is that the pyramids were not even built by slaves but by paid full-time craftsmen and builders. The pyramids were massively ambitious projects that required the precision and dedication that you wouldn't get from slave labor. The pyramids aren't even mentioned in the Bible, the idea that enslaved Hebrews built it is just a pop culture idea that comes from a very limited understanding of real Egyptian history.
Zionism was an attempt to liberate Jews - an attempt to liberate European Jews by forming them into a nation and building a settler colony to house them. The nationalist geniuses who created it were so addled with European racism that they thought that they could purchase freedom for European Jews at Palestinian Arabs’ expense, and now Zionism is the world’s largest preserve of antisemitism.
Kwame Ture is one of the greatest Americans to have ever lived alongside Malcolm X, Martin Luther King Jr., Angela Davis, Cesar Chavez, Dolores Huerta, members of the American Indian Movement, John Brown, Oscar Lopez Rivera, and Lolita Lebron. Not to mention every single American unsung in history that has fought against slavery, racism, imperialism, Zionism, and capitalism.
but the jedi mind trick is conflating the 2 so that ANY & ALL criticisms of zionism or the israeli state are ofc /antisemitism. it's a trick that has actually worked for decades thanks to the enabling of the US & the UN but it's a pretty shabby shopworn bill of goods now. thank your laptop & your 'smart' phone for this; historical data is just fingertips away at any given moment. one need not spend long tedious hours collating information at the library.
there's no historical evidence of any jewish slavery in the Dynastic Egyptian history. And there is absolutely ZERO evidence that there was any large scale slavery at any point in the historical record of the ancient civilisation that built the Great Pyramids.
One of those Jewish writers had the nerve years ago to state in a newspaper article that Black folks arent entitled to reparations because We have no relations to Egyptians...Then, the same writer turned around and stated "you blacks owe us Jews reparations because your ancestors the Ancient Egyptians, enslaved the Jews" ...these people are crazy
And ancestry. Don't forget that; just because my ancestors used to live in a land thousands of years ago, doesn't give me the right to kick the current people living there out of the land.
Stop with the Khazar conspiracy theory, it was debunked ages ago. In any case everyone born there should be equal, no matter their ancestry - otherwise it's blood and soil nationalism, which is wrong if Israel does it and it's wrong if Palestine does it. Equality is the answer.
That's most Black Activist so-called Revolutionaries issues, seek out their Enemies to Debate while the Fascist keeps killing & stealing land for the resources.. Not much has changed.. 😂
What that 1st zionist who questioned Kwame is: A descendant of white european ashkenazi. What that 1st zionist who questioned Kwame is NOT: A descendant of the Old Testament non-white Israelites.
Palestine is the homeland of Judaism NOT all Jewish people. People, tribes and even entire states convert over time. The Palestinians are, in fact, the descendants of the ancient peoples of the land. Just because they've converted to Islam or Christianity doesn't mean they give up their right to their ancestral homeland.
Damn Right, Palestine is a like a Nationality named after the land, There were numerous Caliphate who held Palestine but never in their rule decided to commit genocide. The Church and Jewish Temples would have been Erased if the Muslims Decided too. Even Caliph Omar refused to pray to a Church when he was offered to. Saladin Even gave Pilgrims extra rights for both Christians and Jews. Meanwhile everything changed when Zionism Came and bastardized Judaism.
@@esotericknowledge6869correct it’s amazing how he said isreal is in his heart but they don’t fit non of the curses of Deuteronomy and the real Jews which is only three tribes Levi Benjamin and Judah fall under the southern kingdom what what about the other tribes of the northern kingdom where are they scriptures says when the real Israelites go back to the land all the tribes plus are king will be there the fake Jews are still waiting on there messiah
Thank you Africa, thank you black people from all over the world for teaching us love, dance, music, philosophy and food. My heart and soul with you and I will pray to witness the day your countries get united to kick out the European gangs stealing your people, your land and resources. The world will not see true peace as long as you don’t. God bless you and have you living in eternal heaven after the hell you’ve lived on this cruel planet. Allaho Akbar from a non terrorist Arab ❤
The current Eastern European occupants of Israel have no ancestral connection to the black, original Hebrews who emigrated from Israel to Ethiopia, Somalia, Sudan and other African countries. Their only commonality is the religion they practice.
the "hebrew" tradition is far too young to be a religious tradition of note for most African regions. Its the bandwagon of spiritual systems as it were. #justfactz
White guy here, I believe that the black Jews went to Ethiopia and lands to the south and still represent that original sect of jewish people. These Eastern European Jews are exactly like cuckoo birds that lay their eggs in other birds nests then the chick hatches and pushes the original chicks out to die.
During the South African apartheid era, it had a secret, major military relationship with Israel Through the extensive and clandestine military relationship between Israel supplied, apartheid South Africa was supplied with a full range of military weapons (planes, tanks armed vehicles, mortars, guns etc and nuclear technology) all of which violating international law. The military trade between Israel and South Africa was estimated at over $10 billion between 1974 and 1993, making South Africa one of Israel's top trading partners. Its interesting the way Jews ensure that the major role Israel played in enabling white dominance and the suppression of the human rights of non-white South Africans is never discussed. I would have loved to have been there to ask this Zionist about the relationship.
You are entitled to visit and pray like the billions of people from every race that came to Mecca before you... Mecca doesn't really belong to Saudi... the king of Saudi's title is خادم الحرمين servant or custodian of the two holy sites.. Mecca and Medina.. the king serves Mecca and the people who visit the place.
but not just "weak minded", there's the stink of malice saturated intellectual filth wafting off of a rotting, fetid corpse. the sophomoric & childish "how dare you say such things?! you MUST be an antisemite" bargain basement jedi mind trick. meanwhile, the murders of children, the aged & infirmed, continue unabated enabled by the big kahuna of imperialism.
The European Zionist calling itself a Jew forgot to mention that in the Bible it states that Moses was raised by the pharaohs daughter and no one knew he was a Hebrew until he put on the clothes of his people. The real Hebrew looked similar to the real Egyptians. He probably doesn't recall that it also states in the New Testament that the apostle Paul was mistaken to be an Egyptian fugitive by a Roman occupation soldier. When you look at how the pre Arab invasion, pre-Roman invasion and pre-Greek invasion Egyptians portrayed themselves, such as in the Book of the Dead, they are clearly a brown skinned, negroid people, not some pale Europeans or arabs or generic term "Middle Eastern".
But that is also a politics issue. But these same Jewish commissions the Orthodox Jews who author the Bible can’t even tell you of Moses was real or not. You see these or the political debates they’re having behind close doors. Second the word Hebrew doesn’t mean Jewish is mean immigrant. Second no matter what Bible you pick up it’s going to say to my ppl the Egyptians not the Hebrews. God never mention Hebrew or Jews as gods ppl. Third Jacob was a thief on the run so you can only imagine the pol who claim Jacob oops I mean Israel
To add in: The Egyptians and the Afro-Asiatics, Hebrews lived in Egypt for at least 200 years. They migrated to Egypt from Canaan because of the famine. Canaan is Africa. Or what we call today Israel. Now Joseph married an Egyptian woman (Asanth). His two son’s names are Mannaeh and Ephraim. His two son’s became patriarchs of the 12 Tribes of Israel. Jacob/Israel met Joseph’s wife. She explained that Jacob/Israel was an old man with an Afro with an ‘Ethiopian’ appearance. Now, Ethiopians are East Africans. Cushites. Black. Egyptians later enslaved these Afro-Asiatic nation from Canaan. The Egyptians in FACT told the truth on what they actually look. In Ancient Egypt they had all sorts of colors of paint. If the Egyptians pained The Afro-Asiatic nation, The Hebrews white? No problem. But, The Egyptians told the truth. They painted The Hebrews brown, dark skin. There’s an old book that I saw that shows & explain the Egyptian taskmaster over the Hebrew slave. Both men are brown, dark skinned. Europeans are not ‘Jews’, but the are Khazars. Khazaria Kingdom. The disgusting Turkic tribe from Central Asia, Eastern Europe. They had a large army. They were war-like people. Even to other Europeans. They chose Judaism under their king, King Bulan in 740 A.D. When their kingdom fell? They branched out. They went to Poland. Russia. Romania etc and this is where we see Eastern European ‘Jews’. They never lived in Northeast Africa in biblical times. They weren’t in Egypt. Because if they were? The Egyptians would have painted them white people. But they didn’t, because they were no White/European in Africa during Bible era. Why do celebrate Passover?? They weren’t slaves in Egypt. C’mon now. You were supposed to drop the mic. I got you. 🎤
@@kennybachman35 Germanic, Slavic and Baltic make up Yiddish. That’s not Hebrew but European. Hebrew is actually come from the Greek, Hebraicus. Go study before commenting. Oh it’s also belong to two groups: Arabs and Shemitic Africans
Point to Mr. Ture-- "The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279-1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt."
(1) There were neither Jews nor slaves. (2) Judaism was still being developed throughout Central Asia via the Ahaemenid Empire. (3) The Pyramids were all national labor projects (i.e. the USian New Deal)---with wages AND benefits.
Considering the biblical history of time since Adam's creation, you can't go back 4500 years ago and find Egyptians. From a biblical perspective, men weren't around back then. Adam would be created some hundred years later.
Per corresponding archelological, historical, AND theological research: ANY person/place/thing even REMOTELY attributable to Judaism, as a discrete entity, is---at the most generous--4,000 years old.
@@byronperez9199, "biblical history" = folklore anthology = derivative mythology = WoW/Star Wars/LOTR lore (1) Yes, like many an anime, there are plenty interpolations of relatable reality. (2) YET the point is the wisdom to be gleaned from the tales---the LESSONS to be learned! (3) NOT the logos/pathos/ethos of any persons/places/things
@@MarioCavett "didn't need" doesn't translate to "didn't have". They had slaves. Of all kinds in fact. Not that this zionist has any roots going back there anyway. He's just a european larping as a african.
WORD. it is a rubrik's cube bound up in a gordian knot layered under jedi mind tricks. both sides right, both sides wrong. it always reminds me of that amazing old school star trek episode wherein the enterprise comes across a planet of 'humans' that are LITERALLY 1/2 black & 1/2 white only also reversed so as to give the ILLUSION of 2 separate but nonetheless almost IDENTICAL people locked in a mutual deathlock of spiraling mutual hatred, fear & loathing. no matter what logic spock employs, no matter what diplomacy kirk attempts, these 2 'races' go at each other relentlessly. by the end ofc, as the enterprise (bound by regulations NOT to interfere) pulls away in resignation at their inability to effect ANY positive influence, the crew watches as the planet goes up in smoke. gene roddenberry knocked it out of the park with that episode & ppl talked about it for quite some time afterwards. if you can find it on youtube i heartily recommend it. it's a study in the penultimate absurdity, even clinical INSANITY of the human condition.
@@zhateyahtv FACTS, but they DON'T EVER want you to bring anything that is even a reference to that . look what they did to Kyrie Irving for mentioning in a tweet about the film From Hebrews to Negroes. When he let them know that he is the descendent of the Israelites then they lost their mind. He didn't even bring that up in his tweet, but they got what they asked for when they kept pushing him to apologize for something he didn't do
Is there video of this debate?! Thank you for posting! It’s truly amazing they use the same bully tactics then as they do now and the twisting and redefining of words to fit the narrative just never fucking ends!!!
listening to them argue about who Israel and who Africa belong to sounds two faced. When they are doing it in a country that belongs to the native peoples of America, but is controlled by settlers. An oxymoron if ever I heard one!
Neither of these groups had a hand in the resettlement of the Natives. Also, the Native Americans were resettled hundreds of miles away from their native land and given resources to resettle (we don’t count those small pox blankets though...). Native Americans were not stuffed into concentration camps a few feet from their homes, separated by a 30f concrete wall and micromanaged like prisoners… huge difference.
Before the two state solution Jewish people coexisted with both Muslims and Christians. Zionism isn’t a movement to reclaim JEWISH homeland, their trying to reclaim land thats historically been shared between them. Religious right has nothing to do with it. At every turn Israel land grabs for more of Palestine. It has nothing to do with religious birthright and everything to do with colonialism and greed.
and yet the nation-state of Israel was decreed by the UN, which is why a considerable number of Jewish people consider Zionism to be illegitimate, as they used man-made means to forcibly reclaim Israel instead of letting G-d take care of it.
United Nation gave it to us . but but at that time. half the world was under European colonialism so it was common for the European land thieves to be going around parcelling out other people’s property that they had stolen .
Kwame is my biggest heroe of all times, but some times he loses the thread of the debate. I have the impression that after this occasion he started some heavy researches on Zionism and related topics, because the debate later in the 90s he was way better prepared for such a discussion.
Ture’s talks on capitalism & socialism are great, & I’m on the same pro-Palestine side of the Israel-Palestine conflict, but this is not an effective way of dealing with Zionists; a lot of what he said either could easily be misconstrued (even by a good faith audience) as anti-Semitism, or actually did have seeds of anti-Semitism (it’s weird that he’s try to argue that he’s not anti-Semitic on the grounds that that includes Arabs & he’s pro-Arab, as if he actually is anti-Jewish but just doesn’t want to call it anti-Semitism). Zionism is a form of ethnonationalism, & Israel is an apartheid state which has been continuously displacing the Palestinians who live in the area by military aggression for about 70 years now... There’s no need to make all these weird arguments which are particular to Jews or which sound anti-Semitic. Anyone who is in favor of democracy, ethnic pluralism, egalitarianism, or opposed to criminal aggression & ethnic cleansing should be against the actions & current form of the state of Israel, not because its Jewish but because it’s an undemocratic, imperialist ethnostate which has been engaged in aggression, all kinds of horrific atrocities against civilians, & ethnic cleansing on a continuous basis for most of its legal existence. Someone who is anti-Zionist, not anti-Semitic, would argue against a state like this whether the ethnicities it was an ethnostate for was white, black, Arab, Jewish, Kurdish- it doesn’t matter who. And I don’t think Ture is actually an ethnonationalist (as an internationalist socialist that wouldn’t make sense), but I do think that having come up in a milieu where black nationalism (a form of ethnonationalism) was very prevalent in the radical black community, I think those kinds of ideas probably made it more difficult to completely sus our the issue of Zionism vs anti-Zionism in a way that was clear, to the point, & didn’t sound at all anti-Semitic.
"Current form of the state of Israel" I think that's where your misunderstanding lies. Israel as a state and even as an idea (that of having a religious right to the land) needs to be destroyed. That's what's proposed by Kwame. I don't get how you say he's anti-jewish or that he might be. From this it looks like he's against the idea of Jewish people being a people group. Like we wouldn't say all Muslims or Christians are a people so what makes Judaism unique? That's a question I don't know enough to answer but that's what he was attacking, not the religion itself or non Zionist Jews. I'm guessing you and I have heard different things about Black Nationalism. Black Nationalism as proposed by Malcom X is black people controlling their own government. The Republic of New Afrika is that further developed. It isn't ethno-nationalist as it was in talks with indigenous revolutionary groups about claims to the land. In short, black nationalism is giving black people/New Afrikans the power to control their collective community. Having that power be a government is what's seen to be best fit.
@Toon Trooper The idea of a religious right to the land is an idea that will never be destroyed because it's not an idea but a belief. A belief that's held by those who believe so deeply that it's embedded into their core, and it's part of who they are as a people. Once people truly believe in something, it's unlikely they'll give up their belief, especially one that has such a powerful effect that it changes people's lives. This idea is backed by 3.8 billion dollars a year and so far has a total of over 146 billion dollars that it's riding on.
Malcolm thought there was a 'flaw' in Elijah, only to find out he was wrong. And he paid his life for that error. Stokely KNEW better, as did SO MANY OTHERS!
I didn't hear anyone there addressing the question of whether a diaspora Africa their home (as that of those calling Israel their home) have, or are willing to, displace those Africans already living there by force of violence (and eventually encroach in settlements past the original borders, whether de facto or de jure). If the answer from Ture is yes, then there is clearly some hypocrisy there. If the clear answer is not, that they would never dream of displacing others because themselves had been displaced and wanted return to their "homeland" that is "rightfully theirs" by law or fantasy, then there is clearly a difference.
The idea that slaves built the pyramids is controversial to say the least: "According to noted archeologists Mark Lehner and Zahi Hawass, the pyramids were not built by slaves; Hawass's archeological discoveries in the 1990s in Cairo show the workers were paid laborers, rather than slaves. Rather, it was farmers who built the pyramids during flooding, when they could not work their lands."
Without more context on Ture's position on Zionism this exchange may feel questionable (anti-Jewish racism does infect even the Left, and we have to be weary of it). There is another video on this channel called "Kwame Ture on Zionism and Imperialism" which clarifies his position; I recommend watching it.
there is no such thing as anti-Jewish racism. There is anti-Semitism, which is incorrectly taken to mean anti-Jewishness, since Palestinians and Arabs are indeed also Semitic peoples and Arabic is a Semitic language. Anti-Semitism as it is known colloquially is an invention of Western, European regimes. Not Africans. Not Arabs or Middle Easterners. Europeans created it largely through the hand of the Catholic Church.
"You call yourselves a people..." Actually the Jewish identity as an ethnic character has been as historically imposed onto Jewish people, as it has been embraced by them in modernity...
Correction: The Jews did not build a single pyramid. When even the last pyramid was built there was still no Jew. The historical document that is being referenced by the Jewish man is the Bible which is common knowledge to have been reconstructed.
Abraham wasn't Jewish either. Abraham was before the creation of Judaism. These Zionists use lies and deception to make their arguments, and they never shut up so you don't have time to disagree with them. This is why the indigenous Elders call them Tricksters. That doesn't mean they are all evil, but it does mean they care more about winning than doing the right thing.
People saying he defended slavery when all he did was say the complex buildings had architects the slaves couldn’t build that without a graphed out plan and whereas in America When Blacks say they built this country they’re referring to generating the wealth of the country and infrastructure by working unpaid labor! What did the Jews contribute to Egypt outside of being directed by someone else’s detailed plans?
In truth, the Jews were never in Egypt. Egypt actually came to them. Thutmose's invasion and conquering of Canaan (the land and people who directly preceded Israel and Judah). And Thutmose was a New Kingdom Pharoah, centuries later than the Old Kingdom pyramids were built. So this whole Jews doing pyramids nonsense reveals just reveals a lot of ignorance.
Zionist: "The UN gave us that land!"
Kwame: "And the UN said you should go back to 1967 borders..."
Same Zionist: "The UN is bullshit!"
Palestine does not belong to European CONVERTS to Judaism for they have NO lineage to the Arab land. Even Balfour in 1917 knew this very well when he made up the occupation master plan of Israel 1948
@@user-zv8gd3jl7q they arn't European either, they are like gypsies
sure, just as soon as theocracies are barred from voting
@@FAMEROB no. not gypsies ....Israelis hate gypsies even more than the Nazis did.
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Britain had no right to give away land that is not in England.
It was their colony so they could. Legally. Palestine doesn’t exist my friend.
Illogical
@@ewantaylor4478explain this
@@oa4032 learn the geography
@@oa4032 you do not know what you are talking about
Bloody hell, to think they were using the same old shenanigans even back then - whew!
If it was about Islam and Palestinians for the past 120 years tomorrow it will be the world
@@DeadlyTyper42islam is the devil religion. When the whole world will realise that, it will be too late.
Yeah, right?
Bloody hell, to think islam is still up to their violent culture shenanigans that keeps most middle easterners living in shitty third world countries in fear
They play the long game. They stole the heritage to avoid conflict between Christians and Muslims. They converted and became master merchants between the two groups. The khazars (jew (ish) ppl) came to power through slave trade in crimiea
Y’all see the ideological origins of “all lives matter?”
Nothing’s changed.
Yep...I thought the exact same thing when I heard this. Spot on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haunting
Like same exact tactics...Gig this, what happened to all the Nazi that fled out of Europe to avoid being tried for war crimes? I know a bunch went down to sounth America and there were ones used to "fight communist " but where did they go settle,,,??
My guess is Palestine..Didnt those holocaust survivers come all strapped up and knowing how to fight??? When da fuck did they have time to learn to fight n who taugjt them if they were the "holocaust survivers" ...I think they sent the Nazis undee the best cover possible, as a "jew" who has a holy purpose to put nuclear weapons in the middle east and opps what a coincidence, use interment camps,gastopo like checks everywhere, nationalist extremism ,carrty flags in parades..
Imagine if those original Nazis did really go there and even went on to indicate their kids to believing in Zionism...Like now its not a cover,they really, really believe that shit...Plus with the "all jews are welcome propaganda "( not actually true) they dont want orthodox jews there...But, it filled the space quickly with Jews who got tempted by the idea of your entitled to it from all around the world...Imagine if it was Nazis that did that shit...😮
I think we need really figure out where those "holocaust " survivers learned how to kick so much ass when they got there in 1948...
WW2 ended in 1945..So you mean to tell me people who survived the holocaust where military trained in just 3 years???
Noticed how he brought black??? As if it is comparable to Jew...Black was not a title you give yourself until you have no idea wtf you came from because of slavery and relocation...
The Zionist loves using "race" as a tool because they know, race is some bullshit ungenics that has been disproved by actually science a 1000× over...Yet,they use it to this day on us..
Question-how do you figure out whos jewish and who isn't if your the gastopo?
Thou they acted like it was a "race" they actually went by culture and the identifying markers that went with it...There were many jews able to hide themselves by acting like the Aryan culture of Germany
Exactly, I thought the same thing
“The tragedy of the people of Palestine is that their country was “given” by a foreign power to another people for the creation of a new state. The result was that many hundreds of thousands of innocent people were made permanently homeless. With every new conflict their numbers increased. How much longer is the world willing to endure this spectacle of wanton cruelty
@timblackwood1531. If you go further back in history, you're find that the Palestinians are not indigenous to that land, they are Arabs and Arabs are from Saudi Arabia, they as well as the Europeans invaded North Africa!! What we have here is one invader fighting another invader.
until every inch of land muslims from Arabs and continue to oppress is returned. until then #LevelGaza.
As long as Zionist have influence on the World Monetary System and American Dollars and Arma.ent Supplies
and their country was promised to them for helping us , the liars , defeat the Ottoman Empire
this Zionist dude sounds like a pissed teenager in a COD lobby🤣he’s got that signature whiny tone of voice
Hahaha! Good one!! APTTMH!
Entitled ass tone
oh my god, he does 😦
Jews have secret meetings. We tell our children not to shoot each other. We also tell them to spend more time studying and less time playing basketbal
Exactly.
Kwame was looking straight into the future... wisdom!!!
Look what is happening now in Palestine..
Palestine 🇵🇸
palestine was created by the Roman empire not the Arabs.
@@naphtalite ok bot
no one even asked lmao
It was also happening then. It's been going on for decades.
@@naphtalite The Romans destroyed the Second Jewish Temple the Holy Land has been in Muslim Rule for 1,400 Years long before the Nation State Theory Europeans invented in the 1800's
@@naphtalite
Whatever it is Palestine is in the middle East and the middle Eastern are Arabs
To be racist and Jewish... is a great tragedy
I agree😥
Judaism is inherently racist.
With some of them, one goes with the other
@@curtisthomas2670Most of them. Please read the Torah or about the Torah.
Friendly fire💀
“You believe in black humanity” “that is humanity” KINGGGGG
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What does that say,,,,, Africa should pay the Zionist for all the good thing they contributed
Also in typical Zionist fashion it showed his racism
Yeah for yourselves and no one else
@@apexpredator9489 you be right
Boy this aged so well...
Incredibly well. It's delicious!
Hell yeah it aged well
Sure has, it shows how long black activists have hated Jews, way more than 50 years, and the cycle continues.
Except the part about justifying Egyptian slaveowners. The anti-zionist stuff will always be relevant, but the first part was a bit embarrassing.
@@erickforsyth3793 I think its the same kind of thing with Malcom X. He had many great ideads and should be learned from, but also understood on what they were wrong about.
Malcolm and Stokely are my political icons. They were so absolutely brilliant speaking. I’m white but very few politicians can have such and impact on me nowadays like them.
better look for ya own icons you politic-correct gringo you brainwashed ghzippy
I know now why my education in 70s & 80s did not include Malcolm nor Kwame
@@lane_actual_ I'm from Spain. People here know very little from Malcolm X nowadays, and I don't know anybody who knows Kwame, Harriet Tubman, James Baldwin, Lumumba or Sankara. Very sad.
As a matter of historical fact the pyramids were built roughly 3000 bce. The enslavement of Israelites was 1600 bce. It is therefore incorrect to teach that non Africans built the pyramids. Israelites also were not the only ethnic group enslaved in Egypt, so let's acknowledge the contributions of all enslaved people.
Well I’m a Roma gypsy and also we were mass murdered on a daily basis by the Nazis .. there were two ethnic death camps Jewish and Roma side by side one was called Jewish death camp the other one was Roma gypsy death camp .. the world only talks about Jewish people no one ever mentions my people but we were there as well and this was like 80 years ago not 3000 years ago so I got what your saying but to be honest it’s not the fault of the Jewish people that others don’t mention us ..
@@ferencfarkas2729 Yes, I'm aware of the crimes committed against Gypsies as well that led to the crimes against Jews in Germany. If efforts were made earlier to protect Gypsies so many more crimes could have been prevented. The problem here is that we don't take things seriously until it affected certain ethnic groups.
They weren’t built in 3000bce .
So why don't you tell us when they were built since you claim to know, and in case you didn't know, the claim was roughly 3000 bce, just going off the top of my head unlike some internet trollers who have to go back and check it out online, some of us used books books 30 years ago and show respect.
Our best evidence is that the pyramids were not even built by slaves but by paid full-time craftsmen and builders. The pyramids were massively ambitious projects that required the precision and dedication that you wouldn't get from slave labor.
The pyramids aren't even mentioned in the Bible, the idea that enslaved Hebrews built it is just a pop culture idea that comes from a very limited understanding of real Egyptian history.
Free palestine 🇵🇸
Free all our people 💪
Everywhere
And ALL the lies have come to pass. They will continue until they are no longer able to tell their lies.
RIP Kwame Ture. THANK YOU Baba 💯🙏🏿
Calling zionism a "liberation movement" is disgusting.
vile
Zionism was an attempt to liberate Jews - an attempt to liberate European Jews by forming them into a nation and building a settler colony to house them. The nationalist geniuses who created it were so addled with European racism that they thought that they could purchase freedom for European Jews at Palestinian Arabs’ expense, and now Zionism is the world’s largest preserve of antisemitism.
So after thousands of years of discrimination, exile, pograms, and genocide- it is wrong for the belief that jews should have a state of their own?
Absolutely
Jews have secret meetings. We tell our children not to shoot each other. We also tell them to spend more time studying and less time playing basketbal
Kwame Ture is one of the greatest Americans to have ever lived alongside Malcolm X, Martin Luther King Jr., Angela Davis, Cesar Chavez, Dolores Huerta, members of the American Indian Movement, John Brown, Oscar Lopez Rivera, and Lolita Lebron. Not to mention every single American unsung in history that has fought against slavery, racism, imperialism, Zionism, and capitalism.
@kushdan Grade he involved himself with american society enough to be considered American
@kushdan Grade America is only an illusion. There is only one Earth
Hes African, not American.
@@supra1722 Kwame Ture is more American than Drumpf
@@thejusticechannel13 he would not agree, that is not a pan Africanist position
Pyramids were already in Egypt when the Hebrews arrived. Zionism & Judaism are NOT the same.
but the jedi mind trick is conflating the 2 so that ANY & ALL criticisms of zionism or the israeli state are ofc /antisemitism. it's a trick that has actually worked for decades thanks to the enabling of the US & the UN but it's a pretty shabby shopworn bill of goods now. thank your laptop & your 'smart' phone for this; historical data is just fingertips away at any given moment. one need not spend long tedious hours collating information at the library.
That the same look At who rules Hollywood who got the power
there's no historical evidence of any jewish slavery in the Dynastic Egyptian history. And there is absolutely ZERO evidence that there was any large scale slavery at any point in the historical record of the ancient civilisation that built the Great Pyramids.
And THAT is an historical fact. All evidence shows that the workers on the pyramids were in fact highly skilled tradesmen.
And some of those people would later create Canaan and Phoenicia.@@michaeljoseph741
where does one find that evidence?@@michaeljoseph741
One of those Jewish writers had the nerve years ago to state in a newspaper article that Black folks arent entitled to reparations because We have no relations to Egyptians...Then, the same writer turned around and stated "you blacks owe us Jews reparations because your ancestors the Ancient Egyptians, enslaved the Jews" ...these people are crazy
unfortunately, most of the "recognized" jewish history never happened...its just mythology...they will tell you themselves.
Using religion to own land.
to steal land
And ancestry. Don't forget that; just because my ancestors used to live in a land thousands of years ago, doesn't give me the right to kick the current people living there out of the land.
And a myth at that.
If that - above - were true then Jerusalem should be the land of the Christians. Jerusalem was destroyed and then rebuilt.
Not just religion, but history, politics, culture, and military might. 😊
Guy who doesnt give a shit about Palestinian humanity: WHAT ABOUT MY HUMANITY
It's always "me me me me me" with them...zionists, i mean.
fascists (muslims) don't have humanity may they continue to be displaced (:
You people are devil 👿
They don’t care about their own humanity and act like savages. Why should we care about Palestinian humanity? They are our enemies lol.
A German khazarian talking about Egypt and Palestine. 😅
Khazarians don’t exist, and a German Khazarian is definitely an oxymoron. How do you know he is German?
Youre right. They’re not Jewish.
Stop with the Khazar conspiracy theory, it was debunked ages ago. In any case everyone born there should be equal, no matter their ancestry - otherwise it's blood and soil nationalism, which is wrong if Israel does it and it's wrong if Palestine does it. Equality is the answer.
Poor Kwame, stuck in an argument with a fascist. We all been there
Zionism has ways been the Reich Wing..
That's most Black Activist so-called Revolutionaries issues, seek out their Enemies to Debate while the Fascist keeps killing & stealing land for the resources.. Not much has changed.. 😂
he sounded more *ZIONIST*
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@@HughJass-313zionism is fascism.
Get back to your basement.
It ain't your homeland if you have to kick people out their homes
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What that 1st zionist who questioned Kwame is:
A descendant of white european ashkenazi.
What that 1st zionist who questioned Kwame is NOT:
A descendant of the Old Testament non-white Israelites.
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The Pyramids were built 1500 years before Judaism was invented.
Yup. But holy hell have you seen the depth of ignorance on this topic? Shocking.
I'm not sure why knowledge of the ancient period is so poor.
@@RobespierreThePoof Reading the comments is even more scary. It's like people never ever read a book in their lives.
The pyramids in Africa were made by the SAME Peoples who built the "MOUNDS" in Illinois and Ohio, USA.
Which pyramids are you talking about?
Thank you. 🙄
Palestine is the homeland of Judaism NOT all Jewish people. People, tribes and even entire states convert over time.
The Palestinians are, in fact, the descendants of the ancient peoples of the land. Just because they've converted to Islam or Christianity doesn't mean they give up their right to their ancestral homeland.
Damn Right,
Palestine is a like a Nationality named after the land, There were numerous Caliphate who held Palestine but never in their rule decided to commit genocide.
The Church and Jewish Temples would have been Erased if the Muslims Decided too.
Even Caliph Omar refused to pray to a Church when he was offered to.
Saladin Even gave Pilgrims extra rights for both Christians and Jews.
Meanwhile everything changed when Zionism Came and bastardized Judaism.
The true Palestinians was black not Arabs
This just makes me even more said...look how long the Palestinians have been suffering under these people
I know! I couldn't even handle living next door to them. It would be like being surrounded by racist Karens
Don't lump all Jews together into the bad category.
True
It amazes me how these Israeli Jews forget about the other 11 tribes when they’re having these debates.
It's probably _antiseptic_ to talk about the other tribes..
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They are converts they have nothing to do with the 12 tribes
@@esotericknowledge6869correct it’s amazing how he said isreal is in his heart but they don’t fit non of the curses of Deuteronomy and the real Jews which is only three tribes Levi Benjamin and Judah fall under the southern kingdom what what about the other tribes of the northern kingdom where are they scriptures says when the real Israelites go back to the land all the tribes plus are king will be there the fake Jews are still waiting on there messiah
What 11 tribes? Please stop talking nonsense goy 😂🤦🏻♀️
They misunderstand the term ashkenazi and think it means they should be supremicists😂
Well said! From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free 🇵🇸 ! #ceasefirenow ! #stopthegenocide !
In 2024 still the same problem.
What's old is new again. Not much progress...
Thank you Africa, thank you black people from all over the world for teaching us love, dance, music, philosophy and food. My heart and soul with you and I will pray to witness the day your countries get united to kick out the European gangs stealing your people, your land and resources.
The world will not see true peace as long as you don’t.
God bless you and have you living in eternal heaven after the hell you’ve lived on this cruel planet.
Allaho Akbar from a non terrorist Arab ❤
Thank you
Math, science, agriculture, irrigation, architecture, writing and how to organize against oppression as well, among other things. Check the history.
You don't need to specify that you're a "non-terrorist arab". Be proud of who you are and don't care about baseless assumptions from racist people.
Philosophy from Africa ??? Hahahahaha you're delusional.
Love from South Africa. ♥
The Zionist gave me Ben Schapiro vibes
Probably his uncle
@@jaiiskii2262that's what I was going to say
Must have been related to him
Shapiro is a machine gun rapid speaker. Not a good trait.
Ben shapiro is a zionist as well.
Kwame really didn't need to give that guy any explanation beyond his first answer.
h'es not in jail is why. on the outside, he chose to. on the inside, yeah short to the fuckin point answers are the norm, idiot.
The current Eastern European occupants of Israel have no ancestral connection to the black, original Hebrews who emigrated from Israel to Ethiopia, Somalia, Sudan and other African countries. Their only commonality is the religion they practice.
Man, I enjoyed this so much! Artful and composed reasoning systematically dissecting shallow talking points
Carmichael destroyed his opponent!
Continuous and non-ending atrocities of Israel make such video ever fresh and relevant just like today, after many years of this conversation.
the only mistake on both sides is believing there is no black Jews that was always a point of contention for me
the "hebrew" tradition is far too young to be a religious tradition of note for most African regions. Its the bandwagon of spiritual systems as it were. #justfactz
White guy here, I believe that the black Jews went to Ethiopia and lands to the south and still represent that original sect of jewish people. These Eastern European Jews are exactly like cuckoo birds that lay their eggs in other birds nests then the chick hatches and pushes the original chicks out to die.
Kwame was cooking.
During the South African apartheid era, it had a secret, major military relationship with Israel
Through the extensive and clandestine military relationship between Israel supplied, apartheid South Africa was supplied with a full range of military weapons (planes, tanks armed vehicles, mortars, guns etc and nuclear technology) all of which violating international law.
The military trade between Israel and South Africa was estimated at over $10 billion between 1974 and 1993, making South Africa one of Israel's top trading partners.
Its interesting the way Jews ensure that the major role Israel played in enabling white dominance and the suppression of the human rights of non-white South Africans is never discussed.
I would have loved to have been there to ask this Zionist about the relationship.
I want the whole debate
This aged like fine wine!
Strokely was smart enough to go around this person.People believe what they want to believe.
I wish there was a video to this.
@@petduro timestamps?
Imagine Eastern Europeans saying they've been living in exile 😂😂😂
Who are Eastern Euopreans that you are referring to? Typical antiusemitic racist comment
Amen! I'm Anti-Zionist too!
''That's humanity''
This is really ridiculously good. #FreePalestine
6:52 "Man I'm wearin a Mic, people are gonna think I'm saying this" LMAO
Since I’m Muslim I’m entitled to the land of Mecca even though my parents are originally from Africa and the Americas
"If I don't steal it, someone else will!"
-Long Island scumbag taking a Palestinian's home because his fascist government and fanaticism *demand* it
Period 💅🏾 that has nothing to do with race but faith and ideology
You are entitled to visit and pray like the billions of people from every race that came to Mecca before you... Mecca doesn't really belong to Saudi... the king of Saudi's title is خادم الحرمين servant or custodian of the two holy sites.. Mecca and Medina.. the king serves Mecca and the people who visit the place.
😂 classic classic Kwame Ture. Breaking down weak minded arguments!😂😂
but not just "weak minded", there's the stink of malice saturated intellectual filth wafting off of a rotting, fetid corpse. the sophomoric & childish "how dare you say such things?! you MUST be an antisemite" bargain basement jedi mind trick.
meanwhile, the murders of children, the aged & infirmed, continue unabated enabled by the big kahuna of imperialism.
The European Zionist calling itself a Jew forgot to mention that in the Bible it states that Moses was raised by the pharaohs daughter and no one knew he was a Hebrew until he put on the clothes of his people. The real Hebrew looked similar to the real Egyptians. He probably doesn't recall that it also states in the New Testament that the apostle Paul was mistaken to be an Egyptian fugitive by a Roman occupation soldier. When you look at how the pre Arab invasion, pre-Roman invasion and pre-Greek invasion Egyptians portrayed themselves, such as in the Book of the Dead, they are clearly a brown skinned, negroid people, not some pale Europeans or arabs or generic term "Middle Eastern".
But that is also a politics issue. But these same Jewish commissions the Orthodox Jews who author the Bible can’t even tell you of Moses was real or not. You see these or the political debates they’re having behind close doors. Second the word Hebrew doesn’t mean Jewish is mean immigrant. Second no matter what Bible you pick up it’s going to say to my ppl the Egyptians not the Hebrews. God never mention Hebrew or Jews as gods ppl. Third Jacob was a thief on the run so you can only imagine the pol who claim Jacob oops I mean Israel
Preach!
To add in: The Egyptians and the Afro-Asiatics, Hebrews lived in Egypt for at least 200 years. They migrated to Egypt from Canaan because of the famine. Canaan is Africa. Or what we call today Israel. Now Joseph married an Egyptian woman (Asanth). His two son’s names are Mannaeh and Ephraim. His two son’s became patriarchs of the 12 Tribes of Israel. Jacob/Israel met Joseph’s wife. She explained that Jacob/Israel was an old man with an Afro with an ‘Ethiopian’ appearance. Now, Ethiopians are East Africans. Cushites. Black. Egyptians later enslaved these Afro-Asiatic nation from Canaan. The Egyptians in FACT told the truth on what they actually look. In Ancient Egypt they had all sorts of colors of paint. If the Egyptians pained The Afro-Asiatic nation, The Hebrews white? No problem. But, The Egyptians told the truth. They painted The Hebrews brown, dark skin. There’s an old book that I saw that shows & explain the Egyptian taskmaster over the Hebrew slave. Both men are brown, dark skinned. Europeans are not ‘Jews’, but the are Khazars. Khazaria Kingdom. The disgusting Turkic tribe from Central Asia, Eastern Europe. They had a large army. They were war-like people. Even to other Europeans. They chose Judaism under their king, King Bulan in 740 A.D. When their kingdom fell? They branched out. They went to Poland. Russia. Romania etc and this is where we see Eastern European ‘Jews’.
They never lived in Northeast Africa in biblical times. They weren’t in Egypt. Because if they were? The Egyptians would have painted them white people. But they didn’t, because they were no White/European in Africa during Bible era. Why do celebrate Passover?? They weren’t slaves in Egypt. C’mon now.
You were supposed to drop the mic. I got you.
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Hebrew is a Germanic dialect, not an ethnicity.
@@kennybachman35 Germanic, Slavic and Baltic make up Yiddish. That’s not Hebrew but European. Hebrew is actually come from the Greek, Hebraicus. Go study before commenting.
Oh it’s also belong to two groups: Arabs and Shemitic Africans
Its actually insane seeing people having the same arguments back then as we are now. World would never change
This is a great argument and it confirms a whole lot of my thoughts prior to this video.
Point to Mr. Ture--
"The pyramids could not have been constructed by Jewish slaves, as no archaeological remains that can be directly linked to the Jewish people have been found in Egypt that date back to 4,500 years ago, when the Giza pyramids were built, archaeological research has revealed. Additionally the story told in the Hebrew Bible about Jews being slaves in Egypt refers to a city named "Ramesses." A city named pi-Ramesses was founded during the 19th dynasty (about 1295-1186 B.C.) and was named after Ramesses II, who ruled 1279-1213 BC. This city was constructed after the era of pyramid construction had ended in Egypt."
(1) There were neither Jews nor slaves.
(2) Judaism was still being developed throughout Central Asia via the Ahaemenid Empire.
(3) The Pyramids were all national labor projects (i.e. the USian New Deal)---with wages AND benefits.
Considering the biblical history of time since Adam's creation, you can't go back 4500 years ago and find Egyptians. From a biblical perspective, men weren't around back then. Adam would be created some hundred years later.
Per corresponding archelological, historical, AND theological research:
ANY person/place/thing even REMOTELY attributable to Judaism, as a discrete entity, is---at the most generous--4,000 years old.
@@byronperez9199,
"biblical history" = folklore anthology = derivative mythology = WoW/Star Wars/LOTR lore
(1) Yes, like many an anime, there are plenty interpolations of relatable reality.
(2) YET the point is the wisdom to be gleaned from the tales---the LESSONS to be learned!
(3) NOT the logos/pathos/ethos of any persons/places/things
Kwame "M I G H T Y P L A A A N I N G of the pyramids" Ture
Egyptians didn't need slaves.
@@MarioCavett "didn't need" doesn't translate to "didn't have". They had slaves. Of all kinds in fact. Not that this zionist has any roots going back there anyway. He's just a european larping as a african.
We’ve been having the same arguments for decades, this is exhausting. #FreePalestine
They are like republcans. They just lie and everyone knows it is a lie. It is pathetic
WORD. it is a rubrik's cube bound up in a gordian knot layered under jedi mind tricks. both sides right, both sides wrong. it always reminds me of that amazing old school star trek episode wherein the enterprise comes across a planet of 'humans' that are LITERALLY 1/2 black & 1/2 white only also reversed so as to give the ILLUSION of 2 separate but nonetheless almost IDENTICAL people locked in a mutual deathlock of spiraling mutual hatred, fear & loathing. no matter what logic spock employs, no matter what diplomacy kirk attempts, these 2 'races' go at each other relentlessly. by the end ofc, as the enterprise (bound by regulations NOT to interfere) pulls away in resignation at their inability to effect ANY positive influence, the crew watches as the planet goes up in smoke. gene roddenberry knocked it out of the park with that episode & ppl talked about it for quite some time afterwards. if you can find it on youtube i heartily recommend it. it's a study in the penultimate absurdity, even clinical INSANITY of the human condition.
book of Exodus says that the Israelites (Jews and other tribes) built the cities of Ramses and Pithom. It says nothing about Pyramids.
Even still, the white Jews arent even the real ones
@@zhateyahtv FACTS, but they DON'T EVER want you to bring anything that is even a reference to that . look what they did to Kyrie Irving for mentioning in a tweet about the film From Hebrews to Negroes. When he let them know that he is the descendent of the Israelites then they lost their mind. He didn't even bring that up in his tweet, but they got what they asked for when they kept pushing him to apologize for something he didn't do
the pyramids were ancient history before moses was born
Is there video of this debate?! Thank you for posting! It’s truly amazing they use the same bully tactics then as they do now and the twisting and redefining of words to fit the narrative just never fucking ends!!!
Jews was originally black but they guy speaking I'm sure wasnt coming from that angle
i am sure he would consider such a notion to be absolutely HARAM! XD
Jews are all colors 12 tribes it’s the Zionist that are racist
Khazars from the Caucasus and AshkeNazis from Germany calling themselves Middle Easterners is funny af
winner: #KwameTure
listening to them argue about who Israel and who Africa belong to sounds two faced. When they are doing it in a country that belongs to the native peoples of America, but is controlled by settlers. An oxymoron if ever I heard one!
Neither of these groups had a hand in the resettlement of the Natives. Also, the Native Americans were resettled hundreds of miles away from their native land and given resources to resettle (we don’t count those small pox blankets though...). Native Americans were not stuffed into concentration camps a few feet from their homes, separated by a 30f concrete wall and micromanaged like prisoners… huge difference.
If god gives you a land i doubt the united nations would even be a factor..
Before the two state solution Jewish people coexisted with both Muslims and Christians. Zionism isn’t a movement to reclaim JEWISH homeland, their trying to reclaim land thats historically been shared between them. Religious right has nothing to do with it. At every turn Israel land grabs for more of Palestine. It has nothing to do with religious birthright and everything to do with colonialism and greed.
and yet the nation-state of Israel was decreed by the UN, which is why a considerable number of Jewish people consider Zionism to be illegitimate, as they used man-made means to forcibly reclaim Israel instead of letting G-d take care of it.
Ghost stories are for camp fires and sleepovers...
@@almishti..without Palestine agrees to it.😂
"They'll call you an antisemite but never a liar"
United Nation gave it to us . but but at that time. half the world was under European colonialism so it was common for the European land thieves to be going around parcelling out other people’s property that they had stolen .
That’s not justified and still makes it palestine land
Some people not only pretend to be someone else. They pretend to be victims as well. All to put you off balance from their attacks.
a much needed voice for these times
They don't be ready for logic
Kwame is my biggest heroe of all times, but some times he loses the thread of the debate. I have the impression that after this occasion he started some heavy researches on Zionism and related topics, because the debate later in the 90s he was way better prepared for such a discussion.
Mr Stokely Charmichael words are so true today via Gaza 😢😢😢😮
🖤 🦁 ♥ LONG-LIVE BROTHER KWAME TOURE!! A AFRIKAN REVOLUTIONARY FROM THE CRADDLE TO THE GRAVE!
Ture’s talks on capitalism & socialism are great, & I’m on the same pro-Palestine side of the Israel-Palestine conflict, but this is not an effective way of dealing with Zionists; a lot of what he said either could easily be misconstrued (even by a good faith audience) as anti-Semitism, or actually did have seeds of anti-Semitism (it’s weird that he’s try to argue that he’s not anti-Semitic on the grounds that that includes Arabs & he’s pro-Arab, as if he actually is anti-Jewish but just doesn’t want to call it anti-Semitism). Zionism is a form of ethnonationalism, & Israel is an apartheid state which has been continuously displacing the Palestinians who live in the area by military aggression for about 70 years now... There’s no need to make all these weird arguments which are particular to Jews or which sound anti-Semitic. Anyone who is in favor of democracy, ethnic pluralism, egalitarianism, or opposed to criminal aggression & ethnic cleansing should be against the actions & current form of the state of Israel, not because its Jewish but because it’s an undemocratic, imperialist ethnostate which has been engaged in aggression, all kinds of horrific atrocities against civilians, & ethnic cleansing on a continuous basis for most of its legal existence. Someone who is anti-Zionist, not anti-Semitic, would argue against a state like this whether the ethnicities it was an ethnostate for was white, black, Arab, Jewish, Kurdish- it doesn’t matter who. And I don’t think Ture is actually an ethnonationalist (as an internationalist socialist that wouldn’t make sense), but I do think that having come up in a milieu where black nationalism (a form of ethnonationalism) was very prevalent in the radical black community, I think those kinds of ideas probably made it more difficult to completely sus our the issue of Zionism vs anti-Zionism in a way that was clear, to the point, & didn’t sound at all anti-Semitic.
That is very well said! 👏🏼👏🏼
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"Current form of the state of Israel" I think that's where your misunderstanding lies. Israel as a state and even as an idea (that of having a religious right to the land) needs to be destroyed. That's what's proposed by Kwame.
I don't get how you say he's anti-jewish or that he might be. From this it looks like he's against the idea of Jewish people being a people group. Like we wouldn't say all Muslims or Christians are a people so what makes Judaism unique? That's a question I don't know enough to answer but that's what he was attacking, not the religion itself or non Zionist Jews.
I'm guessing you and I have heard different things about Black Nationalism. Black Nationalism as proposed by Malcom X is black people controlling their own government. The Republic of New Afrika is that further developed. It isn't ethno-nationalist as it was in talks with indigenous revolutionary groups about claims to the land. In short, black nationalism is giving black people/New Afrikans the power to control their collective community. Having that power be a government is what's seen to be best fit.
@Toon Trooper
The idea of a religious right to the land is an idea that will never be destroyed because it's not an idea but a belief.
A belief that's held by those who believe so deeply that it's embedded into their core, and it's part of who they are as a people. Once people truly believe in something, it's unlikely they'll give up their belief, especially one that has such a powerful effect that it changes people's lives.
This idea is backed by 3.8 billion dollars a year and so far has a total of over
146 billion dollars that it's riding on.
This is so far the only real good take I’ve seen yet
I lurrrrve a black african -american debate- they dont tolerate no bullshit , they just laugh, drop knowledge, and shake that shit off ✊
Brother Stokely Carmichael aka Kwame Ture R.l.P. 🇹🇹
Malcolm thought there was a 'flaw' in Elijah, only to find out he was wrong.
And he paid his life for that error.
Stokely KNEW better, as did SO MANY OTHERS!
Which really sounds like Malcolm was taken out because of that ...NOI claimed they had nothing to do with it although slick members were FBI
Not many people engaged in debates about the conflict know of the Balfour Declaration even in current times. Much respect to the man talking.
Brilliance personified. #AntiZionist #TheFireThisTime #FreePalestine
We miss a great area ..repose in peace kwamè tourè great ancestors
I am a Palestinian and I am astonished how educated Stokely Carmichael (Kwame Ture) was!!! RIP Kwame!! 🇵🇸
Proud to be born in Trinidad the country where kwame Ture was born hero
Never forget what israel and the western allies did to the Palestinians. Remember the apartheid and remember the genocide.
Echoes of the past that still ring true today. ☺️❤
israelis didn’t lay one brick in Egypt. The ancient Israelites did, who were captured and chained on ships (Deuteronomy 28).
They didn’t either. The pyramids were there ages before even Abraham visited. So excuse me.
You're a liar...@@need-to-know-
@@mightyman2404He's telling the truth no lies.
truth is always the truth and Ture's truth resonated till today 2023!!!!
Kwame Ture was 100% correct
I didn't hear anyone there addressing the question of whether a diaspora Africa their home (as that of those calling Israel their home) have, or are willing to, displace those Africans already living there by force of violence (and eventually encroach in settlements past the original borders, whether de facto or de jure). If the answer from Ture is yes, then there is clearly some hypocrisy there. If the clear answer is not, that they would never dream of displacing others because themselves had been displaced and wanted return to their "homeland" that is "rightfully theirs" by law or fantasy, then there is clearly a difference.
Seemed like a obviously followup but he didn't take it, possibly because of the momentum of all the exchanges.
@@bogusmcbogus2637 Thanks for the response.
They fought for us to serve its time to fight and finish the war
This reads to me as Ture just fucking with him, but it's pretty funny
The idea that slaves built the pyramids is controversial to say the least: "According to noted archeologists Mark Lehner and Zahi Hawass, the pyramids were not built by slaves; Hawass's archeological discoveries in the 1990s in Cairo show the workers were paid laborers, rather than slaves. Rather, it was farmers who built the pyramids during flooding, when they could not work their lands."
Europeans trying to be middle eastern what is this an identity crisis
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
According to egyptian history the first war was between the God Horus and the God Set over the control of the pyramids in the year 8970 b.c.
As an european, this is the first time I hear (about) Stokely/Kwame. Sounds like he was a very intelligent man!
My boy is wicked smart, Kwame that is.
Without more context on Ture's position on Zionism this exchange may feel questionable (anti-Jewish racism does infect even the Left, and we have to be weary of it). There is another video on this channel called "Kwame Ture on Zionism and Imperialism" which clarifies his position; I recommend watching it.
there is no such thing as anti-Jewish racism. There is anti-Semitism, which is incorrectly taken to mean anti-Jewishness, since Palestinians and Arabs are indeed also Semitic peoples and Arabic is a Semitic language. Anti-Semitism as it is known colloquially is an invention of Western, European regimes. Not Africans. Not Arabs or Middle Easterners. Europeans created it largely through the hand of the Catholic Church.
"You call yourselves a people..." Actually the Jewish identity as an ethnic character has been as historically imposed onto Jewish people, as it has been embraced by them in modernity...
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Correction: The Jews did not build a single pyramid. When even the last pyramid was built there was still no Jew. The historical document that is being referenced by the Jewish man is the Bible which is common knowledge to have been reconstructed.
Abraham wasn't Jewish either. Abraham was before the creation of Judaism. These Zionists use lies and deception to make their arguments, and they never shut up so you don't have time to disagree with them.
This is why the indigenous Elders call them Tricksters. That doesn't mean they are all evil, but it does mean they care more about winning than doing the right thing.
People saying he defended slavery when all he did was say the complex buildings had architects the slaves couldn’t build that without a graphed out plan and whereas in America When Blacks say they built this country they’re referring to generating the wealth of the country and infrastructure by working unpaid labor! What did the Jews contribute to Egypt outside of being directed by someone else’s detailed plans?
In truth, the Jews were never in Egypt. Egypt actually came to them. Thutmose's invasion and conquering of Canaan (the land and people who directly preceded Israel and Judah). And Thutmose was a New Kingdom Pharoah, centuries later than the Old Kingdom pyramids were built.
So this whole Jews doing pyramids nonsense reveals just reveals a lot of ignorance.